Tulsi Gabbard
Appearances
Apple News Today
What we know about the figure skaters lost in the plane crash
Senator, as someone who has served in uniform—
Apple News Today
What we know about the figure skaters lost in the plane crash
As someone who has worn our uniform in combat, I understand how critical our national security is. Apparently you don't.
Bongino Report Early Edition with Evita
NSA Perverts Caught & FIRED (Ep.148)
Well, Jesse, what we're going to do has already been done. There are over 100 people from across the intelligence community that contributed to and participated in this. What is really just an egregious violation of trust? What to speak of like basic rules and standards around professionalism?
Bongino Report Early Edition with Evita
NSA Perverts Caught & FIRED (Ep.148)
I put out a directive today that they all will be terminated and their security clearances will be revoked.
Global News Podcast
Trump and intelligence chiefs play down Signal app group chat leak
Did you participate in the group chat with Secretary of Defense and other Trump senior officials discussing the Yemen war plans? Senator, I don't want to get into the specifics.
Global News Podcast
Trump and intelligence chiefs play down Signal app group chat leak
You're not going to be willing to address. So you're not, are you denying? Ma'am, will you answer my question, ma'am? You were not TG on this group chat? I'm not going to get into the specifics. So you refuse to acknowledge whether you are on this group chat? Senator, I'm not going to get into the specifics. Why are you going to get into the specifics? Is it because it's all classified?
Global News Podcast
Trump and intelligence chiefs play down Signal app group chat leak
Because this is currently under review by the National Security Council. Because it's all classified? If it's not classified, share the text now.
Global News Podcast
Trump officials accuse journalist of lying after Signal app leak published in full
The conversation was candid and sensitive. But as the President National Security Advisor stated, no classified information was shared. There were no sources, methods, locations or war plans that were shared. This was a standard update to the National Security Cabinet.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
No physical injury, but creating a kind of emotional stress and trauma that as human beings they were struggling in dealing with.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Um, on a positive note, you know, I, the Polynesian culture, especially, but, but also Asian culture and other cultures around the world, our guys found that as they were shortly after we got there, the unit that we were replacing, you know, we're taking the guys out on patrol and saying, Hey, here's this village.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Here's where we found friendlies, or here's where we know that there are insurgents operating and they've got allies and lookouts and, you
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And what our guys found was that as they were doing these ride-alongs, they call it a left seat, right seat, when you're coming in and taking over, that there was a bit of a tense, even adversarial type of relationship where on the military side, there was an assumption of suspicion or lack of trust, just with the local Iraqi people who lived around the base that we were at.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And without anybody telling them to culturally, our guys began trying to build relationships. And for Hawaii and Samoa, and we had soldiers from Guam and Saipan, Little things like you're riding down in a Humvee, you've got a gunner in the turret with a .50 cal or a machine gun of some sort.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Little things like pointing the muzzle to the sky as you're riding through a town rather than pointing it directly at where people are walking down the street was a huge gesture of an assumption of, hey... let's actually talk and become friends. We had our guys riding down the street and throwing shakas out to the local people there, breaking bread, sharing tea, and building those relationships.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And again, I served in a medical unit, and what we saw was a downward shift in casualties from the unit that had been there before us, simply because of that... that basic human connection that our guys sought to make.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And then gradually finding like, hey, local, you know, people who lived in the town right next to us were saying, hey, you guys should really, somebody was digging a big hole down this, a mile down the road. You might want to bypass that or check that out and finding weapons caches and IEDs, improvised explosive devices and other things that helped save people's lives.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Look, what they will claim is that it's expensive to move logistics through a country at war. But they get away with it, ultimately, this insane war profiteering, and they're not alone. Obviously, there are other companies that this is their business model. They get away with it because of their political connections and the lobbyists that they have, the relationships they have with politicians.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And ultimately what President Eisenhower warned against with regard to that cozy relationship between Congress and even what he called then the military-industrial complex. It's been alive and well. He warned us against it. And I would say it's thriving more now than ever before.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It can be. It's powerful. I don't think you can overstate the powerful nature of it because it extends so deeply within our government. It's not just those in these specific big defense contracting companies that benefit from it.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
You look at the revolving door within the Pentagon, for example, where you have both high ranking people who wear military uniforms, as well as those who serve as high ranking Department of Defense civilians who are literally working their way into a big payout when they leave that job. We see it with our own Secretary of Defense now.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
He retired as a general officer, went and served on one of the boards for one of the big defense contractors, and then now back as the Secretary of Defense. We see the same thing in Congress with members of Congress and senior professional staffers in Congress. Same exact revolving door here.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Where you have people, whether they're writing contracts for the Department of Defense for the company that then wins the bid for that contract and then going and working for that company. Or those in Congress who are writing policies and doing exactly the same thing.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
War is justified when it is in the best interest of our national security and when it is the last resort, when all diplomatic efforts have been completed and exhausted and war is the last possible route that must be taken to ensure the safety, security, and freedom of the American people.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Well, first of all, part of the problem of our foreign policy has been how many conflicts, wars, military actions have been waged in the name of this quote-unquote war on terrorism, in the name of national security. Legislation like the Patriot Act that violates civil liberties, our civil liberties and freedoms, in the name of the war on terrorism has
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
and national security when it's not justified. And so I'll use Afghanistan as an example. I support the initial mission that lifted off shortly after the attack on 9-11, the Islamist terrorist attack on 9-11. It was a relatively small group of US military launched to go after those Al-Qaeda cells and Osama bin Laden in the wake of that attack.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
that is the mission that should have been supported and focused on in its execution. Instead, as you know, attention was diverted very quickly to the regime change war in Iraq that was waged on false pretenses, and the resources and focus was taken away from that initial mission that went on. to Afghanistan.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And the war in Afghanistan blew up into something that became about regime change and governance and the Taliban and less focus on Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. And it became this thing that even general officers had a hard time articulating what is the objective here? What are we trying to accomplish? What does winning look like? At what point do we know it's time to exit and get out?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And as you look at things like the Afghanistan files and others, the answers to these simple and essential questions shifted and changed over time, over a very long time. Similarly in Iraq, you know, the
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
i i bought into a lot of what was being sold by the administration and by democrats and republicans and congress at the time and very quickly even as i was on the ground there started to have my eyes opened up into how we had been how we had been lied to tremendously and how that protracted war went on for a very very long time with decisions being made that ultimately served to strengthen
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
terrorist groups like al-Qaeda, the creation of ISIS, and others really undermining our national security interests in the meantime. understanding the enemy that you are trying to defeat is essential to being able to build a strategy. The declaration of President Biden, for example, saying, well, the war on terror is over. The war on terror is over. What does that mean?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Or the forever wars are over. What does that actually mean? I served on my last, most recent deployment in 2021 to East Africa and Somalia, where al-Shabaab is one of those Islamist terrorist groups that follows the same ideology as al-Qaeda, ISIS, Hamas, and others.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
This group has been allowed to grow and be strengthened, even though they are one of the main groups that provides funding to al-Qaeda in that entire region. So any president or politician can declare a war to be over.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
But when you have an enemy like these Islamist terrorist groups who are still intent on their goal and their objective, which is to ultimately establish their Islamic caliphate and destroy Israel and exterminate the Jewish people and basically destroy, kill or convert anyone who doesn't adhere to their ideology.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Uh, that continues on and it, they will only become stronger the longer our leaders put their heads in the sand and pretend like, Oh no, this doesn't exist. Uh, this kind of war, this war specifically is one that has to be waged militarily and ideologically.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And the ideological component to this, which is defeating their ideology with a superior one is one that I pointed out in Congress during the Obama administration, um, We, the collective, we were failing at.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
The Obama administration was failing at because they were so afraid of being labeled Islamophobes that they refused to accurately identify the ideology driving these terrorist groups and instead said, oh, we are countering violent extremism, was the term that the Obama administration started to use. and was coined and kind of mandated across the U.S. government.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Well, you have to know, again, you have to know the enemy that threatens you and why they're doing what they're doing if you have any hope of actually preventing their attack, both militarily and as we're seeing now with Hamas's actions, not only directly in the assault on Israel, but how Hamas achieved their objectives in spreading their ideology around the world.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Clearly understanding who they are and where they are and why they're doing what they're doing is essential, first of all. And obviously there are different groups, different names. They have morphed and changed based on their locale and how they operate.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Building relationships with people in other countries, both state leaders as well as religious leaders and others who share that same objective of defeating these Islamist terrorists on both fronts. and acting as a united front in taking that action. What exactly that action looks like, details on the ground dictate that. Details about these different groups will dictate that.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
But we've seen examples of this before, and I saw this in Somalia. We saw it in some cases in Iraq where where, for example, you have imams who recognize the threat that these terrorist groups pose to their own people and their own communities and exerting their influence in defeating the terrorist Islamist ideology with their own teachings of Islam and preaching peace amongst their people.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
War is ugly and it is messy. It is also an unfortunate reality of the world we live in. So while I... firmly believe that we must always pursue peace. I'm not a pacifist. I'm a realist. And recognize that where there are these threats, we must do what we can to work towards that safety, that security, that freedom and peace that we all want.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It's a complex question with a complex answer. I think Israel's approach has to be in recognizing that delineation as far as possible. And I know it's tough when you have a terrorist group like Hamas that is so interwoven within the community of people in Gaza.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
but to recognize that there should be and there is a shared purpose there for the Palestinian people to be able to live free and in peace and not under the oppression of this terrorist group, just as the people of Israel would like to live in peace and free from the threat of attack from a terrorist group that wants to exterminate them.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
The complexities of what's going on in Israeli politics is, I think, a different conversation, but also one that is directly intertwined with the answer to this question when you have some people in the Israeli government who don't want the Palestinian people in Gaza at all and want them to go and repatriate in other countries.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
I think that's a big problem, and that further exacerbates this hatred and resentment that continues to grow there. This is a generations-long challenge, unfortunately, of the resentment and tension that exists between many Israelis and many Palestinians that can only be resolved when there's strong leadership representing both peoples.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
who are able and willing to come together and recognize that the only way forward is to let the past be in the past and find a way towards peace in the future.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
The only way that this war ends is to do exactly what we're talking about. There has to be a brokered dialogue. And conversation about peace that has to occur with representatives from Russia and Ukraine. It is really truly heartbreaking to see both how efforts that began just weeks after Russia invaded Ukraine to do exactly this were thwarted.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
by the Biden-Harris administration and other Western powers has cost so many innocent people's lives. And this is where I get... I have friends in Ukraine. I've been there more than a few times. I've enjoyed and appreciated the time that I've spent there. When I hear from my friends about
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And how afraid they are of their husbands being conscripted and feeling like they have to hide for fear of being yanked off the streets, their friends and family members who've been killed in this war.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
The only way this ends is when both sides come to the table and find an agreement that neither side is going to be completely happy with, both sides being forced to make some concessions, but one where they will both walk away and this war can end.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Yes. Yes. In an ideal world, yes. This should have happened long ago. The question of whether or not President Biden is the right person to do that at this time, when all of the statements and comments that they have made, the Biden-Harris administration has made from the beginning of this war, essentially point to their objective being to basically destroy Russia.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And that's one of the reasons why they have supported both the continuation of this war for as long as it's lasted, as well as why they have thwarted efforts towards peace. Whoever that most effective neutral broker is, that's the best person to do this. The Biden-Harris administration, I think the role that they have to take is actually encouraging Zelensky to sit down and begin this process.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Those kinds of engagements are the most, to me, the most powerful exercises of diplomacy that can't be matched, especially when our president's foremost role and responsibility is to serve as commander-in-chief. And I wish that we had leaders who were more willing to engage because I think we'd make a lot more progress more quickly.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And to find areas both of mutual interest as well as to help de-conflict and de-escalate areas where there is tension or disagreement or adversarial interests.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
I agree. I don't think that's naive at all. And I think there are so many examples through history that point to the power of that, the real power in that. In the Cuban Missile Crisis, how JFK had to literally find a secret way to communicate with Khrushchev to try to go around the backs of the military commanders who were urging him to take military action and instead...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
find, hey, we both ultimately want the same thing. Neither of us wants to launch a catastrophic nuclear war, so let's figure this out.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
As I just stated, we need leaders who have the courage to meet not just with allies, but with adversaries in the pursuit of peace, in the pursuit of increased understanding. If policies are being made through the lenses and the barriers of bureaucrats and the media and others who have or may have their own interests,
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
um our president a leader can't make even members of congress can't make decisions with the kind of clarity that we the american people need them to make i think that these kinds of engagements are weaponized and politicized as they were against me um
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
by those who have their own interests, whether it be the military industrial complex or in Washington, if you're not part of the official narrative of the U.S. government, which was intent on a regime change war in Syria, then you're an outcast. And it was unfortunate because
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
People levied all kinds of accusations and smears against me for going and having the audacity to go and learn more, try to seek the truth in the hopes of preventing more needless war and in the hopes of preventing yet another quagmire and disastrous war. In the Middle East.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And simply for going and, yes, meeting with Assad, also meeting with religious leaders in Syria, also meeting and talking with people on the streets of Damascus, talking with college students, talking with people from the opposition party who would like to see Assad replaced. Yeah. Talking with local law, just a whole host of people over the course of a few days.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
The accusation was like, oh, she loves dictators. It's a sad state of affairs when some of the most influential voices in our country are will label someone a lover or supporter of dictators simply because you're saying, hey, we shouldn't be going to war. There is another way. And I'm not alone in this. People who were against the war in Iraq
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
We're given similar labels until it became popular in our politics to have been against the Iraq War. We see the same thing now with people like Tucker, myself, and others who are saying we should not be waging this proxy war against Russia via Ukraine and using the Ukrainian people's lives in this war.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Well, now all of a sudden you're a Putin lover, a Putin puppet or or whatever, you know, the traitor treason, all of these accusations that are used ultimately by people who are not interested in having a substantive conversation about the truth, about looking at these these wars and conflicts, you know, with a comprehensive view of. on exactly all the dynamics that are at play.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And that's what I found when I came back. I went to Syria looking forward to coming back and shedding light on different perspectives, experiences, and stories that I found that would give people a more broad understanding of what was happening in that country.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And what I found was there was zero interest in the mainstream media or in Congress in hearing any other perspective other than their own, which was we need to launch this regime change war through the use of arming and equipping known terrorists within Syria to overthrow the regime. without any idea, without them stating any realistic idea of who would take control once Assad was overthrown.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
But the reality actually being that no matter which opposition group they might try to prop up, they would not have the power to withstand the terrorist groups whose stated goal it was to go and take over power from Assad. They had no interest in trying to gain true understanding. And it was very disheartening. It was very disheartening.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And a big lesson learned about where their interests really were focused.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Just on that note real quick, I think that was exposed in broad daylight when it appeared that the former head of the Wagner Group was about to try to launch a coup and how that was so celebrated, even on MSNBC and Rachel Maddow and others touting that this was somehow going to be a great thing. without looking at, you know, who is this guy really?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
What has he been doing in different countries around the world? And what would be his kind of ruling philosophy and how that would differ or benefit American interests or the interest of security and peace?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
I agree.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Well, I'll tell you when it began. My first day in Congress was January 3rd, 2013. I believe it was the 3rd, 4th, 5th, somewhere around there. And my last day was January 3rd, 2021. I had been given my experience of serving as a soldier in the Middle East and in
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
The motivation that really drove me to run for Congress in the first place, I served on the Foreign Affairs Committee and the Armed Services Committee for almost eight years, the eight years that I was there, with my drive and motivation to actually be in a position to challenge the influence of the military-industrial complex, to try to prevent us from needlessly going to war.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And so, you know, the likes of Hillary Clinton and the cabal of warmongers in Washington, they weren't fans of mine, to say the least. I can't say it was a total surprise, but it was disheartening nonetheless that the very day that I announced my candidacy, that I was running for president, which was in February 2019...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
The hour that I walked up onto that stage to announce my candidacy, it was in Hawaii, and I gave my announcement speech. NBC News published a hit piece that planted the seeds of suspicion in voters' minds that somehow I was a darling of Putin and Russia and whatever. It was baseless, all of it baseless.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And that continued like a steady drumbeat throughout my candidacy, but that really was escalated when in a podcast with David Axelrod, Hillary Clinton said, oh, well, the Russians are grooming her. And this is not, I mean, this came from a very influential person. She was the former Secretary of State, former US Senator, former First Lady, someone who
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
wielded and continues to wield a lot of power in the Democratic Party and amongst voters. And that took it to a whole new level. What is the basis for this? Nothing. It is a tired yet dependable playbook that is used not only by people like Hillary Clinton, but also people like Mitt Romney and others to
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
to try to smear, discredit, and destroy the reputations of people who have the audacity to question their objectives as they call for one war or another, or have the audacity to say that this is not in the best interest of peace or in our country and our national security.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
They keep going back to this playbook, as they do today, because, again, they're not willing to debate the substance of one position versus another, which is what we should have. If people feel so strongly that we should be going and waging this war or that war, okay, great. Go make your case to the American people. Go stand on the floor of the United States House and actually have this debate.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Allow those who are saying, no, this is not a good idea to also stand freely and make that argument. Instead, they resort to the kind of name calling that tells voters, hey, you can't trust this person or anything that they say.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
We, myself and some of my other colleagues, got the same treatment when we tried to pass legislation in Congress that would have taken out provisions from the Patriot Act that are most egregiously violating our Fourth Amendment rights and civil liberties. Authorities that have allowed our government to illegally surveil Americans without a warrant. And as we did so, we're called traitors.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
We had other members of Congress on the House floor saying that if you pass this legislation, you will be responsible for another 9-11-style attack on our soil. These are all distraction tactics to try to divert our attention away from what's actually happening. and instead just tell voters, hey, you can't trust these people. Obviously, this has happened to Trump. It's happened to Bobby Kennedy.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It's happened to people like Rand Paul and others. There's a small group, but a growing number, at least among the Republican side at this point, people who are actually willing to stand up and challenge the military-industrial complex, challenge the warmongers in both parties.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Less so recently. I agree with you, but less so recently. And this is one of the reasons why I left the Democratic Party. One of the foremost reasons. I devote an entire chapter to this issue in my book, For Love of Country, Leave the Democrat Party Behind.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Going into the detail of some of the things we've talked about, about my own experiences, about what I have learned along the way, but also how even in the last year, two years, certainly under this administration, people who I worked with in Congress who were Democrats, dependable voices for civil liberties, dependable voices for...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
speaking out against the insanity of people who wanted to wage war for the sake of war. they're largely silent now. And unfortunately, within the Democratic Party in Washington, there is no room for debate. That if you challenge the Biden administration's position on foreign policy, you're going to hear about it. And what we have seen is that that's exactly what's happened. And people have
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
retracted statements or just fallen silent or whatever the case may be this debate that should be existent within both parties on the democrat side unfortunately um it just doesn't exist anymore there seems to be some kind of mass hysteria over the war in ukraine it was strange to uh to watch that the nuance aspect of the discussion
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Yeah, which is pretty sick when you think about it.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And manipulated. Yeah. Yes. I admire your hopefulness. I am hopeful also because of the goodness in people and the naturally compassionate nature of people. However, I will tell you from firsthand experience that what we talk about is the national security state and the military industrial complex.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
This cabal of warmongers that extends not only within government, but outside of government, extends to many powerful media outlets. They are incredibly powerful and don't have any qualms at destroying those who try to get in the way of their power. And they've got a lot of tools available.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
They've got a lot of tools to do that, which I think is why President Eisenhower chose to include this in his farewell address as a warning, because the only recourse, the only real power that has the ability to destroy them and stand up against them is a free people living in a free society, exercising the rights that we have enshrined in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
I think the most essential thing, first of all, is understanding exactly what you have just detailed. We are in this very strange and absurd time where we have talking heads and so-called pundits on TV.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
We have politicians, we have people who are talking about a nuclear war as though it is a war that can be won, period, and a war that can be waged somehow without that risk of escalation to the point of destruction of human civilization. And so they talk about this as though it's just another war, and especially as they talk about the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Oh, well, this is small, and we think it'll send a message without actually escalating to the point where... we're dealing with the kind of destruction that we witnessed in World War II. That's a dangerous thing when it becomes like normalized as, you know, well, we've got this new missile that'll go and it's targeted and it's strategic and it'll only harm this quote unquote military target.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Ronald Reagan was 100% correct when he said, you know, a nuclear war cannot be won and should never be waged. It was true then and it's true now, no matter how much these guys who are producing these weapons or those who are benefiting from that industry try to tell us, oh no, it'll never happen.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
So to me, that's an important first step to continue to inform and educate and sound the alarms to people, don't buy this crap because it's not true. And I look forward to listening to your podcast, but the PSA that was put out by New York City's Emergency Management Office about what to do in the event of a nuclear attack, You would find it funny if it wasn't so deeply disturbing.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
How they created this public service announcement, they distributed it everywhere across the city, on the internet, I think it was on the radio, where you had a woman who appeared to be an actor coming in and saying, hey, in the event of when the big one hits... here's what you should do. Focus on doing these three things. And I'm paraphrasing, but I encourage you to watch it.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
I'm paraphrasing, but she said, get inside, stay inside, and stay tuned. That was it. And get inside, go away from the windows. Stay inside, don't go outside until you get the all clear. And stay tuned. Follow our account on Instagram and Twitter. And at the very end of this short PSA, she said, her closing words were, we've got this.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And it was so disturbing in that it was so completely out of touch with reality that
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Um, it creates this kind of false sense of security that, okay, well, it's kind of like, here's what you do when a tornado hits or when a big storm hits and, and categorizing the big one, a nuclear attack within that same kind of preparedness that you would want people to have in the event of, of a natural, a natural disaster of some sort. Yeah.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And it is reflective of the carelessness with which people in our government, that careless attitude that people in our government have towards nuclear war and a nuclear attack itself. even as they set us up for failure in pushing us closer and closer to the brink of a nuclear war occurring, whether it be an intentional attack or as we saw during the last Cold War, one that
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
could be launched unintentionally. You know, how many near misses were there during the last Cold War? I saw this documentary called The Man Who Saved the World, and it was some like mid-level documentary officer who happened to be on duty and who didn't do what he was told in launching the nuclear missiles because of what they thought was an incoming attack.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And it turned out to be a complete mistake or misread on the radar. But that's what we're facing.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It's sad that... I mean, to me, that's what we should expect of our leaders, is exactly that. And it's sad that... having a leader in that position fulfill their responsibility and the oath that they take is seen as a heroic act when we should like, that's the, that's your job. That's what we elect our leaders, uh, to do. And yet so many, so many have failed, but to your, to your point, um,
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It's not cynical at all to know that in those rooms, especially in these moments of crisis, unfortunately, there are the predominant prevailing opinion that Of this warmongering establishment that's not specific to one party is the knee-jerk reaction, which is to go to war or to execute an act of war. And this is...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
one of the biggest costs of this establishment destroying the reputations of and smearing and trying to cancel and censor those who are voices of peace or just those who take a contrarian position and say, well, hey, Why don't we just pause for a moment and actually think this through? Why don't we talk through what happens if we take this course of action?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
What happens if we go down a different path? Let's actually be thoughtful about what our options are for A, B, and C, and then make the decision in a thoughtful manner based on that. Even advocating for that is seen as a kind of heresy in the warmongering establishment in Washington.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And the cost of this – the cost of their retaliation against those who are reasonable voices, who look at the world as it is, not some fantasy that they wish existed, is in those rooms during those critical moments –
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
People will, even if they know in their heart or their mind that this could end really badly, their instinct is to self-censor and not speak up because they don't want to experience the wrath and ire, whether it be coming from four-star generals or the secretaries of state or defense or these high-ranking people in positions of power and influence.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
They don't want to be the one guy in the room who's just like, hey guys, let's just take a breath and actually think this through. What will happen, not just in the immediate response of this action that you're advocating for, but what are all of the other people, other actors, stakeholders in the world, how will they respond? And then how will we respond to them? How will they respond to us?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Actually go through this exercise of, in the military, this is commonly referred to as, what are the second, third, fourth order of effects that will occur as a result of pursuing a specific course of action?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It requires courage.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Which is sad, but it requires courage.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It does. And what is behind the military-industrial complex? And there are different examples of this. You can look at the pharmaceutical industry as well. There's a huge amount of money and a huge amount of power that wields tremendous influence over members of Congress.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
There are different examples of this across different sectors of our society, but I think the military-industrial complex over time, has proven itself to be the most powerful and influential. And that's what is behind it is this is why they try to destroy anyone who dares to ask the most obvious questions is because it is about power and wielding power.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
The position of the presidency certainly does. Unfortunately... we have people too often who assume the presidency from a position of weakness because they're afraid of losing power. And so they make those calculated decisions not based on what is right or for the right reasons, but instead driven by fear of loss of power and loss of influence. And that's where
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
especially given all that we are facing, we need leaders in the presidency and in Congress who have courage to be that voice in the room, to ask about, to remain mindful of and rooted in the constitution, to even as we are seeing this legislation being billed as the anti-TikTok bill, that's really not about TikTok. It's about freedom of speech.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Yes, this is another, I guess the bottom line up front is this is another piece of legislation being expedited through Congress with strong bipartisan support in the name of national security interests that is essentially a power grab and an assault on freedom and liberty. And I'll just say this in I think probably like the top three things that they're not actually telling us that's in the bill.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Freedom of speech. It's our ability to be able to express ourselves, whether it be in person, on a podcast, on a social media platform, in a newspaper, whatever the platform may be. This legislation gives the executive the power to decide which platforms are acceptable for us to be able to use.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
TikTok itself, the words TikTok is not actually in the bill, but it gives the power to the president to decide... who is a foreign adversary single-handedly, no consultation with or agreement from members of Congress or anyone else. It actually gives the power to a cabinet secretary to designate who is a foreign adversary.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And if a social media platform has at least 20% ownership in a social media platform, that platform may be banned from doing business in America, essentially. But it's not just a foreign state actor that could be named as a foreign adversary. It also includes a line in the legislation that if... Let's say a person has at least 25% financial interest or ownership in a social media platform.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
They're an American citizen who may be working or living in some other country. Or working or living here, but doing business with other countries. If the executive branch of our government decides that this individual is under the influence of or controlled by... someone that they deem a foreign adversary, then that platform must not do business in America.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And that person, obviously, even an American citizen, is banned from conducting that business. They must divest, essentially. So when you look at, and this is where there's been a lot of chatter around this, when you look at Elon Musk, for example, well, you already have people in the Biden administration, even President Biden himself, implying that Elon Musk's activities need to be investigated.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Well, he is someone with Tesla who does business in a lot of countries, including China, and therefore he must be investigated.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It is not at all a stretch of imagination to say that X could be the next platform that the executive branch decides, nope, we've designated this person to be a foreign adversary and therefore his business interest cannot be allowed for the social media platform, cannot be allowed. to exist. We've seen this already with people accusing him and X of interfering in our elections.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Again, it's ironic that it's coming from the Democratic Party that they are claiming that A guy who has said himself he's committed to free speech and is allowing free speech on his platform and is not allowing the federal government to manipulate his platform by deeming which accounts are okay to, you know...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
So many. Central to those lessons learned was having my eyes open to the very real cost of war. Of course, I served in a medical unit during that first deployment to Iraq. It was 2005 during the height of that war. And unfortunately, we took a lot of casualties. We, across the entire U.S. military, my brigade that I deployed with was from the Hawaii National Guard,
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
posts their content and which accounts are not because of disinformation or whatever they claim it to be, it's not an accident that the social media platforms that have been proven to take action at the behest of the federal government and the White House to censor certain voices They're not included with or being targeted at all in this legislation or outside of it.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Yet other platforms that are not cooperating or collaborating somehow are. So the underlying issue here, this is being sold as TikTok and national security. But ultimately, even as Ron Paul said, this is legislation that's the greatest assault on liberty ever. since the Patriot Act was passed.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And this is like the Social Dilemma documentary I think exposed a lot that there is so much... There's so much that these algorithms do in these various social media platforms that's problematic, to say the least. Data security and privacy is a serious issue. These are serious things. And so let's have a conversation about these serious things and cease...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
These attempts to have our government try to tell us what we are and aren't allowed to see, where we are and aren't allowed to say what we want to say. That's really what it comes down to.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
The thing here, too, though, is this extends far beyond social media companies. This is a very specific example, but it's one example of many how those who are greedy for power are continuing to try to find ways to tell us how to live our lives.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
They are increasingly trying to tell us, again, what we're allowed to see and hear, whether it be social media companies or what shows up in a Google search engine, for example, and if they're not finding a willing and compliant platform. social media company or big tech company, then they're looking for ways to reach their hand into those tech companies and force compliance.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
But, you know, in the age of disinformation, misinformation, hate speech, all of the excuses that are given for government, either directly or indirectly through big tech, to try to censor certain voices... It really undermines the truth, which is the way to defeat bad speech is with better speech and more speech.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
we had approximately 3,000 soldiers who were operating in four different areas of Iraq. And my first task every day was to go through a list of every combat-related injury that had occurred the day before in the country. And I went through that list name by name, looking to see if any one of our Nearly 3,000 soldiers from Hawaii had been hurt in the line of duty.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Whether it's hate speech or things that you might be offended by or things that you might disagree with, the answer is not... to have some entity with the power of censorship and being the quote unquote authority to decide what is good speech and acceptable and what is bad speech and unacceptable, it's what you said.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Let's encourage this debate and encourage people who are inspired by like, no man, I saw this thing or this thing is happening and it's pissing me off. So I'm going to bring a superior argument. I'm going to show what the right way is. And gosh, this is what our founders envisioned for us as a society in this country.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And we would be so much stronger with a more engaged people and a more informed people if we had this and had it supported.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
The way that it passed through the House of Representatives with such an overwhelming bipartisan support and so quickly, and President Biden saying that if it comes across his desk, he'll sign it, I thought it would pass through very quickly.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
I'm only slightly encouraged by the fact that the Senate at least appears to be saying, hey, there are serious free speech concerns around this bill, serious civil liberties concerns around this bill. We need to do our due diligence.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
I won't say I'm cautiously optimistic because I understand how that place works, but their pause at least gives people the opportunity to continue to kind of sound the alarm and for people to call their senators and express their concerns with this. They're very real, valid concerns.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And there's a section in there as well, just kind of the last piece on this is if you use a VPN and you try to use a VPN to access this, you could have problems with the law. And you take that a step further and say, well, how would they know? There's a surveillance aspect to that.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
So once you start peeling back the layers of this really toxic onion, it leads, it really leads seriously to a pretty dark and dangerous and oppressive place.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
As a vice chair of the Democratic National Committee, one of the things that the rules of the DNC required was that officers of the DNC, of which we were, as I think there were five or six of us who were vice chairs at the time, you have to remain neutral in a Democratic primary.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
So you're not, as a party, supposed to be tipping the scales in any direction for any candidate during a primary election.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And so I had no plans to get involved for any candidate or against any candidate during that primary in just the hopes of like, all right, we got to make sure that this is a fair and balanced primary so that voters have the best opportunity to vote for the candidate of their choosing. Yeah. I saw a couple of things pretty quickly.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Number one is that the chair of the DNC at the time was a woman named Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a congresswoman out of Florida. And she made very serious decisions unilaterally that many times we found out about via tweet or press release that that showed she was tilting the scales in the favor of Hillary Clinton in that 2016 primary. The other thing that I saw was how
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
The mainstream media and those who are supposed to be in a position to be neutral arbiters to facilitate debates and forums and conversations so that voters can be best informed in who they want to vote for. We're calling Hillary Clinton the most qualified person ever to run for president in the history of our country. because of the positions that she had held as Secretary of State, as a U.S.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Senator, as First Lady, and yet they glossed over those titles without ever holding her, asking questions even, or holding her to account for her record, especially in the area of foreign policy. The job she was running for was to be Commander-in-Chief, to be the President of the United States. that responsibility to serve as commander in chief is the foremost responsibility a president has.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And then if seeing them on the list, tracking them down, where were they? Were they getting the care they needed? Would they be able to get sufficient care to stay in country and return to duty? Did I need to get them evacuated? Usually it would be to military hospitals that at that time were in Landstuhl and Ramstein in Germany.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It's essentially the one area where the president can unilaterally make decisions without Without education, healthcare, immigration, Congress has to actually pass legislation. President can come through and say, hey, here's the policies that I want. Here's legislation that I'll propose. But those changes can't be made without Congress working with Congress to pass them.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
So she was essentially being let off the hook for her record. As an American, as a soldier, as a veteran, that was a big problem for me. And so I made the decision to resign as vice chair of the DNC so that I could endorse Bernie Sanders, who largely at heart, I believe, is a non-interventionist. He hasn't focused a lot on foreign policy.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It's not at the heart of what his focus has been for decades. But he was certainly far more of a non-interventionist than Hillary Clinton, who has shown through her record to be the queen of warmongers in Washington.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
I wanted to be in a position where I would have a platform to inform voters about her record so that they could make that decision for themselves, so that they could see, hey, in this area, on this issue, which is incredibly important, there is a clear contrast between these two candidates running in the Democratic primary. And that's what drove my decision to resign and to endorse Bernie Sanders.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And that's what I went on to do throughout the rest of that primary election.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
You know, what I like most about him is he is who he is. Unapologetically so. Both in personality, but also in what he advocates for and what he's advocated for for a long time. So, you know, you can agree or disagree with his positions, but he is who he is.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
In the book, I go into a number of the central reasons why I made that choice. But fundamental to them is that the Democratic Party has become a party that is opposed to freedom, that is opposed to the central and foundational principles that exist within our founding documents. and that serve as the identity of who we are as Americans and what this country is supposed to be about.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And then from there, getting them to either Brook Army Medical Center, which is here in Texas that specialized in burn-related injuries, or to Walter Reed, and tracking them and their care until they were finally home with their families. And it never became a routine task. It never became like, okay, cool, check the list, you know, kind of dot the I's, cross the T's.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It has become a party that is controlled by this elitist cabal of warmongers who are driven, who are driving forward this quote-unquote woke agenda and And we see it through their racializing of everything. We see this through their defund the police mission. We see this through their open border policies. We see this through...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
how in their education policy they are failing our kids, and how they are pushing this narrative that ultimately is a rejection of objective truth. And the fact that it's a question up for debate about whether or not – well, actually, it's not a question up for debate for them. They are actively pushing for –
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
you know, boys who identify as girls to compete against girls in sports, changing our language so that the word woman, the identity of being a woman is essentially being erased from our society. And It is the height of hypocrisy and, frankly, an act of hatred towards women that they are so intent on doing this.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And ironic that it's coming from the party that for so long proclaimed themselves to be the greatest feminists and the most pro-woman party in the country. I go into detail around each of these issues and more in the book, but you will see as we go through each of these issues, fundamental and foundational to every one of them is that sadly the Democratic Party has become a party
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
that is so consumed by their desire for power, this insatiable hunger for power, that they are willing to destroy our republic, our democracy, our freedom, just so that they can try to hold on to power and gain more power.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Yeah, I'm glad you brought this up. You know, the book details why after 20 or so years as a member of the Democratic Party, I decided to leave. But also, and it goes through my experiences and things that I have seen and learned along the way. But I also point out exactly that fact in the book.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
But from the very beginning with the prologue is we should not be naive to think that this only exists within the Democratic Party. There are very serious problems within both of our political parties, specifically coming from politicians who are driven by this
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
desire for power and who are so afraid of losing that power that they're willing to do whatever they feel they need to do, which centers around taking away our freedom. Because the more free we are to make our own decisions, even if they may end up being the wrong decisions, but to learn from those things and
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
know that we've got to live with the consequences, the beauty and messiness of what a free society looks like. They're so afraid of us because they see us as the people and our freedom as the central threat to their ability to remain in power. I think the difference that we're seeing today is
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
is that unfortunately, we talked about this a little bit, how the Democratic Party has become a party where you must walk in lockstep with the leadership of that party or risk being faced with Um, you know, your reputation being destroyed and smeared and all of these different attacks.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It was that daily confrontation with the reality of the cost of war. Friends of mine were killed in combat. experiencing firsthand that high human cost of war caused me, you know, 20-something-year-old from Hawaii, I had left my seat in the state legislature to volunteer to deploy with my brothers and sisters in my unit to Iraq. And so recognize the cost of war, I think, in two fundamental ways.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And the reason why they do that is to, to put people like me and Bobby Kennedy and others up as an example of saying, Hey, if you step out of line, if you challenge us, this is what we're going to do to you. The Republican party has also done that. And they also have, um, politicians and leaders who are more interested in feeding the thriving system in the Washington establishment.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
But we're also seeing that the Republican Party also has some voices, and I would say increasing voices of people, and I would put Donald Trump in this category, who are challenging the quote-unquote norms of the Republican Party that are represented by people like Nikki Haley or Mike Pence, for example.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
The Republican Party is not a monolithic entity, and it means different things to different people. And that's where I think the real challenge in this next election is less... It's really less about one political party over another, and it's more about our opportunity as voters to select leaders, first of all, to fire those who are against freedom and who are...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
who by their essence are willing to take away our freedom in the name of national security and vote for people. Nobody's perfect. We shouldn't hold anybody up on a pedestal, but vote for those who are committed to the Constitution and who hold those values that represent the interests of the people.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
This is a tough question. I've known President Biden for a lot of years. I knew his son, Beau, who served in the National Guard the same time that I did. I consider Joe Biden a friend. He is someone over the years that I've talked to and shared laughs with and spent time with in different situations.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
The positive characteristics that drew me to Joe Biden of the past, they are not represented in how he has led as president. And I'll let the pundits theorize as to how that is or why that is, but the truth that I know exists, which points to his weakness, is that instead of...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
listening to his better angels uh he has instead at every turn if you go back and you you know i look back to his inauguration speech where he promised to be a president for all americans and you know during his campaign promised to be the uniter in chief to bring a country together that was deeply divided that that's the joe biden that i've known
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
For many years, a guy who has, you know, worked with different people with different backgrounds and different political views, but tried to find at different points in time a way to work together.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
At every turn, he has done the exact opposite of what he spoke about during his inauguration speech and has left us, as the American people today, more divided, less secure, both from an economic standpoint as well as a national security or safety and security standpoint, and less free as a society and as a people.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Number one is the high human cost of war on our troops and on the people in the country where this war was being waged. and also the cost on American taxpayers. Seeing then back, again, 2005 and recognizing KBR Halliburton, one of the biggest defense contracting companies then, and I know that they are still very much in that business now.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
During his 2008 campaign, yes, I think that his message resonated with so many people across generations and across different views, different backgrounds to where people cried on the night that he was elected because they felt so hopeful.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
I talk to people and I know people who set aside their entire lives to work on his campaign, to be a part of this hope and change mission that he laid out that would bring us together. Some of the people that I know personally, they gave up their lives during the campaign and after he won, they went to Washington, D.C.,
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
because they wanted to be able to do the work that he had laid out and continue to be a part of this mission that they expected would extend beyond the campaign. And they've expressed to me personally how heartbroken they were because so quickly after he was elected, instead of bringing in a new generation of fresh leadership, That was not a part of the Washington establishment.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
He instead immediately chose to surround himself with people who were more of the same old, same old, who were essentially part of the problem. And many of his actions after that... proved that fear and that broken heartedness that they felt to be true. And I'll mention one example related to civil liberties that we talked about.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
He was someone as a US Senator who gave some pretty powerful speeches on the Senate floor about his concerns with the Patriot Act, his concerns with surveillance from the NSA, his concerns with a violation of our Fourth Amendment rights and civil liberties.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
But when as president, he was confronted with leaked information about this surveillance occurring under those authorities in his presidency, he took the side of the national security state and did not take action.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
to right the wrongs that he correctly pointed out as senator and during his campaign for the presidency, which is unfortunate because he really did build this unifying momentum throughout his campaign.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And that was a huge point of distinction between him and Hillary Clinton, probably one of the biggest.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
I think it goes back to what we talked about a little bit, which is, you know, what are you driven by and what are you afraid of? And if you are concerned for whether or not you can get reelected, who's going to fund that reelection effort? Who's going to fund the presidential library and your legacy that will follow?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
There have been some documented examples around how he promised to crack down on big pharma, but when push came to shove, his Department of Justice campaign funding was threatened, and they chose not to take action, even when they had a very, very strong case to make. This was with regard to the opioid crisis in the country. Yeah.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Dick Cheney being connected with that company at one point or another. But in our camp specifically, which was one of the larger ones in Iraq at that time, There wasn't anything that happened in our camp that didn't have the KBR Halliburton logo imprinted on it. We had a big shack looking place where we ate our meals. They call it a dining facility, a DFAC in the military.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And, you know, this just goes back to the heart of why it's so essential that we have leaders who have courage and who are focused on doing what we elect them to do.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And we are human. We are fallible. We are flawed by nature. And I'll go into kind of the next one you asked about Trump, the weakness side. And the lessons that I hope have been learned from 2016 for him and his team is you have to be in a position where you are surrounding yourselves with,
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
with other people of courage who aren't just thinking about their next political job or their next job getting a cable news contract or looking for fame themselves or looking at how they can monetize their position for their whatever their next financial interest might be but people of courage
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
who know what they're up against to really seriously clean house across the federal government and the corruption and rot that is so deeply entrenched in order to truly be effective. And if he is reelected, that is my hope, that he sees...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
that he's learned from what went wrong in 2016, that he went in with a largely non-interventionist, more focused on peace agenda, and yet he surrounded himself with people who are at the heart of the warmongers in Washington and who directly went against the policies that he advocated for. On the strength side, I think it's
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It's easy to point out because it's also what has caused him to be so attacked in ways that we haven't seen before, certainly not in my lifetime. by the Democrats, by the Biden administration, not only in now, but something that started back in 2016 when he was a candidate. He's a guy who by all measures has been successful in his own life.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And because of that, he's not coming in with this desire to please Washington that many other politicians have. And because he is so willing to challenge the quote unquote norms, and these are not norms that serve the interests of the American people, these are norms that serve the interests of the most powerful, he is a direct threat.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And so that attitude and that mindset of not coming in with the kind of caution that too many politicians come in with of, wanting to be the popular one at the parties or whatever it is that they want, that is the strength that he brings.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And they served four meals a day. They brought in, and they being KBR Halliburton, they imported workers in from places like Nepal and Sri Lanka and the Philippines to come in and cook food and work at this dining facility. I got curious about how much it cost us as taxpayers. And so I started asking around some of the people.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It really stems from having a clear sense of purpose. I never saw, you know, I've served in state government, I've served on our city council in Honolulu, and served in Congress. but at no time have I seen this as a quote unquote political career. I don't have that ladder climbing ambition that a lot of politicians have. My sense of purpose is deeply rooted in my
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
my dedication and my desire in my life to be pleasing to God and to live a life of service. And what better way to be pleasing to God than to try to do my best to work for the well-being of God's children. being rooted in that has made it so that as the attacks are coming from different directions, even as people who I was friends with, former colleagues of mine, others, even family members,
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
even as they have turned away or become attackers against me themselves because of different reasons related to politics. Of course, it's a sad thing, especially when it's someone that you know personally and have had a personal friendship or relationship with. But I don't live my life trying to please politicians or please the people who show up on TV or anyone else.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
As long as I am doing my best to be pleasing to God, that is where I draw my happiness from and my fulfillment and contentment and strength.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It's everything. It is central to who I am, what inspires me, what motivates me, where I find strength, where I find peace, where I find peace. shelter and where i find happiness and this has been a constant um throughout you know times of challenge times of darkness times of heartbreak times of happiness in in um
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
always feeling very secure in knowing that God's unconditional love is ever-present. And no matter what else is happening in my life, that God is my best friend. And remaining centered and grounded in always remembering that and meditating upon that truth is, it's everything to me.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And I think at that time it was like, well, every time a soldier or a service member walks through the door, if I were to go in for breakfast and grab a banana and walk out, that's an automatic $35. per head, per meal, four times a day, thousands and thousands of people. And then we made friends. There's a pretty large Filipino community in Hawaii, a lot of Filipino soldiers from Hawaii.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
I think one of the things that's most commonly misunderstood about Hinduism that people don't know is that Hinduism is truly a monotheistic religion. That there is one God and he goes by many names that describe his different qualities and characteristics. And as you pointed out, Hinduism is uniquely of a non-sectarian spiritual practice, essentially.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It's not a quote-unquote religion that you convert into or you leave behind or whatever the case may be. And Bhagavad Gita, a central scripture and text that comes from India, literally means song of God. And the principles that are conveyed throughout the Bhagavad Gita are applicable to all of us. They are timeless truths that whether you consider yourself Christian or Catholic or
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Muslim or Jewish or Hindu, these truths are eternal and relevant through all time. So for us as kids growing up, we learned from and had bedtime stories that came from both the Bhagavad Gita and the New Testament.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
My dad was raised Catholic, my mom was raised Episcopalian, and both of them were attracted to the Bhagavad Gita as they were in their own lives searching for a more personal relationship with God than they had been able to find elsewhere in their own spiritual journeys. And that's where...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
The application of, you know, there are teachings in the Bhagavad Gita, for example, that talk about bhakti yoga. Bhakti yoga essentially translates into dedicating your life, striving to develop a loving relationship with God. uh, karma yoga. There's a chapter in the Bhagavad Gita that speaks about karma yoga.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Karma is a word that has become a part of the, you know, both karma and yoga have become very common terms. Uh, but what it really means is, um, trying to dedicate your actions in life in a way that have a positive impact on others, being of service to others.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And so for me growing up, I never really understood as a kid the idea of sectarianism, of one religion battling against another, because I knew and understood and experienced that the real meaning of religion was love for God. No matter what name you worship him by or how you worship, that is the real meaning of religion. And the application of that in your life is...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
We made friends with the Filipino workers who were there. They would often go in the back of the tents and set up their own rice cookers and cook their own meals, which is where the real good food was. But just started talking to them and getting to know them and ask like, hey, how much do you get paid? And on average, it was like, oh, I get paid like 500 bucks a month. 500 bucks a month.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
You asked how do I see God in a personal way. I know that God is my best friend. God is my confidant. When I am struggling with a problem in my life or during those quiet moments by myself where I am anxious or I'm sad,
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
I turned to God for that solace, for that clarity, for that strength to both know what the right thing to do is and the strength to act accordingly and to constantly strive to further develop that very personal, loving relationship with God.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Thank you, Lex. It's so wonderful to be here. Thank you for the opportunity.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
to go and do this work of either cleaning out porta-potties, picking up trash, the dining facility, doing laundry, all of these different tasks, because the military wanted soldiers to be out doing things that only soldiers could do. Understandable.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
But when I started putting two and two together and knowing that this company, one company alone, was making trillions of dollars, trillions of dollars, and yet this... Filipino mom is making 500 bucks a month, maybe getting one day off a week, maybe working 12 hours a day otherwise. How often are you able to go home to your family? Well, they'll let us go home a couple of weeks every other year.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
It was an eye-opening experience that growing up in Hawaii, I frankly hadn't given much thought to before. But it's what led me ultimately coming back from that first deployment. There was no way that I could go back to the life that I had left behind.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And I knew somehow, someway, I needed to find a way to use those experiences to try to make a positive impact, to try to influence those, I mean, frankly, the politicians who were making decisions to go and launch these regime change wars and send our men and women in uniform into war. And to what end, ultimately?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Name, unit, potentially location, if someone had documented that and their injury.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Yeah. Yeah. And I knew, you know, I didn't get to call home every day, but When I called home and talked to my parents, I felt the tension in their voice. And, you know, they didn't want me to worry about anything at home. And so they were always like, hey, how are you? What can we send you? And this and that.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
But, you know, it wasn't like I was calling them from down the street and saying, hey, how's it going? Let's go have lunch or whatever. And so I knew that the reason for that tension was they were terrified of getting a phone call delivering the worst possible news. And that was what I thought of as I went through that list of how it is the reality of war.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Behind every one of those names on that list was a husband or a wife, parents, sons and daughters, family members. who had no idea what we were dealing with, really. All they knew was what they saw on the news.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
And what my dad told me later when I got home after that deployment was that every time they saw the news and they saw a helicopter shot down or crashed or some IED, they held their breath until they saw or heard the news of who it was or what it was.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
The physical, you know, I mean, some injuries appeared to be minor up front. At that time, traumatic brain injury was not something that was talked about much, if at all. And so, you know, many had visible wounds. Others are now what we know were appeared like, all right, cool, he checked out, but had invisible wounds.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Those who were injured in a way that did not allow them to get back to work found it emotionally very difficult to be put on a plane and evacuated out of there, feeling guilty that they were leaving their friends behind. And... not thinking about themselves or not feeling bad for themselves, but instead feeling bad for being forced to be in a position to leave. You know, for soldiers, it's not...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
Of course, we all have our own political opinions on things. But when it comes right down to it, in a war zone, it's about your friends. It's about your brothers and sisters that you're serving alongside. It's not about the politicians or whatever insanity is going on in Washington. It's about... getting up and going out, getting the job done and coming back home together.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
I mean, I had friends of mine who were from Hawaii, who were from American Samoa, very culturally tight knit community who confided in me throughout that, you know, year that we were there. Some of the very infantry soldiers who were going out on security patrols and, and doing raids every day, um, just some of the very traumatic experiences that they went through.
Morning Wire
NSA Chat Crackdown & Bondi Warns Maine | Afternoon Update | 2.26.25
These are exactly the kind of people that we need to root out, get rid of, so that the patriots who do work in this area, who are committed to our core mission, can actually focus on that. I have people within the intelligence community reaching out to me personally and directly saying, hey, you need to know about this. You need to look over here.
Morning Wire
NSA Chat Crackdown & Bondi Warns Maine | Afternoon Update | 2.26.25
People are stepping forward because they are all on board with the mission to clean house and refocus on our core mission of serving the American people.
Morning Wire
Black Sea Ceasefire & Signal Leak Hearing | Afternoon Update | 3.25.25
Senator, I can attest to the fact that there were no classified or intelligence equities that were included in that chat group at any time.
Morning Wire
Black Sea Ceasefire & Signal Leak Hearing | Afternoon Update | 3.25.25
I defer to the Secretary of Defense and the National Security Council on that question.
Morning Wire
Plane Crash Recovery & Cabinet Hearings Clashes | 1.31.25
Those who oppose my nomination imply that I am loyal to something or someone other than God, my own conscience, and the Constitution of the United States. Accusing me of being Trump's puppet, Putin's puppet, Assad's puppet, a guru's puppet, Modi's puppet. The fact is what truly unsettles my political opponents is I refuse to be their puppet.
Morning Wire
Plane Crash Recovery & Cabinet Hearings Clashes | 1.31.25
As someone who has worn our uniform in combat, I understand how critical our national security is.
Morning Wire
Plane Crash Recovery & Cabinet Hearings Clashes | 1.31.25
I shed no tears for the fall of the Assad regime, but today we have an Islamist extremist who is now in charge of Syria, who danced on the streets to celebrate the 9-11 attack, and who has already begun to persecute and kill and arrest religious minorities like Christians in Syria.
Morning Wire
White House Easter Message & New Weight Loss Pill | Afternoon Update | 4.18.25
The other day, we discovered and found another 50,000 pages specifically related to the assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy. And so the work you're seeing happening here today is going to continue on as we have other teams going out and doing those searches and hunting for additional records that, once again, have not been found or released to the public ever before.
Pivot
OpenAI Abandons For-Profit Plans, Disney and Uber Earnings, and Meta’s “Creepy” AI
No, no. Well, I still believe that, but, you know, takes two to tango, right? But no, I do. I mean, I believe it would be a massive tax cut for the Canadian citizens. You get free military, you get tremendous medical cares and other things.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2166 - Democrat Launches Verbal ASSAULT on Disabled Texas Governor: “HOT WHEELS”
I won't speak to this because it's under review by the National Security Council. Once that review is complete, I'm sure we'll share the results with the committee.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2166 - Democrat Launches Verbal ASSAULT on Disabled Texas Governor: “HOT WHEELS”
National Security Council is reviewing all aspects of how this came to be, how the journalist was inadvertently added to the group chat, and what occurred within that chat across the board.
The Dan Bongino Show
Shake-Up In The White House Press Room (Ep. 2431)
Well, Jesse, what we're going to do has already been done. There are over 100 people from across the intelligence community that contributed to and participated in this. What is really just an egregious violation of trust? What to speak of like basic rules and standards around professionalism?
The Dan Bongino Show
Shake-Up In The White House Press Room (Ep. 2431)
I put out a directive today that they all will be terminated and their security clearances will be revoked.
The Dan Bongino Show
Which Cabinet Member Was The Biden Admin Spying On? | Episode 34
But the thing that we are working with Jay Bhattacharya, the new NIH director on with as well as Secretary Kennedy, is looking at the gain of function research that in the case of the Wuhan lab, as well as many of these other bio labs around the world, was actually U.S.
The Dan Bongino Show
Which Cabinet Member Was The Biden Admin Spying On? | Episode 34
funded and leads to this dangerous kind of research that in many examples has resulted in either a pandemic or some other major health crisis.
The Dan Bongino Show
Which Cabinet Member Was The Biden Admin Spying On? | Episode 34
We are working on that with Jay Bhattacharya and look forward to being able to share that, hopefully very soon. That specific link. Correct. Between the gain of function research and what we saw with COVID-19.
The Dan Bongino Show
Former FBI Director Threatens Trump - And Now The Secret Service Is Involved - Ft. Joe Concha | Episode 45
Are you buying that the former FBI director didn't know what 86 Trump meant?
The Dan Bongino Show
Where Are All The Files? | Episode 20
We've got a long list of things that we're investigating. We have the best of the best going after this. Election integrity being one of them. We have evidence of how these electronic voting systems have been vulnerable to hackers for a very long time.
The Dan Bongino Show
Where Are All The Files? | Episode 20
and vulnerable to exploitation to manipulate the results of the votes being cast, which further drives forward your mandate to bring about paper ballots across the country so that voters can have faith in the integrity of our elections.
The Dan Bongino Show
Where Are All The Files? | Episode 20
And lastly, we've been scanning. I've had over 100 people working around the clock to scan the paper around RFK, Senator Robert F. Kennedy's assassination, as well as Martin Luther King Jr. 's assassination. These have been sitting in boxes in storage for decades. They have never been scanned or seen before. We'll have those ready to release here within the next few days.
The Dan Bongino Show
Where Are All The Files? | Episode 20
The more we dig, the more we find. And we see how people are sometimes in some cases resistant to providing us with those documents. In other cases, they have been hidden with the hopes that no one would ever find them.
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
I want to bring the conversation back to the broken criminal justice system that is disproportionately negatively impacting black and brown people all across this country today. Senator Harris says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor and that she'll be a prosecutor president, but I'm deeply concerned about this record.
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
There are too many examples to cite, but she put over 1500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana. She blocked evidence. She blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so.
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
Yeah, you know, and I may be the only one on this panel, but I'm not really willing yet to, you know, say wholeheartedly that I don't believe there's not a possibility for a second shooter. There's a guy named John Colon, I believe. He put a video out that had some evidence that, you know, I think this task force should take a look at. And it just, it showed the bullet traveling down the...
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
the bleachers and the trajectory and the angle of this bullet and the flight path and it disturbing people's clothes and one guy hits the deck and then it hitting hitting the railing and you see the puff of the railing it was not in line at all with crooks who's over here it was it was this way so
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
I'm not willing to go there yet and say, hey, I know for a fact it was Thomas Crooks who acted alone. But going back to Chip's point of I don't believe, I don't believe that the FBI is going to get to the bottom of this. And even if they did, I don't believe that they would give us the truth. I don't believe their story about the J6 pipe bomber. And I know you have questions about it too, Dan.
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
She kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California. And she fought to keep cash bail system in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way.
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
And Dan, I actually questioned Christopher Wray, Director Wray in Homeland Security earlier this year. And I said, I asked him if he knew how many individuals were arrested going into the Capitol. And I can't remember exactly what it was. It was several hundred. I think it was close to, you know, close to a thousand, if not over a thousand.
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
And many of those people, Dan, as you know, were just, you know, they were actually allowed into the Capitol. Okay. Whether they should have gone, whether they shouldn't have gone, that's not the issue. But I asked him, so are you telling me, sir, that the FBI couldn't find the one individual that could have committed multiple mass casualties?
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
You guys could arrest all these other people, but you couldn't find the one person. And he said, no, you know, Congressman, we're working on it. We've got, you know, a task force on it and all this stuff. I don't believe it.
The Journal.
Trump 2.0: Group Chat Fallout
The conversation was candid and sensitive. But as the President and National Security Advisor stated, no classified information was shared. There were no sources, methods, locations, or war plans that were shared.
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1527 - Why The Plane Crash Was Entirely Foreseeable And Preventable
Senator, if confirmed as Director of National Intelligence, I will work with you to make sure that there is not another Snowden-like leak.
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1527 - Why The Plane Crash Was Entirely Foreseeable And Preventable
Senator, as someone who has served in uniform.
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1527 - Why The Plane Crash Was Entirely Foreseeable And Preventable
As someone who has worn our uniform in combat, I understand how critical our national security is.
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1527 - Why The Plane Crash Was Entirely Foreseeable And Preventable
attention to the egregious civil liberties violations that were occurring at that time. Ms.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tulsi vs. the Establishment, Kash on Hot Seat, and RFK's Final Push, with Glenn Greenwald, Calley Means, and More | Ep. 996
I'm aware of those conclusions drawn. Are you aware at the time? Yes, I was, Senator. Edward Snowden broke the law. There's no question about that. He should not have released all of that information that caused that harm.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tulsi vs. the Establishment, Kash on Hot Seat, and RFK's Final Push, with Glenn Greenwald, Calley Means, and More | Ep. 996
I take very seriously upholding our Constitution. Confirmed as Director of National Intelligence, I would take seriously the responsibility to protect our nation's secrets, just as I have for almost 20 years of holding a security clearance of some sort myself.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tulsi vs. the Establishment, Kash on Hot Seat, and RFK's Final Push, with Glenn Greenwald, Calley Means, and More | Ep. 996
Senator, my heart is with my commitment to our Constitution and our nation's security. Ours too. Thank you. I have shown throughout my almost 22 years of service in the military, as well as my time in Congress, how seriously I take the privilege of having access to classified information.
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Senator, I'm focused on the future and how we can prevent something like this from happening again.
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Senator, I will also repeat my answer. He broke the law. You said, this is when the rubber hits the road. I will work with you to make sure that there is not another Snowden-like leak.
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Your answer, yes or no,
The Megyn Kelly Show
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As someone who has worn our uniform in combat, I understand how critical our national security is.
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I don't understand what you're saying. False?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tulsi vs. the Establishment, Kash on Hot Seat, and RFK's Final Push, with Glenn Greenwald, Calley Means, and More | Ep. 996
Edward Snowden broke the law, and he released this information in a way that he should not have. He also acknowledged and exposed information that was unconstitutional, which drove a lot of the reforms that this body has made over the years to make sure that Americans' constitutional rights are protected.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tulsi vs. the Establishment, Kash on Hot Seat, and RFK's Final Push, with Glenn Greenwald, Calley Means, and More | Ep. 996
Again, Senator, that's not for me to say. That would be for you all to decide and for the Attorney General to weigh in on.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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This is the center of the debate, the high standard of probable cause that's required to get a warrant.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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My understanding is that it would be in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You may hear lies and smears in this hearing that'll challenge my loyalty to and my love for our country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tulsi vs. the Establishment, Kash on Hot Seat, and RFK's Final Push, with Glenn Greenwald, Calley Means, and More | Ep. 996
Those who oppose my nomination imply that I am loyal to something or someone other than God, my own conscience, and the Constitution of the United States, accusing me of being Trump's puppet, Putin's puppet, Assad's puppet, a guru's puppet, Modi's puppet, not recognizing the absurdity of simultaneously being the puppet of five different puppet masters.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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The fact is what truly unsettles my political opponents is I refuse to be their puppet.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Senator, I don't pay attention to Russian propaganda. My goal is to speak the truth, regardless of whether you like it or not.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking NSA Chat Logs, Bezos Causes New WashPost Staff Revolt, and White House vs. Press, with Buck Sexton | Ep. 1015
Well, Jesse, what we're going to do has already been done. There are over 100 people from across the intelligence community that contributed to and participated in this. What is really just an egregious violation of trust, what to speak of, like basic rules and standards around professionalism.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I put out a directive today that they all will be terminated and their security clearances will be revoked. They were brazen in using an NSA platform intended for professional use to conduct this kind of really, really horrific behavior. And they were brazen in doing this because When was the last time anyone was really held accountable?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Today's action and holding these individuals accountable is just the beginning of what we're seeing across the Trump administration, which is carrying out the mandate the American people gave him. Clean house, root out that rot and corruption. Go ahead, Baca.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tulsi Gabbard on Investigating the Leaks, Fighting the Deep State, and Whether She'll Run in 2028 | Ep. 1061
And this gets to the real heart of the challenge here and the problems that we've seen is the politicization of intelligence to meet a certain objective or to influence a certain policy. And that is what has been the problem. This goes all the way back to why this organization was founded. When you look at the so-called intelligence that really was used to spur the Iraq war, regime change war.
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And look at what that has cost our country in lives, in treasure. Look at what it's cost the world. Look at what Iraq is today, now essentially a proxy of Iran, when Iraq, that would not have happened had that regime change war not occurred. So again, this is really what is at the heart of what needs to be addressed within the intelligence community and why leadership matters so much.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I served in a medical unit. And it was with a unit out of Hawaii, Infantry Brigade Combat Team. And my first task every single day was to go through a list of all of those who had been casualties the day before, those who were injured. I was the first one notified when there was someone who was killed in action.
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And ultimately to make sure that those who were injured either got the medical care they needed, that they were evacuated as quickly as possible and then making sure that they were getting that care all the way until they got home or getting them back out into the field. But every day, going through this list of names and thinking about those at home who I knew because I heard from my parents,
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were worrying and terrified of their phone ringing and the most terrible outcome of their loved one, their husband or wife or son or daughter, brother or sister, being in a position where they have paid the ultimate price in service to our country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And this is such an important thing because too often, as you know very well, covering all of these issues for so long that you have politicians who debate whether do we go to war here or there? Do we go topple this government or that government? And too often it is so detached from the real consequences that come from those decisions.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And we see the same reflected here at times, again, when we have people who are working within the intelligence community who perhaps in some cases have become too detached from from the impact of their work on those who are making life and death decisions for our country and the potential to either go to war or to prevent war as President Trump is trying to do on many fronts.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And you have those who are co-opted by the military industrial complex abusing their position to feed or manipulate intelligence, as we saw with the Iraq War, to start a new war. This intelligence community, the work that gets done in places like this every single day, has that power. Mm-hmm. to be the fodder, the fuel, the seed that can lead to yet another unnecessary war.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Yeah, the New York Times article was a result of an unfortunate, unauthorized, and illegal leak of a very private conversation between the president and his advisers. I won't get into the details, but it was a very robust discussion that really speaks to President Trump's care and thoughtfulness as he makes his decisions around these very serious issues of war and peace.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Ultimately, what we are doing is providing the president with the facts. the intelligence. Here is what the intelligence is telling us as the Secretary of Defense. Here are the options that are on the table and the likely outcomes that could occur if you go with course of action A, B, or C. And ultimately, it's the president who makes the decision.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And he has made it clear time and time again that his goal with Iran, first of all, they cannot be in a position where they can develop or have a nuclear weapon. and that he believes and is confident in the opportunity that this moment provides to be able to achieve that outcome through peaceful means, through diplomacy, and through negotiations.
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And he knows that that's what's in the best interest for the American people and for the world.
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First of all, the military option is always on the table. The president often talks about peace through strength. And he means what he says when he talks about his objective, which is also Prime Minister Netanyahu's objective. And I think many countries in the world would agree that Iran cannot be in a position to have a nuclear weapon or to develop a nuclear weapon. That is unequivocal.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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How we get there is really the question. The president is of the mind as he has been consistently through his first term in office as he is now. If there is a way to achieve what is in our best national security interests through peaceful means, through negotiations, not blind trust, like, okay, we're just going to believe whatever they say. Not at all.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Any deal that is potentially made with Iran will have to come with a very, very rigorous set of verification means. Nothing like the failure that was the JCPOA that President Obama negotiated. The deal that President Trump, through his very talented and exceptional ambassador in Steve Witkoff, is negotiating is a deal that will best serve the security interests of the American people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Yeah, of course. The pressure's there. The debate is happening in the public, which I think is a good thing. It's a positive thing that we're hearing from different elements. Yes, even within the Republican Party. Even if they're leaking? I mean, because we're hearing from them that way. Well, the leaks should not... The leaks have to end. If the president can't have the confidence...
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that he can sit in a room with his closest advisors without it leaking to the public, then that is something that really undermines his being best served with the best possible information, with debate, robust debate around the table, which you look at the team of people he's assembled, he likes that debate because he sees the value in hearing different perspectives so that he can make that best informed decision.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But when we look at this debate that's happening kind of in the public town square, whether it be digital or TV or whatever the platform is there, I think it's important for the American people to see the contrast and the difference between the neocons who are very ready to rush into war without allowing what President Kennedy spoke about in his historic speech at American University, which was to choose peace
The Megyn Kelly Show
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to do the hard work of diplomacy, to recognize the true cost and the serious cost of war, and that it requires strong leadership to do the hard work of diplomacy in order to achieve peace however and wherever possible, and that it's not something that you just go, okay, good, we got peace, and then you walk away. No, it requires consistent engagement and that strong leadership
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that once again strikes that balance and recognizes that we cannot be prosperous unless we are at peace as a nation and ensuring our nation's security. We have the strongest and most capable military in the world. And I can say as someone who still serves in the Army Reserve and has now for 22 years. You're too busy for that. A little bit.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But my, you know, those who I've had the privilege of serving alongside, I had the chance to go and do some PT with Pete Hegseth and some Marines the other day. You still got it? Are you still there? You know, I'm giving the kids a run for their money. And I'm good with that. But it's recognizing, again, yes, we have the capability to defend our safety, security, and freedom anywhere, anytime.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But it takes a strong leader and a strong president to choose peace and diplomacy, recognizing that war and the use of our military because of the sacrifices of these young men and women from all across the country that is required when you go to war. President Trump takes that very seriously.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You know, you mentioned that example of that New York Times article. There were a number of things in that article that were completely inaccurate, which speaks to, again, and there is an investigation that's underway to try to figure out the source of this leak or sources of this leak around that specific incident.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But the effect is, I mean, it makes things much harder in constantly questioning and looking over your shoulder. Okay, who's in the room? I have to be careful about everything that I say because ultimately we're in a situation where these things being leaked...
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either by people who are just trying to show a reporter that they're important or chasing clout of some sort, or the most dangerous of which is those who are trying to ultimately undermine the president's policies. And this is not just like, okay, we don't like Trump or someone who has a problem with President Trump and his policies. Really what is happening when they do that
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is they're undermining our democracy because what they're doing in whatever tactic they use is saying, well, I'm doing what's best for the country and I know what's better for the country than the majority, the vast majority of the American people who chose this duly elected president, Donald Trump.
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Yes. So we're sitting here in the lobby of the buildings known as Liberty Crossing of the Office of Director of National Intelligence. This organization was formed because of the disaster of the intelligence community that led, that could have prevented the attack on 9-11 had there been a
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And that's where you can agree or disagree with his policies, but when people cross that line who are in these positions of power and influence, they are actually undermining our democracy and our security in doing so.
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That's the goal.
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The only way we bring about accountability is by doing the work of conducting these investigations The Department of Justice and the FBI obviously have different tools that they can use in order to find the truth and to seek out that evidence so that we can actually prosecute these crimes.
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Do they still work here? In some cases they know. In other cases they are likely not aware. We have another 11 cases that we are still conducting our own internal investigations around. Some will be sent to the Department of Justice for further investigation and prosecution for criminal charges because it is a federal crime.
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And others, depending on the situation, will be dealt with internally where people will be fired and have their security clearance revoked.
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There's a few things to add to that to kind of color out the picture. One of the most often tactics that these leakers use is they will take, let's say it's a six-page top secret classified document.
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And they will pull a line from page one and a line from page two and a line from page three that when put together supports the narrative that they are trying to push but is not at all reflective of the kind of conclusive analysis in that report. And that's exactly what happened in this case.
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So they very selectively and intentionally left out what was really the most important thing, which was that the FBI very clearly is the intelligence element that is responsible for domestic security. So it shouldn't be a surprise then that they are the element that said yes.
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The Maduro Venezuelan government is supporting Trend de Aragua and their criminal activities here, enabled by President Biden's four years of open borders, where they very freely came in and out of our country and were able to begin to control territory here in the United States. The CIA doesn't collect intelligence here.
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in the United States because that is not within their writ or their authorities. So again, this is why we look at the ways that intelligence leaks are politicized is by the selective picking and choosing and very clearly leaving out the thing that actually supports what the president is doing here.
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integration of intelligence had the CIA been talking to the FBI and all of these different people who had different pieces of information but weren't talking to and sharing that information intelligence with each other followed by the the intelligence failure of the Iraq war that ultimately led to the creation of this organization so we're sitting here in the lobby this is the very first interview that's ever been done in this lobby and potentially in this building anywhere so I'm honored it's a special
The Megyn Kelly Show
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What's your reaction? I mean, it's such a dangerous thing. And again, it's preposterous in my view that these judges, the judicial branch obviously plays an important role in our three co-equal branches of government, but they should understand what their role is. And these activist judges who now somehow believe that they're in the position of making policy,
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by undermining the president's legal authorities and orders bestowed upon him by the American people. He did the hard work and put his name on the ballot and ran for office. If these judges want to run for office and be president, go ahead and do that. Go make your policies. Go state your views and your opinions. But they are politicizing the bench
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and showing how through their activism, they are undermining really, frankly, their own credibility in doing this. And again, another thing that undermines the American people's faith and trust that these institutions, that the judicial branch in some of these cases is actually doing their job. You do a presidential daily brief every day.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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It's crazy. One more thing I'll add on that because you mentioned of leakers within the intelligence community. Unfortunately, we have them and they have been there for far too long and we are trying to root them out. But there's also another source of leaks coming from Congress where certain staffers and members of Congress have access to to this very same intelligence.
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And as you can imagine, some may find it in their interest to selectively leak intelligence, once again, to support the talking points that they are delivering that are undermining the president's actions to root out these cartels and these gangs to keep the American people safe.
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When we just take a step back and look at the arguments that many of these Democrats in Congress are making and how hard they're fighting and these judges, it makes zero sense in really President Trump's mission is very clear. We are trying to make our country safe. We're getting rid of the most dangerous of gangs and criminals and cartels.
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How is this not the most bipartisan issue that exists in the country?
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They need more due process. Right. But not when they illegally came across the border.
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So as we started the conversation, we talked about why this organization exists. The ODNI exists to be that integrating element pulling together information in this case from the DEA who's been focused on these cartels for a very long time because of their counter narcotics trade.
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The intelligence that the FBI has collected as they're looking at the criminal activities that these cartels are conducting right here in communities all across the country.
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You look at the databases that we already have in place and have had in place for a very long time in being able to keep track of known and suspected Islamist terrorists from different parts of the world who may be trying to come into our country. Or did come in under Biden. Well, that's exactly the point. And so this is kind of the nucleus problem.
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for all of the intelligence and information that's being collected about all these different individuals. And it allows us, our National Counterterrorism Center, great people who work there, they deliver almost every day on keeping the American people safe.
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In some of the examples that you mentioned of providing information on these over 750 individuals who we know are members of these three major cartels. just yesterday identifying almost 600 people who are known or suspected terrorists, who illegally came into our country, who applied for asylum under Joe Biden's administration, and who were then released out into our country.
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And this is the 20th anniversary of the founding of this organization.
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And so being able to get their names and work with the FBI, work with Department of Homeland Security, for the cartels working with the DEA so that we can find them and either prosecute them or immediately deport them and get them out of our country and to stop them from entering into our country in the first place, either by legal or illegal means.
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By the time it comes to us here at our National Counterterrorism Center, extensive work has already been done by the DEA, by the FBI, in order for their names to even be entered into our system. So my level of confidence is high because it's high because of the work that I know that these DEA agents are doing, that these FBI agents are doing.
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My office as the Director of National Intelligence, we have 12 regional representatives all across the country, and I've been spending time getting out to them and having conversations not only with them, and it's usually the FBI special agent in charge of that FBI office,
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But we have people from every element of the intelligence community, every element of Department of Homeland Security, DEA, all of the domestic law enforcement agencies. And they are working together as a team, sharing that information, working together on these cases to be able to identify who these people are and ultimately to track them down and deport them or arrest and prosecute them.
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I was on the Armed Services and the Foreign Affairs Committee. So it was interesting as a member of Congress there for eight years on those subject matter committees, I was a customer of intelligence. very frequently, some of the highest levels of intelligence as well as kind of the broader intelligence briefings that we had.
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Well, first of all, I mean, it's already happening. These cartels are already finding their emplacements here, having their own version of a headquarters in different cities and towns across the country. The capabilities of these cartels, we are not underestimating. at all. It is quite an eye-opening thing when we look at how their operations are running and their capabilities.
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And I won't go into detail here, but it really speaks to why President Trump recognized this as this greatest domestic threat, which goes back to the annual threat assessment and where I detailed this
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and why, and also how the Department of Defense is now working with Department of Homeland Security really to secure our border and will play an integral role in going after and defeating these cartels, working very closely with Mexico and their government and their officials.
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And that's where taking this very expansive approach all at once is so essential. No one is naive at all in thinking that this is just going to be like, oh, we'll conduct a few operations and then just knock this all out.
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But also thinking through very carefully kind of the lessons learned from the last war on drugs that ultimately ended up just being a prolonged war that we never really saw much progress on.
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And so I, at that time, experienced a level of frustration that's common if you were to ask most members of Congress in that the briefings that we received then, more often than not,
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were things that we had already read about in the newspapers, seen on the news the night before, and just didn't get much value from it to better inform the decisions that we had to make related to our military or military operations or foreign policy decisions. And that was, you know, I left Congress and my last day was January 3rd of 2021.
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I don't know why they can't find a single thing that they can agree with the president on. Not a single thing. You know, this deal was very important to the president to get done. And today was a big day. A lot of work went into getting this deal signed today.
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because he values the fact that, as he talked about earlier in the cabinet meeting today, about how the American taxpayer has provided overall, when you look at all of the aid that's been given to Ukraine since the Russia-Ukraine war started, $350 billion.
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And when you look at some of the deals that some of the other European countries made with the aid they provided with Ukraine, A, either they used frozen Russian money so they weren't using their taxpayer dollars. They found a way to give them, you know, frozen money from Russian funds. And in other areas, they said, OK, we'll loan you this money and we'll figure out a payback plan for the future.
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But not us, not the Biden administration. This money was just given. That's it. So President Trump understood that, was very, very, very bothered by it, that the American people are just out of pocket on this without any means of any kind of repayment whatsoever. And so this minerals deal is a way for the American people to get some form of repayment.
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not return, but some kind of a repayment based on the taxpayer dollars that have been expended and used to pay for someone else's government to be run, to pay for someone else's infrastructure, even outside of all of the weapons system, while we still have communities here who have failing infrastructure, who have poisonous water, who have people still in western North Carolina who are homeless.
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and don't have the basic needs that they have. And so this deal, yes, of course, he wouldn't have made the deal if they don't have these rare earth and minerals that still need to be mined. But of course we checked. He's not going to go and make a blind deal based on just a handshake.
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And as I was going through the confirmation process for this job, and I was meeting with the different senators, it was interesting that they expressed that same frustration to me. And many of these senators were members of the Intelligence Committee, which really spoke to how much work there is to do still.
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And so this is a win for the American people and it's a win for the Ukrainian people because this joint partnership is something that is mutually beneficial for the people of both of our countries.
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I want to go back on, you remember the tragic wildfire that hit my home community of Lahaina. I didn't live there, but it was within my district when I was in Congress. And how many lives were lost and an entire town just razed to the ground.
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And when I went there just a couple of days after that fire happened and went out and talked to the people there on West Maui, and the fact that so many of them, not connected to each other, completely different conversations, different households, different locations, said, gosh, if only we were Ukraine, maybe somebody would pay attention to us.
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And that just speaks to what we're talking about here. And so this is this community of Lahaina now, who is only now, by the way, just starting to rebuild homes in communities and places where they have lived for generations. We talk about Western North Carolina.
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And the very, very, very slow rebuild process that's going on there, that people who lost their homes are still paying property taxes and mortgages for the land and the home that they have, that they are not able to live on in any way at all. You look at... I don't think I'd do it. I don't think I'd be doing it. That's the thing, is those are two of many examples.
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You have a level of poverty in West Virginia that I think many Americans would not see if but going to a third world country on the other side of the planet. The needs that we have here are very real. And part of the dissatisfaction that the American people have had for so long in our government is that the government, by and large, FEMA is a great example.
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You take all of this money, so much of this money, and it feeds into this bureaucracy. And you have all these officials going to places like Western North Carolina. I went there. And you hear the angst in people's voices when they say, no, FEMA hasn't been here. And they're hoarding supplies here or there. They're saying, hey, here you go. Here's 500 bucks. Like, what a freaking insult that is.
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And then they see what's going on with, oh, we sent another 50 billion to Ukraine today. And the next, oh, we sent another 100 billion. And how people are celebrating that. when they're not even looking at what's happening in our own backyard.
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And this is what I saw and experienced when I was helping President Trump during his election campaign was that there was a spark of hope in people's hearts when they saw that he was addressing the very things that they were most concerned about, their health and well-being, securing our borders, not allowing boys to play in girls' sports or allowing them into girls' sports.
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bathrooms, things that are common sense and address the everyday needs of the American people, our security, him being the president of peace and trying to prevent war. This is a shift.
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This is the beginning of a shift to what we are all seeking to bring about, which is in this 250th anniversary of the founding of our country, how about let's have a government that actually serves the people, a government that is of, by, and for the people.
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I smiled.
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And a number of other people, by the way, when you look at the 51 former intelligence officials who signed that Hunter Biden disinformation letter and never apologized for it, never held themselves accountable for it. Yes, Mark Zaid, you had Letitia James and others. Why does she even have one?
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Well, some of them didn't have clearances, but they had access to classified information, and so we took away that access for those. Yeah, Alvin Bragg. Who didn't have clearances, yes. Okay. And there are more to come, and this is part of what we're doing in our investigative work as we go back and look, for example, at Crossfire Hurricane and how there were assistant U.S. attorneys who,
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who were knowingly using manufactured testimony, that they would interview a witness, for example, and know that the witness was lying to them, either because they set up the lie or they knew that the witness was lying, took that lie and used it as evidence to get a warrant under FISA to go and surveil on Americans. which is completely illegal.
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But honestly, the first thing that I did was actually send out an email to all the people who work here and said, I'll be down here in this lobby where we are right now. I think it was at 12 o'clock. And if you're free, I'd love to come and introduce myself and say hello. It was standing room only here.
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And so these are the kinds of things, those types of people, those assistant U.S. attorneys or those FBI agents that were involved in this kind of stuff, these are crimes that need to be prosecuted and these people need to be held accountable. Will that happen? That will happen.
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There's a lot of... They are helping us. They have incredible tools and a lot of lessons learned through the work that they've done. Okay. And so they are helping us and allowing us the opportunity to be able to apply those here. So we're not trying to reinvent the machine at all, and we're able to get after the things we're looking for. So how...
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How much was going out the door on DEI programs and hires and so on? So there was a DEI office that was immediately shut down, and that alone was a savings of around $20 million. But the thing that we just announced today, in fact, was the closure of this Office of Human Capital, a completely different part of the organization.
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And one that sounds like, okay, well, maybe this is like talent management. You're trying to go out and see, well, where's the best talent and where are the gaps we need to fill, which is what I thought. But it turns out that it was an office where the previous administration kind of hid a bunch of their DEI people, knowing that this action was going to be taken by President Trump.
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And there was a slush fund there that they would use to fund people millions of dollars to go to DEI conferences and talk to other DEI people. And so we shut that down at a savings of $150 million today. But the thing that I think a lot of people would be surprised by, when people talk about DEI and you hear...
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You know, whether it's CNN, MSNBC, they talk about DEI and they criticize the president for his action and the actions that we are all taking to get rid of this, claiming that we're against diversity and all of this other crap. When I came in here, I was able to talk with some of the people who work here.
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DEI was such a priority that it was baked into the incentive structure for people to advance professionally here. And I would imagine it was very similar across the federal government, where some employees told me that they were put in a position where they had to spend half of their time
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working on DEI initiatives in order for them to be able to put it on their annual evaluation and therefore be noted as, oh, you are more likely to get promoted if you are spending this significant amount of time on this diversity, equity, inclusion initiatives. And for me, I'm like, how in the world would you spend half of your time on that? What were you creating?
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I was grateful to be able to have the opportunity to just immediately address those who work here, intelligence professionals, analysts, people who are subject matter experts in different areas, some of the support staff who are here and kind of keep the lights on.
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And I don't really know the answer to that, but I do know the answer to our national security on that question. Because what that means is in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and we have people here who work from all across of these 18 intelligence elements,
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being put in a position where they're told if you want to get promoted, if you want to advance in your career, the priority is not are you delivering the best quality intelligence assessments and analysis to best inform the president's most critical decisions. No, you will advance professionally if you show that you're dedicating half of your day towards these DEI initiatives. Your implicit bias.
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Exactly, exactly. And so when we look at why this was a priority for the president, this is not some superficial thing. There are national security implications to what the Biden administration was doing in centering almost their entire administration around DEI initiatives. You can take this towards any domestic agency. Look at the Department of Education.
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Shouldn't they be focused on educating our kids?
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Yeah.
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This is a great example. So there was someone who snuck into that chat that was not an employee there. And they screenshotted what they saw and leaked it out on X. And again, this is a chat group that was created and administered by the NSA, one of the premier intelligence collection entities that we have. And it was obscene. It was obscene. Yes, it was about all of those things.
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It was talking about sex toys and sex tricks for people who had gone through, you know, some kind of transgender surgery or... During the workday. This is during the workday on an intelligence-hosted work chat group. And...
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The supervisors, obviously, as soon as I found out about it, I said, anybody who's involved with this is getting fired and getting their security clearance revoked, which there were some who were like, oh, gosh, aren't you? Like, that seems extreme. Like, no. Imagine you're in any office and you're having these kinds of sexually explicit conversations in the workplace.
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And they gave me a very warm welcome, and I laid out who I am, my background, and the mandate that the American people delivered by electing Donald Trump and why I'm here. The purpose that we all are here for, to serve the American people, to ensure their safety, security, and freedom, first and foremost. And let me just tell you this. I got a number of notes.
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I don't care what your sexual orientation or whatever your private choices are, this cannot be happening in the workplace and it must not be happening in our premier intelligence agency that has people who have the highest clearances that anyone can hold. The plot thickens as many of the leaders feigned shock and surprise at this revelation. Well, this chat group had existed for over two years.
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that this kind of stuff was happening in. And again, this is where transparency and accountability matters so much. As soon as I made that announcement that we will be investigating and holding these people accountable, I started hearing from people who were within the workforce saying, I work at the NSA. I filed a written report with evidence of what was going on in these chat groups
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a year ago, two years ago, when this thing first kicked up. And basically, because of President Biden's DEI initiatives, they were essentially told, shut up. It's none of your business. Wow. And then there was the cover-up. And then there was the leak.
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So this is one example of many how we can see what the ramifications have been when we have in the last administration one that is seemingly focused on everything but the most important things.
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I know for certain that it was believed to include national security officials.
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Are we stuck with signals? So the main means of communication for all of us, like in this building, this entire building is a secure facility. That means that if you go outside of this lobby, there's a bunch of lock boxes over there where you've got to lock your phone in, you've got to lock your Apple Watch or your Oura Ring, anything. Oh, even your Oura Ring, wow.
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Anything that transmits a signal gets locked up by everyone who works here and everyone who visits here before you leave this lobby.
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Good luck. Take the stairs.
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Exactly. So the vast majority of the communication that happens is through secure telephones and secure computers and things that are built in to our work environments. However, I do have to leave the building at times, and things have to keep moving and rolling. Same goes for those who work in the White House and those who work across the administration.
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So at times, for practical purposes, you have to be able to communicate on the go. Signal has been recognized by the federal government during the Biden administration, by the way, in December of 2024, as... the preferred messaging app because it provides that end-to-end encryption that makes it... Nothing is completely secure, but it is the most secure option if you need to use it.
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Yeah, I mean, you know, it shouldn't have happened. There are sensitive conversations that occur in these signal chats. But ultimately, it was not at all what those who are opposing the president's policies and those in the media made it out to be. And I can tell you that there are some of the most vocal critics of
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of that whole situation who also use Signal and communicate things that they would not want released publicly as well.
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I told them, let me know what you think is going right. Let me know what you think needs fixing. You can find my email address. You can find my number. And I started to get notes from people, one of which came from a guy who has worked here since its founding. And it really, I'll never forget it because he said, not once has any other director ever come and done anything like this.
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I will never rule out any opportunity to serve my country. I would not have, if we had talked a year ago, the thought would not have crossed my mind that I would be here and that we would be having this conversation. My decisions in my life have always been made around how can I best be of service to God? How can I best be of service to our country? And that is what has led me here.
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I'm grateful for this opportunity, and I will continue to chase those opportunities where I can make the most positive impact and be of service.
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It was such a powerful moment and speech that you delivered because of your history with him.
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He's a very bold leader. And as we see, he's making decisions without care for what the media chirps about him or what his so-called critics may say about him. And he's quite masterful at it, by the way. You know, he's been so effective at connecting with the American people in ways that I think a lot of the politicians or the so-called political pundits here in Washington, D.C.,
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Never really understood and maybe a lot of them still don't. But it really comes from a place of care. His care for the American people. He doesn't need to do this. He didn't need to put himself through all this. He didn't need to put himself in a position where there were two assassination attempts on his life. And the kind of bold change that we're seeing happening now across the government
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It's never happened like this under any other president. So I really respect his boldness and his courage in doing things that sometimes people don't understand or see how it's going to turn out.
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And second, he said, I'm so happy that you're here and the changes that you seek to make. Now I can finally breathe.
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Wow, so a simple gesture of coming and saying, this is who I am, I look forward to working with you to serve our country, to refocus the intelligence community back on its core mission, to get rid of the distractions,
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The weaponization and all of the other noise that has undermined the trust that the American people may have had long ago in the intelligence community, it just speaks to the vacuum of that leadership that unfortunately has existed for so long.
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Yeah. Well, I'm sure there are people who work here and within the Intelligence Committee community who probably don't think or speak very kindly of me either, specifically because, again, through the president's leadership and the mandate of the American people, I know exactly what I need to do here and how deep the rot is within the intelligence community that has to be rooted out here.
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So, yes, bringing about transparency and accountability, shining a light in areas that haven't seen the light in a very long time, if ever, really pushing for the declassification of documents that the president has listed in several of his executive orders, and reminding people here especially in the area of declassification. There's so much protection.
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We've got to hold on to all the secrets instead of really thinking about what is in the best public interest. And so obviously starting with the assassination documents related to President John F. Kennedy, Senator Robert Kennedy, and Martin Luther King Jr.,
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the starting point but there are many other areas where we have to bring about transparency we have in order to achieve accountability and deliver that to the American people reminding people here every single day that The American taxpayers pay for this building. Yeah, there are secrets. Exactly. They keep the lights on.
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They are the ones who are funding your paycheck that's paying for your rent, your mortgage, your ability to feed your family. The American people are who we work for. So any other level of protectionism... Of like, well, we don't want this agency to be embarrassed by what we are going to expose in the truth to the American people.
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It's a wrongheaded mindset and speaks to the huge culture shift, the mindset shift that has to take place here. And this is the bigger thing that we are tackling here and that the president is tackling and we're tackling across the entire federal government.
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I got to say, I'm not someone who has studied these over the years. So I'm probably about where you are. Yeah. There were new pieces of information.
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Yeah. No. Okay. And those who are experts on this, who've studied this for a long time, did not find what they were looking for. So yes, there was new intelligence and information that was declassified that had not ever been seen by the public before. There were new revelations that came through.
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But in both of those cases, and in a few days we're releasing another, I think, 50,000 or 60,000 pages related to Senator Robert F. Kennedy's assassination because we had to go out and hunt and find those files stuck in other warehouses. But whether or not it delivers the quote-unquote smoking gun, The important thing is that the transparency is there.
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So I created kind of a special teams group, the director's initiative group that is focused on investigating COVID. A number of the president's top priorities and the things that the American people really deserve and want to know the truth about. The origins of COVID-19 is one of them. So they are actively working on that. A lot of the work that's been done is on COVID.gov.
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Have you had a chance to look? Oh, Trump changed it. It's quite a transformation of the website.
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Completely reversed. So a lot of what's been found is already there. But the thing that we are working with Jay Bhattacharya, the new NIH director on, with as well as Secretary Kennedy is looking at the gain of function research that in the case of the Wuhan lab as well as many of these other bio labs around the world was actually U.S.
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funded and leads to this dangerous kind of research that in many examples has resulted in either a pandemic or some other major health crisis.
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We are working on that with Jay Bhattacharya and look forward to being able to share that. Hopefully very soon. Okay. That specific link. Correct. Between the gain of function research and what we saw with COVID-19.
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The thing that he denied over and over and over to Senator Rand Paul's questioning.
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Under oath. Under oath, exactly. So is it any wonder that he sought a preemptive pardon for anything during a certain period of time? by President Biden before he left office.
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And the reason why this is so important is not just what happened in the past. It's because this gain-of-function research is happening now. in bio labs around the world. I got attacked, and I think you saw this, we've probably talked about it on your show before, when I warned against US-funded bio labs in Ukraine when the Russia-Ukraine war kicked off for this very reason.
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Who knows what kinds of pathogens are in these labs, and if released, could create another COVID-like pandemic. And for that, I was called a Russian asset, you're trumpeting Putin's talking points, all of this nonsense. simply for speaking the truth and stating facts that, by the way, are still on U.S. Embassy Ukraine's website today about how the U.S. has funded these bio labs in Ukraine.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tulsi Gabbard on Investigating the Leaks, Fighting the Deep State, and Whether She'll Run in 2028 | Ep. 1061
But in order to, my point is, in order to prevent another COVID-like pandemic or another major health incident that could affect us in the world, we have to end this gain-of-function research and provide the evidence that shows exactly why and how it's in our best interest the American people's best interest to bring about an end to it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tulsi Gabbard on Investigating the Leaks, Fighting the Deep State, and Whether She'll Run in 2028 | Ep. 1061
You know, it's a good question, and I don't have a specific answer to it, but I want to point to the contrast of how in some cases they are very unwilling to come to express a view or a certain opinion on something, and in other cases, even if they don't have decisive or conclusive evidence per se, they're very quickly to come to an assumption.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Waltz Out Amid Security Counsel Shakeup, Bombshell HHS Report on Gender Treatments: AM Update 5/2
We are working on that with Jay Bhattacharya and look forward to being able to share that, hopefully very soon.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Waltz Out Amid Security Counsel Shakeup, Bombshell HHS Report on Gender Treatments: AM Update 5/2
The New York Times article was a result of an unfortunate, unauthorized and illegal leak of a very private conversation between the president and his advisers. I won't get into the details, but it was a very robust discussion that really speaks to President Trump's care and thoughtfulness as he makes his decisions.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Waltz Out Amid Security Counsel Shakeup, Bombshell HHS Report on Gender Treatments: AM Update 5/2
Yeah, of course, the pressure's there. The leaks have to end. If the president can't have the confidence
The Megyn Kelly Show
Waltz Out Amid Security Counsel Shakeup, Bombshell HHS Report on Gender Treatments: AM Update 5/2
that he can sit in a room with his closest advisors without it leaking to the public, then that is something that really undermines his being best served with the best possible information, with debate, robust debate around the table, which you look at the team of people he's assembled, he likes that debate because he sees the value in hearing different perspectives so that he can make that best informed decision.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Waltz Out Amid Security Counsel Shakeup, Bombshell HHS Report on Gender Treatments: AM Update 5/2
We are working with Jay Bhattacharya, the new NIH director on, with as well as Secretary Kennedy, is looking at the gain-of-function research that in the case of the Wuhan lab, as well as many of these other bio labs around the world, was actually U.S.-funded and leads to this dangerous kind of research that in many examples, has resulted in either a pandemic or some other major health crisis.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Waltz Out Amid Security Counsel Shakeup, Bombshell HHS Report on Gender Treatments: AM Update 5/2
We are working on that with Jay Bhattacharya.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Waltz Out Amid Security Counsel Shakeup, Bombshell HHS Report on Gender Treatments: AM Update 5/2
The thing that he denied over and over and over to Senator Rand Paul's questioning. That's right, under oath. Under oath, exactly. So is it any wonder that he sought a preemptive pardon for anything during a certain period of time by President Biden before he left office?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Waltz Out Amid Security Counsel Shakeup, Bombshell HHS Report on Gender Treatments: AM Update 5/2
I will never rule out any opportunity to serve my country. I would not have, if we had talked a year ago, the thought would not have crossed my mind that I would be here and that we would be having this conversation. My decisions in my life have always been made around how can I best be of service to God? How can I best be of service to our country? And that... That is what has led me here.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Waltz Out Amid Security Counsel Shakeup, Bombshell HHS Report on Gender Treatments: AM Update 5/2
I'm grateful for this opportunity, and I will continue to chase those opportunities where I can make the most positive impact and be of service.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Comey's Post Targeting Trump, South African Refugees in Spotlight, SCOTUS Fireworks: AM Update 5/16
Any other person with the position of influence that he has, people who take very seriously what a guy of his stature, his experience, and what the propaganda media has built him up to be, I'm very concerned for the president's life. We've already seen assassination attempts. I'm very concerned for his life. And James Comey, in my view, should be held accountable and put behind bars for this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Comey's Post Targeting Trump, South African Refugees in Spotlight, SCOTUS Fireworks: AM Update 5/16
We will continue to monitor the story, reporting the latest on Monday.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump Goes Silent in AM as Disaster Grows
Yes, Ranking Member. My answer yesterday was based on my recollection or the lack thereof on the details that were posted there. I was not, and what was shared today reflects the fact that I was not directly involved with that part of the signal chat and replied at the end reflecting the effects the very brief effects that the National Security Advisor had shared.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump Goes Silent in AM as Disaster Grows
My testimony is I did not recall the exact details of what was included there.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump Goes Silent in AM as Disaster Grows
As the testimony yesterday continued on, there were further questions related to that, where I acknowledged that there was a conversation about weapons. And I don't remember the exact wording that I used, but I did not recall the specific details that were included.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump Goes Silent in AM as Disaster Grows
I was traveling through the Asia Pacific region. I don't recall which country I was in at that time. You don't remember the country? I'd have to go back and look at the schedule.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump Goes Silent in AM as Disaster Grows
That retweet came from my personal account and I would have to go back to look at the substance of the tweet.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump Goes Silent in AM as Disaster Grows
I maintain my First Amendment rights to be able to express my own personal views on different issues. Thank you. I yield back.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Exclusive: Senator Schiff Calls for Trump Admin Resignations
Contact the defense secretary or others after this specific military planning was put out and say, hey, we should be doing this in a skiff. There was no classified material that was shared in that. So there was no classified material.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Exclusive: Senator Schiff Calls for Trump Admin Resignations
So you don't know what staffer is responsible for this right now?
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Rep. Himes on Democrats Going on Offense
That retweet came from my personal account, and I would have to go back to look at the substance of the tweet.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Rep. Himes on Democrats Going on Offense
I maintain my First Amendment rights to be able to express my own personal views on different issues. Thank you. I yield back.
Today, Explained
Vatever you vant, Vladimir
I will not stand quietly by as Hillary Clinton or anyone else tries to smear my character.
Today, Explained
Vatever you vant, Vladimir
You hear President Biden say, well, this is Putin's war. This is Putin's fault. It's Putin who's the one who's solely responsible. Well, the United States and some of these European NATO countries are fueling this war.
Today, Explained
Vatever you vant, Vladimir
Do you think Assad is our enemy? Assad is not the enemy of the United States because Syria does not pose a direct threat to the United States.
Today, Explained
Vatever you vant, Vladimir
I enlisted in the army because of the horrific terrorist attack on September 11th and volunteered to deploy to Iraq in 2005, where I served in a medical unit.
Today, Explained
Vatever you vant, Vladimir
I mean, it was something every day that we all experienced firsthand, the terribly high human cost of war. We have to honor our servicemen and women by only sending them on missions that are worthy of their sacrifice.
Today, Explained
Vatever you vant, Vladimir
Our administration refuses to recognize who our enemy is. And unless and until that happens, then it's impossible to come up with a strategy to defeat that enemy. We have to recognize that this is about radical Islam.
Today, Explained
Vatever you vant, Vladimir
What is happening right now is a very clear consequence of having a commander in chief who doesn't know what he's doing.
Today, Explained
Vatever you vant, Vladimir
I can no longer remain in today's Democratic Party. It's now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness.
Today, Explained
Vatever you vant, Vladimir
I invite you to join me in doing all that we can to save our country and elect President Donald J. Trump and send him back to the White House.
Today, Explained
Vatever you vant, Vladimir
I'm proud to stand here with you today, President Trump, and announce that I'm joining the Republican Party.
Today, Explained
Vatever you vant, Vladimir
Chuck Schumer admitted a few years ago, quote, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.
Up First from NPR
Intel Hearing On Group Chat, Return To Office Mandate, Black Sea Deal
There are about five or six conditions.
Up First from NPR
Intel Hearing On Group Chat, Return To Office Mandate, Black Sea Deal
They will be looking at them, and we're thinking about all of them right now. There are about five or six conditions.
Up First from NPR
Intel Hearing On Group Chat, Return To Office Mandate, Black Sea Deal
We pretty much looked into it. It's pretty simple, to be honest. It's just something that can happen.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Biden Released 100 Potential Terrorist Illegal Aliens in a Single Year plus POTUS & First Lady Support my Take It Down Act
Trump has been in office. Really what you're seeing here today and what you'll continue to see is a unified effort across President Trump's national security team, the Department of Homeland Security, towards our mission, which is to ensure a safe, free, and prosperous society for Americans. As Director of National Intelligence, there are a number of areas where we are focused.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Biden Released 100 Potential Terrorist Illegal Aliens in a Single Year plus POTUS & First Lady Support my Take It Down Act
The president talked about in his speech, over 21 million people have come across our borders illegally under Joe Biden's administration. There are many of them that we don't know who they are. They have not been vetted. We don't know where they are. I'll give you one quick example of one of the problems that we are getting after.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Biden Released 100 Potential Terrorist Illegal Aliens in a Single Year plus POTUS & First Lady Support my Take It Down Act
From Central Asia, there were over 4000 people who came across our borders using an ISIS affiliated network. Our National Counterterrorism Center went through and identified those individuals. There were hundreds of them who were either known terrorists or associated with known terrorists. That information was provided to the Biden administration.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Biden Released 100 Potential Terrorist Illegal Aliens in a Single Year plus POTUS & First Lady Support my Take It Down Act
You may remember in some of the news, a little over 100 of those people were arrested in 2024. Of those who were arrested, only eight were either deported or remained in custody. Only eight. The rest of them were released back into our country. Where are they? What are they doing? What may they be plotting? This is just the beginning.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Biden Released 100 Potential Terrorist Illegal Aliens in a Single Year plus POTUS & First Lady Support my Take It Down Act
There are many, many areas that we need to stay very focused on, working with Department of Homeland Security, working with the FBI to ensure that we're keeping the American people safe. Our Counterterrorism Center is working on making sure that we have that single source for vetting so that we can figure out who is actually in our country and identify those who pose a threat and get them removed.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Biden Released 100 Potential Terrorist Illegal Aliens in a Single Year plus POTUS & First Lady Support my Take It Down Act
The President's designation of the cartels as foreign terrorist organizations falls directly into this, especially as we're seeing some of the tactics that these cartels are using reflect some of the tactics that we've seen used by Islamist terrorists in countries that many of us have served in overseas. Our mission is very clear. Our objective is to keep the American people safe.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Biden Released 100 Potential Terrorist Illegal Aliens in a Single Year plus POTUS & First Lady Support my Take It Down Act
I'm grateful to be a part of this team that President Trump has assembled to accomplish that mission. Thank you.