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Chapter 1: Why is there a debate on women's roles in society?
So I think that there is a reckoning with modern women right now, especially on the right. I think that there's a lot of people in general, if you just go on social media, that don't like women. I'm sure that you see those takes a lot. They genuinely just don't seem to appreciate or even enjoy women in the slightest.
There's a lot of people who can't figure out how women should fit into modern society. You know, are we working? Are we being stay-at-home moms? Should concessions be made for women who are in public office and are in government, do we all want to go frolic in fields and make sourdough and have homesteads, or is that what we should be doing?
There is just a lot of online discourse and debate about all of our lives. And I think that a lot of this was broken open over the past couple of weeks, especially with the Ashley St. Clair and the Patriarchy Hannah drama that unfolded last week. And if you guys missed that, my best friend Amir and I talked about that when he came on the show last week.
But basically, people are wondering if either of these women were genuine in their desire for a more traditional life, because Ashley St. Clair posted one thing online, she said one thing online, and then obviously did another.
She said that she wanted a traditional life, that she just wanted a husband and a couple of kids and a homestead, and then ended up having a child with the richest man in the world and is now A single mother times two, trying to figure that out and literally tweeting at him to get his attention because he's not responding to her lawyers or her.
You have patriarchy Hannah, who literally built a brand off of being this Christian conservative stay-at-home mom of 14 children with her husband Tony, literally shaming women on a daily basis for not being as virtuous or traditional as she was, and then it all ended up being fake. It was all a sham. She had no children whatsoever. She was not married to a man named Tony.
She had no grounds to stand on whatsoever. And then this past weekend, just a couple of days ago, we had Laura Loomer on X attacking housewife Jessica Krause for getting involved in politics, which is just so...
inconsistent to me because I thought we were supposed to celebrate women like Jessica Krause, who stayed at home with their kids, who chose to sacrifice parts of their career to be there for their children. And now, years later, as her children are grown, they are older, they're able to be involved in her work. She has stepped into this fascinating role as this blogger and this journalist.
She's at the White House all the time. I thought that that was something that we could celebrate, but I guess not because she's being belittled and called just a housewife. As another example of this chaos, you have some people
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Chapter 2: What sparked the Ashley St. Clair controversy?
She's not saying that is what you need to have. And also find a man who loves you, wants to have and raise kids with you, and wants to be with you and only you. The only thing stopping you is your decision to settle for less. Megan.
was not calling out normal women just trying to get by in America, women who are totally fine and happy living in their suburban lives, who do not want the swanky New York City apartment, women who are stay-at-home moms that are very happy with that, that that was their dream. This tweet, my friends, this X post, whatever we're calling it now, this was a direct response to Ashley St.
Clair and the whole Elon Musk, baby daddy, baby mama drama that was going on. And it was more of a conversation on not sacrificing your values than anything else, whatever those values might be. And that makes this tweet applicable to anyone. And she explained this context later that day on her show. Just take a listen.
This woman is accusing Elon of impregnating her and not, I guess, negotiating with her on the care of the child, or at least not to the point where she's happy with the negotiation. All I can think as I look at this is. Your life is the way it is because you decided it would be. Because of your choices, madam. You can have a swanky New York apartment.
You could earn money and actually wind up renting one yourself. You could also find a man who wants to marry you and raise children with you. and who won't have other women in his life at the same time. All of this is available to you.
You do not have to make a choice where you try to bang the billionaire to get his baby so that he'll put you up in some lavish New York City apartment and take care of you for the rest of his life and then be shocked, shocked when he doesn't actually want to have a relationship with you. And the only way you can maybe get him to respond to you is via tweet. I'm sorry, but again, you made choices.
They were very bad ones.
I mean, listen, some people don't like Meghan. Meghan did not miss here at all. This was completely factual. I say it all the time. Your life is your fault and that doesn't have to be a negative thing. And right now, Ashley St. Clair is dealing with the consequences of her own actions.
Now she has a beautiful new child and she's trying to protect this child, but there are consequences to her actions. And what Meghan was trying to say is it didn't need to be this way. She had a career. She was very well connected. I'm sure she was around a lot of men.
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