The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
Wed, 9 Apr 2025
Megyn Kelly begins the show by discussing how the Supreme Court is handing Trump some important wins on deportations, what the media is missing from their reporting of the story, what this means for future deportation cases, and more. Then the hosts of the RealClearPolitics podcast Tom Bevan and Carl Cannon join to discuss how the media is spinning deportations as a problem for Trump, what the polls actually show, Kristi Noem cosplaying as an ICE agent in full hair and makeup, her recent history of negative PR, why she's doing great work as DHS Secretary but needs to stop the social media photo-ops, controversies surrounding Trump’s tariffs, why Kevin O’Leary is cheering the tariffs against China, how someone is finally fighting against China’s mistreatment of America, and more. Then Lee Zeldin, Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, joins to discuss how New York is going purple now and in play for Republicans, Andrew Cuomo potentially returning to power as mayor of NYC, why deregulation and helping the coal industry are top priorities for him and the Trump administration, the negative impact of windmills, all the waste and fraud being uncovered inside the EPA, a CNN climate reporter who doesn't understand climate policy, what he's learned since taking over the agency, and more. Bevan & Cannon- https://www.realclearpolitics.com/Zeldin- https://x.com/epaleezeldinGrand Canyon University: https://GCU.eduFYSI: https://FYSI.com/Megyn or call 800-877-4000Firecracker Farm: Visit https://firecracker.FARM & enter code MK at checkout for a special discount!Byrna: Go to https://Byrna.com/MEGYN to save 10%Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow
Chapter 1: What are the Supreme Court's recent decisions affecting Trump?
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Megan Kelly. Welcome to The Megan Kelly Show. President Trump's tariffs are now in effect and the media is seizing the moment to fan the flames of doom and gloom. This is Trump says countries are calling him up and, quote, kissing his ass, trying to make a deal.
Also, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem finds another chance for a bizarre photo op. She's very obsessed with having her flowing locks appear out of her little baseball caps as she tries to appear like a tough guy. holding a gun in a way that's inappropriate and potentially dangerous. I'm over it. I'm really over it.
Could you just please be the DHS secretary and stand by Trump's agenda and stop trying to make it about you and your weird glam shots? Later in the show, we're going to be joined for the first time by Lee Zeldin. I'm actually really looking forward to this. He's administrator of the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency. They're doing a lot right now, man. They're embattled
You know, the left, that's one of their pet causes. And Lee Zeldin is like, he's a tough mofo. He's like, bring it. So it's going to be fun to talk to him. But we're going to start in a minute with the RealClearPolitics crew. I'll bring them on in one sec, but I'm going to start with a legal update for you.
Because one of the cases that we've been discussing at length here on this program is this case involving the Venezuelan gangs and Trump's effort to deport them using the Alien Enemies Act. And we didn't get to this yesterday because we did Maha with Dr. Mark Hyman. Well worth your time if you haven't seen that episode. But I really wanted to talk about what happened at the Supreme Court.
So Trump won. He's allowed to resume the deportations of these suspected gang members. There is a silver lining of sorts for his opponents. They will be getting more due process than they had been. Um, but make no mistake about it. Trump won this battle and it was for really important reasons.
And while I've watched the media coverage over the past two days, I've seen what I think are in some cases dishonest declarations of victory by the left. And in other cases, just probably misinformed. Declarations of victory by the left. I think Trump got virtually everything he wanted. I mean, really, he got everything he wanted in this Supreme Court ruling.
The one point on which the Trump administration, quote, lost or like didn't I don't know, didn't get a sweeping declaration allowing them to proceed unbridled was on a point they had already conceded. in their appellate briefs. And it was whether these detainees have the right to any due process at all.
And the Trump administration's briefs, the DOJ in their briefs had admitted, yes, they do get some due process, but it's about as minimal as one can demand under the law. It's not the full due process you or I would get. Let's say, God forbid, we got arrested and had to defend ourselves in criminal court.
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Chapter 2: How is the media reacting to Trump's deportation policies?
They wanted a full due process style grant that would mirror what you or I would get in a criminal court before these people got labeled Venezuelan gang members and shipped off to El Salvador. And the court has made really clear that's not gonna happen. And you don't have to take my word for it.
The advocate groups for the illegals themselves are making really clear that they're unhappy with this decision. So the media may want to tell you that the Trump administration got slapped for not providing more due process. That's not what happened. They said they deserve a little more due process.
But here's, for example, the reaction from some of the immigrant groups, the representatives who have been speaking out about this. First of all, they point out that the Supreme Court has ruled that due process in immigration cases is not the same as in criminal cases. You get notice and opportunity to be heard, and that's it. You don't get a lawyer, you don't get all this stuff guaranteed to you.
But here's an organization, VERA, V-E-R-A dot org, that says, okay, the Supreme Court affirmed notice and hearing are required, so good, but... They limited it to these small procedural safeguards. And they said these limited procedural safeguards do little to blunt the harm to immigrant communities who will have no meaningful way to defend their rights.
The Supreme Court's affirmation of due process rights in the habeas context is entirely, quote, hollow. So that's where we are. It's interesting to me because even in Sonia Sotomayor's dissent, she tries to overstate what the court has held. Like, well, look, we have to be really clear now. Everybody's getting total due process and we can review any part of the Alien Enemies Act that we want.
I mean, she totally overstates what the majority actually held in its opinion. What they actually held was there's limited review, very limited review under the Alien Enemies Act. And when it comes, it's going to have to come in the context of a habeas proceeding that must be filed in the jurisdiction in which the complaining person is being held. That's it. This is a very good ruling for Trump.
Now, what he has to do is basically give these people notice if they do not say, I want a habeas proceeding. And let's face it, not all these illegals who are getting rounded up are in contact with the ACLU. Then he can ship them out. He actually can ship them right out. But if they demand a habeas proceeding, they they will go to immigration court where they will not be entitled to counsel.
They will probably be representing themselves and they will be up against the government who says Tom Holman type people. This is why I think he's a Venezuelan gang member, immigration court judge. And more than likely, they will be on the next plane to El Salvador. That's how this is gonna go. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's how it's gonna go. They have very low, little due process rights.
That's been the law for a long, long time. And while Trump may have pushed the boundaries of just how little, little means, he's gotten a very, very favorable ruling here. And you can bet there's gonna be a bunch more, there's gonna be many more planes that are gonna be taken off with Venezuelan illegals very soon.
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Chapter 6: What are the latest updates on EPA fraud and waste?
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Megan Kelly. Welcome to The Megan Kelly Show. President Trump's tariffs are now in effect and the media is seizing the moment to fan the flames of doom and gloom. This is Trump says countries are calling him up and, quote, kissing his ass, trying to make a deal.
Also, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem finds another chance for a bizarre photo op. She's very obsessed with having her flowing locks appear out of her little baseball caps as she tries to appear like a tough guy. holding a gun in a way that's inappropriate and potentially dangerous. I'm over it. I'm really over it.
Could you just please be the DHS secretary and stand by Trump's agenda and stop trying to make it about you and your weird glam shots? Later in the show, we're going to be joined for the first time by Lee Zeldin. I'm actually really looking forward to this. He's administrator of the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency. They're doing a lot right now, man. They're embattled
You know, the left, that's one of their pet causes. And Lee Zeldin is like, he's a tough mofo. He's like, bring it. So it's going to be fun to talk to him. But we're going to start in a minute with the RealClearPolitics crew. I'll bring them on in one sec, but I'm going to start with a legal update for you.
Because one of the cases that we've been discussing at length here on this program is this case involving the Venezuelan gangs and Trump's effort to deport them using the Alien Enemies Act. And we didn't get to this yesterday because we did Maha with Dr. Mark Hyman. Well worth your time if you haven't seen that episode. But I really wanted to talk about what happened at the Supreme Court.
So Trump won. He's allowed to resume the deportations of these suspected gang members. There is a silver lining of sorts for his opponents. They will be getting more due process than they had been. Um, but make no mistake about it. Trump won this battle and it was for really important reasons.
And while I've watched the media coverage over the past two days, I've seen what I think are in some cases dishonest declarations of victory by the left. And in other cases, just probably misinformed. Declarations of victory by the left. I think Trump got virtually everything he wanted. I mean, really, he got everything he wanted in this Supreme Court ruling.
The one point on which the Trump administration, quote, lost or like didn't I don't know, didn't get a sweeping declaration allowing them to proceed unbridled was on a point they had already conceded. in their appellate briefs. And it was whether these detainees have the right to any due process at all.
And the Trump administration's briefs, the DOJ in their briefs had admitted, yes, they do get some due process, but it's about as minimal as one can demand under the law. It's not the full due process you or I would get. Let's say, God forbid, we got arrested and had to defend ourselves in criminal court.
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