Tom Homan
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Trump says he’s not defying court orders. A judge says otherwise.
We're not stopping. I don't care what the judges think. I don't care what the left thinks. We're coming.
Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 170
That's exactly the question I posed to the Deputy Attorney General. I asked him to look into it. I said, you know, I know through my career someone steps in front of you and between you and the person you're arresting, they're repeating, yeah, that's a violation. But at what point do you cross the line on saying you're educating people versus you're teaching them how to evade ICE arrest?
Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 170
So I've asked that question to the Department of Justice for clear guidance so I can share that with the officers of ICE. So we're looking for that response. clear direction so we can start taking action on people who want to help educate these people to evade ICE. So hopefully any day now we get that guidance sent out to the field.
Morning Wire
Trump Moves Against Houthis & WEF Investigates Schwab | Afternoon Update | 4.23.25
He's been deported several times. He's a felon. Reentry to the country of diploma deportation is a felony. We will prosecute him and we will deport him. I'll make that commitment. I'll work with Secretary Ngo to make sure that happens.
Morning Wire
Judge Blocks Deportation Effort & Federal Funding Fights | 4.16.25
Right now, as you and I are talking right now, we have the most secure border in the history of this nation, and the data proves it.
Morning Wire
Judge Blocks Deportation Effort & Federal Funding Fights | 4.16.25
Let me ask you, why did you call President Trump a fascist and a deranged racist sociopath in 2020?
Morning Wire
EU, Canada Impose Tariffs & Russia Strikes Ukraine | Afternoon Update | 3.12.25
Someone in the country committed a crime against you and sent you to jail. Why not give access to that person so when you're done with them, we can have them and do our job? Because releasing a public safety threat back in the public is just stupid. Victims and witnesses of crime don't want the bad guy back out there either.
Morning Wire
Trump Secures Border & Pritzker 2028? | 4.29.25
15,000 to 178. Unprecedented success. Under the first 100 days, it was actually January 20th to April 1st, Last year, 184,000 illegal aliens were released into the United States. Under this administration, nine. People always want to say, why are you so emotional when you testify? Why are you so emotional on the network?
Morning Wire
Trump Secures Border & Pritzker 2028? | 4.29.25
Because if they wore my shoes for 40 years, they'd understand why I'm emotional. When you listen to the Lakin Riley, 17 Men, is that young lady fighting for her life? Don't just think, okay, a young woman died. Think of how she died, the terror that she went through. And these children are sexually assaulted. I stood in back with tractor trailer and 19 dead people at my feet that baked to death.
Morning Wire
Trump Secures Border & Pritzker 2028? | 4.29.25
Illegal immigration is not a victimless crime.
Morning Wire
Trump Secures Border & Pritzker 2028? | 4.29.25
I don't know why. It's sick. The amount of child rapists we've arrested under this administration that could have been arrested under the Biden administration. They were out there. They had their final orders. They were out there, but they didn't go look for him.
Morning Wire
Trump Secures Border & Pritzker 2028? | 4.29.25
Today, as I'm standing here, we have the most secure border in the history of this nation.
Morning Wire
Colony Ridge Arrests & Inmate Gets New Trial | Afternoon Update | 2.25.25
The raid of the Colony Ridge development in Texas resulted in the capture of roughly 90 illegal aliens. Border Czar Tom Homan says that criminals and violent child sex offenders were among those arrested in the operation. Homan also referred to the operation as Phase 1, an indication that there could be more raids to come. Here's the Border Czar on Fox News.
Morning Wire
Colony Ridge Arrests & Inmate Gets New Trial | Afternoon Update | 2.25.25
One of the individuals captured yesterday was a member of MS-13 who had been deported from the United States seven different times. He allegedly stabbed and killed a man yesterday before leading authorities on a seven-hour manhunt that resulted in his arrest.
Morning Wire
Trump-Putin Phone Call & COVID Lab Leak Coverup | 3.18.25
We're not stopping. I don't care what the judges think. I don't care what the left thinks. We're coming.
Morning Wire
Biden’s “Politburo” & Homan’s Sanctuary City Plan | 5.22.25
So they're going to get exactly what they don't want. More agents in the community and more collateral risk.
Morning Wire
Biden’s “Politburo” & Homan’s Sanctuary City Plan | 5.22.25
Well, look, we've made a lot of progress on the border, but we want to keep it permanent. We need the money, not just for the border, but interior enforcement operations. Money for the border is going to help continue building the border wall. Every place a border barrier has been built, illegal migrations went down, illegal drug flow went down. So we got to put more border wall up.
Morning Wire
Biden’s “Politburo” & Homan’s Sanctuary City Plan | 5.22.25
And plus, we got technology in the existing border wall that Joe Biden stopped putting in. As far as the interior enforcement operations, ICE needs money. ICE is in the hole right now. They got about 50,000 people in beds. We're funding for 34,000. ICE is already in the hole. So if we want to continue this massive deportation operation, we need more money.
Morning Wire
Biden’s “Politburo” & Homan’s Sanctuary City Plan | 5.22.25
People are asking, they don't think there's enough deportations, not enough ICE arrests. I agree with them. I'm pushing for more arrests. We need money to do it.
Morning Wire
Biden’s “Politburo” & Homan’s Sanctuary City Plan | 5.22.25
Vastly increasing number of teams on the street. More teams will hit the streets. More arrests can be made. We have a bed for them. And more flights, more frequent flights to remove them quickly. Rather than sitting in an ice facility for a month, we'll have flights ready to go. It'll be very expedient, very efficient. So you'll see us hit the ground running day one.
Morning Wire
Biden’s “Politburo” & Homan’s Sanctuary City Plan | 5.22.25
They're going good, but it could be better. Sanctuary cities do, you know, make us less efficient because rather than one agent arresting one bad guy in a jail, We're safe for the community, safe for the agent, safe for the alien. We got to send a whole team in the community to find them.
Morning Wire
Biden’s “Politburo” & Homan’s Sanctuary City Plan | 5.22.25
If you're going to keep releasing public safety threats in the community, we're going to give you exactly what you don't want. We're going to flood the zone. We're going to send more agents in the communities, many more agents, We're going to send many more agents on worksite enforcement operations.
Morning Wire
Biden’s “Politburo” & Homan’s Sanctuary City Plan | 5.22.25
If we can't get him to jail the safe and efficient way, we'll get him in the community or we'll get him at worksites. Don't want to hear anything from Sanctuary City. I don't want to hear a word about us arresting non-criminals. You put us in that position, that's what's going to happen.
Morning Wire
Biden’s “Politburo” & Homan’s Sanctuary City Plan | 5.22.25
There's no downside on a secure border. There's no downside on less trafficking of women and children. There's no downside on less fentanyl. There's no downside on less people on terrorist watch lists coming across. There's no downside on taking billions of dollars away from the cartels. There's no downside on removing public safety threats and national security threats from this country.
Morning Wire
Biden’s “Politburo” & Homan’s Sanctuary City Plan | 5.22.25
we should all be on the same page. So step up, get this done, give us the money we need so we can keep President Trump's promise to American people alive.
Morning Wire
Tariffs Trigger Turmoil & Anti-Trump Protests Erupt | 4.7.25
Well, look, they're protesting an operation up there that was conducted by HSI and Border Patrol, a criminal investigation, a child predator that was arrested. And there was people that were detained for material witness and possible victim statements. So people that are, you know, concerned about the way this operation was conducted.
Morning Wire
Tariffs Trigger Turmoil & Anti-Trump Protests Erupt | 4.7.25
I don't make decisions based on protests and hate mail and rallies, but it's unfortunate that they don't listen to the facts of the case.
Morning Wire
Trump’s ‘Liberation Day’ & ‘Tesla Takedown’ Protests | 3.31.25
I think illegal aliens, most vulnerable, are not going to spend their life savings to hand it to a criminal cartel to come to the United States, knowing we ended catching release. You're not going to be released to the United States. You're going to be deported immediately. And as the secretary said, we got a lot of twos in two box. El Salvador prisons won. We got Gitmo.
Morning Wire
Trump’s ‘Liberation Day’ & ‘Tesla Takedown’ Protests | 3.31.25
For those countries who push back on taking their criminal nationals back, we'll send them to another country.
Morning Wire
Trump Shuffles Pentagon & Cartel Terror Designation | 2.24.25
You have killed more Americans than every terrorist organization in the world combined.
Morning Wire
Trump Shuffles Pentagon & Cartel Terror Designation | 2.24.25
The other thing I said I stated to the RNC, that President Trump is going to designate the criminal cartels of Mexico as a terrorist organization. He's going to wipe you off the face of the earth.
Morning Wire
Trump Shuffles Pentagon & Cartel Terror Designation | 2.24.25
So word out to anybody that assists them, anybody that sells your drugs on the street, anybody that assists these cartels in any way, you are helping a terrorist organization and the weight of the world is coming down on you.
Morning Wire
RFK Jr. Takes on Autism & Fed Fight | 4.21.25
Van Halen never went to the border the last four years on Joe Biden when he had a 600% increase in sex trafficking in women and children. You have a record number of non-inspected terrorists crossing that border. You had a quarter million Americans dying of fat and overdose because of the open border. You had over 4,000 illegal aliens died making that journey, which is a historic record.
Morning Wire
RFK Jr. Takes on Autism & Fed Fight | 4.21.25
I've met with hundreds of angel moms and dads who buried their children that were murdered by an illegal alien. How many angel moms and dads has he met in the state of Maryland?
Morning Wire
RFK Jr. Takes on Autism & Fed Fight | 4.21.25
What bothers me more than that is a U.S. senator traveled to El Salvador on a taxpayer dime to meet with an MS-13 gang member, public safety threat, terrorist.
Morning Wire
Trump’s Record Pace & Federal Media Contracts Cancelled | 2.7.25
The crossings on the border are down 93 percent. 93 percent. Wow. That's a bigger decrease than under the first Trump administration.
Morning Wire
Trump’s Record Pace & Federal Media Contracts Cancelled | 2.7.25
For any mayor or governor who doesn't want public safety threats removed from the communities, I find it hard to believe that. But we're going to do it, with or without them. If they're not going to help, get out of the way. But don't cross that line. Do not impede our operations.
Morning Wire
Trump’s Record Pace & Federal Media Contracts Cancelled | 2.7.25
This is not a game. When we show up at these sites, this is a dangerous job for the men and women of ICE and Border Patrol and all the DOJ agencies. To have that type of interference puts our officers at great risk. Not only the officers, it puts the aliens at great risk because anything can happen when we take our eyes off the goal here. So we're addressing that immediately today.
Morning Wire
Education Department Exposed & NIL Guidance Changes | Afternoon Update | 2.14.25
Getting back on Rikers Island is a game changer. Not only do we get the bad guys before they hit the street, the intelligence of how the TDA operates, where they're operating, all this intelligence together at Rikers Island, we'll have access to.
Morning Wire
Trump’s Reciprocal Tariffs & RFK Sworn In | 2.14.25
She's correct. Some of the information we're receiving tends to lead toward the FBI. But I talked to Deputy Attorney General all this weekend. They've opened up a criminal investigation, and they have promised that not only this person will lose their job and lose their pension, they're going to go to jail. They're going to criminally prosecute. So we're all over it.
Morning Wire
Duke Lacrosse Accuser Retracts & Daniel Penny Army Navy Game | Afternoon Update | 12.13.24
Now that starts on January 21st. And we're going to start right here in Chicago, Illinois. Yeah!
Part Of The Problem
Game Over For The Dems?
I don't care what that judges think. As far as this case, we're going to continue to arrest public safety threats and national security threats. We're going to continue to deport them from the United States. I understand this case is in litigation through the Alien Enemies Act, and we'll abide by the court order as litigated.
Part Of The Problem
Game Over For The Dems?
But my quote was, despite what he thinks, we're going to keep targeting the worst of the worst, which we've been doing since day one, and deporting from the United States.
Part Of The Problem
Game Over For The Dems?
United States through the various laws on the books. We're not making this up. The Alien Enemies Act was actually a federal law. It's a statute enacted by Congress and signed by a president. Now, that's under litigation.
Part Of The Problem
Game Over For The Dems?
But put that aside, we still have Title VIII authority to remove illegal aliens from the United States, and we're going to continue to concentrate on those who are the biggest threat to our communities, the public safety threats.
Part Of The Problem
Game Over For The Dems?
Some were, some weren't. Some have been in custody for a little bit. And some on that plane were Title VIII removals, which means they were orderly removed by the immigration judge. And some other words were removed to the Alien Enemies Act. And I think about 240 on that flight were Benz and Wayland gang members, TDA. And I think we had... 21 MS-13 members and a couple of specific MS-13 cases.
Part Of The Problem
Game Over For The Dems?
But as far as the Venezuelans on that flight, every single one, according to the information given to me from the field, are members of the TDA. And TDA has been determined to be terrorist organizations. They are not classified as terrorists, so that plane removed 240 terrorists from the United States.
Part Of The Problem
Game Over For The Dems?
Look, there's various methods. I've noticed in the media, a lot of them don't have criminal histories. Well, a lot of gang members don't have criminal histories. Just like a lot of terrorists in this world, they're not in any terrorist database, right? We only know the information within databases based on, for instance, most terrorists we arrest that are identified as U.S.
Part Of The Problem
Game Over For The Dems?
government are later identified through a Title III investigation or through an undercover operation. They're not in any terrorist screening database. We know that. A lot of gang members, I started as a cop in 1984. Many gang members don't have a criminal history issue. We have a count on social media. We have a count on surveillance techniques.
Part Of The Problem
Game Over For The Dems?
We have a count on sworn statements from other gang members. We have a count on wiretaps and Title IIIs. Everything involved with criminal investigations come into play. So just because someone hasn't been arrested and charged with a crime yet doesn't mean they're a member of a gang.
Pod Save America
A Lawless Trump and Aimless Dems
I wake up every morning loving my job because I work for the greatest president in the history of my life. We're not stopping. I don't care what the judges think. I don't care what the left thinks. We're coming.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
citizen child does not make you immune from our laws.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
We've got a little more work to do on the border. And, you know, it's still a crisis until we, you know, there are some gotaways we're concerned about. Who are they? Are they people from terrorist-related countries? We don't know. So we've got to drill down some of the things. Northern border needs more work. Maritime needs more work.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But right now we've got the most secure border in the history of the nation right now. So we've got some more work to do. We've got to play the way game more. We need to address the cartels outside this country who traffic people from all over the world. We've got to shut them down. We've got to play the way game. Interior enforcement, we've got a lot of work to do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Personally, I think there's over 20 million illegal aliens in this country. They keep saying 12 million. We've been using 12 million for two decades. I mean, Biden administration alone, we know they released at least six to seven million released. So, you know, I think there's at least 20. We got a lot of work to do here. Again, we're going to concentrate on the worst first.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But just because, let me make this clear, just because we're concentrating on the worst first doesn't mean we ignore everybody else. You know, I may prioritize my family life or my work life. I don't forget about my work life. If you're in the country illegally, you got a problem. You're not off the table. But we're going to do this wise. We're going to do it a smart way.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I show up at airport, everybody wants to be, you know, the director's in, or the border czar's in. Make sure we take care of them. I carry my own bag. I'm happy staying at Hampton Inn. I fly coach. I'm just a small-town kid from Carthage, New York. So never forget where you came from. That's probably the biggest life lesson I've ever learned from my dad.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Once the public safety threats and national security threats, they're the biggest danger out of the community, so of course they have to go first. So we've got more interior enforcement work to do. We need to shut down sanctuary cities. Sanctuary cities should be illegal.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And I think we've got the right people in place now with this administration and Pam Bondi and others that will take sanctuary cities to task, take them to court. We've got to shut down progressive judges who simply are ignoring the law and trying to stop us from doing what we're doing. I think we'll win these cases when they get to higher courts, but it's going to take a long time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Well, we see a completion to the wall that was... We're already rebuilding the wall. Again, the more money we have, the more wall we can do. So again, we need Congress to fund us. The more money we have, the more we can do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
The border has a strategic plan based on the crossings, based on where they think where traffic has historically come and where they're seeing Dow, the fuel coming across. That plan changes all the time, based on intelligence, based on what they're finding out down south. So that changes all the time. But border towards that point, they just don't put a wall up here because it's cheaper.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They don't put a wall up here because somebody wants a wall there. Border Patrol actually has a strategic plan built on intelligence and crossings, information from the smuggling cartels about where their activities are switching to. Then they'll place a wall where it makes the most sense. I don't want to give specifics because that specifically will change next month. Gotcha.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Well, there's places where the wall can't be built, right? Like in the national parks where we need more technology there because you can't build a wall like this. There are some areas where there's natural cliffs. That's where you put anti-drone technology and more technology.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
What the Biden administration did when they stopped building the wall, even some of the wall that was built, they wouldn't even finish the technology inside that wall. Smart technology that allowed agents to communicate, allows agents to run quick record checks. You know, you approach that wall, you dig under that wall, you climb that wall. Well, no. There's a lot of technology in that wall.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They stopped the technology in that wall. There's places on the border agents can't talk to one another. So now we got to finish technology in some of the existing wall, but we're building a more smart wall. Smart walls, it's a wall system. It's just not a wall. A lot of technology in that wall. You got access to that wall. Pathways, agents can respond quickly.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So there's a lot to it, but we're already starting to rebuild it. We're also putting, I think, right, we're already doing 75 miles of buoy barriers in the river, which are very effective. What are those? There are buoys that float in the middle of the Rio Grande and almost impossible to get over. Underneath it, there's a fencing underneath that goes all the way to the soil.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They're a game changer. On Trump 45, we looked at that technology. We liked it. Of course, then the election happened, never happened. But now I think they're putting 75 miles of it and more. And that's right on the water. So people will stop. They see the barrier. Most will not attempt to cross, which means less drowned. A lot of people drown in that river every year.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So when they see that barrier, it saves lives, unless people want to take that barrier on. I mean, a lot of illegal aliens die in that river. People think that river doesn't have a current, you're wrong. Hundreds of people die in that river every year. Not now, for the more secure. Well, the Trump administration, now when you see people drown, they find dead bodies all the time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
My dad, who was a war hero himself, respected that man more than anybody in the world. Your dad was a war hero? World War II, 11th Airborne. Wow.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
People just die crossing the river. A lot of people can't swim.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They're badass. That's what I hear. These guys are good. I mean, I was never in Bortech when I was in Bortech. I wouldn't get enough. These guys are well-trained, great shots, great with a firearm. Now they're into repelling and jumping on an airplane with a parachute. These guys have really increased their training.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They don't operate within Mexico. Well, they do operate on the border and the interior. In my home state, New York, a couple of prisoners escaped from Dannemore State Prison. They looked for them for a long time, couldn't find them. They brought Bortec in there. They found the first guy. Well, they actually shot and killed the first one. The second one was later caught.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
He had a prisoner escape in the jail about two years ago. Couldn't find him, Borto. Bortec's good. They're well-trained and... It all started back in my day. I was a board player in Campo. I worked down in the San Diego area, Tijuana area.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They had what they called the border bandit squad because bandits would work the border and they'd rip people off, head into the United States, take all the money, take their goods, rape women. So you had border bandits that are operating. So you had a border bandit patrol, which was border patrol special operations along with local sheriffs. Took a lot of those border bandits out.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
True story. So a couple of Bronze Stars, Purple Hearts, too. And never knew it. Never knew it until he got really sick. He had to go to assisted living. Found all these medals. He didn't want to talk about them. So I got him put in a shadow box. And when he was doing his will, you know, all these kids, hey, what do you want? What do you want? I just wanted one thing. I wanted the shadow box.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
There was a lot of armed conflicts, a lot of shootings. But BORTAC, I would call it the SWAT team of the border patrol. And they're very, very well trained.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I want the American people to know that, you know, the Trump administration, unlike what the media is pushing, is not inhumane. Everybody in this group is trying to save lives. As I said earlier, a secure border saves lives. We're looking for 300,000 children the Biden administration released to the country to sponsor them on property vetted.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Everybody in this program right now knows what it's like to see children forced sex trafficking or forced labor. I've seen a lot of tragedy in my life. And I'm simply trying to prevent as much of that tragedy as possible and secure border safe lives. I get called a lot of names. I don't care. I don't give a shit what people think about me. I don't.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
As long as my family, my Lord and Savior, think I'm doing the right thing, then I'm good. The hate doesn't mean anything. The protesters, I love them. That means my message is getting out. That means you're over the target. We're saving lives every day. Secure border saves lives. Illegal immigration is not a victim's crime.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
People, you see an illegal alien, you say, okay, we're here making a better life for himself and his family. He's working maybe in a restaurant or something. But you don't understand the whole ugly underbelly, what happens with these criminal cartels, what happens on that border. Illegal immigration is not a victim's crime. The system needs to be fixed.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But until then, we can't allow people to come into this country unvetted. We can't allow the border to be a crime zone for 2,000 miles. You just can't allow that. A lot of bad things happen on that border. A lot of bad things come across that border.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And with the Trump administration, I'm proud to say, again, I'll say it a thousand times a day, the most secure border in the history of the nation today because of the leadership of President Trump and the men and women wearing that uniform.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So I'd like to, you know, I've read all these stories about border patrol ICE agents, you know, for your viewers. If you see a border patrol agent, tell them thank you. Because they're getting vilified every day by the media. ICE agents, they're getting vilified. Death threats are outrageous. Just give them a thank you. Because they really are
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
2 o'clock, 3 o'clock this morning, you're going to be laying in bed, I'm going to be laying in bed, hopefully we'll be sleeping, next to our loved one. At the same time, you've got a border patrol agent standing on a dirt trail in the middle of nowhere because a censure went off.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So if something's coming north on that dirt trail, they don't know if it's an illegal alien looking for a better life or if it's a heavily armed drug smuggler. They don't know if they're going to take it on. I know because I've done it. I've stood on that dirt trail as a border patrol agent, shit in your pants, wondering what's coming. But they're going to stay in there and take it on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They're doing this every night while we sleep, keeping this country safe. Men with ice, they're getting vilified every day in the media. Every time I wake up, I read all these stories about ice agents, how terrible they are. People need to remember the ice agents and border patrol agents, they're mothers and fathers too. They don't hang their heart on a hook when they go to work.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They've seen a lot of bad things happen that they take home to them every day. They take sicknesses home to their families. Whether it's TB, they get TB screenings all the time. They take the sickness. These men in the Border Patrol, they actually bring toys from their families to bring them to children to play with while they're in the facilities. They really do care.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They really do have a great heart. Under the last four years of the Biden administration, the record amount of border patrols that committed suicide was highest ever. At over 40, I believe.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Now, I don't know, whatever internal struggles they were having, giving CPR to babies, talking to little girls being raped, finding dead bodies floating down the river, seeing how these criminal cartels treated these people, certainly weighed on them. to the point they took their own lives. These men and women are heroes, and I hope the American people
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
understands your heroes, recognize them as heroes, and thank them. That's all I ask for. I mean, I'll retire again, hopefully for the last time, but I'll always have the six of these men and women, because I was one of them. I know what it takes. They're the nation's finest. Our military and our first responders are America's finest 1%. I hope people recognize that. True Americans.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Because you never talked about it. And that's what I want. And I got it. It's hanging in my office right now. And one day it was hanging in my office, and I was vice director, and John Kelly, who was the secretary of Homeland Security, came in that day, right away keyed on that shadow box. He goes, they're not yours.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
You want him? You bet. I think President Trump. I think he's, again, people have their opinions. A guy that does what I do, greatest president in my lifetime. Because it's proven success on the border. John Roberts. Get him out of the show and figure him out. All right. Third. I was going to say Cash. We already had him. Stephen Miller. We'll reach out. Stephen Miller has a He has a great mind.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
He's just brilliant. And not just with immigration, trade. I mean, just a smart guy. I think he'd have an interesting conversation. I would love that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Look at what he's doing. Put in a word for me. Look what he's doing right now. Now you need to talk to him. All right.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Former MLB All-Star Sean Casey, a.k.a. the Mayor, keeps hitting it out of the park.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
so he walked up to him he goes i said they're my dad my dad never displayed them my dad never talked about it but i know they're pretty impressive uh to get you know bronze star in world war ii he says yes it was he goes you know these all mean i said no i never so the picture his photographer was with and they took a picture of john kelly's walking through each of these medals i remember the one there's a rifle with a leaf around he goes no that means
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
He said, dad was in gunfire. Didn't hear it from a distance. He was involved. And she walked me through all these things. And he says, do you know how he earned it? I said, no. You still don't know? No, I don't. Wow. I read a few things. And when he came home from the war, there was a parade for him. So they talk about how he's wounded. in New Guinea.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
The second time he got wounded, it was bad enough they sent him home. But John Kelly offered me, he said, look, I'll find out for you. For your permission, I can grab his records. Well, then he came back, said they were destroyed in a fire in Kansas, Kansas City or something. All his records were destroyed. So he couldn't get his hands on them. So my dad never talked about it. Wow.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
There's a couple of things I've been involved in. Probably... created the Tom Holman you see today. People always ask me, I get this question a lot. Why are you always angry? Why are you always mad? Not so much now, but the last four years, right? Because I wake up every day pissed off under the Biden administration, because we handed that administration the most secure border in my lifetime.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I've been doing this since 1984. And they unsecured it on purpose. And I knew when they unsecured it, more people would die. More women and children would be sexually assaulted by the cartels. Not only would more illegal aliens die, but more Americans are going to die from drugs coming across the open border. I just woke up today, can't believe they unsecured the border on purpose for four years.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I'm pissed off. And there was lots of videos of me yelling at members of Congress. I worked for Fox News for the last few years. I lose my temper on Fox News sometimes because of what I've seen through my career. The thing that probably, when I first joined the Border Patrol, I wasn't on Border Patrol a month. And I'm on patrol near Tecate on a back road, on a four-wheel drive, sign cutting.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And I see this guy walking down this dirt road. It was an illegal alien, drunk. He just happened to live in Tecate and somehow got across the line just hanging out. And he's carrying something. How's he carrying it? Was it a baseball bat? What is it? He was carrying a human leg. He was carrying a human leg. A human leg that he found. It was just a bone that he found on his journey, wherever.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So, of course, no. I'm bored with trilogy, so I'll take him to custody. But I remember he was very intoxicated. and called the local sheriff, and they ran the investigation. But I was in a month, and I'm coming from upstate New York, and all of a sudden I get put on the southern border and just see some of the things you saw. It was like it was eye-opening.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
It wasn't rare to find a dead body of an illegal alien that was making a journey and died making that journey because the smugglers don't care. If you get sick, they're not calling 911. Because that alien means nothing to him now. He's not going to get paid to get him to his final destination. They just leave him there to die.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I can't tell you how many aliens we find near death's door making that journey. And we actually were able to get them help and save them. But the thing that really, really affected me was two things. Number one, talking to a little girl about nine years old that was part of a smoking group who was raped multiple times by members of the criminal cartel. Nine years old? Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And let me tell you something, the toughest guy you want to be, when you sit down, you get on your knees, you talk to this little girl and everything innocent, pure, has been ripped from her. Where you can tell that she has no faith in humanity. I mean, this little girl's world was destroyed. She's never going to be the same. I don't care how much counseling she gets, right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And I'm a father, and you think, you know, how could someone do that to such an innocent little girl? And it really changes who you are. I mean, it's just like, you know, I can't believe there's a human being out there that would do that to a little girl. The members of cartels are animals. They don't care about these people. These people are a commodity. And there's been several instances where
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
You know, women and children that I've been involved with through an investigation who are sexist ultimately cartels us, you know, demanded as part of crossing them or either across the desert or over the river or just take it, just rape them for the hell of it. I mean, I've seen rape trees, you know, where these smugglers would just hang panties up in a tree as a trophy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And a nine-year-old girl shook me. Because then you realize just how inhumane these people are. The thing that probably shaped me the most so back in, I think it's 2003, I was in Dallas, Texas, giving a speech to the International Association of Chiefs of Police. We just became ICE less than a year earlier. They took customs and immigration made ICE.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So I was there to explain this new agency and how we can work together and collaborate. I remember getting an emergency phone call from Washington, D.C. John Morton, who was the director at the time, but it was actually his deputy, Adultery called me, and says, hey, you're in Dallas. You need to get down to Victoria, Texas right away.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
There's a tragedy down there, and we want you to go down there and take over the investigation. Because they knew, at the time I was assigned to headquarters, they knew I spent most of my career, as I said, in enemy smuggling and trafficking cases. So they flew me down there in an Air Marine plane, and I landed down at the crime scene.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
When I got there, the sheriff, and I think it was a Texas Ranger, walked me through the crime scene, and said, okay, it's yours. So I remember walking up to the, there's a tractor trailer, and there's 19 people baked to death in back of that tractor trailer. 19 people? Baked to death, died. Baked? Baked. He just... They're in a steel box, tractor trailer.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Steel box, black, no air, in the middle of summer. And so I get up at the crime scene. I walk up to the crime scene right away. There's just a trailer there. The truck's gone. He unhooked it and he left, the driver. So I walk up to the crime scene. And all I have is a suit. I'm wearing a suit because I was giving a speech. I left. I didn't get back to the hotel and get my stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I went straight to the scene. So I get there, and I walk up to this tractor trailer. Right away, I see several bodies on the ground because when those doors finally opened up, the people were in such a rush to get air that they knocked some dead bodies out of the truck onto the ground. So I noticed some dead bodies on the ground there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Then I got to the back of the tractor trailer, and I looked in the back of the tractor trailer. I just see... Bed people. Most of them in their underwear because they were trying to get some relief from the searing heat. And right away, so I looked and I keyed on a little boy. And he was partially covered up by who later found out was his father who was protecting him. And I keyed in on him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And he was wearing the same color underwear that my little boy had. Same underwear. And I had a five-year-old son at the time. So right away, I keyed in on him. So we had this... So I took over the investigation. Just in time, Houston flew in, and the helicopter came to the crime scene. But I was processing the crime scene. We had a guy taking pictures.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And I was telling him to take all these pictures, all they needed. But I told him that we would do the boy last, mainly because I couldn't handle it at the time. So we processed the crime scene. And I testified to this. I got angry and went to a testimony where someone claimed I didn't care about dying children. He should have worn my shoes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I've seen a lot of dying children, dead children in my career. So when we got to the child, I knelt down beside him and I put my hand on him and I said a prayer. Because I knew, based on the years I've done alien smog investigations, what a horrible, horrible death this child went through. He begged to death.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And after crime scene photos, of course, the investigation where I'm there on the ground, they had to fly clothes in. Again, I came with clothes on my back. But through the investigation, we found out the little boy's the first one to die. And the witnesses there that survived said that little boy begged his father not to let him die. Little boy knew he was dying.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Begged his father, please don't let me die. I want to see mom again. I want to see my mommy. And when you hear the testimony from the surviving witnesses, it just tore you up how this child, no five-year-old should have to beg for his life. No five-year-olds would be baking to death in a black box. That got up to 175 degrees, they said. And he was the first one to die.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And his father died on top of him. Because some of the witnesses were saying that some of the members of the group back there talked about tearing the boy apart and putting him out through the... There's brake lights. They busted out trying to get some air. And there's some talk about maybe we... put parts of the boy out there to draw attention to our problem.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
That never got fully vetted, because some witnesses said it didn't happen, but his father did die on top of his child, and it just, you know, hovered him. You think about it, I just don't think about it. They were going to rip this boy apart? That was testimony from a couple of them people, and a couple of people said that wasn't true, but there's a reason.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
The father was over the top of him, like this. We asked why. Anyway, child was the first one to die. Then so many people were starting to die. And there's so many people in back of the tractor trailer, they were dying, standing up and trying to find a place to fall. And like I said, when we got the crime scene, most of them in underwear, trying to get some relief from the heat.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So through that investigation, the first couple of weeks, I'm listening to this testimony and I just don't think about, okay, that child died. I'm thinking about how he died. what his last two hours was like. What was his last hour like? His father couldn't help him. His father put him in that position, begging his father to help him. His father can't.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They're in a steel box, locked in a steel box. No air in there. The air compressor was turned off. And information was, it was turned off because he wanted to draw attention to the truck. Because if the truck's empty, going through a checkpoint, Air conditioning on, that means you got something back there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So there's a lot of testimony from a lot of different witnesses saying a lot of different things. But the way that child died, and I didn't sleep for a week down there. I'm a pretty tough guy, but that affected me. Because I had a five-year-old son at the time, and you started thinking about why is my son lucky and that child wasn't.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Why is my son born in the greatest nation on earth and this child wasn't? And so I've been honest about that. After we put all 14 of those people in jail, anybody involved, they're in prison. And we shut that investigation down pretty quick, put a lot of people in prison. And after the investigation was done, I had to go get help because I couldn't sleep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
just the image of this little boy, how he suffered. And I had a son the same age. That affected me more than anything. Because I realized that didn't have to happen. If we had a secure border, that little child wouldn't have died. And that's why for the last four years, that's one of the reasons I wake up, everybody pissed off. I knew when they opened this border up, More kids are going to die.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
More women and children will get sexually assaulted. More Americans are going to die from fentanyl and other drugs coming across that border. Sex trafficking is going to increase tenfold. So I woke up every day for four years on Biden, pissed off, and I actually did.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I woke up just mad that Joe Biden's the first president in the history of this nation who came into office and unsecured a border on purpose. There wasn't mismanagement. There wasn't incompetence. He knew exactly what he was doing. I wrote an op-ed, foxnews.com, about six months before the election. I said, if Joe Biden becomes president, we lose the border. Just based on what he was saying.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Put a moratorium on deportation. Going to end ICE detention. I'm going to award amnesty. I'm going to award DACA. I'm going to give free health care to illegal aliens. You make that type of promise to the entire world, they're going to come to the greatest nation on earth. So I knew it was going to happen. And I knew every morning I woke up, and for four years, I go out and give speeches.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And I tell people, it'd be 7, 8 o'clock at night, I had a great dinner, banquet, and I'd give them the speech. And I told everybody in the room, great night, isn't it? Let me tell you about the border. Tonight, while we're sitting there eating this meal, women are being raped as part of the feat across that border. And the child's going to die tonight.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
whether at the hands of the cartel or drowned in the river. I've been on the river and watched border patrol agents give CPR to babies. Last year, I made a trip down to Brooks County for a ride along. This was before President Trump was back in office. Where's Brooks County? In Texas. Sheriff Benny Martinez. I sat in his office. He has like six deputies.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
He told me every deputy is doing immigration work 24-7. They're not even deputies. They're out there looking for dead bodies. At the time, he had over 100 dead bodies found in this county of aliens that died and just died. So his troopers, I mean, his deputies were out there every day finding dead bodies. I was with him for four hours. We found two.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Then talked to a doctor down there who told me this story. Now, I didn't see it. I've just told this story. Mother and father and a child, a 22-month-old little girl from an African nation was crossing the border, coming across the river. Smugglers, the animals they are, they bring them across in a boat. Border Patrol starts approaching them. So what do the smugglers do?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They throw their family in the water, can't swim, because they know Border Patrol is going to go rescue this family and they can get away. So They thought they rescued them, but the little girl later died at the hospital. And the doctor shared with me that the little girl to her post-mortem was assaulted in every little opening of her body. As required by one of the six cartel members.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
All these things I see and hear about. That story came to me. I didn't see it, but that story came to me. But it doesn't surprise me because the stuff, the nine-year-old girl I talked about, the tractor trailer, the driver of that tractor trailer knew these people couldn't breathe. They knew there weren't water back there. And what did he do?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
He just unhooked the trailer and left because they were dying. And through testimony, he was calling the smuggler, complaining they were tearing his truck apart because they tore the lights out to try to get air in there. These people are ruthless. So for four years, I wake up pissed off because I knew this stuff was going to fire up again. At a record pace, and it did.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Look at the numbers, like 4,000 aliens have died making their journey on Joe Biden. A quarter million Americans died from fentanyl coming across the open border under Biden. Sex trafficking of women and children skyrocketed. Number of people on the terrorist watch list. Record historic numbers came across that border. They arrested 400 of them. You got 2.2 million gotaways.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
How many of them came from a country sponsoring terror? How many of them were sex trafficking women and children? How many of them were carrying fentanyl? So over four years, I was just waking up every day pissed off. Damn. Did you say 22 months?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
One's too many. Well, it didn't surprise me a bit. It turned your stomach. I mean, this other doctor we've had down there, he has a big old ranch. He finds dead bodies all the time. He found a young female... that was left to her body. Her panties were down on her ankles. Her ankle was broken.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
What he says he's seen before is after his younger got raped, they break her ankle so she can't go seek help. She dies there. He had a picture of a 12-year-old little boy that went over a fence at his property. This little boy obviously didn't make it. He died right there at the fence line. He's kind of crawled up next to the fence.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I mean, I've seen a lot of death, but I've also talked to a lot of people who took pictures of dead bodies on the property. You know, I've done alien smoking investigations for a long time. I've heard so much testimony from people that victimize. I mean, Operation Ice Storm, Phoenix, Arizona. After I finished that... Victoria Operation with 14 alien aliens.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Then they sent me to Phoenix, Arizona to run Operation Ice Storm, where you got smuggling groups ripping each other off. Because when you get a load of 25 people, they're worth a lot of money. So you have alien smuggling groups doing rips on each other. They find out where the load house is. They go armed. They take this group.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
There was a shootout on the highway down there because one group had stolen another group's load of people. Bodies are piling up in Maricopa County. Aliens couldn't pay their smuggling fees. They'd torture them. They'd call relatives up and say, yo, it was $10,000. Well, no, we said it was $5,000. Well, now it's $10,000. Either pay it or we'll kill them. And they would.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Nice. Nice. Where'd you grow up? Small town called West Carthage, New York. Population about 2,500. What were you into growing up? Pardon me? What were you into growing up? Strong Catholic family. I mean, mom, dad, seven kids. Grew up in farm country. There's two things you do in that little town. You either work on a farm or you work at Fort Drum, an army base up by there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Those relatives, they'd call up on the phone. They'd torture the guy where the relative listened.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
One brave lady came. She actually contacted ICE and said they were holding, I think it was her brother. Demanding all this money, I can't afford a pen. They said they're going to kill him. Luckily, we did what we do with phones. They would go to that place, and that guy was hogtied, hands and feet behind him with duct tape.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
His whole head and face were duct tape, except a hole poked in his mouth so he can breathe. That's the way we found him. So these cartels are ruthless. So for four years, I woke up because I knew that this was going to happen every day now. and because this administration chose to open that border up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I get asked that all the time. I think there's some people that just don't believe in borders, they think we should have open borders, but I actually think they saw future political benefit. Obviously.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Because when President Biden signed over 90 executive orders destroying everything that President Trump did in Trump 45, he also overturned the Trump census rule, which means the millions of people they release in the United States, they'll be counted in the next census, most of them in sanctuary cities, which means what?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
When they proportionate seats in the House, it means more seats in the House for the Dems. And also, I think, the future Democratic voters. Because here's the long game they're playing. No one talks about this. Here's the long game they're playing. They're playing the long game. They're smart at it. Overwhelm the system. Let's bring 10.5 million encounters to the border.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Release them without proper vetting because all they care about is the optics. If there's no overcrowding, there's nothing to see. If there's no overcrowding, we can say the border's secure, which they did. Morbital agents were ordered, processed quickly, released quickly. Because if there's no overcrowding, there's nothing to see here. So of course they weren't vetted properly.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Didn't have time to vet them properly. Why did they release millions of people into the United States rather than putting them in an empty ice bed? An ice bed owned by ICE, contracted by ICE, at $127 a night. Why did they not fill that bed
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
but they'd rather release them to an NGO, get put in a hotel room at 500 bucks a night, get three free meals a day, get free medical care, and not only that, they get flown to the city of their choice. They say where they want to go, we flew them there by administration. Put them in a hotel room, 500 bucks a night, give them three meals a day, free medical care.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Why did they do that instead of putting them in the ICE facility at $127 a night? Because they knew exactly what they're doing. They know if they go into ICE detention, they get a hearing within 40 days. Based on real data from the immigration court, nearly 9 out of 10 people who claim asylum will get ordered removed because they don't qualify for asylum. They get removed.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
That's not what they wanted. Overwhelm the system because once you're out of the system, you've got the detained docket. Immigration court prioritizes the detained docket. But once you release them, now they're on the non-detained docket, sitting in a hotel room. Hearing's going to take three, five, seven years, depending on what location you're at.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
If you want to exhaust all your appeals, maybe nine years. They overwhelm the system because they know it's going to take years to get these people through the process. And what happens then? They're hoping for a Democratic administration. Now you can warrant amnesty. They're playing the long game. They overrun the system on purpose. They did not detain them on purpose.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
What the Biden administration did, towards the end, they knew that immigration was a big issue in the election, right? So they tried to claim that border numbers are way down. Where did we fix this problem? It's down 70%. No, it wasn't. They created two programs out of thin air, call them legal pathways. They weren't legal pathways. The border numbers didn't really go down.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They went down maybe 17% if you count all the programs they created. So what they did was, okay, we got millions of people coming across the border illegally. So let's create the CBP1 app. That same illegal alien population can simply go to an app, make an appointment, come to a port of entry. They're going to call that illegal entry now. Same population of the illegal.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They're just bringing them through the port of entry. Oh, this is a legal pathway. Thousands of people come to the port of entry. Then they created the CHNB. Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, Venezuela. If you're from those four countries, we're going to fly you straight into our airports. You don't even have to go to the border. We'll fly you straight into our major airports in the United States.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Or you're a logger, cutting down trees. So it's a small community, very patriotic community. I talk about that a lot. I mean, walking through this village I grew up in, just about everybody had an American flag on their front porch. I talk about it in my book. It's like being in Mayberry. Everybody knew everybody, right? My mom and dad, very strong Catholics.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So they created a CHNV. They created a CBP1 app, bringing thousands of people with what they call legal pathways – So if you add what they did through the CHNV and the CBP-1 Act, plus what the border patrol's still catching, the border numbers didn't go down that much. They lied to the American people. They kept saying the border's secure, look at the numbers down.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
You just created two buckets that you call legal pathways, the border numbers aren't down. So they lied to American people. They lied about the secure border. They lied that it's gonna take congressional action to fix the border. It only took a new president. And so, again, I wake up every day four years pissed off.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I think the first morning I woke up not pissed off was the morning after the election. I was in Florida, down at the event. Mar-a-Lago, when the election came in. And that next morning I woke up and I said, all right, things are about to change. Lives are about to be saved. So that's probably the first day I woke up knowing that things are going to change.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But for four years, I knew, because all my time I spent on that border, I knew what was happening every night. I knew when I laid my head on that pillow every night, a child was going to die. Women are being raped. Cartels are moving record amounts of drugs in this country. Sex trafficking is going to skyrocket, and it did. Every night, I later knew what was happening.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Maybe it's, you know, all the years I spent down there, I take that personal. Because of the tragedies I've seen, I don't want to see stuff ever happen again.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Let me go the first time I worked for President Trump. True story. I was the third in command of ICE, Executive Associate Director for ERO, Enforcement Mobile Operations. And the time I spent there, we removed, I don't know, over a million illegal aliens when I was there in that position for three years. After eight years of Barack Obama, It was Hillary Clinton versus President Trump.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And I think every mother in that village spanked me at one time or another. That's back in the day. The village made who you were. It takes a village to grow a kid. I give a lot of credit to the village I grew up in. And I'm serious. I think every mother in that village gave me a spanking one time or another, but that was okay back then.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I was convinced Hillary was going to win. Convinced. I think most of America was, because she was so far behind the polls. So before the election, I announced my retirement. So I had it. After eight years of Obama, I'm not spending four years with Clinton. I'm not going to do it. So I signed a contract with this company that paid me three times as much as I made for Ice Guy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So I signed a contract to announce my retirement. I gave him 120 days. I will leave in January. right after, you know, inauguration. Well, my retirement party, anyway, back up. So the election happened. So the next morning I wake up, I remember my wife saying, Trump won. Now what are you going to do? Well, I already announced my retirement, I already signed his contract, so I got to go.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I already got these things lined up. So at my retirement party, A lot of people show up. Saddest day of my life, January 2017, because after over three decades doing the job, that was my last day. And when you carry a badge and gun, you do this job for so long, it becomes a big part of who you are.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And I knew that day I was going to leave that building, and I'm a time-honored civilian for the first time in 34 years. So at the end of the retirement ceremony, I was shaking hands with my wife, and I got an emergency phone call. John Kelly, who was assistant, was the secretary of Homeland Security.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So I took the phone call with John Kelly, and he says, Tom, I know this is bad timing, but the president, the president, like you're president, like you're standing around the agency, which is going to be a two-step promotion. I said, sir, it's bad timing. I just retired. He goes, no, you didn't. Paperwork's not on my desk. It hasn't been signed.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So I said, well, sir, all due respect, my family's been through an awful lot. Multiple moves, death threats, protests at my home. I says, I got to talk to my family about this. Plus, I signed a contract with this company. I don't know what my legal obligations are on that. This is a Friday. I said, can I have till Monday? Now, think about this. He goes, certainly.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I remember what he said before I hung up. He goes, let me leave you with this thought, Tom. And I remember this word for it. He goes, Tom, the President of the United States is asking you, a career law enforcement officer, to serve your country a little bit longer. He needs your help, Tom. I'll call you Monday, 0600.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So on the way home, my wife asked me what was the phone call about, and I told her. She looked at me and she goes, hell no, not doing it. We've been through too much. I said, but it's the President of the United States. She said, I don't care. Been through too much. So after a weekend of fighting, Sunday night, we were laying in bed, and she asked, what are you going to do?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I said, what do you think I'm going to do? She goes, you're going to do that, aren't you? I said, of course. President of the United States. She asked me to help. I want to stay. And she, you know, God love her. She said, okay, I'll support you on it. So the next day, he called me up and said, well, say you. I said, let's do it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So the next day I show up at the ICE office to the amazement with hundreds of people who gave me great gifts Friday, thought I was leaving. And the first people I ran into in my office were ethics attorneys who had a list of all the gifts I got. Said, you got to return all these gifts because these are all the employees now again.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I remember they said, there's a $500 gift certificate your wife got. We need that back. I said, look guys, she's already pissed. I said, let me write you a check for the $500. I'm not going to ask for the gifts back. So they took all the gifts back, which is cool. And the next day, I'm on Air Force One, the President. That's the first time I ever met the man. Wow.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They'd just call your mom and say, I had to give Tom a spanking. But very strict family. My dad was a judge, so strict upbringing. But It was a very patriotic little town. We were only about six miles outside of Fort Drum. I grew up in an era where police were highly respected and people loved their country. I mean, literally American flags everywhere. It was a great childhood.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I asked him, what's my marching order? He says, do your job that you haven't been able to do for the last four years. Now he wants you to do it. Go enforce law. So fast forward a second time, I'm actually out to dinner with my wife. And my cell phone was sitting on the table, and we were eating, and all of a sudden the phone goes off. And she called it right away. It's POTUS. Came up, call ID.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
She goes, oh, my God. She goes, what's he want? So I excused myself, went outside, and President Trump, he made it, you know, he asked me to come back. I said, done. Back fast? Done. I woke up four years pissed off. He mentioned, you've been bitching about it for four years. You want to come back and fix it? I said, damn right I do. So I took it, came back and sat down. I said, did you? Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
She goes, good. Because... You've been pissed off every day. If you don't go back, you're going to be pissed off the next four years and then go back and fix it. So, and God bless you. It's a hell of a pay cut, but I wake up every day like a kid in a candy store because I think President Trump's the greatest president of my lifetime.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
As a border guy, an immigration guy, his Trump 45 unprecedented success, the most secure border we've ever had in my lifetime. Now, the number's even better. As we're talking right now, we've got the most secure border in the history of this nation. President Trump did in seven weeks what Joe Biden couldn't and wouldn't do in four years. Wow. And I got a great team I work with every day.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I know you mentioned earlier I got the Man of the Year Award and Border Hero Award, but you need to know I have both of those acceptances. I accept it in the honor of President Trump. He should be the Man of the Year. Because without him, we couldn't be doing what we're doing right now on the border.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And I also took it in honor of the men and women of the Border Patrol and ICE, whose traffic under hit every day to defend that border. Hang out the rest and the worst of the worst. I'm just a guy at the White House coming up with strategies and policies and putting out the way I think things should be done.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
It's the men and women carrying the badge and gun that deserve that award, so I took it in their honor. And President Trump, I mean, again, the game-changer. I worked with a team, you know, Steve Miller, the architect. Steve Miller's probably the most brilliant man I've ever met. Like him, I love him. That guy's smarter than hell. I worked with a team. And look who President Trump brought in.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
You've got a huge bandwidth, and American people need to know what's happening in this country right now. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Because there's all of government on the border. All of government. We got DOD. We got DOJ, right? You got Pete Hexeth. You got Pam Bondi. You got Cash Patel. You got Secretary Noem. You bring that weight onto this issue, and that's why success is the way it is, because you got one hell of a team. That's the dream team.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And interior arrests, you know, we've arrested about three times more criminals in a few months than Joe Biden did in a year, but people always ask me if I'm happy with the numbers. I'm not happy. I'm happy that we got a hell of a lot more than Biden did, but we need to get much more. A lot more.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Because we know there's like 700,000 illegal aliens with criminal convictions or criminal charges walking the streets of this country. We've got to get them. So we've got a lot more work to do. Doing good, but it's not good enough yet.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Borough of Joe people under Joe Biden arrested people from 180 different countries. That's almost every country in the world. The whole world came to this country because they knew you could cross the border, get released within 24 hours, get a free plane ride to the city of your choice, get a free hotel room, three meals a day, free medical care. Actually, I think it was 181 different countries.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
It spooks me sometimes. I had such a great childhood, I'm afraid that I could not give my children the same childhood I had, where you wake up Saturday morning, ride your bike around the village, gathering up buddies to have a baseball game, and you play baseball all day. But the mill whistle goes off at noon, you knew you had to go home at lunch. Go back, play ball.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Are the cartels facilitating all of this? Oh, absolutely. Criminal cartels like the, you know, at least go cartels and new generations. Some of these cartels are in 45 countries around the world. They're in 45 countries? Some of these criminal cartels, absolutely. So, you know, like the Chinese. Record number of Chinese came across.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
There's no way tens of thousands of Chinese nationals left China and got to the United States without the coordination of a Chinese government. It doesn't happen. Chinese organized crime. Same with Venezuela. But once you get to Mexico, the criminal cartels, they had operational control of the southern border.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
No one's crossing the southern border of the United States without paying the criminal cartels or plaza fees at a minimum. Because you go to their area of operation, you either pay their fees or they'll kill you. So they had operational control of the southern border. As a matter of fact, under Biden, I talked to numerous Border Patrol chiefs who would tell you
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
that we no longer have operational control of the southern border, the criminal cartels do. They decide what's coming across, when it's coming across, where it's coming across. I talked to one chief patrol agent who used to turn me broken arrow. I said, dude, that's pretty, that's over the top. He goes, no, listen, I may be catching 10% what's coming across that border. He goes, I am overwhelmed.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Groups are coming across every day that I can't go. The 2.2 million gotaways under Joe Biden 2.2 million known gotaways.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
These are people captured on video, drone traffic, central traffic, or through foot traffic that Border Patrol counted that they couldn't respond to because they're too busy changing diapers, making baby formula, making hospital runs, making airport runs, dealing with that humanitarian crisis. 2.2 that we know about. Now, there's areas of the border like Big Bend sector, very mountainous region.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
You can... 500 people go to that area a day, you wouldn't even know about it because we didn't have the technology there. But 2.2 million people crossed the southern border, weren't apprehended because the border patrol is so busy dealing with this humanitarian crisis. Who are they? And I mentioned earlier, they arrested 400 people on the no-fly list, a terrorist watch list came across the border.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
You and I both know terrorists are trained to evade law enforcement. So who are these 2.2? Why did 2.2 million people pay more to get away? Because we already talked about it. You pay two amounts of money to the cartel. You pay one amount of money to get to the border. You see a green uniform, turn yourself in, claim asylum. The cartel's job ends at the border.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But if you want to get away, if you want to get to New York without being processed or vetted or fingerprinted, you pay a lot more. So why did 2.2 million people pay more not to get a free airline ticket, not to get a free hotel room, not to get free meals, not to get free medical care, and not to get work authorization?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Why did 2.2 million people pay more not to take advantage of that giveaway program? Because they didn't want to be vetted. They didn't want to be fingerprinted. That scares the hell out of me. It scares the hell out of everybody.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Then at 5 o'clock, the mill whistle goes off again. It means you got to go home and have dinner. But it was a great childhood.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Cartels, they got... their tentacles reach into many major nations. It's like in Mexico, you know, Chinese, they deal with Chinese organized crime who has connections to criminal cartels in Mexico or Central America. There's so many routes. Some routes come through Canada. Not many, but there are a few that come through Canada.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Most come through the southern border because you got over 2,000 border there, you know, you just can't control it all. Some come up through the Darien Gap. Some fly into Mexico City at the airport. A lot of Chinese fly straight into Mexico. It depends where you're coming from and what cartel you're dealing with. There's so many different routes. Colombia. I mean, there's South America.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Some make a maritime trip to South America and come up through the Darien Gap. Some fly straight into Mexico. It's just there's just so many routes, and that's one of the toughest jobs about securing a border. It's better almost to play the away game, attack the cartels down south rather than to get to the border, and we've done that very well.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I mean, Darien Gap, thousands of people crossed the Darien Gap. The Biden administration said they're going to shut it down. They never did. Is it shutting down now? It's not shutting down, but the traffic's going south.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
That's why I saw the cartels in Mexico the last few years. There's a battle going on in Mexico. Cartels are fighting one another because they made record amounts of money, not only drug smuggling, but trafficking of women and children for forced labor or sex trafficking, smuggling of aliens. they're making more money than ever made. So cartels are fighting each other for control of the plaza.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Who owns this plaza trying to, because there's so much money being made. And that's one of the things, you know, I said from the beginning that President Trump will end up wiping the cartels off the face of the earth.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And that's why I think he designated terrorist organizations because they've killed more Americans than every terrorist organization in the world combined through the drugs and what the cartels have done. So now that we've designated terrorist organizations and now that we've shut down the pipeline at a 96% rate, We're hitting them where it hurts, in the pocketbook.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I think, I hope I'm wrong, but I think you don't see the violence escalating on the border because they're not going to go away. They're going to try to get their product through. And now we've got DOD on the border along with Border Patrol agents. I feel it's a matter of time before there's an armed encounter of some kind.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Well, some sex trafficking is, a lot of it, you know, you pay your smuggling fee, you owe the smuggling group, let's say you owe them $10,000. You don't have the money? Okay, well, you work for us and you get Northbound. There's various ways to do it. This is one of the ways. You get Northbound, okay, here's what you're going to do, pay us back. Or you're not going to do it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
There's seven of us. Seven of you guys? I got one brother and five sisters. Damn, very strong. The thing is, my... Well, I'm proud about my family. It's just about everybody wanting to put, you know, some sort of public service, right? My brother, career fireman, just retired a couple years ago. All my sisters but one were a nurse. So, you know, they all...
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Okay, well, we know where your family is, we'll kill your family. We'll kill you. So a lot more force in the sex slavery. Of course, children are just sold into it. They don't have a choice. Here in the States? Absolutely. Absolutely. What does that look like? ICE has already found children working on ranches and in factories, in forced labor. I mean... We're attacking trafficking really hard.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
The sad thing is that we're one of the biggest customers of it in the United States. Either sex trafficking or forced labor trafficking. And some of the forced labor trafficking, they're never going to pay the fee off. When I was head of the office in Dallas, Some of the Asian massage parlors that we investigated, their passports were being kept from these women. They couldn't leave.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They were locked in a facility, forced into prostitution, and pay off smuggling fees, which they'll never pay off. So a lot of the trafficking, forced labor and sex trafficking, the alien doesn't even know what they're getting into until they get here. They're forced into it to pay off the cartels. And like I say, these cartels are ruthless. They know where your family is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They'll threaten your family. One of the most despicable things about losing control of the borders is the trafficking issue. Under Joe Biden, it's estimated half a million children were trafficked in this country, smuggled in this country. that they release the so-called sponsors. Sometimes it's family, many times it's not.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Again, go back, the secretary of HHS, Becerra, I saw him give a speech on stage, how quick they're releasing these people. We're releasing these people quickly. Of course you are, because all you care is about the optics and no recording, not a problem here. But they released them so quickly, proper vetting wasn't done.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So you heard the media reports of like 300,000 children that the Biden administration couldn't account for. They called them for check-ins, weren't there. When they tried to contact them, couldn't contact them. So Trump administration, we are actively looking to try to find these kids. We already found some, but already found some in forced labor. And... But it's difficult.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
When President Trump hired me, he says, I want you to secure the border, run a deportation operation, and find these kids. Border's pretty secure right now. Most secure we ever had. Numbers are doing pretty good on deportation, but again, I got to do more, a lot more. The kids are the toughest part.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Because you're trying to find children, and it's difficult to find children because you and I, we have a footprint. We have a digital footprint. You own a home, you own a car, you got pay bills, you got a credit card. We can find you. We can find me. Kids don't have that digital footprint. So we got to count on a digital footprint, whatever sponsor they release them to.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And through the whistleblowers, HHS, many sponsors weren't fingerprinted. Identification wasn't verified. They didn't do DNA testing. So now we got to try to find kids. who releases sponsors that don't wanna be found. Some of these sponsors have already sold the kid off to somebody else. So this is the most, out of three things, three rails that I'm involved in, this is the most difficult one.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
You gotta be part of the inner circle, but a lot of it's through the dark web, a lot of it's through the internet. I mean, not only for trafficking, you get a job driving a load of aliens from the border on the internet. They're using apps to do that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
felt a duty to go back and serve the communities in one way or the other. My dad, you know, he ended as a judge, but he was a cop before then. My grandfather was a cop, so I always knew I was going to be some sort of cop. That's what I wanted forever. So I've lived my dream. I mean, I was fishing with my brother last year, and he looked at me and made a comment.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Whether it's Instagram or many of these during the Biden administration, they're hiring college kids and high school kids to drive loads through an app, social media. Social media is a big tool used in all of this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Many times. We've done investigations where, you know, illegal alien population sometimes are the customers, but a lot of it's Americans. And it's sad that this country is a customer for that type of activity. Yeah. I remember when I was 20 years ago, I was teaching a human trafficking course at the FBI Academy over in...
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Budapest, teaching Eastern European countries how to look at human trafficking. So I'm giving this course and one of the members in the audience, a border guard, because there's like several languages being spoken. We had interpreters in there. He raised his hand and asked me a question. It's a true story.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
He says, you ever think about the ride you had? This was before Trump won the election. I was coming back. I said, what do you mean? He goes, you went from West Carthage to the West Wing. That's how I arrived. And it was. It shows what a great country this is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I mean, the television community has one number. Again, I go back to over two million gotaways under Joe Biden. Two million people crossed the border and weren't vetted, weren't fingerprinted. And like I said earlier, criminal cartels in Mexico control the border. You don't cross the border without paying them off or working through them. So... Why did two million people pay more to get away?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
By administration, they're getting more than 13 a day some days. So, you know, on top of the old, you know, terrorist organizations, but now, you know, as you know, President Trump just declared MS-13 and TDA turned to Iowa, Venezuela, terrorist organizations. And I pushed for the criminal cartels to be designated terrorists.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Again, it wasn't my decision, but I've been talking about this for years. President Trump did it. I think it's the right thing to do. A lot of people say, well, how do you consider them terrorists? MS-13 and turned to Iowa and the criminal cartels in Mexico? Because they've killed more Americans than any terrorist organization I know.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Not only that, you know, these cartels in Mexico, they've killed thousands of journalists, prosecutors, judges. I mean, they run Mexico. Anybody thinks anything different, you're wrong. The criminal cartels in Mexico control that country. They did have operational control of their board, and we took it away from them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I mean, I'm not a terrorism expert, but I read enough intelligence reports. We know they're here. I said for a long time, it doesn't matter when, I think it's if. That's my opinion. I think a lot of people agree with me. Two million gotaways. We arrested 400 trying to get in. No one's going to convince me that not a single one of those two men got away. He didn't come here to do us harm.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
We were already, I mean, we were already shut down. It was an aide from Tajikistan not too long ago that were planning an inside attack. Luckily, the intelligence community got some chatter on that. We were able to shut it down. We got a lot of unanswered questions from the Biden administration. How about the two that entered through Quantico Marine Base? That has never been
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Kindergarten? I always knew. In this small town I grew up in, we had a police department. And next to the west car, it's just called Carthage, bigger town, police department. And my dad, you know, I remember my dad coming home wearing the uniform, and I knew he was out there protecting people.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
fully opened up to the American people what exactly that was. Don't hear anything about it. I'm looking into it now. But do I think there's terrorists that crossed during the Biden administration that's in this country right now? Absolutely. I'd be a fool to say I didn't think so. Do you know how they're setting up at all? I do not. Within the country? I do not know.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I can just tell you, when it comes to Chinese, record amounts of Chinese nationalists across the border. I've been around since 1984. These numbers exploded under Biden. And I know there's no way tens of thousands of Chinese nationals came from China to the United States. No way they came around. The cooperation of the Chinese government, Chinese organized crime just don't happen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I think we all can agree to that. And what scares me more is why are they here? That scares me. We know they're already setting up places outside of military bases. We're going to have the spy balloon. Corporate espionage. And the vast majority, it wasn't like family groups coming across. Most of them were military-age males, which, again, is a real serious national security incident.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Why are they here? I think, you know, it's being investigated. We're looking into it and hopefully we'll get some, you know, I'm sure things are being done in the intelligence community that I'm not involved in right now, but deep national security concern. I've said it many times. This open border was probably the biggest national security vulnerability this nation's ever seen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Because we don't know who came across over to Maine, that known gotaways. And we're not even talking about the unknown gotaways. Places like Big Bend Sector where we don't have technology. How many people cross there that we don't know about? How many people came maritime that got away? How many people came through Canada?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Because our resources on Canada under Joe Biden, we have very few resources on the Canadian border anyways, right? But... Half of the Border Patrol agents on the Canadian border were detailed to the southern border to deal with that mess. And the half that remained on the Canadian border, most of them were sitting at a computer processing southern border apprehensions virtually.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So there's practically no Lake Patrol, River Patrol, Road Patrol on the northern border. So God help what came through the Canadian border we don't know about.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Then when he became a judge, when I was still a child, middle of the night, state troopers knocking at the door, bringing somebody in to get arraigned in the middle of the night. I was surrounded by cops all the time. So I knew I was going to be a police officer.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And then we have the- We have record number Russian, citizen of Russia, Turkey.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
You know, a lot of these countries are special interest countries. We had a record number of people from those countries coming across, not to mention the gangs. You know, Trenton, Iowa, and MS-13. A lot of gang members come through. You know, I remember during the Obama administration where these family groups were coming across.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
We knew that some of the members of these families weren't families, they were actually gang members. The administration took no action on it. I can tell you, when the president dropped 45, his first four years, we did Operation Matador up in Long Island, New York. We arrested just short of 500 gang members. Most of them was 13.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
When you dig into the files, you know that 42% of them enter the country as a family member or UAC. So they'll infiltrate, they'll come in as a stage family member, they're not. They'll come in as UAC, because UACs are up to 17. Which UAC? On a couple of alien childs. The children come across, but the vast majority of UACs are 14 to 17. A lot of these are gang members posing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They could be 19, 20 posing at a 17-year-old. That happened a lot. Now, it's not happening because the border shut down, but when we went and did this operation, 42% of these entered as a child of a family group, supposed family group that weren't, or UAC, unaccompanied alien child. They weren't a child at all. They were an adult, posed as a child.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But under Trump 45, we attacked it because we did DNA testing to make sure that family was actually a family. Biden administration stopped that. And that's why I think you saw a skyrocketing. Once they dropped, once they didn't vet the entire family, do the two sponsors and the owner of Trump, we'd vet the entire family, just not the sponsor. Anybody that lived in a household, we'd vet.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
When Biden came in, shut those rules down, no more vetting of the people in the household, no more DNA testing. Child spawning skyrockets. We don't know who a child with a parent or not with a parent. And that's why we got 300,000 missing ones now. So they relax the rules. Again, process quick, release quick. Less rules, faster the process goes. All they care about is the optics.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And I did become a police officer straight out of college before I joined the Border Patrol, but I knew, I had no doubt in my mind, there's one thing I wanted to do, and that's be a law enforcement officer. Why did you... Where'd you become a police officer? West Carthage. West Carthage. You stayed at home. Just like my dad and grandfather, we served the local community.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And I guarantee there's children right now in this country by the thousands who wake up every day living a life of hell. because you're living with a sponsor that's abusing them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
MS-13. They usually blended with another group. Sometimes you got solely Chinese come across as a group, but many times we're blended. The scariest thing about these countries, though, these unfriendly countries, in my opinion, is when Secretary Mayorkas sits there and says these people we released were vetted. They weren't vetted. You can call it vetting, but we know the vetting was... A joke.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
You think the Chinese government is going to give us national security information or any information on these nationals coming across? No. Russia, Turkey, Syria. You think any of these countries are going to share it? No, of course not. And as far as coming to criminal data, we don't have access to other countries' criminal data.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
You think El Salvador and Honduras and Guatemala, I don't even know if they have an NCIC database like we got. They weren't properly vetted. When they stood out and said these people were vetted, what it usually meant was they were vetted through NCIC and Triple I, state systems here. So unless they had a criminal history here, you know, that was the most vetting that was done.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Some of them vet through terrorist screening database, but you and I both know most terrorists in this world aren't in any database.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Unless they were part of a T3 investigation or encountered on a battlefield or You know, there's a lot of terrorists in this world. They're not in any database. So when they say they vetted these people, they vetted them through a weak system.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And that proves what the vetting was, right? They said they vetted all the Afghani states they brought over here. DODIG, Inspector General, said they weren't properly vetted. So this administration lied about all the vetting procedures. How about the tunnels? Tunnels are big in California. We're starting to see some now in Arizona. We got some pretty good tunnel technology.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But the more we find, the more they dig. But this administration upping, we got a lot of really smart companies cutting us. Companies are coming to the table with tunnel technology. Some are pretty sophisticated. How do those work? Oh, they're simple. They'll dig the tunnel down in Mexico and it comes up usually now inside of a building. less attention.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They'll come up outside of a like a corporate plaza, they'll come up inside of a warehouse or building. There's some, I don't want to discuss the technology, I don't want to show our hand, but there's a lot of latest technology to help us find those tunnels. But we're finding many. But there's some we, you know, again, as we shut down a tunnel, none of it was being dug.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Again, the local community, I grew up. They raised me, right? Matter of fact, when I became the ICE director under President Trump, I remember I was in the office first day, my public affairs officer, Barbara Gonzalez walks in, first day on the job, said, okay, you got ABC, NBC, you got Fox News, you got Washington, Washington Post, you got New York Times.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So it's a cat and mouse game on the tunnels. We shut down a lot of them. Some are very sophisticated. They're lighted and air conditioned. You know, you can take carts through there. Some you got to crawl through. We just, they're using the, you know, The drainage pipes in El Paso, they'll just go through a city drainage area. They use some of that sometimes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But we got that pretty much under control. But tunnel digging is increasing just because the border's locked down. So again, the cartels aren't going to go away. They're going to think of another reason, another method to get in the United States. That's why maritime, we're seeing a maritime increase now. A lot more taken to, you know,
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
to the Pacific or the Atlantic, through the Caribbean or over to San Diego. Some are taking bongo boats as far as north as Laguna Niguel. President Trump's got Navy ships out there patrolling now. We got increased Coast Guard patrols, and Border Patrol's also got maritimes increasing. So we adapt. As the cartels move their method of operation, we adapt pretty quickly.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Quite a few. We've got quite a few MS-13 TDA leadership. FBI's taken, as you know, some significant terrorist leaders out. But when it comes to what I'm doing on immigration enforcement, we have taken out a major command and control of TDA and MS-13. But I won't be happy until every single one of them has been removed from this country. But we've hurt TDA. TDA's on the run.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
There's still some areas we need to attack. Problem is they got a foothold in sanctuary cities. Sanctuary cities is hard because local law enforcement cannot work with us because of sanctuary city laws. So it's kind of like a cat and mouse game over there too. I mean, New York City, You know, TDA and MS-13 both have a huge presence there. We just did an operation with NYPD a month ago.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I think three weeks ago, I was over doing press counts. We indicted 27 members of TDA. Huge public safety win. New York City became that much safer. But they're a sanctuary city. Well, I think we showed during that operation, if they'd work with us, look at the great impact we'll have on public safety. And now, you know, you got the city council over there suing the mayor for working with us.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
The mayor wants to get us back into Rikers Island to arrest a bad guy. And it's the right thing to do. Let us arrest a public safety threat in the safety and security of a jail. Because you release them, it puts the community at risk, puts our officer at risk, and now we got to go find him on his turf where he has access to who knows what weapons, right? Mm-hmm.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So even though we show great success, what we can do together in New York City, right away, the city council sues, trying to prevent that type of cooperation. It's ridiculous. Sanctuary cities under Biden exploded. They did nothing about it. President Trump's taking action. Pam, Bonnie's starting to file lawsuits against sanctuary cities. I'm working with Secretary Nome.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
She's trying to schedule all these first day interviews. I looked at her, says, Watertown Daily Times, and WWNY TV. She looked at me and says, what are these? I said, I'm a hometown newspaper, hometown television station. She looked at me, she goes, Mr. Trump, with all due respect, you got nationally syndicated. I said, I don't care. My hometown gets first. They raise me. I owe them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
We're adding more resources to sanctuary cities because that's where the problem is. They're annoyingly releasing public safety threats back in the community. You know, I got attacked by the left for making a speech at one speech where I was going to go to Boston and bring hell with me. So how dare he threaten Boston? I wasn't threatening Boston.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I was threatening the criminal illegal aliens in Boston that raped children. Before I gave that speech, I was looking through a list of people we've arrested over the past few months. I stopped at nine illegal aliens that raped children. And they'd rather release them back to the street than call us once they get out of jail. So he's damn right I said I was going to bring it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I'll bring out every illegal alien that commits a crime against a child over there. And we did. I went over there. I think in a matter of two days, we arrested several child predators, arrested numerous TDA members. Chicago, same thing. Chicago mayor said I wasn't welcome in Chicago. Chicago's the first place I went after inauguration because I was told I wasn't welcome there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
It was the first place I went. And the first day we were there, we arrested two illegal aliens that had a murder conviction, arrested TDA members, arrested child sex predators. One day in Chicago, that city was that much safer. where they still refuse to work with us. So I've said Sanctuary City is going to get exactly what they don't want.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
More agents in the communities and more collateral arrests. Because right now the media's beating us up. Oh, you say you're going to concentrate on public safety threats, national security threats. But a lot of the people you're arresting aren't criminals. Okay, where are they being arrested? They're being arrested in Sanctuary City. Why? Because you forced me into the community.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
If you let me in the jail, one agent can arrest one bad guy. in the safety and security of a jail. But you'd rather release that public safety threat back in the public, which puts the public at harm, puts the agent at harm, puts the alien at harm, because anything can happen on a street arrest. Let me in the jail.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But when you force me in the community, we're going to go to the community and we're going to find that person. And when we find him, he's probably with others. Others may not be a criminal target, but in the country illegally. ICE is going to do the job and arrest that collateral.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Well, my definition of sanctuary city, they don't give us access to jail. They don't honor detainers. So they would rather release illegal alien public safety to our back end community. Here's the justification. Well, we're a welcoming community.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
We're a sanctuary city because we want victims and witnesses of crime, if they're in the country lately, victims and witnesses of crime to feel comfortable coming and reporting that crime without fear that we're working with ICE. Because that's bullshit. We all know that. We don't want to talk to the victim or witness. We want to talk to the guy that you locked in a jail cell.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
That's who we want to talk to. And I'm sure the victim and witness of a crime don't want the bad guy back out there either. to take revenge on the victim witness of crime. Give us the bad guy. Because I think if you went to the immigrant community and asked them one question, would you rather have ICE operating in the jail or your community? They're going to say the jail.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Because the immigrant community, even the illegal immigrant community, even though they're in the country illegally, many of them, once they get here, are pretty law-abiding. They're family people. They care about their families still. They don't want a predator in their neighborhood either. They don't want someone arrested for DUI 10 times in their neighborhood either. So let us in the jail.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
You're the one that locked the guy in the jail cell, apparently because he's a public safety threat. Why are you locking him up? Give us that access to that person. When you're done with him, give him to us. So stop telling the story that your sanctuary city can try and protect the victims and witnesses of the crime to come forward.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
The only reason they're going to be afraid is because of the message that lets us sending out that we're out there tearing up families and raiding neighborhoods. We don't raid neighborhoods. We don't sweep neighborhoods. Everybody we arrest is a target enforcement operation. When we go out on the streets, we know exactly who we're looking for. We're most likely we will find them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They get the first interview. So the next day, we got in a plane, flew to Watertown, which is the biggest town where I grew up. I did Watertown Daily Times. I did WWNY TV.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
We have the full immigration history, full criminal history. Many times we know who's in the house, if there's children in the house. These officers spend a lot of time planning these operations. It's not a sweep. We don't go to a neighborhood looking for people different than us. It's targeted enforcement operation.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But the left keeps lying to the American people, saying we're sweeping neighborhoods, we're tearing families apart, we're out there, you know, just, you know, racial profiling. It's ridiculous. So this is very intel-driven. Absolutely. If every person will go arrest, there's a few job sheets done on them. That's to be signed up by a supervisor.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Now the left's out there saying, well, now we're raiding schools and churches and hospitals because we did away with the sensitive location policy. We did away with the sensitive location policy of the companies. Number one, we're the only law enforcement agency that had such a policy. FBI don't have that policy. DEA don't have that policy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
ATF, none of these federal agencies have a policy where you can't arrest somebody on a school grounds or a hospital or someplace else. And why did we do away with that? Because there is no sanctuary under President Trump. There is no sanctuary for criminal aliens, public safety threats, or national security threats in this country.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
It doesn't mean we're going to raid a school, but if we have an MS-13 gang member that's a senior at this high school over here, and we've been looking for him, we can't find him, but all of a sudden we know that he's attending class here right now, significant public safety threat, we're going to go arrest that guy with the assistance of the local authorities.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
It doesn't mean we're sweeping the school. It means we're taking one bad guy out. And more than likely, we're going to wait for him to leave class. But the left takes it, oh, they're going to sweep schools, they're going to sweep hospitals, they're going to sweep churches. It's ridiculous.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But if there's a national security threat attending mass right now that we've been looking for, we know he's right now in a mass, we're going to arrest him. There's no sanctuary for public safety threats or national security threats in this country under President Trump. So that's why. But again, the media takes that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So when I'm reading stories about, you know, teachers, you know, elementary school teachers, you know, teaching their children to other school board members and other teachers how to defy ICE, they show up for your school. It's just a vilification. And we knew it was coming, the vilification of ICE, vilification of Trump, vilification of me, which I don't care.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I mean, I really don't care what people think about me. Because I know I'm doing the right thing. So you can hate on me all you want. Matter of fact, I get disappointed when I go to an event that's not protestors. I'm a little disappointed. I actually like protestors. But the media is not being factual with American people. And that's very, very irritating.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They did. But I really love... My hometown where I grew up, matter of fact, I recently bought a lake house up there. I'm gonna retire there someday. I was born there, I was raised there, went to college there, was a police officer there. I'm gonna die there someday.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
It's an insult because they're hiding the truth. The media just a couple weeks ago said, we're deporting less people than Joe Biden. Yeah. Why? Because the border's shut down. The border's secure. A lot of Biden removals, they're counting ICE removals and border patrol removals together. You have millions of people coming across every year, right? And they did remove a certain percentage of them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
We could remove 100% of the people we encounter, and Joe Biden can remove 5% of the people he encounters, he's still going to beat us. The border was unsecure. You had 10.5 million people come across the border in 10 years. But if you look at ICE arrests, their true deportation number, ICE arrests, were killing them on ICE deportation. But they won't say that. They fudge the numbers on purpose.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
It looks like we're doing less, and we're not. ICE is arresting and deporting a lot more people. Under Joe Biden, you had 10.5 million people come to the border. Historic numbers every year, four years. Every year is a historic number. He kept breaking his own record every year. Same time you have historic illegal immigration on the southern border.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
ICE under Biden had the lowest numbers of removals, arrests, that they arrested, not Borchow. Lowest number of arrests and removals by ICE in the history of the agency. At the same time, you had unprecedented crossing on the border. We've turned that around. We've got the most secure border in the history of this country right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
ICE has arrested about three times more criminals than Biden ever thought arrested. I mean, I remember... you look at the numbers right now sean an average day on joe biden 1800 got away so you and i talked about every day 1800 the other day we had 38 1800 a day we had 38 the other day you look at the numbers or apprehensions a day 10, 12,000 under Biden many, many times.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
A few times he got to 15. But let's just take 10, 12,000 because there were a lot of those days.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
41 too many. I'll be happy with zero. 1,841. The number that impressed me the most is those they released into the country. So the first hundred days under Trump, nine people were released from the border under Trump. Four of them were material witnesses. We wanted them here to testify in a serious criminal case. Four were extreme medical conditions.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
We had to take them to a hospital or they're going to die. You know, extreme medical conditions. we just can't deport somebody in a bad way like they just can't do it. Talk about being inhumane. And one was a discretionary release for humanitarian reasons. So out of those nine releases, one was really discretionary. Nine total.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Same timeframe under Biden, 100 days, 184,000 people were released into the United States. That's what President Trump has done for this border. Again, most secure border in the history of this nation today.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Well, I said from day one, the sanctuary cities and the governors, the mayors, and If you want to support sanctuary cities, if that's what you want to do, then go ahead. Just don't get in our way. I would think every governor, every mayor, any city council person, their number one responsibility is protection of their communities.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I've already been clear, and President Trump's been clear from day one, we're prioritizing public safety threats and national security threats. They should be shoulder to shoulder with us on this. But their hatred for Trump, their support of sanctuary cities and the politics, putting politics over public safety means more to them. I wish they loved their communities more than they hate Trump.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I was with a couple police officers fishing up on the St. Lawrence River. River that divides Canada and the United States. Great fishing. We were at Alexandria Bay fishing. Now, I saw Boar Patrol around. Didn't quite know what they did. But while we're fishing, we come in the boat, we're at the dock having a few beers. The Boar Patrol boat come pulling in. We just started talking.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Because we can make a difference. But I've said from day one, you cannot support us. You can protest us. But if you cross the line, we'll seek prosecution. If you cross the line of impeding us, That's a felony. If you annoyingly harbor and conceal an illegal alien from us, that's a felony. If you interfere, we won't seek prosecution. And it's already happened to one judge, two judges.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
What were they doing? A mayor was arrested just this past few days. Newark. In Newark, because he was trespassing. We're not going to tolerate it. We got Pam Bondi. Powerful Attorney General right there. We got Kash Patel. I mean, we're simply not going to deal with it. You can not support us. You can call us all the names you want, protest all you want, but
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Don't cross that line because we're going to enforce the law. President Trump was elected by the American people overwhelmingly because of his stance on the border, securing the border, and run this deportation operation. That is what we're going to do. We're going to keep President Trump's promise to the American people that vote him in office for this reason. We're going to do it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So you can stand aside and watch, but don't get in our way and don't cross the line. But it's sanctuary cities. We need more people. So what I've said, sanctuary cities, we're going to flood the zone. How many sanctuary cities are there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Well, you better not. Harboring and concealing illegal aliens is a felony. Eight United States, United States Code 1324. You know, my career, I've arrested U.S. citizens for harboring an alien in the workplace or their homes. Why are politicians any different? They shouldn't. We're going to force the law against anybody across that line.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But what sanctuary cities are going to get, we're going to flood the zone. If one agent can't arrest a bad guy in the jail, then I've got to send a whole team to usually five or six guys to go arrest this person, five or six agents to arrest this person because who knows what weapons he has access to, arrest him at his turf.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So if I can't arrest him in the jail, safety and security of the jail, which is safe for everybody, then I got to send a whole team to the neighborhood. If we can't arrest him at home, then we'll arrest him at a place of employment. So we're going to flood the zone with agents and communities. We're going to increase worksite enforcement operations tenfold. We're going to get them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So Sanctuary City is going to get what they don't want. More agents in your communities, more collateral arrests. Because when we find a bad guy, like I said before, we're going to arrest anybody we find while we're looking for that guy. If we find an illegal alien and exercise that operation, they're going to go too.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Because under the last administration, they told ICE, immigration officers who took an oath to enforce immigration law, Mayorkas told ICE, you can't arrest somebody for being here illegally. They have to be arrested for a serious crime, convicted of a serious crime before you can take action. They rewrote immigration law. Well, no, the statute is clear.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
We told ICE agents, you will uphold the oath you took. You will enforce the laws you took an oath to enforce. So if you find an illegal alien while you're looking for that bad guy, take him into custody. So again, sanctuary cities, everybody said, why are there so many cloud arrests? Because you forced me in the neighborhood. So we're going to flood the zone.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Let me tell you something. The last four years, I've made a dozen trips to the border. I was a Border Patrol agent. So I go down there, I just see what's going on. Most of the agents recognize me, and they talk freely with me. They're admissible. They considered themselves Uber drivers, tourist agents. They weren't enforcing the law.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They were simply finding people they arrested, people across the border. I wouldn't say arrest them. They took them, they detained them, they processed them, and took them to an airport or bus station, or hand them over to NGO who took them to an airport or bus station. They were arresting people who broke our laws, entered the country illegally, and sending them around their way.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Children, they send them to ORR, and ORR would deliver them, the children, to the very people, many times, that arranged to have them smuggled to the United States. That's a felony. And by the administration, we're delivering these children to the same people who paid to have them smuggled here. Now, we're addressing that right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
You know, pretty soon he knew we were all cops. And, you know, of course, he's wearing a uniform. He's bored. We started talking about our job, his job. And his job sounded really interesting. And he looked at me and says, we're giving the test in four weeks. War Town Post Office. Y'all go on there and take it. So I did. Six months later, I get a phone call. Go for an interview.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
We want to hold people accountable, but that's what was occurring. So the morale was in the toilet. Border Patrol agents were quitting, retiring early. Recruiting, it couldn't get recruiting done at all. ICE, same thing. Last month, under the board of directors, the highest recruiting numbers ever in the history of the agency because people want to be a part of this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
People want to be a part about securing the nation, protecting that southern border. The recruiting numbers are through the roof. Morale is at an all-time high.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
When that video came out, I was sitting in my living room. Now, I was a Border Patrol agent. I know there was some engagement. I saw that video. I think, okay. They did perfectly. They performed perfectly. The horses performed perfectly. Just like the horses in New York City that do crowd control. The horses, they're trained very well.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And these officers on those horses are masters at what they do. I watched that and I thought, these guys did a great job. The only people that did anything wrong in that video were the Haitian illegal aliens who entered the country illegally, which is a crime, by the way, and ignored commands from a federal officer, which is a crime. But no one talked about the Haitians violating the law that day.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They talked about agents whipping black people. You had the President of the United States stand at the White House podium and slander these men. You had the Secretary of Homeland Security slander these men from the White House podium. And to this day, they've never been apologized to. I said from day one, once the investigation cleared them, they didn't whip anybody. Was there any apologies? No.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And these men's families were bullied in churches and schools. Their careers would never be the same. Now they've got a record. And even after the investigation said they didn't whip anybody, they were trying to come up with some charges. Oh, you used a bad word or you were too aggressive. Because they didn't want to embarrass the president. They had to come up with something.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But the union got some good legal support fee agents, but it was a travesty. Can you imagine being a GS-12 Border Patrol agent and going home that night from work when the president of the United States compared you to racists? Man. I mean, these men and women put their lives on the line for this country every day. In my career, I buried Border Patrol agents. I buried ICE agents.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
The saddest thing I've ever had to do is hand a folded flag to a child or a surviving spouse. They tarnished the memory of every agent that made the ultimate sacrifice that day. These men on horseback did a fabulous job and never received an apology after throwing under the bus from the White House podium. Now, President Trump,
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
He's like me, he loves boards, he loves ice, he has her six, doing what we can to support him. But letting them do their job is the best morale booster you could ever do. I just told you a few minutes ago, I wake up every day like a kid in a candy shop, because we get to do the job that I dealt with for four decades and can fix with the mess that Biden made. You think my morale's high?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
You don't see the morale of the men and women actually making the difference. The ones that are carrying the badge and gun down there, their morale's at an all-time high.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So my dream was, there's a Border Patrol station there on Wellesley Island, right in the St. Lawrence River, in the shipping channel, beautiful place. Well, if I get into the Border Patrol, I can come back up here and work in that Wellesley Island and be a Border Patrol agent right where I grew up. So I got in the Border Patrol.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
The morale is all-time high. They're doing their job. President Trump gives them full support, enforced laws, and they're doing it. As a matter of fact, prosecutions right now on the southern border are all-time high. They're just not arresting illegal immigrants. They're prosecuting people. They're prosecuting people for illegal entry.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They're prosecuting people for a felony re-entry after a deportation. They're prosecuting people for entering an army installation. There are prosecutions of smoking a skyrocket. Now we're stepping up prosecutions on the interior. You know, you got a lot of politicians out there, a lot of NGOs who say they're educating illegal aliens to their constitutional rights.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I think that's the site. You cannot hinder your own removal. If you have an order removed from a federal judge and you try to hinder that removal, that is a crime. We're going to start prosecuting you for it. So now we'll put you in jail. Prosecute puts you out, then we deport you. We're not playing games anymore.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So we're out there, like I say, sanctuary is hitting them hard, and we're going to hit them harder. We're going to keep coming. The media and these leftist politicians and these activist judges, to this day, I've never seen the activist judges I see right now. When you have a district court judge, district court judge, when he has a district judge,
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
putting in nationwide injunctions across the entire nation what we can and can't do. Every time we make progress, another judge says you can't do it. We're in so much litigation right now. It's incredible. You know, they all want, well, there's a legal process, there's a due process, but there was no legal process. They ignored the legal process and due process when they entered illegally.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They didn't use the legal process then, but all of a sudden now that we're deporting people, where's the legal process? Where's the due process? It's just, the amount of lawsuits they've already filed against the administration, it's just more than the last 10 years combined. It's just incredible. the amount of lawsuits we're facing right now, we'll win them, but it slows us down.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And that's what their whole intention, slows down. Because we don't want to ruin their long-term plans, who these people may be someday. Well, you know, true to Democratic voters. I mean, I've never seen anything like this in my career.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But after a few years on the Southwest border, there's so much action. You know, you eat it up. And I knew the northern border was pretty much vacation paradise. I just didn't, I never applied to go back up north because it was just, there was a lot of action on the southern border. Saw a lot of terrible things, but also was very rewarding. Saved a lot of lives.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Well, President Trump made it clear we're going to go for public safety threats, national security threats first. And that's what we've been doing. But again, the collateral numbers are increasing because of sanctuary cities, but it's a hard job.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I can't tell you everything we do to find these people, because law enforcement's sensitive, but like I said earlier, a lot of people have a footprint that makes it run away, but there's a lot of smart technology out there to help us find people. But Sanctuary City's a heart. Because these people are actually in custody at one point. We know who they are.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Because here's what people don't understand. If you get arrested tonight, you're going to get fingerprinted. And those fingerprints go to NCIC. Check for your criminal history. Well, they also bounce against DHS databases. So we know for a fact, John Ryan just got arrested. He's sitting in Smith County Jail right now. That was a long time ago. So then we get bumped back.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
If we have an immigration record, hey, this guy who has a warrant of deportation or this guy we deported before is sitting in this jail right now. So we should detain her. Say, hey, we want that guy when you're done with him. So we know where they're at. But when Sanctuary City's released them, now they're in the community, now we've got to go find them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So it's very hard work, but there's a lot of smart technology out there right now to help us find these people. But it's not 100%. I mean, many times, you know, we go out and they move, they change their name and, you know, it's a lot of hard work. But I guess my point is, when people see us out there, we're not sweeping anything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
We spend a lot of time and effort looking at these people and building a file on these people. So we increase the chance that we actually find this guy and arrest him. It's not a simple process. It's a long, drawn-out process, but it'd be so much more efficient if you just give us the bad guy in the jail. That would save thousands and thousands of hours of investigative work.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
It makes communities safer. Releasing a public safety threat back into the public when you don't have to, it's just stupid. It just defies common sense.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
1984. This is when I joined the Border Patrol.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
If you locked them in the jail cell, why not give them to us when you're done with them? And you got sheriffs out there, well, we can't under-detain them. We can't hold them for 48 hours on your word because there's some legal precedent that can't be done. If we don't hold them for 40 hours, why don't you call us before you release them? We'll be there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
You don't have to hold them a minute past you would normally hold them. Just let us know when you release them. We'll be there. It's about public safety. And I've called sheriffs out who refuse to cooperate with us. I think they forgot what it's like being a law enforcement officer and became a politician. It's just, Mayor Adams, you know, I beat Mayor Adams up for three years.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Well, he was a career cop that became a mayor and forgot what it's like to be a cop. And his cops were being beat up by illegal aliens and he still wasn't assisting with ICE. Then I went up and met with him a few times, you know, through the election process and after the election. And for the first time, I sat down, I saw the cop come out of him, and he said, you know what, you're right.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Public safety threats, we should be shoulder to shoulder. I need to get you to Rikers Island, so you arrest a bad guy in Rikers Island rather than him being released back to the streets of New York. So he got him to the table, he's doing the right thing, and the city council sues him for working with me, for working with us. It's just incredible.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Right now, the nationwide interior enforcement operation, President Trump has a hollow government approach, first time ever. It's amazing. We got ICE, which is HSI and the IRO enforcement removal operations. We got the DEA. We got the FBI. We got ATF. We got U.S. Marshals. We got the State Department. I think the Postal Inspectors are coming on. But for sure, it's all the DOJ agencies.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I mean, San Diego Sector, 1500 night just come through San Diego Sector. They used to gather up on the soccer fields just east of Tijuana. Hundreds and hundreds would gather. Then when the sun went down, they just ran north. I mean, it's actually like a movie. You just grab what you could.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And what's great about it, We arrest an illegal alien target, and he has dope. DEA's right there. You can prosecute him before we deport him. If, you know, he got a gun, get ATF right there. Prosecute him. Illegal alien possession of firearm, 922G, felony. Prosecute him. Then we deport him. It's great. Plus, they have their own intelligence, right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
DEA has numerous investigations that involve foreign nationals. So they're sharing intelligence with us. FBI, same thing, numerous investigations of foreign nationals. All of our intelligence, our databases collide with one. We all go out there working, and it's been amazing. President Trump's a game changer, putting DOD on the border with us.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Pete Hicks has said it best, that we spent decades defending other nations' borders, now we're defending ours.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Well, first of all, let me tell you my thoughts after doing this for four years. My opinion is most people who don't hire an illegal alien are the goodness of their heart. They hire them because they work them harder, pay them less, and undercut their competition who have just said it's employees. I'll give you one example. I put a new roof on my house several years ago.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I had to call five different companies, five or six, I think five, until I got a company to guarantee me a legal workforce. We had a lot of people come and give me bids. One guy showed up, it was him and his son. They were hoping they could just do a repair and not do the whole roof. I said, I need the whole roof.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
He told me he had 20 US citizen employees that he put on the roof at 15, 20 bucks an hour. But he couldn't win a bid. Because the other companies aren't illegal aliens putting them on the roof for five, seven dollars an hour. Ridiculous wages. He couldn't win a bid. So what did he do? He laid off 20 citizen employees and him and his son were just doing repairs.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I was in camp on a smaller station, but as a GS-5 Border Patrol agent, I tried to get all the overtime I could get. So I'd go down and work the overtime on the weekends or whatever days I had off to work the soccer field or work the checkpoints. illegal grace was, there's very few border patrol agents, so you're overwhelmed every night down there. Damn. How long did you do that? Four years.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
That happens a thousand times across this country every day. Because you undercut your competition as you're a citizen and illegal employment drives down wages. That's proven. So with that, I can tell you that it will have an impact on some industries, especially now that we're doing worksite enforcement operations. Biden administration shut down worksite enforcement operations.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
At the same time, we had the biggest human trafficking crisis in the history of this nation. Where do we find most victims of trafficking? Workforce operations. And like I said, where do we find a lot of bad guys if we can't arrest them in the jail? At their job. We can't arrest them at home, arrest them at jobs. We're doing worksite enforcement operations.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But there's some industries that really rely on them. I think President Trump made it clear just a few weeks ago that farm workers, he wants to increase the program that allows more people to come to this country to work on farms, this H-2A, H-2B program. Congress needs to make a fix.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
What needs to happen is Department of Labor needs to ascertain if there's truly a need for that employment, to make sure there's not U.S. citizens willing to take those jobs. So Congress has a role here. I think President Trump's looking at that sector to try to provide help. So it's a common sense approach.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And that's why I think he's concentrated on public safety threats, national security threats first, while they work out some of these other plans. But under Trump 45, he put an immigration plan on the table. that based immigration in this country based on merit, what they can bring to this country as far as work. Also, but he still kept moms, dads, sons, and daughters in there and family.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
It was a great plan. I was involved and looked at it. Parts I weren't involved, I looked at. What happened? Congress didn't bring it up. Why? Because the plan required money for a wall. He had a fix for DACA. Got shut down by Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. Why? Because there's money for the wall. So President Trump, again, is putting things on the table. I think it would be very beneficial.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
If there's a need for that employment, then we should have those employees, but it has to go through a process to make sure we're not displacing your citizen employees. A lot of high-tech jobs are going to... outside companies from foreign nations. Trying to tell me there's not enough U.S. citizen employees to take those high-tech jobs. We could pay in jobs. There just needs to be a process.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But Trump, President Trump started the other day talking about farm work. We need to really pay attention on farms. because there is a need for more employment on farms, but they need to go through the legal process. And there is a legal process. It could be improved. But there is a legal process, H-2A program. You can bring farm workers in on a seasonal basis.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They come and, for instance, pick crops during the season, then go back home when they're done with the season. So there's some more work to do on that. But that's why I think President Trump is concentrating on the criminals right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Of course. Congress can fix a lot of things. Just like I told you earlier, there's three laws they could fix right now that will solve 85% of the border problem. That way, every administration that comes in doesn't have to undo what the other one did. What are those laws? Trafficking Victims Act, as we talked about. The asylum rules. And the Flores Center Agreement.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Let us detain families in a residential center. Those three rules alone. Well, Congress can't seem to get anything done. I mean, funding right now. I mean, we're doing great work. But with more money, we could do more. I mentioned 700,000 illegal aliens with some sort of criminal history, either convicted or pending criminal charges. With more money, we could put more teams out there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Everybody we arrest to deport, we need a bed for. We need more beds. So Congress needs to fund what I call a mandate for the American people that put him in office to do. Congress needs to fund us. It's the same old budgeting process, right? Under Trump 45, Trump tried to do the right thing the first two years he had the House and Senate.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
A lot of things couldn't get done because there's some Republicans on the Hill and never Trumpers didn't want to do the right thing. So I don't have a lot of faith in him. I'm hoping they've learned a lesson now that we have the House and Senate. Right now, we've got two years to make a difference because who knows what's going to happen in two years? You never count on anything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But Congress needs to step up. A lot of these problems could be solved by Congress. But until then, President Trump has stepped up. Again, the game changer. He's issued a series of executive orders that gave us the most secure border in the history of this nation right now. That's given us more criminal arrests in the interior than Biden ever did. So we're doing really good.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But with more money, we can do more and do it quicker. Congress has a lot of things they could address.
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#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
like a police department to get you uniformed division on patrol you got the specialists more the investigators so you investigate you know conspiracies you investigate alien smuggling and drug smuggling and you know in trafficking um illicit trafficking of people and goods so i left the uniform division the uniform division became a criminal investigator special agent
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
The controversy is during his immigration proceedings, he had an order from a judge that he couldn't be removed to El Salvador because... he showed a fear of his safety from a gang that was in El Salvador. He had an order withholding. However, he had two orders of deportation. Now people say it was a mistake.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I'd call it maybe an oversight because even though there's withholding order in there, the facts of that withholding order, the facts that justified the withholding order have changed. For instance, that gang he was afraid of no longer exists in El Salvador. Oh, that's interesting.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Second thing, because President Bukele, like him or love him, that's one of the safest nations in the region right now. What he did, he obliterated MS-13 in his nation. The second thing that changed, the fact that changed, is now he's a designated terrorist because he's a verified member of MS-13. So things changed since the removal. Number one, now he's a designated terrorist.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And two, the fear he has no longer exists. So, and here's what's going to, here's what, the best that could ever happen for him. Let's say he came back. He's going to be immediately detained and deported again. Because there's deportation. He'd been already deported by two different judges. They said he didn't have due process. He'd been already removed by two different judges.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
He said there's due process. So the way I see it, he's home. He's a citizen of El Salvador. He is home. And Bukele can do what he wants. I won't get in the weeds because it's under litigation, but I think we removed the public safety threat, human trafficker, wife beater, designated terrorist from this country. This country is safer because he's no longer here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And we'll let the DOJ continue to litigate it, but President Trump, again, committed to removing the worst of the worst, and that's what we did.
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#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
verified by numerous sources. Not only ICE, but by a police agency, gang unit. Judge recognized it. Even El Salvadorian recognized him as a MS-13 member. So, you know, plus now troops coming out, right? Video of him trafficking, smuggling, wife filing protection orders because he's, you know, assaulting her. It's unfortunate. Senator Van Hollen and others flew down there to cuddle with him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
At the same time, he had U.S. citizen parents in his state of Maryland who buried their children because their children were murdered and raped a TDA member, MS-13 member, I would think a U.S. citizen would be more concerned with his U.S. citizen constituency who buried their children more than a designated terrorist, public safety threat, white beater, illegal alien.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But that's where we're at today. We're putting politics over public safety, politics over common sense. Mary News reports how we're deporting U.S. citizen children. We can't legally deport any U.S. citizen. What happened in those cases? They said we deported U.S. citizen children. No, we didn't. The parent was already deported. The parent has a decision to make. Do I take my child with me?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So I went from Campo, California. It was a small station. When I got to Campo as a border liaison, I think I was like number 34. Now it's got 300 people there. So I went from there and I became a special agent in Phoenix, Arizona in 1988. What kind of stuff were you investigating? Mostly immigration related, anti-smuggling. I spent most of my time anti-smuggling unit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Do I leave him here with a spouse or another relative? That's parenting 101. The mother chose to take her child with her. Her choice. If we didn't do it, Then the story would be we're separating families. You can't win. You go back to this day, they still, you know, they refer to me as the godfather of family separation, right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Because when I was ICE director, we did zero tolerance where families were separated. And let me explain why we did that. Numbers were increasing. Families. So we said, all right, let's start prosecuting the parent who brings her child through this dangerous journey prosecute them for illegal entry, which is a crime. Maybe we prosecute them and put them in jail.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They'll stop sneaking in the country through the cartels and put their children in harm's way. Maybe it would decrease the amount of rapes we see down there. Maybe less children would die. So we decided to do zero tolerance. Zero tolerance was done to save lives, decrease sexual assaults, As a cop, law enforcement use zero tolerance across this country all the time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
July 4th weekend, zero tolerance in DUI. Zero tolerance in prostitution in the city. Law enforcement use zero tolerance, but let's try zero tolerance. Maybe we save some lives. Maybe let's women get raped. However, when you prosecute that parent, they're going to be separated from the child. A child can't go to jail with a parent. Now, that happens to U.S.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
citizens' families across this country every day thousands of times. When I was a cop in New York, I separated families. I arrested a father for DUI. I had a child in the car. Guess what? The father went to jail, and many times the child would go to CPS if it wasn't somebody to take care of him. Domestic violence, I separated that family when I was a cop.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Father went to jail, separated from his kids. U.S. citizen families get separated every day by law enforcement. It's sad. It's unfortunate, but necessary. So when we did zero tolerance, the whole focus of zero tolerance in my mind was less rapes, less people dying, less children put in harm's way. And it worked. Zero tolerance, border crossings dropped.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So Homan's erasers is cruel because he separated families. That's why we did it. Now you've got 500,000 children who are smuggling to this country away from their families, put in the hands of criminal cartels. Now that's a family separation right there. If I left my kid in the car for a half hour, went and got groceries, I'd be arrested.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
If I left my dog in my car during summertime, I'd get arrested. But 500,000 children were put in the hands of criminal cartels, separated from their families. No one talks about that. They still want to talk about zero tolerance, but no one talks about these half a million kids. 300,000 they can't find.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They don't want to talk about that. They want to keep talking about Trump's zero tolerance for, I think, 25,000 to 3,000 separations. They don't want to talk about the hundreds of angel moms and dads that I personally met and talked to who buried their children because their children were raped and murdered by a cartel or just simply killed by an illegal alien that shouldn't be in this country.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
That's a separation because they buried their children. Their children are six foot under. No one wants to talk about that. The left keeps talking about zero tolerance and how inhumane the Trump policies were, but they ignore half a million kids, 300,000 missing, and U.S. citizen parents who buried their children Like the case of Lake and Riley. I can say her name on 100 cases like that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So we're investigating criminal cartels who smuggle people and smuggle drugs. So I spent most of my career doing that. But you do immigration fraud. People are selling fraudulent green cards and birth certificates and worksite enforcement. Worksite enforcement came around in 1986, 87. Did a lot of worksite enforcement. You went to companies, large factories.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They don't want to talk about that. And this Senator Van Hollen goes down there to protect the MS-13 gamer while a mother of five was beat, raped, and murdered in his state. Did he ever go meet with her? Politics over public safety, politics over common sense. Again, I'll say it. They need to love this country. They need to love their communities more than they hate President Trump.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
It just don't make sense. As a kid that grew up in law enforcement community, I cannot believe where we're at as a nation right now. President Trump. is doing the right thing every day. Look, I spent so much time with the president, whether it's in the Oval Office, Air Force One, outside events. People can hate him all they want. This man loves this country.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
He's doing the right thing for this country. The America we grew up in, the America I grew up in, West Carthage, New York, a flag in our reports, that's the America he wants back. Securing the border saves lives. He has illegal immigration down 96%. Studies have been done that women who make that journey get sexually, 31% of women get sexually assaulted.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
When President Trump has illegal immigration down 96%, when 96% less people are coming, how many women aren't being raped? How many children aren't dying? How many Americans aren't dying from drug overdoses or fentanyl turns across that border? How many women and children aren't sex trafficked? How many members of the terrorist watch list or no-fly lists aren't coming across that border?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Even the wall saves lives. People say, Trump's family wall. No, every place they built a border barrier, illegal immigration went down, illegal drug flow went down. Every place they put a border barrier. The most important thing about the border barrier no one talks about, it saves lives. Because the most vulnerable, the women and children, can't get over that wall.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Which means they're going to do a place where there's not a wall. And what's waiting on them? The men and women of the Border Patrol, who's going to deal with that humanitarian issue right now, because a lot of them are in bad shape when they find them. Wall saves lives. So with 96% less people coming, how many lives are being saved every day on that southwest border?
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
President Trump's saving thousands of lives. A secure border saves lives, and that's what the President Trump has done. And the left will give him zero credit for it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
We got a great president. President Trump, during his first speech at the Capitol, when he says, you didn't need new laws, you didn't need Congress, you need a new president, he was exactly right. Because on Trump 45, he was a game changer, right? He created the Remain in Mexico program. He had the third safe country agreements. He thought, and to catch and release.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So we, I knew when he came back in office We know where to start because we already proved these policies worked. So he immediately wrote a series of executive orders. Many the same, many new ones. And like I said, in seven weeks, we had that board at the highest level ever. Even more now. I mean, I think in seven weeks had it down like over 90%, now we're at 96%.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
and arrested illegal aliens but i spent most of my time in phoenix in the anti-smuggling unit so we're mostly working you know the the smuggling group is coming from mexico up to the united states mexico and south america damn what are you stayed there for quite a while correct stayed in phoenix for 10 years
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And the numbers are extraordinary. Because what he came up with in his first administration proved it worked. That's why I push back against the bill that the Congress had that said that President Trump didn't want the board bill signed because he wanted this to be an election issue. That is such bullshit. That bill would not have worked.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Because it was going to allow, you know, $4,000 to $5,000 a day until they take action. You know, you do the math, that's $1.8 million a year. We're okay with that? No, we're not. We shouldn't be okay with one. And they didn't address the sex trafficking or the child trafficking. The bill was terrible. There was a bill called H.R.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
2 that the Republicans came up with and the Senate wouldn't even take it up for debate. So... The bill that everybody talks about that President Trump shut down, I hope he did. I was against it. I said it won't work. I said, why would we want to take a risk on a bill that we know won't work? And we know what the secret recipe is, is what Trump did in Trump 45, which H.R.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
2, the bill I was talking about that he decided wouldn't even bring up, that had most of Trump's plans in it. We know that worked. Why would you argue against known success? Well, here's what they did. They put this terrible bill up, had a couple of people in the Republican Party support it, for reasons I don't understand. They thought something was better than nothing, maybe.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But they came up with a bill, the last of the administration, trying to show they cared about the border. What they did, it was a setup. Let's get a couple of Republicans to agree to this. It will never pass. We know it will never pass. Then we say, Republicans shut down border security. They didn't want to fix it. They didn't sign this bill. President didn't support it. He didn't want it fixed.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
He wanted it to be an election issue. That was a bunch of crap. The bill wouldn't have worked. It would have made things worse. I've done it longer than anybody up on the Hill that was involved in writing this bill has been involved. It was a setup. Let's set a bill up. We know it will never be passed. Then we can put the blame on them for not passing the bill. That was their game plan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They tried it. When President Trump came back in, he did what he had to do, and we fixed it. Again, most secure border ever right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
The biggest game changer in securing the border was President Trump and his executive orders. They were the hugest big game changers. But we basically went down the same road we did before. And we added a few other things to it, like the Alien Enemies Act.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
We used every tool in the toolbox, every statute we could, every angle we could of existing laws, existing statutes, existing acts to secure that border. Rather than making the Border Patrol problem, or an ICE problem, we made it all a government problem. The game changer, President Trump.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
The game changer was the men and women of ICE and the men and women of the Border Patrol that actually did it, took construction, got it done. They're the heroes in all this. I mean, there's a guy sitting in the White House helping develop the strategies along with people like Steve Miller and others. But President Trump, his EOs were a game changer from day one. Remain in Mexico, game changer.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Out of all their policies, the last two administrations, Trump administration, that's the biggest game changer. You can still claim asylum. You have that right, but you're going to wait in Mexico. Because we know nine out of ten of you will lose and get order removal, and now we don't think we'll find you. And releasing people in the United States just is an enticement for people to come.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
When you no longer get released in the United States, If you're not really escaping fear and persecution, you're not willing to give your life savings to the criminal cartels to lose your case. If you really are escaping fear and persecution from your home government, then you're willing to put up with that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I climbed the ladder, and I was an agent, became a supervisory special agent, then deputy ADDI, assistant district director for investigations. Then from there, I went to San Antonio and became the head of that office, the ADDI, which equals a SAC, special agent in charge. They had different names back then. But yeah, I was actually the first ICE director. We actually came up through the ranks.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So, you know, here's a sad thing where the left is still saying, you know, these people are asylum seekers. They have a right to due process. They have a right to claim asylum. Okay, and nine out of 10 been already removed and you don't want them removed. Due process doesn't mean squat. If at the end of due process, the judge's order isn't executed.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And that's why the hate right now, the talk of a massive deportation operation is racist. What a terrible thing to do. No, it's not. On the end of historic illegal immigration crisis with 10.5 million, and that's a low number, came to the sun of this, what we know about, Tens of millions of people come to the border. You demand due process, and we give them that due process.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And a judge orders them removed, and we don't remove them? Then what the hell are we doing? Shut down the immigration court. Doesn't mean anything anymore. Take the border patrol off the border because there's no consequence. No. Due process doesn't mean squat if the final decision of the court isn't executed.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And if the message we want to send to the whole world, enter the country illegally, it's a crime, thousands of people die making the journey, show up in court or don't show up in court, get order removed, but don't worry, no one's looking for you, you don't have to be removed, you're never going to solve the problem. You can't demand due process, ignore the end. So that's exactly what we're doing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
People who've been already deported, they need to go home. But we're asking... If you're in the country, go on your own. Go on a CBP home app now. Sign up, we'll help you get home. We'll give you an airline ticket. Put some cash in your pocket, go home. It'd be a huge cost savings to American taxpayers.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
That way, you can come back maybe in the future on a legal program, maybe as a visitor, maybe as a student. Maybe you have a U.S. citizen child that can petition for you someday, a family relative. But if we have to go search for you and go through the whole process of having you formally deported, there are certain bars placed on you statutorily.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Anywhere from five to 20 years, you can't come back. Leave it on your own. Get your affairs in order, work with ICE, and leave it on your own. And that's what President Trump said. How is that inhumane? President Trump's offering different ways to get this done. But the answer is you can't stay here if you're in the country illegally. You've had your due process. It's time to leave.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
We can't send a message that our process means nothing, our laws mean nothing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Well, the cartels are trying to, you know, they're going to change their method of operation. They want to get their product in here somehow. So I said earlier, you know, maritime's increasing. There can be tunnels. They'll come through Canada. You know, again, we're on top of it. I think that's why President Trump is forcing Canada to do more to secure their southern border, our northern border.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And they're stepping up in some ways. The president wants more out of them. But addressing how the cartels change their method of operation is important.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
you seeing a lot of drone activity with product coming over yeah how are you doing activities picking up and there's but there's a lot of technology dod hasn't great technology along with there's a lot of companies out there at the table now with great drone technology uh to address that threat uh there was some intelligent reports saying they're going to deliver explosives and drones and try to harm us if that was ever to happen
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I started at the bottom run and got to the top. I didn't miss one run. So out of all my achievements, that's my most proudest achievement. I became an ice director. through the ranks, from the bottom to the top. And what I like about that is the 20,000 men and women that worked for me, I never asked them to do anything that I didn't do myself because I was one of them. So I'm very proud of that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
all hell is going to break loose. President Trump will not tolerate it. I said from day one, he will wipe them off the face of the earth and he will. He's already trying to talk to Mexico. Let's take the cartels out together. I think you and I both know it's going to take the United States, it's going to take this country, whether it's special forces or intelligence or whatever it is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They're not going to do it without it. They can't. Mexico has failed for decades to take out the cartels. It's going to take leadership from the United States. I hope Mexico comes to the table because President Trump wants to... wipe him off the face of the earth like he did the caliphate. I mean, he wants to do the right thing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I hope Maxwell steps up and lets us do it because that's the only way it's going to get done, in my opinion.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I can tell you that numerous drone operators have contacted me about helping on the border, and I send them over to CBP, Custom Border Operations. I don't deal with contracts, but I send them over to the right people. I know they talked to a lot of people. They got some... Great technology down there now. Again, as we get more budget from Congress, we can do more of that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But there's a lot of great companies out there that has great technology. I've said it from day one. We could not do what we do as a whole, the government, without smart contract personnel. It's like our detention operations. Our contract companies do it better than we've ever done it. They do it cheaper, they do it better.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Out of those ice trucks, my most expensive beds were the ones that we owned. The government doesn't do anything very cheap. There's a lot of smart companies out there coming to the table. Of course, you know, the left will say, well, they're prisoners for hire, prisoners for profit. There isn't a company out there that doesn't work for the government for a profit. I mean, you know,
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
If that's the case, then shut down McDonnell Douglas. Every company makes a profit dealing with the United States, but they provide a service we need. But I can tell you there's a lot of high-tech companies. It seems like technology improves every other month. Great drone technology, great tunnel technology, helping us find people that don't want to be found, great AI-generated stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
It's been fantastic. They're doing a lot of intelligence backing for us. They do... They do a lot of things that doesn't require immigration authority, a badge and gun. We've done 287 G with National Guard on the interior. My goal was, and the White House goal is, we need as many Title VIII immigration enforcement officers
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
with a badge and gun, many of them on the street or on the line as possible. We don't want them sitting there doing intelligence. We don't want them sitting there, you know, building infrastructure or transportation. Put the badge and guns where they're needed the most and bring other people into the other. I went down El Paso, watched DOD down there in action.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They're doing a lot of the intelligence. They got great capability to tell them where the groups are crossing, where they're coming to, and war trucks respond immediately to them. They do a lot of, their radar technology, their camera technology. They basically call out to us, okay, you got a group coming here or there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
It just saves our resources because rather than our guy operating the sensor or operating the camera, you got DOD doing that, and that's just more agents on the street to respond quicker. So they've been a great force multiplier. Of course, the DOD airplanes, the removal flights have been fantastic. You know, DOD stepping up with facilities.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
uh gitmo and things like that dod's been a game changer and i went to el paso with pete hexeth and he's all in i mean he like like i said he he told me he told me that you know it's great that dod is protecting our border now because they protect everybody else's border for decades It's a game changer. When I go on the streets with ICE and I go to raids, because I like to get out there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I miss it. So I go out there to raids once in a while. And rather than just seeing a jacket that says ICE, I see a jacket that says ATF, DEA, FBI, State Department. Everybody's working together. President Trump this time came back stronger and harder. And I think that's why we had the greatest success right now, because he brought the all of government.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Because again, I think the overarching principle here, you can't have strong national security if you don't have strong border security. We didn't know what's coming in, who's coming in, why it's coming in, where it's coming in. So I think President Trump recognizes that. So he put the all of government on there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And like I say, today we've got the most secure border in history of this nation because of his out-of-the-box thinking on this. I think other administrations are going to be envious of the success that President Trump's had.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
There's combat going on in the interior of Mexico. Because now they're fighting each other for control of the plazas because they're losing money. So they want bigger control. There's been a battle going on down there for a while. You don't read a lot about it, but I know people that have that intelligence. My fear, as I mentioned before, my fear is that violence overlaps the border.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I actually say a prayer every night for the men and women on the board to turn the ice to go home safe every day. Because I feel like it's a matter of time. I hope I'm wrong. But, especially in sanctuary cities, where they're knocking on the door of a bad guy, where he has access to who knows what, where he could have gotten in a county jail. I hope I'm wrong. But...
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
The odds of us doing this for four years with nobody being harmed concerns me. Our officers are at great risk because we are prioritizing the worst of the worst. And so many criminals came in under Biden. So many public safety threats, national security threats. I mean, our agents are being doxxed, pictures and home addresses being put out there. You know, I mean, I get doxed every day.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I mean, I'm used to it, but I had a thousand protesters on my home the other day. A thousand. They're not going to, you know, waste no time. You can excite your First Amendment rights all you want, but Tom Holmes is going to keep doing what he's doing. I'm not going anywhere. The agents, I'm concerned about the agents and the media doesn't help.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
When they, you know, they call them thugs and they're violating people's rights and they're violating civil rights, they're violating due process, a bunch of bullshit. These men and women are very well trained. And as one stepped online once more, yeah. You got bad dentists. You got bad doctors. You got bad lawyers. And I'm sure we have some bad officers here and there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But 99% of these men and women strap a gun to a hip every day, put a Kevlar vest on, and they don't make a lot of money. And they get vilified, just like the horse patrol did. They don't deserve that. But they got a president now, rather than sitting at the White House podium vilifying them for something they didn't do. You got a president that has her six.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Mexico stepped up. I mean, they put military on their border. They've agreed to remain in Mexico and stage progress. We got a tough president. He's not going to take no for an answer. You know, it's against the law in Mexico to traffic in women and children. They need a prosecutor. It's against the law in Mexico to transit that country. If you're from another country, you have a transit visa.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
But they allowed it. So President Trump, and Joe Biden could have done this. Strong president would do it. Strong president came in. He's not going to take no for an answer. You know, during Trump 45, I remember, you know, After Operation Magdor arrested all these El Salvador and MS-13 gang members on the way home on Air Force One, the president asked me how soon we can get them out.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I told him it's a long, drawn-out process because El Salvador pushes back on the return of criminals. I think it was two or three days later, I got a call. How many planes can we fill up? The president called El Salvador and said, you know, you're going to take them back. You know, the third safe country agreement. They didn't want to sign those bills. The president said, held them accountable.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Well, look, I was one of them, and I think one of my life's lessons my dad taught me is never forget where you came from. So when I was ice director, I don't care if you're GS5, you're an SCS. I'd go in a cafeteria and eat with whoever. Gray didn't mean anything. And I never forgot where I came from.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Mexico, Trump 45, you know, he's going to tariff them, you know. President Trump puts America first. So Mexico's helping. I don't know how much of it is because they want to help or how much they have to help because you've got a strong president in the White House. I mean, I don't get, you know, that's Marco Rubio and the president has those discussions, the vice president.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I can just tell you that Mexico has a lot of resources on the border now. And... There's some intelligence taking on some of the fentanyl, but we'll see.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I won't get ahead of the president on that, but I don't think the cartels are going to go away without U.S. involvement. President Trump did it, ISIS. We're really good at the away game. I think when it comes to criminal cartels, we got to play the away game. Stop the poison before it gets here. Then of course, in this side of the border, we got to address the drive, the need for drugs like that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
We got to address that. We're customers. But do I think the criminal cartels are going to go away without our involvement? Absolutely not. I don't know that. Mexico has failed in decades to do it. And like I say, a lot of Mexico's corrupt. They run Mexico.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Much of the Mexican military's corrupt. Much of the Mexican law enforcement's corrupt. Much of the Mexican government's corrupt. And many of them don't want to be corrupt. Well, you take the payoff and do what we tell you to, we'll kill you and your family, and they will. So, you know, I think if we were to wipe the cartels off the face of the earth, Mexico would be such a better country.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
It'd be a safer country. A self-ruling country where cartels don't own the military and law enforcement and some government officials. I think in the long run, Mexico would be such a better country if they didn't have the cartels operating there. So I think President Trump did exactly the right thing, designated them terrorists.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
I think he's doing the right thing, offering Mexico his assistance in taking them out. Do you think we'll see any action in the next three and a half years? I think that President Trump's going to do what he can to protect American people.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Kristi Noem's come to the table. I mean, she's done more. I see her out there an awful lot. She's done more enforcement actions than my orcas did in four years. So she's out there. I saw her out there the other day taking on Governor Pritzker, which she had been taking care of. But she's out there working. I saw her doing ride-alongs with ICE and Border Patrol and Coast Guard.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So she's out there with the men and women on the front line, which I think is... Great. I think it shows men and women that she's supporting them. Of course, now she's being vilified, right? So she's being attacked. I watched her hearing the other day. I thought she did great. They want to attack anything to do with immigration enforcement, anything to do with deportations.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
They're going to continue to attack and attack and attack. But again, we all expect to that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
And actually, when I retired the first time, my message to the troops where I left was, I may be retiring from this position, but I'm always going to have your six. Because the men and women in the Border Patrol, men and women of ICE, what great American patriots they are. So, and I'm back again. And again, don't forget where I come from. I don't let anybody carry my bag.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
citizens. We simply allow illegal alien parents to be deported to take, if they want to take their child with them who may have been born here, that's their decision. They can leave them here and take them with them. I mean, that's parenting one-on-one. And like I said, you know, if we didn't allow the mother to take her child with her, then the media would be saying,
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Trump administration is separating families again. We're trying to keep families together. I said it during the interview before the election. I was asked that question. How do you do a mass deportation operation while separating families? I said, deport the family together.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
If you're in this country illegally, and you know you're in the country illegally, and you choose to have a child here who's going to be a U.S. citizen based on that, you put yourself in that position. Not Tom Holman, not President Trump, not the Trump administration.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
You made that decision to have a child while you're here, knowing you're in the country illegally and you're most likely to be deported. That's on you. So when that parent gets ordered deported, they have a choice to make. They made a choice about having a child here, now you need to make a choice.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Take the child with you as a parent or leave him here with the other parent or leave him here with a relative. That is your call. So it's parenting one-on-one. Let the parent make the decision. But for those that vilify us, no. They put themselves in that position, now they got to deal with it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
Well, they say because you're a citizen of children, one of their parents, we deported children. Absolutely did not report the children. And others say, well, the child wasn't given due process. What do you mean due process? They're an infant. The mother says, my infant goes with me. Who's going to disagree with that? She's the mother.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
So, you know, like I say, the last administration, we want to attack zero tolerance, separating families. This time we're trying to keep families together. We can't do that either. I mean, we're doing the right thing. Parenting 101. I mean, again, if we send a message, you can enter the country legally. You can order to remove, don't leave. Hide out for a few years, have a U.S.
Shawn Ryan Show
#200 Tom Homan - The U.S. Border Czar
citizen child, and guess what? Now you're immune. That court order doesn't mean anything. You're immune from our laws. If that's the message we're going to send the whole world, you're never going to solve the problem. They're going to keep coming to this country. You have a U.S. citizen child, and you're good to go. That's the message we can't send. Having a U.S.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
We're not just going to attack them on our southern border, we're going to attack them across the globe. Jalisco cartels in 43 countries around the globe. Not only are they moving drugs across the border, that's the way it used to be, now they have a presence in every major city in this country.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
So on top of smuggling narcotics in this country, they're taking over the interior distribution of narcotics within our largest cities. We're going to attack them on the border. We're going to attack them in the interior United States. We're going to attack them in every country there around the world with the assistance of the other countries. This designation is putting them on notice.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
We're going to use the whole might of the United States government. to take them out. The first thing we do is take the money. If they don't have money, they have no power. They can't buy the Mexican military. They can't buy Mexican legislation. They can't buy Mexican judges. So we're going to shut them down one piece at a time.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
What President Trump did by designating a terrorist organization, take the first step, avoiding these cartels off the face of the earth. You know who's going to be more grateful than anybody? The country of Mexico. I've said this many times, there's a lot of corruption in Mexico, whether it's the military, law enforcement, or government officials. Many of them
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
Didn't choose to be corrupt, but cartels will tell you, you are going to do this and we're going to kill you and your family. To take the cartels out of Mexico and demolish them and incinerate them and take them off the face of the earth, we're going to free Mexico. We want to be under the control of the cartels. They can operate in a free society.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
So I think no one is going to be more grateful than Mexico.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
I appreciate the thanks. Let's give the thanks to the men and women wearing the green uniform who are down there 24-7. While I'm sitting at this event tonight, there's some border police standing on a dirt trail someplace. It's going to take somebody on, whether it's just an illegal ant or a heavy armed drug smuggler.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
These are the men and women who sit on that board 24-7 while we're laying in bed sleeping safe at night. Thank the ICE agents who are out there with a Kevlar vest and a gun on their hip going to sanctuary cities arresting bad people because they couldn't arrest them in the jail. And we got leakers telling people where these operations are. Let's pray for the men and women.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
I said, they go home and save their families every night. There's the real heroes. I'm grateful to be in. I got a great president, but I want to thank the men and women on the front line who are doing the job. Steve Miller is the architect, brilliant, probably one of the smartest men I've ever met. We strategize. We come up with plans. We come up with the methods of what we want done.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
But the men and women carrying the badge and gun, God bless them. Let's keep them safe because they're doing God's work on the front line.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
I expect President Trump to educate American people on the facts of the border, that what he did in three weeks, Biden administration failed to do in four years. We had the lowest border numbers in the history of the United States border. And that's not an exaggeration. Last month, we had the fewest number of encounters in the history of this nation. And President Trump did that in four weeks.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
So think what he's going to do in the next 47 months. So we've got the most secure border ever right now. We've got a little bit more work to do. ICE has record amounts of arrests in the interior. So as the president secures the border, here's what I hope people take away tonight.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
When you have 97% less people coming, border patrols now on the border, 100% engaged, 100% on duty, not changing diapers, not making baby formula, not making hospital runs, means we seize more fentanyl, less Americans die from fentanyl. We arrest more traffickers, so less women and children are sex trafficked. We got less no-inspector terrorists getting away in this country. The gotaways alone.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
Under Biden, average 1,800 gotaways the day that we know of. The other day, it's 41. And we're going to get that down to zero. So we're going to have total operational control of our southern border. It'll be the first time in history.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
Exactly. They're counting the numbers of what was removed. Look, President Trump can remove 90% of people coming across the border. His deportation numbers are still going to be lower than Biden, even if Biden deported 10%, because they brought millions of people in. Understand in one month, a total of 8,000. 8,000 in one month. And under Joe Biden, we're doing 11,000 a day, right?
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
I don't mean... It's a big game changer. And I say every day, and I'll say it tonight, President Trump proves every day why he's the greatest president in my lifetime.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
Well, look, President Trump did it before. This administration knew how to fix it. They just didn't choose to fix it. What Biden did was not mismanagement. It was not incompetence. It's by design. They knew exactly what they were doing. He ran on open borders. He said he's going to shut down ICE detention. He said he's going to put a moratorium on deportations.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
He says he's going to give free health care to illegal aliens. The promises he made, we knew the whole country, the whole world's going to come to the greatest nation on earth when you're offering all these giveaways with no consequences. They knew how to fix it. They refused to do it. Again, what they failed to do in four years, Donald Trump did in three weeks.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
Don't tell me. Because, you know, I've been fighting with the Democrat side of the House for a long time, especially the last couple of days. There's going to be members of Congress sitting in the audience tonight who are educating criminal illegal aliens how to evade law enforcement. They say, well, we're educating them as a constitutional right. Okay, plan what you want.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
We all know what you're doing. You're educating those how to evade law enforcement. Don't open your doors. Don't answer questions. You know, hide. And these are Congress people... that begged that these people had a right to claim asylum. They got a right to see a judge. They got a right to due process. And that happened. They had that due process. But 90% have been orderly moved.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
So if we don't execute the final decision of the courts, there is no due process. It means nothing. You can't demand due process and ignore the final decision of the courts. If we do that, they might as well just shut down the immigration courts, take the border control off the border. There's no consequences. You can't ask... to implement a system of laws and ignore the final result.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
And that's why we're going to have a massive deportation operation because millions of people across this border, 90% would get an order of removal. We've got to remove them. So any member of Congress who wants to educate, we made it clear the Trump administration is going to concentrate on the worst of the worst, worst public safety threats, right?
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
I can't believe any member of Congress wants to educate an illegal alien who's been convicted of a serious offense He's got order removal at the due process at great taxpayer expense and wants to educate on how to date arrest. To me, they are resigned to position as member of Congress because they're doing the complete opposite with American taxpayers' expectations.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
They haven't crossed the line yet. But if they cross the line, they're going to be prosecuted. You can stand aside and watch ICE do your job. ICE is making their community safer. And I find it hard to believe every day there's any mayor or governor or city council person that doesn't want public safety threats removed from the public. It's their number one responsibility is community safety.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
If you want to help us, get the hell out of the way. Well, I've warned numerous... mayors and governors, don't cross that line. If you impede us, that's a felony. And Pam Bondi, we'll ask Pam Bondi to prosecute. If you harbor or conceal an illegal alien, annoyingly harbor or conceal an alien from ICE, that's a felony. In my career, I've arrested U.S.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
citizens for harboring, concealing an illegal alien in a workplace or a home. If I can prosecute a U.S. citizen for doing it, why can't we prosecute a politician who does that same thing? So, you know, I think we've got a strong AG in Pam Bondi, and if they cross that line, we should prosecute and make an example out of them.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
Look, I think a lot of what they did is treasonous. Take, for example, the Galloways, right? They overwhelmed the border patrol where many nights, 70%, 7-0, 70% of agents were pulled off the line to make sandwiches, change diapers, make baby formula, make hospital runs, dealing with this humanitarian crisis they created on purpose. And the border patrol is overwhelmed.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
So we got 30% of border patrols left on the line. Then the criminal cartels will send a group of 100 family units in one area, knowing that 30% are going to seize that opportunity to deal with a humanitarian crisis there, which the cartels create gaps. So you got 2.2 million known gotaways. You got to ask yourself, why did 2 million plus people pay more to get away?
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
Because you pay the cartels one amount of money to get to the border, the cartels job ends when you get to the border because you turn yourself into a green uniform. You get released within 24 hours, you get a free airline ticket to the city of your choice, you get put in a free hotel room, you get three meals a day and free medical care.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
After about three months you get work authorization, the very reason they came here. So why do two million people pay more not to take advantage of that giveaway program? Why do they pay more to get away? Because they didn't want to be vetted. They didn't want to be fingerprinted. These are going to be people who are trafficking women and children. They're going to be ones carrying a fentanyl.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
And they're going to be ones coming from a country sponsoring terror. Now, under Trump, in four years, we arrested a total of 14 people on terrorist watch lists. 14 in four years. This Biden administration had 14 in a day. I mean, they were up over 400. So the question is, border patrols arrested people from 181 different countries. Many of these countries are sponsored with terror.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
They've arrested over 400. How many of that 2.2 million came from countries sponsored with terror? If you think it's zero, you're a moron. So this is the biggest national security vulnerability I've seen in my lifetime. Even FBI Director Wray, who I don't like, even he agreed this is the biggest national security vulnerability. He's seen a lot of red flags.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
What they did when they purposely opened this border up is create the biggest national security vulnerability this nation's ever seen. And we know there's people here that want to do us harm. We know national security threats enter this country. We're monitoring some, some we don't know where there are. So when you use the word treasonous, I agree with you.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
Because they, on purpose, created this open border, which resulted in a significant national security concern, national security vulnerability. We all know something's coming. The intelligence community believes something's going to be coming. And thank God we got President Trump in the Oval Office to deal with it when it happens.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
No one celebrated that election more than the criminal cartels. They knew they were back in business. The reason there's so much violence in Mexico right now is because the cartels are making more money than they've ever made in sex trafficking of women and children, alien smuggling, and the smuggling of narcotics. Now...
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
There's a lot of discontent in Mexico because President Trump has taken billions of dollars out of their pockets when he secures that border. So I think you're going to see more violence on the border. I don't think they're going to go away quietly.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
I think President Trump did the right thing, designated them terrorist organizations because these cartels have killed more Americans than every terrorist organization in the world combined. But what they did to the border was on purpose. I agree 100%. Here's why I know it's on purpose. We never talk about this. Let me just mention this.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
When Barack Obama was president, Joe Biden was vice president, Secretary Mayorkas was a deputy secretary. We had a surge of family groups coming across the border. How did we stop it? We built family residential centers. We held them long enough to see a judge. Ninety-one percent lost their case. We put them in an airplane and sent them home, and the border number is dumped.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
So Mayorkas knows how we fixed it, and Biden knows how we fixed it. What did they do when he becomes president, Mayorkas becomes secretary? They don't contain him. They don't make him see a judge. They don't deport him. They did exactly the opposite of what proved worked when he was vice president, the secretary of my office, the deputy secretary. So this wasn't an accident.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
They did the exact opposite of what they knew we succeeded with when President Obama was in office. So this wasn't, again, this was by design. They knew exactly what they were doing. And the reason they didn't detain them is because when an alien's in detention, they get a hearing within 40 days at top, which means in 40 days, that 91% be ordered to move and they go home.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
That's not what they wanted. So they released them to NGOs, put them in a hotel room, because once you're out of ICE custody, it's called a non-detained docket. Non-detained docket takes anywhere from three years to nine years, depending on what city you're in. And they knew in that three to nine years, They'll get one or two U.S. citizen kids.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
They'll get equities here, and hopefully a Democratic Congress and Democratic president that will reward them in amnesty. This is why they didn't detain them. They don't want them removed, so they figured they'd put them on the non-custody docket with the immigration court. Their cases are so far down the road that there'll be a change in the administration, and they can award them in amnesty.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
That's exactly what was their plan, and thank God we changed that in November and got President
The Ben Shapiro Show
Daily Wire Backstage: Trump’s Address to Congress
If you're involved in cartels anyway, if you're transporting for them, if you're moving money for them, if you're helping these cartels in any way, then you are part of a terrorist organization and we'll charge you with terrorist-related crimes, which has significant penalties. Being designated terrorist brings a whole of U.S. government, I'm including the military.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2188 - Canada Veers LEFT: Ugly Trudeau Wins!
I don't have the criminal history, but I know the one who stole the purse is supposedly in the country legally. But, you know, pick the wrong person to steal first from. I mean, Secretary Nome is a strong, strong secretary.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2126 - Did China Just DRINK OUR MILKSHAKE?!
No, I think the president's happy, but we're going to make him a lot happier. Yesterday was just day once, and these raids are going to go out throughout the country. We're not going to let up. We're going to put our foot on the gas, and we're going to go. And as I explained to several stations yesterday, the aperture is going to continue to grow.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2126 - Did China Just DRINK OUR MILKSHAKE?!
Right now, we're concentrating on public safety threats and national security threats. But as we open up the aperture, look for fugitives, those who had due process a great taxpayer expense. There's over a million of them, 1.4 million. They're on the table. Anybody in the country illegally, they're on the table. But we're going to go after them in a prioritization that makes sense.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2160 - The Case For Derek Chauvin | Episode 1: The Background
Not as old as the Constitution. We still pay attention to that, don't we?
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2160 - The Case For Derek Chauvin | Episode 1: The Background
Another flight. Another flight every day. Teams are going to be out there every day. Every day the men and women of ICE are going to be in the neighborhoods of this nation arresting criminal, illegal, alien, public safety threats and national security threats. Lawrence, you're not going to stop us. We made a promise to the American people. President Trump has made a promise to the American people.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2160 - The Case For Derek Chauvin | Episode 1: The Background
We're going to make this country safe again.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
President Obama's deal with Iran was so bad, as Prime Minister Netanyahu put it, because it didn't block Iran's path to a nuclear weapon. It's paved their path. And the critical point in that deal was it allowed Iran to keep centrifuges and to continue enriching uranium. Uranium can get enriched at different levels, at a fairly low level. is what's necessary for civilian nuclear power.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
That's at 3.67%. But if you have any enrichment capability and if you have those centrifuges, then moving from 367 up to 20 and up to 60 and ultimately up to weapons grade really is not that hard. It's just a matter of time. And that's one of the reasons why the nuclear deal with Iran that Barack Obama made was so terrible because it left them that vast nuclear infrastructure.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
Of course, it did nothing to address their missile program either. And you see the consequences of that now. Iran is arming rebels in Yemen that are shooting at our ships and shooting at Israel. They just almost hit Israel's airport over the weekend. They're shipping out their missiles and drones to Russia to use for attacks on Ukraine as well.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
And they're not that far away from having missiles that could hit the United States. So this is a threat not just to our friends in the Middle East, but a threat to the American homeland imminently in just a few years. President Trump, well, he withdrew from that terrible deal because it paved their way to a nuclear weapon.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
And what happened under the Biden administration is that they began to enrich uranium up to near weapons grade. And what President Trump has said as recently as his meet the press interview over the weekend is that we have to have the full dismantlement process. of that nuclear infrastructure. We cannot have them with any centrifuges or enrichment capacity.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
And if they wanted civilian nuclear power, they don't need that. Lots of countries around the world have civilian nuclear power and they import uranium for their nuclear power plants at the appropriate level without any ability to turn it into weapons grade uranium.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
Well, first, Ben, I wouldn't discount the threat of them striking the United States if they had nuclear warheads and intercontinental missiles. We spend a tremendous amount of time worried about North Korea's nuclear arsenal and trying to deter it or trying to build missile defenses for it.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
And frankly, I'm more concerned about the crazed theocratic ayatollahs in Iran than I am the Kim regime in North Korea. But that's just a few years away as well. Again, they're developing intercontinental missiles under the flimsy cover of a so-called space launch program. It's the same technology you need to develop ballistic missiles. But let's say that is a few years away.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
What in the interim would a nuclear weapon do? Well, look at what Iran already does, threatening Americans in the region. For that matter, threatening Americans here in the United States. They tried to assassinate Donald Trump. and former administration officials, for goodness sakes.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
They already arm terrorist groups like Hezbollah and Hamas and rebels in Yemen that are directly threatening our sailors and our troops today. And they do that without a nuclear umbrella. Imagine what they would do if they had a nuclear umbrella. And then, of course, there's the threat they pose directly to Israel as well. Former Iranian leaders have said that Israel is a one-bomb nation.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
They don't mean that Israel only has one nuclear weapon. They mean that they think they could destroy Israel with just one of their own weapons if they ever got it. And that's not just destroying Israel. That's destroying the state of Christendom around the world as well. Another effect would be the nuclear proliferation throughout the region. If you're sitting...
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
in Riyadh or you're sitting in Abu Dhabi and Iran gets a nuclear weapon, it's hard to imagine how you could feel comfortable without getting your own nuclear weapons as a deterrent.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
And the more countries that develop nuclear weapons, and I think particularly the more countries in the Middle East, an incredibly volatile region that develop nuclear weapons, the much greater risks that those nuclear weapons are used or those nuclear weapons fall in the hands of terrorists who would like to use them against the United States or our interests around the world.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
That's exactly right, Ben. I mean, if you can contrast, for instance, the difference between the war in Ukraine versus the war over Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990. One major difference is that Iraq didn't have nuclear weapons at the time. Thankfully, they would have had nuclear weapons if Israel hadn't destroyed their nuclear weapons facilities in 1981.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
But any time a country develops nuclear weapons, it severely limits security. our freedom of action and our friends' freedom of action. It gives them much greater cover to do things like continue to support terrorism, terrorists that have killed thousands of Americans over the years. So this is just one of the cascading effects you'd see if Iran ever got its hands on nuclear weapons.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
And that's why President Trump has been very clear, going back 10 years, the first time I ever spoke to Donald Trump. In fact, in the summer of 2015, he was a new candidate. He was coming to Arkansas. We talked on the phone. He thanked me for my work against the Iran nuclear deal and said that we can never have Iran.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
Iran can never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon or the vast nuclear infrastructure to develop nuclear weapons. And he hasn't changed a bit from that conversation I had with him in June of 2015 to where he is today in May of 2025.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
Well, first, Ben, the point you make about President Trump being very consistent is correct. He has advisors in his administration. They're exploring other possibilities, like the possibility of a nuclear agreement that we have with other countries. We have with the United Arab Emirates, for example, that would kind of put the lie to Iran that says they only want civilian nuclear power.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
It's like, OK, fine. We'll give you civilian nuclear power. You just can't enrich uranium. And if they say no to that, then we know what they really want. So I think that's part of where Secretary Rubio is coming from. But ultimately, in any administration, advisors advise and the presidents decide. It's just like me in the Senate.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
I've got a lot of great advisors on my team, but I'm the one that has to decide how to vote, and I'm the one that has to cast that vote and answer for it to the people of Arkansas. On the point of Qatar, you're right. They play both sides. And unfortunately, they play the other side a little bit more closely than we would like. They've long been close to Iran.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
They've long been much more sympathetic to the Muslim Brotherhood, which is kind of the intellectual font of terrorist groups like al-Qaeda and ISIS. They've been hosting Hamas for many years. Now, they might say like, oh, well, Israel and the United States tacitly asked us to do so. OK, well.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
Maybe, but we didn't ask you to put them up in a penthouse in the Four Seasons or to give them billions of dollars or to spread propaganda about Israel and what's happening in Gaza or around the world. Take, for instance, just a few weeks ago, there were widespread protests in Gaza by ordinary Gazans against Hamas.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
And that led the news, not just in Israel, but in Saudi Arabia and the UAE and elsewhere in the Arab world. If you were in Qatar, you had no idea what's happening because Al Jazeera and Qatari media never broadcasted at all. There's just a few more examples of how they've been playing both sides for too long. And unfortunately, they played a little closer to the other side than we would like.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
Yeah, well, first off, Ben, you're right about the president, again, being consistent and clear on this. You know, he doesn't talk like a normal Republican president of the past. You know, they might have said, well, we'd like to have a deal. But if we don't, all options are on the table. No, I mean, Donald Trump, he speaks the plain truth.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
He says, you know, Iran can have a deal and live happily without death or there will be bombing. I mean, he couldn't be more blunt about it. And The argument that, you know, striking their nuclear facilities, whether it's United States, whether it's Israel, whether it's some combination, it's going to lead to some, quote unquote, forever war.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
Again, simply belies the historical facts, some of which you laid out. President Trump authorized the killing of Qasem Soleimani, Iran's terrorist mastermind, in January of 2020.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
And many of the same voices today who are hysterically claiming that strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities would lead to forever war were the same ones then in late 2019 and early 2020 saying that this was going to start another war. I'm also reminded of the tanker wars in 1987 and 1988 when Iran was mining the Persian Gulf. It was threatening oil shipping out of the Gulf. It ultimately ended up
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
destroying or severely damaging a U.S. naval vessel. And what did Ronald Reagan do? He didn't take it to the U.N. He actually sank half of Iran's navy. He was asked on the walk to Marine One on the south lawn of the White House one day in that period, if we were at war with Iran now. And he looked and he chuckled in his kind of Reagan-esque way. And he said, no, Iran wouldn't be so stupid.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
So, again, it's many of the same voices in the past that said the forceful but discriminant application of military power to achieve national objectives is going to lead to a war that were wrong then that are wrong now as well. And as you put it, Iran is both. unusually dangerous and unusually weak in this moment.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2192 - Stop Giving Your Money To Crappy People
Dangerous because of all the advances they made in their nuclear and missile program under Joe Biden, but weakened because Israel has destroyed their terrorist proxies in Hamas and Hezbollah. We're in the process of doing that in Yemen. And Israel also destroyed most of their air and missile defenses.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Well, let me start with this first, if you don't mind. So during CPAC, I made a statement that I was going to go to Boston and bring hell with me because child rapists, illegal aliens that were walking the streets of Boston because of the sanctuary policies, not only in Boston, but the entire state of Massachusetts.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Well, I went up there and started, as promised, I went to Boston last Tuesday and we started a five-day operation. We arrested 370 illegal aliens. most of them criminal threats, including child sexual predators, murderers, gun traffickers, drug traffickers. So kept our promise. So once again, we're proving that Massachusetts is a sanctuary haven for the worst of the worst.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
So follow through on that promise. As far as the border, as the numbers are down right now, we're at 96% decline in illegal entries. It's the most secure border we've ever had. We've got more to do. The most... What I like the most is the number of gotaways. Under Joe Biden, we were averaging 1,800 gotaways a day. People that entered the country, weren't arrested, weren't vaccinated, got away.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
We went from 1,800 to double digits, like 42. So that's a good number. Of course, illegal deaths that went down, American deaths from fentanyl is going down as we secure the border. As far as interior enforcement operations, We've arrested more criminals in the first two months of the Trump administration than Joe Biden did all last year. So our numbers look good on the interior. I want more.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
I'm happy the numbers are high, but we need more. So I'm asking ICE to target more people, increase the targeting, and remove more public safety threats out of this country. Boston was a great operation, but we need more.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
My side, you know, I've talked to the highest levels of ICE. I talked to the officers that are involved with that manifest and putting those targets together. They guarantee me that every one of the Venezuelans I've fought with is a TDA member. Doesn't surprise me that any family member of TDA are going to say they're not TDA because they certainly don't want them in El Salvador in prison.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
But look, this was based on a lot of investigative work. Anything from scraping social media to surveillance to intelligence briefings to criminal investigations, just because a gang member doesn't have a criminal record doesn't mean they're not a gang member, just as most terrorists in this world aren't in any terrorist database.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
So I'm going to believe the men and women who do this for a living before I believe any member of TDA. I've been told they're all members of the TDA. TDA has been designated a terrorist organization. MS-13 has been designated a terrorist organization. Everybody on those flights are terrorists that were removed from this country. President Trump keeping his promise to the American people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
It pisses me off because you're talking about the men and women of ICE who strap a gun to the hip every day, put a badge on their chest and put themselves in harm's way every day to protect this public, to remove public safety threats and national security threats from the streets of this country. To compare them to the Nazis, for God's sakes? Are you kidding me? To the annihilation of the Jews?
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
That's an insult to everybody that wears... That should be an insult to every American, to compare what ICE does every day to Nazis. It's incredible what's coming from a judge. These people, a lot of these people on these flights had due process because some of them were Title VIII, were removed to Title VIII. They already got removed by a federal judge. But the terrorists...
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
to the Alien Enemies Act, a law that was enacted by Congress and signed by a president. We're enforcing the law on the books. We're not making this up. President Trump, by proclamation, took the steps he could take to remove terrorists from the country as quick as possible, and that's exactly what we did.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
So I'm shocked but not surprised that somebody would say something like that, but it's disgusting.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
No, she's not. Look, I'm a native New Yorker, born in New York, raised in New York, went to college in New York. I got a home in New York, and she's an embarrassment to the position she holds. She's lying. First of all, we don't need a warrant. Under an Immigration Nationality Act, we go with administrative warrant. She's talking about a criminal warrant.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
No, the Congress says in federal law, all of these administrative warrant, she won't honor them. And here's a woman who says, a governor who says, well, we want to help. She stood on national TV after illegal aliens Benzo Williams beat up NYPD.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
She stood on national TV after a woman was burned alive by an illegal alien on a subway, making a statement that I believe criminal aliens should be deported too. And what's the first thing she did? She flew down into New York and tried to remove Mayor Adams, who wants to work with ICE, getting us to Rikers Island. Rikers Island is where they hold criminal illegal aliens.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
He wanted to remove them because he wants to work with ICE to go on to Rikers Island. So she's speaking on two sides of her mouth. She believes in sanctuary policy. She ought to go talk to citizens in upstate New York, like Buffalo and Syracuse, where illegal aliens have killed young girls, American citizens. Again,
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
she's an embarrassment to the position she holds and she needs and i just you know i was up in new york just two weeks ago called her out a press conference but her misstatements law enforcement the cops the law enforcement the guys working the front line they want to work with us because they know not only can we remove the public safety threats from the community we can move them from the country which means law enforcement officers don't have to rescue an illegal alien five or six times over and over again which means they spend more time on public safety issues
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
So absolutely, she's lying to the American people. She's lying to the taxpayers in New York.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
First of all, Pam Bonney's already suing some of these sanctuary cities. I think she's going to sue a lot more. But in the meantime, we're going to keep coming. They're not going to stop us from doing what we're doing. I'll tell you the same thing I said in New York at the press conference in New York about HOCO. You want to embrace these sanctuary policies?
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Will you knowingly release a public safety threat illegal alien back into the public? That's just plain stupid. But if you keep doing that, what does that mean? That means we send more ICE officers to your communities. That means more collateral arrests get made. The big thing they keep saying, well, you're arresting non-criminals. No kidding.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
If you want to release a public safety threat criminal back in the community, it means I got to send agents in the community to find him. When we find him, most likely he's with other illegal aliens. It may not be a criminal investigation. be a criminal convicted or a public criminal threat. However, they're in a country of legal. Well, guess what? We're not going to tell ICE to turn a blind eye.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
They're going to enforce the laws. They've been took an oath to enforce. We're going to arrest those collateral illegal aliens. So sanctuary city is going to get exactly what they don't want. More officers in the community and more collateral risk because you force us in the community. And if you are a sanctuary city is concerned, we'll double the manpower there.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
We're not going to stop doing what we're doing. American people gave President Trump a mandate. His number one issue was illegal immigration, border security and removing the worst of the worst. And that's what we're doing. And no one's going to stop us.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
That plane was full of people designated as terrorists, number one. Number two, every Venezuelan migrant on that flight was a TDA member based on numerous criminal investigations, on intelligence reports, and a lot of work by ICE officers.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Matter of fact, two days after that flight took off, I even had a discussion with the acting director of ICE, and he reiterated that every person, every person that went on that plane was a known member of the TDA.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Well, as far as Mayor Wu and her comments, you know, well, we got 370 of them and we're coming back. We're going to come back again and again and again to remove public safety threats from Boston and from Massachusetts. And the governor and the mayor can say what they want. We're going to keep coming. As far as Congress, we need money, Charlie. We need money to buy more beds.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
We need money for more flights. The more money we have. the more we can do. Look what we've done already. Border crossing down, like I said, 96%. We're arresting three times more people than Joe Biden did in the same time period. But we got a lot of public safety threats. Last count, about 700,000 final order public safety threats. We need to find these people, but it takes money.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
It takes money to do operations. It takes money to detain them. It takes money to transport them and fly them out of the country. So Congress needs to come to the table and fund this mandate for the president. We're going to keep the president's promise. But again, the more resources we have, the more successful we're going to be.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Thank you. Thank you for doing what you're doing, Charlie. I appreciate you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
Thanks for having me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
Well, look, it's going to add more border agents, Border Patrol agents to the border, along with OFO, which are the people who work the port of entries. It's going to add more technology to the port of entries, so we see more drugs and more contraband coming through.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
Still speeding up the legal trade, but having the most recent up-to-date technology to move traffic quicker, but still catch the contraband. It's going to help us finish the wall. I mean, not only finish the wall, you know, several hundred miles of the wall, but it's going to also bond several hundred miles of water buoys, buoys placed in the river that are actually very, very effective.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
And it's going to save lives because once a lot of illegal aliens see that buoy that you can't get over, you can't get under it, They won't risk getting in a river and drowning. It's going to save a lot of lives.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
But the technology, even the existing wall, the new wall that President Trump built under 45, Joe Biden came in and not only ended building more wall, but ended the technology that went into the existing wall. that allows agents to have, you know, if you touch the wall, we know. If you dig under the wall, we know.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
If you climb the wall, we know, because there's all sorts of technology within that wall. But most importantly, within that technology, you give border patrol agents ability to talk to one another in dead areas. There's a lot of areas on the border where there is no radio tower. There is no capability of a repeater system. So an agent's got to have an emergency, talk to another agent for backup.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
There are some dead areas on the border. That's going to improve communications all across the border. So that's... It's going to fund that in the borders. We can finish what we started. The border is more secure in a lifetime. We've got to finish the job. This could be the first administration ever to have total operational control of our southern borders. We need to finish it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
We need money to do that. As far as interior operations, that funds more ICE agents. It's going to fund more detention beds, which we really seriously need. Right now we've got about 50,000 in detention. We need 100,000 beds to even put a dent in detention. what we're trying to do here.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
So it's going to let us find beds because every person we arrest, we've got to bed them before we get travel docs and send them home. So it's going to buy us more beds. It's going to buy us more vehicles. It's going to increase ICE by 10,000, which we need. Right now there's 6,000 ERO officers compared to 20 million illegal aliens. So we've got a big hill to climb, so it's going to add more agents.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
It's going to add more money for more beds. It's going to add money for more transport. both over the ground bus transport in the interior, plus international flights is going to add money to that. It's also going to allow us to build out more contract work.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
So rather than a badge and gun with title eight authority, immigration authority sitting doing administrative job, let's get a contract to do that job and put that badge and gun on the street. So allow us for all these things so we can continue doing what we're doing. increase the interior enforcement arrest, as the American people have mandated President Trump to do.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
It's going to let us finish the job we started. We're doing great, but we need more money. The more money we have, the more good stuff we can do.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
I'd like to see more, but right now we're hurting for every dollar that we can get. Right now, this morning I woke up and looked at empty beds. We've got about 2,800 empty beds right now. We'll fill them in three days. So we need money quickly to buy more beds, or everything stops. I'll take whatever we can get because, you know, every dollar we got means we can do more work.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
I'd like to see, like you said earlier, $150 billion just on border and interior enforcement. But we'll see when the final number comes out. But, you know, we need desperately the money right now. I think ICE is in the hole. you know, a half a billion dollars. I think they're in the hole almost 500 million dollars because we got over 52,000 in detention. We're funded at 34.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
So we're already in the hole. So a lot of this money is going to be, you know, getting ice out of the hole plus adding beds to get above the line. So we desperately need money. So I hope the final number is bigger than that, but I'll take what we can get.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
Well, half a million is absolutely realistic. We're shooting for a million, but a half a million is realistic and lucky enough. But sanctuary cities, they put speed bumps in on us. Because red and the rest of them, bad guy in the county jail, now we got to go to community and find him. Somebody don't want to be found. That slows us down.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
We had district court judges issuing nationwide injunctions against our enforcement operations. That slows us down. But again, it's all about manpower. It's all about more money for manpower, more market targeting. There's a lot of smart companies out there, a lot of smart businesses out there. with the most recent technology to help us find those people that don't want to be found.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
So bring some of these contracts up, help improve targeting. But the most important thing is resources, beds, planes, buses, and boots on the ground. And this bill will get us there. It'll get us the resources we need. I'm looking to do three times more than we're currently doing. So the numbers are hard, the Biden's numbers. I should be happy with that, but I'm not. I'm not satisfied.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
The same message I've used since January 20th with sanctuary jurisdictions and politicians. I've been saying a thousand times, you cannot support us. Shame on you. You can support sanctuary cities. Shame on you. Sanctuary cities, you can step back and watch us do your job, make your community safer and not assist us with criminals, public safety threats in your community.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
But don't cross that line. I've used the term don't cross that line since January 20th. If you cross that line of impeding our enforcement efforts, that's a felony. If you cross that line unknowingly and harboring or concealing an illegal alien from ICE, that's a felony. You can't criminal trespass in our facilities. And you certainly... certainly can't put hands on an ICE officer.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
And that's what she did. So she's being held accountable. Remember, we got two judges being prosecuted. We got a mayor that's arrested. We got a congresswoman. And look, they're not above the law either. They've been preaching four years. Trump wasn't above the law. Well, either are they. And we're going, I wasn't bluffing. We're going to hold people accountable.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
You break the law, we're going to seek prosecution.
The Charlie Kirk Show
How the Big Beautiful Bill Affects Our Big Beautiful Border
Thank you for having me.
The Daily
Trump’s Showdown With the Courts
I don't know why. I don't know why any judge would want terrorists to return to the United States.
The Daily
Trump’s Showdown With the Courts
And we're going to make this country safe again. I'm proud to be a part of this administration. We're not stopping. I don't care what the judges think. I don't care what the left thinks. We're coming.
The Daily
The Sordid Saga of President Trump and Mayor Adams
I came to New York City. I wasn't going to leave without nothing. And I told him, I'm not leaving until I got something.
The Daily
The Sordid Saga of President Trump and Mayor Adams
If he doesn't come through, I'll be back in New York City, and we won't be sitting on the couch. I'll be in his office, up his butt, saying, where the hell is the agreement we came to? I'm going to be up your butt.
The Dan Bongino Show
President Trump Did More In A Day Than Others Did In Two Terms (Ep. 2406)
No, it started. It started. All these teams are out there as of today. We gave them the direction that... prioritize public safety threats that we're looking for. So we've been working on the target list. There was some discussion about Chicago because a specific operational plan was released. So we had to look at and reevaluate, does this raise officer safety concerns? And it does.
The Dan Bongino Show
President Trump Did More In A Day Than Others Did In Two Terms (Ep. 2406)
But we've addressed that and teams are all effective today.
The Dan Bongino Show
The Trump and Elon Tag Team Rock The Deep State (Ep. 2421)
Well, look, we think it's coming from inside. And we know the first leak of Aurora is under current investigation. We think we identified that person under investigation right now. The California leak, Secretary Noem, she's correct. Some of the information we're receiving tends to lead toward the FBI. But I talked to Deputy Attorney General all this weekend.
The Dan Bongino Show
The Trump and Elon Tag Team Rock The Deep State (Ep. 2421)
They've opened up a criminal investigation. And they have promised that not only this person will lose their job and lose their pension, they're going to go to jail. They're going to criminally prosecute. So we're all over it.
The Dan Bongino Show
Is China Ready To Make A Deal? | Episode 38
Here I am thinking I have a queue, but I don't have a queue.
The Dan Bongino Show
Is China Ready To Make A Deal? | Episode 38
He is, I don't believe he's being advanced to the markup. And I met with Mr. Martin. He seems like a good man. Most of my concerns related to January 6th. And he built a compelling case on some of the 15-12 prosecutions that were probably key to the moment bad decisions.
The Dan Bongino Show
Is China Ready To Make A Deal? | Episode 38
But where we probably have a difference is I think anybody that breached the perimeter should have been in prison for some period of time, whether it's 30 days or three years is debated.
The Dan Bongino Show
Is China Ready To Make A Deal? | Episode 38
Probably have a difference as I think anybody that reached the perimeter. Should have been in prison for some period of time, whether it's 30 days or three years is debatable, but I have no tolerance for anybody who entered the building on January the 6th, and that's probably where most of the friction was.
The Dan Bongino Show
Is China Ready To Make A Deal? | Episode 38
Well, now I have to say that Mr. Martin did a good job of explaining how There were people that probably got caught up in it. But they made the stupid decision to come through a building that had been breached and that the police officers and others were saying stay away. So the difference wasn't that they should be charged in my estimation. It's by how much.
The Dan Bongino Show
Is China Ready To Make A Deal? | Episode 38
That's an argument I'm willing to have. But we have to be very, very clear that what happened on January the 6th was wrong. It wasn't... What is this? It was not prompted or created by other people to put those people in trouble. They made a stupid decision, and they disgraced the United States by absolutely destroying the Capitol, and I can't have any impatience for them.
The Dan Bongino Show
Is China Ready To Make A Deal? | Episode 38
It sounds like your concerns were... But let me be very clear, though. Mr. Martin did a good job of explaining the one area that I think he's probably right, that there were some people that were over-prosecuted. But there were some, 200 or 300 of them, that should have never gotten a... Pardon. And he agreed with that. But the disagreement there had more to do.
The Dan Bongino Show
Is China Ready To Make A Deal? | Episode 38
If Mr. Martin were being put for what are you even saying for any district except the district where January 6 happened, the protest happened, I'd probably support him, but not in this district. When you said he's not being advanced to the markup, was he operating under that understanding that he's not being advanced through to a markup?
The Dan Bongino Show
Is China Ready To Make A Deal? | Episode 38
Well, I think Mr. Martin, I'm sure they're looking through it. I mean, to be clear, some of the deadline has to do with the length of time he can operate his acting, and the administration can work through that if they want to have more time and potentially work him through. But at this point, I've indicated to the White House I wouldn't support his nomination. Has Trump called you yet on this?
The Dan Bongino Show
Nightly Scroll With Hayley - Trump, Elon bring Astronauts HOME!
Another flight. Another flight every day. The teams are going to be out there every day. Every day the men and women of ICE are going to be in the neighborhoods of this nation arresting criminal, illegal, alien, public safety threats and national security threats. Lawrence, you're not going to stop us. We made a promise to the American people.
The Dan Bongino Show
Nightly Scroll With Hayley - Trump, Elon bring Astronauts HOME!
President Trump has made a promise to the American people. We're going to make this country safe again. I wake up every morning loving my job because I work for the greatest president in the history of my life. And we're going to make this country safe again. I'm proud to be a part of this administration. We're not stopping. I don't care what the judges think. I don't care what the left thinks.
The Dan Bongino Show
Jay Bhattacharya on Secret Bio-Labs, COVID Origins, and MAHA | Episode 44
Come on, give me a break. You know, I was enforcing it. I was wearing a green uniform, border patrol agent, for five years before she was even born. I had more than three decades enforcing immigration law before she became a member of Congress. I've worked for six presidents. I've seen policies. I've seen hundreds of policies. Some worked, some didn't. What you can't deny...
The Dan Bongino Show
Jay Bhattacharya on Secret Bio-Labs, COVID Origins, and MAHA | Episode 44
The success of the Trump administration when it comes to border security. Again, the most secure border in the history of this nation. And ICE said from day one, and she knows this, you can not support ICE. Shame on you. You can support sanctuary cities. Shame on you. But you can't cross the line. You can't knowingly impede ICE law enforcement officers. That is a felony.
The Dan Bongino Show
Jay Bhattacharya on Secret Bio-Labs, COVID Origins, and MAHA | Episode 44
You can't harbor and conceal. Knowingly harbor and conceal, it will go alien from ICE. That is a felony. And you certainly can't commit criminal trespass. You know, and as far as New York, her district, this administration has done more to protect her district than she has. The number of criminal aliens we took off the streets of New York made her community much safer.
The Dan Bongino Show
Jay Bhattacharya on Secret Bio-Labs, COVID Origins, and MAHA | Episode 44
She ought to be thanking the members of this administration, the men and women of ICE, who protect this country and make her community safer. So, you know, politics over public safety is just ridiculous. She ought to love her community more than she hates Trump because we're doing a lot to protect her community.
The Dan Bongino Show
Bitter Dems Move To Shutdown Government (Ep. 2441)
Now, I always hear all the time, family separation, home and the godfather's separation. Let me be clear. Zero tolerance is about saving lives. If we start prosecuting people who violate the law and put the children in harm's way, maybe they stop coming. And they did. Numbers went down. It's unfortunate families got separated. But it happens to American families every day.
The Dan Bongino Show
Bitter Dems Move To Shutdown Government (Ep. 2441)
It's going to happen in Albany today that an American family will be separated by law enforcement because the child can't go to jail with a parent. We want to talk about family separation. A half a million children on Joe Biden were trafficked into this country. They can't find 300,000 of them. That's a separation. But you know what President Trump's committed?
The Dan Bongino Show
Bitter Dems Move To Shutdown Government (Ep. 2441)
We're going to find them and we're going to save them because many children are in forced labor. Many children are in forced sex slavery. We're going to save them. This administration.
The Dan Bongino Show
The Pope Is Dead. And The Supreme Court Is Meddling. | Episode 26
My husband is alive. That's all I can say.
The Dan Bongino Show
The Pope Is Dead. And The Supreme Court Is Meddling. | Episode 26
I believe we're removing public safety threats and terrorists, designated terrorists, to that prison in El Salvador. Trendy, Albert, M.S., terrorism organization. What you don't know, what most readers don't know, they haven't seen the experience that I've seen in my 40 years. I started in Baltimore in 1984.
The Dan Bongino Show
The Pope Is Dead. And The Supreme Court Is Meddling. | Episode 26
I've talked to young girls, youngest nine that were raped by members of these gang cartels. I've held dead bodies throughout my career. I've talked to a hundred angel moms and dads whose children were killed and brutally murdered by members of MS-13 who just didn't kill them. They mutilated them. They tortured them.
The Dan Bongino Show
The Pope Is Dead. And The Supreme Court Is Meddling. | Episode 26
So if people wore my shoes for the last 40 years and seen the travesties I've seen, they would understand that the worst of the worst need to be sent to a prison like that because we've got to protect American citizens. We've got to protect this country.
The Dan Bongino Show
REVEALED: Ed Martin To Pursue The J6 Pipe Bomber And More | Episode 41
Watching that body cam video, absolutely incredible to see that that went down. And before we get to it, I'd like you to also hear what the Newark mayor had to say also in his defense.
The Dan Bongino Show
REVEALED: Ed Martin To Pursue The J6 Pipe Bomber And More | Episode 41
Tom, he's saying they're the good guys here.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
Well, look, the border right now, we got the most secure border in the history of this nation. It's even better than Trump 45. And the data proves it. I mean, we went from highs of, you know, almost 15,000 a day under Joe Biden. And yesterday, I haven't got today's number yet, but yesterday's number was 211. So we went from 10 to 15,000 to 211 across the entire Southwest border.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
That's the lowest numbers I've seen in my, you know, 40-year-plus career. And the gotaways went from 1,800 a day. The gotaways running are right around 35, you know, from 1,800. But the most impressive stat is those released into the United States. I think so far since President Trump's been in office, we've had a total of 9,000.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
that were released from the border, and only one of them was discretionary release. Four were material witnesses. We wanted them here to testify in the trial. Four were when they crossed the border, such significant medical decline, we had to call an ambulance, so we had to deal with their medical issues.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
We had to let them in and deal with them because they're that bad off, and then they'll be returned. But only one discretionary release out of, and that was for a humanitarian issue, I believe it was some sort of medical transplant issue. Anyways, So that was one release since President Trump's been in the Oval Office. The same time period on Joe Biden.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
but almost 200,000 released compared to one. So we have the most secure border in the history of this nation right now. So the numbers, the data proves it.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
We're seizing, they're seizing narcotics, but the true measure is, you know, the amount of overdose deaths from fentanyl, which has declined at a great pace. So it's hard to measure, you know, are we seizing a lot compared to the Biden administration?
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
With every border patrol agent on the line, we're seizing a higher percentage of it, but we're not seeing the drugs we saw during the Biden administration. Matter of fact, intelligence reports that I've read says that the cartels are actually looking at the European market now because they're having trouble in the United States, especially on the southern border.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
Now, there are some recent intelligence reports saying that some of the cartels will try to operate out of Canada and come to the Canadian border. We haven't seen that come to fruition yet, but they're always going to, you know, change their method of operation in response to what we're doing on the border. But the fentanyl overdoses have declined at a great number.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
So it's obviously have an impact. And I said from day one, if you have a secure border, you're going to be, you can see less sex trafficking of women and children. You're going to see less drugs killing Americans. You're going to have less illegal aliens dying. I mean, I only drove by and we had, you know, over 4,000 aliens died making this journey. That number is greatly decreased.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
So secure border saves lives and we're proving it.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
Well, Secretary Kennedy is exactly right.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
I mean, under the Biden administration, you had over half a million, half a million children were smuggled in this country, you know, taken out of the hands of their families, put in the hands of criminal cartels, for God's sakes, to be smuggled in this country, many times delivered to the very people who paid for the smuggling, which conspiracy to smuggle aliens is a felony.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
But Joe Biden, you know, his administration turned a blind eye to it. Then they went to check in on him. and they couldn't get response from over 300,000 of them. So I said on day one, the Trump administration, when he brought me back to the border, he said, I want you to secure the border. I want you to run the big deportation operation. I want you to lead the effort to find these children.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
And last number, I think we're at over 8,000 children that we have found. Many of them were with family members, which was a great story, right? but many of them weren't. I mean, I just, one example is two weeks ago, I was briefed on one case where a 14-year-old girl they found living with two adult males, not related to her, and she was already pregnant.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
She was a victim of, you know, sex trafficking. So we rescued her. So, you know, and there's been, there's been many we've rescued. So this is about finding children and rescuing those that were in forced labor or forced sex trafficking.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
We know for a fact HSI has investigations in children in forced labor at meatpacking plants and factories and chicken farms, not going to school, but forced into labor. We know many are forced into prostitution. But as we're going out, we're not going to rest until we find every one of them. If they're with their families safe, then we'll do immigration consequences.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
But our first priority right now is to save children who are living a life of hell every day, and that's exactly what we're doing. It shouldn't instill fear in anybody Unless they got a problem, they got an illegal usher in the country illegally, it shouldn't scare anybody unless you're a child trafficker or forcing a child into labor.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
So we're not going to let the media shy us away from this very important task. I tell you, based on 40 years of me doing this job, I guarantee you, and we've already seen it, some of these children are waking up every day, living a life of hell because they're in forced labor, forced sex trafficking. We need to save these children. And the media and the left is not going to stop us from doing it.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
Well, I've said, you know, if you've seen my interviews the last, you know, three months, I've been very clear. I'm happy with the border. Got a little bit more work to do. But as far as the interior operations, our numbers are much better than Joe Biden. I guess that's a good thing. But Joe Biden wasn't doing much, so I'm not really impressed that we're doing more.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
We need to do a hell of a lot more. So I've been pushing for more arrests in the interior. I said, we got to do more. We got to do better. Because you got over 600,000 illegal aliens in this country with criminal convictions walking the streets of this country. So arresting 1,000 a day is not enough. So right now, the numbers on the test this morning were about 1,500. And we need to double that.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
And I agree with Steve Miller 100%. Like Steve Miller, guy's brilliant. He's the architect. And it's an honor to work with him. And I agree with him. And I agree with Secretary Kristian Ohm. We got to have more. And it's not going to be hard to do. I mean, we got we're going to have over a thousand at large teams, a thousand teams, which is much more than we had a month ago.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
We've increased targeting and we're flooding the zone of sanctuary cities, sanctuary cities. They put roadblocks up, right? Rather than one agent arresting one criminal and in the jail, they release them. Now I got to send the whole team five or six people to go arrest them on his terms. We got to send a team for officer safety concerns. So it's less efficient. So what do we do?
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
We know we got a problem in sanctuary cities. We know not only do criminal aliens live in the sanctuary cities, but local law enforcement can't work with us and they're releasing them. We don't have that problem in Florida. We don't have that problem in Texas. So what we're going to do is concentrate in sanctuary cities because we know there's a problem. So we're going to flood the zone.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
We're going to flood the zone's additional teams. We're going to flood the zone's additional teams doing worksite enforcement. If we can't arrest a bad guy in the jail because of sanctuary rules, then we're going to arrest him in the neighborhood. We can't find him there. We're going to arrest him at the worksite.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
So sanctuary cities are going to be flooded with officers doing what they need to do to find these public safety threats. So you're going to see the numbers increase substantially in the next few weeks.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
Oh, look, things are much easier in Florida. Florida, they've mandated 287G, and Governor DeSantis said any sheriff or chief that doesn't cooperate with ICE, he'll have terminated. Texas, they're stepping up, and we've got some states that are really, Tennessee, we've got some great states stepping up, but California's a problem. They've got SP, I think it's SP-54. The whole state's a sanctuary.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
And Governor Newsom, you know, he doesn't, you know, he's one of these governors that vilify ICE every day. So it makes the job more difficult. But in California, worksite enforcement, it's going to be very important. Again, if we can't have, we don't have cooperation with the jails, which means we've got to go to neighborhoods.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
We have court injunctions in California where it ties ICE's hands about who can they even approach on knocking talks at their home. So there's a place there where we want to concentrate on worksite enforcement because We have the right to do that. We have no court injunctions on that. They'll probably try to place one, but worksite enforcement will be very important in California.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
And so you can look for a lot in California, a lot more resources sent to California. We have a big footprint there already, but we're going to double that footprint. We're going to take these public safety threats off the street and then sanctuary cities just requires more agents. And that's why I've been pushing, get this bill passed, the big, beautiful bill.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
We need the money to put boots on the ground. We need the money for technology to help us find these people. We need the money for more beds because everybody who rests needs a bed. We got to bed them down from several days to several weeks where I work on transportation and getting travel documents from their home nation. So we need money to do this. We're doing great. But we got to do more.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
The more money we have, the more we can do. And we can keep President's promise to the American people that we will run the biggest deportation in the history of this nation. It takes money to do that. I'm hoping Congress steps up. I'll say, I said it a thousand times. Border security should be a nonpartisan issue. A secure border saves lives. It saves American lives. It saves alien lives.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
It saves sex trafficking in women and children. It saves people on the church. Watch this Roman cross. And it bankrupts the cartels who killed hundreds of thousands of people. So it should be a nonpartisan issue. And you can't have strong border security if you don't have strong interior enforcement options.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
There needs to be a consequence for those that were released illegally by the Biden administration. There needs to be a consequence for those that get away. We got to send a message to the whole world. It's not okay to enter this country illegally. It's a crime. And if you get due process, a great taxpayer expansion, you get order removed by a judge, you got to leave.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
So I've dealt with the questions yesterday. Well, this mass deportation, it's inhumane, it's racist. No, it's not. When you have massive historical illegal immigration where immigration court data shows nine out of 10 people that claim asylum at the border end up with an order of removal because they simply don't qualify for asylum.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
You can give them due process, but at the end of that due process, if you get a court order saying you got to leave, if we don't execute that order, then what the hell are we doing? Shut down the immigration court. Orders don't mean anything anymore. Take the border control off the border because there's no consequences. No, you can't demand due process. You can't demand to see a judge.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
You can't demand the right to do this. And at the end of that due process, if the final order isn't carried out, then due process means nothing. And it sends a message to the whole world. You can cross the border legally. It's a crime, but don't worry about it. You'll be released. You can cross the border illegally and demand to see a judge. And when you lose your case, no one's looking for you.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
If that's the message we send to the whole world, you're never going to fix this. And the next administration, you're going to see everything turned back around again and we're in trouble once again.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
You know, I believe that, you know, ICE leadership is not in my chain of command. They work for Secretary of Homeland Security. I work with very closely. I know there's been some retirements and there's been some transfers, but that decision is up to the secretary because ICE works for her. I just, you know, we just need strong leadership in there. It's going to push these numbers.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
I think we have a strong acting director in Todd Lyons. The reason I say that, because the men and women of ICE respect leadership that's done the job. You know, for I don't know how long, the last decades, they bring somebody in from the outside, some attorney, somebody that worked the campaign, and they make them the ICE director.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
I like the fact that we got a person that spent decades doing this job, had to respect the men and women in the field because he did the job. When I was ICE director, ICE had the highest morale in the history of the agency.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
Not because Tom Holm was any great guy or any great leader, but they respected the fact that the 20,000 men and women that worked for me, I never asked them to do anything that I didn't do myself because I was one of them. So we have somebody in acting director now, Todd Lyons, who's now, you know, is getting those numbers up. But he's from the inside. He's done the job himself.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
He's worked the streets himself. He's arrested aliens himself. He's processed aliens himself. So he understands the game better than anybody. So I think they got a great leadership team there. You're going to see some switches in leadership as things progress. I mean, every agency does it. The FBI does it. Secret Service does it. You're going to see a change in leadership.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
So I think I'm not going to comment. Do I think they left because the numbers weren't satisfactory? I think Secretary Nolan's making some changes based on what she thinks best for ICE. And I just I just think what my opinion is, whoever runs ICE needs to be a career law enforcement officer who knows the job.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
I think the more we do these operations out there and we put more teams on the street, we send a strong message that if you're in the country illegally, we're looking for you. And you can wait till ICE finds you, arrest you, put you in a van, take you to detention center, then we deport you. Or you can do the common sense thing. You know, do the most humane thing.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
You know, get your affairs in order. Go to the CBB home app or just go to a nice office and let us help you remove. You know, it gives you a chance to get your affairs in order, whether that may be family, property, whatever. And we'll get you a flight home. You'll get some money when you arrive at home.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
And leave yourself the possibility of coming back under a legal program, whether it's, you know, tourist visa, visitor's visa, a work visa, or maybe have a U.S. citizen child here that once they turn 18 can petition for you to come legally as, you know, relative.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
There's a lot of, who knows what other opportunities you may have, but if we're forced to go find you and go through this whole process of great taxpayer expansion, you're formally deported. There are statutory bars from you entering this country again. And they can go five years or 20 years to never, right? So, you know, do things the right way. It's not okay to be in this country illegally.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
You hear it illegally. It's not okay to hurt an illegal alien. You know, because you're undercutting your competition as U.S. citizen employees. So do the right thing. You want to be a part of the greatest nation on earth and do it the right way. Because why they cheated the system and came in the way they did, there are millions of people, literally millions of people standing in line
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
taking their tests, doing a background investigation, paying their fees to be part of the greatest nation on earth. Do things the right way. The cell deportation numbers on the CBP1 app, I think we got a little over 6,000 that have signed up. Need to see more of those. But we got to push more information out, especially in the Spanish language channels throughout the country.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
But I really think the game changer is going to be when we increase these teams that we're doing right now, we've been doing it for the past week, Yes. When they see these operations occurring, when they see this worksite, you know, vastly expanding, people are going to say, okay, well, I can get my affairs in order and do this the right way, or I can wait for ICE to find me.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
I think you're going to see that increase exponentially. I really do. I think you're going to see those self-deports. increase as we ramp up more operations.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
More than I've ever seen. I've been doing this since 1984. And it's a shame because we're trying to prioritize public safety threats and national security threats. And for anybody standing on a megaphone, tell them not to answer the door. You know, you don't have to answer questions. It's just putting your community at greater risk of crime.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
And, you know, we're trying to prioritize public safety threats and national security threats. Well, I tell you, we're stepping up the consequences. So, like, there's a statute that we don't use very much. We're using it now. It's 8 U.S.C. 1253. hindering your own removal.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
So if you don't assist us, if you don't answer our questions, you don't help provide travel documents, you want to hide behind the door, you want to do these things, well, we're going to arrest you. We're going to prosecute you. We're going to get an arrest warrant, then we're going to go in the door, and we're going to arrest you.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
Then we're going to prosecute you, and you're going to go to prison. Then we get out of prison, then we get our hands on you, and you're going to be deported anyways. So these people say, well, we're educating these people as to their constitutional rights. You can claim that. We all know what you're doing. You're educating them on how to evade law enforcement.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
And what you're actually doing is educating them how to get prosecuted. So we're stepping it up. You want to play the game? Game on. But I wish the American people would take a minute to look at it. Go to the ICE website and just look at the great work the men and women of ICE do.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
You know, HSI, they got some significant criminal investigations, you know, child pornography, child trafficking, gun trafficking, you know, drug trafficking, weapons of mass destruction investigations or technology from the United States being stolen and sold to our adversaries across the world that's going to be used against our warfighters.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
Immigration is what's one small portion of what ICE does. I wish people would educate themselves to go out and make it difficult for ICE officers. Being an ICE officer is already dangerous, especially in sanctuary cities, because rather than arresting the bad guy in the safety and security of a jail, now you're going to force us in the community to arrest a guy in his turf?
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
And with all this negative ICE stuff being pushed out by the left and the media and the hatred of ICE, it's... My fear is that one of our officers is not going to go home at night because of the attack, the vilification of ICE agents, and it's just unfair. These men and women, and people need to understand, the men and women at ICE, they're moms and dads too. They have kids too.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
They don't hang their heart on a hook when they leave to go to work that day. They see a lot of dangerous things. ICE has saved more lives. than anybody ever knows. You know, HSI, when they take down a child trafficking investigation, the lives they save, and drug trafficking or gun trafficking, the cartels they've taken out of the loop.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
You know, ERO, the amount of children they've saved from sex trafficking and forced labor, the amount of women they've rescued in sex trafficking. I mean, ICE saves a lot of lives. Do your research. They're American patriots. They got a tough job. Look, immigration enforcement has always been controversial. It's always been emotional since I started in 1984.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
Yes, well, under President Trump's leadership, we are looking to set a goal of a minimum of 3,000 arrests for ICE every day, and President Trump is gonna keep pushing to get that number up higher each and every single day So we can get all of the Biden illegals that were flooded into our country for four years out of our country.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
But the attacks and the vilification on ICE is increasing the risks against these men and women. Matter of fact, I've never seen the amount of doxing being done right now. So the media is saying, here's ICE. Look at these Nazis out on the street wearing masks and picking people off the street, trying to compare them to Nazis.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
Well, they're wearing masks because they're being doxed across the country. And they're trying to protect themselves and their families from this doxing. I can understand that. I get doxed all the time. I accept it because who I am and the position I have. And frankly, I don't care what people think about me, whatever. But the men and women who've put that badge of gun on every day,
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
For the left to attack them the way they have, they're putting them at great risk. They're putting their families at great risk. Because when they're doxing, they're doxing their faces, they're doxing their home addresses, they're doxing their phone numbers. That puts your families at risk. And it's pathetic, it's un-American, and it needs to be prosecuted.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
And thank God we got Pam Bondi as the AG now, who's going to start looking at some of these. And if they cross that line of impediment, she will prosecute, and I applaud her for doing it.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
Well, it's flattering, but I like to see a flag says ICE. God bless ICE and God bless Border Patrol, because I appreciate that. And I'm working hard. But the men and women carrying a badge and gun, they're the ones putting it online every day. Two o'clock this morning, you and I are probably sleeping.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
And these men and women out there are either standing on a dirt trail on the border, taking on criminal cartels or sitting on surveillance in New York City, waiting to rest. you know, a public safety threat, child predators. So I appreciate it, but God bless the men and women, the board to an ice. Cause they're the ones getting done and God best president Trump, president Trump's a game changer.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
I wake up every day, like a kid in a cane historic, and I'm working the greatest president of my lifetime. I don't care if you like him or love him. He is his success on the border, his success on immigration enforcement's unprecedented. And I like being a part of that.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
And we can't take the risk of letting these Biden illegals roam around freely so the next American daughter can get raped. The next American kid can get murdered. The next American family can get splintered and torn apart by people that came into this country unchecked, uncontrolled, unvetted, uninvited by the American people.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
Well, he's being detained. He'll be removed. I mean, he's exactly the priority that President Trump has life's focus on, public safety threats and significant criminal history. And, you know, foolish on him to make a threat against the president. So he's going to add another criminal charge. I mean, Secret Service is investigating that allegation.
The Dan Bongino Show
Here's The Plan To END Trafficking In The US (w/ Tom Homan) | Episode 54
He'll probably end up with another charge on top of the others. And we'll detain him. And as soon as he gets out, he'll be deported. And ICE has made it clear public safety threats are the priority. And Bad decision on his part to make a threat against the president. That's just going to add another felony charge.
The Dan Bongino Show
A Shocking Revelation About What's Coming Next | Episode 35
So the president signed an executive order just this week threatening to defund sanctuary cities for their policies. Why not just arrest leaders who are harboring and shielding illegal aliens, actually terrorists, from deportation?
The Dan Bongino Show
A Shocking Revelation About What's Coming Next | Episode 35
To defund sanctuary cities for their policies, why not just arrest leaders who are harboring and shielding illegal aliens, actually terrorists from deportation?
The Journal.
Trump's Immigration Overhaul
Your days are numbered. My gang's bigger than your gang. And we're going to take you out of the country. We're going to port you out of here.
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1529 - Democrats PANIC After Their Horrifying Money Laundering Scheme Was Revealed
I've gotten hold of it. Won't let it go. We'll look into it. And if he's knowingly harboring, concealing an illegal alien, that's a violation of Title VIII United States Code 1324, I will seek prosecution, or the secretary will seek prosecution. So maybe he's bluffing. If he's not, we'll deal with that.
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1524 - Selena Gomez Should Deport Herself In Solidarity With 'Her People'
We got over 2 million known gotaways. We got a 600% increase in sex trafficking. We got a record number of terrorists crossing the border on the terrorist watch list. We have a quarter million Americans diving fentanyl coming across the open border. We're going to do this job, and we're going to enforce the laws of this country. If they don't like it, then go to Congress and change the law.
The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1524 - Selena Gomez Should Deport Herself In Solidarity With 'Her People'
We're going to do this operational apology. We're going to make our community safer. We're going to save Once we lock that border on continuous operation, you're going to see fentanyl deaths decrease, illegal alien crime decrease, sex trafficking decrease. It's all for the good of this nation, and we're going to keep going. No apologies. We're moving forward.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
Totally. And, you know, I'm shocked that you were shocked that it didn't get reported that way in the media. I mean, we've both been in this game long enough to know that the media is not always going to report everything in a sort of fair and objective way. And this is another example of that. But I think you're right. And look –
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
This is, I think it was important for the Supreme Court to step in here, not just in this case, but the other ones you mentioned, to put some of these lower court judges sort of back in their lane, back in their place. I mean, this has gotten out of control. We've talked about this on our show. The number of nationwide injunctions that have been issued
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
just in the first two months of the Trump administration. And two thirds of all of them that have been issued were issued in the last nine years since Donald Trump took office. So this was a real problem. It had been getting out of control. And I think John Roberts recognized that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
And so I think the Supreme Court was right to step in here and just basically, again, not as you point out with some caveats and there's still some things that to be worked out in the court, but at least to get the system sort of back in balance because it had gotten way out of hand with the way these judges had been just sort of trumping, no pun intended, all of Trump's policies at a national level.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
It's just ridiculous.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
43.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
Well, the numbers suggest that it's not. And Of all the issues that people are polling on right now, the economy, inflation, foreign policy, he's got the highest marks on immigration, and in part because of the work that he's done, I think, securing the border and deporting folks. So we'll see. Does it become a problem if more cases like this arise? Maybe.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
But right now, I think – I know it does – look, Carl, we talked about this on our show, the students that – Tufts University and some of these other folks. And again, part of this too, Megan, is I don't think we're – as the public, we're not getting enough good information about exactly who these people are, what they may have done, what they're accused of.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
And I think the administration could actually do a better job of being a little bit more transparent because – If we just rely on the mainstream media to inform us, I think we will end up being – thinking to ourselves, my gosh, the administration has totally overstepped their bounds and they're just taking people off the street. Oh, yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
I don't have to worry about that, so –
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
Well, I was just going to say, and look, a lot of this is we have arrived at this place where Trump has the support to do this, the majority support across the board, even in cases where we're not holding hearings or whatever, because of what Biden did.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
I mean, this is a clear reaction to four years of Joe Biden just throwing open the borders and denying it to the American people, saying, oh, the border's safe. It's not a problem. It's not a crisis. And then also, once the folks are here, denying that Actual crimes were – Lake and Riley and what was going on in Aurora, Colorado with the gangs and the like.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
And so the American people just completely fed up with it and they wanted action taken and that's what Trump – that's what he ran on. That's what he's doing and that's why he's still got majority support.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
Well, she actually she actually knows how to handle a gun, as we know, from not just cricket, but, you know, from South Dakota pheasant hunting and the like. I mean, just cricket. Yeah. She shot a gun, too. But, you know, look, I totally agree with you. And I'll forgive her the first, you know, I guess when she went out on this on this, you know, raid or whatever.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
I think a lot of Trump officials wanted to show that they were sort of taking action and show themselves in action. They're actually responding. They're not just sitting behind a desk. Pete Hegseth went and worked out with the troops and things of that nature. And so I think that was serving a purpose.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
But, you know, standing at the prison again in front of all those guys, I mean, that was ridiculous. This one's ridiculous. And ironically, she's, you know, Trump hires or hired a lot of his people. He likes people who have media experience, who can go on TV and handle questions from the mainstream media folks and the like.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
And so I think maybe she thinks that this is what Trump wants, to see her and for her to be out front and making headlines and being in the newspapers. But to your point, I think it's a bit over the top and not doing her or the administration any favors with these, the way that they're just sort of comically staged. Yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
Yeah, I mean... It's it's definitely the way that this has gone, the hysteria that's gone surrounded this over the last week or so with the market, you know, the way it's gone down can't be positive for Trump.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
I mean, it just I'm sure his supporters are going to be, you know, when you look at the internals of these polls, most Republicans are going to stick with him on this and give him at least the benefit of the doubt and see how this plays out over the coming weeks and months. But and Democrats, you know, they hate him. They'll always hate him. They hate him for this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
even though some of them actually supported tariffs not too long ago. But we'll leave that aside for now. But I think independents are probably being, you know, this creates a lot of anxiety and nervousness. And and, you know, so I think it's probably a drag on his numbers overall. If you look at his readings on the economy and inflation, they are underwater. And again, that was the issue.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
Yeah. And so he's he needs to, you know, I think this is another thing about the administration. When you talk about Doge, you talk about this. I think the administration, you know, they could have benefited from prepping the public for what, you know, and saying, look, here's the problem. Right. Lay it out and say, OK, here's what we're going to do about it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
you know, on this date, we're going to impose these tariffs and then we're going to negotiate and we're going to do this. And that, um, could have done the same with Doge. Instead, they're just breaking stuff.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
And there's a, there's a benefit to that, but there's also the downside to that, which is that, you know, you get reactions from the media, you get reactions from Democrats, uh, things are portrayed, uh, If mistakes are made, those become bigger. And so in that sense, they just went ahead with the tariffs. I don't think the public was really prepared for what happened afterwards.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
And now they're trying to play catch up on the public relations aspect of this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
Yeah, I saw that clip of him, and that's obviously a good message for the administration. But he also said in another clip, I think it was this morning, it might have been on Maria's show, when he was talking about tariffs with the Chinese, he was like, listen, we import five times more right, than China imports of our goods. So they're the surplus country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So they can raise their tariffs all they want. Who gives a shit, right? We're going to, we are the country that had, we have the leverage and the Trump administration is willing to use it. I mean, this is like a high stakes poker game where they're shoving chips in, I'll raise you, no, I'll raise you back. But we have more chips than they do. They cannot stay with us if we continue to do this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Now, is it going to cause pain? Perhaps. I mean, the other concern that people are talking about is, is this going to, you know, if we're, you know, If we're getting after Vietnam and some of these other countries, is that going to drive them into the arms of the Chinese and away from us? Those, I think, are legitimate questions. But at the end of the day, I mean, I think Kevin O'Leary is right.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About SCOTUS and Trump, EPA Fraud Uncovered, and Tariff Drama, with Lee Zeldin, Tom Bevan, and Carl Cannon | Ep. 1045
We have been – and this is what Trump has been saying for a long time. We've been taken advantage of by the Chinese in particular for so long. We've just come to accept that that's the sort of normal course of things. And so finally we're saying – even as they have cheated and stolen, not just IP, but the way they dump products, they manipulate their currency.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I mean, they do a whole host of things which are really underhanded and not what you want in a legitimate trading partner. And so we're trying to reset this. And I think if we can do it, if the Trump administration can do it, it'll be a huge win for the country in the medium and long term.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Right, and there is this disconnect between folks in the media and certainly the Democrats when they say, well, I don't think that this is what Trump voters voted for. They're having buyer's remorse and then you talk to a Trump voter, they're like, this is exactly what I voted for and I would vote for it again. you know, twice if I could. I mean, they love what he's doing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And that number about he has taken a completely different approach. It is a different political environment that he was in, obviously, in 2016. He's got better people around him. The machinery around him is more efficient. He knows what he's doing. They've been executing at a rapid pace. And because I Look, at some point, he is going to be a lame duck, right?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I mean, that's just a fact, unless he ends up amending the Constitution and getting a third term. But then that moment is rapidly approaching, especially if Democrats manage to take control of the House next November. So he is trying to get a lot done, and as much and as fast as he can do. And as Harry pointed out, and as the polls show, by and large, the public is with him.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And he has a lot more leeway this time around than he did in his first term.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Well, yeah, Trump obviously has a way with words, but I mean, he is right about the fact that Illinois is suffering. It's suffering. Chicago, largest city, obviously, is in not great shape. And J.B. Pritzker has been in office for two terms now. And- thinks of himself as presidential material and he has portrayed himself as this guy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I'm going to be, Illinois is going to be the refuge for, you know, abortions and all the folks, the LGBTQ folks, like we're leaning into the woke stuff. Meanwhile, you know, uh, people are fleeing, taxes are high. Um, and, and it just hasn't been a great, uh, situation for, for the state of Illinois, but nevertheless, I mean, to me, Pritzker is one of those guys who,
The Megyn Kelly Show
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That is sort of a classic example of a guy who was born on third base and thought he hit a triple. Right. He really hasn't distinguished himself. If you look at the statistics in the state and yet he is constantly mentioned as one of the top tier candidates for the Democrats in twenty twenty eight. So we'll see how that plays out.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Here's what they're doing, Bill. Here's the plan. The Biden administration overwhelmed the system. 10.5 million people came to the border. They know it's going to take years to get through the court docket. By then, they're hoping there's another Democratic administration in. They'll have U.S. citizen children. Then all of a sudden, nobody wants them removed.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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We're spoiling their plans to have future Democratic voters and through a census have control of the House to, through a census vote, Democratic, sanctuary cities get more seats in the House.
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This is their plan to the immigration courts to appeal after appeal after appeal, district judge, district judge, to slow us down because their hopes is they'll gain power again, then they can warrant amnesty to 10 million illegal aliens that are released in this country illegally.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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That is their plan, and we're trying to remove these public safety threats and national security threats as quick as possible.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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The morale of ICE and Border Patrol is at an all-time high. because they're getting to uphold the oath they took, and they're enforcing the law. Border Patrol and the Biden administration, I met with hundreds of them. They felt like Uber drivers and tourist agents.
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These men and women joined the ranks of ICE and Border Patrol to enforce the law and make the community safer and protect national security.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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On the headline, that's a misleading headline, okay? Three U.S. citizens, ages 4, 7, and 2, were not deported. Their mothers, who are legally in this country, were deported. The children went with their mothers. If those children are U.S. citizens, they can come back into the United States if there's their father or someone here who wants to assume them.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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What we did is remove children with their mothers who requested the children depart with them. This was a parental decision. Parenting 101. The mothers made that choice. And I tell you what, if we didn't do it, the story today would be the Trump administration separating families again. No, we're keeping families together.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So when a parent says, I want my two-year-old baby to go with me, we made that happen. They weren't deported. We don't deport U.S. citizens. The parents made that decision, not the United States government.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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There are thousands of, tens of thousands of people in the world that really are escaping fear and persecution from the Holman government because of race, religion, political affiliation, that are sitting in the back seat. So these are the systems we need to fix to drive illegal immigration to an all-time low in this nation.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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No, it's been discussed. It's an option. We're looking at what the pros and cons are. But you're right. It would save the taxpayers some money. And there are other things, you know, helping them get their affairs together, you know, given a window of 30 days, the non-immigrants, non-criminals to put their affairs together and supply transportation back to their homeland.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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There's also talk about creating real opportunity zones in those countries. So when they go back, they're going back to a job. differently than every other administration though. We got to make sure the money goes to the right people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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This has been done, billions and billions of dollars being sent to these countries to create opportunity zones so that people don't feel like I leave the country, come back. That money doesn't get where it needs to go because of corruption of government officials and so forth. So that needs to be drilled down on the Department of State. We're talking about this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
So what you just said, there's discussions going on. I'm looking at pros and cons of what may work best, but it's not off the table. We're thinking about it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And they should, because I think what's happened on the southern border and even Christopher Wray from not buddies would by any means, even he agrees with me that the open southern border is the biggest national security vulnerability this nation has ever seen. We know we had over 2 million known gotaways. These people were captured on video, drone traffic, or central traffic.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
We know they're here. It's not a guess. We got images. Over 2 million people crossed the border and got away. They paid more to get away. They didn't pay the cartels less money because cartels were charged one fee to get to the border. You see a green uniform, turn yourself in, cartel's job ends.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Well, if you want to get away, you want to get to New York, Chicago, or into the United States without being arrested or processed, that costs a hell of a lot more money. So the American people need to ask themselves, why did 2 million people pay more to get away?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Why not pay less and get a free airline ticket to the city of your choice, get a free hotel room, get three meals a day, get free medical care, and get work authorization within 90, 120 days? Why would you pay more not to take advantage of the giveaway program? Because they don't want to be fingerprinted. They don't want to be vetted.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Hey, thanks for having me. I'm a big fan. I've been following you. You're a Stone Cold Patriot, so I'm happy to be here today.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
We've arrested, there's been a 3,500, 3,500% increase in people on terrorists whilst us being arrested at the border. How many?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And terror watch list suspects being arrested on the border. Under Trump administration, four years, we had 14. There were 400. And that's just the Southern border. So... It's a huge national security vulnerability, so I think DOD is doing exactly what they should do. It's a national security issue. They need to secure this country and protect our national security.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
And so I said from day one, they're a great asset, right, because they can do things that don't require an immigration authority, immigration officer that has a badge and gun. Transportation, for instance. We can take ICE officers who have immigration enforcement authority out of a bus or out of a plane and Let DOD do that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
That releases more immigration officers to the streets, the rest of the bad guy. They can help us with infrastructure. Down there in Constantino, we're having border barriers. They're doing denial of entry. So they're being a great asset. I've done this since 1984. I started in Borbato since 1984. This weekend, for the first time in my life, I saw an Army plane
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
a military plane, removing inland and southbound. That was a beautiful sight because it says all of the government, all of the government is going to increase the national security of this nation and secure that border. Secure border saves lives. Secure border helps increase the level of national security we need in this nation.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
There's a lot of people in this world who want to hurt us, and securing that border and removing the bad guys is going to help us be more safe.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
It's very, the job's already dangerous. I was in one shooting in the Border Patrol back in 1987. Only time I ever had to do something like that. Most agents don't get involved in a shooting. But as I've told the White House, it's going to get worse. The criminal cartels in Mexico, no one celebrated the President Biden's election more than they did because they knew they were back in business.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
They're making a record amount of money in sex trafficking women and children. They're making a record amount of money smuggling aliens. They're making a record amount of money moving dope in the country, especially if I know it. President just designated terrorist organizations because he's going to wipe them off the face of the earth just like he did the caliphate, right, the ISIS.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
He destroyed them. They need to be destroyed because they've killed more Americans than every terrorist organization in the world combined. They're not going to go away quietly. There's going to be more. We're hitting them where it hurts, in the pocketbook. They don't have the money. They can't pay off the Mexican military.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
They can't pay off the Mexican politicians and the judges and the prosecutors. So taking their money away is angering them. We're going to put them out of business. They're going to fight. They're going to go down fighting. And they've already got access to military-grade weapons. They have no sense of life and respect of life. There's going to be more violence on the southern border.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
So I go to bed every night hoping that the men and women wearing that uniform go home safely to their families. But it's only a matter of time until that violence increases, which means we got to give, again, put 100% focus on these cartels to put them out of business, shut them down. Mexico's not going to do it. I know I get in trouble by saying that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Mexico hasn't dealt with them in three decades. And it's going to take the United States to put the cartels out of business permanently. So we got to get that done quickly.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Well, look, she's famous as Lyle Follows. I wish she'd messaged Mexico and other countries that this isn't a way to enter the country illegally, right? A quarter of an American is dead from fentanyl that comes across that border. I'm sure many fans of hers, a 600% increase in sex trafficking in women and children. There are women and children in this nation right now forced into sexual slavery.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
No, I think we're beyond 4,000 as of today, but I don't have the exact numbers with me. But look, you said it right. We're operating throughout the country, concentrating on exactly what you said, public safety threats and national security threats. And there's some collateral arrests, but that's what you got to expect in sanctuary cities. We can't arrest a bad guy in the jail.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Some of these children won't survive. So cry for them. Cry for the quarter million Americans that died for fentanyl. Cry for the families of thousands of families in this nation who had a family, a permanent separation of their children because they were killed by illegal animals and they buried them. Help us secure the border, save lives. Send a message out.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
This is not the way to come across the border. Under Joe Biden, a record number of Americans have died because of open border policy with Fentanyl. A record number of aliens have died crossing the border. 4,000, historic number of people have died crossing this border. So if you want to help, if you want to cry, cry for those who have suffered because of the open border crisis.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
If you want to save women and children, cry. Tell them not to come. Don't put themselves in the arms of criminal cartels and be sexually assaulted, abused, and killed. If you want to cry, cry for the victims of an open border. I've said this 100 times. Open borders kills, I just said it, kills a record amount of Americans, a record amount of migrants. But you know what?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
A secure border saves lives. When President Trump had illegal immigration down 90%, when 90% less people were coming, how many women did get raped by the cartels? How many children didn't drown in that river? How many Americans didn't die from fentanyl because the border was tight and secure and the border was all on table? How many children weren't found in pornographic movies in sex slavery?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
How many women weren't forced into sexual slavery at massage parlor throughout this country? How many cartel members didn't make it into this country to spread their poison throughout the nation? Thousands of people died because of open borders. So help us. You got a big platform. Help us save lives. Secure border saves lives. Those who enter the country legally, they're cheaters.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
As I said, there's people in this world who are doing the right thing to come to the country the right way. These people are taking a front seat away from people who really deserve to come to this country. Help us to send that message. A secure border saves lives. That's where she should be putting her anger, her sadness, everything else. Help us. We can save lives together.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Well, I shed plenty of tears on that incident. That incident changed me forever. And I've held many dying children. I've held dead children. I've talked to little girls as young as nine. When you get on your knees, you talk to a little girl at nine years old that was raped multiple times by a member of the cartel. And you get a look in her eyes and everything innocent and pure happens.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
We got to go to the neighborhood and find him. If he's with others, others that may not be a criminal priority, but they're in the country legally, they're coming too. So we've arrested a lot of bad guys. A lot of public safety threats are taken off the streets. So Chicago, New York, Denver, they're all safer cities today because of what ICE and numerous agencies, right?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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everything innocent and pure in her life has been stolen and her life will never be the same. That's why I fight so hard. People, while you and I are talking right now, Megan, women are being raped by members of the cartels as part of the people crossing that border. A child will die on the border tonight. So, you know, I take this job seriously because of what I've seen in my 34 years.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And for the folks out there that hate me, If you wore my shoes for 34 years, you'd understand the passion. You'd understand why I think a secure border saves lives. So, you know, I wrote a book, Secure Border Saves Lives. And I meant what I said. And that's based on my experience of all the death that occurs on that border. The sexual assault of women.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Think about some nine-year-old little girl, grown men crawling on her, taking everything innocent and pure from her. Her life will never be the same. And that happens every day. Secure the border to save lives. President Trump's promised American people are going to secure the border, and we're going to save a whole bunch of lives.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
We're going to save a whole bunch of women being sexually assaulted. We're going to save a whole bunch of Americans dying from fentanyl. We're going to save a lot of U.S. citizens that aren't going to be victims of illegal immigrant crime. The president Trump has the right idea. He's like, he's like the, he's like the Pentagon and I'm like the field general. He has great vision.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Him and Steve Miller, Steve Miller is brilliant. They're helping me. They gave me the tools to do this with. I'm out there making sure those tools are implemented and we save this country and make this country safer.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
I've been pissed off for four years. Every morning I get up, I'm pissed off. And people ask me, I got an airplane flight in Dallas just before the election. And the captain met me in the galley and said, I've got to ask you a question. I love you, I love Trump. Because me and my wife wondered, why are you always so angry when you're testifying in front of Congress?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
And why are you so angry in your Fox interviews? I said, I am. I'm angry and I'm pissed off because we had this lockdown. And as I said earlier, when President Trump has You know, illegal immigration on 90%. How many women weren't being raped? How many Americans didn't die from fentanyl? How many women and children were in sex trafficking? And they unleashed it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I knew when Biden became president, I knew he was going to destroy everything we did, the most secure border in my lifetime, and open it up, which means more women are going to be raped, more Americans are going to die, more rapes, more sexual slavery. So I've been angry for four years that any commander in chief would come into office and unsecure a border on purpose.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
I worked for six presidents starting with Ronald Reagan. Every president I worked for, even Clinton Obama, took steps to secure the border. They clearly understood you can't have national security if you don't have border security. Joe Biden's the first president in the history of the nation who came into office and unsecured the border on purpose. So I was four years pissed off.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
We've got DEA, FBI, ATF, U.S. Marshals, HSI, ERO. So a lot of these cities are safer today, but we're not done. We're just getting started.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
The night of the election, I wasn't more alive with the president. That's the first morning I woke up excited that we're going to save lives. And I couldn't wait to get back. Matter of fact, when the president did call me, I was the first person he called. I think I was his first election. He called me up. His first words were, No, you've been bitching about it for four years.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
You ready to come fix it? Of course not. And took a huge face cut, but I'm glad I'm back. We're going to save lives. We're already saving lives. What we did in Chicago, I was in Chicago the other day, that city is safer because of ICE and the law enforcement agencies, and we're going to keep doing it. There's no end to this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
This time, we're going to get back to the secure border we had, but this time we finished the job.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Exactly right. Look, ICE is really good at this. These people don't want to be found, but there's ways to find them. I can't speak to the specifics because the law enforcement is sensitive, but they could have found these people last year, but the administration simply tied ICE's hands. And first time in the history of my career, starting back in 1984, ICE had handcuffs on them.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
So President Trump, he kept his promise to American people. We cut ice loose day one. Day one, we're out there. And they're able to go arrest targets they could have arrested the last four years but weren't allowed to. But we've opened that aperture and they're out doing the job now.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Actually, I think it's going to be easier. The reason I say it's easier because criminals... They're street smart. They know how to hide. They know how to play the game. They don't cat and mouse game.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
But as we open that aperture up, as we look for the 1.4 million illegal aliens in this country who had due process at great taxpayer expense, they've been ordered removed by federal judge, but simply didn't leave. They're not as street savvy as the criminals are. So I think the arrest will increase as the aperture widens.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
But again, we want to take every public safety threat, every gang member off the streets. So we're really concentrating on that right now. But the aperture will open and the operation will expand throughout the nation.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Over 600,000 illegal aliens are walking the streets of this country with a criminal conviction. So we have a big tranche that we need to go find. So there's no lack of business. And that is why President Trump's vision was all of government. That's why we have DOD with us standing shoulder to shoulder soldiers on the border. That's why we have DEA, FBI, ATF, U.S.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Marshals helping on these operations throughout the cities because the more resources we get from the other agencies, the more teams we can create. Each team, you only need one or two people with immigration enforcement authority, Title VIII authority, to actually make the arrest legally.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
To arrest someone can be law enforcement officers that cover the back door, address officer safety concerns, because it takes a whole team to arrest somebody on their turf where they have access to who knows what weapons. So it's just exactly what we're doing. We're not hiding it. I mean, I've been talking about this since day one. We're out there. We're not going to apologize for doing it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
All the government approach, it makes sense. Especially, I just got back from Chicago. I actually was up there on that operation. And it was great to see. We find the alien with dope. We got DEA to prosecute his case. We found TDA members with guns. We get ATF to prosecute the case. And of course, ICE, they prosecuted their own immigration rather than re-entry at the deportation, which is a felony.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
But having all those resources at the table, Not only are we arresting the bad guys, we're criminally prosecuting them first, then we'll deport them.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Exactly. Thanks for the cities, these politicians. I don't care what they say. I don't care what they think of me. I've never cared what people think of me. I'm going to do the job. And you can fearmonger all you want and call me all the names you want. I'm going to get this job done for the president who's given a mandate by American people. So continue the hate. I'm okay with that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
If I get to live in their minds rent-free, that's kind of cool. But look, the whole thing in Chicago, you got the governor Pritzker on social media. talking about ICE agents raiding an elementary school. And he says, I'm putting fear in the community? What a ridiculous statement to make.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
As a governor, you think he'd make a phone call and ask on the truth on this because he's the one that's scaring the immigrant community. He's the one that's scaring children and thinking we're going to raid elementary schools. Look, I've made it clear. We have taken a sense of location policy and flushed it down the toilet. Why? Because ICE is the only law enforcement agency in the nation
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
who had these type of requirements. We can't operate in a hospital or a school or other central, a courthouse, for God's sakes, right? I've been in courthouses many times throughout my career, and I watched a father getting arrested in a courthouse for not paying child support, but you're not gonna let ICE in a courthouse arrest a public safety threat or a national security threat?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Totally ridiculous. And as I said last night during my interview with CNN, there is no safe harbor for a national security threat or public safety threat in this country. If they're on a college campus, we're going to go get them. If it's an MS-13 gang member that's sitting in a high school someplace and he's a significant public safety threat, he's going to be arrested. So there's no safe harbor.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
There's no sanctuary for criminals, public safety threats and national security threats in this country. And that's why we got rid of that sense of location policy. No one's going to raid a school. No one's going to raid a hospital. But we will make arrests when we need to on a significant case.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
No, they don't owe me an apology. They owe the men and women of ICE an apology. It's like I hear last night, I forget who it was, talking about the Holocaust and connecting us with the Holocaust. For God's sakes, what a sickening thing to say. Men and women of ice aren't making this up. They're enforcing the laws enacted by Congress. And I can't, I find it hard to believe that Congress is,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
enacting laws and passing laws they don't want to enforce. Not only are they enacting the laws that tell ICE what to do, they're budgeting. They give us the money to do that. So they owe the men and women of ICE an apology. Because men and women of ICE put their lives on the line every day across this country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
They put a gun on their head, they wear a Kevlar vest, they're out there taking on the bad guys. And it's already a dangerous job. With sanctuary cities, it's even more dangerous, because now, rather than arresting The bad guy in a jail where we know he doesn't have weapons, we know it's a safe transfer. Now we've got to go to the streets and find him because of sanctuary cities.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
So all the risks that these ICE agents take and all the other agencies that are involved, DEA, FBI, ATF, the rest of them, they deserve the apology because if they did anything in Chicago, I was there. We didn't scare children. We saved children.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
At the last count, when I left that command center, we had like seven sexual predators, mostly child sexual predators, that we took off the streets of Chicago. So ICE protected children. We're not out there to demonize them or scare the hell out of them. We protected children. And Governor Pritzker,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
You put the children at risk because not only did you lie about going to elementary school, you released sexual predators of children back on the streets to reoffend. ISIS-saving children, Governor Pritzker has put them at great risk.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Well, there's a lot of plans in the works. I'm working on a lot of plans, a lot of strategies. But we've got to bring, like I said, the whole government to the table, right? We've got 3,000 sheriffs across this country that we can easily delegate authority, give them 287G authority, both the jail model and the task force model. That is a huge force multiplier, right?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
So if we can give them 287G authority and they can act as ICE agents. Every county in this country, those deputies could not only arrest illegal aliens based on a database check thing and simply run through our law enforcement support center, they can actually do 287G jail models, which means everybody that goes books in the jail. That's what 287G is. It's colorblind.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Every person that's booked into jail, if I get arrested and I get booked into jail, my prints will be run through NCIC. At the same time, they're running against DHS databases. So if I have any history with it, Border Patrol or ICE, it's going to pop up. And if the 287G train facilities, they can actually process that person, hold them for immigration holdings. and we can arrest them.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
So we can certainly expand immigration enforcement throughout the country. That's one plan. Another plan is we need to be out there messaging to the illegal immigrant community that, look, if you're in the country illegally and you haven't received a deportation order yet, or you haven't been arrested yet, you need to leave the country. Because if you don't,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
If we have to put you in the court and get a formal order removal, there's a bar that's put on you. So whether it's from anywhere from five to 20 years that you can't reenter this country, you can't get a business visa, you can't get a tourist visa. If you have a U.S. citizen child here, he can't petition for you. So you are locked out.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
So if you're here illegally and don't have an order of removal yet, leave. Do things the right way. If you have a U.S. citizen child, they can petition for you down the road. But we need to keep pushing that message out. We also at South Depot, we need to push worksite enforcement.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Number one reason they cover it, look, 9 out of 10 people that come to the board that claim asylum, 9 out of 10 is actually 86.7%. People that claim asylum at the border will get an order of removal because they simply don't qualify for asylum. They're coming here for a job or a better life. And I get that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
But they're not escaping fear and persecution from their home government because of race, religion, political affiliation. So that 9 out of 10 are here for a job. Worksite enforcement, we're going to hit that hard. So we're going to arrest a lot of people at worksites. We need I-9s. We need to e-verify and I-9 enforcement. Congress needs to get to the table. The American people have spoken.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
This is a clear mandate to the president. Passive verify. If they can't get a job, they're going to go home. So there's all these different programs we're going to throw in place to help us get to that magic number of getting to the non-criminals. Because if there's no consequences, if they don't see people coming home, they're going to keep coming.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
They need to see plane loads of illegal aliens being returned to the homeland to let them know the border's closed. If you want to come to the country, there's a right way and a wrong way. go the right way because there are millions of people standing in line right now, taking their tests, doing their background, paying their fees to come to the United States the right way.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump vs. Judge on Alien Enemies Act Escalates, Biden Autopen Questions, Putin Call: AM Update 3/18
Well, actually, we did comply with his written order on five aliens that he didn't want deported. And we complied with that. But look, you know, I agree with Carolyn. I don't think I have authority to have a plane of terrorists turn around in the middle of international waters and bring terrorists back into this country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump vs. Judge on Alien Enemies Act Escalates, Biden Autopen Questions, Putin Call: AM Update 3/18
It's not as old as the Constitution. We still pay attention to that, don't we?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump vs. Judge on Alien Enemies Act Escalates, Biden Autopen Questions, Putin Call: AM Update 3/18
This campaign is about freedom of navigation and restoring deterrence. The minute the Houthis say, we'll stop shooting at your ships, we'll stop shooting at your drones, this campaign will end. But until then, it will be unrelenting.
The Megyn Kelly Show
CBS vs. Free Speech, Elon Baby Drama, and Shocking Plane Crash, with Michael Knowles, Matt Taibbi, and Walter Kirn | Ep. 1009
Well, thank you. Hey, now, speaking of church, can I say something? If more folks went to church, we wouldn't be in this mess we're in now. You know what? I agree with you, Doug. I'd like to shake your hand, sir. Here we go. Oh, no, no.
The Megyn Kelly Show
CBS vs. Free Speech, Elon Baby Drama, and Shocking Plane Crash, with Michael Knowles, Matt Taibbi, and Walter Kirn | Ep. 1009
Oh, well, all right. Well, thank you, my brother. You know, maybe I'll start a show for you to come on, and we'll call it What jeopardy?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Budget Battle Escalates, DHS Launches Self-Deport App, Trudeau Officially Replaced: AM Update 3/11
We're out of money. I mean, we'll run out of beds in two weeks. I mean, we're at about 46,000 in custody now. We ought to be about 65,000 at this point in time. And when we run out of beds, as soon as we stop interior enforcement operations, because when we arrest somebody, we've got to have a bed to put them in for removal.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Budget Battle Escalates, DHS Launches Self-Deport App, Trudeau Officially Replaced: AM Update 3/11
So Congress does, and they need to get us the funding we need so this administration can keep the promises they made to American people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Budget Battle Escalates, DHS Launches Self-Deport App, Trudeau Officially Replaced: AM Update 3/11
We're out of money. I mean, we'll run out of beds in two weeks.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Raising Mentally Strong Kids, with Dr. Daniel Amen, and Inside the Tragic "Rust" Set Shooting, with Rachel Mason | Ep. 1039
But, and I would fire that little charge. It's called a squib that would send blood flying. And my first thought, I looked down at my hand at the button and I thought to myself, why the hell did we squib her? That was just my first thought. I saw this and I looked down and there was no button. Then that's when I said, oh my God, she's been shot.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's China Decision, Potential Tax Increase For Rich, Elon Steps Back from DOGE: AM Update 4/24
We're trying to remove these public safety threats, national security threats as quick as possible. They're putting every roadblock imaginable in front of us to prevent us from doing that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's China Decision, Potential Tax Increase For Rich, Elon Steps Back from DOGE: AM Update 4/24
Here's what they're doing. Here's the plan. The Biden administration overwhelmed the system. Ten point five million people came to the border. They know it's going to take years to get through the court docket. By then, they're hoping there's another Democratic administration and they'll have U.S. citizen children. Then all of a sudden, nobody wants to remove them.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's China Decision, Potential Tax Increase For Rich, Elon Steps Back from DOGE: AM Update 4/24
When they detain them, they get a hearing in 35 days. They released them. Now it's going to take five to seven years.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's China Decision, Potential Tax Increase For Rich, Elon Steps Back from DOGE: AM Update 4/24
They're going to keep playing this game to the immigration courts through appeal after appeal after appeal, district judge, district judge, to slow us down because their hopes is they'll gain power again, then they can warrant amnesty to 10 million illegal aliens that are released in this country illegally.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's China Decision, Potential Tax Increase For Rich, Elon Steps Back from DOGE: AM Update 4/24
That is their plan, and we're trying to remove these public safety threats and national security threats as quick as possible. They're putting every roadblock imaginable in front of us to prevent us from doing that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Thanks. Good to be with you.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
I agree with that. And Clarence Thomas had said during these hearings that the country got along just fine without nationwide injunctions until 1960. These are a relatively new phenomenon, and they've happened a lot more since Trump took office in 2016, 2017. And I think –
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Some of the numbers on that is I think something like 75% of the national injunctions have been against Donald Trump just in the last 10 years. So this is a problem that has cropped up recently that is now being dealt with, and I agree with you. I think the way this has gone so far, it looks decent for Trump, but it probably is going to be pretty close.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
General, when were the first universal injunctions used?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
So we survived until the 1960s without universal injunctions.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Yeah, I think... What's interesting about this to me is also the fact that this is really very important for progressives because this is sort of one of the last levers they have left is these courts. They have no control in the Hill. You know, the party's in disarray. So they've really relied on the courts to sort of do their, do what they want. And as you pointed out, this is not just a Trump.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Trump isn't the first president, I'll put it this way, who doesn't like presidential, doesn't like these injunctions. So it's not just like this sort of, every executive doesn't like the fact that anybody messes with what they're trying to do, let alone sort of local courts. So, yeah. It is being framed narrowly, as you say, about this sort of what seems like a procedural question.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
And it'll be interesting to see when they get to the substance of it, if they ever do get to the substance of it, how they rule. Because that's a constitutional case that I think would be a lot harder for the president to make.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Oh, absolutely. There's no question. I mean – and you made a really important point there, which is part of how this has gone is that they're shopping. They're judge shopping, right? The Democrats and the progressives, they go around and they find judges who they know are sympathetic to their cases. And so that's part of it. And the argument is –
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
that the administration is making is look, these judges can only issue injunctions for the people who come before them. They can't make these blanket statements nationwide. And that would also curtail this effort that the way the Democrats have found to effectively use the courts to thwart Trump's agenda nationally. And so it is a very important case.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
It's gonna be a very important ruling in that respect.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Well, I'll tell you one thing. There is one person, at least, who is very happy with this week's coverage, and that's the publisher of Jake Tapper's book, because this publicity has been great. This is the third book, I think, that's come out just in the last 30 days or so about this topic, and it's the one that's getting the most coverage.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Part of that is because Jake Tapper wrote it, and he's so prominent and well-known, and because of this sort of strange situation Because he's on television, I think, in part, there's a lot of focus on his personal coverage. There's this great clip of him talking to Laura Trump on CNN where Laura Trump is... We have it, Andrew.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Well, yeah, that's the clip that he can't live down, I think. So I like these books. I plan to read all of them. And Jake's comes out, I think, later this week. It hits Tuesday. Yeah, but I'm glad you're going to be talking to him because I do think he's got some explaining to do. I think it's a problem, too, if you step back from it. And we're going to talk about this on our podcast.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
There's a problem for all those politicians who are very close to Biden during this period, the Democrats. I mean, if you're Pete Buttigieg and you're in the cabinet, how do you explain this? That you want to be president. This is a story that's going to sort of dog him. It's going to dog Kamala Harris.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Not so much if you're a governor running from the outside, but I think this is going to be sort of a litmus test. I think that the presidential primaries are pretty nasty. And I think the Democrats are going to go after one another on this very topic. And I think if you're inside the cabinet or close to the president, you might have some real answering to do. And people will use that against them.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
I mean, there are just so many, so many things about this that require more investigation. And I hope you play that clip for Jake Tapper and have him respond to it. And there were other instances. Look, when the Hurt Report came out, you know, Democrats and folks in the media they had people on to rebut that, that Wall Street Journal piece that you talked about.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Did anyone have those Wall Street Journal reporters on their shows or did they just have the surrogates for Biden come on to say, oh, this is, you know, wave it away. And remember, I mean, this is, you mentioned this, the public knew early on and the polling on this was pretty clear that people were concerned about his age and his mental decline. We all knew it. And so, and remember,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Up until if that debate had not happened or if Joe Biden had not had a bad debate that night, this whole charade would have continued all the way through Election Day. I mean, Democrats, you know, the staffers would have kept lying. The media would have kept reporting it and saying, oh, he's fine. But we know now that he wasn't fine for a long time.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
And oh, by the way, he stayed in the job as president United States for six more months. And they're trying to argue now that, well, he was just – yeah, he had some mental decline, but he was really effective at doing the job. And I mentioned this the other day. I mean that just is total BS. There's no way that you can cordon off and say, well, he had these mental decline issues, but –
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
You know, he was on top of the job when he was doing, you know, taking 3 a.m. phone calls on matters of national security. I mean, just it doesn't even pass the smell test. So, look, there's a lot that and I know it's fine for Jake Tapper to say he's been humbled and he's going to approach this with humility.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
But I just have no confidence that him or the media writ large would not do this exactly again or wouldn't, as I said, wouldn't have continued it had that debate not happened.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Well, I would guess if there were eight people in the room, you'd have eight different stories.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Yeah, and it sounds like a scene out of Veep, you know, like where there's always the aide who's like whispering in her ear saying, you know, the fact about whoever she's going to meet next. So, look, I think it has the ring of truth to it. And he's on the record, so you've got to give him that. I mean, he's – so I don't know. I mean, who knows what really happened in the room.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
I haven't read the book, so I can't really comment on the report.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Can we just say, though, I think Alex Thompson was a little better on his coverage than Tapper was.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
I'm sorry, go ahead.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Absolutely. I mean, there's just no question. And we don't have an understanding of exactly who was running the country, how much Biden was in charge, how much auto pen was used, what was done in his name that he knew or didn't know. And that is a massive scandal.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
I mean, if you just take a step back and you look at the scope of this thing, I mean, this is the biggest scandal maybe in political history, certainly of the modern era. I mean, nothing even comes close in my mind. And the media was part of it. I you know, that fundraiser, George Clooney comes out and that was the whole cheap fakes thing, right? He's standing there on stage.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
He has no clue where he is. Barack Obama has to grab his arm and lead him off stage. And everybody, again, the entire country watches that and is horrified by it. And the White House comes out and said, these are cheap fakes. This is, you know, this is a cheap fake. And that was dutifully reported by everyone in the media, including CNN.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
And so they don't get a pass in my book for any of that that happened. But it is a, There's a lot more that we need to know about exactly what happened because I think this is just a huge scandal.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Well, I would just say that this is trolling of such a high caliber that you really have to give the administration credit. Because as you say, they're letting in, you know, 49, 50- 53 people, yeah. People. And the left can't help themselves. They just go for that bait so hard and, you know, end up looking kind of silly in the view, I think, of a lot of Americans. So, yeah, it's-
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
I view it as high-level trolling. I think it's very effective, and you've got to give the administration credit for understanding the politics of this in a way that the left just doesn't.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Right. And some of the commentary on this has just been ridiculous. I mean, they were arguing. I think it was on CNN. I saw a clip the other day saying, you know, that this is not that. Sure, there's violence against these Afrikaners, but, you know, it's not genocide. And so we should be able to tolerate a certain level of violence or something. It's ridiculous. And I think Carl was right.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Carl was, you know, light about four or five million extra folks who were led into the country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
I mean, this is all this is all, you know, again, the public looks at this and says, wait a minute. we let 10 million people in under the Biden administration. Borders were basically thrown wide open for people. They all claimed asylum that they were fleeing from some sort of political violence or whatever. We know that was not true. And it's just a massive abuse of the system.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
And yet here you have 50 folks who literally are in danger and are offered to be given asylum and refugee status. And suddenly the Democrats are like, no, we can't do that. And it's all about race and white... replacement and all this stuff. I mean, it's just it's it's ridiculous. And I think the public sees right through it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Yeah, I think the question is what happens to the plane. Well, the way we've done this is the plane is being given to the Defense Department. It's not being given to Trump.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
So it seems to me that with all the aid that we've given everyone in the world, taking a $400 million plane or whatever, sort of chump change, why not? I have no problem with that personally. The question is then what happens to the plane after the president's term is up and the idea that it's going to a library that – Or maybe Ivanka and Jared get it. We haven't really heard.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
He didn't say his kids.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Right, yeah. I think, you know, I would just assume that the next president get the use of that plane and then president after that until Boeing gets their act together, which looks like it might be a long time.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Oh, absolutely. That's true. And the deals he made suggest that we are now going to have that more tight relationship. But as to the plane, I mean, I'm with you. If it stays the property of the U.S. government and it can be used by future administrations, I have much less of a problem with it than I do if it was somehow transferred to his library or to him or his kids or whoever.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
But Hillary Clinton posted something on X the other day saying – Oh, this is amazing. Yeah, nobody gets $400 million from Qatar without them wanting something for it. Be serious or something. And then people immediately posted that she had received – the Clinton Foundation had received I think $1 million, maybe even $4 million in gifts while she was secretary of state. Yeah. Yes.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
She promised that she was going to, you know, have that looked at and it wasn't. And so it was kind of a self-owned on Clinton's part. Look, there's the people who are talking about this being, you know, grift and graft and corruption on Trump's part, I think, are are out over their skis a little bit.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
There's no indication that Donald Trump's going to do anything, you know, do Qatar's bidding because of this. But again. You know, perception is reality. And there's there's an appearance of of potential impropriety. But again, if it stays, if it stays the property of the U.S. government.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump's Appeal to Working Class, and Michelle Obama's Wild Marriage Rule, with Sean O'Brien and RealClearPolitics Hosts | Ep. 1073
Thanks for having us.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's Sad and Smug Celebration, Gaslighting on Immigration, and Bizarre Belichick Interview, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson | Ep. 1059
If you choose to have a U.S. citizen child knowing you're in this country illegally, you put yourself in that position. You put your family in that position. What we did is remove children with their mothers who requested their children depart with them. This was a parental decision. Parenting 101. The mothers made that choice.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's Sad and Smug Celebration, Gaslighting on Immigration, and Bizarre Belichick Interview, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson | Ep. 1059
And I tell you what, if we didn't do it, the story today would be Trump administration separating families again. No, we're keeping families together. So when a parent says, I want my two-year-old baby to go with me, we made that happen. They weren't deported. We don't deport U.S. citizens. The parents made that decision, not the United States government.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's Sad and Smug Celebration, Gaslighting on Immigration, and Bizarre Belichick Interview, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson | Ep. 1059
But I don't hear any questions about—Lake and Riley had a mother. She's never going to see her child again. Rachel Morin, she had five children. Those children are never going to see their mom again.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's Sad and Smug Celebration, Gaslighting on Immigration, and Bizarre Belichick Interview, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson | Ep. 1059
People always want to say, why are you so emotional when you testify? Why are you so emotional on the network? Because if they wore my shoes for 40 years, they'd understand why I'm emotional. I've talked to little girls as young as nine years old that were raped multiple times by the cartel members.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's Sad and Smug Celebration, Gaslighting on Immigration, and Bizarre Belichick Interview, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson | Ep. 1059
And when you get to your knees and you talk to that little girl and everything innocent and pure has been ripped from her? When you listen to the Lake and Raleigh 17 men and that young lady fighting for her life? Don't just think, okay, a young woman died. Think of how she died, the terror that she went through. And these children are sexually assaulted.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's Sad and Smug Celebration, Gaslighting on Immigration, and Bizarre Belichick Interview, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson | Ep. 1059
I stood in back with tractor trailer and 19 dead people at my feet that baked to death. Illegal immigration is not a victimless crime. And so every sick person we take off the streets, especially child rapists, it makes this country much safer. Every illegal alien we arrest, public safety threat, one at a time makes this country safer.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
How can you possibly afford to deport all of those people? Well, leave it up to Congress. You know, I think Congress, the president has a mandate. This was the number one issue that people voted on. I think Congress has a mandate to give us money we need. What price do you put on national security? More detention centers?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
What price do you put on all these young ladies who have been raped and murdered and burned alive? What price do you put on that? What price do you put on Lincoln Riley's life?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Look, how many MS-13 members are the age of 14 and 17? Many of them. So, look, if it's the national security threat, public safety threat, what you need to understand is that case by case. Name another agency. No other law enforcement agency has those type of requirements that they can't walk into a school or a doctor's office or on a medical campus. No other agencies have those standards.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
On a case-by-case basis, depending who they are, what the circumstances are. It's never a zero game.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
Let me get a message to the Pope guy. I'm a lifelong Catholic. I was born Catholic. I, I've been through Catholic doctrine. He only concentrated on fixing the Catholic Church, first of all. He's got big problems there. And the Vatican, they have a wall around the Vatican. If you enter the Vatican, the crime is serious. You'll be charged with a serious crime in jail.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
So he can protect the Vatican where he lives. He can build a wall where he lives. Would American people not allow that? No. Securing the border saves lives. He needs to understand that. We secure the border. less women get raped by the cartel, less children die in the river, less Americans die from fentanyl overdoses.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's ICE Hoax, Vance's Masterclass on CBS, and Trump vs. Bass, with Steve Bannon and Batya Ungar-Sargon | Ep. 992
If you ought to stick to it, you ought to stick to the Catholic Church and fix that. That's a mess.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Wow! Trump Screws Himself with Public Confession
First of all, I think she's, you know, I won't go, I won't go, I won't go after her.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Wow! Trump Screws Himself with Public Confession
Look, she's the dumbest congresswoman ever to listen to Congress, and she proves that every day. And look, bottom line is, I can't believe any member of Congress, Republican, Democrat, Independent, would want to educate criminal illegal aliens who are in the country illegally, been convicted of a violent crime,
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Wow! Trump Screws Himself with Public Confession
and have been ordered to be moved by an immigration judge after due process at great taxpayer expense. You got a congressman or congresswoman that does not want ICE to do the job that Congress has mandated them to do and funds them to do.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Democratic Congressman Neguse on GOP Disaster CR
Last week, we celebrated President Trump's countless victories for the American people during his joint address to Congress. This week, Congress must pass a continuing resolution so the American people can continue to enjoy win after win after win. This is the way forward.
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Democratic Congressman Neguse on GOP Disaster CR
But unfortunately, Democrats in Congress would rather throw temper tantrums fueled by their hatred for President Trump than keep the government open and working for all Americans.
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Fox News in Complete Panic as Trump Screws Them
I'm taking this seriously. I don't sleep well at night because I'm afraid of the people that are walking the streets here every day because sanctuary cities are protecting them. Sanctuary cities are sanctuary for criminals. Bottom line. So we're going to do everything we can to find them, regardless of what it takes.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Fox News in Complete Panic as Trump Screws Them
We got a strong president of the White House that's giving us all the authority we need. We're coming.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Fox News Loses Control on Live TV as Trump Gets Worse
Have you read the art of the deal? You read the art of the deal?
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Fox News Loses Control on Live TV as Trump Gets Worse
And this weirdo border czar guy, Tom Holman, he goes on Fox and he's like, I ain't gonna arrest her. We're gonna arrest her. We're gonna...
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump Has Disaster Day With New Plane Crash
what the interactions are with ice and what you can do here play this clip we'll see and others don't want ice to enforce the laws that they enacted she's a member of congress let us enforce the laws you enacted that's what we're supposed to do you can't go after her do you think others should No, I think I've asked DOJ, where's that line of impediment, of interference?
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump Has Disaster Day With New Plane Crash
Now, if someone stands in your way to prevent you from arresting somebody, put your hands down, that's impediment. But what line is telling people to hide from mice, not open the door? Where do you cross that line on impediment? So I simply ask the Department of Justice, give us that line. You have talked to them about this. That's what you're saying?
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 3/11/25
You're not sure if you're going to be able to keep the heat on.
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MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 3/11/25
the markets are going to have all kinds of different things going on but yes we are going to stay the course because this country's future depends on it why should americans not have free and full access to markets around the world when we give all of those other folks access to our markets right here in the united states i think donald trump made it very clear this is what he was going to do.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 3/11/25
I think the public's with him. And by the way, if Canada or other of our trade partners want to try and make this hard on Americans, Charles, it's actually going to help Donald Trump because he told all of us during his campaign, all Americans, that they don't care about you. I'm the one that cares about you. I'm the one that's going to take care of this.
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We should let Jonathan keep talking because the market's come back 50 points. Obviously, the Dow is...
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MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 3/11/25
And I think Americans are going to support him even more.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump Has Meltdown as His Agenda Completely Fails
Again, I do say Donald Trump is a master negotiator. I mean, there is no other leader on the world stage that has his experience and has shown what he has shown in his first term, what he's willing to do and what he can get accomplished. If anybody can help these people get together and bring peace back to the region, it's Donald J. Trump.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Panicked Trump Freaks Out in AM as It All Goes Wrong
Trump said Mexico won't pay for the wall. They have been roundabout way, have they not? Putting 10,000 military on the northern and southern border, taking the action they did with Remain in Mexico. They didn't have to do that. They're doing it. Putting military on the southern border. Have moved illegal immigration to a record low.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
GOP Leaders CRASH AND BURN on Weekend Shows
How many MS-13 members are at age 14 and 17? Many of them. So, look, if it's the national security threat, public safety threat, what you need to understand is that case by case. Name another agency, another law enforcement agency that has those type of requirements, that they can't walk into a school or doctor's office or on a medical campus. No other agencies have those standards.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
GOP Leaders CRASH AND BURN on Weekend Shows
These are well-trained officers with a lot of discretion. And when it comes to the sense of location, there's still going to be supervised review. So it's not like it's an open... open issue. But ICE officers should have discretion to decide, if a national security threat or a public safety threat is in one of these facilities, then there should be an option for them to make the arrest.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
GOP Leaders CRASH AND BURN on Weekend Shows
MARK SHIELDS, On a case-by-case basis, depending who they are, what the circumstances are.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump Suffers Badly as It All Backfires on Him
through various investigations. A lot of the ways we do it, it's law enforcement central. I'm not going to share all that with you, but whether it's through social media, through the activities, through the criminal records here and abroad. So this has done a very... The review of this issue was at the highest level I've seen. And I think, again, I stand by everything we did this weekend.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump Suffers Badly as It All Backfires on Him
And I think the president keeping his promise to the American people. We removed terrorists from the country this weekend. I can't believe any media would question the president's ability to remove terrorists from this country.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump Suffers Badly as It All Backfires on Him
We made a promise to American people. The president Trump has made a promise to American people. We're going to make this country safe again. I wake up every morning loving my job because I work for the greatest president in the history of my life, and we're going to make this country safe again. I'm proud to be a part of this administration. We're not stopping. I don't care what the judges think.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Trump Suffers Badly as It All Backfires on Him
I don't care what the left thinks. We're coming.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 3/14/25
We'll go ahead and move on to our second poll question. And that question is, do you approve of the Department of Government Efficiency's mission to streamline the federal government and reduce spending? Again, this question is regarding DOGE. Do you approve of the Department of Government Efficiency's mission to streamline the federal government and reduce spending?
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MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 3/14/25
Press 1 for yes and press 2 for no. Again, that's one for yes and two for no. Our results are coming in and it's at 70% for no and 30% for yes. That's 70% for no and 30% for yes for the approval of Doja's mission to streamline the federal government and reduce spending.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Doesn't make, don't mean anything anymore. Take the border, draw off the border because there's no consequences for entering this country illegally. We'll give you due process, but when you're order removed, you're going to be removed. Or if we don't, we send the message to the whole world. You can enter the country illegally, which is a crime.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
You can see a judge or not see a judge, get an order removal. No one's looking for you. And that's what the Democrats are doing on this administration. They have overwhelmed the system. released the millions of this country. Immigration, the court doc has pushed back seven, maybe as much as nine years, like in New York. By that time, when they get an order removal, they got two or three U.S.C.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
kids, right? And everybody's complaining, you can't remove that guy. He's got three U.S.C. kids. When I was vice director, I got calls from Republican senators. Why'd you remove that person? He has two U.S.C. children. Well, he didn't have two U.S.C. children to enter the country legally. He didn't have two U.S.C. children. You got calls from Republican senators? Oh, absolutely. They're the worst.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And I said, I said, well, What's my option? He had due process, a great taxpayer expense. He was already moved by a federal judge. The option is a slight mistake, and if we're going to do that, how many more do you want to stay? Then we've got to send a clear message. We're in national laws. You get already moved, you're going to be removed. If not, we send a message to the whole world.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Enter illegally, commit a crime, go have a U.S. citizen child, and you're off the hook.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Well, we know that we can document over 10 million, I count it as 10.5, that we can document that. then we can document over two million gotaways, right? These are known gotaways. What is a known gotaway? These are people we capture an image on drone video.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Well, absolutely. Look at what the Martha's Vineyards did. They put them on there.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Governor Abbott done more to secure this border than anybody in this administration. Guy's great. DeSantis is the same. Do you know who first came up with the idea of busing people to sanctuary cities? It was President Trump. I remember sitting in the Oval Office one time. He said, why don't we do that? So we started putting plans together.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
But the Remain in Mexico program was such a game changer, we couldn't fill a bus up if we wanted to. So we beat the problem before we actually got to that.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
10.5 have been encountered. Over two, we know they're a gotaway because there's a... We captured on drone traffic, video traffic, or sensor traffic, and Borg chose over one that couldn't respond. So we know there was at least 12.5 million people at that border.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
You know, moving the illegal aliens right outside of the vice president Kamala Harris' residence, that was a game changer, too. So I think not only those who... How about the politicians who are pushing back against any form of enforcement of our border laws?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Oh, absolutely. As I said earlier, they're like a Fortune 500 company. They're well-financed. They're diversified in their funding. And look... I've seen a lot of intelligence reports. They have access to military-grade weapons. They'll take the Mexican military on, the Mexican law enforcement. They do all the time. And it's just not my opinion.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
They have control, operational control over the southwest border. And I've talked to chief patrol agents who agree with me. They've lost operational control of the southwest border. One chief patrol agent used the term broken arrow. I was on the phone the one time. He goes, Tom, I can't contain what's coming across. I'm lucky I'm catching 10% of it.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
The criminal cartels, knowing this administration caused this huge humanitarian crisis and overwhelmed the border, as we discussed earlier, and whatever assets is left on the border, left to patrol, The criminal cartels, you think 100 family units or 200 family units show up accidentally at the same place at a certain time? No, the cartels control that.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
They'll send a group to one area, knowing whatever left on the border was seized to that humanitarian crisis, right? They have to go deal with that. They create gaps in the system. That's when they move the fentanyl that's killed a quarter million Americans. That's why sex trafficking is up 600%. The cartels... They create gaps in our system, and that's where they operate.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And for the Democratic representatives up on Hill saying, well, most fentanyl comes through the port of entry. That's just a bunch of garbage. Most fentanyl is seized at a port of entry because every vehicle stopped, and based on the CBP targeting system, which is law enforcement sensitive, and based on the responses to the questions, chances are they'll get secondary and they'll find some things.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Between the port of entry, we're maybe touching 10%. So if I'm a criminal cartel, I'm going to use a route of least resistance. I know my vehicle is going to be stopped at a port of entry. Will it be secondary or not? I don't know. But between a port of entry with 70% of the agents off the line, that's when I'm going to move my product. I mean, it's not rocket science.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Just right over the open border. Absolutely.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
It's a historic number, which is one of the reasons why I wake up pissed off every day because we went for the most secure border in my lifetime. I started in 1984. I was a board trail agent. I worked for six presidents.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
and they're going to auction it off. And now, you know, Texas is talking about buying it back. Shouldn't have to buy it back. We bought it once before, right? This administration's out. They're out in a couple more weeks. Why would they continue to set us up for failure? That's what they're trying to do, right? President Biden's signing all these secular borders.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
They want to sell the border product. I thought the American people on election day gave this country a clear mandate. They want to secure a border. But this administration's going to stop it. They won't stop at anything to slow us down. It's not going to slow us down. We're going to get that border wall finished.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
But the mere stupidity of selling the stuff on pennies on the dollar, every taxpayer should be... What's an act of hate toward the country? Of course. Well, I've said it many times. They hate Trump more than they love the country. For sure.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I used to respect him. Under President Obama, I got a presidential rank award under President Obama because I oversaw the removal of well over a million aliens during that three-year period. Mayorkas actually accompanied me on operations in New York City, targeting criminal aliens and illegal aliens, both. Jay Johnson approved the family operation.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
A lot of families were coming across during the Obama administration. And I told Jay Johnson, look, nine out of 10 of these families are going to be already removed. Are we going to remove them? He said, absolutely. Jay Johnson stood by that. Ali Mayorkas, Alejandro Mayorkas went on operation with us. He backed me up on it a lot.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
The main thing we disagreed on is the transgender policy where you wanted special treatment for transgenders in ICE detention. I was ordered to sign that policy.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I was a board trail agent in Campo, California, San Diego sector.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Making sure they're identified as being a transgender, they're protected in our facilities and separated and get medical attention whether it's hormone therapy or whatever it was.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And we got in a huge argument over that, and I was ordered to sign a memo, and that's kind of where I had fallen out.
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You'd be surprised how many we run across. And they just, you know, they wanted certain protections for them in our facilities. Well, Alejandro Mayorkas went and operated with me. He shook hands with officers who were enforcing the immigration law. I remember we went to New York City on a huge operation, arrested a lot of illegal aliens.
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But to go from the most secure border of my lifetime under President Trump, based on data, right? That's just my opinion. That's data. Go from the most secure border of my lifetime to historic illegal immigration in one administration. That's by design. That's not mismanagement. That's by design. What do you think the goal was? You know, I ask that a lot. Why would anybody open a border up?
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And when he was nominated to be secretary, I thought, okay, we're in the middle of this crisis again, right? He knows how we stopped it. We stopped it by building detention facilities, including family residential centers, you know, the so-called cages, right? He knew how we stopped it.
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We stopped by building more detention facilities, detaining people, making them have a hearing, because if you're in detention, you have a hearing within like 35 days. Nine out of 10 lost. We put them in an airplane, sent them home, and the board of numbers tanked. So I'm thinking, okay, he knows how to fix it. He might be able to do this job. He got into the job, it's a complete 180.
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I don't recognize him anymore. He's about not enforcing law. One of his first instructions to ICE is that being in the country illegally on its own is not enough for you to go make an arrest. You gotta wait till they're convicted of a serious criminal violation.
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It's illegal. I mean, the Fifth Circuit judge, a federal judge in the Fifth Circuit said not only are they ignoring the law, they're actually violating the law. Again, that's when we need to hold these people accountable in the incoming administration. I believe they violated the law.
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Well, they went through the impeachment proceedings, and I said at the time, I think we had five or six Republican congressmen that didn't vote for impeachment. I couldn't believe it. And I thought they lost the right to be a congressman at that point. I mean, if they can impeach President Trump for making a phone call, you can't impeach Alejandro Mayorkas for what he did to this border?
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The biggest national security vulnerability this nation's ever seen? Look, me and Christopher Wray, I'm not a friend of his. I don't really respect the man much, but he agrees with me that the border has become the biggest vulnerability this nation has ever seen. He sees more red flags than ever before, and they continue with the open border, even to this day after the election.
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Now they're going to sell border wall material that we're going to need, and day one we're getting in there. The illegal behavior, the treasonous behavior of this administration has not stopped.
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You know, as an agent since 1984, I think we study people. That's what we do. Either he fooled me under the Obama administration that he actually believed in enforcement. Either I was hoodwinked and just thought he was behind enforcement or he always felt that way. And just he played the role under the Obama administration.
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Then when he came back, he actually did what he always truly believed and opened borders. I know the NGOs and he has a very close relationship. He worked with some NGOs before he came back. So I don't know what happened. All I know is a man who I once respected, I have zero respect to now because of what he's did. Again, not because of incompetence. This is by design.
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They knew exactly what they were doing because he'd been there before. He knows how we shut it down. He knows how we secure the border at a high level. Not as high as Trump. We secure the border at a pretty good level. He did everything he could to unsecure the border, which is a complete 180.
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He's lying under oath, which is a felony too. If I lie under oath, you don't think they, they would love to prosecute me for lying under oath.
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He's lied many times. One of the biggest statements he made was, for those who don't immediately qualify for asylum, they'll be immediately removed. Really? You've got the lowest number of removals in the history of ICE. At the same time, you have historical immigration.
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I think Joe Biden's the first president in American history who came into office and unsecured a border. I worked for, you know, six presidents. Obama and Clinton took steps to secure the border because they understood you possibly can't. There's no way you can have strong national security.
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So, you know, you're supposed to have a hearing a couple weeks ago, and I asked a couple of congressmen to ask that question again. Well, there's a lot of anti-Trump, anti-Homan rhetoric out there that we shouldn't have a mass deportation operation. Do you stand by the statements you've made numerous times that if they don't qualify, they need to be removed?
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because you can also help send a message to the American people, we're doing this deportation operation, it has to be done, and you said it. Would you say that again? Of course, him and Ray backed off the hearing, never had the hearing, but for the American people, we don't, here's my biggest issue, I read it every day, racist, inhumane, to have a mass deportation operation.
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We just went through four years of historical immigration, again, we're nine out of 10 to get order removal. We don't have a choice. That's the way the law is set up. They lose the case, they're going home.
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That's exactly what they think. I was up in Chicago last week. I met with hundreds. I met with black pastors. Black pastors are upset. Yeah.
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Yeah, they feel like, you know, people who are not supposed to be here enter the country illegally, which is a crime. I'm going to keep talking about that. Are getting massive amounts of care, right? Free hotel room, three square meals a day, free medical care.
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And the black community feels left behind because a lot of these people are, you know, they could use some of that tax money in Chicago to help them. And they're taxpayers. They should have the first chance to get some of that help. But the mayor of Chicago, he's ignoring his own community. And I was up there just over a week ago, and I met with hundreds of people that were up there.
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If you're on border security, you need to know what's coming, who's coming in, where it's coming in, why it's coming in. Joe Biden's first president came into office and unsecured the border. And people ask me all the time why. I think they see a future political benefit. I think they think these people will be future Democratic voters, number one.
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And they're suffering because of the decisions to take care of these illegal aliens. I mean, I saw city transit buses parked running fuel as warming buses. How about taking care of the homeless people in that city? Let them get on a warming bus. Of course.
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But they'd rather put these illegal aliens in a hotel room at 500 bucks a night in the Roosevelt Hotel in New York City and give them three meals a day and give them free medical care rather than take care of their own people. We got homeless vets. You've been to Washington, D.C. many times. Less than a mile from the Capitol, you got homeless vets living in tents.
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They don't have a free hotel room. They don't get a hot shower. They don't get three squares a day. They don't have access to free medical care. But you got people who are in the country illegally, you got all that stuff.
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And then the violence in these communities, and we're trying to address the violence. Mayor Adams finally gets it, I think, and we'll see what he actually does. But you got the mayor of Chicago. Chicago, the crime rate is extremely high in Chicago, right? We know the shootings are outrageous. And what we're saying to him, President Trump and myself have been very clear.
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We want to prioritize those illegally in the country that are public safety threats. That's what we want to target first, because they're the most dangerous to our community, public safety threats and national security threats.
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Why would any elected mayor of a city with a crime rate as high as they have not want public safety threats taken out of their communities, especially if they're here illegally? You would think the mayor of Chicago's number one responsibility is the safety of his community. Why not help me take those public safety threats out of the community?
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ICE agents aren't allowed to take a step into Cook County Jail, one of the biggest county jails in the country, where we used to get hundreds of illegal alien criminals out. We can't even step foot in that. They won't honor an ICE detainer. They'd much rather release that public safety threat back in the community to re-offend, and where is he likely to re-offend?
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the immigrant community where he lives.
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Two, but we don't even have to get there, right, Tucker? I mean, when Biden signed over nine executive orders, getting rid of everything we did, he also overturned the Trump census rule, where millions of illegal aliens will be counted in all these sanctuary cities, which is going to result in more seats in the House for the Dems and reproportionate seats in the House.
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And that's why I've been out there taking a lot of hate the last three weeks saying, okay, well.
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Yeah. which I'll wear as a badge of honor. I've been out there saying one thing to the mayor of Denver, right? To the mayor of Chicago and to Governor Pritzker and the rest of them, you cannot help, you can choose not to help us, stand aside, because we're going to do it. However, there's a line you can't cross. If you're going to impede what we're doing, That's a felony.
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If you're going to annoyingly harbor and conceal an illegal alien from ICE agents, USC 1324-III, that's a felony. And we will prosecute. We're done playing the game. There are federal statutes on the books, written by Congress, enacted by Congress, signed by a president, said this is a felony to do these things, and we're going to take that seriously.
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And we got a strong AG coming in, Pam Bondi, I think will back me up on this. You can sit aside and watch us do your work for you. Fine, you do it. But here's the message. No one's asking you to be immigration officers. What we're asking is give us access to the taxpayer-funded jail where you already locked somebody in a jail cell because apparently they're a public safety threat.
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When you're done with them, simply give them to us. And we're removing not only from the community, from the country. Because when you don't, and here's what they're going to get. They're going to get exactly what they don't want by taking this stance.
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You don't let me into jail to arrest a bad guy where one agent can arrest a bad guy in a safety and security of a county jail where we know he don't have access to weapons. You're going to release him back in the community. You're endangering the community, the immigrant community, because most likely to reoffend in that community.
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You're endangering our officers and you're endangering that alien because things could happen when you make an arrest in a public setting. We have access to who knows what weapons, right? Yeah. So what's Tom Holman going to do? We're going to send more agents to the community. We're going to find a guy. So that means I got to send a whole team to the community to find him.
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We send a team because of officer safety concerns. I'm going to send a whole team to find him. When we find him, he's probably going to be with others. Others are not necessarily an operational priority, but guess what? ICE agents aren't going to be told to turn their back on any illegal handling. So we're going to find the bad guy and anybody else around him.
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So by your actions of not letting me in that county jail means more agents in your neighborhood, a lot more agents in your neighborhood, and a lot more arrests and many non-priority arrests. You want to play the game, we're going to play the game. That's the result you're going to get. But I can't believe to this day that any elected governor, Governor Pritzker says, you got to come through me.
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Okay, no problem. We can do that. Why would you not want to help remove public safety threats? I mean, this should be no question. You're going to have your opinion on illegal immigration. We're talking about criminals.
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Oh, yeah. I think President Trump, when he gets back in, when he needs to establish the other census rule, illegal animals should not be counted in the census.
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President Trump administration will not put up with it. And that's why I've been sending a warning shout out. This is not going to be tolerated. We're going to take action. American lives are at stake here. And, um, This president, I think, has been given a mandate by American people. Apparently, the results of the election has no influence on many of these people.
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Mayor Adams reached out to me, and I actually went to Mayor Adams. He understands it, and I think he realizes that we're taking it seriously. Eric Adams from New York reached out to you. Reached out to me. Good for him. I went and sat down and met with him. He believes he should take public safety threats out of his communities, too. He's offering to help us.
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He's offering to let me in the Rikers Island Jail. We've been kicked out of Rikers Island Jail for years. Again, we used to arrest hundreds of illegal animals with criminal convictions there. Eric Adams says he's going to go as far as writing an executive order to get us back in Rikers Island because he agrees with me that Mary de Blasio did a lot of harm.
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that affected the public safety in New York City. So he's getting a lot of pushback from the city council. I saw him the other day. He says, you know, you can cancel me if you want, but this is the right thing to do for public safety in New York. He also said he would assist me in finding over the 300,000 missing children, which many of them are going to be in New York City.
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Exactly. I think President Trump will reinstitute the game-changing policies he had during the first administration so we can secure the border. We did it before. This time we're going to finish the job.
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I absolutely do. Yes. And when I sat down with him, It was all about public safety. Other stuff never came up. The cop in him came out. And look, I've been calling him out for two years, saying he forgot what it's like to be a cop and became a politician. He's not helping with this crisis. But when he reached out to me, I sat down with him.
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Do you know? I don't have it off the top of my head, but I know the number, depending on what sector you look at, is 600 to 800% increase on the northern border. specifically in upstate New York where I grew up. And I still have a home up there. So I'm very familiar with that area. And I talk to Border Patrol chiefs up there all the time. Northern New York has a huge problem.
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I saw the, first time ever, I saw the cop, the career cop come out and said, look, this is, this is, this is, this shouldn't be controversial at all, Mr. Obama, I want to work with you on this. He goes, we're not going to be immigration officers. I'm not going to help you round up illegal aliens. I said, I don't want, I don't want to be an immigration officer.
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I want cops to work with cops to remove public safety threats. He gets it.
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and uh he says he's going to take some executive actions and so i hope he does because that's going to make new york city much safer not only for the community but for my officers yeah my biggest threat is you're going to force us in the community arrest bad guys when we could arrest them in a safety and security of a jail that puts our guys at great risk so uh and the same with the border patrol agents the criminal cartels can be put out of business by president trump which means the violence is going to rise on the southern border
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And these men and women, they're going to put their lives on the line every day. Again, I can't believe any politician, left, right, middle, would want to put these officers at risk when there's a better way to do this. When I first started in this game back in the 1980s, I never heard a word of Sanctuary City. We got in every county. Everybody worked there. I can't believe we're at the time now.
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My father was a cop. My grandfather was a cop. Your grandfather was a cop? Yeah. I knew I was going to be a cop.
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In upstate New York. So... In my day, cops were respected. Police officers were respected. Now, fast forward now, and these politicians, if you enforce law, all of a sudden you become the bad guy. And if you break the law, you're the victim. That's truly the way it is in some of these cities.
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President Trump's going to take a hard stance. I think he'll take your, one of the things, take your federal funding away. I think that's going to bring a lot of people to the table because they need that money. And plus, I think it gets down to if they MP, if they normally harbor, I think we need to, you know, prosecute members.
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And, you know, I said this back, I said this when I was ICE director, that they don't need to be held accountable and DOJ needs to look at criminal prosecution. Of course, the media went crazy. Homan's calling to lock up politicians. What I called for is DOJ, if I'm not an attorney, but I, as an agent, many years ago, I have arrested United States citizens
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for annoyingly harboring, concealing an illegal alien in their home. I arrested a US citizen for harboring, concealing an illegal alien in the place of business. If I can arrest a US citizen for violating those crimes, why can't I arrest the mayor or a governor who's given his staff explicit instructions to impede us and to hide from us?
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I mean, the Mayor Adams came around the city, he would have the police force at the city boundaries preventing us from coming in, right? That was one of the comments he made. Now, he's walked in back because he made a statement he's willing to go to jail, and I responded, well, I'm willing to put you in jail if that's what it comes to.
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I'm not looking for a fight with these people, but I'm not going to run away from one either. We're going to enforce this law. We're going to do what the American people wants us to do. We're going to enforce the law. We're going to run this deportation operation. If you don't want to help, get the hell out of the way. But if you impede us... We need to prosecute these people and send a message.
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And the problem with northern border, a lot of SIAs come through the northern border. They can afford to fly to Canada and cross the northern border, which is wide open because there's a lot of border and very few agents. So a lot of Indians, a lot of Pakistanis, a lot of Turkish come through the northern border.
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This is no longer acceptable to anybody. Should never have been acceptable, but under the Trump administration, we're not playing that game.
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lake and riley would be alive today if we had a better relationship in new york city she was arrested he was a killer was arrested new york city for injury to child if we had the relationship we used to have they would have turned them over to ice ice would have detained them removed them yeah but instead he went to georgia and you know if if president trump was president
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He wouldn't even be in the United States. He'd be in Mexico in the Remain in Mexico program, would have never been released into the United States, given a free hotel, given a monthly stipend for food and expenses. Free cell phone, airplane tickets. It's just incredible where we're at today. But I got full confidence in myself and in President Trump. And I'm working very close with Steve Miller.
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Brilliant. The architect of the most successful border policy this country ever had.
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He's the deputy chief of staff.
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I'm a senior advisor to the president. Term. Borders are. Not my term, but that's what they nicknamed it. But I can guarantee you, Tucker, and to your listeners, this borders are... It's going to do a hell of a lot better than our last borders are. I've already been to the border three times, and I'm not even in the office yet.
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I don't know. I've talked to people in the intelligence community. Some think it's, some are from an Iranian ship, but I haven't got access to intelligence reports. I know one thing. Maybe the news is right. Maybe they're surveying, maybe they're all legal. I just find it hard to believe. I can't believe this administration has taken action on it.
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I guarantee you if President Trump was in the Oval Office, everyone would have blown out sky by now. I don't know factually because I don't see the intelligence reports. I'm not in yet. But I find it highly suspicious that the administration is saying they're all legal and lawful and that they pose no harm to the communities. I don't buy it.
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I do not know. I'm hoping they have. I mean, they should have, but I don't know. I just saw one congressman from New Jersey said he got information from...
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iranian um summer yeah and i've also talked to friends in the intelligence community that off the record taught the same thing but i have no direct knowledge of it that's bizarre um by guarantee within a few days of trump get a white white house won't find out yeah i think that's uh i i believe that i believe that to be true um so of the so you've described i think really well the problem
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We know right now we got over 1.7 million with final orders of removal already been ordered removed that haven't been removed.
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That's easy. We got 700,000, 780,000 illegal aliens with criminal convictions. They're going to be priority one. Then we got, you know, like I said, we got criminals, national security threats, and fugitives. These are the ones I talked at one point about. I think the last number was, of people who had due process, a great taxpayer expense order removed. They need to go. We'll find them.
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Then we take the rest. I mean, everybody says, how many illegal aliens can you remove in a year? I don't know. I'll find out when I get into office, how many positions do I have? What does my money look like? How much money do I have to buy beds? Because we need detention beds. People don't understand, you don't arrest somebody and just deport them that day.
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We have to detain them and work out arrangements for their home country to get travel documents. And they have to accept that, yeah, they're a national of ours. And there's a process we go through anywhere from a few days to a few weeks. So we have to detain these people. So how many beds can I afford to buy? Because if I don't have beds, it's going to be hard to do this.
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How much money do you have for transportation contracts, whether over the ground or in the air? And can other agencies be involved? I know I specifically have requested that DOD be involved. They can do non-enforcement duty, What that does is, so the officers wearing a badge and gun with immigration authority, they shouldn't be driving a bus.
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They shouldn't be building infrastructure on the Southwest border south side of facilities. They shouldn't be doing the intelligence. They shouldn't be doing the targeting, right? As much non-enforcement work as possible, contract that out, have DOD do a lot of it, and that releases those badges and guns to the street where they're really needed. So what other agencies are involved?
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Is DOD going to be a part of this, take off the non-enforcement duties off our shoulders? So hopefully I'll find out really fast what we have. I know right now my source is at ICE. They're already $300 million in the hole. So I'm hoping Congress will provide us with huge funding through the conciliation process. That's my hopes. And I know I talked to Lindsey Graham yesterday. Or deportation.
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Yeah, Lindsey Graham yesterday said he's working on an astronomical bill. It'll be more money than we've ever seen before. I hope that's true. I just don't want to be held up in this tax bill because that's going to take six or eight months and it gets watered down by the time we get it and it's just ridiculous.
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They're spending money defending the Ukrainian border, but it would be nice if they gave us just a piece of that action because they got a lot of money. I'm hoping – I'm praying that this is going to be different than the first Trump administration when he had the Senate and the House for the first two years. I'm hoping they come to the table and help this president succeed.
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So funding is paramount. We're only going to be as successful as the funding we're given to get this job done.
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You know, we're still looking into it. I think under the Trump administration, it needs to be an investigation on what happened, who was involved. I know I've had numerous conversations with Mark Green, who is the chairman of Homeland Oversight. He plans on having some oversight hearings on this, specifically when it relates to the NGOs.
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Yeah, I believe I was.
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Yeah, there's a lot of media outlets right now. I think they're trying to shame us in how expensive this operation is going to be. It's just incredible.
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First of all, what price do you put on national security? What price do you put on Lake and Riley's life and so many other little girls? It's going to be a cost savings for American people. Right now, we're spending billions of dollars on a free airline ticket, free hotel room, not even mentioning the cost of schools and trauma centers and hospitals and social services and perpetuity.
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Yeah, it's going to be expensive.
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It'll be expensive. We're out of the gate. But in the long run, we're going to save American taxpayers billions of dollars by getting this country back to the rule of law.
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Well, that's why president Trump won this election. He's put America first. That's why I can't look. This is the second time I came back from retirement. Uh, to serve this president because, like I said, I've been doing this a long time, and I'm at the point now where I wake up every day pissed off.
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The first day I woke up with a smile on my face was the day after the election because I knew we can fix this. I knew by fixing it, you save lives. Secure borders save lives, right? Even when you get 100% of the agents on the line doing their job rather than changing diapers, making baby forms, making hospital runs, more fentanyl Cs means less fentanyl deaths.
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Less people, less gotaways, which means less sex trafficking on women and children, less known as suspected terrorists. Even the wall saves lives. And people say, oh, Trump's vanity wall. No, that's America's wall, first of all. Every place they build a border barrier, illegal immigration reduced, illegal drug flow reduced. What people don't want to talk about is how many lives it saves.
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The most vulnerable of those that come into the country, the women and children, can't get over that wall, which means they're going to a place where there's not a wall. And what's waiting on them? The men and women wearing that green uniform, the finest 1% this country has, who are going to take care of their medical needs first, because they're in a lot of bad shape when they get there.
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You know, I think they were complicit in a lot of this illegal immigration. And certainly the United Nations, we're south of our border working on this global illegal immigration to the United States. So I'm counting on the new Congress, which we now have control of both the House and the Senate, to conduct oversight hearings and hold people accountable.
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Men and women in the border patrol save thousands of lives every year. Of course, the left wants to calm, you know, haters and stormtroopers and they want to, you know, slander the men in the horse patrol for what they did. And still no policy to stay. Men and women in the border patrol save a lot of lives. Border wall saves lives.
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And under the Trump administration, the number of deaths were very, very low. Both Americans and Americans. Illegal aliens. Under Joe Biden, I think we're just short of 4,000 aliens have died crossing the border. While you and I are talking right now, while you and I are having this discussion, women are being raped by members of the cartels as a part of the crossing through that border.
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A child's going to die today. Either drown in a river or be lost in the ditch or abandoned by these cartels. And they think that the government's getting close to them. They'll dump people and save their own skin and put these, look how many children have been abandoned at the border. Border patrols found a lot of them. I guarantee border patrol didn't find all of them.
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There's some toddlers they're going to find someday.
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Yeah. Yeah, they worship death. Like, formally worship it, though. Yeah, yeah. There's... I won't call them religious. Some places, even the Texas DPS have found some of these places where the cartels were operating. They got statues, statutes there and memorabilia worshiping death as a consequence of not allowing them to do their business.
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I got a video on my phone. showing a member of the cartel skinning a man alive, skinning him alive on video to send a message to anybody. If you push back on the cartels, if you snitch on the cartels, they're not going to just kill you. They're going to make you suffer immensely.
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I got sent this video by someone in the intelligence community, and I'm a pretty tough guy, but I can't watch a whole video.
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When they skin somebody alive. and the pain that man went through. This is what they do. That's why MS-13, they don't just shoot somebody, they hack them up. Me and President Trump, remember when we did Operation Matador in Long Island, we arrested just short of 500 gang members and a lot of MS-13. During the press conference, President Trump referred to these people as animals.
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And of course, Nancy Pelosi arrested people as nuts. These are people he refers to as animals. She's an animal, actually. Then they came to me and I said, I don't know what President Trump has against animals. But animals kill to survive. MS-13 kills for pleasure. They're much worse than animals.
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So... But turning to Agua and the rest of them, they're on notice. There are days of coming over here and committing crimes and victimizing this country over. And a lot of people are pushing back, saying, well, you can't remove them to Venezuela. They're going to be removed. And if Venezuela don't take them, we'll send someplace south, but they're not staying here.
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There's no way, again, there's no way this is mismanagement or incompetence. This is by design. And do I think Joe Biden had the expertise to do it? No, I think someone's pulling his strings. So this is something that needs to be fully investigated. People need to be held accountable because- Oh, they need to go wreck the country.
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So, turning to Iowa, it's done a lot of harm in this country, as you know. The rape, murder of little girls, and the theft, and the organized crime they've instilled in major cities in this country. President Trump put them on notice. Our gang is bigger than their gang. I hope so. Take them out of business.
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It's a shame. I mean, DOD's helped a lot of administrations. They helped the Obama administration. They help the Clinton administration.
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Well, I think we've proven that the Southwest border is a huge national security vulnerability. I think it's a perfect place for the military to be. Yeah, bigger than Syria, I would say. It's more of a national security vulnerability than Ukraine or Syria or anyplace else. So I think President Trump's not going to take no for an answer. He is the president of the United States.
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He's going to make this work. And DOD will be a part of this operation. We need him. We can make a bigger impact if they can do some of the things that don't require a badge and gun for us, and that puts more badge and guns on the street than the rest of the bad guys. They're an imperative part of this operation. Other agencies, when we need help from, you know, I'd like to see the U.S.
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Marshals be a part of that, the FBI be a part of it. You know, I've gotten, I've actually shut down my LinkedIn account because I've gotten thousands of, thousands, Retired Border Patrol agents, retired ICE agents, retired police officers, retired military, all want to come back and help this operation.
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They created the biggest national security vulnerability this nation has ever seen. We got a record number of people on terrorist watch lists being arrested. We got 2.2 million people. And this is my biggest issue I brought up for the last two years. It's just not about illegal immigration anymore. You cause a crisis this big that overwhelms the border patrol,
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And I'm hoping we can rehire a lot of these people, rehire the new ones, put these, you know, especially the retired Border Patrol and ICE agents. They know the Fourth Amendment. They know they can do and don't do. A lot of them speak Spanish. They know how to use the processing systems. They know the game. They're good at it.
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So one of the first thing I'm going to be working on is bringing a lot of these retired agents back and let them help us do this job. They're educated in immigration enforcement. They hit the ground running.
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181 different countries.
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Mexican still, National Mexico still lead. Oh, really? Yeah. El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, close second. I mean, those four countries make up a majority. But what concerns me is the country that we never had much activity from. 46,000 Chinese. What's that? It scares the hell out of me because a lot of them are military age males.
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46,000 military age males don't leave China without the coordination approval of the Chinese government. That just don't happen. Russians, we got over, I think last look I have is 27,000 Russians. People from Turkey, Syria, Iran, Iraq. Big Africa, too. It's just... How many from Africa do you think? I don't have that on top of my head.
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But special interest countries, numbers like we've never seen before. And we can't properly vet them. That's one thing I've been screaming about for two years. Secretary of Minerals gets up there and says, they're all properly vetted. Vetted against what? Because we don't have criminal data from El Salvador or Turkey or Syria.
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Do you think China's going to give us any national security data on their people or Russia? So you vet them against NCIC, which we have. So unless you've been convicted or arrested in this country before and your fingerprints were taken, you're going to come back clean because we don't have access to most countries' criminal data. A lot of these countries don't have criminal data, right?
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You think Haiti has an NCIC? Absolutely don't. So they say they vet them and they don't vet them properly. And when it comes to terrorist vetting, Beyond the criminal vetting, how about terrorist vetting? You and I both know most terrorists in this world aren't in any database.
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where many times 70% of agents were pulled off the line dealing with this humanitarian crisis, right? Changing diapers, making baby formula, making hospital runs, doing that humanitarian mission, leaving 30% of our Homeland Security officials left secure in the border.
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Unless they were part of a T3 operation or caught on chatter or encountered on a battlefield by a soldier and biometrics were taken, we don't know who they are or where they're at. And so even they say they vet them through these terrorist databases don't really mean a lot. But here's one thing that has been talked about a lot, and I've talked to several whistleblowers in Border Patrol,
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Well, look, we had a discussion that night, and he gave me three rails, three things he wants me to do. Number one is secure the border. Yeah. Shut the border down. Number two, run the biggest deportation operation this country's ever seen.
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So they arrest somebody from one of these countries, they vet them through the Bureau. But there'd been such a push by this administration, process quick, release quick, because there's nowhere we're crawling, there's nothing to see here, border secure. They process and release so quickly, sometimes the vetting came back after they released and they were hot.
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At least two occasions this has happened. ICE actually found one later on.
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They're a positive hit on the terrorist database. Person of interest. So that's going to change. I mean, we have to detain these people. The Trump administration won't end catch and release. Either you're going to be sent back to Mexico or we detain you. The only thing that I'm concerned with is the Zabados Supreme Court ruling. There's a ruling called Zabados versus U.S.
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that says you can only hold somebody up to six months for a significant likelihood of removal. So if we have a country that absolutely will not take them back, at the end of six months, we got a decision to make. Either we move them to a cooperating third country but we have to release them unless we can prove. Why not send them to Mexico? If they came through, why don't Mexico deal with it?
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That's part of the plan. The Claudia lady deal with it. That's part of the plan, and we're hoping to do that. But the Zabadas ruling is terrible, and we're hoping that now we've got a better Supreme Court, that needs to be relitigated.
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To say we can only hold somebody for six months, and they're a significant public safety threat, just because this country says, no, we don't want them, there's got to be a better way.
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Venezuela has.
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I don't think so. I think China, these people came here for a purpose. As you know, you've done a lot of reporting and they got land around military bases. They're setting up a shadow business here. I think China, between all these people they sent, plus continuing to create the precursors that make fentanyl, they're trying to destroy this country. That's my personal opinion.
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And what has the Biden administration done to China about creating these fentanyls that he sold to cartels in Mexico? What have they done about the cartels? Nothing. President Trump's going through.
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There was times in the last two years where 100%, 100% of border police were pulled off the line, such as in El Paso, because when they got overcrowded, this administration said, wait, we can't have overcrowding. That's a bad optic. So let's pull every agent off the line, process as quick as possible, release as quick as possible, because if there's no overcrowding, there's nothing to see here.
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I wonder it every day. I can't wait to get in powder and start drilling down these files. Who are these people who you release? What kind of vetting did you do? Did you take biometric, biographic data?
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But it's been very, you know, they don't talk about it. And it's very, you know, but when we get in power, we're going to have to pull all those records. You know, like that's over 300,000 missing children. We got to pull those records from HHS.
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I've been told by whistleblowers.
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Look, over half a million children have been trafficked into this country. And they get turned over to custody of HHS, Office of Refugee Resettlement, who finds sponsors and releases them to sponsors. I've talked to several whistleblowers who say they weren't even fingerprinting the sponsors on many occasions and not doing proper vetting.
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We have a whistleblower who's testified in front of Congress now three times. A lot of these children seem to be victims of trafficking. They're released to unvetted sponsors and many children will be released to one sponsor. The one whistleblower said there was 11 young girls released to one male, single male. Maybe it's all innocent, maybe it's not.
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No, and look, the CBP One app, they shut that down because of massive fraud. One of the insiders in CBP told me, for example, one dead man sponsored over 1,600 people. Been dead for years. Massive fraud, massive trafficking involved.
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And when they talked about opening CBP One app to do that, I said at the time, before they even implemented it, if you do this, it's going to create a huge trafficking network. Or if you're from Cuba, Nicaragua, Haiti, Venezuela, you wanna come to the United States under this CHNV program, you just gotta find a sponsor who wanna take care of you.
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How many sick pedophiles would be willing to sponsor anybody from one of those four countries to come live in the United States? Then after they get here, you own them. All you gotta do is use their official sponsor. Without you, they can't stay. And what are these, you know, sick sponsors, not all of them, but many of these are going to be predators and sick people.
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What are they going to do to these people who are trying to stay in this country? It's a huge human trafficking issue. I guarantee you.
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Prostitution or forced labor, mainly those two things.
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The border's still secure. So when you overwhelm the border patrol, that's when all the bad things happen. That's when we got 2.2 million gotaways, right? That's when the fentanyl comes across to kill a quarter million Americans. That's why sex trafficking of women and children is up 600%. That's why the number of migrant deaths is at a historic high. So
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We're not going to starting January 21st. Good. But I can tell you, look, of the over 300,000 this government lost track of, I guarantee you, as I sit here today, we'll find many in forced labor, we'll find many in forced sex trafficking. That's the sad thing, we won't find them.
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So that's why President Trump's saying, seriously, we gotta save, we gotta save these women and children that are put in this position. The immigration consequences will still come, but first we gotta save and get these kids, as far as the kids, over 300,000, we gotta save these kids. A lot of them are living the life of hell every day.
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And I guarantee you we're gonna find, HSI has already found some of these children in meat packing plants, cleaning up entrails on a midnight shift. We're gonna find some living with pedophiles. We're gonna find some are in sex slavery. Some are gonna be dead. But we gotta find these children, and President Trump made that a third rail of priorities. And it's something that needs to be done.
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This administration stopped the DNA testing. They stopped the proper vetting. Under the Trump administration, we were having the same problem in the beginning. We did DNA testing. You weren't a family unless DNA testing showed you're a family. And we did vetting. We didn't just vet the sponsor fully.
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We vetted everybody in their household to make sure there wasn't a pedophile living in that house, make sure there wasn't someone arrested with domestic violence in that house. This administration stopped all that because Becerra, the secretary of HHS, he gets on stage and brags And I saw him on a stage bragging how quick we released these kids from government custody. We got a machine here.
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It's like the Ford plant. We get them in and out of here. Yeah, because you stopped the proper vetting. You stopped DNA testing. And God help you for what you did to these children. Because a lot of these children are living the life of hell every day. So we got to find these kids. That's unbelievable.
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Well, because I love my country, first of all. We made more progress on the southern border than ever before in the first Trump administration. I was vice director. I'm taking an 82% pay cut. Oh, I bet. And I'm going back to get my paycheck. And thank God my wife supports me.
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She said if I don't take the job, she's going to divorce me because she don't want to see me waking up every day mad at the world because I didn't come back.
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No, she's not. You know, I say this many times because of things I've seen in my career. I mean, I stood in the back of a tractor trailer. I grew up in a town of 2,500 people. Either you milk cows or you're a logger or you worked at Ford Drum. It's only three things you did where I grew up. So I grew up in town in 2500.
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I fast forward, I'm standing in back of a tractor trailer with 19 dead people at my feet that begged to death in back of that tractor trailer, including a five-year-old little boy who suffocated death. And on top of him was his father who was trying to protect him. During that investigation, they said that old boy begged his father not to let him die because he didn't want to see his mom again.
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This, what people call this innocent illegal immigration crisis, made a lot of bad things happen because the border patrol was strictly overwhelmed and couldn't do their national security.
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Backed over and over again. Here's a five-year-old little boy who knew he was dying and asked his dad for help. And his dad can't help him, right? No. I've talked to little girls as young as nine that were raped multiple times by members of the cartel. Not once, numerous times. Grown men crawled upon this little girl, took everything innocent and pure from her. Her life would never be the same.
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Look in her eyes. There wasn't life in her eyes. This little girl's devastated for life. And this happens every day. When they unsecure the border, on purpose. I wrote an op-ed for Fox News, and I says, if Joe Biden wins the presidency, we lose the border.
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And when you lose the border, trafficking, sex trafficking will skyrocket, child deaths will skyrocket, migrant deaths will skyrocket, American deaths will skyrocket from drugs coming across that border. I wake up ready to get pissed off for four years. And I've been on numerous networks complaining about it.
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So when President Trump calls me up, says, you've been complaining about it for four years. You want to come fix it? How do you say no? First of all, you don't say no to the president of the United States in Sacramento. I won't say no to secure. I love this country. I want to save some lives, secure borders, save lives. So I'm going to come back and do what I can.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I guarantee you what we're going to do is going to save migrant lives. It's going to save American lives. It's going to protect our national security. That's why I'm coming back. Not for the pay. I'll tell you that. I'm coming back to this. After three and a half decades doing this job, do you understand it? Do you understand the tragedies that happen around it?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
The more secure that border is, the more lives we save. So when I retire for the third time, I can say, I did my part to save some lives. And maybe less children are being exploited and women are being exploited by these cartels. And my number one goal is seeing these cartels wipe off the face of the earth. And I think President Trump's the guy to do it.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I do not, but it's something that's going to be, I believe it should be investigated. I'm pushing people. I'm coming to the administration with it. We need to investigate it. Again, I've talked to numerous representatives on the Hill that swear they're going to have hearings on this. And we need to. American people need to know exactly what happened, who is responsible.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Well, the criminal cartels in Mexico, they were born out of the narcotics smuggling industry in Mexico, and they're powerful. Look, they're like a Fortune 500 company. This is not a gang anymore, right? Jalisco cartels, they're in over 45 countries of the world, right?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And third, he wants me to lead an effort to find the over 300,000 missing children that were trafficked into this country, and this administration cannot locate them.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
and not only are they responsible for moving narcotics in this country, they're currently in every major city in the United States, because not only are they smuggling the drugs in the United States, they're taking over the distribution within the United States, right? So, again... And I said this at the RNC, and President Trump agrees with me.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
These criminal cartels have killed more Americans than every terrorist organization in the world combined. And every war, more than the Second World War. So that's why they need to be designated terrorist organizations and wiped off the face of the earth. And it's going to take the United States to do it. Mexico has failed to do it, even if they tried to do it.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
The bottom line is much of the Mexican military, much of the Mexican law enforcement, much of the Mexican government is corrupt. That's just a fact.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Well, we are. President Trump has threatened terrorists, and the president seems to say she's going to help. We'll see if her actions match her words. But President Trump has a lot of power over Mexico. Look, the terrorists alone, Mexico needs us more than we need them, right? And look, I'm not saying every cop, every soldier, every politician in Mexico is corrupt, but many are.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
That's just a fact. When I was ICE director, we had vetted units we worked with. Law enforcement down there, we vetted them so we can work with them. But we didn't even tell the vetted units everything we know because we just couldn't be sure, right? But President Trump has a lot of leverage.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Remember, when I became board vice-president in 1984, one of my first assignments out of the academy was protecting a port of entry in Tecate, California, because we had a DEA agent that was tortured and murdered, Kiki Camerota. I think you remember that.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And they wouldn't help us to identify and turn over the people responsible for it. Ronald Reagan shut down a port of entries. And what, it took him two days? All of a sudden, we know who committed the crime, and so President Trump can obviously do that. He can end all the visas now, end the tourist visas, the business visas.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
There's a lot of power he has over Mexico, and he needs, President Trump's willing to do whatever it takes to protect our sovereignty and to protect this country. And he's ready to do it. He proved it the first time, you know, when we made a Mexico program. Mexico didn't want to do that. 30 safe country agreements. Mexico didn't want to do that.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
They didn't want to put 10,000 military on their border. But President Trump threatened them with tariffs, and they came to the table.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I'm 100% with you, and that's why I've been pushing for Mexico to come to the table and be accountable. It's against the law in Mexico to trafficking women and children, but they don't do anything about it. It's against the law in Mexico to transit through that country. If you're from another country, well, a transit visa, but they allow it.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I mean, look at the beast, the big train that thousands of people came up every weekend. They didn't do anything until President Trump got in office and had them put a stop to it. I mean, but the good thing is a lot of countries are willing to come to the table right now. Mexico says they're going to. Let's see what they do. I'll be deeply involved in those conversations.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Panama, Panama wants to come to the table and help the United States secure our border by shutting down the Darien Gap. This administration said they're going to do it. Secretary Mayorkas said he was going to do it. Panama never got any funding to do it. They never got anything done with this administration. They were coming to the table again. We will shut down Darien Gap, but please help us.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
We will help them. Darien Gap, shutting the Darien Gap down would be a huge game changer on illegal migration to this country.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
It's going to be pretty quick. I mean, we're going to come to the table what we need Mexico to do. Remain in Mexico program, a game changer. That needs to happen quickly. That was a game changer. Because after about two months, they stopped coming. They stopped coming because they knew they weren't being released into the United States to not show up in court.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And even if they show up in court, no one's looking to remove them because on this administration, ICE can't arrest somebody for simply being illegally in the United States. Secretary of Commerce has made that clear. They've got to have a criminal conviction before ICE can even look at them, even though they're illegally here. So the remaining mess goes to game until they stop coming.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
They stop selling... Everything they had, giving the cartels every dollar they had to come to the United States to be released. When the Remain in Mexico program came into place, they stopped coming. When they stopped coming, look at the lives that were saved. Look at the money that was saved.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
If someone is really escaping fear and persecution from their homeland, from their government, home government, if they're really escaping fear and persecution, they're gonna be willing to wait in Mexico for the hearing.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Well, that was the genius of the Remain in Mexico program, right? Because President Trump, I remember sitting in the Oval Office one day, we were talking about this, and I was trying to explain to him, and he understood clearly what the whole situation on asylum is. I told him that if you look at the data, immigration court data, about 9 out of 10 people who claim asylum at our border...
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
never get relief from the U.S. government because they simply don't qualify or they don't show up in court. Then you look at the Homeland Security Lifecycle Report, a report that's put up by Homeland Security, for instance, family units, for those that were already removed, only 6% leave.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
So when I explained to President Trump, 9 out of 10 don't even have a valid claim, but when that 9 out of 10 gets order removed, 6% leave. He says, you know, it didn't take him long to say, why the hell are we doing this? So let's not let him in. Let's have a Remain in Mexico program. If you really escape infirm persecution, you wait in Mexico.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
If you win your case, which are very few, welcome to the United States. But if you don't win your case, we don't have to go find you. And we're not putting this message out of catch and release so people keep coming, knowing they're going to be released in the United States, at the same time knowing when they lose their case, no one's looking to remove them. That whole dynamic's going to change.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Yes. Right? Because I've said, I've been real clear since the day President Trump appointed me, if you're in the country illegally, you've got a problem. Right? If we don't take the judge's order, immigration court, when you order, you're removed. He gets a deportation officer, deportation order. If we don't execute those orders, then what the hell are we doing? Shut down the immigration court.
Today, Explained
Deporting Mahmoud Khalil
President Biden taking executive action this afternoon that will restrict asylum processing along the U.S.-Mexico border.
Today, Explained
Deporting Mahmoud Khalil
His borders are Tom Homan. We've heard that he is unhappy and has made his unhappiness known to the men and women of ICE that they want to get arrests and deportations of migrants higher.