Tom Homan
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Now that starts on January 21st. And we're going to start right here in Chicago, Illinois. Yeah!
The Tucker Carlson Show
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Doesn't make, don't mean anything anymore. Take the border, draw off the border because there's no consequences for entering this country illegally. We'll give you due process, but when you're order removed, you're going to be removed. Or if we don't, we send the message to the whole world. You can enter the country illegally, which is a crime.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
You can see a judge or not see a judge, get an order removal. No one's looking for you. And that's what the Democrats are doing on this administration. They have overwhelmed the system. released the millions of this country. Immigration, the court doc has pushed back seven, maybe as much as nine years, like in New York. By that time, when they get an order removal, they got two or three U.S.C.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
kids, right? And everybody's complaining, you can't remove that guy. He's got three U.S.C. kids. When I was vice director, I got calls from Republican senators. Why'd you remove that person? He has two U.S.C. children. Well, he didn't have two U.S.C. children to enter the country legally. He didn't have two U.S.C. children. You got calls from Republican senators? Oh, absolutely. They're the worst.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And I said, I said, well, What's my option? He had due process, a great taxpayer expense. He was already moved by a federal judge. The option is a slight mistake, and if we're going to do that, how many more do you want to stay? Then we've got to send a clear message. We're in national laws. You get already moved, you're going to be removed. If not, we send a message to the whole world.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Enter illegally, commit a crime, go have a U.S. citizen child, and you're off the hook.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Well, we know that we can document over 10 million, I count it as 10.5, that we can document that. then we can document over two million gotaways, right? These are known gotaways. What is a known gotaway? These are people we capture an image on drone video.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Well, absolutely. Look at what the Martha's Vineyards did. They put them on there.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Governor Abbott done more to secure this border than anybody in this administration. Guy's great. DeSantis is the same. Do you know who first came up with the idea of busing people to sanctuary cities? It was President Trump. I remember sitting in the Oval Office one time. He said, why don't we do that? So we started putting plans together.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
But the Remain in Mexico program was such a game changer, we couldn't fill a bus up if we wanted to. So we beat the problem before we actually got to that.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
10.5 have been encountered. Over two, we know they're a gotaway because there's a... We captured on drone traffic, video traffic, or sensor traffic, and Borg chose over one that couldn't respond. So we know there was at least 12.5 million people at that border.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
You know, moving the illegal aliens right outside of the vice president Kamala Harris' residence, that was a game changer, too. So I think not only those who... How about the politicians who are pushing back against any form of enforcement of our border laws?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Oh, absolutely. As I said earlier, they're like a Fortune 500 company. They're well-financed. They're diversified in their funding. And look... I've seen a lot of intelligence reports. They have access to military-grade weapons. They'll take the Mexican military on, the Mexican law enforcement. They do all the time. And it's just not my opinion.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
They have control, operational control over the southwest border. And I've talked to chief patrol agents who agree with me. They've lost operational control of the southwest border. One chief patrol agent used the term broken arrow. I was on the phone the one time. He goes, Tom, I can't contain what's coming across. I'm lucky I'm catching 10% of it.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
The criminal cartels, knowing this administration caused this huge humanitarian crisis and overwhelmed the border, as we discussed earlier, and whatever assets is left on the border, left to patrol, The criminal cartels, you think 100 family units or 200 family units show up accidentally at the same place at a certain time? No, the cartels control that.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
They'll send a group to one area, knowing whatever left on the border was seized to that humanitarian crisis, right? They have to go deal with that. They create gaps in the system. That's when they move the fentanyl that's killed a quarter million Americans. That's why sex trafficking is up 600%. The cartels... They create gaps in our system, and that's where they operate.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And for the Democratic representatives up on Hill saying, well, most fentanyl comes through the port of entry. That's just a bunch of garbage. Most fentanyl is seized at a port of entry because every vehicle stopped, and based on the CBP targeting system, which is law enforcement sensitive, and based on the responses to the questions, chances are they'll get secondary and they'll find some things.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Between the port of entry, we're maybe touching 10%. So if I'm a criminal cartel, I'm going to use a route of least resistance. I know my vehicle is going to be stopped at a port of entry. Will it be secondary or not? I don't know. But between a port of entry with 70% of the agents off the line, that's when I'm going to move my product. I mean, it's not rocket science.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Just right over the open border. Absolutely.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
It's a historic number, which is one of the reasons why I wake up pissed off every day because we went for the most secure border in my lifetime. I started in 1984. I was a board trail agent. I worked for six presidents.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
and they're going to auction it off. And now, you know, Texas is talking about buying it back. Shouldn't have to buy it back. We bought it once before, right? This administration's out. They're out in a couple more weeks. Why would they continue to set us up for failure? That's what they're trying to do, right? President Biden's signing all these secular borders.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
They want to sell the border product. I thought the American people on election day gave this country a clear mandate. They want to secure a border. But this administration's going to stop it. They won't stop at anything to slow us down. It's not going to slow us down. We're going to get that border wall finished.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
But the mere stupidity of selling the stuff on pennies on the dollar, every taxpayer should be... What's an act of hate toward the country? Of course. Well, I've said it many times. They hate Trump more than they love the country. For sure.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I used to respect him. Under President Obama, I got a presidential rank award under President Obama because I oversaw the removal of well over a million aliens during that three-year period. Mayorkas actually accompanied me on operations in New York City, targeting criminal aliens and illegal aliens, both. Jay Johnson approved the family operation.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
A lot of families were coming across during the Obama administration. And I told Jay Johnson, look, nine out of 10 of these families are going to be already removed. Are we going to remove them? He said, absolutely. Jay Johnson stood by that. Ali Mayorkas, Alejandro Mayorkas went on operation with us. He backed me up on it a lot.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
The main thing we disagreed on is the transgender policy where you wanted special treatment for transgenders in ICE detention. I was ordered to sign that policy.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I was a board trail agent in Campo, California, San Diego sector.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Making sure they're identified as being a transgender, they're protected in our facilities and separated and get medical attention whether it's hormone therapy or whatever it was.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And we got in a huge argument over that, and I was ordered to sign a memo, and that's kind of where I had fallen out.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
You'd be surprised how many we run across. And they just, you know, they wanted certain protections for them in our facilities. Well, Alejandro Mayorkas went and operated with me. He shook hands with officers who were enforcing the immigration law. I remember we went to New York City on a huge operation, arrested a lot of illegal aliens.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
But to go from the most secure border of my lifetime under President Trump, based on data, right? That's just my opinion. That's data. Go from the most secure border of my lifetime to historic illegal immigration in one administration. That's by design. That's not mismanagement. That's by design. What do you think the goal was? You know, I ask that a lot. Why would anybody open a border up?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And when he was nominated to be secretary, I thought, okay, we're in the middle of this crisis again, right? He knows how we stopped it. We stopped it by building detention facilities, including family residential centers, you know, the so-called cages, right? He knew how we stopped it.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
We stopped by building more detention facilities, detaining people, making them have a hearing, because if you're in detention, you have a hearing within like 35 days. Nine out of 10 lost. We put them in an airplane, sent them home, and the board of numbers tanked. So I'm thinking, okay, he knows how to fix it. He might be able to do this job. He got into the job, it's a complete 180.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I don't recognize him anymore. He's about not enforcing law. One of his first instructions to ICE is that being in the country illegally on its own is not enough for you to go make an arrest. You gotta wait till they're convicted of a serious criminal violation.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
It's illegal. I mean, the Fifth Circuit judge, a federal judge in the Fifth Circuit said not only are they ignoring the law, they're actually violating the law. Again, that's when we need to hold these people accountable in the incoming administration. I believe they violated the law.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Well, they went through the impeachment proceedings, and I said at the time, I think we had five or six Republican congressmen that didn't vote for impeachment. I couldn't believe it. And I thought they lost the right to be a congressman at that point. I mean, if they can impeach President Trump for making a phone call, you can't impeach Alejandro Mayorkas for what he did to this border?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
The biggest national security vulnerability this nation's ever seen? Look, me and Christopher Wray, I'm not a friend of his. I don't really respect the man much, but he agrees with me that the border has become the biggest vulnerability this nation has ever seen. He sees more red flags than ever before, and they continue with the open border, even to this day after the election.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Now they're going to sell border wall material that we're going to need, and day one we're getting in there. The illegal behavior, the treasonous behavior of this administration has not stopped.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
You know, as an agent since 1984, I think we study people. That's what we do. Either he fooled me under the Obama administration that he actually believed in enforcement. Either I was hoodwinked and just thought he was behind enforcement or he always felt that way. And just he played the role under the Obama administration.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Then when he came back, he actually did what he always truly believed and opened borders. I know the NGOs and he has a very close relationship. He worked with some NGOs before he came back. So I don't know what happened. All I know is a man who I once respected, I have zero respect to now because of what he's did. Again, not because of incompetence. This is by design.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
They knew exactly what they were doing because he'd been there before. He knows how we shut it down. He knows how we secure the border at a high level. Not as high as Trump. We secure the border at a pretty good level. He did everything he could to unsecure the border, which is a complete 180.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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He's lying under oath, which is a felony too. If I lie under oath, you don't think they, they would love to prosecute me for lying under oath.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
He's lied many times. One of the biggest statements he made was, for those who don't immediately qualify for asylum, they'll be immediately removed. Really? You've got the lowest number of removals in the history of ICE. At the same time, you have historical immigration.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I think Joe Biden's the first president in American history who came into office and unsecured a border. I worked for, you know, six presidents. Obama and Clinton took steps to secure the border because they understood you possibly can't. There's no way you can have strong national security.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
So, you know, you're supposed to have a hearing a couple weeks ago, and I asked a couple of congressmen to ask that question again. Well, there's a lot of anti-Trump, anti-Homan rhetoric out there that we shouldn't have a mass deportation operation. Do you stand by the statements you've made numerous times that if they don't qualify, they need to be removed?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
because you can also help send a message to the American people, we're doing this deportation operation, it has to be done, and you said it. Would you say that again? Of course, him and Ray backed off the hearing, never had the hearing, but for the American people, we don't, here's my biggest issue, I read it every day, racist, inhumane, to have a mass deportation operation.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
We just went through four years of historical immigration, again, we're nine out of 10 to get order removal. We don't have a choice. That's the way the law is set up. They lose the case, they're going home.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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That's exactly what they think. I was up in Chicago last week. I met with hundreds. I met with black pastors. Black pastors are upset. Yeah.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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Yeah, they feel like, you know, people who are not supposed to be here enter the country illegally, which is a crime. I'm going to keep talking about that. Are getting massive amounts of care, right? Free hotel room, three square meals a day, free medical care.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And the black community feels left behind because a lot of these people are, you know, they could use some of that tax money in Chicago to help them. And they're taxpayers. They should have the first chance to get some of that help. But the mayor of Chicago, he's ignoring his own community. And I was up there just over a week ago, and I met with hundreds of people that were up there.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
If you're on border security, you need to know what's coming, who's coming in, where it's coming in, why it's coming in. Joe Biden's first president came into office and unsecured the border. And people ask me all the time why. I think they see a future political benefit. I think they think these people will be future Democratic voters, number one.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And they're suffering because of the decisions to take care of these illegal aliens. I mean, I saw city transit buses parked running fuel as warming buses. How about taking care of the homeless people in that city? Let them get on a warming bus. Of course.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
But they'd rather put these illegal aliens in a hotel room at 500 bucks a night in the Roosevelt Hotel in New York City and give them three meals a day and give them free medical care rather than take care of their own people. We got homeless vets. You've been to Washington, D.C. many times. Less than a mile from the Capitol, you got homeless vets living in tents.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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They don't have a free hotel room. They don't get a hot shower. They don't get three squares a day. They don't have access to free medical care. But you got people who are in the country illegally, you got all that stuff.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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And then the violence in these communities, and we're trying to address the violence. Mayor Adams finally gets it, I think, and we'll see what he actually does. But you got the mayor of Chicago. Chicago, the crime rate is extremely high in Chicago, right? We know the shootings are outrageous. And what we're saying to him, President Trump and myself have been very clear.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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We want to prioritize those illegally in the country that are public safety threats. That's what we want to target first, because they're the most dangerous to our community, public safety threats and national security threats.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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Why would any elected mayor of a city with a crime rate as high as they have not want public safety threats taken out of their communities, especially if they're here illegally? You would think the mayor of Chicago's number one responsibility is the safety of his community. Why not help me take those public safety threats out of the community?
The Tucker Carlson Show
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ICE agents aren't allowed to take a step into Cook County Jail, one of the biggest county jails in the country, where we used to get hundreds of illegal alien criminals out. We can't even step foot in that. They won't honor an ICE detainer. They'd much rather release that public safety threat back in the community to re-offend, and where is he likely to re-offend?
The Tucker Carlson Show
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the immigrant community where he lives.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Two, but we don't even have to get there, right, Tucker? I mean, when Biden signed over nine executive orders, getting rid of everything we did, he also overturned the Trump census rule, where millions of illegal aliens will be counted in all these sanctuary cities, which is going to result in more seats in the House for the Dems and reproportionate seats in the House.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And that's why I've been out there taking a lot of hate the last three weeks saying, okay, well.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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Yeah. which I'll wear as a badge of honor. I've been out there saying one thing to the mayor of Denver, right? To the mayor of Chicago and to Governor Pritzker and the rest of them, you cannot help, you can choose not to help us, stand aside, because we're going to do it. However, there's a line you can't cross. If you're going to impede what we're doing, That's a felony.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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If you're going to annoyingly harbor and conceal an illegal alien from ICE agents, USC 1324-III, that's a felony. And we will prosecute. We're done playing the game. There are federal statutes on the books, written by Congress, enacted by Congress, signed by a president, said this is a felony to do these things, and we're going to take that seriously.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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And we got a strong AG coming in, Pam Bondi, I think will back me up on this. You can sit aside and watch us do your work for you. Fine, you do it. But here's the message. No one's asking you to be immigration officers. What we're asking is give us access to the taxpayer-funded jail where you already locked somebody in a jail cell because apparently they're a public safety threat.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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When you're done with them, simply give them to us. And we're removing not only from the community, from the country. Because when you don't, and here's what they're going to get. They're going to get exactly what they don't want by taking this stance.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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You don't let me into jail to arrest a bad guy where one agent can arrest a bad guy in a safety and security of a county jail where we know he don't have access to weapons. You're going to release him back in the community. You're endangering the community, the immigrant community, because most likely to reoffend in that community.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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You're endangering our officers and you're endangering that alien because things could happen when you make an arrest in a public setting. We have access to who knows what weapons, right? Yeah. So what's Tom Holman going to do? We're going to send more agents to the community. We're going to find a guy. So that means I got to send a whole team to the community to find him.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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We send a team because of officer safety concerns. I'm going to send a whole team to find him. When we find him, he's probably going to be with others. Others are not necessarily an operational priority, but guess what? ICE agents aren't going to be told to turn their back on any illegal handling. So we're going to find the bad guy and anybody else around him.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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So by your actions of not letting me in that county jail means more agents in your neighborhood, a lot more agents in your neighborhood, and a lot more arrests and many non-priority arrests. You want to play the game, we're going to play the game. That's the result you're going to get. But I can't believe to this day that any elected governor, Governor Pritzker says, you got to come through me.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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Okay, no problem. We can do that. Why would you not want to help remove public safety threats? I mean, this should be no question. You're going to have your opinion on illegal immigration. We're talking about criminals.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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Oh, yeah. I think President Trump, when he gets back in, when he needs to establish the other census rule, illegal animals should not be counted in the census.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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President Trump administration will not put up with it. And that's why I've been sending a warning shout out. This is not going to be tolerated. We're going to take action. American lives are at stake here. And, um, This president, I think, has been given a mandate by American people. Apparently, the results of the election has no influence on many of these people.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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Mayor Adams reached out to me, and I actually went to Mayor Adams. He understands it, and I think he realizes that we're taking it seriously. Eric Adams from New York reached out to you. Reached out to me. Good for him. I went and sat down and met with him. He believes he should take public safety threats out of his communities, too. He's offering to help us.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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He's offering to let me in the Rikers Island Jail. We've been kicked out of Rikers Island Jail for years. Again, we used to arrest hundreds of illegal animals with criminal convictions there. Eric Adams says he's going to go as far as writing an executive order to get us back in Rikers Island because he agrees with me that Mary de Blasio did a lot of harm.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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that affected the public safety in New York City. So he's getting a lot of pushback from the city council. I saw him the other day. He says, you know, you can cancel me if you want, but this is the right thing to do for public safety in New York. He also said he would assist me in finding over the 300,000 missing children, which many of them are going to be in New York City.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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Exactly. I think President Trump will reinstitute the game-changing policies he had during the first administration so we can secure the border. We did it before. This time we're going to finish the job.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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I absolutely do. Yes. And when I sat down with him, It was all about public safety. Other stuff never came up. The cop in him came out. And look, I've been calling him out for two years, saying he forgot what it's like to be a cop and became a politician. He's not helping with this crisis. But when he reached out to me, I sat down with him.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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Do you know? I don't have it off the top of my head, but I know the number, depending on what sector you look at, is 600 to 800% increase on the northern border. specifically in upstate New York where I grew up. And I still have a home up there. So I'm very familiar with that area. And I talk to Border Patrol chiefs up there all the time. Northern New York has a huge problem.
The Tucker Carlson Show
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I saw the, first time ever, I saw the cop, the career cop come out and said, look, this is, this is, this is, this shouldn't be controversial at all, Mr. Obama, I want to work with you on this. He goes, we're not going to be immigration officers. I'm not going to help you round up illegal aliens. I said, I don't want, I don't want to be an immigration officer.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I want cops to work with cops to remove public safety threats. He gets it.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
and uh he says he's going to take some executive actions and so i hope he does because that's going to make new york city much safer not only for the community but for my officers yeah my biggest threat is you're going to force us in the community arrest bad guys when we could arrest them in a safety and security of a jail that puts our guys at great risk so uh and the same with the border patrol agents the criminal cartels can be put out of business by president trump which means the violence is going to rise on the southern border
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And these men and women, they're going to put their lives on the line every day. Again, I can't believe any politician, left, right, middle, would want to put these officers at risk when there's a better way to do this. When I first started in this game back in the 1980s, I never heard a word of Sanctuary City. We got in every county. Everybody worked there. I can't believe we're at the time now.
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My father was a cop. My grandfather was a cop. Your grandfather was a cop? Yeah. I knew I was going to be a cop.
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In upstate New York. So... In my day, cops were respected. Police officers were respected. Now, fast forward now, and these politicians, if you enforce law, all of a sudden you become the bad guy. And if you break the law, you're the victim. That's truly the way it is in some of these cities.
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President Trump's going to take a hard stance. I think he'll take your, one of the things, take your federal funding away. I think that's going to bring a lot of people to the table because they need that money. And plus, I think it gets down to if they MP, if they normally harbor, I think we need to, you know, prosecute members.
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And, you know, I said this back, I said this when I was ICE director, that they don't need to be held accountable and DOJ needs to look at criminal prosecution. Of course, the media went crazy. Homan's calling to lock up politicians. What I called for is DOJ, if I'm not an attorney, but I, as an agent, many years ago, I have arrested United States citizens
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for annoyingly harboring, concealing an illegal alien in their home. I arrested a US citizen for harboring, concealing an illegal alien in the place of business. If I can arrest a US citizen for violating those crimes, why can't I arrest the mayor or a governor who's given his staff explicit instructions to impede us and to hide from us?
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I mean, the Mayor Adams came around the city, he would have the police force at the city boundaries preventing us from coming in, right? That was one of the comments he made. Now, he's walked in back because he made a statement he's willing to go to jail, and I responded, well, I'm willing to put you in jail if that's what it comes to.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I'm not looking for a fight with these people, but I'm not going to run away from one either. We're going to enforce this law. We're going to do what the American people wants us to do. We're going to enforce the law. We're going to run this deportation operation. If you don't want to help, get the hell out of the way. But if you impede us... We need to prosecute these people and send a message.
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And the problem with northern border, a lot of SIAs come through the northern border. They can afford to fly to Canada and cross the northern border, which is wide open because there's a lot of border and very few agents. So a lot of Indians, a lot of Pakistanis, a lot of Turkish come through the northern border.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
This is no longer acceptable to anybody. Should never have been acceptable, but under the Trump administration, we're not playing that game.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
lake and riley would be alive today if we had a better relationship in new york city she was arrested he was a killer was arrested new york city for injury to child if we had the relationship we used to have they would have turned them over to ice ice would have detained them removed them yeah but instead he went to georgia and you know if if president trump was president
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He wouldn't even be in the United States. He'd be in Mexico in the Remain in Mexico program, would have never been released into the United States, given a free hotel, given a monthly stipend for food and expenses. Free cell phone, airplane tickets. It's just incredible where we're at today. But I got full confidence in myself and in President Trump. And I'm working very close with Steve Miller.
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Brilliant. The architect of the most successful border policy this country ever had.
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He's the deputy chief of staff.
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I'm a senior advisor to the president. Term. Borders are. Not my term, but that's what they nicknamed it. But I can guarantee you, Tucker, and to your listeners, this borders are... It's going to do a hell of a lot better than our last borders are. I've already been to the border three times, and I'm not even in the office yet.
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I don't know. I've talked to people in the intelligence community. Some think it's, some are from an Iranian ship, but I haven't got access to intelligence reports. I know one thing. Maybe the news is right. Maybe they're surveying, maybe they're all legal. I just find it hard to believe. I can't believe this administration has taken action on it.
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I guarantee you if President Trump was in the Oval Office, everyone would have blown out sky by now. I don't know factually because I don't see the intelligence reports. I'm not in yet. But I find it highly suspicious that the administration is saying they're all legal and lawful and that they pose no harm to the communities. I don't buy it.
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I do not know. I'm hoping they have. I mean, they should have, but I don't know. I just saw one congressman from New Jersey said he got information from...
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iranian um summer yeah and i've also talked to friends in the intelligence community that off the record taught the same thing but i have no direct knowledge of it that's bizarre um by guarantee within a few days of trump get a white white house won't find out yeah i think that's uh i i believe that i believe that to be true um so of the so you've described i think really well the problem
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We know right now we got over 1.7 million with final orders of removal already been ordered removed that haven't been removed.
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That's easy. We got 700,000, 780,000 illegal aliens with criminal convictions. They're going to be priority one. Then we got, you know, like I said, we got criminals, national security threats, and fugitives. These are the ones I talked at one point about. I think the last number was, of people who had due process, a great taxpayer expense order removed. They need to go. We'll find them.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Then we take the rest. I mean, everybody says, how many illegal aliens can you remove in a year? I don't know. I'll find out when I get into office, how many positions do I have? What does my money look like? How much money do I have to buy beds? Because we need detention beds. People don't understand, you don't arrest somebody and just deport them that day.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
We have to detain them and work out arrangements for their home country to get travel documents. And they have to accept that, yeah, they're a national of ours. And there's a process we go through anywhere from a few days to a few weeks. So we have to detain these people. So how many beds can I afford to buy? Because if I don't have beds, it's going to be hard to do this.
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How much money do you have for transportation contracts, whether over the ground or in the air? And can other agencies be involved? I know I specifically have requested that DOD be involved. They can do non-enforcement duty, What that does is, so the officers wearing a badge and gun with immigration authority, they shouldn't be driving a bus.
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They shouldn't be building infrastructure on the Southwest border south side of facilities. They shouldn't be doing the intelligence. They shouldn't be doing the targeting, right? As much non-enforcement work as possible, contract that out, have DOD do a lot of it, and that releases those badges and guns to the street where they're really needed. So what other agencies are involved?
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Is DOD going to be a part of this, take off the non-enforcement duties off our shoulders? So hopefully I'll find out really fast what we have. I know right now my source is at ICE. They're already $300 million in the hole. So I'm hoping Congress will provide us with huge funding through the conciliation process. That's my hopes. And I know I talked to Lindsey Graham yesterday. Or deportation.
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Yeah, Lindsey Graham yesterday said he's working on an astronomical bill. It'll be more money than we've ever seen before. I hope that's true. I just don't want to be held up in this tax bill because that's going to take six or eight months and it gets watered down by the time we get it and it's just ridiculous.
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They're spending money defending the Ukrainian border, but it would be nice if they gave us just a piece of that action because they got a lot of money. I'm hoping – I'm praying that this is going to be different than the first Trump administration when he had the Senate and the House for the first two years. I'm hoping they come to the table and help this president succeed.
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So funding is paramount. We're only going to be as successful as the funding we're given to get this job done.
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You know, we're still looking into it. I think under the Trump administration, it needs to be an investigation on what happened, who was involved. I know I've had numerous conversations with Mark Green, who is the chairman of Homeland Oversight. He plans on having some oversight hearings on this, specifically when it relates to the NGOs.
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Yeah, I believe I was.
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Yeah, there's a lot of media outlets right now. I think they're trying to shame us in how expensive this operation is going to be. It's just incredible.
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First of all, what price do you put on national security? What price do you put on Lake and Riley's life and so many other little girls? It's going to be a cost savings for American people. Right now, we're spending billions of dollars on a free airline ticket, free hotel room, not even mentioning the cost of schools and trauma centers and hospitals and social services and perpetuity.
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Yeah, it's going to be expensive.
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It'll be expensive. We're out of the gate. But in the long run, we're going to save American taxpayers billions of dollars by getting this country back to the rule of law.
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Well, that's why president Trump won this election. He's put America first. That's why I can't look. This is the second time I came back from retirement. Uh, to serve this president because, like I said, I've been doing this a long time, and I'm at the point now where I wake up every day pissed off.
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The first day I woke up with a smile on my face was the day after the election because I knew we can fix this. I knew by fixing it, you save lives. Secure borders save lives, right? Even when you get 100% of the agents on the line doing their job rather than changing diapers, making baby forms, making hospital runs, more fentanyl Cs means less fentanyl deaths.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Less people, less gotaways, which means less sex trafficking on women and children, less known as suspected terrorists. Even the wall saves lives. And people say, oh, Trump's vanity wall. No, that's America's wall, first of all. Every place they build a border barrier, illegal immigration reduced, illegal drug flow reduced. What people don't want to talk about is how many lives it saves.
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The most vulnerable of those that come into the country, the women and children, can't get over that wall, which means they're going to a place where there's not a wall. And what's waiting on them? The men and women wearing that green uniform, the finest 1% this country has, who are going to take care of their medical needs first, because they're in a lot of bad shape when they get there.
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You know, I think they were complicit in a lot of this illegal immigration. And certainly the United Nations, we're south of our border working on this global illegal immigration to the United States. So I'm counting on the new Congress, which we now have control of both the House and the Senate, to conduct oversight hearings and hold people accountable.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Men and women in the border patrol save thousands of lives every year. Of course, the left wants to calm, you know, haters and stormtroopers and they want to, you know, slander the men in the horse patrol for what they did. And still no policy to stay. Men and women in the border patrol save a lot of lives. Border wall saves lives.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And under the Trump administration, the number of deaths were very, very low. Both Americans and Americans. Illegal aliens. Under Joe Biden, I think we're just short of 4,000 aliens have died crossing the border. While you and I are talking right now, while you and I are having this discussion, women are being raped by members of the cartels as a part of the crossing through that border.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
A child's going to die today. Either drown in a river or be lost in the ditch or abandoned by these cartels. And they think that the government's getting close to them. They'll dump people and save their own skin and put these, look how many children have been abandoned at the border. Border patrols found a lot of them. I guarantee border patrol didn't find all of them.
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There's some toddlers they're going to find someday.
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Yeah. Yeah, they worship death. Like, formally worship it, though. Yeah, yeah. There's... I won't call them religious. Some places, even the Texas DPS have found some of these places where the cartels were operating. They got statues, statutes there and memorabilia worshiping death as a consequence of not allowing them to do their business.
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I got a video on my phone. showing a member of the cartel skinning a man alive, skinning him alive on video to send a message to anybody. If you push back on the cartels, if you snitch on the cartels, they're not going to just kill you. They're going to make you suffer immensely.
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I got sent this video by someone in the intelligence community, and I'm a pretty tough guy, but I can't watch a whole video.
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When they skin somebody alive. and the pain that man went through. This is what they do. That's why MS-13, they don't just shoot somebody, they hack them up. Me and President Trump, remember when we did Operation Matador in Long Island, we arrested just short of 500 gang members and a lot of MS-13. During the press conference, President Trump referred to these people as animals.
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And of course, Nancy Pelosi arrested people as nuts. These are people he refers to as animals. She's an animal, actually. Then they came to me and I said, I don't know what President Trump has against animals. But animals kill to survive. MS-13 kills for pleasure. They're much worse than animals.
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So... But turning to Agua and the rest of them, they're on notice. There are days of coming over here and committing crimes and victimizing this country over. And a lot of people are pushing back, saying, well, you can't remove them to Venezuela. They're going to be removed. And if Venezuela don't take them, we'll send someplace south, but they're not staying here.
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There's no way, again, there's no way this is mismanagement or incompetence. This is by design. And do I think Joe Biden had the expertise to do it? No, I think someone's pulling his strings. So this is something that needs to be fully investigated. People need to be held accountable because- Oh, they need to go wreck the country.
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So, turning to Iowa, it's done a lot of harm in this country, as you know. The rape, murder of little girls, and the theft, and the organized crime they've instilled in major cities in this country. President Trump put them on notice. Our gang is bigger than their gang. I hope so. Take them out of business.
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It's a shame. I mean, DOD's helped a lot of administrations. They helped the Obama administration. They help the Clinton administration.
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Well, I think we've proven that the Southwest border is a huge national security vulnerability. I think it's a perfect place for the military to be. Yeah, bigger than Syria, I would say. It's more of a national security vulnerability than Ukraine or Syria or anyplace else. So I think President Trump's not going to take no for an answer. He is the president of the United States.
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He's going to make this work. And DOD will be a part of this operation. We need him. We can make a bigger impact if they can do some of the things that don't require a badge and gun for us, and that puts more badge and guns on the street than the rest of the bad guys. They're an imperative part of this operation. Other agencies, when we need help from, you know, I'd like to see the U.S.
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Marshals be a part of that, the FBI be a part of it. You know, I've gotten, I've actually shut down my LinkedIn account because I've gotten thousands of, thousands, Retired Border Patrol agents, retired ICE agents, retired police officers, retired military, all want to come back and help this operation.
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They created the biggest national security vulnerability this nation has ever seen. We got a record number of people on terrorist watch lists being arrested. We got 2.2 million people. And this is my biggest issue I brought up for the last two years. It's just not about illegal immigration anymore. You cause a crisis this big that overwhelms the border patrol,
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And I'm hoping we can rehire a lot of these people, rehire the new ones, put these, you know, especially the retired Border Patrol and ICE agents. They know the Fourth Amendment. They know they can do and don't do. A lot of them speak Spanish. They know how to use the processing systems. They know the game. They're good at it.
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So one of the first thing I'm going to be working on is bringing a lot of these retired agents back and let them help us do this job. They're educated in immigration enforcement. They hit the ground running.
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181 different countries.
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Mexican still, National Mexico still lead. Oh, really? Yeah. El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, close second. I mean, those four countries make up a majority. But what concerns me is the country that we never had much activity from. 46,000 Chinese. What's that? It scares the hell out of me because a lot of them are military age males.
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46,000 military age males don't leave China without the coordination approval of the Chinese government. That just don't happen. Russians, we got over, I think last look I have is 27,000 Russians. People from Turkey, Syria, Iran, Iraq. Big Africa, too. It's just... How many from Africa do you think? I don't have that on top of my head.
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But special interest countries, numbers like we've never seen before. And we can't properly vet them. That's one thing I've been screaming about for two years. Secretary of Minerals gets up there and says, they're all properly vetted. Vetted against what? Because we don't have criminal data from El Salvador or Turkey or Syria.
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Do you think China's going to give us any national security data on their people or Russia? So you vet them against NCIC, which we have. So unless you've been convicted or arrested in this country before and your fingerprints were taken, you're going to come back clean because we don't have access to most countries' criminal data. A lot of these countries don't have criminal data, right?
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You think Haiti has an NCIC? Absolutely don't. So they say they vet them and they don't vet them properly. And when it comes to terrorist vetting, Beyond the criminal vetting, how about terrorist vetting? You and I both know most terrorists in this world aren't in any database.
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where many times 70% of agents were pulled off the line dealing with this humanitarian crisis, right? Changing diapers, making baby formula, making hospital runs, doing that humanitarian mission, leaving 30% of our Homeland Security officials left secure in the border.
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Unless they were part of a T3 operation or caught on chatter or encountered on a battlefield by a soldier and biometrics were taken, we don't know who they are or where they're at. And so even they say they vet them through these terrorist databases don't really mean a lot. But here's one thing that has been talked about a lot, and I've talked to several whistleblowers in Border Patrol,
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Well, look, we had a discussion that night, and he gave me three rails, three things he wants me to do. Number one is secure the border. Yeah. Shut the border down. Number two, run the biggest deportation operation this country's ever seen.
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So they arrest somebody from one of these countries, they vet them through the Bureau. But there'd been such a push by this administration, process quick, release quick, because there's nowhere we're crawling, there's nothing to see here, border secure. They process and release so quickly, sometimes the vetting came back after they released and they were hot.
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At least two occasions this has happened. ICE actually found one later on.
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They're a positive hit on the terrorist database. Person of interest. So that's going to change. I mean, we have to detain these people. The Trump administration won't end catch and release. Either you're going to be sent back to Mexico or we detain you. The only thing that I'm concerned with is the Zabados Supreme Court ruling. There's a ruling called Zabados versus U.S.
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that says you can only hold somebody up to six months for a significant likelihood of removal. So if we have a country that absolutely will not take them back, at the end of six months, we got a decision to make. Either we move them to a cooperating third country but we have to release them unless we can prove. Why not send them to Mexico? If they came through, why don't Mexico deal with it?
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That's part of the plan. The Claudia lady deal with it. That's part of the plan, and we're hoping to do that. But the Zabadas ruling is terrible, and we're hoping that now we've got a better Supreme Court, that needs to be relitigated.
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To say we can only hold somebody for six months, and they're a significant public safety threat, just because this country says, no, we don't want them, there's got to be a better way.
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Venezuela has.
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I don't think so. I think China, these people came here for a purpose. As you know, you've done a lot of reporting and they got land around military bases. They're setting up a shadow business here. I think China, between all these people they sent, plus continuing to create the precursors that make fentanyl, they're trying to destroy this country. That's my personal opinion.
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And what has the Biden administration done to China about creating these fentanyls that he sold to cartels in Mexico? What have they done about the cartels? Nothing. President Trump's going through.
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There was times in the last two years where 100%, 100% of border police were pulled off the line, such as in El Paso, because when they got overcrowded, this administration said, wait, we can't have overcrowding. That's a bad optic. So let's pull every agent off the line, process as quick as possible, release as quick as possible, because if there's no overcrowding, there's nothing to see here.
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I wonder it every day. I can't wait to get in powder and start drilling down these files. Who are these people who you release? What kind of vetting did you do? Did you take biometric, biographic data?
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
But it's been very, you know, they don't talk about it. And it's very, you know, but when we get in power, we're going to have to pull all those records. You know, like that's over 300,000 missing children. We got to pull those records from HHS.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I've been told by whistleblowers.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Look, over half a million children have been trafficked into this country. And they get turned over to custody of HHS, Office of Refugee Resettlement, who finds sponsors and releases them to sponsors. I've talked to several whistleblowers who say they weren't even fingerprinting the sponsors on many occasions and not doing proper vetting.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
We have a whistleblower who's testified in front of Congress now three times. A lot of these children seem to be victims of trafficking. They're released to unvetted sponsors and many children will be released to one sponsor. The one whistleblower said there was 11 young girls released to one male, single male. Maybe it's all innocent, maybe it's not.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
No, and look, the CBP One app, they shut that down because of massive fraud. One of the insiders in CBP told me, for example, one dead man sponsored over 1,600 people. Been dead for years. Massive fraud, massive trafficking involved.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And when they talked about opening CBP One app to do that, I said at the time, before they even implemented it, if you do this, it's going to create a huge trafficking network. Or if you're from Cuba, Nicaragua, Haiti, Venezuela, you wanna come to the United States under this CHNV program, you just gotta find a sponsor who wanna take care of you.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
How many sick pedophiles would be willing to sponsor anybody from one of those four countries to come live in the United States? Then after they get here, you own them. All you gotta do is use their official sponsor. Without you, they can't stay. And what are these, you know, sick sponsors, not all of them, but many of these are going to be predators and sick people.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
What are they going to do to these people who are trying to stay in this country? It's a huge human trafficking issue. I guarantee you.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Prostitution or forced labor, mainly those two things.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
The border's still secure. So when you overwhelm the border patrol, that's when all the bad things happen. That's when we got 2.2 million gotaways, right? That's when the fentanyl comes across to kill a quarter million Americans. That's why sex trafficking of women and children is up 600%. That's why the number of migrant deaths is at a historic high. So
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
We're not going to starting January 21st. Good. But I can tell you, look, of the over 300,000 this government lost track of, I guarantee you, as I sit here today, we'll find many in forced labor, we'll find many in forced sex trafficking. That's the sad thing, we won't find them.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
So that's why President Trump's saying, seriously, we gotta save, we gotta save these women and children that are put in this position. The immigration consequences will still come, but first we gotta save and get these kids, as far as the kids, over 300,000, we gotta save these kids. A lot of them are living the life of hell every day.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And I guarantee you we're gonna find, HSI has already found some of these children in meat packing plants, cleaning up entrails on a midnight shift. We're gonna find some living with pedophiles. We're gonna find some are in sex slavery. Some are gonna be dead. But we gotta find these children, and President Trump made that a third rail of priorities. And it's something that needs to be done.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
This administration stopped the DNA testing. They stopped the proper vetting. Under the Trump administration, we were having the same problem in the beginning. We did DNA testing. You weren't a family unless DNA testing showed you're a family. And we did vetting. We didn't just vet the sponsor fully.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
We vetted everybody in their household to make sure there wasn't a pedophile living in that house, make sure there wasn't someone arrested with domestic violence in that house. This administration stopped all that because Becerra, the secretary of HHS, he gets on stage and brags And I saw him on a stage bragging how quick we released these kids from government custody. We got a machine here.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
It's like the Ford plant. We get them in and out of here. Yeah, because you stopped the proper vetting. You stopped DNA testing. And God help you for what you did to these children. Because a lot of these children are living the life of hell every day. So we got to find these kids. That's unbelievable.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Well, because I love my country, first of all. We made more progress on the southern border than ever before in the first Trump administration. I was vice director. I'm taking an 82% pay cut. Oh, I bet. And I'm going back to get my paycheck. And thank God my wife supports me.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
She said if I don't take the job, she's going to divorce me because she don't want to see me waking up every day mad at the world because I didn't come back.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
No, she's not. You know, I say this many times because of things I've seen in my career. I mean, I stood in the back of a tractor trailer. I grew up in a town of 2,500 people. Either you milk cows or you're a logger or you worked at Ford Drum. It's only three things you did where I grew up. So I grew up in town in 2500.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I fast forward, I'm standing in back of a tractor trailer with 19 dead people at my feet that begged to death in back of that tractor trailer, including a five-year-old little boy who suffocated death. And on top of him was his father who was trying to protect him. During that investigation, they said that old boy begged his father not to let him die because he didn't want to see his mom again.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
This, what people call this innocent illegal immigration crisis, made a lot of bad things happen because the border patrol was strictly overwhelmed and couldn't do their national security.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Backed over and over again. Here's a five-year-old little boy who knew he was dying and asked his dad for help. And his dad can't help him, right? No. I've talked to little girls as young as nine that were raped multiple times by members of the cartel. Not once, numerous times. Grown men crawled upon this little girl, took everything innocent and pure from her. Her life would never be the same.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Look in her eyes. There wasn't life in her eyes. This little girl's devastated for life. And this happens every day. When they unsecure the border, on purpose. I wrote an op-ed for Fox News, and I says, if Joe Biden wins the presidency, we lose the border.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And when you lose the border, trafficking, sex trafficking will skyrocket, child deaths will skyrocket, migrant deaths will skyrocket, American deaths will skyrocket from drugs coming across that border. I wake up ready to get pissed off for four years. And I've been on numerous networks complaining about it.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
So when President Trump calls me up, says, you've been complaining about it for four years. You want to come fix it? How do you say no? First of all, you don't say no to the president of the United States in Sacramento. I won't say no to secure. I love this country. I want to save some lives, secure borders, save lives. So I'm going to come back and do what I can.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I guarantee you what we're going to do is going to save migrant lives. It's going to save American lives. It's going to protect our national security. That's why I'm coming back. Not for the pay. I'll tell you that. I'm coming back to this. After three and a half decades doing this job, do you understand it? Do you understand the tragedies that happen around it?
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
The more secure that border is, the more lives we save. So when I retire for the third time, I can say, I did my part to save some lives. And maybe less children are being exploited and women are being exploited by these cartels. And my number one goal is seeing these cartels wipe off the face of the earth. And I think President Trump's the guy to do it.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I do not, but it's something that's going to be, I believe it should be investigated. I'm pushing people. I'm coming to the administration with it. We need to investigate it. Again, I've talked to numerous representatives on the Hill that swear they're going to have hearings on this. And we need to. American people need to know exactly what happened, who is responsible.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Well, the criminal cartels in Mexico, they were born out of the narcotics smuggling industry in Mexico, and they're powerful. Look, they're like a Fortune 500 company. This is not a gang anymore, right? Jalisco cartels, they're in over 45 countries of the world, right?
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And third, he wants me to lead an effort to find the over 300,000 missing children that were trafficked into this country, and this administration cannot locate them.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
and not only are they responsible for moving narcotics in this country, they're currently in every major city in the United States, because not only are they smuggling the drugs in the United States, they're taking over the distribution within the United States, right? So, again... And I said this at the RNC, and President Trump agrees with me.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
These criminal cartels have killed more Americans than every terrorist organization in the world combined. And every war, more than the Second World War. So that's why they need to be designated terrorist organizations and wiped off the face of the earth. And it's going to take the United States to do it. Mexico has failed to do it, even if they tried to do it.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
The bottom line is much of the Mexican military, much of the Mexican law enforcement, much of the Mexican government is corrupt. That's just a fact.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Well, we are. President Trump has threatened terrorists, and the president seems to say she's going to help. We'll see if her actions match her words. But President Trump has a lot of power over Mexico. Look, the terrorists alone, Mexico needs us more than we need them, right? And look, I'm not saying every cop, every soldier, every politician in Mexico is corrupt, but many are.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
That's just a fact. When I was ICE director, we had vetted units we worked with. Law enforcement down there, we vetted them so we can work with them. But we didn't even tell the vetted units everything we know because we just couldn't be sure, right? But President Trump has a lot of leverage.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Remember, when I became board vice-president in 1984, one of my first assignments out of the academy was protecting a port of entry in Tecate, California, because we had a DEA agent that was tortured and murdered, Kiki Camerota. I think you remember that.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And they wouldn't help us to identify and turn over the people responsible for it. Ronald Reagan shut down a port of entries. And what, it took him two days? All of a sudden, we know who committed the crime, and so President Trump can obviously do that. He can end all the visas now, end the tourist visas, the business visas.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
There's a lot of power he has over Mexico, and he needs, President Trump's willing to do whatever it takes to protect our sovereignty and to protect this country. And he's ready to do it. He proved it the first time, you know, when we made a Mexico program. Mexico didn't want to do that. 30 safe country agreements. Mexico didn't want to do that.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
They didn't want to put 10,000 military on their border. But President Trump threatened them with tariffs, and they came to the table.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I'm 100% with you, and that's why I've been pushing for Mexico to come to the table and be accountable. It's against the law in Mexico to trafficking women and children, but they don't do anything about it. It's against the law in Mexico to transit through that country. If you're from another country, well, a transit visa, but they allow it.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
I mean, look at the beast, the big train that thousands of people came up every weekend. They didn't do anything until President Trump got in office and had them put a stop to it. I mean, but the good thing is a lot of countries are willing to come to the table right now. Mexico says they're going to. Let's see what they do. I'll be deeply involved in those conversations.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Panama, Panama wants to come to the table and help the United States secure our border by shutting down the Darien Gap. This administration said they're going to do it. Secretary Mayorkas said he was going to do it. Panama never got any funding to do it. They never got anything done with this administration. They were coming to the table again. We will shut down Darien Gap, but please help us.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
We will help them. Darien Gap, shutting the Darien Gap down would be a huge game changer on illegal migration to this country.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
It's going to be pretty quick. I mean, we're going to come to the table what we need Mexico to do. Remain in Mexico program, a game changer. That needs to happen quickly. That was a game changer. Because after about two months, they stopped coming. They stopped coming because they knew they weren't being released into the United States to not show up in court.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
And even if they show up in court, no one's looking to remove them because on this administration, ICE can't arrest somebody for simply being illegally in the United States. Secretary of Commerce has made that clear. They've got to have a criminal conviction before ICE can even look at them, even though they're illegally here. So the remaining mess goes to game until they stop coming.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
They stop selling... Everything they had, giving the cartels every dollar they had to come to the United States to be released. When the Remain in Mexico program came into place, they stopped coming. When they stopped coming, look at the lives that were saved. Look at the money that was saved.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
If someone is really escaping fear and persecution from their homeland, from their government, home government, if they're really escaping fear and persecution, they're gonna be willing to wait in Mexico for the hearing.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Well, that was the genius of the Remain in Mexico program, right? Because President Trump, I remember sitting in the Oval Office one day, we were talking about this, and I was trying to explain to him, and he understood clearly what the whole situation on asylum is. I told him that if you look at the data, immigration court data, about 9 out of 10 people who claim asylum at our border...
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
never get relief from the U.S. government because they simply don't qualify or they don't show up in court. Then you look at the Homeland Security Lifecycle Report, a report that's put up by Homeland Security, for instance, family units, for those that were already removed, only 6% leave.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
So when I explained to President Trump, 9 out of 10 don't even have a valid claim, but when that 9 out of 10 gets order removed, 6% leave. He says, you know, it didn't take him long to say, why the hell are we doing this? So let's not let him in. Let's have a Remain in Mexico program. If you really escape infirm persecution, you wait in Mexico.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
If you win your case, which are very few, welcome to the United States. But if you don't win your case, we don't have to go find you. And we're not putting this message out of catch and release so people keep coming, knowing they're going to be released in the United States, at the same time knowing when they lose their case, no one's looking to remove them. That whole dynamic's going to change.
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Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good
Yes. Right? Because I've said, I've been real clear since the day President Trump appointed me, if you're in the country illegally, you've got a problem. Right? If we don't take the judge's order, immigration court, when you order, you're removed. He gets a deportation officer, deportation order. If we don't execute those orders, then what the hell are we doing? Shut down the immigration court.