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Chapter 1: What is the One Big Beautiful Bill?
everybody welcome to the charlie kirk show from the bitcoin mobile studio andrew colvett in for the one and only charlie kirk who's traveling in the united kingdom we talk about the one big beautiful bill what's in it what's good what's bad what needs to be corrected and how can we get to the finish line also we have borders are tom homan who says why he loves the bill why he needs the bill more internal enforcement more border security more tech more
That part is key. If President Trump was elected for any reason, it was because of immigration. He was elected for a lot of reasons, but that issue is key. And we have Borders Art, Tom Homan himself coming on to explain why he needs this bill to get his job done. Let's dive into it. Buckle up. Here we go.
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Chapter 2: Why is border security a priority in the bill?
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All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. Andrew Colbert in for the one and only Charlie Kirk, who is traveling the globe. He's in the United Kingdom today. Lots of fun stuff. He just debated at Cambridge yesterday about it was legitimately about 400 students to one. Very raucous crowd. I'm excited to hear his feedback on that today. He's going to be at Oxford. So say a prayer.
The truth would get out and the conservative values would continue spreading across the globe. The revival that we see in the United States would happen abroad. But I do not want to waste any time. We have a very special guest. This is Borders are Tom Homan joining the show. Mr. Borders are welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show.
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So I want to jump right in. This big one big, beautiful bill. One of the main priorities is securing the border, but mass deportations as well. Tell us what's in the bill that you love, that you're excited about, that your border agents need, the border security needs.
Well, look, it's going to add more border agents, Border Patrol agents to the border, along with OFO, which are the people who work the port of entries. It's going to add more technology to the port of entries, so we see more drugs and more contraband coming through.
Still speeding up the legal trade, but having the most recent up-to-date technology to move traffic quicker, but still catch the contraband. It's going to help us finish the wall. I mean, not only finish the wall, you know, several hundred miles of the wall, but it's going to also bond several hundred miles of water buoys, buoys placed in the river that are actually very, very effective.
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Chapter 3: What resources does the bill allocate for ICE?
Chapter 4: How will this bill improve border patrol capabilities?
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So I want to jump right in. This big one big, beautiful bill. One of the main priorities is securing the border, but mass deportations as well. Tell us what's in the bill that you love, that you're excited about, that your border agents need, the border security needs.
Well, look, it's going to add more border agents, Border Patrol agents to the border, along with OFO, which are the people who work the port of entries. It's going to add more technology to the port of entries, so we see more drugs and more contraband coming through.
Still speeding up the legal trade, but having the most recent up-to-date technology to move traffic quicker, but still catch the contraband. It's going to help us finish the wall. I mean, not only finish the wall, you know, several hundred miles of the wall, but it's going to also bond several hundred miles of water buoys, buoys placed in the river that are actually very, very effective.
And it's going to save lives because once a lot of illegal aliens see that buoy that you can't get over, you can't get under it, They won't risk getting in a river and drowning. It's going to save a lot of lives.
But the technology, even the existing wall, the new wall that President Trump built under 45, Joe Biden came in and not only ended building more wall, but ended the technology that went into the existing wall. that allows agents to have, you know, if you touch the wall, we know. If you dig under the wall, we know.
If you climb the wall, we know, because there's all sorts of technology within that wall. But most importantly, within that technology, you give border patrol agents ability to talk to one another in dead areas. There's a lot of areas on the border where there is no radio tower. There is no capability of a repeater system. So an agent's got to have an emergency, talk to another agent for backup.
There are some dead areas on the border. That's going to improve communications all across the border. So that's... It's going to fund that in the borders. We can finish what we started. The border is more secure in a lifetime. We've got to finish the job. This could be the first administration ever to have total operational control of our southern borders. We need to finish it.
We need money to do that. As far as interior operations, that funds more ICE agents. It's going to fund more detention beds, which we really seriously need. Right now we've got about 50,000 in detention. We need 100,000 beds to even put a dent in detention. what we're trying to do here.
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Chapter 5: What challenges does ICE face in deportations?
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All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Charlie Kirk is on assignment in the United Kingdom. We're excited to hear updates as they come. I'm your guest host, Andrew Colvett. Honored to be with you, as always, when I get the opportunity. So today, the big news, as we said, Tom Homan on a great American, absolute patriot.
But the big news today is that President Trump visited Capitol Hill to go whip votes for his one big, beautiful bill. Now, if I could lay out the landscape for you, it's essentially this. You've got the SALT holdouts. Now, this is despite the fact that they've increased SALT deductions from about $12,000 to $30,000. New York congressmen like Rep.
Lawler are saying that's not going to be good enough. LaLotta, the same. I think they're out way over their skis on this. If somebody who lives in California would personally benefit from something like this, they're way out over their skis. And I'll tell you why. Because this is going to get to the U.S. Senate, and there are approximately this many senators that care about These SALT deductions.
It's different than the House. In the House, you can have conservatives that are elected in districts that are conservative in a blue state. That's not the case with the United States Senate. Those are statewide races. And if you are a conservative, you're not going to win those races. Right. So that's why it's going to go and die in the U.S. Senate. And so the SALT folks need to take a win.
They need to take a middle ground. And get to a point now, Speaker Johnson offered a 40,000 for four years deduction and then it would revert back. They said that's not good enough. They're asking for 50 over 10 years guaranteed or something approximately at that point.
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Chapter 6: What is the impact of sanctuary cities on enforcement?
Now, we want to help all states, but we don't want to encourage blue states that are taxing at a huge high rate, and then they get rewarded for it, and the federal government bails them out. We want to encourage good behavior. We want to incentivize good behavior. The other issue... is Medicaid and Medicare, okay?
Medicare, the Democrats are going out there and they are saying that Republicans are going to cut Medicare. They're going to cut Medicaid. That's not true. There's a lot of waste, fraud, and abuse. There's illegal aliens. There's murderers, known murderers that are taking... Medicaid. Now, Medicaid is designed to help those. It's mean tested. So that means it's designed to help those that need it.
Right. The poor working class, pregnant mothers. And there's a lot of waste, fraud and abuse. So let's hear it in President Trump's own words so we can get this out of the way.
The only thing we're cutting is waste, fraud and abuse. We're not changing Medicaid and we're not changing Medicare and we're not changing Social Security.
He says it very clearly. We're not changing. We're just getting rid of waste, fraud and abuse. That's a really big thing to get rid of. And by the way, there is so much waste, fraud, and abuse in Medicaid that I don't think the average American can fully appreciate. And the Democrats are hopping up and down, screaming, crying. That is misplaced outrage. That's a lie. That's fear-mongering.
That's not what's happening here. Let's get to another person that you may not expect to hear from in the Medicaid debate, and that's RFK Jr. Now, obviously, as Secretary of Health and Human Services, he knows a thing or two about what's going on in the health space.
So do you disagree with the cuts that are being proposed for Medicaid right now?
Oh, the cuts to... You know, this is a... I don't know if you understand this or whether you're just mouthing, you know, the Democratic talking boys. The cuts to Medicaid are... For fraud, waste and abuse. And I'll tell you what that means. We were able to determine and it's about eight million people who would be affected because of Doge.
We were able to determine that there are a million people who are claiming Medicaid from multiple states. That's illegal.
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Chapter 7: How does the bill address waste and fraud in Medicaid?
Chapter 8: What are the expected outcomes if the bill is passed?
We're increasing university endowment tax for these big woke institutions. We're revoking taxes against status for nonprofits that materially support terrorism. We're doubling the jail time for leaks of confidential taxpayer information. We're eliminating big businesses' ability to engage in woke PR campaigns to facilitate refundability for green energy projects.
We're incentivizing federal workforce to be at-will employees, and we're repealing Biden's disastrous EV mandate. So let's give it its due.
This bill is beautiful. There is a lot of big beautifulness in this bill. We like this bill. Directionally, this bill is great, okay? What we're talking about is fighting over the edges, but those edges can have massive implications, especially when it comes to Medicare, Medicaid, pardon me, Medicaid, the Medicaid scam that some of these states pull. is incredible.
Now we're getting rid of these able-bodied subsidies, right? So if somebody is able to work and they're not working and we're still funding them, this is the number one area of expansion of the federal budget. And nobody is seriously trying to fight this except for these four holdouts. So my sympathies lie with them. Genuinely. And I want to hear from Rep. Andy Harris here.
Bottom line is if we don't get significant spending reduction, this bill is not going anywhere this week. We were warning about it in the Freedom Caucus for for really years that we have to get our debt and deficit in order. You know, they're whistling past the graveyard. It's like that never happened. But it did happen. And we have to get back to pre-COVID spending levels wherever we can.
We certainly can with Medicaid because the fraud, waste and abuse, the gaming of the system, the giving benefits to, you know, two and a half million illegal immigrants. I mean, this is ridiculous. It has to stop. We have a long way to go. We don't get there by Wednesday. And the word is they want to have this vote Wednesday. There's just no way it's passing on Wednesday. He continues.
This is the graph of what the Republican plan is for Medicaid spending over the next 10 years. This assumes that we actually get all the able-bodied, single people without children on Medicaid to agree to work 20 hours a week or volunteer at a church or train. And if we eliminate all the fraud, waste, and abuse, and there's plenty of it,
We're left with at least a 25% increase in Medicaid over the next 10 years from the current spending level. Only in Washington could anyone claim that's a cut.
So that was obviously from the House floor. There is a scam here where... And people... It's wonky. I don't want to get too into the weeds, but it's called FMAP. It's the federal... I'll get the acronym for you in a second. It's the Federal Medical Assistance Percentage. So basically, it's a mean-tested program, meaning that the poorer states get more federal matching dollars than the rich states.
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