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Chapter 1: Who is Tom Homan and what is his background?
tom homan welcome to the show thanks for having me oh thanks for coming we've been trying to get this done since man i feel like it's been like six months we've been playing uh phone tag and trying to get you in here so i just i really appreciate you taking the time and um i've been looking forward to this interview for a very long time and then i and then i thought it i just thought it would never happen as as busy as you are so i'm busy but i'm i'm glad i'm here i think this is uh
You've got a huge bandwidth, and American people need to know what's happening in this country right now. Thank you.
Thank you. So I'd like to do a life story on you on the front half of the interview and kind of talk about your journey into becoming the border czar and some of the events that you faced leading up to that. And then on the back half of the interview, I'd like to do
all current events stuff, everything that's going on at the border, what it was like before, what it's like now, and then some of the measures that you guys are implementing down there and maybe up there too to keep us safe here at home and take care of the issues at hand, which seem to be major issues. So looking forward to it. Let's do it. But everybody starts off with an introduction here.
Tom Holman, border czar under President Trump's second administration, appointed to oversee the nation's border security and interior enforcement operations. A law enforcement veteran with over four decades of experience, starting as a border patrol agent and rising to become one of the most influential officials in U.S. immigration policy. Former acting director of of U.S.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement serving from January 2017 to June 2018, where you shaped some of the most talked about immigration policies of the Trump era. Your man of the year from, congratulations on that, from the National Police Defense Foundation and Border Hero Award from America's Voice. I think those both came out last week. Yeah, last week. Congratulations. Congratulations.
And, yeah, you know. I waited to tell everybody that you were coming on just because of who you are and all the security and stuff. And it was funny, when I finally broke the news last week, for whatever reason, everybody that works for me started giving me their birth certificates and passports. So I don't know what's going on, but they're pretty tuned in.
But yeah, so a couple other things real quick. Everybody gets a gift. I got you two gifts. The famous gummies. Vigilance League gummy bears made here in the USA, legal in all 50 states. It's just candy until RFK outlaws it. So, but, and then another thing. Thank you. You're welcome. Found out you're a Catholic this morning. Yes, sir. And so I want to give you one of those.
One of my really good friends, Dom Razo. Thanks.
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Chapter 2: What motivated Tom Homan to join law enforcement and the Border Patrol?
Some of them vet through terrorist screening database, but you and I both know most terrorists in this world aren't in any database.
Yeah.
Unless they were part of a T3 investigation or encountered on a battlefield or You know, there's a lot of terrorists in this world. They're not in any database. So when they say they vetted these people, they vetted them through a weak system.
Well, on top of that, I mean, we did have a lot of, I mean, not with new ones, but we had a lot of Intel. I mean, we used to use this thing called the hide system. You know, when I was working over there, they would take a retina map or whatever. But when we withdrew from Afghanistan the way we did, we gave all of that up, everything.
And that proves what the vetting was, right? They said they vetted all the Afghani states they brought over here. DODIG, Inspector General, said they weren't properly vetted. So this administration lied about all the vetting procedures. How about the tunnels? Tunnels are big in California. We're starting to see some now in Arizona. We got some pretty good tunnel technology.
But the more we find, the more they dig. But this administration upping, we got a lot of really smart companies cutting us. Companies are coming to the table with tunnel technology. Some are pretty sophisticated. How do those work? Oh, they're simple. They'll dig the tunnel down in Mexico and it comes up usually now inside of a building. less attention.
They'll come up outside of a like a corporate plaza, they'll come up inside of a warehouse or building. There's some, I don't want to discuss the technology, I don't want to show our hand, but there's a lot of latest technology to help us find those tunnels. But we're finding many. But there's some we, you know, again, as we shut down a tunnel, none of it was being dug.
So it's a cat and mouse game on the tunnels. We shut down a lot of them. Some are very sophisticated. They're lighted and air conditioned. You know, you can take carts through there. Some you got to crawl through. We just, they're using the, you know, The drainage pipes in El Paso, they'll just go through a city drainage area. They use some of that sometimes.
But we got that pretty much under control. But tunnel digging is increasing just because the border's locked down. So again, the cartels aren't going to go away. They're going to think of another reason, another method to get in the United States. That's why maritime, we're seeing a maritime increase now. A lot more taken to, you know,
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