Shawn Ryan
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Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Right on, man. There's a lot of money at stake here for those companies, Raytheon, Lockheed, Northrop Grumman, companies like that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Does that make sense? It does make sense. It does make sense. All right, let's break from warfare for a second and let's rewind. Let's go back to your life story. Where did you grow up? Grew up in Fremont, California, the East Bay, near Silicon Valley.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Who's the best chess player in the family?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
You're a Stanford-educated visionary who co-founded Palantir Technologies, a company that's become synonymous with big data and analytics, helping governments and businesses worldwide to make smarter, more informed decisions. After Palantir, you ventured into the world of finance and founded Adipar. revolutionizing how wealth management works, making it transparent and data-driven.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Nice, nice. What kind of games were you into?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
How old are you?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Okay, so same age. So yeah, you grew up with Nintendo. Nintendo, Super Nintendo. Right on. Yeah, all that kind of stuff. Right on. What got you so interested in tech?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
No kidding. Yeah. What was it like, I mean, I don't remember what it was like back then, but Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Sachs, Reid Hoffman, I mean, were these big names in the space?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Of the nine U.S. defense unicorns, billion-dollar companies, you founded three and were one of the earliest investors in another three. You're deeply invested in education reform. You co-founded Cicero, an organization dedicated to advancing educational opportunities and policy to transform lives and societies.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
It's good to have you in there. After PayPal, you went on to build in social media. What were you doing in there?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
What caught your interest in national security? It sounds like you made a switch there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I don't remember that at all. How long did it take you guys to solve that problem?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Your influence extends into policy with your involvement in 8VC, a venture capital firm that doesn't just fund startups, it pushes for policies that encourage innovation. You've been an advisor to leading political figures, advocating for a future where technology and policy work hand in hand to solve our biggest challenges.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
From a layman's term, it seems like it helps predict
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
You shape the ideas of the future with your op-eds and articles that often delve into intersection of tech, policy, and culture. You're a father of five kids. You just had your first son, and you've been married for eight years. Yep, that's right. Congratulations on your son. Thank you, Sean. He's not a second percentile. He's a big little baby. Yeah? Nice. Healthy boy, huh? Yeah. Well...
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
100%.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
man that's uh that's great to hear i don't have much trust in anybody in government but um there's some good ones every once in a while who really care and you just gotta partner with those you know becoming one of the top serial entrepreneurs in the 2000s i mean what are some what are some lessons learned you know when it comes to building companies you know
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I didn't ask this about your childhood, but I'm curious. Did you grow up in a fairly wealthy household?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Joe, I want to do a, I want to do a life story on you starting from childhood and get into all of your different companies and involvement, uh, with different things that you're in. But, um, but it just so happens that, uh, you know, I've been super interested in your company, Epirus. And, uh, I've had several conversations with your business partner, Grant for standing and, um, and, uh, love him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
How did you... How did you get going? You're talking about lessons learned and basically what you're saying is hire the best tech people there are. How were you able to find the capital to afford to bring that in?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Wow. What kind of percentage of ownership are your shares like?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Wow. How long did it take you to start? I mean, was there a turning point?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Man, that's super inspiring. So from Palantir, what was next for you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Amazing guy. But, uh, We got a situation going on literally right now in New Jersey with all these drones, and nobody seems to know what it is. So I just want to kind of start the interview right there. What the hell do you think these drones are? This is funny.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Very interesting. Very interesting. We're talking about all things pretty much AI. What is powering all this stuff? Because AI takes a tremendous amount of energy, from what I understand.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Do you know anybody that's working with cold fusion?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Can you go into a little bit of that? Because I don't think people understand why... cheaper energy would really help the economy and middle-class, lower-class homes. Oh, yeah. I mean, this is the cost of everything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
It was like two years ago, we're freaking out about a spy balloon traversing the United States from Washington all the way down to South Carolina.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Do you think that big oil and gas lobbyists have something to do with it?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I'm hoping. I mean, a lot of people, me included, are very concerned about our power grid. Yeah. And so I would like to kind of hang out on this subject for a little bit. Sure. A lot of people are seeing rolling blackouts. The power grid structure is extremely outdated. It's old. It doesn't seem like it's getting updated anytime soon. How much is our outdated power grid holding us back?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Are you concerned that China manufactures a lot of our energy equipment?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
That makes a lot of sense to me. Where do we start with updating the grid? We're talking everything from power lines to power plants to transformers.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
We read every review that comes through, and we really appreciate the support. Thank you. Let's get back to the show. All right, Joe, we're back from the break. We had a little side conversation about the incoming administration, and we're both pretty fired up about it. Who are you most excited about? Do you have anybody in particular?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I mean, how fast do you think they're going to start cleaning this stuff up?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I mean, where do you think they're going to start? You think they'll go from agency to agency? Will they do it in sections or will it be all one big sweep at different stages?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I assume it's ours because if it's not, that's insane. Why wouldn't they fly this over Area 51 or some testing grounds?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Yeah, I'm ecstatic that Cash got in there. I think he is going to do a phenomenal job. What do you think about Chris Wray resigning? Why do you think he did that? I think these guys are probably afraid at this point.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Do you think we're going to see some mass pardons?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I've never thought of that. Interesting. Well, let's move back into... I know we already talked a lot about Epirus, but I'm just fascinated with the subject. So how did that even pop up on your radar? What was going through your head when it started?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Yeah.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Do you think this might be a distraction? From something going on in the Middle East? I don't know, maybe some... Some bad juju's going on somewhere else and they're just throwing these things up to distract everybody.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
So what would you point the weapon at? If you wanted to take out a, could you take out a city?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
What other type of stuff are these things going to be deployed on? Naval ships, I would assume.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Well, I mean... Drone warfare is becoming obviously very prevalent. Absolutely critical.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
100%.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
So, you know, people... One of the reasons I'm bringing this up is obviously I'm just extremely curious of what your thoughts are. But another reason is, I mean... You know, I've been reading reports on CNN. People are posting the neighborhood watch groups and the Facebook groups and stuff, and people are, they're freaking out. And what I find,
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
You had mentioned that Lockheed, Raytheon, Boeing, these companies, the big guys, you guys are underneath them. Do you see that flipping?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
You know, you had mentioned Facebook kicking him out because of a billboard. What do you think about Zuckerberg trying to get in with the conservative crowd? It's pretty interesting to watch the, you know, I mean, well, four years ago you kicked the president off your platform. Now you want to buddy up? Yeah. What's going on here?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Yeah, I see what you're saying. So you're basically saying he wasn't necessarily the catalyst, but he... He wasn't the George Soros.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
probably isn't a coincidence because I believe in a higher power, but you have, you founded Epirus. And Epirus is a directed energy, basically a directed EMP weapon. And it is, I mean, it seems to me from the reading I've done on it, it's... It's defense against drones.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
You're obviously a major player in tech as well. How have you kept that rot out of your companies? Yeah, you got to.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
That's a great way to put it. That's a great way to put it. Back to the future of warfare. I mean, what are some things that other countries are getting involved in that concern you?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Shit. That wasn't even on my radar. What about technology? Are you worried about, is China developing anything that you're aware of that we should be concerned about? Or does Russia have any technology that they overplayed their hand, maybe?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Wow. Is there anything else you're aware of going on? I mean, that's fascinating in itself.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
That space thing blows my mind. I mean, if that happens, we're not up there already. And with that one meter thing, when you had mentioned you could stop anything else from coming up there, I mean, that right there is global domination.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Wow. That's fascinating. Let's go into Seronic.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Man, you are involved in so many things. How about Anduril? Did I pronounce that correctly?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
100%.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Yeah, yeah. Let's move into... Let's move into fighting for Western civilization and your efforts to combat, basically, wokeness. Yeah. When did you start doing that?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
This is the thing to do right now?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
And when I think of Black Lives Matter, I think of burning towns down.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
What is the magazine?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Man, man.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I mean, it seems like you guys are getting a lot of interest in there. I saw it was on 60 Minutes. What is the media saying? It sounds like there's a lot of trolls.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Man, I love it. I love it. Let's move into the Cicero Institute. Yeah. What is it? Cicero Institute is our policy group.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Amazing.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Joe Lonsdale, welcome to the show. Thanks, Sean. Glad to be here. Man, I am super excited to talk to you. I've been following what you've been doing and a lot of your different companies for a while now, and... I know you're a busy guy, and I just want to say it's an honor to have you here.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
No.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
That's amazing. That's amazing to hear. I also see you're involved in trying to fix the prison and parole systems.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
What else are you working on? That's a lot. I don't know. That's fun, man. I mean, how do you... You're involved in so many things. You've got five kids, you're married. I mean, how do you manage both the tech companies, the University of Austin, everything that you're involved in? How do you?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
How do you recruit them? I'm curious because I'm trying to build my company out and I have no business sense.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Right on, man. Right on. Do you have anything particular, one of your ventures that you're the most excited about?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
So how many... How many drones could one of these, what do you call the actual weapon? Is it Leonidas?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
congratulations you're doing just phenomenal things not only for the country but for the world and well i'm honored to be part of this stuff that all these other amazing people are doing too that i get to invest in and get to back and try to help because our man we live in an awesome civilization there's so many smart people doing so many great things here and we should be more positive about that you know i'm i am uh i'm just honored to have you here and and i'm so thankful that we met that you're an amazing human being who are three people you'd like to see on this show
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
At some point, you've got to get Elon on, of course.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I'll let him know. But, Joe, it was seriously, it was an honor to have you here, and I hope to see you again. I really do. Thank you, son. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Wow. Wow. I'm just... So that gives us hope. So basically, all these drones in New Jersey, if we wanted to, they could deploy a Leonidas. Take it down that way.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Yeah, I mean, we just, I had a former CIA targeter in here just a couple days ago. We just released the interview now and actually yesterday. And she's talking about, you know, there are at least 1,000 very well-trained terrorists within our borders right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
You're involved in so much with technology, and also I love what you're doing with the University of Austin. I'd love to hit on that, but I really appreciate you coming, and I've been looking forward to diving into this for a long time. I'm excited to be here. It's an honor to be on the show. Thank you. Thank you.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Do you think that they want something to happen for a particular reason? to start a war? It's possible. I mean, if they come in... Yeah, it's possible. And do another terrorist attack, then we go right back to war. That spins up the military-industrial complex.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Yeah, you know, that's one of the things, that's one of the things I love about what you're doing is, you know, with the traditional military industrial complex companies, you know, we're shooting down $500 drones with million-dollar missiles. It's crazy, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
With a company like what you have, Epirus, it's not that way. It's an energy weapon.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
But everybody starts off with an introduction and we could go on for probably an hour here, but I tried to summarize it up here. Joe Lonsdale, you're a real titan of industry and innovation, a man whose journey from Silicon Valley to the halls of policymaking reads like a modern-day epic.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
For those guys, that's funny.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source. It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world. And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign super bad. She's made two different appearances here on The Sean Ryan Show. And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind blowing. And so I've asked her if she would contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So it's gonna be all things terrorists, how terrorists are coming up through the southern border, how they're entering the country, how they're traveling, what these different terrorist organizations throughout the world are up to. And here's the best part, the newsletter is actually free. We're not gonna spam you. It's about one newsletter a week, maybe two if we release two shows.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
There's been some more congressmen that have gotten involved with this. But even our two senators here in Tennessee, I personally spoke to one of them. to get this pushed because it got stopped at the Senate and it just fell on deaf ears. It fell on deaf ears. Our Congress here, excuse me, not our Congress, our Senate here, our government is not taking this seriously.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And these senators, these congressmen that aren't taking this seriously need to be held accountable. And so I would urge the audience to pay attention to what your congressmen and what your senators are doing because if they don't take this stuff seriously, as we saw on January 1st in New Orleans, people are going to die. They're going to die.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And moving back, just rewind in just a minute back to the terrorist, the follow-on attacks, and you were talking about the kind of the Second Amendment here in the U.S. and how that could play a role in stopping attacks as they happen. Do you think that
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
or maybe do you know, not do you think, do you know if these terrorist organizations, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Taliban, Al-Shabaab, the Islamic Brotherhood, I believe that's what they're going by now, do they take that into account in their intelligence gathering? Do they look at
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
this country does not is that its citizens are unable to defend itself this state has very strict gun rights or no gun rights they're not able to defend themselves don't go to tennessee where where everybody here carries a gun to defend themselves do they Are they aware of that and do they take that into account?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You're talking about the states that have defunded the police. Yeah.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
They're in tune with us.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And they take that into account.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And now that people know that, people are paying attention. And so I know that takes a lot of courage to come out here and be on this show. And so thank you for being here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Interesting. Interesting. You know, I've thought a lot about this, and not only with terrorist organizations, but also the Iranians, the Russians, the Chinese. I mean, in my opinion, it would have been... not in their best interest to attack under the Biden administration, because the weakening of the country is just happening at such a rapid pace. And I try to think like them.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And so if I were them,
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
i would have waited until that election happened to see who was going to win to see if the country would continue to weaken and if it had continued to weaken under a harris administration which it would have uh with the open borders with the immigration policies with the with basically just the negligence that we saw throughout throughout the entire country and and in the world if i were them i would not have attacked until
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
until a stronger president comes into power. Because at that point, the weakening stops and it starts to strengthen. And so what I thought they would do is they would hit us at our weakest point, which they did on January 1st.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And keep infiltrating.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And just a quick introduction. Today, we're going to hide your identity. We'll call you Jane Doe, due to the nature of your work combating terrorism. Again, welcome to the show. You're one of the leading experts in the world regarding the Al Qaeda terrorist network. You're an ISAF veteran and former intelligence analyst. He completed multiple tours in Afghanistan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Sarah had mentioned that there is at least 1,000 terrorists that have infiltrated the United States. I'm surprised that it's not more, but it sounds like that Sarah only reports facts or gathers factual information. And so I'm curious as to your insight, are there more than 1,000 confirmed terrorists that have set up sleeper cells within the United States?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What do you mean by facilitators?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So they will find these facilitators at those protests.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So these thousand, these thousand plus that are confirmed to be within the United States borders, Are they grouped together in pairs? Are they singletons all throughout the United States? Is there a thousand different locations that all these people are at and those are the facilitators? Those are recruiters, those are facilitators, those are planners on future attacks?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Or are they grouping up in 10 different places in 100? Are they grouping up into... 20 different places of 50, or do you understand what I'm saying?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do we have any confirmations of where they may be?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Thank you for sitting down with us today. This conversation is going to help a lot of people. And this is from Sarah. I was texting with her this morning. And so... A lot of people have a lot of faith in Sarah Adams and what she has to say because things are happening that she said would happen, multiple things, both overseas and here. And so she texted me this morning. She said, Jane is humble.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Why are they formulating these narratives? Why don't they just call it for what it is? Is it to try to contain mass hysteria or try to contain fear throughout the population? Or... is it they don't want to bring light on terrorist organizations or what why are they coming up with these narratives
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's basically to save the wrong power. They don't want to talk about it because they don't want to be removed or elected out or removed from power. So they want everybody to know, hey, it's safe. This is just a one-off. This is a spinoff. This is nothing to be worried about. It's just a coincidence that this happened. They don't want the fear to come. They don't want to...
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
They don't want to reveal the truth of what's going on because if they did, they would show how incompetent they actually are in office.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
We saw that. We've seen that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's an ideology problem.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Well... Well, you know, I'm... i'm really concerned i know every time i cover this more and more people get concerned i'm actually extremely concerned that sebastian gorka took the director of counter-terrorism role here within the united states the guy has zero background i don't know why he was placed in that position he doesn't know what he's doing and uh hopefully somebody
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
more competent takes that role like Scott Mann or Sarah Adams. Speaking of Scott Mann, Sarah Adams, this is another, I don't know if I'd call it a positive, but I just want the audience to know that there are people out there that are that are trying to reach local communities. I know you're a big part of this. Scott Mann, retired Lieutenant Colonel Green Beret out of Special Forces.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Sarah Adams, former CIA intelligence analyst and targeter. I know you're involved in this. You guys are coming out with a book called The Gathering Storm. And Scott Mann and Sarah have been flying around the country
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
to anybody that will listen to what they're trying to to to what they're saying to try to prepare the local communities as our politicians continue to fail in fact they're coming here to my county to brief an entire panel at our sheriff's department uh i talked to the sheriff they're coming here we're having we're actually having a panel here coming up on on everything that they've uncovered
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
But you not only have the number one expert in the world right now on AQ central leadership, but she has completely infiltrated them. What is in her head will save lives, no doubt. Have a great interview." And so if Sarah says that, that carries a lot of weight, not only with me, but to this audience and as the audience grows more into the global scale.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
and um and along with with you uh what you've uncovered because i know they take everything that you have uh very seriously and so so that's what they're doing but but and and so sheriff's departments police departments lots of uh local governments uh very small communities are they're listening as our federal government state government continue to to fail us.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And so can you talk a little bit about what the Gathering Storm operation looks like and what exactly it is?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You don't? No, we don't. Even after what happened at the Christmas market, nobody's listening?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You need to move here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Well, I can answer that question right now. What if you're wrong? Well, what if you are wrong? Well, then we're all better prepared for what might come. And you're right. What if you're right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Which January 1st proved that you are.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You've infiltrated all of these terrorist organizations, number one being al-Qaeda, correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How did you do that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, it seems that the local Afghan populace is obviously very concerned. They made a lot of headway when we were there and now that's completely demolished. And then, you know, another thing that Sarah told us is that Hansa bin Laden is still alive, even after we reported that apparently he was dead.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And so it's to my understanding that Hansa bin Laden is marrying into all these different terrorist networks. He's married into the Taliban, Al-Jabab, Al-Qaeda, all these terrorist networks to form the Islamic Brotherhood. And so now he's basically taken, would you call them competitors?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
He's taking competitors and he's united them all with one common goal being... Yeah. ...being to take out the West.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
They do. Why are they hiding that? I believe so. Why did they try to hide that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
MI6 reported him alive. Am I correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What other countries' intelligence organizations are now reporting that, revealing that he's alive?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Real quick, NDS is basically, was basically the Afghanistan's version of MI6 or CIA. It was their intelligence. It's their intelligence organization. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Wow. Wow. Wow. Do you think that... We'll get more into Hansa here in a bit, but one thing, too, I just want to say that we spoke about the gathering storm. Look, this is the best of what we have right now, and it's coming from a former intelligence targeter, yourself, former current intel analyst, Scott Mann, retired Lieutenant Colonel Green Beret. We're going to link that below. This is...
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Right now, this is pretty much the only way to prepare yourself, your community, get that to your local leaders. We'll link that below for everybody to take advantage of. It's not even out yet, but I'm not sure when it releases, but it will be very soon. I spoke to Scott last night and he said he's finished with it. One more thing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Before we move into all the other stuff that we're going to talk about, do you think these terrorist organizations will start to target specific individuals, much like what we saw with Joe Kent's wife, who the former DIA intelligence officer, a really good friend of mine, Scotty Wertz, was killed in that. He was protecting her, and they targeted them at a restaurant, made a car bomb, blew them
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
killed him with a car bomb and do you think that we'll start to see individuals within europe within the united states will there be individual targets or will in addition to mash casualty events
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Meaning cartels?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Why would they target an individual like Elon Musk? Is that for the press or do they have something personally against him?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And the economics, why would they go after somebody with economics?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do they have a history of this? In my time in service, I don't remember seeing a gross amount of information saying that individuals would be targeted. It was always locations like coasts. The station at Kabul, Kandahar, you know, the black base that was down there. I mean, I've never, I can't say never, but I don't recall seeing individual targets. Is this a new thing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Well, we've got a lot of different subjects to dive into. First, everybody gets a gift. It'll be the only light part of the interview that we have here. So here you go.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So it was a longer play.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Why does this all stem in Afghanistan? Why is this not stemming more in Yemen or Iran? Why is Afghanistan such a key country for festering terrorism?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So, how are they communicating? How are they, how are the, it sounds like all of the leadership, excuse me, all of the leadership is within the Afghanistan borders, correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And so now that it's a safe area for terrorism, how are they communicating with their leadership throughout Europe and in the United States?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
They don't trust... So, they don't have a digital footprint.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
This is all...
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What kind of message, like signal, protein?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Right on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Wow. And so all of the thousand-plus that have infiltrated the United States, the thousand-plus that have infiltrated Europe, none of these entities are communicating with each other within the borders. It's all coming from Central Command, which would be stationed in Afghanistan. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
and uh and they're made here in the usa so uh those are hard to come by as we're sold out again but and then the other thing before we do uh start the interview i have a patreon account patreon's a subscription network and so one of the things we do they've been around here forever uh since before i even started this show i used to teach tactics
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
They don't know what each other's doing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You know, myself was... So the only way that it could get leaked is by two points. The single point within the United States and the single point within Afghanistan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
They couldn't. So basically, for those that don't understand what I'm saying by compartmentalization is if let's say that the FBI raids a sleeper cell within the United States, that sleeper cell will not have any information when it comes to what the other 999 sleeper cells within the US borders or within Europe's borders is doing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
The only way to infiltrate it is at the head, which would be in Afghanistan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What is your experience with them?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
The organizations or the individuals?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I haven't. Who is that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And what are these lobbyists doing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
which is weird saying that seeing what this has developed into. But one of the things that I do for them is I offer them an opportunity to ask each and every guest a question. They've been with us here since the beginning. They're the reason that I get to sit here and the reason that you get to sit here. And so this is kind of the least I can do for my community.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
But I want to get into more about Al Qaeda. So what are some of the leadership changes that you're seeing within that organization right now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And so this question is from Kyle M. When dealing with a threat such as a VBIED or any other explosion, mass shooting kind of event, what are the proper precautions to take when analyzing for potential secondary attacks? And then there's a follow-on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Are you serious? The people that the U.S. trained?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do they have different tiers within the organization? Do they have like how U.S. military is set up? They have tier one organizations being Team Six, Delta. They have conventional forces, the infantry. Is it broken up like that into tiered units?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Such as more shooters and secondary explosions, how does someone know whether to stay, fight, help the wounded, or retreat to a known safe location until the chance of a secondary threat is greatly mitigated?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
We're going to start seeing that everywhere.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Have they ever been more effective than they are now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, it's all our equipment.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's all U.S. equipment.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I was going somewhere. I'm trying to regain my train of thought. The info that you're putting out is just... It's hard to keep a thought. It's hard to keep a thought. Can you explain what the Islamic army is and who all is involved?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I really appreciate you coming. Sarah Adams, a really good friend of mine and repeat guest on Sean Ryan Show, connected us about a month ago, I think. And so I know you're traveling from overseas. We'll not say where, but she says that you are the world's leading expert on Al Qaeda. And I've been talking to Sarah, Scott Mann, legend.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
That's on the outline.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Something that's on, speaking of the airlines, and I'm switching gears here a little bit, a couple things. I want to talk about the invisible bomb that Sarah Adams has been discussing. We've talked about it several times. In fact, there's a really good discussion on it on our X Spaces. I think that's what they call it. But I want to talk about the invisible bomb.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And I also want to talk about, let's start here. Scott Mann obviously has a lot of sources and is really tied in with this stuff as well. I know I don't want to mention any names who he's involved with. I don't know if I should or not. I think it's okay, but I'll keep that quiet. But he's really tied in with...
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
some of the people that were in nds uh as i mentioned before nds is the the was the afghanistan's version of cia mi6 it's an intelligence organization and he got reports that they are um al-qaeda these terrorist organizations the islamic army is predicting 50 to 60 000 casualties within the United States alone. We talk about 9-11 was a $500,000 budget. Now we're sending $40 to $87 million. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You know. Is there any, through your network, have you heard anything about 50 to 60,000 casualties?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What kind of services? Power grid? Those type of services? Water? We're talking police departments?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Let's dive in a little more specifically. Let's talk about the economic impact. How would that affect the economy?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Man, I didn't even think about that. I did not even think about that. So the hospitals will be overflowed. The first responders being the police, that will be completely taxed. There won't be enough of them to go around. We already talked about proper allocation of resources, which would be extremely hard to do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You know, so it's... Let's talk about the invisible bomb. Are you familiar with this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
A dog can't sniff it. So this could easily get onto airlines, pretty much anywhere that doesn't have the body scan machine, which most, I don't know how many airports have that now, but I think it's pretty safe to say that
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Even some large airports don't.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I mean, even airplanes, I mean, that would be devastating. But, you know, we're just talking airports. What about major arenas, stadiums, concerts, football games, baseball games, hockey games, speaking events, hospitals, schools? I mean, the list goes on. Nobody has this type of technology except the major hub airports within the United States,
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Even some major hubs haven't even implemented this type of technology with the body scan yet.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How big is this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Is it about, I mean, how thin is it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What kind of devastation are we talking about?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Could it, I mean, could it, would it, could it take a building out?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Okay, so it wouldn't be like a VBID?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It wouldn't be as devastating as the typical... suicide bomber that wears a vest no be a somewhat of a i don't want to say minimal explosion but compared to what we've seen um overseas with with a vest full of explosives or a car full of explosives it wouldn't
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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So even the fragmentation is not detectable.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Could it be used to initiate something larger? You know, a lot of explosives, you need an initiation to detonate the actual, the bigger explosive. Could this be used to, could they daisy chain it? Yeah. You know what I mean by daisy chain?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Could it be connected to others?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Is anyone listening to this stuff?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Going against the narrative.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yes, I read in your outline that 22 of your assets have been murdered.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Are you serious? Yeah. They were burned by American three-letter agencies? Yes.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I have a feeling this question comes from Kyle Morgan, who was a prior guest on this show, former Delta operator, U.S. Special Forces. And he responded to a terrorist attack, I believe it was al-Shabaab, at the Radisson Blue in Mali. And... I can't remember exactly how long the gunfight was. I believe it was like a 16-hour gunfight slash rescue mission.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, I'd say. Do you know how the agencies are burning the assets?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Jeez. Jeez. Man, it's just gotten so bad. It's gotten so bad. so we talked about simultaneous attacks do you think that is there any intelligence that's saying that that all of these different sleeper cells will attack at the same time or will be a couple here a couple there and just date is sprinkled throughout years or will it be all at once
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So they'll do it on the fly.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
For the audience, human is human intelligence, meaning it's coming direct from humans.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I think one of the most alarming things that you mentioned is that there is no There will be no SIG intelligence, it sounds like, because of the couriers. And so, you know, when I was in, when we were working over there, a lot of it was intercepting cell phones, communication devices. We were able to intercept those text threads, those conversations, those emails.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And now that they're using couriers, it's only down to human, it sounds like.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So China is behind? It's kind of assisting.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How much of the Islamic Army's funding is coming from the minerals that we, well, I guess we didn't give up, that China took control of? I mean, I know there's been negotiations between China and Taliban over the lithium mines. Afghanistan's very rich in lithium. We obviously, we... We just left it to them when we withdrew from Afghanistan.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How much income are the terrorist organizations receiving from China to build these lithium mines?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And when nobody else would answer the call, it was him. And I know that that still haunts him to this day. And now with the threat that we face here in the U.S. and also in Europe, I know this is on everybody's mind. So just to kind of expound on his question here, you know, what... Is there anything that, so let's say it was a IED, a bomb. In my experience being overseas in Afghanistan, that was
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
$500 million.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So less than what the U.S. is funding just in cash.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How does Russia fall under this? I mean, we're obviously... not friendly with Russia as the Russia-Ukraine conflict continues. However, we did see, was it ISIS-K that did the attack on the Russian mall? And so are the Russians, how do I say this? Are the Russians, well, we know China, this, this,
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
We know that China obviously benefits from what the terrorist organizations plan on doing to Europe and the West, being the U.S. Does Canada fall into this at all?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What about South America and Central America?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
No. Okay. So what is Russia's stance on this? Are they taking precautions? I mean, they took a big hit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Well, there was multiple shooters there, wasn't there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And the casualty rate was a lot more.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I mean, they tortured those guys. They tortured those guys that shot those people at the mall.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
wouldn't say all the time but in several cases it was an initiation uh with a follow-on attack of shooters would that would you say that if in a ied a bomb went off in a location it would be could you expect shooters to come are you picking up that kind of Yeah, I think so.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What are they?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How were these guys convoluting with the cartels? You kind of mentioned that earlier, that they had close ties within Mexican cartels.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How long have they been convoluting with cartels?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, they're good at it. They're good at it. What are, what would Al-Qaeda, what is their long-term plan? What is their short-term plan? On top of that, Is it the same long-term, short-term plan for not just al-Qaeda, but for ISIS, for al-Shabaab, for Taliban? Is it all one plan?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
To take over an entire country.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
They just did it in Afghanistan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do you have any idea what country they plan on conquering, taking over Afghanistan?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How much influence do they have within more well-to-do countries throughout the Middle East and East Africa? Do they have influence in Saudi Arabia? Do they have influence in Oman? Do they have influence in United Arab Emirates, countries that are wealthy countries?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Okay.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
We even flew all the way to Vienna to interview Massoud, who's the leader of the National Resistance Front. Kind of took the torch from his dad. who was assassinated by bin Laden just a few days before 9-11. And we've been trying to get out, you know, what Taliban, what al-Qaeda, what ISIS, al-Shabaab, all these terrorist networks have been up to on the show.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What about... western asia or actually any asian countries do they have influence there just i'm trying to get a overall picture of how much influence they have throughout the world so south america central america we know they're among the cartels let's go to asia
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Can you name them?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And this is the long-term plan?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So the taking over countries is a short-term plan?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Okay, so it would be to, it's a diversion.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's a diversion with mass casualty event and then a follow-on attack somewhere else in the city or throughout the country.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Let's move into the caliphate. Can you explain what that is?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Break it down a little bit more basic with the caliphate.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What is it?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yes.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So it's basically a global-type government that falls under Sharia law.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
That's what they want. That's the long-term plan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Like China.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
In their eyes, what... What constitutes a takeover of a country?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Where do they find, what is successful in their minds when it comes to taking over an entire country?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's not necessarily planting a flag.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's how much influence they have over the government.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Are you serious? Mm-mm.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You brought up scientists and innovation just a few minutes ago. What kind of innovations are they doing right now other than this invisible bomb?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So we're potentially facing biological warfare as well.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What kind of biological weapons?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Viruses?
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Where?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What was the outcome?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's working. What else are they innovating?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Thrones and biological warfare.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I don't know how you would handle that. You would have to be very smart about how you allocate resources or have at least a team, maybe a SWAT team or two SWAT teams sitting behind to respond to a follow-on. Do you think we'll see that? So that doesn't just apply to bombs. That would apply to any attack. It could be a diversion.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Let's talk about a little bit about the role of Turkey.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Wow. These guys' network is a lot bigger than I thought.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
GDI. Can you explain what GDI is?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So the GDI is the Taliban's version of CIA?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's an intelligence organization, the Taliban.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
the people who are talking and... So is GDI the intelligence service for not just Taliban, but Al-Qaeda, ISIS? Yeah. So it's basically the Islamic Brotherhood's intelligence service.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It covers, it top covers all of these terrorist organizations.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Where is their headquarters?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What are the departments? How is the GDI broken up?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How long has the GDI been around?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So they have operatives inside the U.S.?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And in Europe?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What are they doing? Are they conducting surveillance? Are they infiltrating media? Are they... What... They're lobbying, obviously.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So the operatives are also developing assets and creating their own networks?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How effective are they compared to an organization like CIA or MI6?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
In what?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Okay.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So when they recruit an asset, are they paying the asset, or are they threatening the asset? Oh, they do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, nor can you carry a weapon.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What have we not covered yet?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What is U.S. intelligence's relationship with Taliban?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do you think that Europe is a lot more vulnerable to this than the United States? Oh, absolutely. Do you think they'll start there?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Back to the GDI. Okay. I forgot to mention this. Is the GDI still holding American hostages? Yes.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How many?
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This is verified?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do you know where he's being held?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What are their plans for this? Are they planning on using our hostages as negotiation? Oh, yes.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Who are the other two?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Are they torturing them?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Why are they torturing him? What do they want to get out of that?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What kind of negotiations do you think they'll initiate with our hostages?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I mean, it's going to be a lot harder to, if we were to go back there, I mean, we've burned all of our allies. Who would come work with us?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And to your knowledge, has there been any attempts to recover our hostages?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Is it even being discussed?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do they have any European hostages?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How many European hostages?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
26 European hostages. And is Europe doing anything to recover the hostages?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, I hope that we stop funding the Taliban.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Are the Europeans even aware that they have hostages?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I have to say this on every show, even though every time we talk about this, even on other shows, when I interviewed Donald Trump, when I interviewed J.D. Vance, I talk about it, but we are currently funding the Taliban, according to legend, Sir Adams and Massoud. The U.S. is currently funding Taliban $40 to $87 million a week. flown in as cash into Afghanistan through NGOs.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Is Europe doing anything to combat what's coming to them?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How would they begin?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How would you define politicized intelligence?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Jeez. I've heard this a couple times. I've heard it from... Congressman at different events that the agency has reached out and told them to stop, just stop talking about it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Cease the conversation. This is done.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, yeah. Out of everything that we talked about, What do you think that the biggest threat to the incoming Trump administration is when it comes to terrorism?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And it was to my understanding, I believe, since the Afghan withdrawal, the Taliban has set up over 900, and this is even six-month-old news, so I'm sure it's more than that, over 900 NGOs, kind of facade NGOs that just funnels the money right back into the terrorist organizations.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do you feel we have any good chess players coming in?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I got a lot of faith in Mike Waltz. He's the incoming National Security Advisor and... I hope he's paying attention. I know he is, but he's got a big job to fill. And two more questions before we end. I already think I know the answer to the one, but is there any possible scenario where we make peace with these organizations?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What recommendations, and this is the last question, what recommendations do you have for the Trump administration? What do they need to fix first?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And it's been really, really hard to kind of get people's attention. The mainstream media just refuses to cover it. I don't know why. And unfortunately, it took the attack on January 1st of 2025 this year to kind of get people
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, me too. Me too. Me too. I don't know exactly where we would start, but... Everything seems reactive now. I think where we would start is prepping the local communities and getting them up to speed on this and allocation of resources, hardening up school security, hardening up arenas, hardening up stadiums, figuring out how we detect these invisible bombs. I think those would be the...
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
In my opinion, those would be the first steps on what we need to do to start to secure this country.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Instead of waiting until the next one happens and then you get that local community ready when it's already going to be somewhere else. And so I think I'm with you. The administration needs to get the local communities to be more proactive. There needs to be more funding. Yeah, you know, I lied. I said there was one last question. I have one more.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
We just saw these wildfires in California, specifically in Los Angeles. i remember correctly al-qaeda said that they would burn our cities to the ground yeah is there a possibility that that have you let's take all speculation out do you have any intelligence from your assets your sources that that was instigated by terrorism
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Did we see, did we discuss the strategy within the interview, a lot of it? Yeah. What are his leadership principles? What stuck out to you?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You hear that? Any U.S. politicians, any leadership in the country, 33 Strategies, you're going to send me a copy?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It'll be translated? Yes. Will it be digital?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Can I disseminate it through our newsletter?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I'll put it in our newsletter when we receive it. You can download it for free. Have your staff read it if you don't have the time to. But sounds pretty clear to me that we need to pay a lot of attention to that book, that mastermind, 33 Strategies. Jane, thank you so much for coming. I really appreciate it. I hope the next time we run into each other, it's better news.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
But let me give you a quick introduction here. Okay. You're a writer, professor of religious studies at the University of North Carolina, Wilmington. You have offered a series of books, including American Cosmic UFOs, Religion and Technology, Heaven Can Wait, Purgatory in Catholic Devotional Culture and Encounters, Experiences with Non-Human Intelligences.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So it's a realm.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So you believe in purgatory?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah, me too, me too. Does the Bible, is purgatory anywhere in the Bible?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
What is that called?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So I got another question for you. If it's not in the Bible, should we be paying attention to it at all?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Because there's a lot of like, and I can't really think of anything like off the top of my head. This is all kind of new to me.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You know, like you said at the beginning, I can't even remember if this is on or off camera, but you were saying. Most Catholics don't even know their own religion.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
But that's a lot of us. But which is kind of why, you know, part of the reason why I stepped away and started looking for other sources. But, you know, I've been talking to a lot of people about God, Jesus, the Bible. And, you know, it seems to be there's a lot of little – Things that different religions believe in that have absolutely no reference in the Bible.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You've been a guest on several prominent podcasts such as the Joe Rogan Experience and the Lex Friedman Podcast, and you've served as a consulting producer on the Emmy Award-winning Netflix series Encounters. You were also the religion consultant on The Conjuring and was featured in the J.J. Abrams docuseries UFO.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You spent your career teaching and writing about American religious history and Catholic history, including studying at the Vatican Archive. Sounds fascinating. Your research connects religion, technology, and now the enigmatic realm of the UFO phenomena.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Wow. Wow. Yeah. What are some of the things that aren't in the Bible that we should be paying attention to? Are you talking about like maybe that, what's that? Is it the book of Enoch?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Now you find yourself working with scientists and military personnel on the topic, something you never thought you'd be doing when you began your career, and... You're a Christian believer and a mother, probably the most important things, right?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Welcome to the show.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay. I had to ask. asked a lot of people about Ezekiel.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
And it sounds like you have an explanation I'm looking for.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Can you go into that?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Please?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Thank you.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Something for the ride home.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
We'll give you some more.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Do you want a gun?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
A seraphim.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
We were just having a conversation right before we started recording, and I was going to start this interview in the year of 2012, but it sounds like you had an experience as an 11-year-old girl.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You know, some of this sounds like what some people would call a psychedelic download. Have you ever heard of that? Yes. What do you think about that?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So let's start right there.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Have you done psychedelics?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So you think these realms... I've done psychedelic works, psychedelic treat therapies, and it stemmed from mental injuries from service. But where I'm... I don't want to get into all the good, whatever. That's a whole other conversation. What I'm interested in talking to you about is the realm that you go to. Yeah, the realm is really real.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Do you believe it's a real realm or is it developed in your imagination?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Why do you think we should be careful?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Do you have specific examples?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah. When you're talking about other people that are reaching the same dimension or realm or whatever we want to call it, that are getting there without psychedelics.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
How are they—is this through meditation?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, I just, you know, I think we have a lot to learn in those realms.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah, I do too. And I've never actually had this conversation with anybody before, but... You know, I think a lot of people go back because there's so much positivity coming out of psychedelics. I mean, that's why I went back. But, you know, and... Man, I have so many thoughts going through my head. You know, the dimension or realm that it takes me to always scares the hell out of me.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
It's not necessarily a bad experience. I have a lot of... anticipation type anxiety when if i'm going to do it because i know i'm going there um majority of the experience been overwhelmingly positive i always learn a lot uh it's always a very uh an intuitive type experience and you know it's funny you mentioned you know truth and justice and things like that because you'll feel
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You might feel justice about certain events that have happened in your life that you didn't feel that you got justice from. You might get that coming out of those type of experiences. And then, you know, with the truth, I mean, I've had so many intuitive experiences about my family, my own life, my business, just lots of
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
It's almost like a download of information or a, hey, I need a new roadmap to my life. Let me strap in here real quick and figure this out. And there's just so many positive things coming out of it. But I almost feel like some of the things that you're talking about live in that realm. And so... should we be exploring that realm somehow, some way more effectively than the way we are?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
It's really weird. I crave it. I don't know if craving is the right word, but I don't know any other way to put it. I feel like psychedelics make you smarter. I really honestly believe that psychedelics make you smarter. smarter at accessing memories, smarter at navigating your life.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
It just clears all the shit up and gives you clear direction and where to go and new perspectives on past events and current events and relationships. But at the same time, I really... I have a lot of respect for the medicine itself. And so it's not, You're not going to see me at a party eating a bag of mushrooms.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
If I do it, calendar's blocked off. It's no kids. I take it very seriously. I don't mess around. I don't just do it on a whim. I put a lot of thought into why I'm doing it, what I'm going to do it, how I'm going to do it, preparation for afterwards. I'm not just going to come back to work the next day.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So if I'm going to do it, then I'm going to set it up to where I'm going to get the most out of the experience. But yeah, it's just interesting to talk to somebody like you about that. So I wanted to ask you about the, you've studied the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay, well, let's move into how did the interest in the UFO stuff even happen?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
How did they get wind of you?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
What was the turning point for you that made you think that this isn't metaphorical anymore?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Can you name one of the saints or maybe call?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
How do you know it was redacted?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So do you have the original transcripts as well?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Why would they redact it?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, I know it happens in government all the time.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
It's standard. So are you saying that the Catholic Church just took a firsthand account and said, no, this doesn't align with what we think, so we're just going to change it?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
And then left the original transcripts in?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, it's just interesting because then it's just—I mean, what else did the Catholics just change?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I'm sure it does.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah, I mean, it happens in all subjects. It's just weird that they're okay with it.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah, we changed.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Sorry about that little rabbit hole there.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah, yeah. All right, sorry. Sorry to interrupt.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Wakanda debris.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
What did the debris look like?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Metallic frog skin?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Do you have any pictures?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
How did you get access to this place?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Oh, okay. Okay.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So Tyler, just so Tyler is a code name. Yes. Obviously some type of government official, right?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Are you still tied in with him?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay. So what else was at this site?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
That's it? Anything else?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Interesting. Let's take a quick break.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
All right, Diana, we're back from the break. We just kind of went over your work with Tyler and Gary Nolan at the crash site. And I just, how was that kind of briefed to you? I mean-
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
It just sounds like, hey, we're going to take you to this site where a UFO crashed. Yeah, right.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So you've been— I read that you went to the Vatican with a, was it a NASA scientist?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
What happened?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
What prompted the trip? Let me start there.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Wow, so you literally started at age 11.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Man, that's awesome. I mean, it's pretty profound for an 11-year-old to read the Bible.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Why – I've heard that the Vatican has, what, the largest observatory or the biggest telescope.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I don't know where you're at. We're talking about Ezekiel, angels. First I thought maybe we're going with we, I mean you. UFOs are spiritual entities. Then you're at a crash site and you pick up a chunk of metal and we're at the Vatican. So what are you thinking? What is this? What is all of this?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Is it two separate things? Is there a spiritual entity and a nuts and bolts thing? Or where are you at?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You have to think about this all the time.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah. Wow. Wow. Well, I know that—so as I mentioned, I grew up Catholic. Yep. And still go back every now and then. I've got a lot of questions. But— You started studying purgatory in 2012. And so could you describe purgatory for the audience, for the people that don't know?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So you're saying that your intentions for research might trigger a specific outcome?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So how do you differentiate the – I asked you if you believe there's a spiritual component and a kind of nuts and bolts type component. How do you differentiate the two? I mean, are they two – do they have any relation to each other?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I don't believe that anymore.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Why don't I? Through some of my own experiences and interviews and I just... It's impossible for me to articulate this, but I'll try. I... i think that you can you can believe or manifest or whatever you want to call it uh realities into existence i honestly believe i think i've done it i think other people that i know have done this i think that we know very little about consciousness and and
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I think that we may have the abilities to create our own realities, but we don't have the knowledge on how to do that. I think we get little snippets on how that could be done. But as far as like a full scope, I don't think anybody has a... Does that make any sense at all?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
With Neuralink?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Diana Posulka, welcome to the show.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, so... You're a skeptic. You... Did you think that... UAP, sorry, I'm off on my timeline. Did you think that UAP activity when you went to the crash site was complete bullshit? Or did you think it was some type of a spiritual entity if you dove in and like had you looked into the Vatican stuff before you went to site?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay, okay. Did you believe it at that time?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So when you went to the crash site and you saw an actual chunk of metal that you believe came off of some type of a...
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So it didn't necessarily turn you into, it did not turn you into a balloon?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Did it, I mean, it had to have brought up some type of, it had to have brought up thoughts.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
If this is real, is it two separate, is it two completely separate things? Because then I don't think a chunk of metal is going to fall off of an angel.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
or a spiritual entity?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, what do you think about guys like Ryan Graves or I forgot, is it Jon Favre?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, what do you think about accounts, firsthand accounts like these guys?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Have you talked to any of the higher ups or leadership or clergy or whatever they call it at the Vatican?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
What do they say about this type of thing?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I really want to know what you think. Do you think they come from space?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Hey, it's an honor to have you here. I've been trying to get you here for quite a while now and had a, man, I just got, I don't even remember the first person that introduced me to kind of what you're doing, but it's been, I've been getting hit from all angles.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Interesting. Interesting. You talk a lot about, thank you for sharing that, by the way.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
That's what I think. Not that I've done even a smidgen of the research that you have, but that's, I mean, it seems to be the only thing that could not leave a trace. And when I brought up, you know, kind of what I think about, you know, other realms and manifesting or praying into or whatever you want to say.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Uh, I, I think that the human mind, I think we've been indoctrinated to think that we have, uh, a lot of limitations that are not really there. And, um, and, uh, I don't know how we're going to break that. But you talk a lot about technologies. Yes. What kind of technologies are you speaking about?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Let's go with both.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
How would that change us? I guess that would be the ultimate truth.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, if you can see and read somebody's thoughts, then you know they're a true character.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Father Dan Rehill.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
What are you talking about with AI? What else?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
About social media. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
And the technology behind it. Yeah. What do you think people can do?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You know, when— is a sounds like devout catholic woman who's very well versed and uh all of this what what do you think about spiritual warfare is that what all this is all the stuff we're seeing
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I guess what I'm asking is how is this happening? Are people under some type of a demonic influence and that's how this is happening, you know, with kids?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So they thought that if they could handle being in a cave for 24 hours, is there anything substantial about this particular cave?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah. I kind of feel like most people don't realize they are under that influence.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I'm just trying to explore all of this stuff. But I think it's... I don't know. I'm at the beginning of this and kind of cracking this open in my own way. But, I mean, it's always been good versus evil, right? But it's just... The lines are becoming very blurred. And, you know, the thing is now that just... Nothing really makes sense to me that's going on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Some of the stuff that's going on with kids and I don't know where it is coming from. Do you know what I mean?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Some of these agendas just don't make sense. I don't know how many, I don't understand how many people, how so many people can get behind some of these just absurd agendas that are only even possible through technologies. And like sex changed. It's such a foreign, like how did that happen? And stuff like that, within kids. And that's kind of where I'm at.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
When you talk about some of this being structural, and it sounds like over generations and generations.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You think that there may be families or—I mean, who holds the key?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Wow. Does he talk about how... I mean, so to pass on, to be... So what, are they born into the puppet master?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
How does this get passed on from generation to generation over thousands of years without ever being... Okay, so this answer was provided to me, actually.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Interesting. And so what? Does that person manipulate the king into— Some type of agenda?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay. Interesting. Very interesting. I know you've worked a lot with NASA or people inside NASA.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah, I didn't mean to say you've worked for NASA.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah. What are some of the – there's a lot of conspiracies around NASA. Does any of that ring true to you? What's your experience been?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
L. Ron Hubbard.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Wow.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Wow, that's interesting.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Like the president of the United States?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, can you be a little more specific?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah, definitely, definitely. And I'm I've been really looking forward to this interview. You know, I grew up Catholic. I'm into UFOs. I can't wait to dive in here. So I've been looking forward to this for a long time. So I just want to say thank you for making the time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Hmm. Do you have any ideas of where this stemmed from?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Interesting. Yeah. Why would they carry on these traditions?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I don't know. I mean... Could have played devil's advocate here a little bit, but I was a SEAL. I was the agency. We had developed our own traditions. For example, in one of my platoons, we had a patch and it had a Spartan helmet on it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
and we we underneath the spartan helmet we put a we put a saying that the greeks used to the spartans used to say that said come home with your shield or on it put that in greek underneath and so you know somebody could probably look at that and go why did the why do these americans have greek writing under a spartan helmet because we because spartans were all badass warriors that
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
we aspire to be and and so we kind of you know adopted some of their traditions sayings whatever you whatever you want to call it it's it's it's really uh more of a uh morality type like a morale type thing uh to keep us going than than really anything else
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I'm with you. I just, you know, I try to, I also, you know.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, Indians, you know, I mean, a lot of, like, there are, there's a team over at field team six, you know, and, and it's, It's probably not an Indian. I don't know, but it's, you know, they all have feathers, you know, and they, you know, it's a tradition at that unit now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Or, you know, a lot of people in that space gravitate towards, you know, Vikings and have Viking sayings and there are Latin sayings too. So it, I don't know, you know, could be, Probably not if you're positioning a president in a certain manner, but, you know, it could be something harmless.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Be that too.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Well, Diana, is there anything you want to talk about today that we haven't discussed yet?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Would you come back?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Do you want a gun?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
We can do that. Can you give me three people that you think would be, that you would like to see on this show?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Well, I know somebody that could probably make that connection.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Sitting right across from me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I would love to get Elon Musk on the show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
All right, perfect. Well, Diana, I just, once again, I want to say what a fascinating conversation. I love talking to you and I hope to see you again. I can't wait to see what's next. What is next for you? Before we do end this, I'm sorry.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Perfect. When does the book come out?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Oh, okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay, so next year.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Perfect. Well- Maybe we'll have you back on then if you're into it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
My pleasure. One last question.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Are we living in a cave?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
All right. Perfect. It's a realm, isn't it? All right. Well, Diana, thank you very much.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I did enjoy it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Before we go into the UFO stuff, I'm actually very interested in the purgatory stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So what do you think?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So the purgatory originated as a cave?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
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#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
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#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
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#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
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Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, yeah. It's... pretty heavy there's some heavy stuff in this room uh that's very historic but but um yeah I remember you know when we we got the after actions report when we got into country and uh they showed us uh it was I think it was uh it was some kind of a recruiting video that um I kind of put up yeah I saw it and uh you could I remember seeing, I was new, you know, fairly new.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And I remember seeing Danny Dietz upside down on the mountaintop and his cami blouse was pulled up. And a lot of the guys in my platoon were in a team with Danny. And they were like, holy shit, like he just got that tattoo. And I was with him when he got it on his rib cage. And it was just like...
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
that's when it became very real for me i can't imagine uh how personal and how much emotion you guys must have felt seeing that those videos i saw that those videos rage i mean yeah i would watch them every time we went out on an op that was my that was my my warm-up yeah man you know i would this is why the we're doing this because of this and um
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
But, and then, you know, I can't wait to get into some of the opiate stuff too with you. That's something we can relate on. I lost my best friend to opiates and who was struggling, you know, you were just talking about. You know, the transition from military, four military guys getting back into civilian and everybody goes down the spiral. And he didn't make it out. It was because of opiates.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I mean... Actually, it was because of that operation. So that was my best friend's team. He was part of the recovery operation? He was part of the recovery operation. He was... I'll tell you this. This was... I've never talked about this, but... He was, that was his sister platoon. He was in Iraq. They were doing, having a great deployment, which means they were going after a lot of bad guys.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
He had, his name's Gabe. I don't know if I should be doing this, but fuck it. I'm going to do it. And, uh, cause this, he had one of the worst runs I've ever heard. And, uh, He was engaged and had a mess up at a strip club and got a stripper pregnant, broke off the engagement, was going to do the right thing. He was going to do the right thing in his mind, which was to
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
marry her marry the stripper have the baby and uh and he deployed to iraq well uh they were getting after it and she went into labor there were some complications so he left iraq to come home and to be with her while the while the baby was born gets home goes to the hospital the baby's dead the mom is dead he doesn't tell anybody
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
He goes back to SEAL Team 10 and says, hey, I want to go back with the guys over in Iraq. They say, oh, you didn't hear the guys are coming home early. He had screened to go to development group, and they said, hey, you need to reenlist. So how about you jump in with your sister platoon who's in Afghanistan right now? He's like, well, I don't have any of my gear. It's all in Iraq still.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And they said, don't worry. You don't need gear. You're not going on operations. You're just going to go over there, reenlist, get it done, jump back on the bird, come home. So he wears his dress camis, gets on the bird. They land in Germany for a layover, find out that Marcus is on the run. Then he lands in Bagram. So they know that three guys have died and that Marcus is on the run.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They land in Bagram and he finds out that the helo went down, which was all the rest of his friends. wants to go on the recovery op with Dev, they wouldn't let him on at first. And he was like, basically, he's like, I don't, they're like, you don't have any kid. You can't go. He's like, I don't give a fuck. I'll scrounge up some shit. So in his dress cam, he's,
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
goes and piecemeals some shit together from the techs. Gets like a helmet that doesn't fit with a monocle. He's a night vision, like a shitty rifle, you know, without any optics on it. And he's in like an old flat jacket that, you know, I mean, you knew the gear we were using back then because you made the movie, but it was like the old shit that didn't even have any magazines on it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Found a couple of magazine pouches, put it on. goes on the fucking op. The dev guys are all like, who the fuck is this? Why is the tech coming on this? And goes on the op. But I mean, that's, goes on the op to recover the bodies. They get in a firefight out there. And he also had a role in Benghazi. He also had a role in the coast bombing at the agency, but never fucking told anybody.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And he told me when he was in Bud's, he was in Bud's with, I believe, I know James was one, I think Axelson was the other. And this was, he was in buds when 9-11 happened and through Hell Week. And he told me he was sitting on the grinder or standing on the grinder. So I was on one side, Axelson's on the other. And this is like. 30 minutes after the towers go down.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah. And so they give a speech, and they're basically saying, hey, Blake, it's been peacetime for a long time, and your guys' generation is going to war. And look to your right, and look to your left. There's a good chance that one of these guys are going to be dead, you know, in the near future. James, Matt Axelson, and when he fucking landed,
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
When he landed in Bagram, it was that Master Chief that gave that speech that greeted him coming off the fucking bird. Wow. And... Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And then he later died of... of addiction with opiates. And so I've never told anybody. I appreciate. Yeah, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They don't care about us when we're done.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They try to hide it. They try to hide it. They don't like talking about it because it fucks up recruiting numbers.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
The upper echelon of the SEAL teams fucking hate this show because – Because we dive into it. Yeah, I would imagine. We expose it. I don't care if it hurts the recruiting numbers. I believe they have a responsibility.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I am, thank you. A lot. That means a hell of a lot coming from you. So I really appreciate it. um well let's i got all kinds of stuff that we're gonna talk about when it comes to that but uh everybody starts off with an introduction here so Peter Berg, you're born in the heart of New York City in the 1960s.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
That's a big reason why opiates become such a problem in the community. And they're right there. And so then, yeah. It numbs that out. Turn it off. Numbs it out. And then... it's just, it's the only thing that seems to turn the switch off, you know, for a lot of people. And the immediate easy fix, you know, just it dumbs you out to where you don't give a fuck anymore.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And then, you know, down the spiral we go.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
When you made that, I mean, that exposed a lot of shit to the public that people weren't really thinking about. I mean, when you make something like that, do you have any fear? A little bit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
You moved to Los Angeles in your early 20s and have realized your dreams of becoming a celebrated film actor, writer, director, and producer earning accolades across multiple platforms. Your approach to filmmaking is deeply personal, often focusing on real stories that highlight human endurance, teamwork, and the fight against adversity.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Your films are known for their gritty realism, emotional depth, and action that feels both authentic and exhilarating. Among your many creative endeavors, Friday Night Lights, Lone Survivor, and Deepwater Horizon stand out as highlights in your career. More recently, you tackled the opioid epidemic. That's, like, super close to me. And I'm sure you know why, which we'll get into.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
What were some of the things, what was the initial thing that kind of got you paranoid about the Sackler family?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
The opioid epidemic head-on... with your epic show, Painkiller, just one week after its release, Painkiller ranked number one in the top 10 English language series genre and currently has over 54 million hours viewed. And on January 9th, you're about to introduce your latest project, American Primeval Into the World on Netflix. I look forward to discussing that today.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
But did you struggle with addiction at all?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, it is. I had a hell of a run in Columbia with cocaine. Yeah. I appreciate the bottle, but I've been sober for three years. Good for you, man. And... Well, I've been on booze for three years, but yeah, really. I was really riding the line there. Opiates, coke, benzos, booze, sleeping pill, all of it combined together. And then I did a psychedelics treatment.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Thank you for giving us a sneak peek that, like, it looks so awesome and uh so realistic and and uh like the sounds in it are it's amazing it's amazing i think you'll like it i can't wait i can't wait for that to come out and uh clear eyes full hearts can't lose can't lose let's dig in so so also everybody gets a gift Just a little something for the flight home. Open it now, right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I had a little journey. Went down to Mexico to do... There's some drugs that got me off the drugs.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Forgive me. So I had really cleaned it up. So I moved down to...
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Well, that's kind of why I went. You found what you were looking for. I definitely found it and overdosed a couple times, almost died. I remember calling my mom on Mother's Day. You know, I've always heard, you don't have to worry about how much coke you've had until things start slowing down. And they said, when you're on speed and things start slowing down, that's when you're right in the line.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And that happened to me a couple times down there where it was like, It was like that fucking scene in old school where like, you know, the voice is like, I started hearing that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
About five years. And a lot. I mean, I just, it's just, I mean, it's, you know, at that time, like really good coke in Miami was like 150 bucks a gram. Yeah. And down there I was getting it for five bucks a gram. And it was so much stronger, right? Yeah. I mean, it's fresh from the, it's just right, I mean, it's Columbia.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I mean, it was all the time. It was all the time. And I would go – you know, I don't know. I never really kept track, but, I mean, I never stopped. Like, I would go hard in the paint for a week. Oh, my goodness. And then I would go all the way up until the point where, like – I would get, like, this really bad heartburn, and I would just drown Tums and Pepto and anything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Like, I just wanted to keep... How did you get yourself out of that? Well, I actually got run out by the federal police. And I... So I, like, really... I always... take care of everybody around me. And I do it with my team now. I've just always done it. I've always been. And so when I went down there, I had a kind of a, I had a penthouse in a neighborhood called El Poblado.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And so anybody that was around me, I would take care of. So like number one guy, doorman, who has access into the building that I'm in. the door guy. And so all the door guys, like, if I want to go get booze, they got booze. If I want to go get Coke, they got Coke. When I would leave Columbia to come back to the States, I would give them all my clothes, my shoes, my sunglasses, everything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
computer. I'd done anything. If I went to go get a phone, I'd got them a phone. So I really took care of those guys because I knew that they controlled access into the building and up to my apartment. And so they had kind of tipped me off. And one of them in particular tipped me off and had told me that they had set up a
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They had set up an observation point in a building across from mine and that they may have bugged the recessed lighting in the hallway outside of where I was at. But this was real or was this like coke paranoia? No, this is real. Okay. Yeah, and so when I got one to that, I – I hightailed it out of there and never went back. Cleaned it up. Cleaned up the coke. Tried to clean it up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Then I started going to Costa Rica, but Costa Rica was like fucking Disneyland compared to what I was doing. Pura Vida. You weren't about to Pura Vida. It was a joke. It was just a bunch of gringos down there wanting to have sex with Latin Costa Rican girls. I was just like, this is fucking stupid. JV. I need... I need to be, because the real issue was adrenaline addiction from all my time in.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah. Right? People would come down to visit me and to think it would be a good time, which I thought, you know, I'm not condoning this. It was a fucking, it was horrible. I speak against it all the time now, but they couldn't,
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
you know they'd last maybe two days and they'd be they'd come down to visit me for a month and then I'd get a note you know on my table that's like dude I'm out of here it's like this is crazy and um and uh because it it wasn't uh I mean it's just different it's just crazy down there I mean I used to go to this um club it was called Fahrenheit and in the club
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They had like these tables where they would line, like put lines and mounds, like little mounds and key bumps and shit on the table of Coke and then lacquer over the top.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, go ahead. Open it up. Oh, the gummy bears. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I'm sure they're looking. But... Don't do it. Yeah, but don't do it. It doesn't lead anywhere good.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I mean, it was just... I mean, that was just one hangout. But what I really liked doing was... I mean, what I really liked was the adrenaline, you know, and it just... You know, the adrenaline from the teams and then my time at the agency, like it just, I mean, it was just always like shit was happening. And then when I left, I couldn't fucking feed that anymore.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And I had nowhere to get it, you know? And so that's, I was like, I'm going to go down here. I'm like...
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
That Mother's Day thing, like, really got to me because I was like, man, I'm going to— I'm going to fucking OD down here. And my body will just decompose because nobody really gives a shit about me down here. Nobody knows I'm here other than my parents. And they'll just eventually get a call like, hey, your son's body is fucking decomposing in this penthouse. He OD'd on coke.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And like the career that I've had before that, it was just like, oh, there's my son, the former SEAL, former CIA contractor who's fucking died of a cocaine overdose. I was ashamed. And so I went home and I, I mean, I still struggled with the benzos and cause down there I would, I would just, you know, you can get whatever you want. So if I was getting, you know, eventually if I was getting too
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
No, you'll have to go back home to California to get those. Okay. I can get them. I love gummy bears. Yeah, those are good. A little something for the flight home.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
going too hard down the coke train I would just pop a Valium and then yeah but whatever but um but uh then I had a suicide attempt and uh that was really like the breaking point for me when I got when I got back home just nothing was I couldn't get anything going and and uh and uh pulled the car into the garage and reclined the seat back and uh I woke up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I should have never woken up, but anyways.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Me too. But so, yeah, so then, you know, then I, but then I found, you know, psychedelics through this show and went down there and haven't had, Kicked everything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Peter, it was like a light switch, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I did Ibogaine and 5-MeO-DNT.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I smoked a toad.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
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#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
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#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
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#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Well, one day I did it 13 times.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Oh, man, this is awesome. Yeah. Franklin Distillery.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
It was an all-day event. I started at 9 a.m.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, amazing, amazing. And, like, I just, the first time was the scariest and probably the one that I got the most out of. I mean, like I said, you know, between that and the Ibogaine, I haven't, this February it'll be three years since I've had a drop.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Cleaned me out. Still clean.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Totally different.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Well, I mean... I mean... The Ibogaine's like a 12-hour experience.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, I think so. What was the Ibogaine like? Man, it was... It was about 12 hours long. I couldn't walk afterwards. In a nutshell, it's like a life review. It's like a life review of looking at your life through... from an outside perspective, like a non-biased, for me, like a non-emotional perspective.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And so a lot of the things that kind of happened, I guess you just, you process them in a different way.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And it wasn't all traumatic shit, you know, it was, like, to be honest, it was like this, it was like the, It was like these TV screens, like thousands of them, kind of like going off into a distance and just disappearing. And every screen was a different portion, like segment of my life. And I could see them through my peripherals and like see them, you know, kind of moving through.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And I could think like,
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
oh, yeah, that's, you know, when me and my dad did this thing, and that is in Iraq, and that's when I was a teenager wrestling, and this is, there was no, like, chronological order, there was no nothing, and if I tried to pay too much attention into one screen, then they would all disappear, and so it wasn't even like I was reliving experiences, but that's kind of, you know, how it went for me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I didn't, I didn't, like, It wasn't a scary experience other than at the very first I saw my head split open and another one mushroomed out. That's a little scary. Yeah, but it wasn't like you hear some of the horror stories about people reliving things or meeting demons.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, I didn't meet any demons. It was just a life review kind of. and um and then when i came out of it it's like i had this uh new sixth sense that said hey all this you're doing it's poison like knock this off quit drinking quit you know i quit caffeine for a long time i quit smoking marijuana for a long time i I was still taking Adderall to concentrate and hadn't had any of that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And like the fruit that came from that experience just, I mean, it totally like revolutionized this show and my business. I was kind of scared to leave the military genre, not leave it, but explore new territories and like that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Man, I can't even believe you're sitting here. I've watched so many of your movies and series, and to have you sitting here is pretty surreal.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Man, thank you. I'm going to have you sign this. This is going to be a relic in the studio. I'd be honored. Thank you. This is very cool. Yeah, that's rare. That's a collector's piece. Perfect. Cool, man. I'll get it. Yeah, we'll have you sign it after the... Okay. After the... after the interview here. And then, One last thing. I got a Patreon account. They're my top subscribers, top supporters.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
medicines yeah i mean they've done studies on it now it's it's it's it's um i mean it's really changing a lot of lives you know and it is the cure for for opiate addiction or alcoholism and so if you're out there riding the line you know like we were just talking about and uh you're looking for a way out i'd highly recommend it yeah man same here and and i do hope that whatever happens
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They're the reason I get to be here and you get to be here. They've been with us since the beginning. And so one of the things I do is I offer them the opportunity to ask every guest a question. And you had a ton. So this is from Tori Miller. With so many great movies that you've directed and several based on true events, which movie was the most stressful to film and made you feel that you got...
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
that you got it right when it finally released?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I'm hesitant to do it every time. Have you done it once? No, I've done it, I think, four times. Right. And four different sessions.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
You don't know where you're going. No. So are you saying you're not an atheist now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I'm not here to judge.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Nah, we talk about this all the time on this show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
This is a medicine. So, like, all the coke and all that shit, like, I think we kind of covered it. Like, it's not good. I mean, I'm... Dark, dark, dark suicidal energies.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They say there's more planets than grains of sand in the world.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
So that's kind of where I am. That's, I mean... it it uh it sent me down a path because i was first time i did it it was i didn't really believe in anything either i grew up catholic and uh and that you know went out the window pretty much as soon as i joined the seal teams with that culture and what we were doing and But did you have your eyes closed or a blindfold on? Yeah, I did.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They were closed. I did it. I wanted to see.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, I came back after I died. What did your death feel like? My death felt like, man, like it was the most anxiety, most... fear i've ever felt in my life and uh and like i it felt like all the negative like toxicity like that i've experienced you know rage like it felt like it was just rushing through my veins out of my fingers and my toes and um and it felt like uh it i i had like this
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
It wasn't really a visualization. It felt more like an intuition, but it felt like there was this black tar dripping off of my heart. Wow. Wow.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
It was. And I just, like you, I had all these thoughts and shit about... Because that's your ego trying to hold on to logic. And the last thing that I was grasping onto was my wife and my son. And I was just like, I knew I was 100% certain, like, you're fucking dying, Sean. Like, there's no coming back. You're done. And I was just fighting like hell because I just...
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I didn't want to leave my wife and my six month old son in this fucked up place. And, uh, so that was like the last thing that I was holding onto. And then when I, when I let that go, that's when the crossover happened. And, uh, when the crossover happened, I like sat back up and, uh, we're on the beach or close to the beach. We're up on a, like a Mount, like a hill.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And you could see, like, see out, you know, into the Pacific. There were some islands out there, and I remember everything looked exactly the same. It was just more vibrant. But like every time I do psychedelics, I'm like, it's very, it's a lot of intuition going on. And, you know, I was really reluctant to do this because I was like, this shit's for the hippies. I'm not a hippie.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And I've heard hippies talk about energy and all this stuff. And, but what I opened my eyes, I saw, I just, you could intuitively feel and see this,
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
flow of energy from the ocean into the beach up the trees like into the grass through me and it was i could just you could see it in intuitively and you just knew that it was there and and and you know if i felt like if there would have been some negative energy out there it would have been like a spotlight in the darkness. Like you just would have been able to identify it immediately.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Uh, cause everything was just so positive. And, uh, and then I felt the presence of, uh, Gabe, you know, who, who talked about, and, um, and I, I felt that, uh, I just, it was the feeling that everything that all the trauma, everything that had happened, uh, throughout my life was supposed to happen. And that it was okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And that none of it even fucking mattered because this is such a minuscule sliver in time that we're experiencing right now. And so it made me believe again in a higher power. Yeah. And then, honestly, it sent me on a journey. And, I mean, now I'm a Christian, and I've had another experience after that that turned me into a Christian that, like, fucking slapped me in the face.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Like, hey, pay attention. And, yeah. It's amazing. I mean, the stuff that that, it's, and you also realize how minuscule like you are. We are. And you're okay with it, you know, which is the ego death, right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, you've made some just amazing, amazing stuff. But yeah, I would say... I mean, that had to be a lot of pressure, you know, considering the events that happened that the movie's about. And then in just our conversation before we actually officially started the interview about Showing the families. I mean, that's tough.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
What do you think? I think it depends on life experiences. So, because it is so healing. So, you know, I think if you have a kid who is, I'm not, like, I can't back this up either.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
But, you know, I mean, there's kids that have been through lots and lots of sexual trauma, rape.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And I was just had a guy in here and I'm not going to mention his name because this kind of conversation was offline, but, um, his son, you know, was in an, in an accident and, and, uh, somebody was killed. And, um, And his son did this. And it sounds like it healed him, you know, because he carried a lot of fucking guilt. How old was his son? 17 or 18, I think.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And, you know, kind of got him through. You know, because you do realize, I mean, for me, just, you just, you, man, I'll tell you, like, it changes your perspective so much that, you know, it's like, oh, fuck, like, so-and-so died. You know what I mean? That sucks. That a short life could have had, you know, had a lot more life to live, died in his 20s, died at 25, a lot of seals, whatever.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Death sucks, right? That's how humanity perceives it. It's fucking horrible. Like, you only get to live once. After doing the 5-MeO DMT, this shit is what sucks. They're in a better fucking spot. It's almost like you get a window or a veils lifted and you see what it's actually all about. Even though you can't... Like you said, there's no words in the English language to...
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
to describe it, but it's a hell of a lot better than here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I think the world would be a better place. I wish the fucking politicians would use it. But have you ever heard anything bad coming from it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, I just heard this last week. Actually, it was the guys that got me into this. They didn't talk me into it. They shared their experience on how it helped them, and I was like, I got to do this. But they came up. We went to an event together. We were all talking about psychedelics, and
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
i guess there's somebody that i haven't looked into this yet but apparently it's there's there's something out there on it this guy did it it seems to have experienced a 10-year time period and within 30 minutes i began or meo meo okay and had I don't know, like I said, I didn't get any, I didn't have like a storyline or anything when I did it, which doesn't sound like you did either.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
But he had built a relationship, had a kid, like all this shit happened in his mind in 30 minutes that was 10 years worth of time. And then when he came out, of the experience. Only 30 minutes had passed, and he still misses whoever he met that was in that experience because he had built a 10-year relationship with those people. And so all he wants to do... Isn't that fucking wild? It's crazy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I know, I've never heard that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I've never heard of that, man. Apparently he still has feelings, but I'll tell you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, yep. Wow. Yep. Maybe tapped into another life. Who the hell knows? Maybe. You know? It also, another thing that, like, it did is it set me down. This stuff just set me down a rabbit hole. Have you ever read The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Basically, I'm going to butcher it, but, I mean... Lots of people read this. Some people read it every, I think Tom Brady reads it every year. But it talks a lot about like, it's four agreements that you make with yourself. And I can't even, I haven't read it in years. So I don't know them all off the top of my head.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
But it kind of talks about like, I don't want to make this book sound like something it's not. But one thing that it does do is it talks about how we've all been indoctrinated. But it doesn't do it in like a conspiracy-ish fucking way. It's just the way it is. And a lot of people read this after psychedelics. And when you read it, you're like, oh, yeah. Like, okay. Like, yeah. This is true.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And in between that and... in kind of in what I experienced through psychedelics and how healing it is and how it's fucking illegal here. Why? I don't know. It's helping so many people with addiction and trauma.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah. And it sent me down this rabbit hole to think that everything we know and have been told is a fucking lie. And I do believe that. I do want to ask you about something. Did we go to the moon? Pardon me? Did we go to the moon?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Have you looked into that? Which stuff? Did he staged it? He filmed it? Yeah, that's Capricorn One.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Me too. I don't know, though. There's some pretty compelling evidence.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
It's a very complicated situation.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Five days?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Oh, man, so this is fresh.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, I've been hesitant to cover the subject because it's so fucking complicated.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
The world is a fucked up place. Yeah, but there's some good stories too. Let's move into what you're doing now, American Primeval. Yeah. How did that come across for you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
It looks like it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I started as... It's...
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Man, thank you. Thank you. I am curious. I have to know this. How the hell did—like, you've got to be a super busy guy, and with who you appear to be surrounded by, I mean, how did this pop up on your radar?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
That is interesting. Where'd you film it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
A good challenge, a really good challenge. Man, the preview is awesome, and it looks super realistic, and I'm sure it's going to crush it on Netflix. It's on Netflix, correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, January 9th. Well, Peter, we're wrapping up the interview. You're a good dude, man. So are you. Appreciate it. Thank you for opening up about everything. Same to you. Thanks for sharing the story of your buddy. Wow. He lives on. He was an amazing dude. But, man, we covered a lot of ground there. And you thought you didn't have it in you. Here we are. I wasn't sure.
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#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
But hey, it was a pleasure. Pleasure to see you again. And best of luck with the film. Appreciate it.
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#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
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#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
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Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Thank you. Well, we have a lot to talk about today.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So they immigrated to England?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Wow. Wow. And then how'd you get to the States?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
It's interesting, though. I'm just curious because you see a lot of people that come from communist countries... Or have roots in communist countries, China, Cuba, Venezuela. I mean, you go to South Florida and Cubans are terrified that the U.S. is going to wind up like Cuba. And a lot of the... A lot of the people of Chinese descent that I talk to, too, are terrified that the U.S.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
is starting to turn into communism in some way, shape, or form. And so I'm just curious, how did you... What was the path to becoming a Democrat? Are your parents Democrats?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
They're not political.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Do you think the parents should be held responsible?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So you kind of got groomed into it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah. Okay. And so you interned at 13?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
You did?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
How so?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Okay. Okay. Yeah. So how did you—so you interned at 13.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So you had interest in politics at age 13?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
It would be kind of boring.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
A lot of people like boring.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So then you move on, age 24. You run for Congress.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
You were an investment banker?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And then you ran for Congress.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And then how did you get involved in the White House?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah. All right. Well, we got a lot of stuff to talk about.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
You sure?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Nice. And so how did you get involved in the White House? How did you get connected there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
That's good. That's good. Because I'm not going to give them up. But we have a lot of stuff to talk about. The most important subject, the one that I want to talk about the most is, you know, Biden's cognitive decline.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So were you the primary fundraiser for the Biden-Harris campaign?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
How much money did you raise?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
No, definitely not. But so I want to, I want to get into kind of the meat of why you're here, Biden's cognitive decline. And so you're basically coming out and saying that the coverup of Joe Biden's cognitive decline, basically it's, it's not, it's not a conspiracy. He was declining, correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
No, but, you know, I remember—
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Got some big news, some names I heard you're going to drop.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
in 2020 and in parts of 2019 you know i don't really i don't watch any legacy media anymore but at the time i did because you know covet was rampant obviously it was the start of it so everybody's glued you know what's going on what's happening and at the same time that you know the debates were getting ready to fire up and i remember fox kept saying over and over again that
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
This guy, you know, he's not with it. Nobody's at the wheel. Nobody's driving this train. This is basically just describing what now we all know is true. But I didn't buy into it. I was like, ah, this has to be, this has to be,
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
way over embellished there's no way somebody would be running for president and then i remember watching the first debate with my wife and i saw him come up and i saw him struggling to put a sentence together and i was like holy this is real and and so
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
you know i didn't understand how anybody bought off on it from the first debate i can't even remember exactly what he said we're going to roll some of the clips uh during the interview of of of how that went but i mean i i thought it was very apparent right at the very get-go debate one that he he wasn't with it and so when did you notice
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I can't wait to get into that. But I just have one thing I have to know.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Whose cocaine was in the White House?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
You didn't see slow decision-making or inability to put, I mean, you chalked that up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So, I mean, and then, you know, I'm going to, you were a big fundraiser for the campaign too. So I wanted to, let's dive into a little bit of the campaign. You know, back then, you know, there were all these, Trump had thousands of people showing up. Biden wasn't really, he didn't have anybody showing up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And I was... What was it that you saw? What did you see that was getting ridiculous?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
We're here to drop names, Lindy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
But... And none of the other candidates would have been... The thing about that, and I know... Was it Tulsi?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I mean, was it one event that you witnessed that you realized? And I think you said 2022 is when you started to see.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I mean, what was it, though? I mean, we saw him falling down the steps of Air Force One.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
We saw him fall off his bike. We saw him go past Secret Service or the Marines or whatever or just like, oh, I forgot the White House doors over here and just kept walking.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Oh, okay. I think if it was Hunter's, it probably would have been an empty bag.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
We'll get to that. We'll get to that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
We will get to that. But, I mean, did you have a lot of personal interaction with him while he was in?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Mm-hmm. So what were these interactions like? Walk me through one.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
What are some more...
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Perfect. All right. Well, we'll start it off with a... Introduction here. Lindy Lee, recognized as a prominent political strategist. You've raised millions of dollars for the DNC and for both the Biden and Harris campaigns. You've become an outspoken critic of the DNC and its wasteful spending and misguided policies.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah, Hunter definitely likes to party.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Were you part of the prep team?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And they would run him through these questions, I'm sure, time and time again before he actually gives a speech or has an event, correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Wow. So—
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Jeez. So there was, like, nobody at the wheel running this country.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
In a minute. In a minute. But what I want to ask is, how did they... Did they intimidate you not to leak?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
We'll put them up on screen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah, you can airdrop it to us, and we'll put it up on screen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Can I read it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
No. Are you still free to chat? Maybe text. Long day. Okay. This may be the most important day of my life. I still haven't fully figured out how to navigate telling the truth about Biden. learning in parentheses, earning Fox's favor and covering for the Biden in parentheses, earning the White House's. The White House called me today to babysit me. I got the message.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
They said that I'm the biggest defender of the presidents. Yikes. What was the message? To hold the line, stay loyal. And in exchange, can I go down?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I didn't even tell them, but Politico and Fox announced my appearance. Fox has been promoting it. They even cut an ad. I also have other issues.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Tell us.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So what do you think they would have done? I mean, it's pretty vague.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think there was a lot of the past four years, a lot of disgusting stuff that happened over in the Capitol and in the White House. I mean, there was that... Who was that guy?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So pretty much all of them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Why? Why? Why is the party more important than the country?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
2020, 2024.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
2024. How long did you want to come out before that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Jeez. So they have no courage whatsoever.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
What did you start leaking to the press?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Did you give specific examples?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
How did the press receive the information? I mean— It wasn't just D.C. the problem.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
They were.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Man, I mean, it took a long time for him to admit that. I mean, we just heard time and time again. I mean, didn't his doctor say, oh, he's the best fit president ever? And, I mean, who were his doctors?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
That was crazy, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
That was crazy. I was actually in D.C. when that happened. Not at that party, though.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I mean, as far as cognitive decline goes, I mean, it's not just a Democrat issue. It's also a Republican issue. I mean, look at McConnell. Spaces out time after time again, doesn't know where he's at. Having strokes on camera. Feinstein died in office. I mean, am I missing? There's probably more. Who am I missing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
But so, I mean, it was the president, and I think they definitely— Stakes are so much higher with the president.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Jeez. Jeez. So you didn't get any pushback from the left-leaning media? You were feeding them and they were chasing after you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And what year did that start? That was also in 2024?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
What outlets gave you the most...
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Politico?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Why are you blackballed? They were chasing after you, and now they've blackballed you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So does the Democrat Party pay these outlets? How are they controlled?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And then before we get started, when we first met, what happened on Joe's podcast? He came out and said something about the Harris interview.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Man. I'm going to ask you again, or I didn't ask you, but what health issues are you having from all the stress and all the blowback coming back from the Democratic Party?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Well, I'm sorry to hear that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Well, let's take a quick break, and then when we come back, I want to talk about who is actually running the White House.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I know everybody out there has to be just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source. It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter. Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign super bad. She's made two different appearances here on the Sean Ryan Show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind-blowing. And so I've asked her if she would... contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So it's gonna be all things terrorists, how terrorists are coming up through the southern border, how they're entering the country, how they're traveling, what these different terrorist organizations throughout the world are up to. And here's the best part, the newsletter is actually free. We're not gonna spam you. It's about one newsletter a week, maybe two if we release two shows.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
The only other thing that's going to be in there besides the Intel brief is if we have a new product or something like that. But like I said, it's a free CIA intelligence brief. Sign up. Link's in the description or in the comments. We'll see you in the newsletter. All right, Lindy, we're back from the break. We're going to get into some names here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
But, you know, just on the, what, 10-minute break that we took, guess what? Mitch McConnell fell down the stairs again. My producer, Jeremy, just found it on Twitter, right? So, dude, this is a huge problem. This is a huge problem.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
What? I don't know what... How do people keep voting this shit in? It's just mind-blowing on either side. It just doesn't make any damn sense to me at all.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah, but you see it here right now. You can do a podcast for free, and we crush the numbers of mainstream media. It's ridiculous.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I'm just trying to humanize the candidate, find out who exactly they are, where they grew up, what their actual values are. I think it's hard to... It's hard to hide that in a two-, three-hour interview, even an hour-long interview.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Tell me about Beyoncé.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
We invited her. We were talking to her people, and, you know, it was— It could only be an hour. Then we had to discuss the topics first. And it just got to the point where I was like, look, why don't you just give me the outline and I'll do that interview? Because I don't care what you give me. I'll make it work. And then, you know what I think it was?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
You know, there's a lot of corruption coming out right now about USAID. Did they fund any of this campaign?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah. Man, I don't think they're, I mean, what's it going to take for the Democrat Party to turn things around?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I think they're going to have to be honest with the American people and admit a lot of faults and it's going to take somebody really tough to turn that around.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah, it seems like all the moderates have switched. One other question. I brought up Biden's doctors and how they said that he's— Kevin O'Connor. What's his name?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I've always wondered who it was. But, you know, there's a lot of people that think that he was basically doped up before he would get on TV or get on and give a speech or whatever. Is there any truth to that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I was wondering because I was there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah, I was there for that. And he seemed sharp at the beginning and then—
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So any rumors of... I mean, you were in there. Were there any rumors of him getting doped up, Adderall?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I think it was the Brad Bear interview, which honestly, to be honest with you, I didn't even think it was that bad. I mean, there was a couple parts, but I thought she handled it okay. But it was like after that, it was dead silence. We had Newsweek put something out. We had the Washington Post put something out, and it just turned into crickets.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So even within the Democratic crowd, they knew something was going on?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Wow. Wow. So let's move into... Who was running the presidency for the last four years? A lot of people say it was Obama's third term. There's rumors of, you know, and these aren't even, these are friends of mine that are moderate Democrats say they thought it was Elizabeth Warren running it. They thought it was Bernie Sanders running it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
But I think the general consensus, I think if you ask the majority of the population, they think it was Obama's third term.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So let's go through each name for— For all of the audience, not everybody is as tuned in with who's who in the political world.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Who's the first name you mentioned?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Who's the next name?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Who's the next name?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Why do you have a soft spot for somebody who's running the country in the shadows to the ground?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Is there any, did we cover all the names?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Jill Biden.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
It doesn't surprise me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I don't think anybody would argue that. Okay. And so when we say, was this Obama's third term, how was he connected with these people?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Why do you think she can't? Do you think she's intimidated? Do you think...
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
The border, the Afghanistan withdrawal, the DEI, the LGBTQ... Well, you got to keep in mind that a lot of these people hated each other.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
recently appointed to the Trump-Vance Inaugural Committee, raising money for President Trump's inauguration. Now you work with RNC leadership, and you are the youngest woman ever to run for Congress in American history. When did you run for Congress?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So where did, I mean, I guess, where did the agenda come from then? Did it come from Obama through these people?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Mm-hmm. Yeah. And, man, this is crazy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I mean— What about all the executive orders? Who was writing those up?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So they were just all these different people that weren't congregating with each other. There was no, like, collective agenda.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And what was he doing this whole time? I mean, he wasn't doing press conferences. Nobody had ever heard from him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Going to bed at 8 p.m.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So what's his daily routine? I mean, he's not writing the executive orders. He doesn't even really know what's going on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
He watches Morning Joe.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And then what? Did you space this out?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I think a lot of things hit, you know, funding terrorism.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Ukraine, the border.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Was it intentional? No.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Is there a...
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Was that the agenda? I mean, was that the— Was that the talk behind the scenes? We've got to get these people in to turn them into voters?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Lindy Lee, welcome to the show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I can't answer that. I don't know. Did he have any senators or congressmen in his era?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So very influential to Biden.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And so let's go back to, I'm trying to figure out how Obama was running the show because you pretty much said, yes, it was Obama's third term.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
But we're also saying that all of the people that you just mentioned were not on the same page. It was very argumentative. They didn't like each other. And so if he was influencing all of them, it seems like they would have been on the same page.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Poor Clooney.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So were these his agendas? Were these Obama's agendas that we saw roll out over the past four years? That's what I'm asking because, you know, I am a realist, and I just want to know the truth. And so, you know, like I had mentioned, like a lot of people think that it was Obama's third term, but then we have you saying that these people weren't getting along.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
If it was orchestrated— Then from him, then it seems like these people will be getting along. And do you see what I'm saying?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Okay. So were they—why are they so fearful of Trump? Are they worried that—we saw these executive orders come out. Does it have to do with protecting themselves? You know, we have the Epstein stuff that's hopefully going to come out if Kash Patel gets in. We have the Diddy stuff going on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
They think that Trump was on that list?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So they're not trying to protect themselves.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Let's talk about the executive orders that came out at the very end.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Terrible. So who orchestrated that? I mean, who was on there? It was Fauci was on there. Yeah. There was Milley was on there. There was the J6 committee was on there. Who am I, am I missing anybody?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah, that was the first run. That was what, the night before. And then what, it was like an hour or two before. And by the way- It was his entire family.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
She definitely didn't seem quick on their feet, but I would still love to interview her. And I'm glad Joe was able to set the record straight.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So who orchestrated, let's talk about the families first. Who, did that come from Jill?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
But did he know? Did he understand? Did Joe Biden know what was going on?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So he was with it enough to orchestrate all of that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I don't remember that debate.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Well, what I'm asking is, did Fauci get to him and did these people ask for the pardons?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Who was pressuring him?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah. What's she doing now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
That's why you turned Republican?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
What's this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
This is from you. Hi, Lauren. I was just walking to get my dinner. A group of teenagers started pelting rocks at my head. I am now bruised and crying. Do you have any thoughts on how to move past this? Thanks so much. Hope you're well. Please feel free to respond when you're back in the office. No need to rush. Just needed to send this. This just happened, and I'm shaken. A million thank yous.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Run for governor in California?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah, and they defund the police movement. I mean, what are they going to do, you know? What are they going to do? They have nobody to back them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Genius move.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So is that—I mean, what other values or—I mean, is there anything else? I mean— Just looking at it from a different perspective, I mean, you've been demonized, you've been ostracized from the Democratic Party. You say you've lost all of your friends. I mean, are you looking for acceptance in the Republican Party because you have nobody? Does that have a play in this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
But let's just take all the acceptance and decent people out of it. Let's just talk about what is it about conservative values that draws you into the party?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Do you feel like you've lied to the American people through the concealment of Joe Biden's cognitive decline?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
As we kind of close this interview out, what do you have to say to members of the Democratic Party who were a big part of that lie? who did not have the courage to speak up or say anything still to this day.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
It's going to take a lot of work.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Oh, yeah, I saw it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah. Well, Lindy, I really appreciate you coming. And do you have any more aspirations?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I appreciate that. Well, Lindy, best of luck to you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
What made you want to run for Congress at 24?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Man. Well, she'd probably be a shoo-in out in California.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Wow. Yeah. All right, well, let's move in. We've got a couple things to cover first. So I have a Patreon account. They're our top supporters. A lot of them have been with us since the very beginning. I started this thing in my attic, believe it or not, and then we moved here. Now we're building a new studio, and it's all because of them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So one of the things I do is I offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question. And so this question is from Eric Alger. Lindy. You're a strong advocate for progressive policies and frequently appear in the mainstream media to push your message. Conservatives often argue that media landscape is overwhelmingly biased towards the left. Silencing Dissenting voices.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Given your platform and reach, do you acknowledge that there is a media bias problem? And if not, how do you explain the censorship and suppression of conservative viewpoints on major platforms?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Sir, are you anti-2A?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I think everybody is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
How do you think it was rigged?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So I'm actually curious. What's the answer in your opinion?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Well, we're going to dive into all that corruption. All right. Oh, and then lastly, everybody gets a gift here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
A little something for the ride home.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
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Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Oh, yeah, they're in the store, but they're always sold out.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
You're welcome. All right. So let's move on. So a little bit about you. Your great-grandfather was executed by the CCP, correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
What did he do?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
That's interesting, because the universe is expanding. Yes. So we will hit, and they can see the beginning, they can see the Big Bang, from what I understand, supposedly, correct? They... It happened, however many...
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Yeah, yeah. I mean, Pluto is no longer a planet. Lots of things change. But I'm just always fascinated in the subject. I'm trying to wrap my head around it, and I just don't have the IQ level to comprehend it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
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Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
You played a key role in the remote viewing intelligence program now known to the world by the code name Stargate. For 10 years, you were the operations and training officer of this secret remote viewing program.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Before we do, everybody gets a gift here. Oh, yeah? Nothing crazy, just a little something for the ride home. Those are Vigilance Elite gummy bears. Oh, boy. Yeah, I hope you like candy. A little treat. Yeah. Made here in the USA, Michigan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Right on, right on. Well, Skip, like I had mentioned at the beginning, you're a massive part, played a massive role in the Stargate program and remote viewing and in U.S. intelligence. And so I want to talk about your journey on how that all came about. And so let's kind of start with, let's start in childhood. Where did you grow up?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
You recruited and trained an elite cadre of professional intelligence officers to do remote viewing for the Department of Defense and various members of the national intelligence community. After retiring from the Army, you became president of the Monroe Institute in Virginia.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So when you say—let's rewind for just a second. When you say you would get out of bed and look out the window, and then you would look back and you would be in bed, I mean, how old were you when this started happening, right around 10?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
In your book, Project 8200, UFO UAP Bases and Activities, the original remote viewing transcripts, you show us the results of Pat Price's famous exploration of four mountains around the world where Price believed UFO bases were located. You're the author of Captain of My Ship, Master of My Soul, Living with Guidance.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So does that mean when you interact with somebody in a dream, you believe they are also out of body?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
You have been featured in several film documentaries, including Ghosts in the Afterlife, A Scientific Investigation, and Third Eye Spies. I'm sure I'm missing quite a bit there, but that's quite deep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
That is, that is, that is. But, you know, I'm just... I have been... fascinated with this subject for many years now. And with every person that I interview, I just get more intrigued. And you have been involved in this almost since the very beginning, from what I understand.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
God. If you use the word God, yeah. What do you use personally? You just use a hand's motion.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
And so some of the things that I would just, I would like, two main things I would like to do in this interview is one, to cover your life story and how you kind of got involved in this. And I would also like to go over, you know, the history of the Stargate program and kind of how it came on the map for United States intelligence. Yes. Perfect. I can talk about all that. Perfect.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Let's rewind real quick. Yes. So it sounds like your mom had some type of ability as well. Yes. Did your father?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
But before we get too in the weeds, I have a Patreon account. Patreon, it's a subscription account. They're our top supporters. A lot of these folks have been with us since the very beginning, and they're the reason I get to sit here and you're here as well. And so one of the things I do is I offer them the opportunity to ask every guest a question. And so this question is from Jay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Did you ever hear any conversations between your parents about some of these abilities?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Real quick, before we get into Fort Meade, how did you find out about remote viewing through the Army side of Army intelligence? Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What neurological structures in the brain are responsible for these altered states of consciousness? Is it simply dreaming?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
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Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
and working through this situation to get these people trained wow very interesting so how did you how did you guys where did you start i mean a lot of people have security clearances there's a lot of people in the intelligence world it sounds it sounds out there it is what it is yes um
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What are some of the... What are some of the evaluations that you guys were conducting to find the best candidates?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Were any of these people, were any of these Were any of these six people surprised that they were chosen? I mean, how do I describe this? Was anybody surprised at the program and surprised in the reasons you're evaluating them for?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Do you know how we found out other intelligence agencies and countries were doing this? Spies.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What were they? Can you tell me what they were remote viewing inside the U.S.?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Okay, so six guys, six people, you guys took in. What happens then?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Very, very interesting. I mean, what is time then? What is it? If it doesn't exist, then what is it? It's a thing that we have invented to organize our lives on earth.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Let's talk about some of your career in remote viewing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Interesting. Understandable as well. How was Joe? when you met him?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What kind of questions was the Pentagon interested in?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
We read every review that comes through, and we really appreciate the support. Thank you. Let's get back to the show. All right, Skip, we're back from the break. And right before we left, we're getting ready to get into Project 8200.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
But you had mentioned an important point that you wanted to bring up about how the remote viewer knows what to focus on, it sounded like, in the middle of their journey or experience. What do you call it? Yes. Is it an experience?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Makes a lot of sense. Makes a lot of sense. So back to the original question. So it's not a dream?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Four UFO bases.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
And this just came in just completely random one day. This ad comes in, and there it is. Four UFO bases around the world. Where were they?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
You know, that's a very interesting demand considering it's all done in your brain. That's telling you, I mean, essentially the same thing as telling you, don't think about these things. I'm your boss. I tell you what to think and how to think. Right. How did Pat respond to that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Probably motivated him to do more.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
My kind of guy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So do you, this is interesting, do you, and I know this is going to tie into your childhood too, I think, but do you think that every dream needs to be deciphered and dissected and decoded?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What did he... And so these bases, were they part of the challenge targets?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So before we get into what they saw, what did Pat see at these bases?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What do you mean four different types of people? Races? Genders? What are we talking here? Just different projects that they're on?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So what is the material that you had on these four different locations? What were they?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
When you talk, what was, I'm sorry, what was the terminology again? Quantum? Quantum non-locality.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So what was Pat's transcript specifically? What was going on at these four different locations? The one in Australia, Alaska, Spain, and the location in Africa?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Oh, no. They're not going to turn the channel off. Because the reason I'm asking is I don't understand. I've tried to talk about this so many times, and it's just over my head. And so when we say there's no space and no time and everything's happening all at once in the now, correct? Yes. What does that mean? So what was yesterday?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Skip Atwater, welcome to the show. Thank you very much. I have heard a lot about you from several of the previous guests. I've read about you. I've seen documentaries about you. You're a hard man to reach. Been trying to make contact for quite a while, and Joe and Scooter finally... They were the ones that made the connection. So I just want to say thank you to Joe and Scooter.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What is that? Did he expound upon that at all?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
And... Now, what about, you had said, you had just mentioned maybe they programmed, they used the program thoughts to conceal the entrance. What are you speaking of when you say people can walk through things?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
How do you articulate that? How do you—what's happening there? How is that happening?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Well, what about the, so this was Mount Hayes, correct, that we were just speaking of?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What are Pat and Joe saying about the other three locations? Were they identical? Were there any variations?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Had anyone else other than Joe and Pat remote viewed these locations?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So with everything that you know about this and, I mean, you set up Project 8200, I mean, what is your conclusion? What are these?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
But it was... It was pretty weird. Weird all right.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So we're talking six to seven different remote viewers all remote viewed these locations and had something very similar to say. Yes. And has there been any reported activity from... civilian population, news, media, anything from any of these locations?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Absolutely.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Do you mind if I text this to myself so we can put it on screen?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So if everything's happening all at once, all the time, and there is no time, I then that means every you could break it down into you could break a millisecond down into a what a nanosecond and break that down and it just continuously it never ends you can just keep dissecting and so does that mean Where is all this happening all at once?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Now, this is a dream or this is real or?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
This is an out-of-body experience. So you had an out-of-body experience in a grassy knoll. That's... Is that correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Mount Hayes?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Oh, um. I don't know. Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
That means everything's happening all at once, so that means what I just said two seconds ago is happening again, correct? There's no again if it's all at once.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
And so you're talking about quantum, what was it, quantum locale, correct? Yeah. And so there has to be some kind of a connection. If you heard of, what is it they call it? Man, now I'm having problems. Quantum entanglement.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
It has to be something like that. Our entire conversation you've been talking about, everything is one, how everything is connected. Even the Chinese have claimed to be able to communicate with their satellites now via...
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
quantum entanglement whether that's real or bullshit i don't know but supposedly the premise is every atom is connected and and you know we've talked about this several times on the show if you split an atom in half and you vibrate this half no matter where yes in Space and time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
The other half is it will mimic the exact same vibration that's being manipulated on the other half. And so that has to be, that has, oh, I guess it doesn't have to, but I would think that that would come into play.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So I guess it's just a matter of if you trust your own experiences or not.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Do you trust your own experiences?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Interesting concept that I've not heard before. Do you have any other... How far down the rabbit hole did you guys go with this? Were there other projects other than 8200? Of that time, no. I mean, there... I mean, I remember when I interviewed Joe, he had mentioned... He had mentioned remote viewing a pyramid on Mars. I believe the year was 2000 BC. Do you have any recollection of that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
I sent Joe to Mars. You're the one that sent him there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Can you just kind of relive that experience? Actually, let me start with a preliminary question. How did that pop up on anybody's radar? Why did you even give Joe a specific grid coordinate on Mars with a date?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
You don't remember why somebody gave you a coordinate to have Joe McMoneagle remote view Mars?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Okay. What did you think when Joe discovered the pyramid through his experience?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
I would appreciate that. Would it be okay if we put some of the clips into this interview as we talk about it? Sure, because then you would have the show. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
The agency just decided they were going to cremate him and bury him in an unmarked grave.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
I would probably... If I were you, I would go to the locations that people said that he was buried and see what's there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So, you have reason to believe that Pat Price's death was false and that he may still be alive doing work? Oh, he'd be well over 100 years old now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Yeah, very interesting. Well, Skip, we are getting close to time here, so I do want to ask, why was the Stargate program dismantled?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
They already had five.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
They already had five other programs. Did I say that? What are those programs?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Fair enough. Well, Skip, I really appreciate you making the trip out here, and it's just a fascinating subject, and it's cool to be talking to somebody that was a part of it all. Thank you, Skib.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Have a good one.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So if no time, so I'm trying to understand the concept of no time, everything's happening at once, but what is the space? When you say there's no space, what does that mean?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
I'm glad to be here. It's an honor to have you here. But everybody gets an introduction here, so we'll knock that out first. Frederick Holmes, Skip Atwater. You were a counter-spy during the Cold War era where you used your natural psychic aptitude as a U.S. Army counterintelligence special agent.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
We looked that up last night, too, and all we could find out was same thing, science fiction type stuff. But You know, there are some things that line up. One is, like I had mentioned, well, let's talk about the guy's story. Obviously, he had a VBID. Obviously, he was in the military and served. And the thing that he was talking about in 2019, we pulled a report. This is from October 9th, 2019.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
UN report, find... Alleged drug facilities were not lawful target airstrikes caused and caused significant civilian casualties. The United Nations Special Report, which examines the impact on civilians of the United States airstrikes on alleged drug processing facilities on 5 May 2019 in Afghanistan, determines the operation caused a large number of civilian casualties.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
So I just want to say thank you for being here because I was eavesdropping in on that conversation you had with Jeremy. And this is a big story, man. This is big. It is. Real big. And so thank you for being here. I appreciate it. Thank you. But I do, before we get too heavy, I got some gifts for you. Here you go. Excellent. So we're talking about people monitoring the phone.
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#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
The report also examines the legal framework applicable to this incident. In June 2019, the UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan, together with representatives of the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission, conducted a site visit to areas impacted by the strikes in Farah Province, Bakwa District, as part of its extensive fact-finding into the 5 May incident.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
The UN verified 39 civilian casualties, among them 14 children, one woman, from multiple airstrikes on more than 60 sites that the United States, Afghanistan identified as drug production facilities in Bakwa district and in parts of neighboring Dalaran district of Nimroz province.
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#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Moreover, the UN is working to verify credible reports of at least 37 additional civilian casualties, the majority of whom were women and children. Although airstrikes on the alleged drug processing facilities had taken place before, this was the first time that UNAMA had received reports of large number of civilian casualties resulting from such an operation. And it goes on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I'm not going to read all this. We'll link the article here. So that 100% lines up. The other thing that really struck me is, like I had mentioned, after our phone call,
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
jumped in an interview after the interview checked my phone and i had several green berets former green berets one still active actually i'm just gonna say it was uh tim kennedy um sent me a message late last night about 9 00 p.m and said hey the i should have brought my phone up here but hey basically that the that USASOC wants to give me more context on what had happened on this guy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And so first I wasn't going to take the call because I don't like, I don't trust the government anymore. I don't think anybody does. But I was on the phone with my producer, who was a naval surface warfare officer, and my attorney, Tim Parlatori. They said we should talk to him. So I called Tim.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
was really pissed off uh reamed his ass about it and then later apologized but you know i think you said you had mentioned that nobody you'd received a message from somebody that says nobody's heard of this guy tim sent me a picture of him working shooting with this guy and uh I don't know if I should release that photo or not, but Tim basically told me this. So I got the POA's number.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
The public affairs officer sent it to Jeremy and Tim. He talked to them. And what they wanted us to know was that this guy was an upstanding soldier. an excellent operator, was moving towards retirement and moving on to basically enhance the future of warfare. They wanted us to know that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Then the PA officer, sounds like almost jokingly said, which I don't know why you would joke about this, said that, oh, and between us, Which, why the fuck would a POA officer say between us? I mean, if they didn't want us to know that information, then they just wouldn't have told us that. But they wanted us to know, obviously, that the DNA with his supposed child was not a match.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And so I think what they were trying to do is basically make this out to be, oh, this is why this happened. He got bad news that that's not his child. And so that's why he did it. But with all the other context, especially with the 2019 incident, which was obviously a cover-up, I think that has a major role in this. The other thing is...
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Have you heard of the Unplugged phone? Yeah. And for anybody that wants to purchase this phone, you can get it at unplugged.com slash Sean Ryan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I started receiving a lot of messages, uh, from one of the redacted names. Who's a DA agent. The one that he's talking about in the, in the email to you, we got it from multiple sources. One of which was actually a videographer for me. I think four years ago, he worked for me a very short period of time. Uh, I had to let him go. He went to, he joined the army, went to OCS, became an army officer.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Sent me a text, super freaked out. Apparently he was on some rafting trip with somebody that knows the DEA officer and said, hey, this guy's still operational. He wants his name redacted. Not the only one. Then I received a message from another very close friend of mine who's been on the show several times saying that he got word that this guy was still operational.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And so that's why we decided to redact his name. I was getting upset because I didn't receive any communication up to that point. Well, then I checked my LinkedIn. I said, let me see if this guy actually messaged me. Sure as shit, that DEA agent did message me, said that he wanted to talk to me before tomorrow's interview. It was really important. We tried to contact him, not from my phone.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Yeah. So the unplugged phone keeps big tech from monitoring your texts and your calls. There's a secure messaging app in there. There's a secure email. So get that thing wired up. Absolutely. Let's talk on that from now on. Okay. And then everybody gets a bag of these. Been waiting for this. Nice. This is awesome. Thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome. Very cool.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I'm not calling any of these people, but from somebody else's phone. He didn't pick up and we weren't going to send any text thread to show any communication between us any more than the LinkedIn message. And I didn't hit him on LinkedIn. So that also 100% checks out. Now, the weird thing is, as anonymous as this guy wants to remain,
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
if i remember correctly he posted something about the green beret that that that i'm off yeah that was his latest post well jeremy what was it what did the post It was just, yeah, it was just a report of the story. So very interesting how all this stuff is lining up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Look at that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Well, they definitely got in touch with CID. Yeah, they did. Because that went all the way to the top of the Army. And I'm going to dig in a little bit more on this report from 2019. However, according to international humanitarian law, including international customary law,
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Facilities that contribute economically or financially to the war effort or of a party to a conflict are considered civilian objectives. The report jointly produced by UNAMA and the UN Human Rights Office concludes that the drug facilities associated with workers may not be lawfully made the target of attack and should be protected. The United Nations maintains
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
But all right, let's dive into it. This is going to be kind of tough. I didn't have, like I said, I was interviewing yesterday, so we're kind of winging it here. Yeah. So before we jump in, I just want to say a couple things about today. And we're not necessarily validating what came in on that email.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
that considering these objectives and individuals, legitimate targets dangerously erode the fundamental principle of distinction, placing the broader civilian population and infrastructure at risk. The report sets out a number of recommendations, including that the appropriate and legal response to illicit drug activity is through law enforcement, not military operations that endanger civilians.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I think we should take a quick break. I want to scrape our email to see if this Green Beret, what's his name again? Matt Livelsberg. Matt Livelsberg. Let's see if Matthew Livelsberger sent us an email through our website email desk. We'll be right back. I know everybody out there has to be
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source. It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter. Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign super bad. She's made two different appearances here on The Sean Ryan Show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind blowing. And so I've asked her if she would, contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
So it's gonna be all things terrorists, how terrorists are coming up through the southern border, how they're entering the country, how they're traveling, what these different terrorist organizations throughout the world are up to. And here's the best part, the newsletter is actually free. We're not gonna spam you. It's about one newsletter a week, maybe two if we release two shows.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
The only other thing that's going to be in there besides the Intel brief is if we have a new product or something like that. But like I said, it's a free CIA intelligence brief. Sign up. Link's in the description or in the comments. We'll see you in the newsletter. Thank you for listening to The Sean Ryan Show.
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#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
If you haven't already, please take a minute, head over to iTunes, and leave The Sean Ryan Show a review. We read every review that comes through, and we really appreciate the support. Thank you. Let's get back to the show. All right, Sam, we're back from the break. We did do a scrape of the email. Here is what we got. He actually did email us.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
This came in on December 29th, 2024 at 10.17 p.m., emailed through the support desk on SeanRyanShow.com. And by the way, all these emails will be posted on my ex-account, SeanRyan762, and your ex-account? Samus Hoare. All right, here's the message traffic. Hey man, this is an active duty SFTM sergeant out of 10th. I want to blow the whistle on our activities in a certain place.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
There's some pretty alarming stuff that came out in the email about the drones that we're seeing on the East Coast and some capabilities that China has, capabilities that we have. Some activity that went on in Afghanistan in 2019, which actually we do have news reports that that is valid. A lot of this stuff actually really lines up, but we can't give it 100% credibility.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I'm willing to sit down with you on the 31st and flag staff. Or do it remotely via phone. Must be done before the 31st as I'll be leaving. So we'll be sending this to the FBI as well. Love your contact. I'm also going to hit some people I know over there. But these people don't always talk. So I think it would be good to keep some continuity here. So we did receive an email. What was this, guys?
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Yeah, I was going to throw that up there, but there's tens of thousands of messages in there. Yeah. I mean, it's very obvious why he did this, I think. He wanted to bring attention to the incident in 2019 that got covered up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Well, the other thing is maybe the FBI wasn't in his phone. I mean, this guy's obviously very competent. I mean, he's got a TSSCI clearance, I'm sure, with a polygraph. He's been associated with USASOC. Obviously, he was on this operation in 2019. By the way, the general in charge of that was General Miller. You'll see that in the email that we post on X later after this interview comes out.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
You know, maybe he changed his number on purpose and switched phones because he obviously was tipped off or conducted his own counter surveillance and caught Homeland or FBI tracking him. And so I think there's a very good possibility that this, that Matthew Livelsberger might be still alive.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
The Desert Eagle, you know, the Desert Eagle. I mean... Yeah, a little over-the-top firearm.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
But if you think about it, if he was going to kill himself or whoever was in that car was going to kill himself, look, if I was going to commit suicide with a firearm, I would go with the biggest possible bullet, caliber of bullet that I could to make sure that it actually worked because I wouldn't want to be sitting there choking all over myself with a fucking 9mm or something. True. So...
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I think you would agree with that as an intelligence analyst. 100%. And then additionally, there are a few names too, I believe, that we are redacting from this because they are still operational. And as much as I would love to release those names, we're not going to do it so that those guys can remain undercover and not burn their entire operation of what they're into right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
That is, as far as I know, a .50 caliber Desert Eagle is the biggest handgun caliber that you can get. And so that could play into this as well. There's a lot going on. Was there something in that email, again, that said that this would prevent World War III with the UAP drone?
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I wonder what he's trying to do with these, what he's trying to tell us with these drones.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Well, you have the stuff with Ryan Graves and is it Dan, Dan Favor, Dave Favor?
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
The Commander David Favor, who, you know, was it the Nimitz? Yeah, the Nimitz strike group in 2004 that reported those UAPs coming out of the water and had no propulsion system. Right, I remember that. But, you know, and it's interesting that nobody seems to know what the drones are, and it just, you know, kind of disappeared out of the media.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And, you know, and the other thing is we do have the capability to take these drones out. Well, everybody was trying to figure out what the drone's on. I brought on... a very prominent businessman, Joe Lonsdale, who is the co-founder of a company called Epirus. Epirus is a they manufacture these directed EMP weapons that can take out
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
a hundred drones at a time, uh, with a, with a, with a basically sends out a simultaneous, um, different, different, uh, directed EMP weapons brought him on. He's also, uh, founder of Palantir, big AI platform that the military has been using. Sure. Uh, that kind of revolutionized warfare. Big fan. So, so we could have taken those drones out in any moment in time. In fact, uh,
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I know those are deployed. So that could be. So he had two objectives. One, he definitely wanted to bring light to 2019. That obviously affected his code of morale, morals. And the drones. Yeah. And he's obviously very worried about world war three, which I think everybody right now, but why, why Trump hotel?
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I mean, it's very obvious. Look, the guy's got great tradecraft. I mean, he changed his signal number, if that was him, or whatever the contact number on signal. 20 plus year in special operations at the highest level. picked a car that's bulletproof to do this. I think, yeah, there definitely wasn't mass casualties.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And there was one more thing. I want to give a little background on you. Retired from the Army in 2023 as a CW2 intelligence officer and understand the information war. In 2020, you were still on active duty. You started a social media account where you intended to share memes and gifs. Despite your intentions, the account grew into what it is today. You've developed, what is the account's name?
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
He wasn't trying to hit mass casualties, mass casualties, because otherwise he would have done it at another location as well, or the bomb would have been bigger to take the entire building down. And so this definitely wasn't In my opinion, this definitely wasn't incompetence.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Yeah, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Wow. Do you think there was any correlation between him and the New Orleans attack? No. I don't either.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
You know, I wonder... I don't really believe in coincidences. And both of these explosions happened on the same day. Or both of these attacks, whatever you want to call them, happened on the same day. The attack and the explosion, which obviously wasn't meant to be an attack.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
It's an Instagram account. It goes by Terminal CWO. Terminal CWO. You've developed a robust network of service members across the Department of Defense who trust you with their reports of unethical and, in some cases, illegal behavior from their leaders.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
You know, this email, I wonder who else he reached out to. This came in from... dabber g m i b or mlb at protonmail.com so it was even using an encrypted email service but which i think everybody everybody in intelligence and special operations knows what proton mail is
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Didn't take long. Jan 1, it hit. It's interesting. We couldn't get any mainstream media outlets to pay attention to those interviews, and nobody would really give Sarah a voice. Now everybody wants to give Sarah a voice because, oh, guess what? The fucking CIA targeter was actually right. Mainstream media gave her no attention. So that's been going crazy. I come in yesterday for an interview.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
You expose the unethical and illegal behavior while protecting whistleblowers in order to hold military leaders accountable, which is why you received the email from the Green Beret. Yes. And because of your background, you come across wild information all the time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
So we now have Iranian missiles, who knows how many, inside the United States.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
You're here today because of an email you received from Matthew Livelsberger a couple of days before the Cybertruck bombing at Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas. You'll also be able to discuss what you know about The terrorists who conducted the New Orleans attack, did it miss anything?
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
know i mean i'm with you on the not releasing certain things on social media i understand that but on the other way on the other hand it seems to be the only way to demand any type of accountability or get this and and enforce fbi homeland whoever else is involved to dive into this and actually take part that's what we've been doing here on the show with scott mann uh retired lieutenant colonel green beret
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Sarah Adams, former agency targeter. We brought on Legend, who's an Army intelligence guy who goes by Legend because he doesn't want to reveal his name because he still is very involved. And we even went all the way to Vienna to interview Commander Massoud, the leader of the National Resistance Front in Afghanistan. And You know, we've been talking about this stuff for a year, a year.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
We got it to Congress, Congressman out of Knoxville, Tennessee, Tim Burchard sent a bill up. It's literally about, we need to stop funding the Taliban, 40 to $87 million a week. The Taliban has set up multiple NGOs within Afghanistan. And basically what we're doing is sending loads of cash
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
to ngos that the taliban had set up we're funding our own demise and nobody's paying attention nobody's paying attention we tried to get it in the media we got a little bit of hits most of them were um uh from from outside the us we had a a report around india kind of cover it but We've been warning about what's happening for damn near a year now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Sarah first came on, I believe it was October of 2023, was her first interview. And nobody took it seriously. Now we have the New Orleans attack. We have Iranian missiles. We have these invisible bombs. Do you know about the invisible bombs? No.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
So now these terrorist organizations have developed invisible bombs that will get through metal detectors, any kind of screening device that's out there, and they brag about this. And now we just did a Twitter Spaces with Sarah Adams, and they are now bragging that – That what we know about the invisible bomb, it's now even more advanced than it was before.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
So that means they can get this into stadiums. They can get this into airports. They can get this pretty much anywhere they want because you cannot detect it. That's scary. Yeah. Great. So, you know, for the people out there, you know, look, there's no stopping what's here. You cannot stop this. Nope.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Not with what we have already in here. We have sleeper cells. We're already getting reports that We're already getting reports that – I just lost my train of thought. Oh, we're already getting some reports that there may be more involved in the Louisiana, New Orleans attack that they're not releasing. We also – I'll tell you this. There's a group of people flying around and –
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And basically briefing up different departments, governors about what's coming, how to deal with it in their communities. There are deputies in New Orleans who put in requests for training on how to take care of a threat like this. And those fucking requests were denied. They were denied. And so what I basically want to say is it's going to be a bloody 2025. I think that's very obvious.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And so for those of you that are looking for something to do and, and if, if, if finally come to the realization that our government is failing us, Here's what you need to do. You need to get with your local communities. You need to, especially schools. Schools are very vulnerable.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
No matter how many active shooters we have in the schools, the infrastructure that's been put in, which is minimal to none, a lot of schools still have none, you better start holding your schools accountable and you better start raising hell and having them
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Perfect. One other thing that I just wanted to say to the audience is even though we are redacting these names from the episode, you pass that, I believe you pass that email on to the FBI. Yes. We're also going to pass it on to our contacts at the FBI. It's very obvious that people know it. Like I said, the CID has been telling everybody.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
upgrade security no matter what the cost because no matter what the cost is it's not gonna it's it's not gonna amount to the loss of life that we will potentially see uh throughout the united states and so and Start calling your congressmen. Get these guys to do something. Start calling your senators. Get these guys to do something.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
They have been warned for over a year that this is coming and nobody wants to take it seriously. Nobody wants to take it seriously. We contacted the House of Foreign Affairs Committee. They did like a Zoom call. A Zoom call. Just for a little media hit. Our government is failing us. And so it's in our hands now. It's your kids. It's your wife. It's your husband. It's your parents.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
They're going to pay the price for what we have installed in this country. And it's now up to us because they aren't going to do anything. So on that note, like I said, it'll be on my ex-account, SeanRyan762. The emails will be there. The footage will be there. Any of the stuff we talked about will be there. It'll be obviously on audio, on YouTube. And your accounts on Instagram and X are...
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And once again, Sam, I really appreciate you coming out. I wonder if this fucking guy is still alive.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
In fact, we talked to Jeremy, who's sitting over there, my producer, me, him, and my attorney, Tim Parlatori. We're up till about 1030 last night talking to the chief of staff. The army chief of staff's POA took a major interest in this as well. And, you know, one of the things that he said was, Maybe... I'll wait till later to bring that up. But he... I don't know.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I don't trust any of these people. I mean, public affairs officers are there to... I'll keep my mouth. Yeah. Create... Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Let's recreate what the story is. But you know what's interesting? Fuck it. I'm just going to say it. You know what he said? He goes, on the call, he said, I didn't talk to him. I didn't want to talk to him. But- So I had them talk to him. He said, between me and you guys, this guy's DNA didn't match his son. And made it sound like it's some big secret.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Then at 9.34 p.m., I saw, I think it was 9.34 p.m., the New York Post had a headline that said that this guy's... So they're trying to make it sound like this guy did this because...
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Sam Shoemate, welcome to the show, man. Appreciate it. Thank you. I'm nervous about this one. Yeah, me too. I'm really nervous about this one. So yesterday I come into work and our stuff's been exploding because of the Sarah Adams. I had Sarah Adams, Scott Mann, legend, did an interview with Massoud kind of warning everybody about It's going to be a lot of terrorism here in 2025.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
The first thing I do is talk to my producer, Jeremy, and he says that, He's been in contact with you and that you had received some type of manifesto or email from the Green Beret that set off the car bomb at Trump Hotel in Las Vegas. Right. Jump in an interview and come out. My phone is blown up. apparently CID army CID, which is how would you describe it? It's like the, it's FBI light.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
While you're digging through that, you know what we should do? I should get that Instagram account from you to see if they messaged any of our Instagram accounts, and we should also get that email address. I don't have it. I deleted it. You deleted it. He told me to delete it, and I deleted it. Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
We should also get that email address and see if they sent it in through the website and see if he tried to contact us, get that to the FBI.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Yeah. I get all these messages from these people that say CID is talking to this person and that person. And one of these guys on the list is still, uh, still operational and they want his name redacted and, Every Green Beret I know is texting me about this. Fucking really freaked me out, man. It was like, how did this leak? Who's tracking my fucking phone? All that kind of stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Is the chief of base hearing this, Bob? Yes, it's all on the talk, because they're open mics. I mean, so he's hearing this, and he's still not letting you go. He's not letting us go. What was the relationship like to him before this night?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Now, I don't know if he's still doing that. Are you fucking kidding me? They took that fucking clown and put him at the farm to train all the upcoming guys?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What a fucking joke. I know. What a fucking joke. Take that guy and put him in charge of the fucking up-and-coming case officers. Wow. And that's why that fucking agency doesn't do shit anymore.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What if?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What do you think he thinks about every day?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What do you mean God kicked you in the ass and said, get up? Quit whining. Quit feeling like a victim. Is that a feeling you got? Is that a voice you heard?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Oh, no, you're good. Everybody gets one. Chris Peranto, former Army Ranger, 2nd Battalion, 75th Regiment. You responded to the Benghazi 2012 attack. You're the author of The Ranger Way and the Patriot's Creed, co-author of 13 Hours, the inside account of what really happened in Benghazi. You're a motivational and public speaker and the co-host on Battleline Podcast.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I know who he is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What I'm asking is, was he— Scared?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I know he was scared. I know who he is. I'm trying to figure out how to ask this question the right way.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I guess what I'm trying to ask was, did you guys even keep him informed? Was he even really part of the team, or have you totally just...
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Like 99% of the staffers in GRS, they're just liaisons. They're not operators. They're just like, just go liaison.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
We don't even really know what you do here. Not qualified to be here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I can't fucking stand them. I can't stand them. It's probably something I'll never get over. The amount of worthless fucks that were in charge of me and you and all these other stellar performers. And then you get these chumps.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I think they were always just supposed to be liaisons, though. And then at some point in time, they inserted themselves to be some fucking leader. And it's like... Back to your desk, go get your fucking pen or your pencil and get the fuck out of my face. And that was him. But you can't say that because they'll fire you. But you can still push.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I did. And then you get fired.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You mean people don't want to watch a pussy pencil pusher write up a real man? I'm going to write you up because I'm not a real man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
That's probably what he was doing before this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You actually felt it in that moment?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You felt it before you started shooting or in the middle of it? In the middle of it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
How long were you there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You inspected his body?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
He was the one that... And everybody knows Leon Panetta was director of CIA at the time. At the time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
How many, I mean, did you guys have any estimate in your head?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
How many do you think there were?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I wasn't expecting to get this deep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What I want to ask, though, is I can see the rage returning right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You guys actually went through this entire checklist.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
So what was the... What was the turning point that kind of eased that rage?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Are you kidding?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You're the founder of the 14th Hour Foundation, owner of Battleline Tactical, and co-owner of Tonto Vodka.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
So it was doing the interviews that brought the rage back.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
How do you feel about doing this interview?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Man, I'll say it's... It's just nice to hear you guys have a healthy respect for each other.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You're the host of a pro-military documentary series, War Heroes. You co-founded E3 Firearms Association, and you're a father, husband, and a Christian.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
We'll get there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Wow.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Chris, I mean, you did it out of respect, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What would a normal human being say to you? Nothing. These people, who the hell knows?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I'll get my legs kicked. There's just so many staffers that have no concept of what that might be like. They haven't done it. They've never done anything. Nothing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Did that continue to work?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You only took 60 days off? I took 75.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
That's it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What was the first conversation like with your wife and kids?
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
It fell on deaf ears.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
How long did it take you, Chris, for, I mean, I mean, you were abandoned by the U.S. government.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
How long did it take you to rid yourself of that anger?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
How did you propose to your wife?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Second time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
That right there just tells everybody what a great man you are. I appreciate it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
That is a good woman.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Amazing. Well, Chris, there's a lot more we could dive into, but I think that's a perfect way to end it, brother. I appreciate you. I just want to tell you, man, I saw you speak. I saw how much pain you were in, you know, probably getting close to, Probably getting close to 10 years. Not quite. Where did you... Boca Raton.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I'm just really happy for you, man. Thank you. I can tell you're at peace now, and sounds like you got a great family and an amazing wife, and you deserve it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You're welcome. What is the E3 Firearms Association?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I was going to wait until the end of the interview. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to jump to that. Well, I mean, you brought it up. Let's do it now. I mean, I've always— I mean, obviously I've been following you guys. I mean, we were in the same profession. Of course, yeah. And I remember after it happened, you guys, you know, you did the book.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
We came out, lots of speaking events. I thought you guys used to speak together.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
And then it seemed like everything kind of, I mean, look, What happened? Why don't you guys get along?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Did you guys butt heads before Benghazi?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Isn't it funny how that's like the common theme amongst every GRS team that the staffer is always the weakest link?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
They get mad at me when I say this stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
We'll get into this later.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Let's move back to Yeah, growing up. We're past childhood. I want to get to this, but I want it to all be in one piece, if that's okay with you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
And so, football, college, what got your interest in the military?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
No kidding.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You literally signed up right there at the job fair.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Holy shit. Talk about an impulse move.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Well, how long did it take you to snap out of that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I left the Army. You left the Army. At the end of 1996. At the end of 1996, and then went back to your hometown?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Hold on, can I make a prediction? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you meet your current wife there? Get the fuck out of here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
So you're like depressed at home. Yeah. Drinking yourself to death. Tried to commit suicide with a bottle of Tylenol.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Now your buddy's like, we're going to South Padre Island.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What was the one-liner?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Chris Peranto, welcome to the show, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I did not. I did not know that. You would have not been invited to this show, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Well, I mean, there's a caveat to that, too. You know, I mean, what the f*** are people supposed to do? We've defunded the police. The border is wide open. Yeah. They are actively sending $87 million a week to the Taliban. Sorry, man. You know what I mean? But... People have to be able to defend themselves, and that's where they go to do it. And that stuff's out there no matter what.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Were you just like completely devastated that you were a bit discharged again?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Interesting.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I remember showing up at GRS and everybody was talking about the Bremer.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
And that's where it's just... It's where I can at least have some control, though. You know what I mean? I mean, people are... I 100% get your point.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
And it never changed throughout your entire contracting career.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Arguing tactics.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
But there is context. Things aren't the same as they used to be. Not at all. I mean, the people, it's dangerous out there. I mean, Chicago is the murder capital of the country, and more people are dying there than they did in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
From a bunch of guys that none of them have done personal protection. The other ones that were teaching it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Hey guys, we're going to go on defense now. What's that? What's that? I don't know, figure it out and teach it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
There are not a lot of people that say they've had a great time running up and down Route Irish. One of the few.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
So for those listening that don't know about Route Irish, Route Irish is most likely unanimously. Yeah. the most dangerous road in Baghdad.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What? That was stupid. It was State Department. Six times a day? Six times a day. You had to... Whoa. Six times a day on Route Irish?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Were you guys one of the crews that had the... Which one? I don't know what the answer is. Somebody dressed up like a dinosaur on the back of a truck and rode that thing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
That is like, for running six times a day, time and place predictable with a huge, Buss as a target, I mean, that is incredible.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I'm not diminishing your team, by the way, by saying that it's just luck. I'm just saying.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
We didn't ever stop. Let me say, sorry. No, go ahead. I get yelled at if I don't talk about these acronyms. So an EFP for the audience. An EFP is basically a bomb.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Well, they would even put those thermal sensors on. Yeah. So when they sensed the heat of the engine, that's what would trigger it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
My whole career was pre-kids. And so, I mean, as you know, today was my son's first day at school.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Well, I was expecting like a little, you know, I'm going to miss you, Mom and Dad. No, he's like, I don't give a shit. I'm like, I'll see you guys later. But I am... I... I missed his first open house because I interviewed Trump. And otherwise, there's no way I would have missed it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I'll tell you, man, when my wife sent me pictures of my son with his backpack on walking into that school, I was like, you know. And every time I have an experience like that, I just wonder, like, how the fuck? How did my buddies do it back in the day? How do you... Yeah, how do you rationalize that? I want to know what it's like to come home. You met your son when he was a... When he was a baby.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
My pleasure. I'm just happy you're here and I'm extremely patient.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Chris, let's take a quick break. When we come back, we will get into how you got into the OGA contract. You got it, brother. Perfect. Even though I'm excited for the new administration, there's a lot of tension in the world. Russia, Ukraine, the border, inflation. Who knows what could happen next? Me, I'm not waiting around to find out, and I don't think you should either. Look, it's simple.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Let's get back to the show. All right, Chris, we're back from the break. Yeah. And we just went through... a small portion of your career. Well, I guess not a small portion.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
But now we're getting ready to get into how you got picked up for OGA.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What's executive outcomes?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Oh, that was like the De Beers shit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
That wasn't the De Beers shit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I didn't know Greystone either. Man, dude, I got left in the dark on somebody.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Was it the agency stuff?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Let's talk about Greystone. I've had Eric on here three separate times. We have not talked about Greystone.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Well, Chris, before we get too deep into the interview, everybody gets a gift. Oh, no, man, you're all gifted people. Nothing but hospitality. Oh, man. They're gummies. That's right. Those are legal in all 50 states. Fortunately, or maybe unfortunately for you, I don't know. But they are made here in the USA. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah, so there you go. Some Vigilance League gummy bears.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Gotcha.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
For those listening, OGA stands for Other Government Agency. So we weren't calling it. We're getting into the intelligence world.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Those are hard to come by, by the way.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
It's probably better you don't.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Oh, maybe different.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Nice.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
A broom handle is a forward grip that goes on the front of an AR-15.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Oh, damn, those old school ones.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You're welcome. One last thing before we get in. I got a Patreon account. They're my top supporters. They've been here with me since the beginning. And they're the reason I'm here and you're here. So one of the things I do is I give them the opportunity to ask each guest a question. Uh-oh. And so this one is from Moose. What's up, Moose?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Okay, well. Standard issue, call sign.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I think these are different calls.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Basically, what he's talking about is there's a slot that we call the credit card. The credit card. In the head. The prefrontal cortex lobe, right? The eyes. So if you hit outside of the credit card, you're done. You're done.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What was it like for you to see the Obama administration blatantly lie about something you saw firsthand? Blame the attack on something unrelated and refuse to call it a terrorist attack? How did it feel to be on the ground at the annex and realize that help was not coming? Let's do one question first.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Man, I forgot we called it the secondary.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What... When did you realize that the OGA contract was for CIA?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
A private training area within a private training area.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
So we were at the same spot all the way in the back. Yep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
We can skip that. We'll do that. We'll do that. Okay, so give me a number because the feeling— What was it like for you to see the Obama administration blatantly lie about something you saw for the first time?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah. It was awesome. Those were good times. Yeah, yeah. Those were good times, for the most part.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Favorite place in Afghanistan or favorite place?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah, that was a good place to work. It was, it was.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Let's move into, let's move into Libya.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You ready?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, let's do it. You want to skip right to it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Well, Chris, I want to do a life story on you. Yeah. And obviously talk a lot about Benghazi and what you're doing now, but we're going to cover the full spectrum here. And so everybody starts off with an introduction.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
These are the state guys?
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I can't stand it, man. I won't take them just because everybody gets on and they just stand there and the phone comes out and they look at it. It's called a mobile walkway. They just get on it, stand. Get on the escalator, stand. Literally everybody. Everybody does.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I pulled it out.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Does it show that I'm not doing that? I should be doing that. Yes. What is regular?
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
That makes me feel good. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Man. Well, Gary, we're wrapping up the interview here. I know you've got a flight to catch. Yeah, this is amazing, man. Man, what a – I never go back and listen to my podcasts, and very few have I done that with. And I'll be listening to this probably several times just to – Just to remind myself to keep on the right track. And it's just so full of information. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And, you know, it was an honor to meet you and have you here. And I hope we remain friends.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
We definitely got plenty.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Well, I'll invite you. Built in the woods and we can fire off some weapons. Oh, yeah. We'll have you out. We'll blow some shit up. Yes. And it'll be a good time. Should be about six months, but we'll definitely keep in touch. For sure. Love to have you back. Thank you, Sean. Thank you. Appreciate you, brother. You too. Appreciate you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Is this through marketing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
How did you – I don't want to get too far in the weeds because we're just starting out. Okay, right. I know we'll get more into this, but I am – I don't want to forget this question. I mean, how the hell did you even – like, where did it – who comes up with, like – I mean, to me, this is like – You ask more questions. To me, this is psychedelics.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Who picked up the toad and rubbed it and ate the venom or smoked the venom? Who came up with that? How did you find hydrogen and its benefits?
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
If you don't mind, I'd like to divulge a little bit more into that because we don't have to. We don't want to. But when I went on your podcast, you kind of told me the story a little bit more in depth. And I just want to say it's very commendable and very noble of you how you left the insurance company. And it sounded like it came down to...
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
a single patient, or maybe not a patient, but one of the insurance customers. And so could you go into that a little bit more in depth?
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Well, I appreciate that. There's a lot of history in here from a lot of our guests and from my prior careers, and But, hey, I had a great time at your podcast, too. I mean, we were joking downstairs. I've never been talked into getting in another man's bathtub. Yeah, we became best friends that day, brother. You're like, you got to get in here. It's hydrogenated water.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
know i mean i'm gonna plug something okay and uh i don't get paid for this we we had a conversation downstairs about about plugs and yeah and all that kind of stuff and i just want to say you know what you told me i mean for anybody listening gary is one of the most authentic people i've ever met and thank you you stand behind every product and we had a long conversation about that downstairs and
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And, you know, I've been talking about this Yuca app. I think I brought it up on your podcast and I brought it up on Joe's pod, Joe Rogan's podcast. And I actually reached out to try to partner with them and they don't have the funding to do it.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
But I don't fucking care, man, because whatever they're doing, you know, it's helping re-educate the population about, you know, hey, this is all the shit that's in your food. All you have to do is download that app It's free. You scan a barcode, and the first thing it tells you is, these are all the additives. This is what it does. And then all the other health stuff is below the additives.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
But me and my wife redid our entire kitchen on that. And it's just a great way to educate the population. And I know that's your whole... That's what you do. And you do want to help people. And so I want to plug that. But... But moving on, we were just talking about vaccinations and kids, and this is something that my wife and I go round and round about. We don't know what to do.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
We don't know who to trust. Ever since COVID, I have zero, zero confidence in anything that the U.S. government tells me. nothing. In fact, it's so bad, and I know this isn't the right thing to do, but it's almost like I do the opposite. It's like, they say do this, fuck that, I'm doing this. They're obviously lying, I'm not doing it. Oh, you say that's good for me, it's probably fucking horrible.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And But with that being said, it's atrocious. Nobody really knows where to find truth in a variety of topics and genres. But at the forefront of all of this in my family, because I have two little kids, And we don't know what to do with the vaccinations. Yeah. I'll send you a good book on the good vaccine schedule.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I mean, they 100% don't have our best interests. We just went over this with the insurance companies. Well, they definitely don't. You know? So, I mean, they're the elites. They do not have our best interests.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
They tell us, you have to get these vaccines or we won't see your kids. I know. Now my kid's not in network. What the fuck am I supposed to do if he gets really sick or he breaks his arm or where am I going? Yeah. Nobody will take me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Gary Brekka, it's an honor to have you here, man. Dude, it's such an honor to be here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Wow. Real quick, just rewinding. What advice do you have for parents like me on vaccinations?
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Another question, follow-up question. A lot of people took the COVID vaccine. A lot of people regret taking the COVID vaccine. I can't even believe I'm admitting this. I took the COVID vaccine. I was worried my son was about to be born. Hospital rules. I was like, there is no way in hell I'm going to miss the birth of my son.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
So I took it because I was worried they would require it and I would miss the birth of my son. But all the other shit I've done in my life, I went into the drugs and all that stuff on your podcast. You know, I was like, well, if that didn't kill me, this isn't going to fucking kill me. Right. But, you know, and I don't feel like I have any side effects.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
So what I want to ask is, is there... Is there any reversing that? Is there anything that people can do? I've heard a lot about this. Actually, I'm going to go do plasma exchange.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And is there anything people can do to clean their blood or clean their system out with prior vaccinations? Yes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
On that note, let's take a quick break. All right, Gary, we're back from the break. Yeah. You are blowing my mind here with all this information. Let's switch gears a little bit. Okay. You brought up something about evolution at the very beginning, and we were kind of talking about faith. And so I want you to dive into a little bit about evolution. I've never covered this. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
So I would love to hear what you have to say about that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And then I did it, and I'm like, I'm sitting in there. I'm like, I can't believe I got in this fucking guy's bathtub. And sure as shit, like you told me, hey, if you have any aches, pains, it's all going to go away. And I was like, yeah, right. And I'll be damned, man. Like, I didn't notice it right away. I noticed it the next morning. Yeah, that's how it usually hurts the most.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
You're right. You're right. But we'll get into that here in a bit. I want to, everybody starts off with an introduction here. Okay. Gary Brekka, you're a human biologist, biohacker, and longevity expert with over two decades of experience in optimizing human performance and wellness.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Well, it's working. Thank you. It's working. And I just, you know, we haven't really covered this because, you know, I don't really know where to put it and I don't know how much you want to talk about it. But when we talk about, you know,
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
When we're talking friendly business, how I do things, how you do things, and when I hear you talk about you've walked away from businesses, you've turned advertising deals down, you only talk about what you believe in, whether you're being paid in or not. You just mentioned a lot of the things that you're shouting out, pretty much all of them that we've spoken about. you get nothing out of.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And I think it takes a very authentic person to do that. Thank you. We share a lot of the same values. And there's not a lot of people out there that share those same values. And it's really cool to see. I keep bringing up the Yucca thing because that's my latest thing that I'm really excited about that I would love to be in some type of thing. But I don't care because I do believe that
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
It all comes back around. And if you inject good into this world, then it's going to come back around to you some other way, somehow, some other way. And I think that's important for people to... I know it happens to me. And whether it's... One of the things that I really like doing on this podcast is being able to... I mean, this is how it started because I couldn't reach people like you or...
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
know people that have made a big name for themselves and and i've always rooted for the underdog so i'll find the guy that's you know like we were talking about tyler andrew vargas with his knife company and yeah you know to bring his story out and then display what he's doing now to give him a jet launch into so awesome into the business world i mean i get nothing out of that yeah i mean i get a friendship and uh in a in a new connection i love tyler
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Previously, you were a mortality modeling expert in the insurance industry using medical records and demographic data from 360 million lives to predict lifespans with remarkable precision. Determined to transition from predicting lifespans to extending them, you embarked on a quest to optimize biomarkers and unlock the secrets to a longer, healthier life.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I wish the best for that dude, and I can keep in touch with him. But that comes back around. And you do that too, and that's just really fucking cool to see, man.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I wish more people knew that about you.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Since this transition, you've founded the ultimate human media platform and podcast where you share insight with celebrities, athletes, and scientists.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
You're a consultant to high-profile individuals, including CEOs, professional athletes, and celebrities such as Dana White, John Jones, and Stephen A. Smith, working with a team of experts to optimize mind, body, and spirit through science-backed methods. You're also a husband, a father, and probably most important of all, a man of faith and a Christian.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And I know I'm missing a ton of other information. Those are the highlights. Those are great. And one thing we do is we have a Patreon account. They're They're our top supporters. Many of them have been with us since the beginning. And this whole thing kind of started off in my attic as a hobby. And they have enabled me to grow this into what it is today. So one of the things I offer them is...
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I give them insight into who's coming on the podcast and offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I'm sorry. And eventually I'm going to bring you back to disproving evolution. But anyway, methylfolate, guys.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Get the folic acid out of your diet.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I'm glad we covered that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
This is specifically for you. So this is from Jesse. What do you believe is the most underestimated factor in optimizing longevity and cognitive performance, and how can individuals practically...
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I have those issues. I grew up taking Adderall and Ritalin. Still took it all the way up to psychedelics and stopped it. But I do have too many windows open. Yeah. Most people do. It's never been explained to me like that. Yeah.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
No, I struggle with all these. Yeah, so do a lot of your listeners, I promise you. Oh, yeah. I mean, one, I have one of the biggest veteran audiences in the world, in the country. So we all struggle with sleep. So that was super informative.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Fascinating.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
You really do. Yeah. Even for somebody like me to understand. But I would love to hear you disprove evolution. Can we do that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Wow. I didn't know that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And no shoulder pain, no back pain, no knee pain. And I was like, okay, there's something to this. And I took, like I told you, I took pictures of all the little devices that hydrogenate the water and started Googling around and got in touch with one of the companies and really started researching it. And so,
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
It's so...
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Wow. So you're not eating Bill Gates' fake meat.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Well, that's a fascinating conversation we just had. I got a couple of questions. One was the fasting. I remember, I think we had lunch at your place for the podcast, and you were talking about, you had mentioned something about how fasting I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it sounded like fasting is great for fighting and or preventing cancer. No question. How so?
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
You know, it's interesting. I mean, I think about... Cancer scares the shit, it's probably my biggest fear. And it's like every day, somebody else got cancer, somebody died of cancer, somebody's mom got cancer, somebody's brother got, you know, it's every day. I hear it and it's running rampant amongst veterans. We're getting all these weird cancers.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And, you know, I just think about, you know, I spent 14 years in and out of war zones and breathing in, you know, I mean, Kabul, Afghanistan. It's in a big valley surrounded by mountains. How do those people keep warm? They burn tires all winter long breathing that shit. I remember spitting in the sink and my fucking spit was black.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
you know water bottles sitting out in 110 115 degree weather in iraq plastic water bottles and drinking that for 14 years and the and the jammers now it's coming out well of course government's suppressing this but of course the jammers uh jammers being the things that disrupt the the signals uh to trigger an ied it'll block any cell phone radio transmissions anything like that which could detonate an id
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Now they're saying that they're saying that potentially that is causing... That's why so many veterans are getting brain cancer because they've been running jammers sitting there while it's pulsing. You know, and... And then, you know, all the ordnance, the explosions, everything.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
That's why I was asking about, that's why I'm so interested in blood filtration and plasma exchange to see if I can get some of this heavy metals and all this shit out of my body.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Really?
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
You did.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Wow. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
All right, Gary, we're back from the break. And so I gave a bunch of blood when I was down there for your podcast. And we're going to go over that. And I'm a little nervous. You're doing fine. You going to give me a life estimation? Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
We're going to put you on liver.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
You know, it seems like the commonality behind a lot of these is manipulating Christianity.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Are there any cults that you, any newer ones that you have your eye on right now?
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Well, I'm sure this show will help out with that.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Well, Rick, we're wrapping up here, and I just want to say thank you for coming on. That was a fascinating conversation. And I got to be honest, I totally wasn't expecting you to know about the yellow deli. I cannot wait to get home and tell my wife about that. What was it, the 12? 12 tribes.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
She's going to be... We've been talking about this for seven years. And to just have you just go, the yellow deli, I was... Wow. Just goes to show you, these places, I mean, Pulaski, Tennessee is a, you and me are probably the only ones that have ever heard of it that are watching this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Very interesting. What I was getting at is Pulaski is a very, very small town. And so it's, you know, there's... I guess they just pop up anywhere.
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
It's not far from here. It's only about 45 minutes south of here. So if you want to go grab a bite. No thanks. I'm just kidding. But Rick, it was a pleasure interviewing you. I really appreciate it.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
He has a son, and you're describing this perfectly. It's almost like It's almost like there's a textbook out there or something on how to do it. They've lied to the kid. They've turned him completely against him. His family has disowned him. It's really sad to see it happen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Since 1982, you've been studying, researching, and responding to problems often posed by controversial authoritarian groups and movements. You've intervened in more than 500 deprogramming cases in various countries. You were the only deprogrammer to work with members of the Branch Davidsons prior to the Waco siege.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
That seems to be a commonality in a lot of these cultish and cult-type organizations. What is the, why do they, I mean, when they recruit somebody into a cult, I don't know the percentage, but it has to be like 99% of people realize that molesting children is pure evil. So when you get a cult, like, Jehovah's Witness or an authoritarian organization? A destructive authoritarian organization.
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
How do they manipulate somebody off the street who knows sexual abuse and exploitation of children is wrong? How do they get them to look the other way?
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
You've been called upon as an expert, resourced by law enforcement, including the BATF, FBI, and United States Justice Department. You also have been a guest lecturer at many universities, including Penn, Carnegie Mellon, and the University of Chicago. You are the executive director of the Colt Education Institute, author of the book, Colt's Inside Out, How People Get In and Can Get Out.
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
I mean, what is... So how do they... We're going to get into this a lot more, but just for a frame of reference, I mean, how, what is the, do they have an explanation on why they need to molest and exploit kids sexually inside that cult?
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Your reputation has led you to becoming a paid consultant for CBS, CBC, and Nippon of Japan Television Networks, as well as retained a technical consultant for both Miramax and Disney Film Studios. GQ Magazine identified you as America's leading cult expert, and Britain's FHM Magazine named you America's number one cult buster. You previously worked as an expert consultant
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Man. What are some of the most prevalent cults today?
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
for Ubisoft in the creation of the very popular video game Far Cry 5. Quite the intro. Thank you. Very interesting career. I am curious, what got you so interested in cults?
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
You know, when you say, I want to explore Scientology for a little bit, but when the leader of a cult says, when the torch gets passed, how do they, how's that person selected?
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
So what is the basis of Scientology?
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
I've heard a lot of rumors about people that have tried to escape this, that have been blocked away, kind of kidnapped. What do you make of this? Is that true?
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
How long could somebody be locked down?
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
What's it like for you as a deprogrammer when you see the epiphany happen?
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Back to the Scientology stuff. You had mentioned that the reeducation process can be extremely harsh. What kind of stuff are they doing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
That's, I mean, is there... Is there any proof of this? Or is it all kind of, because you keep seeing words like allegedly and reports of and stuff like that. Has there ever been a wellness check by police or a federal law enforcement agency on this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Speaking of the brainwashing stuff, how does the thought reform or brainwashing, how do they start that process? Can we just go through the whole thing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
It's sneaky. And we'll get into that. A couple of things I have to knock out before we get too into the weeds, and I can't wait to do that. But I have a subscription account on Patreon. They are our top supporters, always have been, and they're the reason I get to do this and that you get to be here as well. And so I offer them the opportunity to ask each guest a question.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Fascinating stuff. Rick, let's take a quick break. And when we come back, I want to dive into NXIVM. Oh, okay. Perfect. Well, it's that time of year again. The holiday season is officially here, and we've got an amazing holiday offer from my partners at one of the top-rated precious metal companies, Gold Co. You can get up to $15,000 in bonus silver, possibly more on qualified orders.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
And so this one came in from Brandon White, and he wants to know, how can individuals protect themselves and their loved ones from falling victim to these groups? We're going to get into that a little bit later. So I'm going to change the question just a little bit because we are going to cover this.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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So could you go into that a little bit?
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
What are a few things that, what are just a couple of quick identifiers for somebody who might think that they would be, they're being recruited by a cult? What are some quick identifiers?
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How many women are out there with his initials branded on them?
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
It's interesting to see the type of people that they're able to manipulate into their agenda and spread that type of gossip or rhetoric. But back to the cult within a cult, the sex slaves. So are these actual sex slaves or are they voluntary slaves?
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
I mean, what kind of secrets are we talking about here?
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How many women are we talking about here in this secret cult inside the cult?
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
How early does that kind of happen? Does that happen early on, or is that they ease people into it?
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What kind of thought reform techniques would he use?
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Rick Ross, welcome to the show. Nice to be here, Sean. It's a pleasure to have you.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
You know, it's interesting. All these cult leaders seem to go, from what you're saying, off the same playbook. Where... is that playbook? Where's the model from?
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
I mean, if they were in a cult and then started, would they have deprogrammed themselves?
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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What's the fastest you've seen one of these cults hit traction, growed.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
One of the gentlemen on my team, he actually edits all of the episodes, all the show stuff, grew up in the Jehovah Witness community. And he is, what he likes to say, escaped that community. He calls it a cult.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
What kind of stuff goes on in group housing?
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So I've been looking into taking a peek into secret societies and cults and kind of stuff like this. And you came across our radar, and it sounds like you are the expert in cults and kind of deprogramming people out of these things. Yes. I'm just really fascinated in the subject, and this is the first interview that I'm diving into the subject, and I'm just really happy you're here.
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And, you know, some of the stuff that he has to say about what he's been through and kind of our discussion on the way here from your hotel, I was telling you, you know, his family has totally abandoned him. He doesn't talk to – it's just there's so many things that are fascinating to me about what they go through. And you had kind of mentioned that they have kind of moved away from the cult –
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
I would imagine there's quite a bit of pushback at the beginning.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Interesting. You know, I've seen a couple of people things in surrounding areas here one of them I want I remember when I first moved to Tennessee me and my wife went to this restaurant and it was the it was in this place called Pulaski Tennessee and we went into this restaurant and it was uh I don't know any other way to describe it other than very, very hippie-like.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
And it was a lot of like falafel, vegetarian, stuff like that. But that's not what I'm getting at. What I'm getting at is the minute we entered And it was before we actually moved here. We were looking for a place to live, and we had checked this town out, and this was the only restaurant still open. And we walked in, and immediately it was just a weird vibe in there.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
I don't know, from the cult, uh... It sounds like they're not as much of a cult as they used to be. Am I correct?
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
So we started questioning the waiter and asking, I can't even remember what the conversation until, but I do, this is what I remember. He would always refer to the leaders of the cult as the authority. The authority is not gonna like this. The authority wants us to do this. And he was talking about all these different restaurants. And I'd asked him, you know, how do you know where you're going?
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He goes, well, the authority lets us know where we're going. And he would go, you know, get another drink or whatever. And I'd look at my wife like, the authority? Like, what the hell is this? What's going on in here? And we never went back. Yeah.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
To my editor, the guy that edits the show, he talks about I talk to him all the time about this stuff, and he does. He talks about when he left Jehovah's Witnesses. Is that what he said, Jehovah's Witnesses? When he left, I mean, he still says it. He's like, it's like I'm still trying to learn how to live like a normal life. He's like, I've never celebrated a birthday.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
I've never celebrated a Christmas. He's any of that stuff. And he's like, there's just so many things that I don't know that are normal in society that I have. He's still trying to figure out what's normal and abnormal. And it's, wow, wow.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
I find it very interesting how when you're talking about mothers and fathers who are giving up their kids inside these cults or when we're talking about the Yellow Deli crew and these people are working for room and board and that's it. I mean, how do you get a graduate from...
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
I mean, how do you get an anesthesiologist who's making half a million a year, maybe more, maybe millions a year, to join a cult and give all of that up for room and board? I mean, what does that conversation look like?
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Wow. Wow. When it comes back to... You know, giving up everything for peanuts. Let's talk about, I mean, what are the conversations like when a woman gives up her children in a cult? That has to be some serious program to overtake Mother Nature's instinct of these are my kids.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Can we, wow, can we go into the Waco incident a little bit? What was that cult about?
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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Would it be fair to say you're just totally indifferent to the Russia-Ukraine situation? Your only concern is you don't want Romania involved.
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I think a lot of people agree with you on that. Exactly. I want to move to your campaign. It's my understanding that your campaign did not require a lot of money, a lot of capital. You don't trust the legacy media and you took to social media. What we saw in 2020 during the Trump-Biden election is Mark Zuckerberg completely de-platformed President Trump.
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#158 Călin Georgescu - Does Romania's Coup Reveal NATO's Desperation to Push WW3?
He wasn't allowed to use any social media platforms. Jack Dorsey kicked him off of Twitter. I believe even Google also deplatformed them. Are you experiencing any deplatforming or censorship on any of your social media campaigns?
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How have they shut you down? It's my understanding you won the first round with 23% of the vote. Am I correct on that?
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#158 Călin Georgescu - Does Romania's Coup Reveal NATO's Desperation to Push WW3?
Is Romania in the midst of a coup right now?
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#158 Călin Georgescu - Does Romania's Coup Reveal NATO's Desperation to Push WW3?
How much of this coup has to do with the NATO base that they're building in Romania right now? From my understanding, this will be the biggest NATO base ever to be built in Europe. 1.5 times bigger than Ramstein Air Base. I understood also this.
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#158 Călin Georgescu - Does Romania's Coup Reveal NATO's Desperation to Push WW3?
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#158 Călin Georgescu - Does Romania's Coup Reveal NATO's Desperation to Push WW3?
Could you be a little bit more specific as to the consequences to the United States if the NATO base does go to completion?
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So this NATO base, just to be clear, the biggest NATO base ever to be built in Europe is going to be constructive to conduct a major offensive into Russia.
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#158 Călin Georgescu - Does Romania's Coup Reveal NATO's Desperation to Push WW3?
If you do win the presidency here, will you reconstruct the Romanian government? How much will you have to... How much of the government is corrupt? All.
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Yeah. When the election resumes, we have to start from the first round again?
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Well, Mr. Ceausescu, I really appreciate you being here. I can tell you're a great human that cares a lot about your people. And I just want to tell you that I wish you the best of luck. I very much appreciate the time. Thank you. Thank you.
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Mr. Colleen Georgescu, thank you for having me here today. I know we have a lot to talk about. You're one of the most talked about political things right now in Europe, and I understand the importance of it and the timeliness of it. So I just appreciate you meeting me here today. Thank you, Sean. Thank you for having me. It's my honor. Quick introduction.
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One is the last time that Romania had a present that wasn't under the influence of oligarchs in the deep state. Has there ever been?
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#158 Călin Georgescu - Does Romania's Coup Reveal NATO's Desperation to Push WW3?
When it comes to the allegations against the Russian influence on the election process right now, I just want to ask you, man to man, have you had any contact with Vladimir Putin? No. Zero. Absolutely zero. Is anybody in your campaign that you're aware of?
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You are at the center of one of the most talked about political events in Europe right now. You ran as an independent nationalist candidate who unexpectedly stirred up a political storm in Romania. The first round of voting you won with 23% of the vote. On December 4th, the US expressed concerns over Russian involvement in cyber activities influencing this election.
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in the whole world is because his russian influence seems to be the commonality so exactly he's like a meat they did the same thing against president trump and that wound up being being a hoax Even though I'm excited for the new administration, there's a lot of tension in the world. Russia, Ukraine, the border, inflation. Who knows what could happen next?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I don't mean like all together. I mean like when you jump out and you're navigating into a target. Yeah, it just depends on— What's the longest one you've been on in the air from out of the plane to landings?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
How do you know what squadron you're going to? Is it a dream sheet like coming out of Bud's?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Is it true that that they put a list of names or a photo of every guy that's screening up and they do a yes, no, yes, no?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Oh, silver. Silver. Yeah. Yeah. What was it like checking into Silver? Silver was new, right? It was newer.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Were they, I mean, describe, well, let me go back for just a second. What's it like graduating Green Team?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
So what did you... I know you're a sniper. When did that... You're on the recce team, correct?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I did not know that that was happening over there.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
It doesn't make sense to me. We just talked about your green team and how rigorous it was and how, like, you know, the level. You know, you described it like a level. The bubble gets out and you're gone. And then you deploy... And you got these guys that, I mean, they probably wouldn't even be SEALs.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
On your last mission, you were involved in a hostage rescue mission that changed your life forever. You were credited with a 900-yard sniper shot on an enemy in a mountainous region of Somalia. Incredible. You were a contractor for the Sensitive Activities Division of the Defense Threat Reduction Agency for six years.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Why do you think that was? Why what was? Why do you think that war went the way it did? I mean, it was... Fucking balls to the wall at the beginning.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And then you saw the ROEs start changing, and then it got to the point where it's like, why are we even here? You're chopping these guys' legs out, and you're essentially giving, not essentially, you are 100% giving the enemy an advantage by slapping these ROEs on us.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
That's a good answer. One more, Stephen Casey. What advice do you have for exiting military members whose skill set slash area of military service diverges widely from their passion and which may take time to develop?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I don't know, man. I got some, uh, A little bit different opinion on that than you, but... Yeah, that's okay. I just... I mean, I guess you can't really... That's from a warfighter's perspective. Yeah. It's sort of an overarching force, you know? I'm really scared what's coming, you know? I mean, because we had a handle on it. In my opinion, I don't think we can say that we won that war.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
We definitely... killed more bad guys than they did of us. But, you know, the thing is, I mean, fuck, man. We left everything there. There simply being that it's worse off now than we ever started. That's kind of what I'm getting at. The fact that it's worse off now than when we entered.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And the fact that now there are 21 different terrorist organizations all convoluting together, you know, and coming up through our fucking southern border that we're funding, we are funding. I mean, that is a, that's pretty devastating. I mean, they have... definitely strengthened in a very short amount of time. And we're gonna fucking feel it here. We are going to feel it in this country.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You know, we're being forced. Because we didn't finish the job.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
We already saw it. We saw it in Israel. We saw it at that Russian mall. We've seen it happen here before. You know, they came out with a report. Do you know who Sarah Adams is by chance?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Say again? She's the Ascari media woman?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of stuff she talked about. There's this book that came out. It's almost more like a report. I wish Scott Mann told me about it in his interview that we just released. So anybody listening, they can go back to get that. But they are predicting. Al Qaeda, terrorist networks are predicting, they're saying that the casualties that we will feel will be 50 to 60,000.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
50 to 60,000 casualties when they decide to make their move in our home front.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
It's not kooks and conspiracy theorists. We are funding Taliban. Yeah, you've proven it. We proved it on the show. 9-11 was a $500,000 budget. Government already came out after we broke the news right here in this fucking room that they accidentally...
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
accidentally sent 239 million dollars to the fucking taliban and and but we know it's more like close to a billion a year you know that's going to these ngos and being funneled back to the And we know that they're producing passports. I've talked about this a million times, but we know they're producing passports, sending them into South Central America.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
They're funneling up to the southern border.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah, yeah. But, well, Chris, let's move into your final op. Are you ready? Yeah, yeah, I'm ready. I know this is heavy for you. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
We got to hear that one first.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah. I mean, I don't know what the fuck I like to do. I did all kinds of shit. I sure as hell didn't think I was going to like sitting down talking to people for six hours because I don't like talking to people outside of the show anyways. I'm an introvert. But I mean, I think you just got to, one, One, you got to close that fucking door. That's what I think.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You have to close that door because you are leaving a community that doesn't want you to leave and that you're passionate about. Like nobody in SOF, probably even in the military, especially in combat arms, is not passionate about what they're doing and the people that they're with. And when that's over, you have to shut that door and tune that out. It's done. You're never going back.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
It's not going to happen. And if you're like me, and I'm sure you and a lot of the other gents that have been in here, I mean, that's all you had time for, man, is to pour your heart and soul into that. your unit, into war fighting, into building that camaraderie and culture and just being a fucking warrior.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And so you don't know what you like to do because that's been 100% of your dedication and mindset and everything goes into that. And so when you get out, you got to try everything, man. You got to, I mean, you just have to, have to, Keep bouncing around until you feel good. And then when you feel good, you're probably on to something. That's right.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You were responsible for assessing, planning, and executing sensitive capabilities to support Special Operation Forces operations globally. Post-military, you became the founder and CEO of Bee Free Ice Cream, where the meaning came from a discovery that true personal freedom comes only from the clarification of one's mind to realize happiness is a choice. Incredible.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And it becomes, when you find something and it becomes your new most important thing in life, other than your family, that's it. So dive in.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Damn, Chris. You know, when we spoke the first time, you had mentioned dreams. Can you talk about those dreams?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Do you think those kids have ever tried to make contact with you?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Did you know Gabe McCarty? No, I don't think so. He was at Team 10. No, I didn't know him. But I've told this before, but I'm going to tell you because... I know that motherfucker contacts me all the time. And I'll tell you one example. That's his flag up there. But, um... The red wing? Yep. Flag. He, uh... Well, that was Josh Harris' flag, but Gabe was Josh's best friend. And, uh...
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Gabe cared about three things. He became a really bad heroin addict. And when he knew things were getting super dicey, he would give me that flag, those rounds, and I told you where those came from, and his grandpa's firefighter helmet. Because that's just the only three things he fucking cared about. And he passed away several years ago, but I've had a lot of encounters with him.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And I'll tell you, the last one that I had was You know, I've never told anybody this, or I have not said this on the show, but those rounds are from the Red Wings birds that went down. Well, I'm honored for you to tell me. A ranger that was on the recovery op at the crash site gave those rounds to him and said that those were the only things that didn't burn up in the crash site.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
So he snapped off a round for every guy that died on that op and brought them home. And he just had them in a little fucking shave kit. And he would give them to me if he thought he was going to check out. I'll probably give them to a museum or something when I feel the time's right.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
But before he died, he would come over to my house all the time and tell me that he was going to start a Wounded Warriors hockey team sponsored by the NHL, completely junked out. And you've seen what that looks like. And a lot of people listening have seen what that looks like. It's not a fucking pretty sight. And, you know, I dedicated several years of my life to trying to make him better.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And had some successes, but ultimately it didn't work out, obviously. But But he would tell me, I'm going to, yeah, the Florida Panthers NHL team, they're going to sponsor me. And I'd be like, okay, Gabe, I hope you're right, man. And when they found him, when he died... the Florida Panthers NHL team decided they were going to sponsor him.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And so they went to his house to tell him that they were going to fund his team and be the sponsor. And he was, he'd overdosed and was on the floor. Fast forward, they still stood the team up. They still funded the team, his name's on all the jerseys. And I got one of the first jerseys ever made. And they won the fucking national championships the very first year.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And then I told you I went to Vienna and I did that Massoud interview.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And we were the first ones to report that. And I got super fucking paranoid for protection. And did I... And I got a little too far in front of my skis and started hiring personal protection for my family. And fucking Taliban's called me out on X several times because we're fucking with their funding. And we came home from that Vienna trip. And I had that jersey framed.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
It's the first thing you see when you walk in the door right next to the American flag. huge probably weighs 30 pounds it's been hanging there ever since i got this studio which has been about three years now and we got back and that that frame was uh it had fallen off the wall and it was on the ground it should have broke because of how heavy it is
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Not a crack in the glass, not a frame still, nothing. Perfect condition. And we walk in. This is the day after we got back from Vienna. And I'm like... Nobody here could have taken it because the whole team went to Vienna with me, except my assistant. And she wouldn't have done it. But I asked her, I said, hey, did you, what's this? And she's like, I liked that when I came in.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Nobody else was here, like I said. And so like all day that was in my mind as I'm here working. And then the team left and then everybody in the buildings left. And I was the last car in the parking lot and I'm pacing around. And I just, I just thought, cause like I said, Gabe had made contact several times before and I'm like pacing around and I'm like, fuck man.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Like what, what are you trying to tell me, man? And do I need to, like, fucking move? Do I need to hire more protection? Like, what do I need to do? What are you telling me? And I go home, and I tell my wife, Katie, I'm like, man, the weirdest fucking thing, like, that... That frame's been up there. It's been on the wall for three years. I've never taken it off. And then I come home from Vienna.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Great advice, man. Well, let's get into the interview. First, one last thing. Everybody gets a gift, even you, Chris. I guess we're going to be competitors in the sweets business.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I'm super paranoid. And the frame's down. And I feel like Gabe's trying to tell me something. And Katie goes, the hockey jersey? And I'm like, yeah. And she goes, Sean, the Florida Panthers just won the fucking Stanley Cup. And I was like, what? She's like, the Florida Panthers just won the Stanley Cup. And I was like, holy shit. And then I looked at my watch. And the date was June 28th.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah, the day. June 28th's the anniversary to Red Wings, which was a massive part of Gabe's life because those were his guys. That was his platoon. And I just fucking lost it. But that's too many coincidences to be anything else. And then I thought, that fucker isn't trying to warn me anything. He's just going, no, you fucking idiot. I'm not trying to warn you of anything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You're not that damn important. The fucking Panthers won the Stanley Cup, and it's June 28th, and I just want your attention. But there's signs, man. There's always signs of your bad attention.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I'm going to put these in some ice cream, see what happens. Hell yeah, do it. Do it. Vigilance League gummy bears, legal in all 50 states, made in the USA. You're not going to get any weird feelings if you have any.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
It's got to be harder to not believe than it is to believe. I think so. But the only reason I'm kind of bringing this up right now, man, is for me, I think life is all about love and forgiveness. Yeah. Those kids' souls are somewhere. And I could see it all over you that you want to know that you've been forgiven. And you love those kids. And I mean, you can see that you're so genuine about it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Maybe they will make contact. Maybe they're trying to. And maybe... I think they are me, you know? Maybe that's the... We're all connected. ...assignment you need to know. That they're good with it. Bud. Thanks for sharing that. Well, thank you for that. You want to take a break? Yeah, I'd be good. Let's take a break. Thank you for listening to The Sean Ryan Show.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
If you haven't already, please take a minute, head over to iTunes, and leave The Sean Ryan Show a review. We read every review that comes through, and we really appreciate the support. Thank you. Let's get back to the show. All right, Chris, we're back from the break. We're going to lighten it up a little bit. But I do, man, thank you for toughing it out with that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And just from our discussion downstairs, I'm glad that was therapeutic for you.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
But let's move into, we covered a little bit of kind of what it was like getting out, I think, at the very beginning, actually. But I did want to, you know, ask about, I mean, when did you tell your wife about that stuff?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I'll tell you offline. But Chris, I want to get into, I want to get into your story and let's do, I know we have a lot of rabbit holes to go down and I want to hit every one of them. So, but let's start at childhood. Where did you grow up?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I mean, it's, do you think you'll watch it with them?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah. Have they ever heard any of this? No.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I love these, man. It's like a legacy piece, you know? Your family will watch this for generations. Yeah. It's really... It's really cool. And it's... I don't know. It's just... I think for a lot of the guys that come in here that do a life story like that, and they get vulnerable and deep and open doors that don't... rarely get opened, I mean... I just, I'm thankful to be able to do it.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And I just, man, it's just, it's important, man. I always wonder what it's like, you know, to watch something like this as a family when it's about you. And, but, but. What are... You know, what was it like for you to get home? Because you decided to leave because of your sons. Yeah. And your wife. And so how did that reintegration go?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah. I didn't know that.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I think a big hurdle for a lot of people too, not just guys getting out as limitations. And, uh, you know, I don't believe there are limitations anymore. I used to think there were limitations and then. And then I realized when you do find your passion, there's literally no fucking limitations. The only limitations there are are the limitations that you put on yourself.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And what I notice is that most people look for the limitations as an excuse to not excel and succeed. Not even realizing that they're fucking doing it. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah, yeah. You know, and usually we go pretty in-depth on the transition, but it got so heavy there, I think we need to pull out of... pull out of the darkness, but I do want to ask you another thing. And I know you already said it and I feel the same way, but you know, with everything that you've been through and everything you've experienced and, and
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
everything that you thought the SEAL teams was going to be, you've been through the transition. We've both lost. I've lost more people than I can count to suicide, way more to suicide than I have in combat.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And, you know, with everything that you know now, and your sons are going to look at your career eventually, if they haven't already, and they're going to probably want to do something like that to impress you. What, Would you want your kids, your sons, in the SEAL teams?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And most importantly, you are a father to two sons and a husband. And I hope we talk a lot about fatherhood, too. I'd love to. So... I got a Patreon account. Those are our top supporters of the Sean Ryan Show. A lot of them have been here since the very beginning when I was doing this in my attic. And one of the things I do is I give them the opportunity to ask each guest a question.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You got into some, sounds like you got into some interesting contract work.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
What's the extraterrestrial stuff?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
What are they seeing? Anything in particular?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I don't think so either. With the AI thing, I just interviewed, do you know who Andrew Huberman is? Yeah. By chance, I just interviewed him two days ago. Oh, that's awesome. And I asked him if he knew anything. Super cool guy. And like, way cool. And no, I was asking him about Neuralink. I was like, do you know, because he's a neuroscientist, and I was like, do you know anything about Neuralink?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And so do you know that this, do you know that's going to help blind people see? That's incredible. So here's how, I'm going to totally fuck this up, and I apologize. Or layman's trying to explain it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Here's how I describe it. But so basically, whatever. They implant something to your brain. eye and it goes to a chip and then the chip goes to your brain or something and so basically it's a it's a what did he call it he said it's um oh it's a digital he gives a digital
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
signal to the chip and then the chip turns it into an electrical signal that goes to the brain and and just people are starting to be able to see like shapes and different shades of of gray yeah that it will eventually be just like what me and you are sitting here looking at yeah and um and it got into this discussion and i was like i said so he started going on and that
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
It will soon be possible that you can kind of like stimulate different sections of the brain when it comes to touch and all the senses. And so I asked him, I said, so are you telling me that it's possible to project 100% false reality into somebody's brain? And I'm not even realizing if we can experience touch, vision, taste, everything, emotion, you know, through those fucking chips.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
That could be... That could mean that we're in a simulation... Right now. Right now. And that simulation is a simulation. That's right.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
It's never ending. And...
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Do you think we have a collective consciousness? Yeah. Or is it specific to the individual?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Do you think UFOs, extraterrestrials, could be some kind of a projection of a collective consciousness?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
That's an interesting perspective I've not thought of.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah. You know, I don't know. I love thinking about this shit. You know, I mean, we could go on all day about this and it'll turn into a whole other episode. But let's get to... Let's get to... Ice cream. Where did the passion for ice cream come from?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Dude. Tim, you gotta try this shit. This is amazing. You want some?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Tim, you can't block the cameras. This is going on. This is going on. What is that? Everything bagel?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Whoa. Yeah. Dude, it tastes just like it. It's like identical.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I love these stories, man. So you literally started this out of your garage, and now I've seen pictures of your place. It looks beautiful.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
It looks like the Nicest ice cream store I've ever seen in my entire life. But it's not even a joke. I'm being serious. We'll put overlay photos up right now while we're talking. But I love these stories, man. I just love organically grown business. It's just pure entrepreneurship, creativity, and you develop something out of thin air. It's amazing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
But what do you think your hangups are going to be?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Don't forget to put Tennessee on that list.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Where are you guys going to be in, I mean, where do you see this developing into? Do you think you'll franchise or are you going to keep it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Well, there's going to be potentially millions of people listening to this or watching. Is there anything you want to throw out into the world that you might need to help accelerate your business or anything at all? I'm just curious. Yeah. You never know who's listening, man. Yeah. You never know.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Right on, man. Well, I mean, I got to hand it to you, dude. You're creative. You're branding. You're creative. You're page. Like, it's just everything. You're marketing. It's all top notch. And the ice cream is a level above all of that. So at least stuff that I've tasted. So, I mean, I think you're going to be very successful. And I hope you are. Thank you. You already are.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
But... Now it's soft enough. Well, Chris... winding up the show here, but I know you had a specific ending that you wanted to end with.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
That was awesome. Thank you. And, uh... Damn, Chris. That was, uh... That was a hell of an interview, man. Been through a lot, and... Yeah, I had a good time. Yeah, that's good. And, uh... I just gotta, like... To see you pull through all that, I mean, that's a miracle, man. And I just want to say it was an honor to interview you and keep an eye out for those signals.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And man, you had some really, really good questions come up. So I picked two of them. First one is from a fellow SOF guy, and his name's Paul. So, after almost 30 years on active duty, 20 years in SOF, I honestly don't know how I'll handle working in a civilian workforce.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I don't think much about that, but I mean, actually I do. My little brother has a stepson and he does, he's a, fucking amazing dad and uh I see him doing all that stuff you know with he's that's his biological son and I commend him all the time man you are changing that kid's life for the better and like I don't know if I could ever rise to that occasion.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
But I want to go back. What about your other sister? Is she biological?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Can you tell us three things that surprised you, maybe that you simply did not expect about your transition back into the world and how you handled those things?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
What kind of work? I know what you're talking about, but a lot of people aren't going to know what you're talking about. So what kind of work are you talking about?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
When did you realize that you didn't really know who you were?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I would say we encourage addictions.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I think that comes, look, maybe things have changed. I remember being shamed. For not drinking. Because I don't want to drink. I remember being told, if you don't drink, we're not going to trust you. I remember being handed sleeping pills and Adderall and opiates and all the shit. You know what I mean? I think that addiction is very much encouraged within the teams. It's just under the radar.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah, it's a secret code thing. And, you know, they'll blast you for those addictions and they'll punish you for those addictions.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And then they'll go and do the exact same fucking thing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
If you... Have you thought about how the culture changes?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Oh, that's great to hear. So they are making steps.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Right on. Yeah, I feel like it has to be attraction rather than promotion. Yeah. You can't be shoving it down people's throat. You just have to get solid... Solid guys that the rest look up to to just be the example without promoting it. Just be. People start following suit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And, you know, we had a conversation on the phone about a operation you were on and sounds like it was maybe, probably, definitely one of the most significant events of your life. And that really impacted. me as well, the way you described it. And I actually, I was hoping you wouldn't get pissed at me, but I brought it up in the Jordan Peterson podcast. And because it was,
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I can't even count how many different places I lived in. Yeah. Would you consider that trauma?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I never thought about the constant validation because you have to reestablish yourself every time you go to a new school.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
That's fucking crazy, man. I got the exact same shit. They called me a chink all the time. I'm like, I'm fucking Japanese, fuck off. Yeah, yeah, these words. Like, thanks, thank you for that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You know what I think, man? After interviewing, I don't know how many of us types, but having gone through it myself and talking to gents like you, I think what happens is you change as a human. And it's almost like you're under a fucking spell when you're in a unit like that.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I mean, I know you probably don't want to talk about this, but I'm going to, but the hate that comes from the community, I mean, that's not, when you're out, you know, that's not like normal, you know, to have those type of feelings. And it's just a glimpse into like how, how dark it can be in the community.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And when you, and then when you're in it with the, you know, with the depression and the anxiety and the like, just all this shit, you know what I mean? And when you come out, if you make it out, unfortunately we have to say it like that because so many of our friends are killing themselves. It's like, it's like this transition to morph back into yourself, what you were,
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Before we go into your career as an operator, I want to rewind. And you had said something, you'd said something about when you found out that your stepdad wasn't your real dad. How did you, what was that conversation like?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You know, it's a, it's a dilemma that I have not explored on the show before. And so I'm, I'm, I'm very curious and I think there's a lot of good pieces of advice that could come out of this for kids and, and stepdads, you know? And so, I mean, It sounds like you regret, you know, all the times that you kind of threw that in your dad's face. Absolutely. About not being your biological dad.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I mean, what do you have to say to kids? Because, I mean, divorce is higher than ever now. Divorce is higher. Especially in our own community. Yeah, it's so common.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
What do you have to say to kids that are in that situation?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
who you truly are, what you're supposed to be. And I think for the guys that do make it back and find their way back to themselves of what they were before they went in, it's a stronger, I don't even want to say hardened, because if you find yourself, a lot of that falls away, that hardness. And that's what I think it is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
So. Makes a lot of sense. What about, what about, and I know, you know, the roles are kind of reversed, but you know, how would your, how would your dad react when you would, when you would say those things?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
How would he react when you would say that? I mean, as a kid. How would he react? Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
That's what I'm talking about too. What I'm asking is how would your stepdad react when you would throw it in his face that he wasn't your biological father?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Of course, let's take a break. And then, uh, when we come back, we'll get into your military career. I know everybody out there has to be just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind blowing. And so I've asked her if she would contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
The only other thing that's going to be in there besides the Intel brief is if we have a new product or something like that. But like I said, it's a free CIA intelligence brief. Sign up. Link's in the description or in the comments. We'll see you in the newsletter. All right, Chris, we're back from the break. We're getting into your military career.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
9-11 just happened, and you went to the recruiter?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Who were you... This is just strange because we have a lot of similarities. And that's the only reason I made it through was validation for my dad and from my dad. But who were you seeking validation from?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You read The Warrior Elite, too.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Which is a pretty descriptive book.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Oh shit, it was an accident.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You were thinking about a family going into the SEAL teams?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Well, you were really looking ahead. I wasn't looking that far ahead. I still am. So you go to Team 10. What year is this, roughly?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Chris Fetis, welcome to the show, man. Thank you for having me. It's an honor to have you here. It's an honor to be here, really. I've been waiting a long time for this, man. A really long time. And we got a lot to cover. I think it's going to be a really heavy episode. And I think it's going to impact thousands, if not millions of lives. And so I'm really excited about this and
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Winchester means out of ammunition for the civilians listening. And could you describe what a JTAC is?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah. Let's talk about your, let's just talk about what it was like for you on your first kinetic operation.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
very real, very heavy, and I pray for you a lot. But anyways, it's gonna be a fantastic interview, and once again, man, I'm honored to have you here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
So they fucking land, open the hatch. The co-pilot gets out. This dude climbs in there with some shit stuck in his leg? And then he clips in and sits on the wing. And he sat on the wing? Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
One, something tells me that you're going to hear from those guys after this. And two, riding on the wing of an Apache out of battle, that's got to be like riding a fucking unicorn with wings out of battle. Like, what? Yeah. But, wow. How did, I'm curious, how did you deal with the loss? How did the team deal with the loss?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Wow. How long was it after that operation that you guys went back out?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Anything else significant on that deployment that you want to talk about?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
That stuff scares the hell out of me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Every night. I've not heard that one, but it makes a hell of a lot of sense. Damn. Well, Chris, where I was going with this is I just want to ask you the difference. You know, I want to ask you the difference of what it feels like to kill via communication with an Apache or a C-130 or whatever versus pulling the trigger.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You know, with the Israel stuff, it's extremely complicated, you know, but there are, I don't know if you know this, but I have some friends that were there and they, one of which I'm pretty sure we both know probably very well, but they were actually going to, flood those tunnels. Did you know about this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
They were going to pump some massive, like, ship pump. They were going to Not shit, ship, like S-H-I-P. Ship pump would suck. Yeah, that would have been better. But they were going to flood all those tunnels and drown those Hamas guys. That would be more of a... They wouldn't do it. They wouldn't do it. Why wouldn't they do it? I don't know.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Do you know how many of those bad guys that would have drowned out? I can imagine it must be like an ant farm down there. Would have been perfect targeting.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And they didn't do it. And sometimes that makes me wonder, you know, like why wouldn't you do that? Sometimes it's such a simple plan too.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
environment affects leaders decision making on what they do or not we've seen it we see it every time you know vietnam and you know touchy touchy touchy subject and uh complicated war as if any any war is not complicated but but um So you come back to the States.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
All good, all good. I thought maybe somebody would hear it and be like, He's talking about Chris. But everybody starts with an introduction. Chris Fetish, you're a former Navy SEAL and member of SEAL Team Six, officially known as Naval Special Warfare Development Group, NSWDG. You were deployed around the world to fight America's enemies and defend freedom.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
So you guys were together for the duration of your career?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Going on 13 years. Nice. Congrats. Congratulations. Thank you. Not too many people make it out of the teams without a divorce. It's hard. You know, it's hard.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Did you have kids when you were in the teams, or did you wait till after?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah. So they lived through some of it too.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
How long did you guys date before you got married?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Nice. Well, we haven't got to it yet, but I'm sure you and your wife have been through a whole slew of downward spirals and all the things that come with being in the teams. But you made it. And so I want to ask you, what do you think the secret to a successful marriage is?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Great advice. Well, Chris, we'll take a break. When we come back, we'll get into your time at Dev Group. All right. Perfect. Exclusive merch and more. Join us and become a patron starting at just $5 a month by visiting patreon.com slash vigilance elite. That's patreon.com slash vigilance elite. All right, Chris, we're back from the break.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Are you seeing a lot of Chinese... coming into Mexico and kind of setting up shop?
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
How long has this shit been going on with China?
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
When was that, 10 years ago?
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
15 years?
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Is it weird? How do I phrase this? Are you seeing more and more Chinese people? Is it becoming like a common thing to see?
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Wow.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Tons.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
It makes perfect sense. Generationally. And the thing with China is they're fucking extremely effective. No way. At whatever they do. No way.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Yeah. One being they don't fucking play by rules either.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
And China will come in and they'll open a whorehouse immediately to start gathering intelligence because- People are going to go to the fucking whorehouse. They're going to fuck a Chinese hooker. The hooker is going to milk them for information. The information gets to where it needs to go. It happens like that.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Everybody's taking advantage of it.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Yeah.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
How do you cope with all the shit that you've seen? We talked about some of the stuff you've seen. We've talked about the disposing of bodies and some of the gruesome stuff that you've seen the cartel do down there. We covered the fact that you've gone on 2,700 fucking hits.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Well, you know, nine years.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
It helps get through the misery when you're in the middle of it, too.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
And they had 15 fucking vehicles.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
It worked. It fucking worked. It works when you're in. It works when you're in it. And it makes you effective. But when you're off the bus. When you're out, you're fucked.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Why do you think there were no shots fired?
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Damn.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
It fucking changes you.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
How long did it take for you to realize your mom was fucking right on the money?
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Yeah. I know that feeling. Sorry to hear that, but you know, sounds like she was looking out for you, man. Yeah. You know, but, and sounds like she still is after she passed.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
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Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Less than a year.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Damn.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Yeah. So kind of wrapping up your career, you talk about kind of being recruited by the cartel. And I kind of wanted to go a little deeper into that. And I would imagine that you were recruited several times or had friends, you had already said that you had friends that had been recruited out of the police or maybe the military and into the cartel.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
How long into your career, into your law enforcement career in Tijuana did it take for it to become real? Where you're like, this isn't a fucking game.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
I know everybody out there has to be just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source. It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind blowing. And so I've asked her if she would, contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
It sounds like China's taken a major interest in the cartels in Mexico. And I've operated around China overseas several times. And those motherfuckers are just as ruthless, if not more, than some of the cartels. Why is China's interest in Mexico becoming so strong?
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Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
No shit.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
That's pretty incredible. That's pretty incredible. Yeah, I saw your remark in the Hegseth hearing. How did that go again?
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
It'll be great to see somebody that doesn't just space out in the middle of a press conference and not know where the hell they are. That helps. A lot of people are looking forward to that.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, we're going to dive into this, but as of right now, just looked it up, we got 25 dead. It sounds like from the fire, about 40,000 acres have been burned to the ground. Thousands and thousands of structures gone. And, you know, it sounds like there was a lot of incompetence. Sounds like we saved a lot of fish and snails, but not a lot of people.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
And, you know, I mean, where are all these people going to go? I mean, like you said, this is one of the largest cities in America. Yeah. Where are they going to go?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Well... You know, Trump called this actually on Joe Rogan's podcast. He talked, what was the fish? The smelt. The smelt fish. Said that they weren't pulling water from there because they wanted to save the smelt fish. I mean, a lot of incompetencies. We'll get into those. But what were your initial thoughts when you saw the fire?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
A 40% pay cut? Yeah. When did that happen?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Oh, that's amazing. But quick introduction here. So Senator Tim Sheehy, U.S. Senator from Montana and former Navy SEAL officer, like I said, second ever special operations operator to enter the Senate, completed numerous deployments around the world. You're a family man. Your wife, Carmen, is a former U.S. Marine officer.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
You both are raising four children, an entrepreneur, founder and former CEO of Bridger Aerospace and Ascent Vision Technologies. and owner and ranch hand at Little Belt Cattle Company. And most importantly for what we're going to talk about, because we'll be talking about the LA wildfires, you're an aviator and water bomber pilot.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
How many people have been, do you have any idea how many people are now displaced?
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
How did this, you know, me and you had a, we had a phone conversation a couple days ago when we put the interview together, the timeline, Herman. I asked you, How did this start? Could this have been, you know, we talk a lot about terrorism on the show. Could it be, could it be terrorism? I mean, you said yourself, go ahead, you know, what Al Qaeda said.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So we'll talk about, you know, your expertise and what you know about this disaster that's going on in California right now. But before we move into the nitty-gritty stuff, I've got a Patreon. Patreon's our subscription account. They've been with us since the beginning. They're our top supporters. And so one thing I offer them is I offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So, I mean, do we, you know, kind of back to the, thank you for that, that explains a lot on how these spread and that's, I mean, two acres a second, that's moving. You know,
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Yeah, you know, I mean, the same thing's kind of happening on the East Coast, especially in Florida with hurricanes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
And so this is from Amit Shamgar. What do you believe is the most pressing moral challenge facing our society today, and how do you plan to address it through your legislative work?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
And that's not done going up.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Some of them can't even get insured, depending on where the flood zones are.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Yeah, so, I mean, is it kind of moving into insurance? I wanted to go back. I mean, I do believe there is. We'll hit on the insurance in a minute, but I believe there is proof.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
I just got camped. So they put a... A fish or lettuce or the spotted owl or whatever the hell it was, they put that above human life. And I think – And that's a federal law. That's not a California law.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Tim Sheehy, welcome to the show. Thanks, Sean. Good to be here. It's good to have you. This is the latest interview I've ever done here at the Midnight Hour, but I really appreciate you coming down. I know you're a busy guy, and especially, and congratulations on your Senate.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
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Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Is that true that there was no water?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So who's... You know, at the very beginning of this interview, we talked about holding government accountable.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So for the L.A. wildfires, who needs to be held accountable? Is it Gavin Newsom? Is it – there's a lot of talk about the three – it sounds like the three top – people in charge of the fire departments in LA or DEI types. I mean, who needs to be held accountable there? Or is it the federal government? All of the above.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
I don't know. I mean, shit, Gavin Newsom got recalled and they put him right back in there. Yes. But, you know, I mean, I don't know why this is. I don't, maybe they, I don't, I just, I can't wrap my head around it. California just doesn't make any damn sense to me. But, I mean, so let's talk about the... But accountability, it's important.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
I think what I'm kind of leaning towards is let's just go down the chain of command here, or let's go down the chain. Who at the federal government needs to be held accountable? How can... All these places that are having these wildfires, Hawaii, Texas, New Jersey, California, Washington, Oregon, how do they hold the federal government accountable and who and why? Why? Yep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So there needs to be some type of an appointee. Because how it works... In the new administration, some kind of director of wildfire.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So there needs to be some type of a committee or an appointee that is created to... 100%.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So how do, I mean, how do, how do we start this? I mean, you know, you just started the conversation and, you know, hopefully it spreads, but I mean, how, how does this, how does this, I mean, how, how would that be implemented? Is that, would that be implemented by the president? Would that be implemented by Congress and then going to the Senate? I mean.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So we need a committee or an appointee with bilateral communication from all these other organizations and agencies. Yeah. Let's move to the state level, California. Governor Newsom, is he held accountable? Does he need to be held accountable? Does he have, I mean, you know, we talk about, you know, Why does this guy keep getting voted in? I mean, I think we need to educate on the discrepancies.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Yes. If there are any that he needs to be held accountable for.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
And they didn't. What about the reservoirs? Reservoirs. Could Gavin Newsom have overridden that and said, no, pull from that reservoir right there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Should he have allocated more funds to...
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
How about the, you know, we talked about arson earlier. Had there been, I mean, California, I believe, was, they were a big defund the police state, correct? And so had there been more police, maybe they could have, you know, mitigated some of the arson, some of the stuff that we saw going on. People posting videos on X. Do you think that had anything to do with any of this as well?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Yeah, you brought up holding the government accountable, and we try to do that here as much as we possibly can. And sometimes we get a little bit of success. Most of the time it falls on deaf ears. But when I ask my audience to hold the government accountable, I'll give you an example. They always want to know, how do we do that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
They cut their legs right out from out there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Anything else at the state level that could have gone different?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Let's move to the local level. Fire chiefs would What do we need to hold them accountable for?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Yeah, yeah. Do you see, I mean, do you see any similarities between the L.A. fires and what happened in Maui? Absolutely.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
And a lot of people, we've lost, you know, it's no secret, America's lost a lot of confidence in the voting system. And, you know, I'll give you an example. You know about the Taliban funding stuff. Oh, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
What about, you know, the – You know, a little bit different switching gears here, but we're seeing a lot of, I mean, from where I think the rent, you know, we're kind of moving into relief here. And we're seeing a lot of price gouging with rents in California. We have thousands and thousands of people that are now displaced. Their homes have burned to the ground.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
And of course, now you see rent prices going up. People can't afford to rent anything now. I mean, how do we mitigate that?
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
These people are freezing to death right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
What about, you know, just natural disaster relief? Or just... any disaster relief. I mean, you know, we see billions and billions of dollars going to Ukraine, going to Israel. What about our people? You know, I mean, like I said, People are freezing to death in North Carolina that lost their homes in that hurricane. Maui, still a disaster. Now L.A., a disaster.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
I mean, we're just, it just, I mean, I think everybody sees it. They see all of our money, what appears to be all of our money, getting shipped. The Taliban, you know, we're funding the Taliban upwards of a billion dollars a year.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
ukraine like i said all these different we're just we're exporting all of our money overseas to help problems that maybe we should or should not be involved in but i mean why are we not prioritizing american people and in rebuilding these cities and Getting these people out of the freezing cold that lost their home six months ago. How do we fix that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Everybody in the country is frustrated about that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
It's just good for everything. It creates business. It creates jobs. It's just pouring money back into our own economy to rebuild what was destroyed. And I just cannot wrap my head, rather than just shipping it off and not seeing it ever again, You know, how does that conversation start? Where does it start?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Are you going to be bringing some of this stuff up in the Senate?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Man, that's amazing to hear. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
But it took a long time to get there. It took a long time. Tim Burchett out of Knoxville knocked it out of the park. He did not give up. It was bill after bill after bill that he wrote up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
And that was before the L.A. fires. Good for you. Good for you. It would be great to see some proactivity in this country instead of reactivity. I mean, we're killing ourselves here. We're killing ourselves here. And, you know, it's horrible. I hate... I just hate seeing all these people displaced and people dying. And it doesn't seem like much, if any, relief is going to them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
And... Well, Senator, did we miss anything? Is there anything else you want to cover?
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
and um but we had a petition and that petition went up to i think last time i checked it's at like 400 000 signatures and uh we couldn't get congressman mccall to do anything and um you know you would think at the time i think i brought it up and when i interviewed president trump you know it was 300 and something thousand back then but i mean it's just people get so frustrated because they don't they don't really know
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
But for you, Will, I know we all have big aspirations for you. So, Senator Sheehy, thanks for coming on. And I hope to see you again and keep up the good fight. God bless. Let's get her done.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
They don't really know how to hold the government accountable. And so I would love to hear your suggestions on what can people do. Does it actually do anything when people write a congressman's office or a senator's office and they get hundreds, maybe thousands of letters demanding change?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So it's an honor to do it. Yeah. A lot of people are stepping up. It's good to see. And then, you know, our conversation downstairs. So you're only the second ever Special Operations veteran to enter into the Senate.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Good point. You know, I was going to ask you too, you know, I mean, at what level do you think people should get involved? Should it be at the city, local level, state level, federal level? I mean, it seems to me like if a lot more people would have gotten involved in LA, we probably wouldn't be seeing the mess that we're seeing right now. But I would love to hear your thoughts on that as well.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You quit right before they talked about the 10 person sex parties.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Oh, yeah. I was going to compare it to special ops. That guy doesn't know shit. I know, you know, that's kind of how.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
A lot of people are. I mean, it's crazy. It's like everything you knew is just flipped upside down.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I got a really good friend of mine that's deployed in. overseas right now. Not according to Kamala Harris. Yeah, he's sniping bad guys over in Africa.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I'm sure that's what's going on. It could be that. I don't think it's really immoral. It's not immoral. It's just a rally. Everybody wants their rally to be full. I mean, you know, it's just, I don't. It's a facade, man. Yeah. It's just a facade.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, this has been going on for a long time, though. You know, sometimes a Kung Pao chicken is a chicken.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I just want to hear how they're going to accomplish all this stuff.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I think it's crazy they didn't cover it. I mean, it barely got covered.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Have you looked into the BlackRock commercial stuff at all?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
What do you think – I mean, have you thought about who's behind all these assassination attempts? Do you think they're lone wolves or –
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, I don't think they're going to be around that much longer. I feel like that the media will die with the baby boomer generation.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Was it nice for you to come off YouTube? Did you enjoy that when it first happened?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
That's what I meant. I meant with like the censorship stuff. I was wondering, you know. Want to hear something interesting? Yeah.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You know what really bothers me is— We both put a lot into this, you know? And what bothers me, it's like, just tell me what you want me to take out. What is it?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Illegal stuff. Even language. I mean- There's three-year-olds out watching. I got a three-year-old kid. He's watching YouTube.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
So I get it when they mark my shit with 18 plus, but they won't tell me. I can't correct the fucking problem if you don't tell me what it is. Right. I mean, they just don't want to abide by... They don't want to box themselves in and not be able to censor somebody.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, if you can control what comes out of people's mouths and you can control what they think.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You know, it doesn't seem like everything's so compartmentalized in government and especially at that kind of classified level.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It's scary, man. I mean, I don't know. I think about it all the time, obviously. Yeah. I mean, it's industry. So it just – I don't know. I hope X turns out to be the new thing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, I hope, you know, I just hope this shit starts to turn around. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yes. He was like, you don't have to wear a mask. Then it was wear two. Then it was wear doubles. Put two face diapers on.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I know. It was, I mean, it's like, what are you, there's nothing they won't do.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Do you think they're cowards or do you think they just they're just lazy and they like being told what to do?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Whatever, security clearance level. I mean, there's... Whatever, I didn't get that high up, but... I've not seen like a database where you can just look anything up like, oh, shit, who killed up JFK?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You know, I went down to the border about, I think it was about two years ago-ish, maybe a little longer. And I went down with Ed Calderon. I love Ed. Yeah, what a great guy, right?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, well, that's where I found him. So thank you. But so, no, I went down to TJ with him. And this was like before it really, really hit the news cycle. And we walked into a migrant camp. There's probably a couple thousand migrants there. And so I yanked one of them out and interviewed him and, you know, used Ed to help translate.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And I mean, the guy's been sitting there for like I think he was there with his wife and kids for like two years. And I was like, why don't you just like go across, dude? It's I mean, it's an honest question. Like, why don't you just go across? He said he wanted to do it the right way. Wow. You know, he's like now he's like, I just want to do it the right way. Oh, my God.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
He's running around with this little battery pack charging cell phones for 50 cents. You know, and I'm like, I'm just like, fuck it. Hey, man. Like, why don't like why don't they just. Because nobody's anti-immigration. No. Not that I know of. No, we're anti-terrorists sneaking in. Yeah.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Why don't you just unfuck the immigration process and maybe we can get some more people in here quicker legally if you do that. And then we actually know who's coming in and we have documentation of who they are.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Good point. Good point. I mean, have you done any digging on who's coming across there? Yeah. I talked to Dr. Phil about it.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It's fucking scary, man. I've been diving into the border shit for quite a while. And ever since this Afghanistan withdrawal, that was like a big... I mean, that was just fucking horrible.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Dude, do you know who Tyler Andrew Vargas is? No. That's the one Marine that survived that big, that suicide bombing at Abbey Gate. Abbey Gate was, it killed 13 Marines. Yeah. And so I called him. Well, everybody wanted him to come on the show. And I was like, I'm never going to get this fucking guy. Like, all the media, everybody wants him. And, um, but I was like, all right, fine.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I'll reach out. So hit him on, hit him on the, on the gram and, uh, message right back. And he got in and he's like, man, he's like, I'm so glad that you reached out to me. He's like, I was literally just praying with my fiance that you would reach out. Cause he had just did an ABC good morning, America interview interviewed for seven hours.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
They released five seconds of that interview because it made the administration look so fucking bad. They wouldn't air it. So I got him on, kept getting dinged by YouTube. They didn't like the real footage, which was actually from his cell phone that we put. We do previews and shit. But... man, like to have like his, you know, testimony about what happened that day.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And, and, uh, and then the, the care that afterwards, which was a fucking trocious, you know, guy, I watched this guy, my studios on the second story. And, um, I'd watch a 23-year-old kid hobble up those fucking stairs with one leg, one arm, all kinds of shit going on in his intestine. I mean, I was like, man, what the fuck, man? This didn't even have to happen. They had the guy.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
They had the fucking guy in the sights. They could have killed him. And, you know, nobody... Nobody gave him permission. I just, you know, maybe they, I mean, I can't backseat quarterback it, but maybe they shouldn't have asked, just eliminated him. Jesus Christ. But I mean, he's talking about, you know, before we got into the actual incident, he was talking about,
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You know, like moms trying to throw their babies over the wall and getting caught up in razor wire and just seeing a fucking baby dangle there by the leg. Yeah. You know, it's... And there's like no... you know, there's no repercussions for how that went down. The media just wants to fucking cover it up.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so, so I, I started digging deep and, uh, I teamed up with the former, uh, CA targeter, Sarah Adams, and then a really good friend of mine, Scott man. And we went over to Vienna, uh, to interview this guy, Ahmad Masood, who's the leader, the commander of the Northern Alliance out there. That's like the resistance it's kind of fighting the Taliban.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You know, the Taliban pretty much took over government in Afghanistan. I saw the parade. Yeah. With all our shit that we left there. Crazy. Yeah, man. So we got a bunch of intel from Massoud and, you know, like still kind of looping all the way back around to the southern border. I mean, so once Taliban took control of all of our shit, I mean, this could go on for a while, but...
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
So now what they're doing is they have the passport office over there just making legitimate passports to – now there's 21 terrorist organizations over there training. Hansa Bin Laden, who we were told was killed, is actually fucking alive. And he's marrying into all these other terrorist networks. So he married Mullah Omar's daughter. He married into all these different terrorist networks.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so these guys used to be like competitors, kind of, just like the UFO guys. They all hate each other, but they all have the one common theme, like disclosure. These guys, the one common thing is, let's go take over the Western world. So he is basically Hansa bin Laden, is, is married into all these terrorist organizations.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Now they all have one common goal to come over to, you know, the Western world and, and ruin our way of life. And so what they're doing is they're funneling as many of these terrorists into the passport office, creating them legitimate, real passports. And then they sprinkle them, they get them flights into all over South Central America, and then they funnel them up. Um,
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
through the Darien gap into the, into the U S. And so, you know, there's, there is, there is zero, I don't give a fuck what the FBI or any of these people are saying. They have, there is zero way to track how many of these fuckers have come in to the U S. And so, you know, now what we're going to see is like, October 7th style attacks like we just saw in Israel and in the mall in Russia.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And everybody's like, oh, you know, there's well, do you think this is by design?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Absolutely, I think it's by design. I mean, they basically told Border Patrol, stand down. Like, do not do your fucking job. We're going to blast you. I mean, remember the guy on the horse that they said was whipping people and it wound up being like the reins of the horse? Yeah. Yeah, I think it's I think it's by design, you know, from from the government.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
But I don't I think that there look, I think that the government is is is more incompetent than it's ever been before. And I think they have one common goal and that I think the goal is voting. You know, they want them to vote. But I don't think that they I don't think they're competent enough to realize the the death and destruction and the the other repercussions that we're going to face.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
By keeping that border open, you know, because because they don't have anybody, you know, that did. They don't have anybody with any experience that's – they don't have any solid intelligence stuff going on that's telling them, like, hey, this is what's going to happen. It's all agenda-driven. Jesus Christ. Does that make sense?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, shit, though. I mean, unrest, I mean – They got really good at unrest, you know what I mean, in 2020, right? All through or even before 2020, up to that election. So I don't think they need to import terrorism in cartels.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, and then people, I mean, do you ever think about why nothing's happened yet? Like China. Have you looked into the power grid at all?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. Well, I mean, China, you know, we have those we have we have you know, we get those big trans. Everything's imported from China and we have these huge, you know, transformers. You can tell me shut up if you already know all the shit. But all of those transformers are imported from China. And they're not checked. They don't even fucking check them for malware or Trojan horses or anything.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
on top of that so then then doe department of energy actually investigated one because somebody somebody was it got to dc that whatever they decided to look into it and they wouldn't fucking release the results they wouldn't fucking release the results So, you know, they're in our water treatment plants. They're in our power grid.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I've been talking about this shit for years, and then— Cell phone towers. Cell phone towers. And then FBI Director Chris Wray comes out and says, oh, yeah, turns out our grid's really vulnerable. China's in there. And they're also in our treatment plants, which means they can fucking poison us.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You seen those piles? I remember pulling the fucking masks out, you know. I didn't wear them very long, but I fell for it for about 30 days. Did you? And then I was like, this is fucking bullshit. But, yeah, you pull the mask out, and I live out in the woods, so I didn't, you know. But, yeah, made in China. I'm like, wait, didn't the thing come from there? They're making money hand over fees.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean I just – I don't feel like – I feel like technology is advancing. It's such a rapid pace. I mean, I feel like AI and robots will take over everything.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. That would be good. No, I'm with you. I guess what I'm saying is I don't see the union worker. I don't see where their place really fits in anymore. There's going to be a lot less of them, that's for sure.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, I think that would be great. I mean – I probably shouldn't be talking about my direction that I'm going to go, but fuck it, whatever. That's what I want to do. I want to start going and talking to all these foreign dignitaries and getting a different perspective on what we're doing. I don't think we're the good guys anymore.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I don't agree with a lot of the shit that I was involved in as a SEAL or a CIA contractor. I mean, like BRICS. Are you familiar with BRICS? No. Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. Don't quote me on this. I think they have 22 countries now. It's kind of like... It's kind of like a counter to NATO.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It's all these countries that are tired of us, tired of the tariffs, tired of the weaponization of the U.S. dollar. And so basically what they're trying to do is throw the U.S. currency off the world stage and pull it and use Chinese yen. Whoa. And, you know, I mean, that would destroy us if all trade went to...
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
If the world reserve currency went to the Chinese yuan, that would destroy our economy. And so – but they're gaining a lot of traction on this. And so, yeah, I would love to go to any one of these 22 countries and talk to them and just ask, like – Why are you doing this? Right. Why are you doing this? Because that gives – nobody's fucking talking about this shit.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, there's no journalists talking about this. You could look up Bricks on X. There's a page. It's pretty – I don't know if it's like an official one, but – But they're always posting, like, updates about it and what's going on.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so I think it would be really important for somebody to go around and start talking to, you know, getting another perspective rather than what, you know, Fox and CNN have to say about it.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Really? Yeah. I mean, that's I mean, I used to get like really upset when people would, you know, talk about, you know, the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan and and. when I was still in, you know, and I got so pissed off. I've moved out of the fucking country. And I was like, I don't even want to listen to this shit anymore.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
But after diving in and looking at the policies that came out and kind of, you know, it's kind of like when it's just reflecting on some of the policy decisions and stuff that didn't really make sense at the time when I was in that now I look back and I'm like, man, what the, like, I didn't have time to think about it then. Cause it was okay. Go on the next stop, go on the next mission, whatever.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Right. And, but now like looking back through the podcast and talking to, you know, my podcast started with all my former colleagues and, and, and mill and agency. Nobody thinks we should have been there, especially Iraq. Nobody thinks we should have been there. Um, It's, and I just keep going down the rabbit hole and man, I just, I don't,
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
diving into the military-industrial complex, all the lies that the government has been telling us, all the unreleased classified shit. It's overwhelming, and it's created 100% complete distrust in government. I mean, the Dick Cheney stuff. I mean, you know about Dick Cheney, Halliburton. Yeah. Have you looked into that at all?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I don't think people understand like how – Crazy that is. How big... I mean, it was the fucking logistics company for two wars. That's like... That's everything, Joe. That's... They're delivering your mail. They're building your barracks. They're cooking your food. They're in charge of garbage. They're in charge of fuel. They're everything. Everything.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Everything that's logistical over there is Halliburton, KBR.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
In both countries. And I mean... You know, I think people think Afghanistan like, oh, man, you're probably on a tent or sleeping on the side of a mountain or something. No, man, there's fucking Burger King, KFC, Pizza Hut, Thai restaurants. I mean, that's all. That's all logistics. I mean, it's it's fucking it's it's cities that we built over there. And it all was built by Halliburton. Wow.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Who is, you know, the vice president. The CEO's vice president in the fucking country. Like, what? Are you serious?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, there's no, nobody died. It's like nobody actually has an opinion anymore. They're just told, you know, they're just told, hey, this is what we're going with for the next two hours. Right.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Wow. I didn't know that. Yeah. Have you messed around with the, have you heard of the Yuka app? No. Dude, you got to get the Yuka app. What is it? So you basically scan anything, like food related. It's Y-U-K-A? I think it's Y-U-C-A. There it is. Nice. There it is. Y-U-K-A.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. That's what I was saying about the baby boomer generation. I mean, I think that the media will die. If things continue just the way they are and the censorship doesn't get too bad, I think the media is done when the baby boomers.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, I mean, the guy's so wealthy, I don't think he really cares about a good investment. Also, he's so old. He just wants a megaphone.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I wonder if they're... buying their place outside of the rules. Like, hey, I donated your thing. I don't have to live by these fucking rules.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
There it is. See, like honey nut sugar. So it'll tell you the additives in there.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
That's what I – sometimes I think it's all – it is a complete facade.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And it'll tell you all the chemicals and what the chemicals do to you.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
That's, you know... Yeah, he shaved... What did he shave? Like 80% of the staff off Twitter? Oh, yeah. When he got it?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It's that control what they say, control what they think.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, I don't... I mean, it's a tough... I mean, what are we going to do, though? I mean, China, you know, Xi Jinping has come out and said that he believes that the winner to the race of AI will achieve global domination. So what do you do? Do you try to control it? Is... So is Americans, do you try to control it or do you go, fuck it, we got to do it, man. We got to go.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
We got to go or China is going to pass this up, which they probably already have.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Let them fly spy balloons, you know, traverse the entire United States.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You know, it bothers me, though. Maybe they're not ahead of us, but, I mean, you know, the energy that they're building coal mines every day to power all this stuff. And we're going on about should we use fossil fuels or not. Yeah. And, you know, we just talked about how weak our grid is. So if we don't beef up the grid and start going, you know, nuclear.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, there's literally no – I mean I look into this all the time. There's no infrastructure going in to correct the problem because the problem is so big that nobody wants to tackle it.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Didn't NVIDIA start producing all their chips in the ocean? They're buying these massive ships. Really? You'd have to look that up.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It was one of those articles I started reading, and I was like, I don't understand any of this shit.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Well, the drone game, too. I mean, that's the future of warfare, right, is all these drone swarms. And DJI, you know, that's a Chinese company. And this is a... This is going to be a big fucking problem when we realize, hey, the next one isn't going to be guys in caves anymore. Right.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, yeah. It's, uh... I mean, I don't... I hope it comes back to the U.S., but I would just... I would like to see us just start getting stuff from somebody other than China. That would be nice. That would be a great start.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Well, I mean, you have to just think, I mean, it's Chinese. From what I understand, it's Chinese law that anything, any business that is taking that is being conducted within China. If it helps – if the technology helps the military or could potentially help the military, then China – then CCP has access.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And that's end of story. So anything, any fucking thing over there that's being developed or manufactured – It's – all of that technology is in their hands. Yeah. It just is.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. They suck these American companies in with getting around the red tape and – And then it's in the cheap labor, cheap prices, and then once it's going, I mean, they control it. Do you want this money train to end right now? Because you're not in America, buddy.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. I mean, do you – you've dove into this more than anybody else I know. I mean, what do you think this – what do you think it all is?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it. Crazy story. Kind of like that. Do you know who is that? Chris Bledsoe?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Have you heard of him? What's that one? Chris Bledsoe, he's a guy that had that experience as well. You've not heard of Chris Bledsoe? Maybe, I haven't or forgot. It's possible. Yeah, it's kind of the same thing. His memory's kind of gone, and that's what it sounds like.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what all this is, man. I just, you know, I try to dive into it on the podcast and have talked to, you know, a handful of guys and
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, he kind of like mixes it with biblical stuff, right? That's kind of I don't know. That's what I lean towards with all this stuff, to be honest with you, is maybe I think there's some consciousness aspect. I think there's I think there's I think it is the afterlife.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, yeah. Have you ever looked into, because I think I kind of group all this stuff in together, but have you looked into the remote viewing stuff?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Does it bother you if there's some type... I don't know, some type of a new... Does it bother you if it's not FDA approved at all, if it's new? Like nobody's looked into it?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Happens all the time, man. That's weird. I mean, what they say, we use 10 percent of our brain.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
No. Dude, you have to talk to him. Who's he? He is remote viewer number one for the U.S. But he's not like kooky or anything like that at all. Really? No. How do you not be kooky in your remote viewer? Dude, you just have a conversation with him. He's there. Okay. No weird vibes, not from my end anyways. But...
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
But the way he, you know, I asked him, I'm like, well, how do you, like, how does it, how did it happen? Do you think, does everybody have this? Or, you know, I was just pinging him with questions. And he said he thinks we all have had it since the beginning. And that, I mean, he was basically saying, if you look at how animals communicate, they kind of communicate telepathically, right?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And he was talking about caveman times. He used to point at shit and grunt and nod heads and look at things, and everybody would know what you're thinking about. And he goes, and then we started traveling in groups, and then language was kind of born. Yeah.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And he goes, language actually slowed down our initial form of communication, which was, you know, it wasn't maybe as descriptive, but it was just as deliberate as speaking a language. And then you introduced technology, and basically what he was kind of saying is, you know, that our brains have been kind of dubbed down from, you know, thousands and thousands of years of,
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
technology coming out and language and all these other things and i don't know lose the ability to exactly we we we don't i mean you hear it all the time you don't use it you lose it right you know and and so basically what he's saying is we're losing our instincts i mean that and that makes sense if you don't use it i mean isn't that what the appendix is in the isn't the appendix an organ that we no longer need anymore because we cook food
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. I mean, you know, there's all kinds of I mean, if you've heard of people, if you heard of people kind of. How do I describe this? Me and my wife were just having this conversation the other day. If you heard of people that kind of they start preparing for their death. but they're not realizing they're preparing for their death.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It's like an intuition that they're unaware that they're going to die, and so they start preparing everything for their departure and not even realizing that they're going to pass.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, I think that's just another example of – I think that we have – lost a lot of intuitions and we don't really know how to go back and exercise them. That's kind of what I think.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yep. You know, my – this person that works for me turned me on to this podcast the other day, and it was talking about how – this is unverified, but it was still a fascinating conversation. They were talking about how in – I can't remember the amount of years, but humans will begin to lose their peripheral vision because they're looking at a phone so much. Whoa. That we're evolving.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I guess you could, I don't know if I would call that evolving. Yeah, devolving. Wow.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, it's like, shit, go anywhere. That's what everybody's doing.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. That's, I mean, if you're up for 12 hours, it's 25% of the day.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It wasn't a thousand years, man. It was like, I mean, I, it was way, it was within our lifetime.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It's, it's, uh, this stuff all just scares the hell out of me. I mean, I think psychedelics plays a role in all this, you know, in, in, in accessing, you know, other information and,
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Dude, do you want to hear the best story I've ever heard from that? So I got one of my best friends, former Green Beret, worked with him at the agency for a long time. He was blown up, survived like the worst fucking car bomb I've ever seen. Like got up, walked away, dude's head's like right next to the car. Then gets out.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I don't want to mention his name because I'm going to bring up some symptoms. But then he got fucking shot in the head by a 38 special round in the middle of the road and survived it. And I've stayed with him through this whole process. Anyways, couldn't walk without a cane. Was bedridden five, six days out of every week. Hadn't had sex with his wife in over two fucking years.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Couldn't go outside without sunglasses on because of the light sensitivity. And I'd been telling him, hey, you need to, dude, you have to go down and like do this Ibogaine thing. Nothing else is working. I think this shit's going to change. I wasn't even aware of all this stuff. I knew about the bedridden stuff and But he was hiding a lot of that shit from me, and his wife got and called me.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so I got him piped in to this program, went down, did Ibogaine, and did 5-MeO, left his fucking cane there, went home, banged his wife, doesn't need the sunglasses anymore. And is not bedridden. And that was about six months ago. And I just talked to him the other day. He's still, like, good to go.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And, dude, this shit happened, like, when did he, I bet it was four years. Four years of, like, living through that shit. I mean, cracked skull.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
One Ibogaine treatment, done. I was like, do you think you'll go back and see if more benefits show up? And he was like, no, I'm not going to do it. But he's like, not unless I start to slip. But he's like, I'm good. I'm at peace. I feel fucking great.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yep. You know? And... I mean, even mine, like, I haven't drank in almost three years now. Really? Yeah, I just... I went down and did the Ibogaine experience, and, like, it was just like, have you done Ibogaine? No. Why not?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. Well, there it is right there, right? I kind of drank it almost three years, but... I mean, it was, like, do you want, like, the whole experience? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I went down to Mexico, and I just kept having these guys come on my show, and the first one was Eddie Gallagher. He was talking about psychedelics, and I was like, oh, no, that shit's for hippies.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And then, you know, the one that really got me was I had this guy on, his name DJ Shipley, and he, like— I saw that one.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, it's great. Dude, DJ's a fucking beast, bro. Yeah, I follow that guy on Instagram now.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Like, takes Navy SEAL to a whole different level. But anyways, but yeah, he, like, went out of his way after we recorded, and he was like, hey, dude, like—
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
you should really fucking think about going down there and um I was like all right well you know I've done all the I've done like a ton of research I've talked to a bunch of guys about it I understand like how it works now and so fuck it I'll go and so I went down there because uh I just wanted to be more in the moment with my with my family I got two little kids now and I
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so I went down there and that was like I felt like I was kind of like through the PTSD type stuff and and maybe not. But but I would I just wanted to get rid of anxiety and be in the moment with my family and did it ended up.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so I went down and did the Ibogaine thing, and we took these pills, and, like, I didn't get a lot of visuals, but the first visual I got was I was just sitting there, like, looking in this mirror, shaking this fucking maraca, and my head's, like, I was like, all right, this shit is not working. Well, then my head, like, it, like, split open like a,
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, dude. It was like, I watched my head, like, peel like a fucking banana. Like, it was just like, whoosh. And then another head, like, just blossomed out of it. Whoa. Yeah, it was really odd. And then I was like, all right, it's definitely fucking kicking in, so I'm going to... I'm going to lay back.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And it was kind of – to me, like the whole experience maybe – I guess I just lost total concept of time. It didn't feel – it was like 12 hours, but it didn't feel like 12 hours. It didn't really feel like five minutes either. But I got like this life review kind of thing. and just had these TV screens. It looked like all black, like you're in space or something.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And then these two lines of TV screens that were going in my peripheral vision And what was playing in those TV screens was, and it was moving, like, at kind of a slow pace. And so, like, I could see what was going on in the TV screens through my peripheral. But if I tried to concentrate on any one particular thing, then they would, like, all just disappear until I stopped trying to focus.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
like concentrate on one thing and then they'd all appear again and i could like look at it through my peripheral and i'd i'd be like oh you know that was uh that was in baghdad that's when i was five years old and my dad was like yelling at me and that was this and it was like but it wasn't like i wasn't like reliving um traumatic events they were it was just like passing me by. Like a recording.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. And, um, so I just let him like pass. And then I went into some other stage, which I don't really understand, but it was a bunch of like these walls of stuffed animals. And I was kind of like going through this maze. And then like the last thing I talked about before I, I, uh, before I did the experience was China. So then I had like this horrible thing about the Chinese invasion.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
But what came out of that, like it's like, oh, well, that doesn't sound very good. Well, yeah, what came out of that, I lost 11 pounds in literally one week. It's a week-long type of experience. I lost 11 fucking pounds. It's also a heavy metals detoxer, by the way, so that's probably –
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
probably had like some heavy metals blocking me up or something but um though the i the whites of my eyes like cleared up like and it wasn't just me i'd like journaled all this shit down and then i didn't tell my wife any of this stuff and i came home and she's like
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
uh your eyes look like a lot lighter like the whites look a lot lighter whiter and and and my brown eyes looked like they had lightened up huh yeah and then it was also like i had realized every everything that i was ingesting that was poison it was like this going back to intuition it was like this intuition of like i just i was like you know i didn't come
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I didn't go down there to quit drinking. It just fucking happened, man. I was just like, I don't think I'm going to drink anymore. So I haven't had a drink in, like I said, just under three years. Do you think you had a drinking problem? Oh, fuck yeah, man. I had a drinking problem. Big drinking problem. But you didn't think it at the time. Well, my drinking problem had digressed quite a bit.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
So, I mean, I used to. I used to. Drink close to two-fifths of vodka a day. Whoa. Yeah. But, you know, then that was coming out of the agency. I didn't have anything to do, really. And, you know, I was processing a lot of kind of what had happened over the past 14 years. I didn't have any friends. I was severely depressed. Whatever, man. Loved to party. You know, and that just, it was wake up.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
drink many bottles of vodka all day long. And then, uh, at night, you know, I'd crack a fifth. But by the time, by the time I went, uh, there, it was, it was like a, probably two bottles of wine instead of two bottles of vodka at night.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Well, I mean, that's, yeah, it is. But, um, anyways, uh, came back and I just didn't want the wine anymore. I used to take Adderall. I was addicted to that. Didn't need that. Didn't need this ambient anymore. Didn't need anything. Cold turkey. Cold turkey, man. Weed. Quit weed for about six months and then... And then, yeah, then I went back. But – and even sugar, man.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I quit sugar for about six months. And it was – you know, the funny thing is, man, like it was zero effort. It wasn't like I'm not fucking drinking and I'm not going to do sugar and I'm not going to smoke weed and no more Adderall. I just didn't want it. And there was no – There was just no urge. There was no addiction left. It was gone. Wow.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
He was a cool dude, man. He was a cool dude. That would have been a hell of an interview.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because they say it's like the one that you would... You can't get addicted to. Honestly, I don't think I could get addicted to any of them, but...
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, it's fucking working. Yeah. I mean, it's working, and it's just... Like, why? Why? Why? Why? Why can't you, like, let us... I'm speaking, you know, for the veteran population right now. But like, why just why can't you just let us fucking get better? Right. Like everybody knows the 22 a day, you know, which is actually like 40 something a day veterans that are killing themselves.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And this shit is a fucking game changer. But I don't think big pharma is going to allow it. I think that's what the holdup is.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, it's – I don't know, man. I mean, it's – there's just – There's so much that goes into this, like that first shooter, right? What was he, 20 years old? Yeah. You know, 20 years old. Then you got, you know, Trump's basically been in the media for, what, about eight years. I think he showed up, what, about a year before the 2016 election, right? Kind of went in.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
So we're going on, what, eight years now of the media just – slamming him over and over he's a threat to democracy this is going to ruin the country you know so if you take that 20 year old i mean eight so he's since he was 12 years old that's all he's heard yeah 12 fucking years old that's all he's heard and little kids have no ability to discern
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
So is it a very well orchestrated act to kill him or is it media manipulation that nobody really thought too far into this and now it's all – now we're seeing the consequences of what that kind of – pushing an agenda like that will do?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I don't know where this ends, man. I mean, part of me thinks, you know, it's just, it's part of me thinks we're just going to, end in some type of a civil war. That's terrifying. Yeah.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, I think we're kind of already there. It's just going to look a lot different. It's a cold war, right? You know?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You see these states banding together. Mm-hmm. You know, you see blue states spanning together. You see bright states spanning together. You see, you know, a lot of governors aligning, sending National Guard down here to Texas, you know, to try to secure the border. You got, you know, these extreme... Look, I don't – whether you agree with me or not, they're extreme.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so like the abortion stuff, like you got states that are making these like super harsh abortion laws like we're going to hunt you down if you get one and throw your ass in prison. And I think – I can't remember how many states now have passed constitutional carries like – I can't remember. I think there's only like a state or two left that need constitutional carry.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
But I mean, I think basically what I'm getting at is I think the lines are kind of like being...
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
drawn right now or the alliances are kind of forming up like hey let's pass these super uh super red laws these super left law or blue laws and and it'll drive everybody out of the state that we won and it'll do you know what i'm getting i do know you know i think this is all like kind of happening naturally
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I think one way would just be having podcasters and journalists – I mean, how the fuck would you do this? But one thing on my show, and I kind of went off the rails a little bit the last month, I got a little probably more political than I wanted. I hate politics, man. Yeah, me too. They come up all the time.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Every time I dive in, I feel like I fucked a hooker on a rusty couch. I don't think this shit's gonna wash off me now. You know what I'm talking about? I do, I do, I do. But anyways, where I was going is, people have just lost the fucking ability to think for themselves. They can't critical think anymore.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
So one thing that I do on mine is if I bring somebody on that's, I'm like, don't say Trump 500 times on my show. Let's not say like, fuck the left, fuck the right. Like, let's not say these fucking Democrats and these fucking Republicans. Like, just just give me the policy. Just give me the problem. Just like, let's just leave all that shit out.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, because if you leave all that, all those adjectives out, then it forces people to go. Well, shit, I don't really know. It forces them to formulate their own opinion because they don't know what their side thinks about that particular issue. Unless you're talking about abortion or something like that. But you know what I mean?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
If you leave that out of... If you can leave those adjectives out, then I think common sense will start to make a comeback because it won't be so tribal. It will be like, well... Actually, I don't really I don't I don't know where the party that I align with stands on this. So I'm going to have to formulate my own fucking opinion here. And man, that would do wonders.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Well, I used to teach weapons and tactics. And I taught Keanu Reeves for John Wick 3. And... And then I got a lot of hate. I'll just put it that way. I got a lot of hate, uh, from, from the, from the special operations community, from the two way community. And, um, and I was like, you know what, man, like it's very egocentric community anyways.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so I was like, I'm, I'm like fucking done with this shit. And, uh, So I just started – dude, I didn't know what to do. I was like doing camping stove reviews and I bought a bunch of fucking alpacas and put them in my front yard and I thought I was going to be a farmer and like – yeah. And then – but you know what I did? I was like – I was like, dude –
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I'm so fucking tired of, like, my guys killing themselves and going into depression and suicide attempts. And I got sick of the same talking heads on TV kind of documenting what was going on over there. It was a bunch of people who had never even stepped foot. in any of those war zones documenting what happened over there.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
So I just started and I built like, I don't know, maybe 250,000 subs on YouTube from like gun stuff. And so I started I was like, I got to one, we got to document the history to there's a major fucking suicide epidemic happening. So let's talk about some guys that had had attempted.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I was I mean, I tried to kill myself, but let's let's get some guys that have really been through it, dug themselves out of it. And and and let's so it's so it's we're documenting history the way it happened. We are talking about the veteran crisis that's going on and how people got out of it.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And then at the end of every episode was, hey, let's talk about your business because it's stories what sell. So let's do the whole story and get everybody super attached to you. Let's document the history, talk about your vulnerabilities, what it was like re-transitioning back into civilian life.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
how fucked up it was, how you ruined your family, how you tried to kill yourself, all that shit, how you came out of it. And then let's talk about your business. And so, I mean, these guys would come on and, and, uh, you know, their business would like jet launch overnight, which I'm sure you, you know, um, but, and that, I just, dude, I just like doing it. I liked fucking helping people.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And I, and, uh, and, uh, But I'll tell you, like I started – it was awesome. I loved it. I still – there's nothing else I'd rather do. I started feeling a lot of resentment to my guests because they would come on my show and then they would like pass me up business-wise like that. And I was like, fuck, man, like, what the fuck do I have to do to make a business out of this shit?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Like, I'm great at, like, jet launching everybody else's shit, but I'm not making any fucking money here, and I got a family to support, and this isn't going to work out. And then I don't know what happened, man, but then something just, like, switched. Like, God just stepped in and was like, you're doing good shit, like, I'm going to I'm going to bless you.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And and I just like hit a turning point. And now I just talk to whoever I'm interested in.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I can't do it. There's no reason to do it. Yeah, you know, when I started, we started in the attic. It was me and my wife.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
We had these shit cameras that had, like, 30-minute timers, so Mike Glover was my first guest, and so my wife was, like, running back and forth, resetting these 30-minute fucking timer cameras, and I'm trying to run the sound and listen to what the hell Mike's saying, and I'm like, this is fucking awesome.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I started, first one got pumped out Christmas of 2019. Wow.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Thank you. Thank you. Well, I studied the hell out of your show when I was doing it. And, you know, I wanted to – I just wanted to make it different. I didn't want to copy the red curtain and – you know what I mean? You made it yours.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You know, I mean, you know what bothers me about the whole camp is nobody, none of these camps like talk to each other. Right. It's my camp knows everything.
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It basically felt like I was surrendering to evil and and I was trying to convince myself to be fine with it. So we're staying in this nice resort in Sedona. They had a guarded gate and I pay attention to that kind of stuff because of my background. And a lot of the guys knew me that worked in there for from from my podcast and and wanted to talk. Well, this we're there for a week.
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The last day I walk through and it's this old, old man in there and he's wanting to talk to me. Me and my wife had gone up to a hike because I was like, I just got to get the hell out of here. Maybe a hike will make me feel better. Walk back down and and this guy starts trying to talk to me. It's dark at this point. I had already kind of surrendered like I'm done.
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i didn't feel good but i kind of made my decision like i'm not doing this anymore and um i'm kind of looking at him over the shoulder like i'm i'm not in the mood to like strike up a conversation and but my wife starts talking to him and i'm like shit i just want to go to my room so i turn around and this guy this guy read my mind from front to back. And I mean, like I've never had that happen.
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It wasn't, I mean, it was descriptive. It scared the shit out of me because I was like, how are you in my head? And he started rattling off all these thoughts that I was having on that entire hike. And he's like, this stuff that's going on in China, that's not your fight anymore. And this stuff that's going on with the kids, that's not your fight either.
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And this stuff that's going on with the trans community, that's not your fight anymore. and i my i had shut down i was like well how was this guy in my head right now so freaked me out we're walking back to to our bungalow we were in a place where it was like kind of like a duplex and um we're on one side somebody else on another side we got there we got when we got to sedona uh
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My best friend that I was referring to earlier, his name's Gabe. He died of a heroin overdose later on. But Gabe was a SEAL. Gabe was a pro hockey player. Gabe was a fighter. We was into MMA. Gabe was at the agency with me. And no matter where Gabe was, Gabe was always known as a protector. Like no matter what unit he was in, no matter what, Who he was with could be the manliest of all men.
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Like, everybody knows Gabe has got you. And he was my best friend. Well, we get there, and we see this guy, and he looks identical. He could be Gabe's identical twin. I mean, you could see differences, but same brow line, same jaw line, same build, same walk, same three-day shadow, same everything. Muscular. And me and my wife are both like, man, that looks exactly like Gabe.
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And everywhere we would go, this guy was at. If we were at the pool, this guy was at the pool. If we were going on a hike, this guy was coming back from a hike. If we were out in town getting dinner, he was out in town getting dinner. And we had always thought it was weird because I kind of had a breakdown on the plane to Sonona. And so I was in a vulnerable spot. My wife knew it.
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I was in a vulnerable spot. I knew it. I was with my buddy Dave and he knew it. And it was just odd that Gabe, who's always known as a protector, is like every this guy that looks identical to him is everywhere. Well, it turns out right from that gate, we walked to. our bungalow. And it turns out this guy and his family is staying right across the, the thing from us.
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And we hadn't seen him all week. And I'm like, that was weird. And on the way back, I'm telling Katie, I'm like, holy shit. Like, I think, I think that was God that was reading my mind. And she's like, yeah, Sean, that was God. And I'm like, I can't believe this. Like, how is this happening? And, and she's like, Sean, God's always been around you. You just don't make time for them.
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And I knew that to be true. So we get to the bungalow. Gabe's staying across the way or the lookalike, whatever you want to call it. We find out he's staying right across. This is all within like 10, 15 minutes. Then we go in and I am...
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i'm crying and i'm like i can't believe this is happening and right before also right before we went to zona uh a good friend of mine uh his name was dan cirillo died uh he was kind of the only he was a seal uh and a businessman and he lived in franklin and i don't have a lot of people that i can relate to uh where I live now in Franklin. And Dan is one of those guys that...
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he's very successful. He owned a couple of hospitals. He owned a, a, a big security business. And he's like one of the few people that I can sit down with and talk business and talk friends. And he doesn't need anything from me and I don't need anything from him. And those, you know, those relationships get hard to come by. And, uh, so we hit it off really fast.
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And then he died on a hunting trip with his son, had a heart attack. And, um, and, uh, but Hey, I mean that if there's a way to go, uh, good on him. But, uh, anyways, his daughter who I had never met, I'm having this breakdown in the, in the hotel and, uh, his daughter, I heard my phone go, go off while I was talking to Katie.
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And as soon as we kind of finished what we were talking about, about what was going on, I checked my phone and it's from his daughter and, and, uh, It's this text. I'd never even met her before. And she says, she must have got my number from her dad's phone. And she said, hey, Sean, this is Taylor, Dan's daughter.
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And I just walked into my dad's gun room for the first time since he had passed away. And he grabbed me by the arm and told me that I needed to contact you because you knew a side of him that nobody else knew. And that he wanted me to tell you that he loves you just the way that you are and that you're doing exactly what you should be doing. And then...
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uh, I'm trying not to lose it right now, but, um, but, uh, so that was like the third thing all within, like I said, 10, 15 minutes. And I was like, Holy shit. Like there's no to die on this one. And, uh, and, uh, yeah. And so, you know, I grew up Catholic and never really took church seriously. Uh, I never did. And then when I left home, I never really went back and had kind of lost faith.
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And I'm not saying I wasn't a believer. I just didn't really care. I didn't think about it. And I had definitely no time for God. And so I took that as a, I mean, that was like a slap in the face. And I, I decided I needed to get serious about faith and at least look into it. And so I started looking into it and, and it's, and it's been great.
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And, and, you know, to be honest, it's the only thing I can find that makes any damn sense anymore. And it's all, it's all in that book. Everything we're seeing happening right now is in that book.
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I did. I did. I started trying to read it from front to back and, and, uh, I wasn't really getting anywhere.
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Yeah. But then turns out, as it turns out, my entire team, I'm really close with my team, my podcast team, the guys that work for me and make it what it is.
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and uh turns out one guy's was raised southern baptist super well versed in the bible my editor darren uh grew up a jehovah's witness and uh escaped escaped it but but knows i mean knows that book from front to back um my it guy adam uh devout catholic knows it all everything elijah my production manager he's the southern baptist guy
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and they kind of started pouring into me and and a lot of my buddies that were in the seal teams uh eddie penny really kind of paved the way for all of this i think uh eddie penny was uh we were team two together and then he went on to dev group and uh just like oh ma like i mean
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not who you would expect to come to faith but he was my christmas episode a couple years ago and ever since he came on and gave his testimony of how he came to everybody that's been on the show has brought it up and um and he became kind of a mentor of mine so i called eddie and told him and i said hey this is what happened really know where to start. I don't really know what this means.
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And we had a conversation. And he goes, who he was like, Oh, man, he's like, a lot of us have been praying for this to happen.
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And that kind of freaked me out. I was like, well, what do you mean? And he's like, we've been waiting for this. He's like, you have a big voice and this needs to happen. And so that was at about midnight. Now I'm getting into some other kind of weird synchronicity coincidences. And so about 12 hours later, I had a meeting that Adam, my IT guy, had scheduled with me at noon. And
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eddie was telling eddie was telling me during the conversation he was he was talking about guardian angels and all this other stuff that was spiritual warfare stuff that i know like nothing about well fast forward 12 hours i'm talking to adam i didn't know what this meeting i thought it was about email marketing or something and uh he wanted to talk to me about spiritual warfare and guardian angels wow and i was like
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It was literally like almost the exact same conversation as I had had with Eddie Penny.
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And they're not friends. I mean, Adam is with all due respect.
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Eddie is a built like a shit brick house, a dev group operator. And Adam is a it computer nerd who I love to death. And, uh, so no, they don't, they don't, there's no cross pollination. They're not friends. I've never spoken exact same conversation at noon, come home for lunch from my studio to be with the wife and kids. And, um, Adam, uh, And anyways, I go back to work.
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I look at my clock in my truck and it says it's 444. I look at the odometer. It says 444 miles left to E. And this is four hours and 44 minutes after my conversation with Adam about guardian angels. So I look up the meaning of 444 and it is your guardian angels want you to know that they have got you. And
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i'm just i'm like holy man like we just had two conversations about guardian angels and now i'm seeing 444 everywhere within gabe yeah and and and it's in the meaning of it supposedly according to google is your guardian angels want you to know that they've got you And and so I've been in it ever since. And and I've had some great mentors and started going to church that didn't last very long.
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And and now we have we have a group of there's four families, including us, a lot of trust, very close friends of ours. And we we just have a discussion every week, every every Tuesday. So when I get home today, that's that's that's what we're doing. And it's cool. You get to ask the tough questions. You don't need to be embarrassed. You're not going to offend anybody.
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You don't feel judged like you're going to church. You know, I always feel like I'm being judged.
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Built in. And there's none of that. And, man, you know, when you kind of take all of the BS that religion kind of injects into your journey of building a relationship with the Creator and Jesus, It's really interesting and it can be a lot of fun.
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Really?
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Well, I'll give my opinion to myself. Why? The middleman is a lie. There are no middlemen. It's just about you and your relationship. And that's it. I'll let you know that. And when you think like that, I mean, it gives me a sense of peace, you know? And then you start looking at all the stuff that's going on, like Trans Visibility Day being declared on Easter Sunday.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Like, you can't tell me these aren't signs, you know? And this is all, like I said, this is all in there. I'm still reading through it. I'm not through it all yet. I don't claim to be an expert, but...
The Megyn Kelly Show
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but you know i see things i have a team to lean on who's well versed in this stuff and very fortunate and uh and it's everything we're seeing happen is in that book and when you can when you come to that realization it's really odd but all the stuff that like all the stuff that was bothering me and it still does bother me
The Megyn Kelly Show
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but at the same time, it makes me stronger because up that was supposed to happen, you know, up that's in that book up like really like trans visibility day, a confusion of genders on Easter Sunday, making a mockery of the resurrection. Like that was in there.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And, uh,
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Definitely. I mean, I'm at peace with it. I mean, I'm still going to fight the good fight and I'm still going to bring truth and uncover corruption and tell these stories and I'm not going to bend a knee to anything and...
The Megyn Kelly Show
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and but you know it it but seeing it all happen it's it is actually making me stronger because i found something in a world of nothing that makes any sense at all not a damn bit of sense this makes all the sense in the world it's it aligns with the values that i've always had or maybe i align with its values you know but um
The Megyn Kelly Show
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but it yeah it's helped me and uh and then you start learning about you know maybe forgiveness is for you and not for the people that
The Megyn Kelly Show
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did something bad to you that was unjust you know it's it's it's for your sense of peace not for theirs you know you can you can go on and waste all that bad energy hating somebody and talking about them and you know complaining you know i got screwed over and i'm a victim but the minute you forgive them that's off your plate and it just it it's it's it's like a cleanse
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Yeah.