Shawn Ryan
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And these two dudes would roll in on my moped, pull out the bomb out of the back, plant it, wire it up, try to drive off. And we smoked them. And so they're laid on the side of the road. Once again, like my badass boss. Oh, I see. Then there was this taxi and he kept like driving circles.
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Because the convoy, the army convoy had gone by and the explosives didn't go off because the guys that were going to initiate it, we'd killed. They came by like another time. They came by like three times. All of a sudden you heard my OIC go, Maddie! Light that fucker up. And so here's the road, a sniper hide on this side of the building, sniper hide on that side of the building.
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And then we had two automatic weapons guys that were basically like the M60 machine gun. It was like an upgraded version of that. And there was two guys on top of the roof. And they just peeked over the lip of the roof. And you just saw, like, tracers. Just, like, heavy machine gun fire coming down from two different angles. Hit this fucking car. Blew it to shit. Kept driving.
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Hit, like, an electrical box. The electrical box blows up. And then we were, like, right on. We were, like, right on. Who was that? And it was I mean, he was obviously involved because he kept driving by to see if the if the explosives, why they didn't go off. Then we called in the army to come in, like do the cleanup and bag the bodies and. pull all their IDs and shit.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
I love that guy, man. Did he get you into... He came to Nashville and had like a launch party for this. Oh, okay. At Ramsey's place and I was like, ah, fuck it. I'll try one about knocked me on my ass. And then I was like, I kind of like, kind of like this.
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And so it wound up, we had killed the two IED emplacers, which were just, you know, little minions. And then the guys in the taxi, one of the guys wound up being the cell leader, like the IED cell leader for the entire region. And we just, you know, killed him. And so, so that was really cool. So we did a lot of that stuff in Baghdad where we were just, and then none of those guys would get killed.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
They didn't get blown up again for the rest of the time. They took everything that they learned from us and killed a bunch more people. We ran into them, bad guys, not people, terrorists. But we ran into them right before we left, and they were like, dude, we've been getting it on. So word got around, and then all these other units started calling. They're like, hey, can we use you guys over here?
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
And so we'd go over there and then kind of do the same thing all over again.
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I'm sure if you go to a super blue state, a lot of people hate you. You know what I mean? And if you go to a red state, a lot of people probably like you. And that's kind of like how it was over there, you know? And so we would go into these places and break in and set our sniper hides up in people's houses and people's buildings and whatever.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
Like that particular instance, the shoot I was just talking about, that operation, they were emplacing those bombs on this woman's like right in front of her house. And she had little kids, you know, and she's actually the one that told us. She was like, these guys come every Thursday at 8 p.m. and my kids are outside trying to play or like they're coming in and breaking my windows and everything.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
You know, it's causing a lot of violence. So she like dimed them out and was like super happy that we're there, super happy that we killed those people, those terrorists. I don't know why I keep calling them people. But, you know, and then you go to other places where the town was black and black means no Americans are allowed in there. Nobody's allowed to fly over it.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
No helicopters, no tanks, no Humvees. And then they would send in the SEALs to go and kind of take care of business on the outskirts of the town, or they'd send in the Marines to a place like Fallujah and just, you know, wipe everything out. It was kind of hit or miss, but the majority of the places that we operated in, they were like really happy that we were there.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
So yeah, we went into this one place, and like I said, it wasn't my specific hide, because we have like, I don't know, four or five hide sites all around a designated area where we thought they would show up. And these guys broke into a house. Another sniper team on the same op broke into this house and wound up being an Iraqi prostitute. Yeah.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
And you would think that they don't have that stuff because they're all, you know, full dress. Like they wear the, you know.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
No, no, no, no, no. We broke into a prostitute's house. And so, and she didn't speak any English and those guys didn't have an interpreter, but she kept trying to tell them, I guess, that there were going to be visitors showing up. But she was super happy that they were there. She's like cooking for them and making tea and all this other shit.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
Yeah. Oh, yeah. But you'd have like these Iraqis banging on the door and she'd have to shoo them away. And then 15 minutes later, another one would bang on the door and she'd answer and shoo them away. And it was like they came over calm. So like, I think we I think we set up in a prostitute's. house. Like, well, make sure you keep watching the target. No, don't get too busy over there.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
But that's hilarious. But yeah, everybody, most, most of the people were just like really happy that we're there to kind of get rid of the, the bad shit that was going on in the neighborhoods.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
No. At the end of the day, man, you know, there's people trying to kill you and you're trying to kill them. I hate to say it like this, but everybody's just doing what they believe in. Those guys believe that we're the bad guys and we believe that they're the bad guys. And, you know, only God really knows. We probably should have never been there.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
If somebody were to infiltrate our country, I'd do the same damn thing they were doing to us. I'd kill as many of them as I could. But no, I don't think we should have been there. I do think that we killed a lot of evil, you know, in that country. But should we have been there?
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
Yeah, I think that one was justified up to a certain point. And then after that point, I mean, look, we went in there to eradicate terrorism, right? When you start getting these stupid rules like the one that I had mentioned earlier, they were sending the Marines into the hornet's nest.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
and and giving them these ridiculous roes like if they shoot at you and they drop their weapon then you can't shoot back and it's like dude like that sounds like they're gonna get killed or they're gonna be worried that they're gonna go to prison so if you don't want them to kill the bad guys that's when i was working for the agency or contracting for the agency we didn't fall under those rules but you know it was just like man like what the fuck are we even doing here
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
after that bin laden raid if if the goal wasn't to eradicate every terrorist within that country then what are we doing there what's your opinion on 9 11 do you think that's something that could have been prevented definitely i mean we got a warning we got several warnings right but you know i went over and interviewed this guy ahmad massoud about the about the funding that we're doing to the terrorists right now and uh
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What the withdrawal was like, because those guys were on our side. There was an alliance.
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Yeah, yeah, the most recent withdrawal. And we turned that over to basically our enemies. And all the guys that fought along with us, like there were a lot of Afghans that were on our side that were fighting with us. And, I mean, 20 years these guys have fought with us. And then we just left them. Well, they're still there fighting Taliban, fighting al-Qaeda, fighting these –
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
you know, terrorist organizations. His dad was the guy that we were going to partner with because he had that alliance. But way back then, his dad was also Ahmad Massoud. He's known as the Lion of Panjshir, just a phenomenal warrior and leader. Bin Laden killed him, had him assassinated. They set up a fake interview where they sent in like a news crew. I
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
So, man, I don't know, man. I've had a lot of like really good interviews, but I don't know. And every time somebody asked me this, somebody knew somebody different pops into my head, but I had this dude, Chris Beck on and like one of the most brilliant minds that I've ever encountered, like just a super smart guy, but he was the first, maybe the only, hopefully the only, but transgender Navy SEAL.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
I believe it was two days before they did 9-11. Because bin Laden knew that we would use the alliance, the resistance, to infiltrate Afghanistan and to use them to help us get the lay of the land and use their intel networks and all that kind of stuff. Well, they had set up an interview much like this, but they put the explosives in the cameras.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
So they started the interview and then blew the cameras and killed Ahmad Massoud, the lion of Panjshir. Well, he had tried to warn us days before that that this was going to happen, and nobody paid attention.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
He warned the administration, the Bush administration, and they didn't take it seriously.
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Yeah. There's a lot of weird stuff around 9-11. But yeah, I mean, it could have been prevented.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
I got out in November of 06. And I wanted to be a businessman. I'd read Trump's books on deployments when we weren't doing anything. And I was like, man, I want to do what this fucking guy's doing. And so I thought I would get out and start a real estate empire. And that didn't work. And so I was going to open a Jimmy John's with my dad.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
I didn't have any money and he didn't have the money to fund it either. And so I was like, well, I was like, there's this contracting thing that I can do and pays really well. And so I was like, maybe I can go over there and just work for like a year and then come back and we can just pay for it cash and start this damn sandwich shop and open a whole bunch of them.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
So I started contracting and, uh, I tried like all these, I just floated my resume everywhere with the NSA, with the, actually you don't really know like who you're applying to. Yeah. How do you apply to like, so there was like all these companies out there where you would, they would, they would take your resume and kind of farm it out and put you in groups. Like
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
Because at that time, contracting was huge. So they had like police officers and DEA agents and FBI and SEALs and Green Berets. And they would take like your experience and put it into a tiered system. When the agency or the NSA or the DEA or State Department, whoever needs guys, they were like, all right, well, what caliber of warfighter do you want? What capabilities do you want?
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
They would tell the company, this would be like to a company like Blackwater. And they'd be like, well, we want all special operations guys that have been in for however long. So they would go into the resume files and the tiered systems of like, all right, here's who we have and be yes or no. And so then they would call all of us up and say, Hey, you're trying out for this thing.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
We need you here at this time. but they wouldn't tell you who the client actually is. So I got picked up and tried that and got through the vetting process. There was a handful of us. I think we only, I think out of all, it was all Spuck Ops guys. And I think there was like three or four of us that actually got through it, got through the training, passed all the qualifications.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
It's called a vetting process. And then at the end of that, they're like, hey, you're going to be contracting for CIA and here's the dates we need you to leave. And so that's at the end of that is kind of when you get your briefing.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
It's not fight. It's not like an offensive force. My thing kind of, it was a protective detail for spies. And then when we got in there, they started to realize like, these guys are a lot more capable of doing other shit than just
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
Yeah, yeah. And he wrote a book called The Warrior Princess. And then he transitioned back into a man.
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protective stuff undercover and so they started using us for all kinds of shit yeah that's kind of how it works you know it's i mean it's like it's like when you build a house if you build a house you get a general contractor and then he finds the drywall guy the plumber the electrician the roofer you know, the window guy, all that. And so it's essentially the same thing.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
They would go to a company like Blackwater or SOC or MVM, and they would be like, this is what we need, and this is the caliber of people we need. Blackwater or SOC or whatever the entity was would do the recruiting and say, hey, we've got 50 guys ready to go, already qualified, like everything you're looking for plus some. And so they would be like, boom, Blackwater wins the contract.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
agency pays Blackwater, Blackwater pays us. We go do the work.
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And it's cheaper, you know, it's cheaper for the government. to do it that way, then hire, then do big military recruiting push or whatever, you know, and then you're paying, you know, you're paying retirements and you're paying, you know, healthcare and all that kind of shit and for the families and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. So, and this is like a quick, a quick thing.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
Cause I don't think anybody really realized that the war was going to go on As long as it did that way at the end of it, they don't know you anything. You don't know them anything. You just cut ties and that's it. Plus it's a great way to just, Hey, we don't know who these people are. They're just contractors.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
So I did that for, I don't know, a number of years, maybe four or five years. And then I took a break and I was like, ah, I need something different. So I started doing this anti-piracy shit. And, uh, at that time, like, I don't know if you heard the captain Phillips story, the Somalian pirates were hijacking all these tankers and, and, uh, cargo ships and stuff. So they would throw us on.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
He transitioned to a woman. I mean, as you can imagine, the SEAL teams just lost their fucking minds.
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And then if they got, if they tried to hijack them, then we would kill them. And, um, so I did that.
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It was, so you would jump on wherever, uh, But it would be game on when you got into the Gulf of Aden, which is like in between Yemen and Somalia. Holy shit. It sounds cooler than it is. It was the most boring job I've ever had.
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There is, but it's like very far or few between. So like the first one I did, we got on in Mauritius, east of Madagascar. It's like this little island country, interesting place. But you just get on there and just do nothing but work out and mess around and screw off until you got into the Gulf of Aden, which could be weeks.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
Yeah, I just think it's fascinating to get in somebody's mind. I really wanted to know, how does this happen? Especially to a SEAL.
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suez canal um that's kind of when you're you're you're ready for some shit to happen i did one trip and then um the agency got a hold of me and wanted me to contract directly for them without the companies so that what they would do is they would like recruit the best guys supposedly the best guys and so i went back to the agency doing that they actually hired me like two weeks after i got arrested in miami
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
and uh we're pretty headstrong guys and so i was like how how's this gonna go and uh and i also like i wanted i mean he had transitioned back so i wanted people to see like what that looks like and the effects you know that it has on people because you know i mean it sounds like it's getting better now but at the time you know we heard all this stuff about kids transitioning and
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
Yeah. I was, it was, I was like really paranoid that they weren't going to hire me. Cause did you know that place 11? Oh, buddy.
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Yeah. Yeah, man. So 11 used to be the golf of Aiden. Same, same level. Yeah, so 11 used to be the gold brush. And so I did like a crazy night in Miami, downtown, wherever 11 is at. Stayed there until like 9.30 in the morning.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
Yep. And good times. Yep. They were closing and I was like, well, shit, man, the party's getting ready to fire up in Miami Beach. So let's go over there and see if we can pick up some women. And so I passed out in the taxi.
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and woke up to the cops like beating on the door and i'm like what the fuck is this didn't have any cash on me so i was like hey let me just go to the atm and just pay the cab driver and they did not like they didn't have it it was it was uh it was a memorial day weekend is that in may oh yeah it's messy in miami yeah they have like a 5 000 arrest quota and they were like nope handcuffed me threw me in the clink and it's not because you were drunk just because you couldn't pay the taxi
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
And I mean, I was drunk off my ass and on some other stuff too.
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It's 11, right? Yeah. So they threw me in jail with a bunch of people that don't speak English. So I started just brushing up on my Spanish. I was in there like the only white boy in with a bunch of Latinos. And I was like, well, shit, I might as well make the best of it. So I started having them teach me Spanish. Yeah.
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in jail knowing that i had to be in cairo egypt like i so the way the piracy shit would work is they would like give you shoot you an email and you would have to be out within 24 hours and i was like fuck man like i know there's an email in my inbox with a plane ticket to go to cairo
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I'm like, you can't arrest me. I got to go fight pirates within 24 hours. They're like, yeah, right, buddy. And so get out of jail, go to an internet cafe. There it is. So then I had to haul ass back home, pack my shit and be on a flight within like 12 hours. So from arrest to Cairo, it was like 24, 36 hours and I'm back on a ship.
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And then on the ship, I got the email that the CIA wanted me to contract direct for them. And I'm like, I hope they don't fucking Google my mugshot, even though it was a really good looking mugshot. So I got back from that trip and from that piracy thing and like, well, we're going to need you to come in and like do an interview at headquarters.
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And I'm like, I totally fucking blew this because I was like really excited. Like, cool. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
washington they were confiscating kids you know from their or they were they were taking them the state was taking them if the parents didn't want the the surgeries to happen and so i was like well let me get inside this guy's head and like let's talk about how this happened and what the effects are it's one of the most fascinating interviews i've ever done that one out what did he accredit it to
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
long story short so super like rough childhood a lot of like sexual abuse and and and uh and his dad was pretty abusive i think him and his dad has since made up but he basically he had uh some brothers and sisters but he was the one he was like the whipping boy you know they would take him in and just knock the shit out of him And so what he did, he did not want to be a woman.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Maybe I should try that. And so I flew down and did that. And when I came out, like, I just, it was like, you just had this intuition that clicked in my head and it was like, all this shit that I'm doing is poison.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
But what he would do is he would go up in the attic and like skip school as a child and put his sister's clothes on. And he goes, I didn't want to be a woman or a girl. He's like, I just didn't want to be me. You know, sexual abuse by the neighbor. Dad knocked the shit out of him all the time. So he would just put these different clothes on and pretend he was somebody else.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
And then after he got out of the SEAL teams, he rode with the Hells Angels, cocaine, whole gambit, like a lot of us do. We just lose our minds when we get out. And so he wanted to get better. He started going to therapists and he got the wrong therapist. And I don't know if he ever done any therapy, but they always go back to childhood, right?
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
Yeah. So the Ibogaine is like some kind of a route that they get out of, I think Gabon, Africa. And they say it's like the most powerful psychedelic on the planet. And it's like a 12 hour experience. And then you wake up from that and then you do this five MEO DMT, which is also like super profound.
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That one lasts about 15 minutes, but you have a death experience. Dude, it's like you crossover, man. Like you, if you, you have not done it.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
It paints things in a different aspect for you. It just makes things clearer. So like whatever you're doing in business, um, Right now, we have a lot of the similar decisions and stuff. We're both in podcasting and, you know, you got this shiny fucking carrot over here and the shiny carrot over there.
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And like what it can do is like give you the vision and the focus that you need to like get what you really want. And so I did that and it like wiped out all the bad shit that I was doing in my life. And it also like gave me like this intuitive sense of the shit in my business that's not important. And, and like, it made me guilt free to say no to certain things. And like,
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I could tell like what was a distraction in my business. Like, yeah, this might be like a chunk of change like right now, but I'm after the long game. And so it was almost like if you're looking at something through a bunch of weeds, like it's like, wow. And the path just becomes like clear as day. And when I did that, man, like my business like really fucking took off.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
And so it doesn't take your drive away or anything like that. Cause I hear a lot of guys, you know, a lot of people that are like, Oh, I don't want to, I don't want to turn into a fucking hippie. I don't want to like, I don't want to lose my drive and it'll change me, but it will change you, but it will change you into like the person that you're supposed to be.
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It's almost like it illuminates distractions. And you're able to just push all that shit aside and go after the big win.
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You have no essence of time. So when I say it's a death experience, like you 100% in your mind think that you're going to die.
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She started talking to him about his childhood, and he said, yeah, I was severely abused as a kid, and I would put my sister's clothes on as a young 10-year-old boy, and she kind of mind-fucked him into going, you want to be a woman. You want to be a woman. And he was still fucked up on opiates and coke and all these other drugs and stuff. Don't quote me on the exact drugs, but it was...
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You are grasping it like, and I was pretty okay with dying. I was like, all right. And then I thought about my son and my wife and I was scared to death to leave them behind in like this fucked up world. And then you have to let that go too. Otherwise you'll wind up in the cycle. And as soon as I let that go, it was like I crossed over into this other realm.
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But everything, like if I did it right now, I would still see you and the microphones, cameras, and all these guys in the background. And like nothing really changes, but it's an intuitive experience for me. The human eye can only see, we can't see like the spiritual realm. We can't see IR. We can't, you know what I mean? We can't see radio waves. Yeah.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
yeah man and like you do that and you cross over into this other realm it's almost like a filters like lifted off of your eyeballs and you start seeing the exact same thing that you're seeing but you can see like you can feel like the flow of energy and who's good and who's bad and family members that are not here anymore and it lasts like they say it lasts for about 15 minutes but you have
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It kind of proves to you that time does not exist and that there are energies, spiritual forces, and it's just, it's like your full intuition. And I've done it several times since and every time has been very profound.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
Before I went there, I never really thought much about God or what happens after you die. I mean, I did, but I just didn't live my life like that. And then I did that and it made me realize like there's definitely something after we leave here. You know, you hear like your body is like a vessel. You've ever heard that before?
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And that there is a spirit or your soul or whatever you want to call it, right? That's kind of like inside of you and that's who you actually are. without an ego and that's what you tap into and i started like getting into like all right like is it the universe what is a lot of people think they see the big bang on it like is it Is it God? Is it energies?
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And so I just like went on this path where I was like trying to figure it out. I mean, now I'm a Christian and I believe in Jesus Christ and God. And I think you are somehow getting like almost like a direct link into that realm. Maybe God himself. It's fucking crazy. It is, man. I hope you do it sometime.
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Shawn Ryan | Ep. 152
It is, man. It is. I mean, everybody has different experiences on it, but I can tell you like everybody I've talked to has is a better version of themself. And when I say better version, like I think a lot of guys that are hard chargers and business Mongols like yourself, they think like it's going to like hinder that or it's going to become unimportant. It does, man. It enhances it.
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I don't know. Whenever I feel like I need to, whenever I feel like.
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I trip. Yeah. That's what you want to call it. I do it when I feel like I need clarity coming up to a major crossroads and I want all the distractions like moved out of the, out of the way. Like every time, man, I get the path. I'm like, or I'll see things like, look right now, like we're up for big podcast deal, right? My contract's expiring and I'm up for a big deal.
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I've tapped into that, you know, a couple of times and, And I'll see like, and like I said, with the distractions, like, it's like, here's like a big pot of money or here's a big, you know, whatever, man, something that I think might be really beneficial. And I'll do that. And instead of just looking at, you know, thinking this is, this is the way, then it brings in all these other aspects.
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It was a combination of a lot of things plus booze, like a lot of booze. And she told him to write a book and she helped him write the book. And when he was all fucked up one day, she slid over the, you know, the contract and he just signed it, not realizing like he had signed like everything to her. So he wanted to redact the book and he's like, I don't want this released.
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And it's like, Here's the strings that are attached. If you do that, they want to control you. Here's how they're going to try to control you. And it's like, holy shit, man. Like I never, like that was never unveiled to me until I, until I did this. Like for me, that's a big thing. I never want anybody to control what I do. I know there's a lot of traps out there that you can fall into.
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I mean, look at the Epstein shit, you know, you know, for me, like I have a very strong relationship with my wife and my kids. Like I know that they can't get to me through sex, but I know that they could get to me through money. So it will unveil things that, that I didn't think about before.
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that are there and i'll see them like after i do it and if if if that's what i get out of it then i'm like man like that guy that wants to invest millions of dollars into my podcast like this is what he really wants he doesn't want to help me
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He wants me to like do this, this, and this, and start to create a narrative on whatever X, Y, and Z. And then I'll go and I'll kind of like research other stuff that I haven't researched. Sure. Shit, man. Like I'll see it. I'll be like, fuck, he does want me to do that. You know?
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Yeah, man. There's so many guys that have done that, that it's changed their life. I'll give you another example. There's a nonprofit out there called Vets, and it was started by a SEAL Team 6 guy and his wife. That's who I used to go through, and they've been sending guys down for years now. Stanford did a study on it, and they would take guys like me.
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I didn't do this, but they'll take guys, especially that have really bad traumatic brain injuries from blasts, like shockwaves and stuff. They'll fly them into Stanford. They'll do a brain scan. Like when you do a brain scan, it'll show like the parts of the brain that aren't working. It'll be like black spots in your brain where you took the most blasts or whatever, right?
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And they would identify all these black spots. And then they would send them down and they would do Ibogaine. And then as soon as they're done doing Ibogaine, they would fly back up to Stanford and they would do another brain scan. And time after time after time again, those black spots had disappeared and the entire brain was lit up.
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So what's happening like when you do this, not at Disneyland, but if you do it like a therapeutic setting and you have like intentions that you want, what's going on there is so like the neurons in your brain are going back and forth through this thing called the default mode network. And that's from the back of your head to the front of your brain, back of your brain to the front of the brain.
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And she's like, sorry, bud, like I own you. And so the book got released and then he decided he didn't want to be a woman anymore. So he came back. That's awesome. He didn't go the full gambit though. Yeah, that's good. He didn't go the full.
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And that's why like when you see the older we get, the more set in our ways we get. So what's actually happening is like the neurons throughout your life, they get lazy and they just want to use the default mode network, right? And so rather than traveling through all these different neural pathways in your brain, you
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they're just let's just go back and forth back and forth some psychedelics will do is they'll actually put like a block in the default mode network and that communication with the neuron still needs to happen so instead of using the default mode network they go back into these neural pathways that maybe you've never used or you haven't used since you were three years old and it reopens all those neural pathways because the communication still has to happen and when that happens you
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Yeah, man, they're proving it. Wow. And so, so you're seeing like these profound results from this, like, like me, like, dude, I cut Adderall, sleeping pills, opiates, all that shit, like alcohol immediately. Like it also replenishes the receptors in your brain, which is the cure for addiction, the cure for addiction. Yeah. So I had a really good friend of mine. He survived.
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It was the biggest car bomb that I had seen somebody survive. He walked out of it, massive brain injury. Then he gets shot in the head years later. I mean, you can imagine massive traumatic brain injury getting shot right here, square on the forehead. Survived it.
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No, man. How's that possible? Yeah. It's a great question, but couldn't go outside even on a cloudy day without sunglasses. His wife called, she's like, he's bedridden five to six days a week. He's so dizzy. He can't get out of bed. We haven't had sex in over two years. He can't walk without a cane because his vertigo is so bad.
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And I'd been trying to get him to go down there for a long time after my results. I was like, you got to try this, man. Just like, what do you have to lose? And then when I found it was that bad, I was, I called him again and I was like, Let me call my buddy Trevor. Let's get you in. We'll get you fast-tracked. Goes down there. Does the Ibogaine experience. Comes out of it.
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Leaves his cane there for a souvenir. Doesn't need it anymore. The vertigo's gone. Doesn't need his sunglasses to go outside anymore. Hasn't been bedridden at all. Goes home. Bangs his wife.
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after two years and this is like eight months ago and he's still it's still like the day after he left like he's doing awesome this sounds crazy it is crazy it's gonna tell you what's even crazier is why the fuck is it illegal right but you know what i mean and so that's the that's the kind of stuff that that stuff is healing down there and so
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I'm not saying psychedelics is like the end all be all. I think there's a lot of things that we could do, but I mean, I've not seen anything more promising than that, you know, for, for addiction, for traumatic brain injury, for PTSD, for depression, anxiety, like all that stuff. It's curing rape victims going down and like they're able to function again. And, and,
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wow it's really like it looks pretty promising so that's your main message to like people kind of recovering yeah i would i would say look into it you know and then i mean there's a lot going on there you know what i mean definitely it would be like if you you know especially guys not just guys that are operating at the highest level like at the seal teams and and the rest of special operations but for anybody but i mean you wrap your identity up into that
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And, and guys, you know, that becomes them. And so when that gets taken away, it's like, well, shit, who the hell am I? None of these skills really translate to anything else. I mean, just think if like your podcast got shut down overnight, what are you going to do? You know what I mean? What are you going to do? This is, this is what you do when you built an empire doing this, right?
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Well, then it all gets taken away. You know, you have to find a new purpose. And so that's something that's going on. The adrenaline addiction is going on. The, you know, the, the, the TBI is the PTSD that a lot of their wives left them infidelity, guilt, survivor's guilt, having to kill people. Like there's like a heaviness that veterans have, you know? And so there's a,
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can only imagine yeah i think finding a new purpose and being able to like realize like being a navy seal cia contractor that's not who i am that's something i did and that's gone and so what's the next thing you have to figure that out and it takes time you know but you have to get out and get off your ass and go try things and figure out what you like what you don't like
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And clarity comes from that. It doesn't come from sitting on your couch with a bottle of vodka and doing drugs. It doesn't come from that. It comes from finding a new direction and being able to set the old one down and realize that wasn't me. That's just something I did.
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I got to be honest. I'm not following it as much as I should be. I'm kind of exhausted with the political environment. But, I mean, he seems to be doing good. You know, I mean, the Doge stuff. I mean, I'm a little worried about the economy. I think that the government needs to be cut.
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Well, like I said, we're kind of shopping around, and I'm probably going to go independent because I don't like anybody controlling me. I'll probably stick with being independent. I'm pretty independent for the most part right now, but... We've been building my team out. I spent all last year building my team.
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There was four of us, my assistant, my social media guy, one editor, my sound guy slash kind of business guy. And so we've almost tripled that at this point. And so it's kind of getting everybody working together, building a culture. We're building a new studio. Right now we're in like 1,200 feet studio. We're building a studio from the ground up. It's like 7,000 square foot.
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There's going to be a shooting range. That's exciting. Yeah, it's on a bunch of acreage. There's going to be a wellness center. It's going to be like the Google of podcasting.
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Yeah. Yeah. I want everybody to be the best paid, the best culture, proud of where they work. And then I'm, I'm starting to think about doing some stuff for kids, like kind of like a kid's network, because I think, you know, the last four years, especially, you know, kids really, you see what's going on in schools and all that kind of stuff. And the
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um, kind of demonizing police and just atrocious man. And most, most kids don't even have any confidence. And so I want to put something together that could build that confidence and kind of bring, you know, traditional American values back into the country and, and show some patriotism and who real heroes are.
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I haven't had the bandwidth to dive in too much, but I hired a COO to help me build these new verticals. And I think it'll probably be books, turn it into cartoons. Maybe that turns into toys and that kind of stuff.
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You know, I just interviewed the secretary of the VA yesterday, and they're getting ready to slash 83,000 jobs, which they need to. I mean, there's like 180,000. 480,000 government employees in the VA, and there's only 450,000 active duty in the Army. There's definitely an imbalance there.
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Cool. When you come out, I'll have you on my show, and then I have like a 500-yard range. So we'll go down, we'll set some stuff up, and give you a bunch of guns, and we'll put you at it. Let's do it. Cool. Thanks for having me.
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But you see all these jobs getting cut, and I'm kind of wondering, well, how's this going to play out with the economy? But at the same time, I'm not saying we shouldn't be cutting these jobs because there's so much fat to trim in the government. But as far as being the good guys, yeah, I mean, I think it's great that we're pulling out all...
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is it a scary time or yeah i think it is yeah i mean just israel alone you know that's who knows how that's gonna go i don't know i'd like to see us pull out of everything you know i'm not i'm really sure what we're doing over there but do you think trump can put an end to the russia ukraine thing i think he's off to a good start you know what do you think
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Jeez. I would say it's a toss up between the Vietnam war and then probably, probably right around to the Iraq war. I mean, I'm not super knowledgeable on Vietnam, but I don't know what we were doing in Iraq. You know, even when I was there, I mean, I was all about the mission and, you know,
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doing the work and uh killing people that wanted to kill us but you know it's like did we really need to be there probably not i mean if you look back you know at halliburton and and uh cheney those ties and he's part of the biggest logistics company in the war the only logistics company in the war yeah man do you know about this shit i mean i know a little bit about it but i'd love to hear from you yeah so what is that defined for our audience like what's a logistics company
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Don't quote me on this. I'm going to butcher it a little bit because I didn't know we were going to talk about this. But Cheney was, I believe he was the CEO of Halliburton. And so if you went to Afghanistan, if you went to Iraq, Halliburton pretty much ran all logistics for both of those wars.
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And so what I mean logistics, that's like they're building the fuel stations, they're building the chow halls, they're building the barracks, they're doing the laundry, they're cooking the food, they're sorting through the mail, they're- For the US military? For the US military. So I can't remember the percentage, but the majority of people that were over there were actual contractors, right?
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And the way these things work is all these companies will put bids in for government contracts. Well, it just so happens that You know, Halliburton won like all the bids. And so there was definitely an incentive. I don't I don't know what his ties were when he was vice president.
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But to come from that company to the vice president and then to win all those, the company that he came from, Halliburton, to win all those contracts. in a war that we probably shouldn't even have been in just basically everything you see, all the infrastructure that was built, all, all the, everything, it was all Halliburton.
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I mean, it's the military industrial complex, like unraveling right before your eyes, you know? And I, I didn't, I didn't realize that when I was there, you know, cause I mean, we're busy doing, you know, sniper work and all kinds of other shit, but yeah, And then even in Afghanistan, it's kind of like after the bin Laden raid, it's kind of like, what are we doing here?
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Like in the ROEs starting to really tighten up and the Obama administration really kind of chopped our legs out from underneath of us. It got to the point where Marines would be out there and if they got shot at and the guy dropped their weapon, they weren't supposed to return fire and kill the bad guy.
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But it's like, if that's what you're going to do here, then like, what the fuck are we doing here anymore? You're not even letting us do the job. We're not killing as many bad guys. It got to be only the Tier 1 units were doing any real work.
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I think probably the Afghan war, you know, the Operation Enduring Freedom, whatever you want to call it, afterwards, after the bin Laden raid was kind of senseless, and it just seemed to drag on and on, and then the entire Iraq war.
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I did six years. Six years in the Navy. I did a little less than six years.
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I wasn't really good at anything growing up. I wasn't an athlete. University wasn't really a path forward for me. Plus, I would have just blew it with Happy Dad.
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No, definitely not. I didn't, I didn't even like talking to people. So I still get nervous for these damn things. Yeah. Do you?
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Every day, all day long. I was always into, like, GI Joes and shit, even as a kid. And the military, I just always had a draw to the military. I wanted to go to war. I didn't know what that looked like. And so then I started looking at special operations stuff, Marine reconnaissance. Nobody would take me because I was little. Nobody really took me seriously. I was probably like about 30 maybe.
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And the Navy recruiter stuck his head out and was like, hey, have you ever thought about being a SEAL? And I was like, what's that? So he gave me some pamphlets. I went home, studied it, went to the library. We didn't have the internet at the time and checked out all the books, started renting movies about SEAL teams, the National Geographic and Discovery Channel stuff was coming out.
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And so I was like, yeah, let's do this. And I wanted to make my dad proud, man. I just always felt like a failure being the oldest. And just fucking everything up. You know, all I really cared about was booze and chicks.
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Hey, good for you, man. Just getting over it. It took me a long time to get out of that phase.
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You know, I went to boot camp. That was kind of a joke. And then went to Bud's. That was really hard for me. Got through that, went to SQT, went to jump school, and then showed up at SEAL Team 8 only to find myself to go to Europe, to Germany. So more booze and more chicks, which was great. I was just like, man, I didn't go through all this training to – Booze with Germans.
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You've had him on, right? Yeah, super cool dude. How was that?
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Beat people up at Oktoberfest and shit. And so I had made my decision to get out then. And then we got back and then we went to Afghanistan. We did some stuff in Afghanistan. It was right after Red Wings happened. So Red Wings was the Lone Survivor movie with Marcus Luttrell. And so it just wasn't like a great time. You'd think we'd go over there and just fucking kill everybody.
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I mean, it was surreal. You land and like, it's like another world over there. You see how people live and stuff. And I mean, that stuff's fascinating to me to see people living in caves and mud huts and shit like that. And I mean, those people are so poor. They'll put, if you had a bag of fertilizer or grass seed or something, you threw it away. They like hang that up in their house as art.
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But we didn't do like a tremendous amount. We hit a couple of targets and brought back some bad guys and threw them in a little hole and interrogated them and stuff and worked with the Canadian special ops guys, which were awesome. Those dudes were like really cool to work with.
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we got sent home early because because of red wings there was it just got very political that's when i realized i was like i'm done man like i we did like maybe three operations that were they were pretty cool but it wasn't everything it was cracked up to be so i volunteered to go to iraq and what year was that in that was oh five oh six
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and jumped into my sister platoon in Iraq, and then we got pretty busy. We were there to, like, it was another mission that I just wasn't excited about. It was protecting, like, the prime minister or something. And we had an awesome boss, OIC lieutenant, and he started farming us out for a bunch of sniper work.
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The very first mission we went on, I was there for, like, a week, and then we were doing real shit. So basically what he did is he looked for conventional army infantry units or supply routes that guys were getting killed on with IEDs. And they were getting blown up. So they would send us in. We'd do like a reconnaissance targeting package.
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figure out where these guys were getting blown up if there were any patterns and we would bring in a couple of the guys from that unit like teach them like this is how you set up a side this uh we'd teach them everything from setting up a sniper hide in an urban environment to shooting to targeting to finding patterns and then we would actually go on the operation with them
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And the first night we went out, we killed like four dudes, I think, like within sniping. Yeah. Well, kind of. They wound up being like 50 yards away. But it wasn't like a miraculous sniper shot. But so we had these guys come in, two dudes on a moped. And so they were planting the bomb in the same exact place like every I can't remember. It's like every Thursday or whatever at 8 p.m.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Wow. Who are your best friends? Come on. What states are always leading the charge with you?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
What about Tennessee?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Well, you were a damn good pick. Back to the big tech social media stuff. I mean, this TikTok ban. I'm just curious. The narrative or whatever, it seemed to have changed over the years. And I don't know what I think about TikTok. We have a massive TikTok presence. But, I mean, it seems like...
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Andrew Bailey Welcome to the show, man. Appreciate you having me on. Appreciate you being here. So this has been, we've been communicating back and forth for a couple months now, and it's just, it's awesome to finally have you in here.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Whenever I bring my intelligence friends on here and then we talk about it, it's a spy apparatus for China. And so I'm just curious, what are your thoughts on that?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I mean, it seems like China is using our own our own laws against us not just with tick tock but but buying farmland putting putting power plants next to military bases i mean the list goes on but i mean you seem to be pretty previous with this
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I'd like to remind everybody that you have a personal 90% plus conviction rate as a prosecutor, and probably more important than any of this stuff, you are a husband, a father of four with three adopted children, and a Christian.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
When you sue the federal government or the Chinese Communist Party, I mean— This is a question I have because I've seen you, you've sued a lot. And where does, so if you get, if you win that case and you get 20, the state of Missouri gets $25 billion, what, where does that money go? What's it allocated to?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Okay. So whether it's the federal government, whether it's the Chinese Communist Party, whether it's Big Tech, Whoever it is, the money gets allocated to the people. That's right. That's amazing. I'm sure Missouri could use another $25 billion.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
They're always, yeah. They don't like food dice. I don't either, but those are good. I like gummy bears. I will make an exception for those. So let's move in. I want to move into your life story. Yeah.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
What were you into as a kid? A buddy downstairs who's on your staff says you were basically born, you were a born Captain America.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Well, you know, just – You're a partier? I grew up in Missouri. There's not a whole lot to do.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Where were you when 9-11 happened? What were you doing?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
All right. So let's move to Iraq. Yeah. You get into Iraq. Yeah. What was your experience? What was it like when you got on the ground there?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
As a leader.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Thanks. It's really inspiring what you're doing and I think a lot of people are taking notes. Before we get too in the weeds, got a couple more things. So I have a Patreon account, which is a subscription service. These folks have been with us since the beginning. Without them, I wouldn't be sitting in here. Neither would you be.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
What year did you get there?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Oh, so we were there together. That's when I was there. We did a bunch of work with Bradley. We used Bradley's as an insurgent platform at times to conduct sniper operations. Did you see a lot of combat? It was a hot time.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
So where does an officer, where are you placed in the formation of a Bradley?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Man, they did some... They took some nasties. I remember hearing, I wasn't part of any of that, but I remember hearing Bradley's getting struck by AEDs and the door wouldn't open up in the back and guys burn alive in there.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
They funded this whole thing when it started in my attic at my house that we moved here. Total upgrade of equipment. They're just awesome supporters. We've turned it into a community. And now we're actually building a studio out in the woods that's going to be about three and a half times the size of this one. So hopefully you get to see that. Get you back on here.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Any engagements in Bradley?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Good, good. Nice, nice. How many deployments did you do?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Anything significant during that deployment or...
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
But, you know... Did you guys go into Mosul at all? That was just a constant mess.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
That's our duration. Yeah. Even after we pulled out. Yeah. It was just agency and a couple of soft teams there. I mean, it was... Mosul was crazy. Yeah.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Yeah. Yeah, it definitely changed a lot with the Obama administration. Why did you leave the Army?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
What was it like for you going back to University of Missouri as a decorated combat veteran?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Did you deal with any, did you have a tough time transitioning from combat to civilian life?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Any problems with... I mean, look, a lot of guys struggle with booze addiction. They get on Zoloft, they get on Benzos. The VA is notorious for handing that shit out. Did you have to overcome any of that?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Since we're on the topic, I wanted to bring this up later, but psychedelics are doing wonders on guys coming home from combat. The longest war we've ever been in, 20 plus years, and I'm one of those experiencers. I did an Ibogaine treatment. It'll be three years this Valentine's Day. And I kicked booze. It just totally transformed my life, all in positive ways.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
And so, you know, being the man that you are today, you have the ability to make tremendous difference in the state and in the country. I mean, what are your thoughts on psychedelic therapy?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Is that something you could help lead the charge on?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Yeah. Is that something that's on your radar that you think you'll participate in?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Right on. Well, so let's move into your career as a prosecuting attorney.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
What kind of crimes constitute a death sentence?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
How many people a year does Missouri execute?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I mean... How... I mean, I'm for the death penalty. The thing that... How can you be sure, though, that they're guilty?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I mean, how is the jury selected on something like that? Because we've all heard the stories about, you know, the jury gets packed with, I mean, we saw with the Eddie Gallagher case. Yeah. You know, Tim talks a lot about that. You know, they kind of pack the jury. Yeah. So how can you be, how is the jury selected and how can you be sure that they don't have their own biases?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Well, thank you for saying that. Thank you for saying that. And you are doing amazing things as the Attorney General for Missouri and really sticking it to the federal government when we needed it. It seems to me like every state needs a you. So how do we appreciate that? How do we make that happen? But and we'll dig into that. But we had a lot of stuff to cover.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Have you prosecuted anybody that wound up on death row and that was executed?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
What does that mean?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Okay, so there are people— on death row or that have been executed that you've been a part of the case? Yeah.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
What did he do?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Interesting. How many people have you been a part of, Senator Death Row?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Are you notified when these guys are getting executed? Yeah. Does that bother you at all?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Let's move on. So through your journey as a prosecuting attorney— you adopted three kids. How did that happen?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Do those guys get the death penalty?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Why aren't they? Why?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Where's Warren County? What's the city?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
When do those conversations start in your family about adoption and how do they go?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
So, I mean, what is the—how old were they when they asked?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
And that's got to be a, whatever you're doing, we have to stop right now and have this conversation.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Is that how it... Yeah, yeah.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Yeah, yeah. Will there be, I mean, I don't know the background of your kids, and I'm sure you probably don't want to get into it on air before adoption, unless you do, do you?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Would there be any possibility that the biological parents would reach out to your kids?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
You sound like a great dad. Advice for fathers from you.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I mean, you're a husband, father to four kids, Missouri AG. I mean, I'm sure you're an extremely busy guy. The whole state's dependent on you. I mean, I thought you were going to be the AG of the country. I really did. And so I have no idea what that would entail, but I know there were discussions about it, and a lot of people were rooting for you to be in there.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
But I mean, how do you find the balance? With all that going on, how do you find the balance?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Yeah, you know, I struggle with it as an entrepreneur. And I mean, it is tough. And I ask a lot of my guests, you know, who are high performers or extremely busy people, and that's pretty much everybody that comes on the show. And nobody seems to have the key. I always feel a lot of guilt being a dad, just not being with my kids. We do a lot of traveling. And I think at the end of the day,
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
you know i just look at it is you know are my kids are they happy are they happy kids and if they're happy then you must be doing something right so that's that's trying to that's how i try to gauge it is is a good formula are my kids happy and uh my kids are happy although my uh my daughter gets But, yeah. So, well, let's take a quick break.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
rocketmoney.com slash SRS. All right, Andrew, we're back from the break. And we're going to get into some of the legal issues and the current battles that you're kind of doing right now. I know that you have a lot of stuff going on. So before we get too in the weeds on this, I need you to... You're at about a level 10. Yeah. I'm at about a level zero with attorney talk.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Like you're talking to a preschool. But, yeah, seriously, let's get into some of the legal stuff that you're doing right now, some of the current battles. What is the thing that you're – what would you – what's your top priority right now?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Don't you have an investigation into Google? We do, yep. What is that? Why?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
How does this come across your radar? I mean, how did you figure that out?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Yeah.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I mean, when it comes to investigating, where do you even start? I mean, especially, you're not a social media guy yourself. Are you big into tech? I'm learning as I go.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
So, I mean, it's got to be, I think that's a fear for a lot of people is, and you're doing amazing things, but when it comes to, especially, I guess what I'm more talking about is when we see the Senate or the Congress talking about
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
talking about censorship, and you got Mark Zuckerberg sitting in front of the Senate having a hearing, and you got people like Mitch McConnell who blanks out and has a stroke mid-sentence. I mean, these guys don't know what the hell to look for. We had Feinstein died in office.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I mean, you have these dinosaurs that are in there that probably don't even know how to open a damn email, and they're talking to a tech titan. I mean... How do you guys – and you seem to be extremely effective at it. So how do you start the investigation? Do you wrap yourself around a team that is extremely well-versed in tech and SEO and censorship and all these other things?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
So break this down a little bit more because this is something I think a lot of creators, including myself, have dealt with. Censorship and stuff like that for a long time. It can be debilitating for business. And it's demoralizing. You know, it's... Me and Joe Rogan talked a little bit about this. When Google demonetizes an episode, I mean, that's a big income stream for a lot of creators.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
So they drown you with useless information, just thousands and thousands and thousands of pages of shit that has nothing to do with what you're looking for.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
So if you're successful in the Google thing, does that— Will that only affect Missouri or will that be nationwide?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
You mentioned the Hunter Biden laptop. What was on that laptop that really caught your attention?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to him getting in there. I mean, do you think there's going to be any I mean, by the time this comes out, we'll know, I think. But do you think they'll have run into any snags? I don't think so. I mean, I don't— Pretty clean past.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
And he says that that's how they do it. They kind of force their creators to not talk about certain things and push them out of that realm. So you'll be able to tackle that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Yeah. You know, also, speaking of the Bidens, what did you think about all the pardons? You know, was it the day before he pardoned Milley, pardoned, shit, who else did he pardon? He pardoned Milley, pardoned Fauci, pardoned his family hours before the J6 committee.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Cheney.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
See, that's what I want to know. So I thought when you pardon somebody, it had to be for a very specific crime.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I think a lot of people are wondering that.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Now, I mean, I don't know any of this stuff, but I've heard grumblings, I've heard rumors that, you know, just because that they were pardoned by the federal government, the states could still go after.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Do you think anybody will go after them?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
What states would? What states would have that power?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I mean, what... A lot of people want to see these people burn for what they've done, especially Fauci, you know? And so, I mean, what, Man, I don't even know what I'm trying to ask here, but I mean, what would you like to see happen? Could they still investigate? Would it be worth the time for the federal government to investigate Fauci, the J6 committee, Milley?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I'm not even sure what that's for. Yeah. The Biden family, which I just interviewed Colleen Georgescu. He was one of the candidates in Romania that got censored for
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
russian influence you know again russian influence maybe maybe not i'm sure they're meddling in the in the in that election i mean yeah you know we're building we are nato is building the biggest base ever in romania he doesn't want it i'm sure russia doesn't want it so i mean i could definitely see that but then it comes out today up biden was taking money from romania
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I mean, so I guess what I'm getting at is you can't really – it doesn't sound like the federal government can really go after these guys, but can they still expose what they've done? Is there any – Is there a reason to do that? I mean, I think everybody would like to know. I mean, could you still conduct the investigation and present it to the people and be like, look, this is what happened?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I mean, so in a picture-perfect world, you would like to see the federal government conduct the investigations through all the people that were pardoned and have that information revealed to the American public.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
How exactly will you do that? Because my friend and attorney, Tim Parlatori, we've had a lot of chats about this. I'm like, this is ridiculous. They'll just pull an episode and it just disappears into thin air. And they won't even tell you what's wrong with the episode. They won't even tell you anything. And I can get the demonetization, I guess, but, I mean, it pisses me off.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
What would you do if you were the AG?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
If you were in there... Not Pam Bondi. If you were in there, I'm just curious about how you think and what your strategy would be.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Just talking to your team downstairs, sounds like you got a hell of a life story. So I was planning on just going over some policies and some stuff that you're kind of tackling as the Attorney General, but let's kick it off with a life story. But everybody starts with an intro here. So Attorney General Andrew Bailey.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Would that be a top priority of yours? Absolutely. What would some other top priorities be?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
What about stuff with Big Pharma?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
But I'm always wondering, like, hey, Tim, do we have a case here? And he's like, well... Not really. Section 230. That's the problem. Yeah. So it would be amending the Section 230 law?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
There's a lot of talk about pulling, not enabling or taking away the right for Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson, Moderna to advertise on media channels. I'm kind of curious about your thoughts to that. I don't think it really does anything.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I think where I'm going with this is because those are some top advertisers. I mean, I just watch. I never watch legacy media, ever. I get all my news from interviewing folks like you. But me and my wife were in a hotel a couple weeks ago. I did decide. I was like, oh, let's flip it on. Let's just see what they talk about. I turned on Fox News.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
it was like three out of five ads were pharmaceuticals. And so what I'm kind of getting at is because those are obviously their top advertisers, then they control the narrative. And it's, if you don't talk about this, then we don't advertise with you. Now, if we make it illegal for them to advertise on legacy media channels, they also have God knows how many lobbyists.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Isn't it Big Pharma has the second biggest? Is it the second biggest? I think Big Oil is number one.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. It's one of the top... three would you say that and so wouldn't they just use their lobbyists to funnel money to the legacy media some other way some other how and to to continue to influence yeah channels to hey don't talk about this talk about this you know there's there's business always finds a way around the law it seems like and so i mean how do you
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
How do you do it?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Something like that.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I mean, could the company just – I mean, I'm just spitballing here. I don't really know how it works. But, you know, we talk about the lobbyists. We talk about the advertising. They control that space. Hey, don't talk about this. You know, what about – I mean, what if a company just held a lot of –
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
cnn stock yeah you know i mean then hey we're going to relinquish all this stock if you continue this narrative i mean i just don't there's so many ways that they could get in there they're probably doing all of this already it's not probably not just advertising and so i you know i in my opinion i think the only way to actually do it is to and i don't know how you it would it just talked about this with um
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Dr. Paul Saladino, you know, it seems to be like the only way to do that would be some type of an education program and educate the people. But I still don't know You know what I mean? Where it's like, hey, you're seeing all these advertisements. We all know legacy media is bullshit. They're all moving towards podcast form. It's ridiculous. It's like, oh, well, shit, we fucked ourselves up here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Let's just copy what the podcasters are doing. But I think it's already done. But at the same token, I think there needs to be some type of a re-education I hate saying that term because it sounds horrible. Well, counterspeech.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I mean, do you think Big Pharma plays a role? And are they the reason that Natural medicines like psychedelics aren't hitting the market because it, it wipes out opiate addiction. It helps wipe out benzos. You know, like I said, I did it totally cleaned me out. Yeah. And, and, and I mean, how do you, but you can grow that a lot of this, you can grow this stuff in your house if you want to.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
It's not, you know what I mean? It's not out of the realm, which. would be a huge cut in their income.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
got an antitrust suit you're off to the races well the food industry is doing it i mean we see it and every time somebody comes out and uh with a with a new with a with a natural deodorant or natural toothpaste or of or a food that doesn't have any additives in it you see coca-cola goes and buys it you know purina goes and buys whoever you know they go and they buy the company and use the same marketing and it it it tricks people into thinking that that
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
particular product is still healthy for the consumer when in reality they put in the additives so it has a longer shelf life and we're right back to square one trying to find the next thing. And so is that what you're talking about with pharmaceuticals?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Okay. Let's move back into your lawsuit against China. You had mentioned that they were hoarding PPE equipment. I thought it was ridiculous that we have a virus that came from China. Everybody's wearing a mask that says made in China. I mean, what other PPE? Were they hoarding respirators? All of it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
You may have just answered this. I'm not sure. But let's say you are awarded and you win the case. What court is that in? Is that in a federal court? Is that in a state court? Or is that in some type of an international court?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
so do you honestly do you think if you win this case do you think china is going to pay 25 billion
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
So what happens then? Who holds them accountable? How do you get them to pay?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Does China hold a lot of assets in Missouri?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
So I see a lot of these class action lawsuits going up, and every time I see one, I'm like, Tim, why are we jumping in on this? So have they found any success in suing those companies?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
What kind of assets?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Okay. So how do you find out if the Chinese state owns assets?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I mean, I would imagine it's shell company after shell company after shell company after shell company. And so how do you sift through all that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
So with the IBM case, again, I'm just curious how many other people are jumping on board with you. And so do you do the research to figure out where are all IBMs doing this? What states are involved? Contact their attorney general to see if they want to jump on board with this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Let's talk about, real quick, this just popped in my head, all the executive orders that Trump just signed. And with the stroke of the pen, just basically eliminated all of Biden's executive orders. Where I'm kind of going with this is, and I've talked about this with my friend, my attorney, Tim Palatorti, several times. Talked to Eric Prince about this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
It seems to be that the pendulum's just going farther and farther and farther. And so, yeah, while I think a lot of these executive orders are great that Trump put in, you know, he eliminated everything Biden did. Biden, I'm pretty sure, if I remember right, he eliminated all the executive orders that Trump put into place. And so, great for four years. Yeah. All these executive orders.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Next guy comes in. He's on the other side. He just immediately, with the stroke of a pen, eliminates all of those executive orders. I mean, in your mind, I guess there's a couple questions. One, is there anything else that could be done other than these executive orders? Two, what's more important? Is it state community law? Is it local, state, and then federal?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Or should we be concentrated on federal law?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Interesting. Interesting. Let's talk about the Second Amendment. What do you have going on in Missouri with the Second Amendment?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Now, how is the federal government able to sue you for state law?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I mean, that's the whole point we made.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Is Missouri an open carry state?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
What do you think of the ATF? Get rid of it. You think just get rid of the ATF? Get rid of it. Should people have fully auto weapons?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Wow. Suppressors, Class III items, full auto. I mean, in a picture-perfect world. The Founding Fathers owned cannons. How does this look? Is there a background, Chuck? What would you like to see?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
So it does.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I hope they abolish it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
All right. I want to move into, we had a good conversation at breakfast about George Soros and all of his funding for DAs. How is that – I mean, this is a huge topic in every state. Everybody knows it's happening. I don't know how he's funding everybody or – But what's his goal? What's going on here? I know you have fought against this and have fired several DAs.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Can you talk about, I mean, I used to live in St. Louis. We talked about this. I mean, I went there a couple years ago to meet with our mutual friend, Andy Frazella. I couldn't believe what I saw. I mean, it was like a totally different city. Every part of it. Downtown, the outskirts, all of it. It's just... It's gone downhill. It's really sad. It's really gone downhill.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
And you gave an explanation of how crime, because of the Soros-funded attorney, it kind of started in... St. Louis proper, moved out to the counties, moved out to the ex, to the outer counties. And can you talk about that a little bit? Like how that affected that city? It's not just St. Louis. This is happening all over the country.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Do you get all these other attorney generals to kind of join the charge with you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I mean, the way you describe it sounds like a blast radius of criminals. Yeah. And so, I mean, Phil, it sounds like, because every state is different, they couldn't take your module and apply it to their specific state.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Man, that really devastated that city. Destroyed it. I mean, how do you think they'll, I mean, how long is it gonna take to get it back to what it was?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I mean, I think they'd have to incentivize the businesses to come back, you know, through tax and all these other things. Do you think that's on the table?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Wow. I mean, why is Soros doing this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
It's working.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Are any other states doing anything like this to reverse it? Again, I— You didn't mention Florida.
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
I don't know if we have them in Tennessee, but I hope they're listening to this. I really hope they're listening to this. But back to the Second Amendment, kind of right to self-protection, right to self-defense. I mean, what are the laws of Missouri when it comes to self-defense?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
You are the 44th Attorney General of Missouri, a decorated combat veteran, a prosecutor, and a staunch defender of constitutional rights. You went to college at the University of Missouri on an Army scholarship following the September 11th terrorist attacks on the United States. You were commissioned as an armored cavalry officer in the Army and later deployed to Iraq.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
What about like, Do you have the right to defend somebody else's livelihood? Where I'm going with this is New York City, Daniel Penny.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
You know, that guy stood up for somebody, killed him, they charged him with murder, right? Yeah. So, what is the,
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
So if they would have come on his property, could he have defended it?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
What if they entered his home?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
You know, we stay pretty busy. Sounds like it.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
What do you think your biggest snags are, your biggest hangups, your biggest challenges?
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
If you were to get appointed to a federal position, AG, maybe FBI, I don't know what else, would you take it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
Well, Mr. Bailey, it's an honor to interview you, and you're just doing amazing things for the state of Missouri and for the country because it's a blast radius, you know, blast wave that seems to be going off, and you're definitely leading the charge in a lot of positive ways, and I just want to say thank you for that. And thank you for being here.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
My pleasure. Best of luck to you.
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#176 Andrew Bailey - Suing China for $25 Billion, Abolishing ATF, Fauci and Soros Crimes
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
190? Yeah, yeah.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You were the one that said that you didn't think you were going to pick anybody up or the sheriff?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So I want to backtrack. Yeah. and talk about how you found those six individuals. But before that, what I want to ask is, you know, you're talking about finding victims and these victims don't want to come out. And you're talking about little kids who consider the abuser to be their guardian, a trusted guardian.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And so what I want to kind of, where I think you might be going with this is, You know, people are probably wondering, well, why wouldn't they want to dime their dad out, even if he is their dad, because he's being raped? Right. But, you know, what I want to say is these kids don't understand, look, This is normal everyday life to them. They don't know any different.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They don't know what life would be like to not be raped by their dad every day, multiple times a day. They have no idea what that's like. That's just their reality. Am I correct?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I mean, no, that's it. They've accepted that this is just, this is life. They don't have any other perspective other than just what they've lived.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Man, yeah, I think a lot of these kids, they don't, They don't even realize what happened to them is wrong until long after it's happened. Oh, for sure.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
What happened to that girl in Michigan? How's she doing?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
The sheriff didn't think he was going to get six. Walk us through exactly that entire operation. How did you, how did you, I mean, we're in a, we're in a, is this a town? Is this like a small town?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So it's a small town. Nobody thinks this is happening there. How do you, like you come in, you give a training course, then what?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Damn. Damn. What are some of the commonalities you see in the victims?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Shit.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Is there more adult women or more minors?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
How many of these people would you consider, at first glance, you'd mention doctors, pastors, coaches, teachers. How many of these perpetrators are what most people would consider upstanding citizens?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I think that's the only free will we actually have.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
What about some of these DAs that don't prosecute? criminals. I mean, are you guys running into problems where you put in all this work, and then you have like a Soros-funded DA that's not going to do anything to these?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Do you see more success when the federal government steps in or local?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So do you get all these statistics and demographics of the jury and meet with the DA before you set up shop?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So you know exactly what you're looking for. Yep. what you have to find to get a successful prosecution before you ever set up camp.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
No shit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Jared Hudson, welcome to the show, man. Hey, thanks for having me, brother. Man, I can't believe we're just chatting. So we've been connected for like two years. Yeah, at least two years. I didn't realize it had been that long. Yeah. So Eddie Gallagher connected us.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
How do you find what departments you're going to work with? Because you do this all over the country, correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Thank you for saying that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Wow. How many inquiries are you getting, let's say, a month?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
10, 50, 100?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So it's impossible to service them all.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
How many people are on your team?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Man, I'm going to try to get you guys up here in Williamson County.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I'm serious.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I definitely will.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They've already caught a ton of people here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They caught a soccer coach.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They was drugging little boys and doing that. They caught a priest.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You've seen it. It's rampant.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, yeah, makes sense, makes sense. Jared, I think we're kind of wrapping up the interview. And so one thing I want to hit before, what do you need to scale out? What do you need to do two of these, three of these, 10 of these a month?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
What's some stuff that parents can do You know, to educate their kids and just to make a safer environment to keep from getting trafficked.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
How'd you love, man? Well, Jared, is there anything that I'm missing that you want to talk about?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's been very beneficial for me, man. Man, I just, uh, what a great model that you've developed and, and sounds to be extremely effective. And, uh, man, it's just, it's been an honor to, to get to know you today. And, and, uh, I can't wait to get down there and go on an op with you. And I hope you get, I hope I get you up here to Williamson County. Cause, uh, You know, I got kids here.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But God bless you, brother. And all your links and stuff will be down below. So anybody that wants to donate, get in touch with you. I'll be donating.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, man. It's been an honor.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So a couple more things to crank out here before we get to childhood. So I've got a Patreon account. They're our top supporters. They've been with us since the beginning. They're the reason I get to sit here and do this and you get to be here as well. And so one of the things I do is I offer them the opportunity to ask each and just about every guest a question. And so this is from Blaze.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
In relation to Covenant Rescue Group, what have been some of the reactions by individuals when they realized they are being rescued?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You know, you had mentioned that a lot of these, a lot of women don't think they're being trafficked at first. And this is something that I always kind of play out in my head. And because I've been loosely following the subject for... probably over 10 years now. And first exposure to this was actually from a tattoo shop. I got a lot of ink done at,
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Miami Tattoo Company down in South Beach became pretty decent friends with the previous owner of that. Her name's Amar Sierra. And she had contacted me about a friend that she had that was being trafficked. And kind of where I'm going with this was, that friend didn't want to be helped. And I said, man, I'm sorry, but I'm not a law enforcement officer.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I definitely have the ability to do what you want me to do. But if this person doesn't want to be saved, then there really isn't anything I can do. There's nothing you can do. And so what I want to, kind of where I'm going with this is, is this... I know some people, it's kidnapped and all this stuff, but are some of these women more voluntarily entering into the trafficking space?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So is this similar to, would this be similar to trying to help a heroin addict that doesn't want to get clean.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Another question. So what would distinguish the difference between just a regular prostitute and a prostitute that's being trafficked?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's rare. You know, I got another question. Sorry, I wanted to save this to the end, but the questions are just coming. I don't want to forget them. But, you know, there is... How many people, how many girls in the porn industry are considered to be trafficked? Because it's my understanding that it's basically, it's essentially the exact same thing as prostitution.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
There just happens to be a legal document that says, yes, you're going to give us, you're And it is to my understanding that if there is a contract signed for filming, then it's no longer considered prostitution.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, you know, I wasn't even talking about the pictures.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Because I've been wanting to dive into, sounds weird, I've been wanting to dive into the porn industry and expose some of the shit that's going on. And one of the things that I had just come across is I found this former porn star who's now a pastor. And I've been kind of looking at his content a little bit. And he was talking about the contracts that these young girls sign.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Patch will go awesome in the studio and yeah, I appreciate it. No worries. Well, Here's what I want to do. I want to do life story with you, starting at childhood, go through your SEAL career, go through some of your law enforcement stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And it basically says, we're going to do anything we want to you. You're going to sign here. And then they get in the middle of the act and all this. Just disgusting shit starts happening to these girls, and they're like, sorry, you signed the contract.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I mean, some of this shit's just, you know, downtown Miami. Yeah, dude. And it's just, hey, show up to our condo. Oh, bro, we could— I mean, I've seen newspaper ads.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
There's not a city everybody's like, oh— So what are your thoughts on that? I mean, when you have— Have you dealt with this at all by chance? Yeah. I mean, because I'm not going to lie. I got fucking mixed feelings about it. I mean, I think it's fucked up. You know what I mean? But at the same time, it's like, well, I mean, pornography is an industry. It's not like that you just got...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's not like you just fell for this. I mean, you've obviously seen porn and obviously sought out a way to make money selling yourself on camera. That's right. You know, and so... Is it trafficking? No, so it's... Are they... You know what I mean? I mean, I fucking hate to say it, but part of me is like, you got yourself into this mess. Like, you fucking got yourself into this mess.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You've seen porn. You've seen what they do. Why are you acting surprised now? There's a lot, man. There's a lot. Some of this shit just has to be, I think, like, sorry. You made a fucked up decision, and now you're going to have to live with these consequences.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But the majority of the interview, the meat of it, I really want to concentrate on the sex trafficking and how you're combating that and going after pedophiles and finding some commonalities of the, what do you call them, the assailants?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You don't call them MAPS yet? No, MAPS, yeah, yeah. Modern Tracking People or whatever, yeah. That's good.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah. Well, thank you for clarifying all that stuff. We're going to dive in a little later on. But for now, I want to dig into your life story. So let's just start right at the very beginning. Where did you grow up?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But, yeah, I just want to... We did a big podcast on this before, one crazy, but it's always, you know, I want to re-educate people on, you know, especially parents on what they can do and, you know, kids and all of that. But we'll get there towards the tail end of the interview. So everybody gets a... An introduction, so here we go. Jared Hudson. As a U.S.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
What was going on in Africa? Like, how did that even just enter your head?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Navy SEAL, you served as a SEAL operator with Naval Special Warfare. You were deployed multiple times to a variety of combat zones in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom and... Operation Full Eagle and other critical missions. What is Operation Full Eagle?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And that's— Was there something in particular?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I remember him texting me saying that you were a super good dude and that you're going after a lot of these pedophiles and human traffickers. And, man, that's just a subject that –
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
What did you find to be the toughest portion?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
What class were you in?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Where'd you wind up going?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Let's talk about sniper school.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Can you walk us through kind of your pipeline at sniper school?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So pick is the first course into the sniper pipeline. And it's basically learning how to use cameras, not be detected, no flashes. You should be able to take a picture in 100% darkness, zero visibility. And then they teach you how to kind of compress that in and send it over a communications unit, SATCOM.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Together with your wife and... Together with your wife and a shared passion for helping children who are victims of human trafficking worldwide, you've founded the Covenant Rescue Group, a 501 organization. You are the CEO of your business, The Shooting Institute, where you have personally trained local law enforcement, military personnel, and civilians in self-defense.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So, yeah. So, basically, you get in, observe a target, conduct surveillance, send that surveillance over the net to – somewhere else, and I would say that's probably the majority of sniper missions is surveillance, and so you need to know how to get that data and be able to send it over comms. And then, so after.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's the only portion of sniper school I actually completed, so.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Farthest shot you took at sniper school?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I missed them four times beforehand, but blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You are currently a law enforcement officer as a Blount County, Alabama Sheriff's Deputy and as a Federal Task Force Officer with HSI. What is a federal task force officer?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We'll get there. Don't go there yet.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Damn, we did a lot of sniper stuff in Baghdad. I don't think anybody took a shot over 50 yards.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Okay. Yeah. Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We'll get there. We'll get to all that, the combat elements. So you get through sniper school. How'd you graduate?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Made it through the SEAL teams.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You know, it's really weird. I don't know if I'm just choosing. I don't know what the hell is going on. Everybody that comes on here lately from our background has had a successful marriage. Really? That's good. It's awesome. It's such a rarity, and it's just interesting that the
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
the latest group of soft veterans that have been on this show uh have not been divorced but so anyways i'd like to what what do you what is the for you and your wife what's the what's the secret to a successful marriage christ christ yeah if
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Perfect. So what happens after you, after you leave sniper school?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, I'll tell you what, this sounds like it's going to get really interesting. Oh, does it? Okay, all right. So let's take a quick break. When we come back, we'll pick right up with Afghanistan. All right, sounds good. All right, Jared, we're back from the break. We're getting ready to get into, would you consider this your first deployment?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So, yeah. Let's go there, man. I mean, you had to be pumped, right? You went to Iraq, but it was kind of just nothing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So, did you know you were going to war before sniper school, or did you find out after?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You also serve as a reserve deputy for the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office supporting special operations units and working as an investigator for the Johnson County Prosecutor's Office. You're an Alabama Peace Officer Standard Training Commission certified law enforcement agent and certified National Wildlife Control Operator Administration level one, two, and three sharpshooter.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
What do you mean one-for-one? Do you mean one Afghan per one Afghan?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
you know it just doesn't it does never it never gets enough attention and um so and it's some heavy so nobody wants to hear it um but they need to hear it and so we're gonna crank this out but but uh former navy seal former law enforcement running the nonprofit, running a tactics company. I'll give you a proper introduction here shortly. And man of faith.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
in addition to holding other advanced law enforcement certifications. And lastly, and I'm sure is probably the most important to you, you are a Christian, a husband, and a proud father of three daughters.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Let's talk about your first... It sounds like a lot of shit happened on this deployment. You get a lot of action. The op tempo sounds pretty damn good. So let's just talk about your first operation ever.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
What... Now that, you know, this is the day after the election, so. Praise God, Trump won. My gosh. No kidding, man. Wow. But what I want to ask you is, you know, military recruitment's been super low. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
like catastrophic let's get ready to reverse and uh so what i want to ask is now we're going to get all this interest and uh of of young men that want to go into special ops units i mean i'm sure you get a ton of messages about those i do too and um And with the coming influx, because I'm sure it's going to happen now that the, now that it's... Commanding chief's a worthwhile person.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, exactly. Now that we have somebody that actually backs our military. Yeah. What advice do you have for somebody that's joining a team? Man. We always get a lot of people that want to know how to integrate into a team, especially at that level. What would your advice be?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Can you explain to the audience why you are three or four rooms deep?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Sounds like it. So let's move into your first operation where you got a kill. Let's move into your first kill. Yeah, I mean, that was...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We probably won't put that up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It absolutely makes sense. When do you think it flipped? Because we had to go because, obviously, it was at 9-11. For me? What point do you think that the U.S. interests in Afghanistan...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
When I saw what was going on there, that just solidified all the beliefs that I had. Yeah. You know, it was...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, and then they lie about it. Yeah, they lied. It was a drone strike.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
A drone strike to a car that was supposedly, was it the... Who did they think it was?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
USAID workers.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, they lied, told us it was an ISIS leader, and then it came out, no, actually, Biden, you just killed a couple of kids and some USAID workers. And it's like, oh. But nobody fucking cares, right? Nobody cares. Let's prosecute Gallagher. Yeah, that is – For killing a fucking – a real ISIS fighter that was actually ISIS and actually – Who was shooting at him not too much longer. Yeah, exactly.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And that's – Not a bunch of fucking kids in a USA worker.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I wouldn't disagree with you. But let's move into your sniper kill, the farthest one.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Is there anything notable on this deployment that you want to bring up?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Damn, man. How did the team kind of recover from that, or did they?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You had mentioned born-again believer, Christian. What does that mean?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Danny's is a seal, a team bar. Yeah, a team bar in Coronado.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Did you come to that realization upon your return home from that deployment?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Did you do another deployment after that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Let's talk about that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Let's get a little more descriptive.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
No kidding.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Oh, yeah. Depleted uranium and weapons on board and got two kills.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Shit. Well, what made you decide to get out?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I mean, you're just pumping out so much good into the world. And one of the few out there fighting literally the most evil shit that you can gin up. And that just...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Were you – I mean, did you have trouble reintegrating into civilian life back in with your wife?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You're the second person to tell me this in like a week, and I've never heard it before.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Wait, so what was the point? So basically— I thought maybe you were talking about going after poachers or something.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So you already had another law enforcement career as well by this point.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So then you started TSI, right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Right on, man. Right on. Well, Jared, let's take a break. When we come back, let's get into the trafficking stuff. I know everybody out there has to be just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world. And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter, some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign super bad. She's made two different appearances here on the Sean Ryan Show.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind-blowing. And so I've asked her if she would contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So it's gonna be all things terrorists, how terrorists are coming up through the southern border, how they're entering the country, how they're traveling, what these different terrorist organizations throughout the world are up to. And here's the best part, the newsletter is actually free. We're not gonna spam you. It's about one newsletter a week, maybe two if we release two shows.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
The only other thing that's going to be in there besides the Intel brief is if we have a new product or something like that. But like I said, it's a free CIA intelligence brief. Sign up. Link's in the description or in the comments. We'll see you in the newsletter. All right, Jared, we're back from the break.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We're getting ready to get into your nonprofit, but we started a pretty interesting conversation downstairs about, I had asked you if you were going to run for sheriff again. And you had said, if God put it on your heart, like he did the first time, And then I kind of cut you off because I want to talk about this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
When you say God put something on your heart or told you to do something or led you to a certain direction, I mean, what does that mean? How do you know it's God?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Mm-hmm. Yeah, so when I was a kid— Because I always thought born-again Christian meant you kind of went haywire for a little bit and then came back.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So what is the feeling? What is the feeling? Because I feel tugged into certain ways, too. I'm a believer. I've not read the whole Bible. I don't know Scripture, but I do. I feel like my faith is very strong. With that being said... That's a great—what is the feeling? So, you know what I mean? I mean, I just—maybe I got a thought in my head to go pour a drink right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's not from God. I haven't drank in two years, two and a half years. Yeah. You know, or I don't—
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Maybe that was a bad example. Maybe I want a new car. Let me ask you this. What was it, when you say that God put that on your heart or led the way or whatever to run for sheriff, How did you know? How did I know? What was it? So when I ran for sheriff— Was it a feeling? Was it a voice? Was it a bunch of signs that all happened at once? What was it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
are being guided along the way.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You know, it's never... Hit these little milestones or accomplishments or whatever it may be that align with what you think the goal is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Let me try to think of another example. Okay, yeah, yeah. Let's say... Those are things of vanity. So let's say... Man, this is tough.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
All right. That's what we do. Let's say you feel very compelled to help somebody. Maybe it's a... A lot of people feel tugged or pushed or moved to help somebody in need or maybe somebody that they think might be in need. And so...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that have been extremely generous and wanted to help maybe a heroin addict or maybe a trafficked woman or just anybody in need. And then you go down that road only to find out the entire thing was a fucking scam. And so kind of what I'm asking is – and that's happened to me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I'm sure that's happened to just about everybody where it kicks up a lot of resentment. And it's like, man, I've – I thought this was what I was supposed to do. So kind of what I'm asking is, how do you differentiate, or do you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Those were bad examples.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So how did Covenant Rescue Group come up? That was because you and your wife started that.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Not that there's anything wrong with that. I don't want to come across like there's something wrong with that. But one thing that does kind of captivate my interest is, you know, I've looked at a lot of these nonprofits, and I do want to say, too, it gets tricky in any nonprofit space, but there does seem to be a lot of
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I'm just going to say it, shit organizations out there that are in the combating human trafficking space that don't really do anything. And that seems to be kind of a mask. But why are so many of these nonprofits Why are they so concentrated on Haiti, Philippines, Thailand, Colombia, Venezuela, Sudan, all these places, but not here in the U.S.?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Man, I'll tell you, Jared, ever since I started doing this show and just, I mean, that's life stories is what... I'm best at, I think. And the amount of, especially guys like you and I, who've gone to special operations or the agency or wherever, I'll bet it's over 50% of them that I've interviewed that have dealt with some type of sexual trauma as a child, abuse.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And I'll bet it's 50% that have come out and said that on camera about their childhood. And then there's also a pretty big portion of the interviews where they've They've told me like, hey, I don't want to talk about this because it's been rectified. I've forgiven my dad or my grandpa or whoever it was. And so they don't want to. And these are men. These are grown men who talk about this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And I mean, shit, the episode we just did. On Monday with Dale Stark, he talks about it. Wow. Growing up in California and getting on the skateboard scene. So many men have come on and women. You know me, Park. You brought that up. It's alarming how – It seems to be more common than not.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So your model, you gift a law enforcement agency a one-day training package. And the only thing they have to do in return is give you access to... Let us do the child exploitation training.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Fucking genius, man. So you get in, you make friends with them, and then you teach them, you take them on an op, you turn it over. This is how you do it. That's it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Right on, man. There's a lot of money at stake here for those companies, Raytheon, Lockheed, Northrop Grumman, companies like that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Does that make sense? It does make sense. It does make sense. All right, let's break from warfare for a second and let's rewind. Let's go back to your life story. Where did you grow up? Grew up in Fremont, California, the East Bay, near Silicon Valley.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Who's the best chess player in the family?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
You're a Stanford-educated visionary who co-founded Palantir Technologies, a company that's become synonymous with big data and analytics, helping governments and businesses worldwide to make smarter, more informed decisions. After Palantir, you ventured into the world of finance and founded Adipar. revolutionizing how wealth management works, making it transparent and data-driven.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Nice, nice. What kind of games were you into?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
How old are you?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Okay, so same age. So yeah, you grew up with Nintendo. Nintendo, Super Nintendo. Right on. Yeah, all that kind of stuff. Right on. What got you so interested in tech?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
No kidding. Yeah. What was it like, I mean, I don't remember what it was like back then, but Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Sachs, Reid Hoffman, I mean, were these big names in the space?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Of the nine U.S. defense unicorns, billion-dollar companies, you founded three and were one of the earliest investors in another three. You're deeply invested in education reform. You co-founded Cicero, an organization dedicated to advancing educational opportunities and policy to transform lives and societies.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
It's good to have you in there. After PayPal, you went on to build in social media. What were you doing in there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
What caught your interest in national security? It sounds like you made a switch there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I don't remember that at all. How long did it take you guys to solve that problem?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Your influence extends into policy with your involvement in 8VC, a venture capital firm that doesn't just fund startups, it pushes for policies that encourage innovation. You've been an advisor to leading political figures, advocating for a future where technology and policy work hand in hand to solve our biggest challenges.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
From a layman's term, it seems like it helps predict
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
You shape the ideas of the future with your op-eds and articles that often delve into intersection of tech, policy, and culture. You're a father of five kids. You just had your first son, and you've been married for eight years. Yep, that's right. Congratulations on your son. Thank you, Sean. He's not a second percentile. He's a big little baby. Yeah? Nice. Healthy boy, huh? Yeah. Well...
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
100%.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
man that's uh that's great to hear i don't have much trust in anybody in government but um there's some good ones every once in a while who really care and you just gotta partner with those you know becoming one of the top serial entrepreneurs in the 2000s i mean what are some what are some lessons learned you know when it comes to building companies you know
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I didn't ask this about your childhood, but I'm curious. Did you grow up in a fairly wealthy household?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Joe, I want to do a, I want to do a life story on you starting from childhood and get into all of your different companies and involvement, uh, with different things that you're in. But, um, but it just so happens that, uh, you know, I've been super interested in your company, Epirus. And, uh, I've had several conversations with your business partner, Grant for standing and, um, and, uh, love him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
How did you... How did you get going? You're talking about lessons learned and basically what you're saying is hire the best tech people there are. How were you able to find the capital to afford to bring that in?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Wow. What kind of percentage of ownership are your shares like?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Wow. How long did it take you to start? I mean, was there a turning point?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Man, that's super inspiring. So from Palantir, what was next for you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Amazing guy. But, uh, We got a situation going on literally right now in New Jersey with all these drones, and nobody seems to know what it is. So I just want to kind of start the interview right there. What the hell do you think these drones are? This is funny.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Very interesting. Very interesting. We're talking about all things pretty much AI. What is powering all this stuff? Because AI takes a tremendous amount of energy, from what I understand.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Do you know anybody that's working with cold fusion?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Can you go into a little bit of that? Because I don't think people understand why... cheaper energy would really help the economy and middle-class, lower-class homes. Oh, yeah. I mean, this is the cost of everything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
It was like two years ago, we're freaking out about a spy balloon traversing the United States from Washington all the way down to South Carolina.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Do you think that big oil and gas lobbyists have something to do with it?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I'm hoping. I mean, a lot of people, me included, are very concerned about our power grid. Yeah. And so I would like to kind of hang out on this subject for a little bit. Sure. A lot of people are seeing rolling blackouts. The power grid structure is extremely outdated. It's old. It doesn't seem like it's getting updated anytime soon. How much is our outdated power grid holding us back?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Are you concerned that China manufactures a lot of our energy equipment?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
That makes a lot of sense to me. Where do we start with updating the grid? We're talking everything from power lines to power plants to transformers.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
We read every review that comes through, and we really appreciate the support. Thank you. Let's get back to the show. All right, Joe, we're back from the break. We had a little side conversation about the incoming administration, and we're both pretty fired up about it. Who are you most excited about? Do you have anybody in particular?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I mean, how fast do you think they're going to start cleaning this stuff up?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I mean, where do you think they're going to start? You think they'll go from agency to agency? Will they do it in sections or will it be all one big sweep at different stages?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I assume it's ours because if it's not, that's insane. Why wouldn't they fly this over Area 51 or some testing grounds?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Yeah, I'm ecstatic that Cash got in there. I think he is going to do a phenomenal job. What do you think about Chris Wray resigning? Why do you think he did that? I think these guys are probably afraid at this point.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Do you think we're going to see some mass pardons?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I've never thought of that. Interesting. Well, let's move back into... I know we already talked a lot about Epirus, but I'm just fascinated with the subject. So how did that even pop up on your radar? What was going through your head when it started?
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Yeah.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Do you think this might be a distraction? From something going on in the Middle East? I don't know, maybe some... Some bad juju's going on somewhere else and they're just throwing these things up to distract everybody.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
So what would you point the weapon at? If you wanted to take out a, could you take out a city?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
What other type of stuff are these things going to be deployed on? Naval ships, I would assume.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Well, I mean... Drone warfare is becoming obviously very prevalent. Absolutely critical.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
100%.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
So, you know, people... One of the reasons I'm bringing this up is obviously I'm just extremely curious of what your thoughts are. But another reason is, I mean... You know, I've been reading reports on CNN. People are posting the neighborhood watch groups and the Facebook groups and stuff, and people are, they're freaking out. And what I find,
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
You had mentioned that Lockheed, Raytheon, Boeing, these companies, the big guys, you guys are underneath them. Do you see that flipping?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
You know, you had mentioned Facebook kicking him out because of a billboard. What do you think about Zuckerberg trying to get in with the conservative crowd? It's pretty interesting to watch the, you know, I mean, well, four years ago you kicked the president off your platform. Now you want to buddy up? Yeah. What's going on here?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Yeah, I see what you're saying. So you're basically saying he wasn't necessarily the catalyst, but he... He wasn't the George Soros.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
probably isn't a coincidence because I believe in a higher power, but you have, you founded Epirus. And Epirus is a directed energy, basically a directed EMP weapon. And it is, I mean, it seems to me from the reading I've done on it, it's... It's defense against drones.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
You're obviously a major player in tech as well. How have you kept that rot out of your companies? Yeah, you got to.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
That's a great way to put it. That's a great way to put it. Back to the future of warfare. I mean, what are some things that other countries are getting involved in that concern you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Shit. That wasn't even on my radar. What about technology? Are you worried about, is China developing anything that you're aware of that we should be concerned about? Or does Russia have any technology that they overplayed their hand, maybe?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Wow. Is there anything else you're aware of going on? I mean, that's fascinating in itself.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
That space thing blows my mind. I mean, if that happens, we're not up there already. And with that one meter thing, when you had mentioned you could stop anything else from coming up there, I mean, that right there is global domination.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Wow. That's fascinating. Let's go into Seronic.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Man, you are involved in so many things. How about Anduril? Did I pronounce that correctly?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
100%.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Yeah, yeah. Let's move into... Let's move into fighting for Western civilization and your efforts to combat, basically, wokeness. Yeah. When did you start doing that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
This is the thing to do right now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
And when I think of Black Lives Matter, I think of burning towns down.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
What is the magazine?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Man, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I mean, it seems like you guys are getting a lot of interest in there. I saw it was on 60 Minutes. What is the media saying? It sounds like there's a lot of trolls.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Man, I love it. I love it. Let's move into the Cicero Institute. Yeah. What is it? Cicero Institute is our policy group.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Amazing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Joe Lonsdale, welcome to the show. Thanks, Sean. Glad to be here. Man, I am super excited to talk to you. I've been following what you've been doing and a lot of your different companies for a while now, and... I know you're a busy guy, and I just want to say it's an honor to have you here.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
No.
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#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
That's amazing. That's amazing to hear. I also see you're involved in trying to fix the prison and parole systems.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
What else are you working on? That's a lot. I don't know. That's fun, man. I mean, how do you... You're involved in so many things. You've got five kids, you're married. I mean, how do you manage both the tech companies, the University of Austin, everything that you're involved in? How do you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
How do you recruit them? I'm curious because I'm trying to build my company out and I have no business sense.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Right on, man. Right on. Do you have anything particular, one of your ventures that you're the most excited about?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
So how many... How many drones could one of these, what do you call the actual weapon? Is it Leonidas?
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
congratulations you're doing just phenomenal things not only for the country but for the world and well i'm honored to be part of this stuff that all these other amazing people are doing too that i get to invest in and get to back and try to help because our man we live in an awesome civilization there's so many smart people doing so many great things here and we should be more positive about that you know i'm i am uh i'm just honored to have you here and and i'm so thankful that we met that you're an amazing human being who are three people you'd like to see on this show
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
At some point, you've got to get Elon on, of course.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
I'll let him know. But, Joe, it was seriously, it was an honor to have you here, and I hope to see you again. I really do. Thank you, son. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Wow. Wow. I'm just... So that gives us hope. So basically, all these drones in New Jersey, if we wanted to, they could deploy a Leonidas. Take it down that way.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Yeah, I mean, we just, I had a former CIA targeter in here just a couple days ago. We just released the interview now and actually yesterday. And she's talking about, you know, there are at least 1,000 very well-trained terrorists within our borders right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
You're involved in so much with technology, and also I love what you're doing with the University of Austin. I'd love to hit on that, but I really appreciate you coming, and I've been looking forward to diving into this for a long time. I'm excited to be here. It's an honor to be on the show. Thank you. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Do you think that they want something to happen for a particular reason? to start a war? It's possible. I mean, if they come in... Yeah, it's possible. And do another terrorist attack, then we go right back to war. That spins up the military-industrial complex.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
Yeah, you know, that's one of the things, that's one of the things I love about what you're doing is, you know, with the traditional military industrial complex companies, you know, we're shooting down $500 drones with million-dollar missiles. It's crazy, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
With a company like what you have, Epirus, it's not that way. It's an energy weapon.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
But everybody starts off with an introduction and we could go on for probably an hour here, but I tried to summarize it up here. Joe Lonsdale, you're a real titan of industry and innovation, a man whose journey from Silicon Valley to the halls of policymaking reads like a modern-day epic.
Shawn Ryan Show
#151 Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms
For those guys, that's funny.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source. It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world. And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign super bad. She's made two different appearances here on The Sean Ryan Show. And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind blowing. And so I've asked her if she would contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So it's gonna be all things terrorists, how terrorists are coming up through the southern border, how they're entering the country, how they're traveling, what these different terrorist organizations throughout the world are up to. And here's the best part, the newsletter is actually free. We're not gonna spam you. It's about one newsletter a week, maybe two if we release two shows.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
The only other thing that's going to be in there besides the Intel brief is if we have a new product or something like that. But like I said, it's a free CIA intelligence brief. Sign up. Link's in the description or in the comments. We'll see you in the newsletter. It's a new year and there's no better time to start sleeping better with Cozy Earth's best-selling bedding.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
really looking at it and um and so now you have the whole world listening and um i know there was some some some some attacks in europe at the christmas market sarah actually uh i wouldn't she told us that was gonna happen i don't know if you would call that a prediction or if that was just flat out that i mean Intelligence that's being brought to this show is coming to fruition.
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
There's been some more congressmen that have gotten involved with this. But even our two senators here in Tennessee, I personally spoke to one of them. to get this pushed because it got stopped at the Senate and it just fell on deaf ears. It fell on deaf ears. Our Congress here, excuse me, not our Congress, our Senate here, our government is not taking this seriously.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And these senators, these congressmen that aren't taking this seriously need to be held accountable. And so I would urge the audience to pay attention to what your congressmen and what your senators are doing because if they don't take this stuff seriously, as we saw on January 1st in New Orleans, people are going to die. They're going to die.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And moving back, just rewind in just a minute back to the terrorist, the follow-on attacks, and you were talking about the kind of the Second Amendment here in the U.S. and how that could play a role in stopping attacks as they happen. Do you think that
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
or maybe do you know, not do you think, do you know if these terrorist organizations, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Taliban, Al-Shabaab, the Islamic Brotherhood, I believe that's what they're going by now, do they take that into account in their intelligence gathering? Do they look at
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
this country does not is that its citizens are unable to defend itself this state has very strict gun rights or no gun rights they're not able to defend themselves don't go to tennessee where where everybody here carries a gun to defend themselves do they Are they aware of that and do they take that into account?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You're talking about the states that have defunded the police. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
They're in tune with us.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And they take that into account.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And now that people know that, people are paying attention. And so I know that takes a lot of courage to come out here and be on this show. And so thank you for being here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Interesting. Interesting. You know, I've thought a lot about this, and not only with terrorist organizations, but also the Iranians, the Russians, the Chinese. I mean, in my opinion, it would have been... not in their best interest to attack under the Biden administration, because the weakening of the country is just happening at such a rapid pace. And I try to think like them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And so if I were them,
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
i would have waited until that election happened to see who was going to win to see if the country would continue to weaken and if it had continued to weaken under a harris administration which it would have uh with the open borders with the immigration policies with the with basically just the negligence that we saw throughout throughout the entire country and and in the world if i were them i would not have attacked until
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
until a stronger president comes into power. Because at that point, the weakening stops and it starts to strengthen. And so what I thought they would do is they would hit us at our weakest point, which they did on January 1st.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And keep infiltrating.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And just a quick introduction. Today, we're going to hide your identity. We'll call you Jane Doe, due to the nature of your work combating terrorism. Again, welcome to the show. You're one of the leading experts in the world regarding the Al Qaeda terrorist network. You're an ISAF veteran and former intelligence analyst. He completed multiple tours in Afghanistan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Sarah had mentioned that there is at least 1,000 terrorists that have infiltrated the United States. I'm surprised that it's not more, but it sounds like that Sarah only reports facts or gathers factual information. And so I'm curious as to your insight, are there more than 1,000 confirmed terrorists that have set up sleeper cells within the United States?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What do you mean by facilitators?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So they will find these facilitators at those protests.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So these thousand, these thousand plus that are confirmed to be within the United States borders, Are they grouped together in pairs? Are they singletons all throughout the United States? Is there a thousand different locations that all these people are at and those are the facilitators? Those are recruiters, those are facilitators, those are planners on future attacks?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Or are they grouping up in 10 different places in 100? Are they grouping up into... 20 different places of 50, or do you understand what I'm saying?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do we have any confirmations of where they may be?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Thank you for sitting down with us today. This conversation is going to help a lot of people. And this is from Sarah. I was texting with her this morning. And so... A lot of people have a lot of faith in Sarah Adams and what she has to say because things are happening that she said would happen, multiple things, both overseas and here. And so she texted me this morning. She said, Jane is humble.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Why are they formulating these narratives? Why don't they just call it for what it is? Is it to try to contain mass hysteria or try to contain fear throughout the population? Or... is it they don't want to bring light on terrorist organizations or what why are they coming up with these narratives
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's basically to save the wrong power. They don't want to talk about it because they don't want to be removed or elected out or removed from power. So they want everybody to know, hey, it's safe. This is just a one-off. This is a spinoff. This is nothing to be worried about. It's just a coincidence that this happened. They don't want the fear to come. They don't want to...
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
They don't want to reveal the truth of what's going on because if they did, they would show how incompetent they actually are in office.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
We saw that. We've seen that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's an ideology problem.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Well... Well, you know, I'm... i'm really concerned i know every time i cover this more and more people get concerned i'm actually extremely concerned that sebastian gorka took the director of counter-terrorism role here within the united states the guy has zero background i don't know why he was placed in that position he doesn't know what he's doing and uh hopefully somebody
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
more competent takes that role like Scott Mann or Sarah Adams. Speaking of Scott Mann, Sarah Adams, this is another, I don't know if I'd call it a positive, but I just want the audience to know that there are people out there that are that are trying to reach local communities. I know you're a big part of this. Scott Mann, retired Lieutenant Colonel Green Beret out of Special Forces.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Sarah Adams, former CIA intelligence analyst and targeter. I know you're involved in this. You guys are coming out with a book called The Gathering Storm. And Scott Mann and Sarah have been flying around the country
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
to anybody that will listen to what they're trying to to to what they're saying to try to prepare the local communities as our politicians continue to fail in fact they're coming here to my county to brief an entire panel at our sheriff's department uh i talked to the sheriff they're coming here we're having we're actually having a panel here coming up on on everything that they've uncovered
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
But you not only have the number one expert in the world right now on AQ central leadership, but she has completely infiltrated them. What is in her head will save lives, no doubt. Have a great interview." And so if Sarah says that, that carries a lot of weight, not only with me, but to this audience and as the audience grows more into the global scale.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
and um and along with with you uh what you've uncovered because i know they take everything that you have uh very seriously and so so that's what they're doing but but and and so sheriff's departments police departments lots of uh local governments uh very small communities are they're listening as our federal government state government continue to to fail us.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And so can you talk a little bit about what the Gathering Storm operation looks like and what exactly it is?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You don't? No, we don't. Even after what happened at the Christmas market, nobody's listening?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You need to move here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Well, I can answer that question right now. What if you're wrong? Well, what if you are wrong? Well, then we're all better prepared for what might come. And you're right. What if you're right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Which January 1st proved that you are.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You've infiltrated all of these terrorist organizations, number one being al-Qaeda, correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How did you do that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, it seems that the local Afghan populace is obviously very concerned. They made a lot of headway when we were there and now that's completely demolished. And then, you know, another thing that Sarah told us is that Hansa bin Laden is still alive, even after we reported that apparently he was dead.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And so it's to my understanding that Hansa bin Laden is marrying into all these different terrorist networks. He's married into the Taliban, Al-Jabab, Al-Qaeda, all these terrorist networks to form the Islamic Brotherhood. And so now he's basically taken, would you call them competitors?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
He's taking competitors and he's united them all with one common goal being... Yeah. ...being to take out the West.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
They do. Why are they hiding that? I believe so. Why did they try to hide that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
MI6 reported him alive. Am I correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What other countries' intelligence organizations are now reporting that, revealing that he's alive?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Real quick, NDS is basically, was basically the Afghanistan's version of MI6 or CIA. It was their intelligence. It's their intelligence organization. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Wow. Wow. Wow. Do you think that... We'll get more into Hansa here in a bit, but one thing, too, I just want to say that we spoke about the gathering storm. Look, this is the best of what we have right now, and it's coming from a former intelligence targeter, yourself, former current intel analyst, Scott Mann, retired Lieutenant Colonel Green Beret. We're going to link that below. This is...
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Right now, this is pretty much the only way to prepare yourself, your community, get that to your local leaders. We'll link that below for everybody to take advantage of. It's not even out yet, but I'm not sure when it releases, but it will be very soon. I spoke to Scott last night and he said he's finished with it. One more thing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Before we move into all the other stuff that we're going to talk about, do you think these terrorist organizations will start to target specific individuals, much like what we saw with Joe Kent's wife, who the former DIA intelligence officer, a really good friend of mine, Scotty Wertz, was killed in that. He was protecting her, and they targeted them at a restaurant, made a car bomb, blew them
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
killed him with a car bomb and do you think that we'll start to see individuals within europe within the united states will there be individual targets or will in addition to mash casualty events
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Meaning cartels?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Why would they target an individual like Elon Musk? Is that for the press or do they have something personally against him?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And the economics, why would they go after somebody with economics?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do they have a history of this? In my time in service, I don't remember seeing a gross amount of information saying that individuals would be targeted. It was always locations like coasts. The station at Kabul, Kandahar, you know, the black base that was down there. I mean, I've never, I can't say never, but I don't recall seeing individual targets. Is this a new thing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Well, we've got a lot of different subjects to dive into. First, everybody gets a gift. It'll be the only light part of the interview that we have here. So here you go.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So it was a longer play.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Why does this all stem in Afghanistan? Why is this not stemming more in Yemen or Iran? Why is Afghanistan such a key country for festering terrorism?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So, how are they communicating? How are they, how are the, it sounds like all of the leadership, excuse me, all of the leadership is within the Afghanistan borders, correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And so now that it's a safe area for terrorism, how are they communicating with their leadership throughout Europe and in the United States?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
They don't trust... So, they don't have a digital footprint.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
This is all...
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What kind of message, like signal, protein?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Right on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Wow. And so all of the thousand-plus that have infiltrated the United States, the thousand-plus that have infiltrated Europe, none of these entities are communicating with each other within the borders. It's all coming from Central Command, which would be stationed in Afghanistan. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
and uh and they're made here in the usa so uh those are hard to come by as we're sold out again but and then the other thing before we do uh start the interview i have a patreon account patreon's a subscription network and so one of the things we do they've been around here forever uh since before i even started this show i used to teach tactics
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
They don't know what each other's doing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You know, myself was... So the only way that it could get leaked is by two points. The single point within the United States and the single point within Afghanistan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
They couldn't. So basically, for those that don't understand what I'm saying by compartmentalization is if let's say that the FBI raids a sleeper cell within the United States, that sleeper cell will not have any information when it comes to what the other 999 sleeper cells within the US borders or within Europe's borders is doing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
The only way to infiltrate it is at the head, which would be in Afghanistan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What is your experience with them?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
The organizations or the individuals?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I haven't. Who is that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And what are these lobbyists doing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
which is weird saying that seeing what this has developed into. But one of the things that I do for them is I offer them an opportunity to ask each and every guest a question. They've been with us here since the beginning. They're the reason that I get to sit here and the reason that you get to sit here. And so this is kind of the least I can do for my community.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
But I want to get into more about Al Qaeda. So what are some of the leadership changes that you're seeing within that organization right now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And so this question is from Kyle M. When dealing with a threat such as a VBIED or any other explosion, mass shooting kind of event, what are the proper precautions to take when analyzing for potential secondary attacks? And then there's a follow-on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Are you serious? The people that the U.S. trained?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do they have different tiers within the organization? Do they have like how U.S. military is set up? They have tier one organizations being Team Six, Delta. They have conventional forces, the infantry. Is it broken up like that into tiered units?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Such as more shooters and secondary explosions, how does someone know whether to stay, fight, help the wounded, or retreat to a known safe location until the chance of a secondary threat is greatly mitigated?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
We're going to start seeing that everywhere.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Have they ever been more effective than they are now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, it's all our equipment.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's all U.S. equipment.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I was going somewhere. I'm trying to regain my train of thought. The info that you're putting out is just... It's hard to keep a thought. It's hard to keep a thought. Can you explain what the Islamic army is and who all is involved?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I really appreciate you coming. Sarah Adams, a really good friend of mine and repeat guest on Sean Ryan Show, connected us about a month ago, I think. And so I know you're traveling from overseas. We'll not say where, but she says that you are the world's leading expert on Al Qaeda. And I've been talking to Sarah, Scott Mann, legend.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
That's on the outline.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Something that's on, speaking of the airlines, and I'm switching gears here a little bit, a couple things. I want to talk about the invisible bomb that Sarah Adams has been discussing. We've talked about it several times. In fact, there's a really good discussion on it on our X Spaces. I think that's what they call it. But I want to talk about the invisible bomb.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And I also want to talk about, let's start here. Scott Mann obviously has a lot of sources and is really tied in with this stuff as well. I know I don't want to mention any names who he's involved with. I don't know if I should or not. I think it's okay, but I'll keep that quiet. But he's really tied in with...
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
some of the people that were in nds uh as i mentioned before nds is the the was the afghanistan's version of cia mi6 it's an intelligence organization and he got reports that they are um al-qaeda these terrorist organizations the islamic army is predicting 50 to 60 000 casualties within the United States alone. We talk about 9-11 was a $500,000 budget. Now we're sending $40 to $87 million. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You know. Is there any, through your network, have you heard anything about 50 to 60,000 casualties?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What kind of services? Power grid? Those type of services? Water? We're talking police departments?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Let's dive in a little more specifically. Let's talk about the economic impact. How would that affect the economy?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Man, I didn't even think about that. I did not even think about that. So the hospitals will be overflowed. The first responders being the police, that will be completely taxed. There won't be enough of them to go around. We already talked about proper allocation of resources, which would be extremely hard to do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You know, so it's... Let's talk about the invisible bomb. Are you familiar with this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
A dog can't sniff it. So this could easily get onto airlines, pretty much anywhere that doesn't have the body scan machine, which most, I don't know how many airports have that now, but I think it's pretty safe to say that
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Even some large airports don't.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I mean, even airplanes, I mean, that would be devastating. But, you know, we're just talking airports. What about major arenas, stadiums, concerts, football games, baseball games, hockey games, speaking events, hospitals, schools? I mean, the list goes on. Nobody has this type of technology except the major hub airports within the United States,
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Even some major hubs haven't even implemented this type of technology with the body scan yet.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How big is this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Is it about, I mean, how thin is it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What kind of devastation are we talking about?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Could it, I mean, could it, would it, could it take a building out?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Okay, so it wouldn't be like a VBID?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It wouldn't be as devastating as the typical... suicide bomber that wears a vest no be a somewhat of a i don't want to say minimal explosion but compared to what we've seen um overseas with with a vest full of explosives or a car full of explosives it wouldn't
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So even the fragmentation is not detectable.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Could it be used to initiate something larger? You know, a lot of explosives, you need an initiation to detonate the actual, the bigger explosive. Could this be used to, could they daisy chain it? Yeah. You know what I mean by daisy chain?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Could it be connected to others?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Is anyone listening to this stuff?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Going against the narrative.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yes, I read in your outline that 22 of your assets have been murdered.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Are you serious? Yeah. They were burned by American three-letter agencies? Yes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I have a feeling this question comes from Kyle Morgan, who was a prior guest on this show, former Delta operator, U.S. Special Forces. And he responded to a terrorist attack, I believe it was al-Shabaab, at the Radisson Blue in Mali. And... I can't remember exactly how long the gunfight was. I believe it was like a 16-hour gunfight slash rescue mission.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, I'd say. Do you know how the agencies are burning the assets?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Jeez. Jeez. Man, it's just gotten so bad. It's gotten so bad. so we talked about simultaneous attacks do you think that is there any intelligence that's saying that that all of these different sleeper cells will attack at the same time or will be a couple here a couple there and just date is sprinkled throughout years or will it be all at once
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So they'll do it on the fly.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
For the audience, human is human intelligence, meaning it's coming direct from humans.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I think one of the most alarming things that you mentioned is that there is no There will be no SIG intelligence, it sounds like, because of the couriers. And so, you know, when I was in, when we were working over there, a lot of it was intercepting cell phones, communication devices. We were able to intercept those text threads, those conversations, those emails.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And now that they're using couriers, it's only down to human, it sounds like.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So China is behind? It's kind of assisting.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How much of the Islamic Army's funding is coming from the minerals that we, well, I guess we didn't give up, that China took control of? I mean, I know there's been negotiations between China and Taliban over the lithium mines. Afghanistan's very rich in lithium. We obviously, we... We just left it to them when we withdrew from Afghanistan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How much income are the terrorist organizations receiving from China to build these lithium mines?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And when nobody else would answer the call, it was him. And I know that that still haunts him to this day. And now with the threat that we face here in the U.S. and also in Europe, I know this is on everybody's mind. So just to kind of expound on his question here, you know, what... Is there anything that, so let's say it was a IED, a bomb. In my experience being overseas in Afghanistan, that was
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
$500 million.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So less than what the U.S. is funding just in cash.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How does Russia fall under this? I mean, we're obviously... not friendly with Russia as the Russia-Ukraine conflict continues. However, we did see, was it ISIS-K that did the attack on the Russian mall? And so are the Russians, how do I say this? Are the Russians, well, we know China, this, this,
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
We know that China obviously benefits from what the terrorist organizations plan on doing to Europe and the West, being the U.S. Does Canada fall into this at all?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What about South America and Central America?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
No. Okay. So what is Russia's stance on this? Are they taking precautions? I mean, they took a big hit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Well, there was multiple shooters there, wasn't there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And the casualty rate was a lot more.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I mean, they tortured those guys. They tortured those guys that shot those people at the mall.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
wouldn't say all the time but in several cases it was an initiation uh with a follow-on attack of shooters would that would you say that if in a ied a bomb went off in a location it would be could you expect shooters to come are you picking up that kind of Yeah, I think so.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What are they?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How were these guys convoluting with the cartels? You kind of mentioned that earlier, that they had close ties within Mexican cartels.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How long have they been convoluting with cartels?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, they're good at it. They're good at it. What are, what would Al-Qaeda, what is their long-term plan? What is their short-term plan? On top of that, Is it the same long-term, short-term plan for not just al-Qaeda, but for ISIS, for al-Shabaab, for Taliban? Is it all one plan?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
To take over an entire country.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
They just did it in Afghanistan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do you have any idea what country they plan on conquering, taking over Afghanistan?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How much influence do they have within more well-to-do countries throughout the Middle East and East Africa? Do they have influence in Saudi Arabia? Do they have influence in Oman? Do they have influence in United Arab Emirates, countries that are wealthy countries?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
We even flew all the way to Vienna to interview Massoud, who's the leader of the National Resistance Front. Kind of took the torch from his dad. who was assassinated by bin Laden just a few days before 9-11. And we've been trying to get out, you know, what Taliban, what al-Qaeda, what ISIS, al-Shabaab, all these terrorist networks have been up to on the show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What about... western asia or actually any asian countries do they have influence there just i'm trying to get a overall picture of how much influence they have throughout the world so south america central america we know they're among the cartels let's go to asia
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Can you name them?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And this is the long-term plan?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So the taking over countries is a short-term plan?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Okay, so it would be to, it's a diversion.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's a diversion with mass casualty event and then a follow-on attack somewhere else in the city or throughout the country.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Let's move into the caliphate. Can you explain what that is?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Break it down a little bit more basic with the caliphate.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What is it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So it's basically a global-type government that falls under Sharia law.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
That's what they want. That's the long-term plan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Like China.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
In their eyes, what... What constitutes a takeover of a country?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Where do they find, what is successful in their minds when it comes to taking over an entire country?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's not necessarily planting a flag.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's how much influence they have over the government.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Are you serious? Mm-mm.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You brought up scientists and innovation just a few minutes ago. What kind of innovations are they doing right now other than this invisible bomb?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So we're potentially facing biological warfare as well.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What kind of biological weapons?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Viruses?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Where?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What was the outcome?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's working. What else are they innovating?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Thrones and biological warfare.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I don't know how you would handle that. You would have to be very smart about how you allocate resources or have at least a team, maybe a SWAT team or two SWAT teams sitting behind to respond to a follow-on. Do you think we'll see that? So that doesn't just apply to bombs. That would apply to any attack. It could be a diversion.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Let's talk about a little bit about the role of Turkey.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Wow. These guys' network is a lot bigger than I thought.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
GDI. Can you explain what GDI is?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So the GDI is the Taliban's version of CIA?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It's an intelligence organization, the Taliban.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
the people who are talking and... So is GDI the intelligence service for not just Taliban, but Al-Qaeda, ISIS? Yeah. So it's basically the Islamic Brotherhood's intelligence service.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It covers, it top covers all of these terrorist organizations.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Where is their headquarters?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What are the departments? How is the GDI broken up?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How long has the GDI been around?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So they have operatives inside the U.S.?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And in Europe?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What are they doing? Are they conducting surveillance? Are they infiltrating media? Are they... What... They're lobbying, obviously.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So the operatives are also developing assets and creating their own networks?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How effective are they compared to an organization like CIA or MI6?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
In what?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
So when they recruit an asset, are they paying the asset, or are they threatening the asset? Oh, they do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, nor can you carry a weapon.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What have we not covered yet?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What is U.S. intelligence's relationship with Taliban?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do you think that Europe is a lot more vulnerable to this than the United States? Oh, absolutely. Do you think they'll start there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Back to the GDI. Okay. I forgot to mention this. Is the GDI still holding American hostages? Yes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How many?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
This is verified?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do you know where he's being held?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What are their plans for this? Are they planning on using our hostages as negotiation? Oh, yes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Who are the other two?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Are they torturing them?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Why are they torturing him? What do they want to get out of that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What kind of negotiations do you think they'll initiate with our hostages?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I mean, it's going to be a lot harder to, if we were to go back there, I mean, we've burned all of our allies. Who would come work with us?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And to your knowledge, has there been any attempts to recover our hostages?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Is it even being discussed?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do they have any European hostages?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How many European hostages?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
26 European hostages. And is Europe doing anything to recover the hostages?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, I hope that we stop funding the Taliban.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Are the Europeans even aware that they have hostages?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I have to say this on every show, even though every time we talk about this, even on other shows, when I interviewed Donald Trump, when I interviewed J.D. Vance, I talk about it, but we are currently funding the Taliban, according to legend, Sir Adams and Massoud. The U.S. is currently funding Taliban $40 to $87 million a week. flown in as cash into Afghanistan through NGOs.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Is Europe doing anything to combat what's coming to them?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How would they begin?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
How would you define politicized intelligence?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Jeez. I've heard this a couple times. I've heard it from... Congressman at different events that the agency has reached out and told them to stop, just stop talking about it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Cease the conversation. This is done.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, yeah. Out of everything that we talked about, What do you think that the biggest threat to the incoming Trump administration is when it comes to terrorism?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And it was to my understanding, I believe, since the Afghan withdrawal, the Taliban has set up over 900, and this is even six-month-old news, so I'm sure it's more than that, over 900 NGOs, kind of facade NGOs that just funnels the money right back into the terrorist organizations.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Do you feel we have any good chess players coming in?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I got a lot of faith in Mike Waltz. He's the incoming National Security Advisor and... I hope he's paying attention. I know he is, but he's got a big job to fill. And two more questions before we end. I already think I know the answer to the one, but is there any possible scenario where we make peace with these organizations?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
What recommendations, and this is the last question, what recommendations do you have for the Trump administration? What do they need to fix first?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
And it's been really, really hard to kind of get people's attention. The mainstream media just refuses to cover it. I don't know why. And unfortunately, it took the attack on January 1st of 2025 this year to kind of get people
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Yeah, me too. Me too. Me too. I don't know exactly where we would start, but... Everything seems reactive now. I think where we would start is prepping the local communities and getting them up to speed on this and allocation of resources, hardening up school security, hardening up arenas, hardening up stadiums, figuring out how we detect these invisible bombs. I think those would be the...
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
In my opinion, those would be the first steps on what we need to do to start to secure this country.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Instead of waiting until the next one happens and then you get that local community ready when it's already going to be somewhere else. And so I think I'm with you. The administration needs to get the local communities to be more proactive. There needs to be more funding. Yeah, you know, I lied. I said there was one last question. I have one more.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
We just saw these wildfires in California, specifically in Los Angeles. i remember correctly al-qaeda said that they would burn our cities to the ground yeah is there a possibility that that have you let's take all speculation out do you have any intelligence from your assets your sources that that was instigated by terrorism
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
Did we see, did we discuss the strategy within the interview, a lot of it? Yeah. What are his leadership principles? What stuck out to you?
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
You hear that? Any U.S. politicians, any leadership in the country, 33 Strategies, you're going to send me a copy?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
It'll be translated? Yes. Will it be digital?
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
I'll put it in our newsletter when we receive it. You can download it for free. Have your staff read it if you don't have the time to. But sounds pretty clear to me that we need to pay a lot of attention to that book, that mastermind, 33 Strategies. Jane, thank you so much for coming. I really appreciate it. I hope the next time we run into each other, it's better news.
Shawn Ryan Show
#159 Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
What about, what about, I mean, Are they observant of other kids? Yes. And the work ethic? I mean, six years old, damn.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Damn, dude. I love what you're saying already. We're only like, what, 10 minutes, 20 minutes into the interview? Yeah. I mean, so— This is fantastic. I appreciate it. I'm serious, man. But, you know, something that you're describing how I think all the time. I think if I'm not working, somebody else is. They're going to be better. I think it came from the SEAL teams.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
If you're not training, the enemy's training, and they're going to kill you. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And I've carried this mindset into business. I've carried it into my whole life. And now I'm hesitant to... With that mindset comes a tremendous amount of pressure that you put on yourself. It can be debilitating. It's very... It's a life of stress. Oh, yeah.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
And so I've been careful on... I don't know if I want my son or my daughter to carry the amount of stress and responsibility that I feel that I have. And so... Do you think about that at all?
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
You're fat and happy. The next guy's training. Yes, the next guy's training. He's innovating.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
You put the pressure on yourself.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
That's fantastic. Well, we're going to get into your story, too. Sure. We've got a Patreon account. Patreon, it's a subscription account. They're our top supporters, and a lot of them have been with us since the beginning. And it's turned into quite the community over the years. One of the things I offer them is to ask each and every guest a question. So this is from Eric Alger.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
How do you handle the unseen pressures that come with being a young leader in a world that often doubts people of your age and background?
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
I guess, you know, they say if you don't have any critics, you're not doing it right. Correct. Well, got you a little gift. I'll get you some more for your kids. Sure. Sure. We just leaked gummy bears. Love it. I swear, some people just come on the show just to get those.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Yeah, I'm done.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
No, there's nothing weird going on. There's no cannabis. There's no CBD. It's just candy. You know, it's funny.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Got fans down there. Yes, sir. Damn, that's cool to hear. That's cool to hear. Well, I'm going to start you off with an introduction here. King Randall, you graduated culinary school at age 17. You were a former United States Marine, a leader in your community, and a role model and mentor for many young men, and you're only 25 years old.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Real quick, Albany, Georgia. Sure. High crime rate. Chance of being a victim of crime is 1 in 43. The Neighborhood Scout ranks in the top 100 most dangerous cities in the U.S., Yeah, that's Albany. Can you tell us a little bit more about, other than just statistics, what Albany is like?
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
So it's pretty neat. Right on. You know, we had a conversation downstairs about fatherhood, and it sounded like maybe— I don't know, maybe your audience. It sounds like the way you raise your boys is maybe a little controversial.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
What was it about your childhood that just got you into this? I mean, you started, was it 17? Yeah. Professional chef? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're only 25 years old. Yeah. What was it about your childhood that motivated you to kind of start turning the city around, becoming basically a father figure to all these people? Yo, man.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Every single day? Every single day.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Yeah, I was 19. So basically the motivation— Came from your grandmother.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Telling you, you need to finish what Dr. King started.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Yeah, and he's like- When did you start this? I mean, when did you- Start baseball? I think it's, I mean, it's intense. Yeah. It's intense. Yeah. But I mean, I like it. I mean- You're pushing your kids to the limit, you know, at age six. And you're teaching them that, hey, if you want to accomplish something, it takes a lot of work. And, I mean, it sounds like we both can agree.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
I mean, you just see people today and they think everything's a fucking handout. It's not. You know, and they don't want to work for it. Mm-hmm. Very few people. So I mean, hold on. So when did this start? Does it start at age six? Did it start at four?
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
In 2019, you founded the X for Boys program to fight back against the high crime rate in your community by stepping up to mentor young men. This is the only rehabilitative program for juvenile offenders in South Georgia. That's surprising, man. In August 2022, you founded the Life Preparatory School for Boys, the first free all-boys boarding school in South Georgia.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
How did you decide that you were going to go after the younger generation? There was this one time where I did try to work with him. I'll tell you what's interesting. Go ahead, go ahead. What's interesting is it doesn't sound like you grew up in a poor, broken home. No.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
It sounds like you grew up in a very good home with good parents, good grandparents, maybe surrounded by people that weren't as fortunate as you.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
And so— Where did the vision come in? Is it who you grew up with that made you want to go after the younger generation?
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
20s, 30s?
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
How do you start out working with men at 19? How do you influence older— I mean, you're dealing with egos. You're dealing with people that don't believe you.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
King Randall, welcome to the show, man. Man, thanks for having me. Glad to be here. It's my honor. I love, love, love what you're doing down in Albany, and I've been really looking forward to this interview. Yes, sir. I appreciate it. You got a lot of fans in Albany, too.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Hmm. And how did you find 20 parents right off the bat?
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
How many hours a day were you spending on this? Nine to three. Nine to three? Yep. How were you making money? Did you have an occupation?
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
So nine to three, you're teaching kids how to grow food, how to do math, how to read, how to write. Yep. And then three to whenever you're basically an entrepreneur.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Do whatever you can.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
How fast did you get 20 people to show up to your program? Originally? 20 parents. How many kids?
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Did you think it was going to happen that fast? Nah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
You strictly volunteered, right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
It was 11 to 17 at that time. 11 to 17. So you're teaching, I mean, how do you, 11 to 17, that's a big range.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
I would say that's a success story. I can say it's success, but what I mean by success is— You definitely impacted hundreds of kids. Yes, I impacted them. Now, to the degree and what level they achieve in life, that's out of your control. But you've shown them—I believe you've shown them in—I mean, look— You've rerouted the norm. Yes.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
You've rerouted the norm or shown them that the normal path in Albany, New York can be rerouted and there is a whole other side of life if they choose. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And so, I mean, I would say – Oh, that's got to be a lot more than four.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
You've shifted the entire program from seven to nine? To seven to nine. Yep. So seven to nine or seven to 17? Oh, ages seven.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
I'm like, he has fun all the time. Damn, dude, most 25-year-olds, which are 25, most 25-year-olds don't even get this concept, I feel like.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
That's patreon.com slash vigilance elite. We talk a lot about generational trauma on the show and stuff like that. And I think, I mean, man, you gotta, you can't make light of
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
showing people that there is another option because people get they get stuck in the same cycle they see their parents in it they see their grandparents in it they see the people you know younger than them in it they see all the families around them in it and so even if even if you just have planted a seed you know in that community that shows them like hey
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
there are other options out there and i'm showing you look at what's happening here this is this is another option this is a way out of that generational curse that so many people are stuck in i mean don't make light of that man that's That's a big success story, even if it doesn't happen right off the bat.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
When you look back, even if it's 10, 20 years from now, I mean, you've planted the seed in there. They know. Yeah, I just critique myself a lot.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Are the parents pretty receptive to the information you're teaching them?
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
I mean, here's some stats that we got from you. 0.01% recidivism rate, 82% proficiency in general contracting, 86% increase in reading comprehension, 91% improvement in grades, and 93% proficiency in automotive repair. I mean, dude, this is a huge success. This isn't like... four wonder kids out of hundreds that, I mean, you got to give yourself more credit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Where do you think some of the problem stems? I mean, we talked about fatherhood at the very beginning. Do you think fatherhood is a major problem in that? Yeah, absolutely.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Wow. Well, I mean, with the lack of fathers, where are the fathers? Where are they at? What are they doing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
If fatherhood's a major problem, who do they find as role models?
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
So you're finding what these kids value.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
What, what, what, what, what, What they look up to by possessions or whatever, and you're showing them that they can get these possessions by taking a different route in life.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Damn, man. All right, let's talk about the life preparatory school for boys that started in 2022. Sure. This is a totally separate thing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
What is this?
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
The school's motto, Let's Make Men Reflect Your Vision. You earned the 2019 Larry Sanders Legacy Award, the 2021 B1 Education Award,
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
I think earlier you had mentioned you traveled to Nigeria not too long ago. What prompted that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
We're wrapping the interview up here, but do you plan on expanding your vision, what you're doing outside of Albany? Are you going to stay in Albany?
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
It's amazing what you're doing. And then I have another question. We've talked a lot about being a father, becoming a man. the lack of male role models in actually everywhere. And so I'm just curious, you really resonate with me, especially at the very beginning. And what do you think are the most important attributes to becoming a man?
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Pain is a gift for you. Yeah. You know, you said something else at the beginning. I think this is one of the most important attributes, if not the most important attribute. And, you know, be a man of your word. You say you're going to do something, you do it. You got to do it. Because if you're not worth your word, then you're not worth shit. Absolutely. And I think that is...
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
one of the main things, if not the main thing. Yes. Well, King, man, you are a very impressive man. I appreciate it. Thank you. I'm just so thankful we met. Me too. I hope to see you again.
Shawn Ryan Show
#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
I want to see you again.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Yes, sir. All right, King. Best of luck.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
Thank you.
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
and the 2023 dreamstone award from dr martin luther king jr's family yep wednesday tomorrow you'll be going to the white house yep and most importantly probably out of every not probably out of everything you're a father to three boys yes yes so man and you're a christian yes absolutely
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#182 King Randall, I - Rescuing a Lost Generation from Gangs, Crime and Chaos
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
Yeah, you know, nothing forms an alliance like a common enemy. And, yeah. So, Mike, second time you're on the show, and we're going to talk all about USAID here coming up. Here's just some stats that we kind of pulled up. Budget of over $44 billion, employed more than 14,000 people, two-thirds of whom worked overseas. Now we're down to 294 to 611 people after the Doge discoveries.
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
Operated in over 100 countries, primarily in Africa, Asia, Latin America, the Middle East, and Eastern Europe. I mean, list goes on. You know, one of the things that caught my eye, you know, is, I mean, like I said, there's just been so much that's getting unveiled. But I recently did an interview with Colleen Georgescu, who's running for president in Romania.
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
And the Romanian Supreme Court annulled the election and basically froze it due to COVID.
Shawn Ryan Show
#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
russian interference and um you know i got a lot of flack for that interview but i wanted to give that guy a voice because i thought this this really kind of mirrors very similarly to what we saw with trump not in the last election but the election before and you know georgescu called the tens of millions that were sent by usaid a bride wrapped as social aid and an attack on their sovereignty
Shawn Ryan Show
#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
So it sounds like this was kind of funded, this campaign against him and shutting him down was funded and instigated by USAID. Now, the Russian interference was never proven. It was all just speculation. But the USAID stuff is proven. And so it's interesting. We just did that a couple of weeks ago. And I'm curious what your thoughts are on this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
Mike Benz. Sean. Welcome back. It's good to be back. Man, I feel like we just saw each other. It was a couple months ago, wasn't it? Yeah, but the before and after picture is quite different. I know, man. Wow. I mean, the stuff that's being unveiled and all the corruption that's being exposed, I mean, we kind of chatted about this a little bit downstairs, but... This stuff is rolling out fast.
Shawn Ryan Show
#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
Yeah. I mean, it seems like Doge kind of started with USAID. How involved are you with Doge?
Shawn Ryan Show
#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
Yeah, you know, that's what caught my attention was it seemed almost identical with the Russian interference. And, you know, what actually blew him up was a TikTok smear campaign. And the TikTok smear campaign actually resonated with a large portion of the population in Romania, which boosted him up. I mean, the guy spent...
Shawn Ryan Show
#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
next to nothing on his campaign and had a tremendous lead and you know one of the things that I spoke with him about in detail is how he doesn't he does not want that NATO base there I did ask him you know will you be able to stop that he he he couldn't answer that um which means you know maybe he can't I don't I don't know but but it seemed like
Shawn Ryan Show
#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
The reason they went after him is because he does not want that base built, the biggest ever NATO base ever to be built in Europe to include World War II. And, you know, it obviously would be a detriment to the Ukrainian side of the war. And he expressed... many times he just wants, he just wants peace. He doesn't want Romania involved in that. That's not their problem.
Shawn Ryan Show
#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
I think that's the way a lot of Americans feel too. But, but so, so I think you, So basically what USAID is doing is they're influencing their politicians to sway a certain way. Are they also paying off their media? Because they wouldn't platform him. He was not heard other than on TikTok.
Shawn Ryan Show
#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
The day after I announced the interview that was going out with him, they had 250,000 people start protesting in front of their parliament.
Shawn Ryan Show
#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
I mean, how much of the world is influenced by USAID?
Shawn Ryan Show
#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
Yeah, I mean, what... I was going to ask this at the end, but I don't want to – it just popped in my head, so I don't want to forget it. But, I mean, you've really dove into the USAID stuff. And so once we get through all of the USAID stuff, which is what we're going to interview about today, what are you going to go at next? What are you going to start looking into?
Shawn Ryan Show
#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
I know everybody out there has to be Just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source. It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world.
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter. Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign super bad. She's made two different appearances here on The Sean Ryan Show.
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind blowing. And so I've asked her if she would, contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
Jeez, jeez. Where does the, so where does the directive come from?
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
So basically, USAID is a proxy arm for CIA, Department of State, the Bureau, DHS, all these type intelligence organizations. Yeah.
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
So how do they keep from having any oversight?
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
I mean, like, lightning speed here. Did you expect that to happen?
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
You know, I mean... I know we're meddling in a lot of elections and media and all that kind of stuff. I mean, I don't necessarily... Audience is probably going to kill me for this, but I mean, we do have to do that in certain situations. Would you not agree?
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
Yeah, yeah. Well, Mike, before we get too in the weeds here, you know I have a Patreon account. We've got a bunch of behind-the-scenes stuff on there. We've got behind-the-scenes interviews like what we just did with you. But one of the other things that I offer them is each and every guest that comes on, they get to ask a question. And so this is from Jimmy W.,
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
What warning signs should we look out for now that USAID has been shut down? What are the chances the Republicans will work against Donald Trump with Democrats to just start a new slush fund under a different name?
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
So that was my next question. It is important that we are involved when we need to be in media, in politics, in these companies. And so what I was going to ask is, How do we effectively do that now that USAID's pretty much shut down? And so is that what you're saying?
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
They would have to work deals with the international companies to employ – there has to be oversight over the companies that are being funded by USAID.
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
So do you think, you know, now that USAID is pretty much, you know, we've cut them off at the knees and we've established that it's pretty much gone rogue, I mean, do you think we're going to see any... I mean, what does it look like without them? Because they do play an important role, you know, in history and a lot of different things.
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
And so, you know, what are the ramifications going to be now that they've had their legs chopped off? I mean, what do you think some implications might be?
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
Yeah, I just see, you know, The pulse of America right now hates USAID. And while they are rogue, they do play an important role. It is stuff that we need to be involved in. You know, Venezuela, Iran, Russia, China. I mean, just to name a couple, we need to be involved in that kind of stuff and to... do kind of like what we're talking about to influence.
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
And so, it's just, at the meantime, you know, they've done a lot of corrupt shit. So, you had mentioned an organization, The Atlantic something, with seven former CIA directors.
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
Interesting. Interesting. Let's move into some domestic stuff with USAID. What is the relationship with USAID in our universities like Harvard?
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
How are they manipulating immigration?
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
Let's move into – I want to move into legacy media. How is USAID influencing U.S. legacy media? It does it in several ways.
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
Well, that makes a hell of a lot of sense. Wow. Wow. Well, Mike, I was going to cover terrorism, but we kind of did that earlier. And so kind of to wrap this thing up, I just want to ask, you know, what would you like to see happen with USAID?
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
I do. That makes a hell of a lot of sense. That makes a hell of a lot of sense. I actually, I hope that happens. Me too. But, Mike, thank you for being here. It's an overwhelming amount of information. And I hope to get you back again. Hope to be back. All right.
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#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
You know, I've heard you talk. I think we've talked about fruits. We've talked about meats.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Talked about fish. What about, you know, would I be wrong to say that you don't like your vegetables?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
So for... Try to dub it down a little bit.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Try to dub it down just a hair.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
I don't know anybody that would have a problem getting rid of vegetables.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Wow. Well, I mean, we've covered a lot of information here. I'm on overload. But, you know, what I want to— I didn't mean to break your brain. No, no, it's good. I'm going to—yeah, a lot of information in here. But what I want to get to as we kind of wrap this up is how do— so we've all been eating shit, basically, for damn near our entire life, if not our entire life.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
What—so— Is it reversible? Absolutely. So you move to single ingredient foods, move to high protein, high meat, fruits. Does your body cleanse itself? Absolutely. How long does that take?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Is there anything people can do to speed this up? We talked weeks, months, possibly a year. What about some of these things people are doing like plasma exchange?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Great advice, great advice. Well, Doc, I appreciate you coming in.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Yeah, I got a lot to think about.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
I've been making a lot of changes, and I can't wait to talk to my wife about some of this. How's your diet? It's getting better. Yeah. It's getting better. So, yeah. Have you heard of the Yuka app by chance?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
You know, I'm not saying that I buy off on everything either, but that got introduced to me, I don't know, maybe about six months ago. And the thing I like about it is, you know, it talks about all the additives and shit like that.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
So, you know, sometimes, like I mentioned at the beginning, you know, being an entrepreneur, being busy all the time, and a lot of travel and stuff. I mean, for somebody like me that's not educated in nutrition or the medical field, I mean, I think we talked about educating the public at the beginning. And I'm not affiliated with them. I would love to be, but I don't get it.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
anything out of calling them out. For me, it was a good start. You scan the barcode, and you see these things you think might be healthy, and you scan the damn barcode, and they rate it 1 out of 100. It's like, oh, this is a 15. It's like, oh, shit. I think it's a great way for people on the move that are busy to at least get somewhat of a handle on what they are consuming. And it will tell you.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
It's like these are the additives. These are the things that the additives are known to cause, you know, health deficiencies and diseases and such. And so it's really revolutionized my diet.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
I just look at the additives. Yeah, okay, yeah, that's important. I didn't look at, you know, it's like, yeah, I can scan my gummy bears and I know they're shit. You know what I mean? We'll make them better. We're going to make them better. But what I'm saying is, you know, it's... At least I don't have all the additives going into my body.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Once we get the additives out, then we'll move into some of the other stuff like what you're talking about.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
I'm not. You're the first person I've really dug into on this, and this has been a discussion. I just had Gabrielle Lyons on. She was saying that There is no proof that CO2 oils are bad for you.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
She knew she was going to get some flack from talking about that. But all in all, for people that don't have the time to do a deep dive study like I just did with you, I think it's a good start. I know there's a couple other apps. I think there's one called Bobby Approved or something.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Maybe I should make an app too. Yeah. I mean, it is helping people, man. It's helping thousands and thousands of people make more conscious, better decisions with their food, including me.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
No, no, it's all, no, that wasn't a hit. That's good.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Yeah. Well, Doc, I wish you the best of luck. I hope to see you again, too. I can't wait, man. Down in Costa Rica.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Dr. Paul Saladino, welcome to the show, man.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Dude, you got to connect with Laird Hamilton.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
I grew up in a farm town, man.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
We used to have this thing called... I can't even believe I'm bringing this up. There was a family that owned like, I don't know, the majority of the land in the county that I kind of grew up in. And they were hog farmers. And so they would have, every winter, they would have the testicle festival. That's amazing. And yeah, that was the thing. I mean, mostly everybody just got hammered.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
But out in the fields and in the barn and shit. But yeah, they would have this thing called the Annual Testicle Festival. So yes, I have had it. And then I'm sure of my trips overseas, I've had them and not even known it.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Yeah, he was great. We did. And he's all about being healthy. It's everything. I think you guys would really hit it off.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Yeah, what do you think derailed the research on the organs?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
I was going to ask you, sometimes it gets a little too conspiratorial for people to talk about, but it seems like it went off the rails back with, was it the Rockefeller family back in the early 1900s?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
I've been pumped about this interview, but before we get started, I'll give you the introduction and we'll go through all that stuff here in a minute, but you're living down in Costa Rica.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Yeah, yeah. You know, this isn't a gotcha question, but I am... You know, you've embedded with these indigenous tribes. I've been all over the world. I'm not saying I embedded with indigenous tribes, but, you know, the... We just talked before the interview all the places that I've been to from my prior career with the agency and SEAL teams and da-da-da-da-da.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Yeah, that dude, he's something else.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
But a lot of people in Afghanistan, for example, they live, I wouldn't say they live clean. They're burning tires to keep warm in the winter. But the life expectancy is like, I think it's like late 30s, early 40s. What is the life expectancy of the tribe that you're embedded with?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Great person, great person. But why Costa Rica? I mean, out of all the places you could go on earth to embed yourself in nature, why Costa Rica?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Makes sense. A couple more. So, man, I love this interview already, man. Thanks. So one thing before we get too far in the weeds, which we're already in, I have a Patreon account. It's a subscription account. They're our top supporters. They've been with us since the beginning, and I wouldn't be sitting here and neither would you without them. So one thing I offer them is I offer them –
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Every guest, they get to ask at least one question. Yeah, I love it. And you had a ton of good questions, but this one's from Daniel Walcott. Dr. Saladino, considering the numerous additives and preservatives that large corporations are incorporating into the meats available at grocery stores, are there specific types of meat or food groups that you would recommend we avoid?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Okay. I mean, how poisoned—a lot of talk about hormones in the meat and all this kind of stuff. How poisoned is the beef, poultry, pork section, fish section? You know, you can't even find wild-caught salmon. You have to order it online. Right.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
It has a lot of mercury. What are those fish again?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
How long have you been down there?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Man, I'll tell you another thing. When I moved out of the country, part of the reason I moved out is I just got sick and tired of listening to the politics and all that shit. That was a long time ago. It was over 10 years ago since I've been back. But just to be able to set that load down of all the – all the fucked up narratives and shit that's happening and everybody's pissed off in the U.S.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
So when we go to the store and it says grass-fed beef, can we trust that? Or does that mean, hey, this was fed grass the first six months of its life and then grain?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Why did you move to Costa Rica?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
I mean, I think the challenge with Americans, I mean, you're an entrepreneur, so you get it. You're a podcaster, you go on other podcasts, you have all your different companies with your beet sticks, your jerkies, your protein powder, whatever else you have. Yeah. I mean, it's time. It's time. And so my time, it's like every minute of the day is accounted for.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
And so going to the grocery store or going to the farmer's market and having conversations with the farmers and all that, it's just not ideal. Plus I have kids. Plus I have a wife. You know what I mean? And so... It becomes a challenge. You know what I mean? And so I think there's definitely a movement in America right now.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Everybody is kind of on to the FDA and the healthcare system and NIH and the MAHA movement has exploded. And, but I don't think anybody really knows like where the hell to go.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
about how the country's being run no matter who's in office and hearing everybody's opinion. And then you go to a place like Costa Rica or me, Colombia, and, like, nobody cares about that shit. And it's, like, you just don't hear any of that noise. And that was a huge relief for me, you know, to, like, put that shit aside and actually just...
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
I mean, I live out in the woods and so, I mean, we do have some relationships with different farmers and we try to source as much as possible, uh, from, from local, um, local shops that are, that are on the farm, stuff like that. But I mean, for people that live, people that live in the city, especially somewhere like, I don't know, LA, New York, Austin, I mean,
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Nashville, they don't have time to venture out an hour and a half out of town to go to a local farmer's market. No. So what do we do?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Is Whole Foods good? Whole Foods is the one that's owned by Amazon.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Okay, three out of five.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
be with myself, you know what I mean, without thinking about that kind of stuff. It's a, man, phenomenal way to disconnect.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
What's the highest quality grocery store out there that's a chain? Fresh Market. Is Fresh Market good? Is that here in Nashville? Don't tell me Fresh Market's bad. It's probably great. You've not been to a Fresh Market?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
We had them in Florida.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Rifle once. Okay. Bow three times. Do you hunt in Costa Rica? Are you out there killing hallamonkeys?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Yeah. I remember my first encounter with them. We were in a, we were in a doing op down in Panama. And totally got compromised because the howler monkeys started screaming at us. Anyways, then they know exactly where you are. That's the jungle, right? Yeah. I love it, man. I love being in the jungle.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
You're getting me all fired up about Costa Rica now. I'm going to go home and tell my wife about it. I can't wait. I'm excited for you guys. But, well, I mean... American health is, what, probably some of the worst in the world? It's pretty bad.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
I mean, more than 70% of Americans are overweight or obese and over 11% have diabetes. It's a crisis that's spiraling out of control.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Nice. Yeah, I lived in Colombia for five years, but I can't say, well, I did move down there for fun, but it got a little too fun, and I had to move back. But I spent some time in Costa Rica in my journeys down south, and man, what a beautiful place.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
It's pretty alarming.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Man, it sounds like just a little education could reverse this entire epidemic.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Well, that's what I was going to say. I mean, I love what you're saying about, you know, that maybe the government should step in and only allow. But, I mean, how are you going to get past the lobbyists that are paying politicians and news organizations to market? That's racist. You know what I mean? Because that's what that all stems from, correct, is the lobbyists.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
And so, to me, it seems like the only – Real explanation is to educate everybody on, hey, I mean, the marketing, I mean, there's a, I just watched a documentary about half of it the other day. Amazon was a big part of it. Apple was a big part of it. How the pollution is kind of, you know, it was talking about everything.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
It was talking about how the iPhones are, you know, designed to only last for a certain amount of time. And then you get the new one and it shows how they dispose the iPhones and the computers and how Amazon does their marketing and, and how it all goes in the landfills, back into the ecosystem, back into our food, what we're breathing. And so, I mean, the marketing gets tricky.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
So it can't even just be an education on nutrition. It's how these companies are marketing, which will constantly evolve. So they have to re-educate over and over again. And, I mean, you just said it yourself with the pasture-raised beef versus grass-fed. I mean... I mean, I didn't know that, you know what I mean? And I get to interview people like you all the time, you know?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
And so for somebody, even just a single mom out there that's just working her butt off trying to make ends meet so that she can feed her kids, I mean, she doesn't have time to listen to this. And so, I mean, I would think that
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Just my personal opinion and with how corrupt I know our government is, I mean, it seems like the only way to do it is to educate the people, and you won't even be able to educate them through a government program because the lobbyists will take the fucking program out of the educational system.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Was it pretty political down there?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
What timeline are we talking about? You've seen these reversals happen. Is this years?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
I heard, dude, I heard... I heard that if you got directions on Waze or ordered an Uber in California, there was like a warning that went out that was like, are you sure you want to leave your house? That shit was fucking crazy.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Interesting. Let's take a quick break. Yeah. When we come back, I want to hit you on your daily routine.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Cool. All right, Doc, we're back from the break. And I'm just curious, can you go through your daily routine? I'm just curious, how do you live?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
You put the organs in with the milk and the honey?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
So you're doing what, like two, three hours of work during the day? Four, four to five. Four to five hours? Max. That sounds fucking amazing. Yeah. I'm at like 12.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
But I don't have kids. I mean, how often do you eat the raw meat? We just had a raw steak downstairs. It was not near as bad as I thought. I mean, I like my steaks medium rare anyways.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Well, it's great to partake with you. But... Yeah, I mean, the four- to five-hour workday, I mean, that sounds – I get so much anxiety if I'm not working. Why? I don't know. I think maybe it came from training a long time ago. We always had this mindset of every time you're – messing around at the bar, playing around, the enemy's training, getting stronger, sitting here getting softer and weaker.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
And I don't know if that carried over into my entrepreneurial life or not, but I always think like that. I'm like, if I'm not working, somebody else is, and they're going to do it bigger and better and more efficiently. And so I am a workaholic to a fault. But it's something that I've been, I mean, I used to do 16-hour days.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
I mean, I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this. Do you drink?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Yeah. I've been off for almost, it'll be three years this Valentine's Day.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Yeah. Yeah. Thanks to psychedelics.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
So, I mean, obviously you're super fit. What are your workouts like? Are you, is it strenuous? Is it, you know, I mean, is it like, you said light movement in the morning.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
So you turn your hobbies into your workouts?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
What's your social life like? I mean, you don't drink. It doesn't sound like you go out to dinner very often. You cook at home. I mean, you know, that... really narrows the scope.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
So, I mean, what do you do socially?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
At home in Costa Rica.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Cool. Yeah. Cool. You talked about grounding. Yeah. In your daily routine.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
So I've been hearing a lot about grounding. I don't know exactly. I mean, I know walk barefoot on the soil and stuff like that. Why?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Wow. Yeah, but he— Something finally more important.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
So when you say grounding, what are you doing? Just laying on the ground?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Wow. Crazy. That's insane. That's insane. I— Sorry, we've got to talk more about Costa Rica. I think about leaving. The states. Yeah, I think about it all the time. Do you have citizenship down there? You can get it. I'm on a track to citizenship. So how does it work? Do you just go down there and buy a place? Yes. Is that American-friendly?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
You had mentioned early on in the podcast about EMF waves, and you turn your routers off at night, and you do an Ethernet cable to stay connected. Did you feel a difference coming off, turning all that stuff on, moving down to Costa Rica, getting into nature?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Cool. Yeah, I've been wanting to take my wife down there because she's coming down. But yeah, we will. We will. Her birthday's coming up. Maybe we'll do it then.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Yeah, yeah. So your place is, you're remote.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
If you thought about Using like a lead-based paint to block all of that?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
I didn't know that. Yeah, so... If you paint, because I thought about doing this, if you paint your entire bedroom with lead-based paint, I mean, you won't get a signal in there.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Yeah. Seed oils. Yeah, this is a good one. Seed oils is something I've been wanting to dive in with somebody for a while now. Let's do it. So what is it with seed oils?
Shawn Ryan Show
#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Yeah, yeah. Wow, wow. That's awesome, man. Well, let me give you an introduction here. Okay. Dr. Paul Saladino. Paul Saladino is a double board certified MD and host of the Paul Saladino MD podcast. You question our assumptions about health and the role of nutrition, which is controversial in modern medicine.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
You say that Western medicine fails to treat the root cause of chronic illness and doctors are only taught to treat symptoms with medications. You firmly believe that nutritional choices lie at the root of so many chronic illnesses that Western medicine says are irreversible. You stated the most chronic illnesses are preventable and reversible.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
You definitely walk the walk and practice what you preach, Paul. Welcome to the show. It's an honor to have you. And I have a gift for you. Okay. But you're probably not going to like it. I'm a little embarrassed to give it to you. I'm not going to lie. Honestly, I don't give it to any of the doctors.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
And then I had Dr. Gabrielle Lyons on the other day, and she got upset that I didn't give them to her. So I felt bad. So these are Vigilance League gummy bears. They're packed full of shit that will kill you. But they do taste pretty damn good, and they are made here in the USA. So if nothing else, there's a little keepsake for you because they are hard to come by.
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
I just crushed a whole bag of these downstairs. They're pretty good, huh? These are amazing. So, yeah, how long have you been doing this?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Do you think that this, I mean, does this stem from a centralized location or narrative, or is this mis-education, or what is this?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
Because... So there is a group that knows, right?
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#179 Paul Saladino - The FDA Approved Poison You Eat Every Day
It tastes amazing. And like I said, I'm being maybe a little TMI for the audience, but usually when I have that kind of stuff, like I start, when I burp, I taste it, you know, and it's like, I'll get like some hard burn or something, but I can tell by eating those that's not going to happen. I can tell. It's just real food.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
But let me give you a quick introduction here. Okay. You're a writer, professor of religious studies at the University of North Carolina, Wilmington. You have offered a series of books, including American Cosmic UFOs, Religion and Technology, Heaven Can Wait, Purgatory in Catholic Devotional Culture and Encounters, Experiences with Non-Human Intelligences.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So it's a realm.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So you believe in purgatory?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah, me too, me too. Does the Bible, is purgatory anywhere in the Bible?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
What is that called?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So I got another question for you. If it's not in the Bible, should we be paying attention to it at all?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Because there's a lot of like, and I can't really think of anything like off the top of my head. This is all kind of new to me.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You know, like you said at the beginning, I can't even remember if this is on or off camera, but you were saying. Most Catholics don't even know their own religion.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
But that's a lot of us. But which is kind of why, you know, part of the reason why I stepped away and started looking for other sources. But, you know, I've been talking to a lot of people about God, Jesus, the Bible. And, you know, it seems to be there's a lot of little – Things that different religions believe in that have absolutely no reference in the Bible.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You've been a guest on several prominent podcasts such as the Joe Rogan Experience and the Lex Friedman Podcast, and you've served as a consulting producer on the Emmy Award-winning Netflix series Encounters. You were also the religion consultant on The Conjuring and was featured in the J.J. Abrams docuseries UFO.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You spent your career teaching and writing about American religious history and Catholic history, including studying at the Vatican Archive. Sounds fascinating. Your research connects religion, technology, and now the enigmatic realm of the UFO phenomena.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Wow. Wow. Yeah. What are some of the things that aren't in the Bible that we should be paying attention to? Are you talking about like maybe that, what's that? Is it the book of Enoch?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Now you find yourself working with scientists and military personnel on the topic, something you never thought you'd be doing when you began your career, and... You're a Christian believer and a mother, probably the most important things, right?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Welcome to the show.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So everybody starts off with a gift.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay. I had to ask. asked a lot of people about Ezekiel.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
And it sounds like you have an explanation I'm looking for.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Can you go into that?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Please?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Thank you.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Something for the ride home.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
We'll give you some more.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Do you want a gun?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
A seraphim.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
We were just having a conversation right before we started recording, and I was going to start this interview in the year of 2012, but it sounds like you had an experience as an 11-year-old girl.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You know, some of this sounds like what some people would call a psychedelic download. Have you ever heard of that? Yes. What do you think about that?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So let's start right there.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Have you done psychedelics?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So you think these realms... I've done psychedelic works, psychedelic treat therapies, and it stemmed from mental injuries from service. But where I'm... I don't want to get into all the good, whatever. That's a whole other conversation. What I'm interested in talking to you about is the realm that you go to. Yeah, the realm is really real.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Do you believe it's a real realm or is it developed in your imagination?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Why do you think we should be careful?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Do you have specific examples?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah. When you're talking about other people that are reaching the same dimension or realm or whatever we want to call it, that are getting there without psychedelics.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
How are they—is this through meditation?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, I just, you know, I think we have a lot to learn in those realms.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah, I do too. And I've never actually had this conversation with anybody before, but... You know, I think a lot of people go back because there's so much positivity coming out of psychedelics. I mean, that's why I went back. But, you know, and... Man, I have so many thoughts going through my head. You know, the dimension or realm that it takes me to always scares the hell out of me.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
It's not necessarily a bad experience. I have a lot of... anticipation type anxiety when if i'm going to do it because i know i'm going there um majority of the experience been overwhelmingly positive i always learn a lot uh it's always a very uh an intuitive type experience and you know it's funny you mentioned you know truth and justice and things like that because you'll feel
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You might feel justice about certain events that have happened in your life that you didn't feel that you got justice from. You might get that coming out of those type of experiences. And then, you know, with the truth, I mean, I've had so many intuitive experiences about my family, my own life, my business, just lots of
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
It's almost like a download of information or a, hey, I need a new roadmap to my life. Let me strap in here real quick and figure this out. And there's just so many positive things coming out of it. But I almost feel like some of the things that you're talking about live in that realm. And so... should we be exploring that realm somehow, some way more effectively than the way we are?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
It's really weird. I crave it. I don't know if craving is the right word, but I don't know any other way to put it. I feel like psychedelics make you smarter. I really honestly believe that psychedelics make you smarter. smarter at accessing memories, smarter at navigating your life.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
It just clears all the shit up and gives you clear direction and where to go and new perspectives on past events and current events and relationships. But at the same time, I really... I have a lot of respect for the medicine itself. And so it's not, You're not going to see me at a party eating a bag of mushrooms.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
If I do it, calendar's blocked off. It's no kids. I take it very seriously. I don't mess around. I don't just do it on a whim. I put a lot of thought into why I'm doing it, what I'm going to do it, how I'm going to do it, preparation for afterwards. I'm not just going to come back to work the next day.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So if I'm going to do it, then I'm going to set it up to where I'm going to get the most out of the experience. But yeah, it's just interesting to talk to somebody like you about that. So I wanted to ask you about the, you've studied the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay, well, let's move into how did the interest in the UFO stuff even happen?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
How did they get wind of you?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
What was the turning point for you that made you think that this isn't metaphorical anymore?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Can you name one of the saints or maybe call?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
How do you know it was redacted?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So do you have the original transcripts as well?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Why would they redact it?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, I know it happens in government all the time.
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
It's standard. So are you saying that the Catholic Church just took a firsthand account and said, no, this doesn't align with what we think, so we're just going to change it?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
And then left the original transcripts in?
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, it's just interesting because then it's just—I mean, what else did the Catholics just change?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I'm sure it does.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah, I mean, it happens in all subjects. It's just weird that they're okay with it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah, we changed.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Sorry about that little rabbit hole there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah, yeah. All right, sorry. Sorry to interrupt.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Wakanda debris.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
What did the debris look like?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Metallic frog skin?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Do you have any pictures?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
How did you get access to this place?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Oh, okay. Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So Tyler, just so Tyler is a code name. Yes. Obviously some type of government official, right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Are you still tied in with him?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay. So what else was at this site?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
That's it? Anything else?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Interesting. Let's take a quick break.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
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#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
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Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
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Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
All right, Diana, we're back from the break. We just kind of went over your work with Tyler and Gary Nolan at the crash site. And I just, how was that kind of briefed to you? I mean-
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
It just sounds like, hey, we're going to take you to this site where a UFO crashed. Yeah, right.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So you've been— I read that you went to the Vatican with a, was it a NASA scientist?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
What happened?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
What prompted the trip? Let me start there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Wow, so you literally started at age 11.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Man, that's awesome. I mean, it's pretty profound for an 11-year-old to read the Bible.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Why – I've heard that the Vatican has, what, the largest observatory or the biggest telescope.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I don't know where you're at. We're talking about Ezekiel, angels. First I thought maybe we're going with we, I mean you. UFOs are spiritual entities. Then you're at a crash site and you pick up a chunk of metal and we're at the Vatican. So what are you thinking? What is this? What is all of this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Is it two separate things? Is there a spiritual entity and a nuts and bolts thing? Or where are you at?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You have to think about this all the time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah. Wow. Wow. Well, I know that—so as I mentioned, I grew up Catholic. Yep. And still go back every now and then. I've got a lot of questions. But— You started studying purgatory in 2012. And so could you describe purgatory for the audience, for the people that don't know?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So you're saying that your intentions for research might trigger a specific outcome?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So how do you differentiate the – I asked you if you believe there's a spiritual component and a kind of nuts and bolts type component. How do you differentiate the two? I mean, are they two – do they have any relation to each other?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I don't believe that anymore.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Why don't I? Through some of my own experiences and interviews and I just... It's impossible for me to articulate this, but I'll try. I... i think that you can you can believe or manifest or whatever you want to call it uh realities into existence i honestly believe i think i've done it i think other people that i know have done this i think that we know very little about consciousness and and
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I think that we may have the abilities to create our own realities, but we don't have the knowledge on how to do that. I think we get little snippets on how that could be done. But as far as like a full scope, I don't think anybody has a... Does that make any sense at all?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
With Neuralink?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Diana Posulka, welcome to the show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, so... You're a skeptic. You... Did you think that... UAP, sorry, I'm off on my timeline. Did you think that UAP activity when you went to the crash site was complete bullshit? Or did you think it was some type of a spiritual entity if you dove in and like had you looked into the Vatican stuff before you went to site?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay, okay. Did you believe it at that time?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So when you went to the crash site and you saw an actual chunk of metal that you believe came off of some type of a...
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So it didn't necessarily turn you into, it did not turn you into a balloon?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Did it, I mean, it had to have brought up some type of, it had to have brought up thoughts.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
If this is real, is it two separate, is it two completely separate things? Because then I don't think a chunk of metal is going to fall off of an angel.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
or a spiritual entity?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, what do you think about guys like Ryan Graves or I forgot, is it Jon Favre?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, what do you think about accounts, firsthand accounts like these guys?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Have you talked to any of the higher ups or leadership or clergy or whatever they call it at the Vatican?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
What do they say about this type of thing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I really want to know what you think. Do you think they come from space?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Hey, it's an honor to have you here. I've been trying to get you here for quite a while now and had a, man, I just got, I don't even remember the first person that introduced me to kind of what you're doing, but it's been, I've been getting hit from all angles.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Interesting. Interesting. You talk a lot about, thank you for sharing that, by the way.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
That's what I think. Not that I've done even a smidgen of the research that you have, but that's, I mean, it seems to be the only thing that could not leave a trace. And when I brought up, you know, kind of what I think about, you know, other realms and manifesting or praying into or whatever you want to say.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Uh, I, I think that the human mind, I think we've been indoctrinated to think that we have, uh, a lot of limitations that are not really there. And, um, and, uh, I don't know how we're going to break that. But you talk a lot about technologies. Yes. What kind of technologies are you speaking about?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Let's go with both.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
How would that change us? I guess that would be the ultimate truth.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, if you can see and read somebody's thoughts, then you know they're a true character.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Father Dan Rehill.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
What are you talking about with AI? What else?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
About social media. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
And the technology behind it. Yeah. What do you think people can do?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You know, when— is a sounds like devout catholic woman who's very well versed and uh all of this what what do you think about spiritual warfare is that what all this is all the stuff we're seeing
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I guess what I'm asking is how is this happening? Are people under some type of a demonic influence and that's how this is happening, you know, with kids?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So they thought that if they could handle being in a cave for 24 hours, is there anything substantial about this particular cave?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah. I kind of feel like most people don't realize they are under that influence.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I'm just trying to explore all of this stuff. But I think it's... I don't know. I'm at the beginning of this and kind of cracking this open in my own way. But, I mean, it's always been good versus evil, right? But it's just... The lines are becoming very blurred. And, you know, the thing is now that just... Nothing really makes sense to me that's going on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Some of the stuff that's going on with kids and I don't know where it is coming from. Do you know what I mean?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Some of these agendas just don't make sense. I don't know how many, I don't understand how many people, how so many people can get behind some of these just absurd agendas that are only even possible through technologies. And like sex changed. It's such a foreign, like how did that happen? And stuff like that, within kids. And that's kind of where I'm at.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
When you talk about some of this being structural, and it sounds like over generations and generations.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
You think that there may be families or—I mean, who holds the key?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Wow. Does he talk about how... I mean, so to pass on, to be... So what, are they born into the puppet master?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
How does this get passed on from generation to generation over thousands of years without ever being... Okay, so this answer was provided to me, actually.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Interesting. And so what? Does that person manipulate the king into— Some type of agenda?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay. Interesting. Very interesting. I know you've worked a lot with NASA or people inside NASA.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah, I didn't mean to say you've worked for NASA.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah. What are some of the – there's a lot of conspiracies around NASA. Does any of that ring true to you? What's your experience been?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
L. Ron Hubbard.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Wow.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Wow, that's interesting.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Like the president of the United States?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, can you be a little more specific?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Yeah, definitely, definitely. And I'm I've been really looking forward to this interview. You know, I grew up Catholic. I'm into UFOs. I can't wait to dive in here. So I've been looking forward to this for a long time. So I just want to say thank you for making the time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Hmm. Do you have any ideas of where this stemmed from?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Interesting. Yeah. Why would they carry on these traditions?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I don't know. I mean... Could have played devil's advocate here a little bit, but I was a SEAL. I was the agency. We had developed our own traditions. For example, in one of my platoons, we had a patch and it had a Spartan helmet on it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
and we we underneath the spartan helmet we put a we put a saying that the greeks used to the spartans used to say that said come home with your shield or on it put that in greek underneath and so you know somebody could probably look at that and go why did the why do these americans have greek writing under a spartan helmet because we because spartans were all badass warriors that
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
we aspire to be and and so we kind of you know adopted some of their traditions sayings whatever you whatever you want to call it it's it's it's really uh more of a uh morality type like a morale type thing uh to keep us going than than really anything else
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I'm with you. I just, you know, I try to, I also, you know.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I mean, Indians, you know, I mean, a lot of, like, there are, there's a team over at field team six, you know, and, and it's, It's probably not an Indian. I don't know, but it's, you know, they all have feathers, you know, and they, you know, it's a tradition at that unit now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Or, you know, a lot of people in that space gravitate towards, you know, Vikings and have Viking sayings and there are Latin sayings too. So it, I don't know, you know, could be, Probably not if you're positioning a president in a certain manner, but, you know, it could be something harmless.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Be that too.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Well, Diana, is there anything you want to talk about today that we haven't discussed yet?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Would you come back?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Do you want a gun?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
We can do that. Can you give me three people that you think would be, that you would like to see on this show?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Well, I know somebody that could probably make that connection.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Sitting right across from me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I would love to get Elon Musk on the show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
All right, perfect. Well, Diana, I just, once again, I want to say what a fascinating conversation. I love talking to you and I hope to see you again. I can't wait to see what's next. What is next for you? Before we do end this, I'm sorry.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Perfect. When does the book come out?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Oh, okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Okay, so next year.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Perfect. Well- Maybe we'll have you back on then if you're into it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
My pleasure. One last question.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Are we living in a cave?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
All right. Perfect. It's a realm, isn't it? All right. Well, Diana, thank you very much.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
I did enjoy it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
Before we go into the UFO stuff, I'm actually very interested in the purgatory stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So what do you think?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
So the purgatory originated as a cave?
Shawn Ryan Show
#166 Diana Pasulka - Religious History, UFO Phenomena and the Ancient Mysteries of Purgatory
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
What age were you when you jumped into PragerU?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
18? Yeah. And you found them?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
I mean, how did you, do you remember like her telling you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
They brought you on to do a show. And so walking in there for the first time, I mean, how... How often was it that you were listening to them? Pretty frequently, yeah. You were listening to them all the time?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Were they all there when you walked in the door?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
So it was welcoming right off the bat.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
I mean, how did it feel walking in there, starting a show with the people? I don't know if you'd call them idols, but people that you look up to in the industry. And I mean, now you're right there with them.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
How did you, before we get into independent, how did you guys come up with the concept? How did you come up with the comments section?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You hit a million in four months.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You amassed 4.5 million in three years.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
So they gave you a $10,000 budget and you created a 4.5 million viewership.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
In three years. How did that rank against the other shows?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Did that start happening immediately?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
What did the execs think? I mean, a million in four months?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
What were they saying to you?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
I mean, with that kind of a success and that amount of time, I mean, that's damn near unheard of.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
What was, what was your motivation to go independent? When did that pop into your head?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You just wanted a new challenge or?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You wanted more freedom.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
What was the final straw? Thank you.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
I think I think I think I think
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Do you think he'll watch this?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Well, that'll probably strike up some questions.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
How often do you talk to him?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Yeah, I mean, you came out with a big bang, and that's cool. Everybody starts off with a introduction here, so... Brett Cooper, you're a conservative and cultural commentator who has captivated audiences with your sharp insights and relatable perspective. You're a former actress who brings a unique blend of entertainment and politics into your audience.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
There's not a lot of people doing it. You're in a very unique position here. And I mean, who will you look to for advice? Especially with the mom stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Business stuff. I mean, Candace seems to manage it all.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Everybody's got an opinion.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
And you're at a level where a lot of people want to drag it down.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
And, you know, being independent. it's kind of like being a free agent. Everybody wants a piece. Everybody wants what you have. Everybody wants to consume you. All the sharks are after you. How do you, and I know that's happening to you from conversations we've had offline. And so what I am curious about is how do you, how do you know who to trust? How do you know who's not full of shit?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Especially in this industry. Everybody's full of shit.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Have you found anybody that's not?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You've got a great team around you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Good. Good. What do you see it developing into?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You've got to do the cookies.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You've got to do the cookies.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
I'll be your best customer.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Build a foundation, stay true to yourself and just be open then.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
But Brad. amazing interview. And I mean, I don't know if you ever think about this, you know, but if you don't, you might want to, but just think about all the people, you know, that you've, You've influenced and, I mean, you're an inspiration. You know, I mean, at 23 years old, you've already built a hell of a legacy. Yeah.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
And you're making it okay for people to talk about what they believe in, no matter what that is. And you're a pioneer. That takes a lot of courage. So, congratulations. Thank you. And you inspire me.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Thank you. Thank you. Well, Brett, I wish you the best of success. Thank you. Thank you.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
I mean, it's pretty amazing. You know, I want to dive into all of it, but it does sound like you had a really tough childhood. And, you know, a lot of the stuff we spoke about at dinner last night, I mean, you know, a lot of people don't get out of that. You know, it just carries on from generation to generation to generation. And somehow, you know, you broke through it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You're obviously a very strong woman. But what did your parents do? What did your mom do?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
She was a stay-at-home mom. Mm-hmm. And your dad?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
During your nearly three-year tenure at The Daily Wire, you amassed 4.5 million subscribers as the host of the comment section with Brett Cooper. You're the host of the Brett Cooper Show Now, where you tackle current events, cultural issues, and personal stories. You've attracted over a million subscribers in just one month.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
What were you into as a kid?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
All right, all right. How's it going independent?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
How much did you guys bounce around?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Let's rewind a little bit before we get into the acting. So you moved from Washington to Chattanooga. How much older were your brothers than you?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
12 and 14 years. Were you close with them? Are you close with them?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You're a voice for Gen Z, challenging the status quo and sparking conversations on topics often overlooked by the mainstream media. And you live on a farm here in Tennessee with your husband, and your one-year anniversary is next week, correct?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Super close. 12 years older and you guys are super close.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
What kind of stuff were you experiencing in home with your mom and your dad?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
How old were you when they got divorced?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
We'll get there. Let's go back.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
congratulations thank you congratulations so I want to do a life story on you.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
I know there's a lot there, especially for a 23-year-old, man. You've been through it. And there's a lot of depth that I don't think you've really gone in depth on a lot of this stuff on other podcasts.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Do you remember how you found out?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
I want to be the one. Sounds good. I want to be the one that gets it.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You think you're going to get emotional?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Is it more challenging than you thought it would be?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
It's like a therapy session.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
When did you start therapy?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
I think I need to. I've been kicking around the idea of going back. I haven't been in probably- Seven years, I think.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You know the lights just dim behind you twice.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Me too. I know it's real, man. There's not a doubt in my mind. Yeah.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
It is. Do you think he's there right now?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
We'll talk about that in a minute.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Let's take a quick break.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Have you ever heard of the Long Island medium? I think that's what they call her.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Yeah, I think she's been on a ton of stuff.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
But my wife's family had some crazy stuff happen with that. They went to, I guess they do like a show. Yeah. And it sounded like it was pretty intimate. And... Without getting too into detail about her family, she had some family members that they lost their dad. And they went to this medium. It's kind of like, you know, just entertainment. Yeah.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
And, you know, she was like, oh, the medium was like, oh, you know, I'm getting this. And all these people raise their hand. I'm like, no, it's not you. And oh, like they're saying this and all these other people raise their hand. And it's like, no, it's not you. And she said, they know that you go in the closet and spray your dad's old cologne.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
And total privacy to remember him and her family member just started like crying immediately. And then, you know, and then there was a little bit more, I can't remember the rest of it, but it's like, man, that stuff is wild.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Yeah, you know, a lot of times I think people just break it down themselves.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
It's like some type of connected consciousness.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You know, just hearing yourself talk, you realize how insane you are and work through a lot of those issues yourself. But, yeah, I think about going back, I mean, with the rise of the show and, you know, just a lot of people coming at you, it can be enraging. Yeah. And that's something I'm kind of working through. But you dealt with that at a young age, and I want to talk about that later too.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Yeah, I'm with you. You know, it's like, I just, I don't think any... I don't think that we are aware of our full capability. I've delved into the subject several times with the psychic type stuff and the remote viewers and stuff like that. I think that's a fascinating subject. Of course, there's everybody else who claims it, which is just complete bullshit.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
But, yeah, I think that the human mind is capable of so much more than we can even fathom.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You know, and I think it's been dubbed down just from century to century to century into what we are today. But, I mean, and a lot of those guys talk about it, you know, like how they think that it may have happened. But, yeah. And I use... I mean, I just... In a weird way, I use that in business and what I'm doing, and there are no fucking limits, you know?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
And, like, we're just capable of so much, and we put these false limitations on ourselves and trap ourselves in these little prisons, you know? And a lot of people... We all suffer from it somewhat, right? But some a lot more than others. But we just... Anyways, yeah, I think that we are capable of so much more than what we're doing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
And if you can wrap your head around that and start to realize there are no limitations, then amazing things can be accomplished. And you're doing that, by the way. So congratulations. But let's lighten it up a little bit.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
So you moved to California. You started getting into acting.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
At least I think that's light. I don't know how you feel about California.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
I mean, that had to be a culture shock, right?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
One from Chattanooga, Tennessee.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Yeah, sounds good. So... But we have a couple things to knock out here. So I have a Patreon account.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Where's your subscription network?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Cooper Confidential. Nice.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Would you act just as an eight-year-old just playing around?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
What do you do on there?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You didn't realize it was an escape?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
When did you realize it was an escape?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Do you think you still have a lot of walls up
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Maybe it would be good for you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
So that was... The thing about psychedelics is the walls completely come down.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
But they completely... come down and there's aspects of yourself that you never realized were there. You find out who you are and because the walls come down and some of the walls, I think at least with myself, you know, I didn't, you don't even realize certain walls are up cause they've been up so damn long.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
And then when they completely go away, you find a lot of things out about yourself. Might be something to look into. Maybe not. I don't know.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
That could be really good.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
That could be really good.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Did we talk about this on your show? Can't remember.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Yeah, I did it. And... I didn't realize I had all these walls up and it just changed. It changed the entire trajectory of my life. And it was already, it was going like this, but with my family, with my wife, with my son at the time, you know, I didn't have my daughter yet and it helped me be more in the moment. It helped me be more open with my wife.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Nice, nice. Well, this is from John Wallace.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
It took a lot of the fear that I didn't even realize I had. business wise. And then my business went straight up because I realized I wasn't beholden to anybody and all the fears of, well, you know, the fears, the fears of being in the limelight and, and having millions of people following you and feeling beholden to an audience. I mean, all of that shit went away. It all fucking went away, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
And, uh, I'm just, I'm a huge proponent of it. I've seen so many people turn their lives around with get rid of addictions, anxieties, depression, um, Post-traumatic stress, all that kind of stuff, man. Like the walls come down in your life trajectory. You find out who you are and you lean into that. And it also kind of reassures that your intuition is pretty much right on the money.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Could you comment on the current state of conservative politics now that the new administration is actively making changes and disrupting the liberal agenda? Then there's a follow-on. Is there more unity? or is there a behind the scenes drama and power grabs occurring?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You're a wise woman, man. I'm being serious, especially for 23 years old, but just in general, you're very wise. And, you know, it's super impressive to me that that's how you've taken your brother's death is living for him. And I mean, that's just something we talk about so much right here because we talk about a lot of loss because of my background and a lot of the guest background being
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Brett Cooper, welcome to the show.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
military, special operations. It's just part of it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Well, the thing is, a lot of people will take death and they will... they'll take the loss of a loved one and it will debilitate their entire existence, you know? And when people ask me for advice on, you know, how to deal with loss, or I ask a guest on how to deal with loss to include you at 23, having been through it at five, I mean, it's, That's how you have to look at it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
That's how you have to look at it. Do you think that person would want to watch you suffer and mourn and... And ruin your entire life out of grief. And no, man, that's not what they would want. They would want you to win. They would want you to live your life to the fullest. And so I think it's just amazing that you've already figured that out.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
And it sounded like you figured it out a long time ago. And so.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Did you go through family suicide attempts at a young age, or is this later on?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
How did you know it was a suicide attempt?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
He gave everybody a postcard?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
What was it like when he came home?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Yeah. It'd be great to see a little unity. I mean, people are just so far apart nowadays, you know, but, but I think a lot of people are exhausted from it too.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
I'm so fucking tired of politics.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
I hope the pendulum just, like, starts slowing down a little bit here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
You know, I think maybe, hopefully, you know, hopefully everybody's learned some lessons.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
And maybe we don't need to go so fucking extreme.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Well, we'll dive into that later, but I just want to say, man, like I am, you're 23 years old, right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
And, yeah, that would be amazing. But probably way off. But probably wishful thinking. Mm-hmm. But so everybody gets a gift.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
And you emancipated yourself at 15? 15, yeah.
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Cause we get those this morning. We didn't eat the duck egg yet.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Thank you. Thank you for those. Did you, I'm just going to say it. So yeah, you got this cookie idea. I know you got to do it, man. I know you got to do it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
would crush it. People love food, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Yeah. Your husband was telling us at dinner last night, he liked the cookie monster over there. Six cookies in one sitting. Amazing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
But all right. So let's dig in. You ready?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
So you grew up in Chattanooga, right?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
very sharp 23-year-old, and I just have a ton of respect for you. I don't dabble with the Gen Zers much. I don't get the opportunity, but I've been stalking you for a little bit. Sounds kind of creepy, but no, I saw obviously the transition from Daily Wire and kind of disappeared for a minute and you pop back up and like you got spunk in your step. You're just you're crushing it, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
I mean, do you hear yourself right now?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
With everything you've been through, you graduate high school, you emancipate yourself, you have a full-time job at Trader Joe's and a full-time acting career, and you're caring for your schizophrenic brother.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Why were your parents not happy?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Wait a minute, your brother's dad's, your brother's dad died of brain cancer when they were very young. How young?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
How do you stay so strong?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
How did Alex handle this, your husband?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Is he the first ability that you found in life?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
How does it feel to lean into that?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Did he know your brothers?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
How long did you guys date before you got married?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
I'm happy you're here. We've got a lot to dive into. You ready?
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
Your father wanted you aborted.
Shawn Ryan Show
#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
When did you find that out?
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#186 Brett Cooper - The Real Reason She Left The Daily Wire
And it's really like I got a ton of respect for people that can walk away from
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
They all seem to be pretty different networks. It's not like you guys are just all getting your information from the same sources. And so that's kind of what we're going to cover today. And I just want to say thank you for coming back. I love, even though the conversations are heavy, I just love seeing you guys. So thanks for making it back.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
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Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
See, you know, everybody seems to be, all of our adversaries seem to be such long-term thinkers. China has a 200-year plan. Terrorists have a long game plan. I mean, what do you guys think about what we're seeing in Europe through their immigration process?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
policies i mean you go over there now you go to paris you know the the kind of the the tourism district seems fine you leave and it's these islamist extremist neighborhoods and same things going on in london same things going on in belgium uh when me and you were at the inauguration we spoke with the the oncoming Ambassador to Belgium, he was talking to us about this. I'm hoping to interview him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Germany, it's happening there. And I saw my friend Joe Lonsdale put out a tweet not too long ago, and he was kind of... How do I say this? He was kind of he was just broaching the idea. Hey, what happens when Europe gets completely flipped from Christian nations who are run by Christians to Islamist extremists? And what what does that look like? Not just for Europe, but for the entire world?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
I mean, there there goes everything. There goes our allies, you know? And so, I mean, what do you think about that legend?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
it's a paco from afghanistan oh thank you thank you you're welcome well i have since we're on gifts i have gifts for you guys too it's probably the only reason you keep coming back well now that i saw that palmer ate him during the episode i'm like good i'm just gonna start eating him now i'm not even bringing him home we can eat him during the episode yeah absolutely this could be like a pre-brief
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
But so let's kind of start with some of the intel stuff. Sarah, I know you have some info on this right now. Media is blown up. Christians are being massacred in Syria. And so give us some insight there. How is this happening? Why it's happening? You know, give us what you know about the situation going on in Syria.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
These come in ranch flavor. They will work on that. I know you love ranch. We should do that. We'll work on that. I'm still addicted to ranch. And one other gift, legend. You familiar with the unplugged phone? I am, yes. Perfect. I gave Sarah one. I've given Scott one. And so that was developed by Eric Prince. I met with their team, lots of veterans, tech people, entrepreneurs.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
And basically what that is, it's a way to get around big tech companies. spying on us, basically, stealing our data. And they've put a lot of... It's just a great phone. There's a lot of developments that they put into that phone. There's a kill switch so nobody can listen to you. It actually separates the battery from the actual device so nobody can listen in.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Instagram, X, Google, none of those can suck your advertising data out of that phone. And so it's just a... Everybody's worried about big tech censorship, and so I thought you should have one too.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Great guy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Good point. But what do you think about what I just said about Europe?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Levels of horror that were just unimaginable. Like all the videos we saw, burning them alive, putting them in cages, drowning them, putting kids in cages, dropping them in the river, that kind of stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
What happens if it switches?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
I mean, the other fear, too, is not just street crime. I mean, when I'm talking about our allies and we're talking about a no immigration policy, I mean, these are nuclear powers as well. And, you know, we bat back and forth with Iran. Well, what happens when UK gets or when the UK government gets overturned and it is all Islamic extremists? Go ahead, Sarah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
I just, I don't understand. I mean, there's a lot I don't understand, but why? Is this just... That's why I'm asking, do they want us to get attacked so that we can go...
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Let's move into, we'll get to that, we'll get to what we're seeing and what we can do, you know, at the local community here at the end. But let's do, let's move back into what we're here to talk about today. So you guys have any Intel updates since the last time we spoke? I mean, Scott, me and you talk on a pretty regular basis, but it's been about a month, I think, since we've spoken.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Sarah, it's been a couple months since you've been here, a legend. It's been several months. And so I'm just, what are the updates that you're seeing out from Afghanistan and these terrorist networks?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
When you bring up acronyms like the GDI, you have to understand the audience doesn't understand what that is. So the GDI is the Taliban's intelligence service, correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
And can you talk about him? That's where I was going with this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Yes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
them a week through various NGOs and, you know, talk about, you know, I think the big thing we want to talk about today on top of all that are what can communities do? You know, it's at the top level. And there's only so much we can do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
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#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
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#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
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Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Human intelligence. Human intelligence. So why would we just... Why isn't U.S. intelligence agencies, why aren't they keeping in communication with them if this is such a big threat?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
How many Christians have been executed?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
What's an Alawite neighborhood?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Revet who? Revet who we gave passports and visas to?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Or revet everybody that crossed the border?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
I think we're kind of doing that. Isn't Tom Holman doing that right now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
I mean, it seems like Homan, Border Patrol, ICE all seem to be very busy to me, but you don't think they're moving fast enough. I mean, how would they move faster? It's only been, what?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Well, let me ask you this. I mean, we used to – did we just lose all the information? I mean, we used to have the hide cameras, you know, that would scan the retina, and then there would be – why are you laughing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Do we still have access to that system at all?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
So you have something to bounce it off of.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
But there are new terrorist emerging shots. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, do we have any database to bounce when they pick somebody up? Do we have any data to bounce that off of?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Where are we with the funding? You're the one that broke $40 million a week. Then we brought on Sarah that said $40 to $87 million a week.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Wow. How were they, how, just go over the caliphate again. Sure. So a lot of the listeners don't understand what that is. So can you just give us a definition of that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
We really started a conversation here with the three of you guys about that. Tim Burchett got involved. Eli Crane got involved. Marjorie Taylor Greene was at the last press conference, from what I understand. I talked to Tim Sheehy, the senator out of Montana. He's aware of it. He was introducing it into the Senate. What's the headway on this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
I mean, everybody's aware of it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
But one of the things that we can do is talk to communities down at the local level and just get them thinking about this, having the conversations and coming up with some plans and stuff that they can do. But you guys don't need any introduction. All of you have been on the show. Scott, several times. Sarah, several times. Legend. But just a quick intro.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Well, I mean, I talked to Tim a couple of weeks ago, and he said that the holdup seemed to be, and that Mike Johnson was on board with this, is that they didn't want to attach anything else to the bill so that to give somebody a reason to vote against it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Because Tim had said, we have to get this bill in as a single bill without all the other stuff attached to it so that he nor anybody who's against this has to vote against the bill, then rewrite it up and bring it out again. And he had told me that Mike Johnson seemed to be on board with that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
And that was maybe kind of the holdup is that they need to introduce it as a single bill so that everybody can vote against it. And they can hold people accountable that don't vote against it and get it out there without giving them the excuse of, oh, well, this other thing that was attached to the bill. We're not for that, so we had to vote against it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Otherwise, this other thing would have happened.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Yeah, hashtag it. Let's take a quick break. When we get back, let's talk about, you know, what communities can do. It's obviously, it's at the top level. We've done, in my opinion, we've done everything we can do to get it at the top level. It is all the way to the top. It's in every agency. It's in every... It's everywhere. Everybody's aware. And so it's kind of, you know, it's out of our hands.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
You know, we've done everything we can do. And unless you guys have something that I'm not thinking of.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
I know everybody out there has to be just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source. It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter. Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign super bad. She's made two different appearances here on The Sean Ryan Show.
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#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind blowing. And so I've asked her if she would contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
So it's gonna be all things terrorists, how terrorists are coming up through the southern border, how they're entering the country, how they're traveling, what these different terrorist organizations throughout the world are up to. And here's the best part, the newsletter is actually free. We're not gonna spam you. It's about one newsletter a week, maybe two if we release two shows.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
The only other thing that's going to be in there besides the Intel brief is if we have a new product or something like that. But like I said, it's a free CIA intelligence brief. Sign up. Link's in the description or in the comments. We'll see you in the newsletter. All right, we're back from the break. We were just talking about the funding. Is it stopping? Where is it at?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
What are they using this funding for?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
And so is it a matter – I mean, we've seen DOGE is pretty much dismantling USAID. And they're uncovering all these things, you know, spreading the LBGTQ agendas, the Sesame Street stuff. I mean, it's just a ridiculous thing, a ridiculous thing. Probably some type of affront or – or whatever you want to call it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
But I mean, is it just a matter of time before they reach this, before DOGE reaches this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Wow. So basically, if I'm hearing this right, they are going through, back to just Syria, they're going through demographic group by group by group. So they haven't reached the Kurds yet.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
all right guys it's uh been a minute since i've seen you and so here we are we're going to talk about syria afghanistan where the funding it where the bills are and stuff when the federal government to to i guess what do we call it defund the taliban for the 40 to 87 million we're sending
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Well, I think what I'm kind of alluding to here is maybe if we get Doge's attention, then they focus on this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Scott, I want to go into communities. What can communities do? But right before we get there, I know you and Sarah have been working on this book, The Gathering Storm, to warn local communities, to kind of give them some insight on what's coming next. and what they can do, you know, at the local level.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
But it sounds like some of the other stuff that you guys covered in that book is dissecting some of the other acts of terrorism that we've seen throughout the globe, Mumbai, the Russian mall. October 7th. What are, I mean, when you dissected those with your counterparts, I mean, what are some of the commonalities and some of the things that you found?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
What do you think about, I mean, from my understanding, we're leaving Syria, correct? So I got a really good friend, he's Green Beret, just served over there. Sounds like it's going to be one of the last deployments over there. And the Kurds are really, I mean, they're obviously very worried about what happens to them when we pull out. Should we be? What's your opinion?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
What are some of the top lessons without dissecting all of it? What are some of the top lessons?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Well, you know, thank you guys for the briefing yesterday. I mean, we went to my local sheriff, very receptive. I was really happy with how that went. I want to do everything I can to protect the community that I live in and all the kids and the people who live here. And, you know, they seem very receptive. There was...
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
My county's police or my city's police department, the county sheriff's office, neighboring PDs. And then we even had quite a different federal agencies and state agencies in there. Department of Higher Education was in there. And, you know, I think... Back to you, what are the questions?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
You have to put yourself... in the terrorist mindset of how would they do this? If I wanted to strike terrorists, hit multiple targets, kill as many people as possible, how would I do it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Should we be pulling out of there? Should we stay there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
And so what are some of the questions that communities should be asking?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
know knowing the mandate that groups like isis and al-qaeda have against our you know demise like why would we not assume that that number of people are here prepared to do that i mean well i mean we've we've seen how effective the training is i mean the last time sarah was on she gave us a clip we'll roll it again right now but i mean in my 14 years of being over there i've i've never seen a combatant move like that or shoot like that and um
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
You know, you guys have, I know you briefed a couple of governors, local PDs, sheriff's offices. I don't know who else, but, you know, one of the things, and I don't know if this came out of this or not, what you guys are doing, but it's like Florida seems to be kind of leading the way with this with,
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
They've set up the, what is it, the National Guard Special Missions Unit, where they've utilized a lot of special operations veterans as kind of like a volunteer special unit task force, special missions unit task force. And so I'm hoping they do that here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Are you guys getting any, but that just seems like a great way because, because even yesterday during the briefing, it was, it was, you know, allocation resources seem to be like the primary concern, right? And how are they gonna, I mean, and that's something that all these communities need to be thinking about is, you know, I mean, look, Police are already understaffed. Right.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Because the last four years, the defund the police thing. And so you really, you know, PDs, sheriff's offices, even at the federal state levels, you know, they need to be thinking about allocation of resources and how fast those resources are going to be used up. And so you need to be thinking about neighboring PDs, neighboring sheriff's offices.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
state assets, federal assets, and how we can help each other.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
We spent 20 years at war. This is for everybody. We spent 20 years at war. The terrorism just seems to be the snowball effect that gets bigger and bigger and bigger. Then U.S. goes to war. It shrinks, it shrinks, it shrinks. As soon as we leave, I mean, it seems like it's growing. It seems like every time we leave, it gets bigger faster. Do you have something?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
GWAP veterans are, I mean, you've already covered this several times just on this specific show, but very open to help. They want to help. And so yesterday in the briefing you had brought up, expect blockades, expect not to be able to reach anyone. The venues.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Legend, can't reveal your face because you're still doing the secret squirrel stuff. And you're back and forth in and out of CONUS, so we will reveal your identity. But Afghan-American... former Army intelligence, Sarah, former CIA analyst, former CIA targeter, Scott, former Green Beret, and all of you guys have a very extensive intel-type network and
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
And so, you know, and I brought up, hey, like, you know, I understand you guys, you know, you don't have all the resources that you need, but you can utilize local community. I mean, I brought it up, you know, when I was in the SEAL teams in 2004, we 16 guys, you know, 16 guys went into Athens and we.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
We developed five routes into every Olympic venue in Athens, outside of Athens, how we would get there. And not only that, I mean, guys that have done the job, you know, I mean, how many times were you infilling a target, it was blocked, and then you had to deviate, find another route in? I mean, we're really good at this type of stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
And so even if you can't allocate your officers to develop that plan, you can reach out to the community, have your community, find the qualified people within the community. They're out there. There's a ton of them here, you know, to develop just the routes. Just the routes. And I mean, and I know you're saying like, we don't have time. We don't have time. It's going to take time. It will.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
And you have to start somewhere. So I don't want to I don't want to. I don't want it to seem like it's an impossible task. I mean, I think the important thing is just start. Start utilizing the community. Develop the routes. You had talked about the communication piece and that it would be very likely there would be no comms. Well, immediately I brought up, hey, you can get comms.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Order some mini star links. And at least you have communication from on-site where the attack happened to headquarters, to the sheriff's department, to the PD, to whatever, you know, and that's right there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Well, it gets people thinking. And so I want to go, I kind of just want to go over everything that we talked about there yesterday. Like not only allocation of actual personnel, but resources, medical supplies. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Sarah and Boone just did a big event at a local church here where it sounds like not even just local churches within this county were here, but all throughout the state came to listen to them speak. And so there are a lot of people that are taking this seriously. And they might not know the questions to ask. I mean, you go to a church down here, everybody's packing heat.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
I mean, everybody's armed, everybody's packing heat. But, you know, do they do they understand basic medical skills? Even just even just slapping a tourniquet on, you know, and so maybe PDs. I don't know who would fund it. I don't know who would fund it. But instead of I mean, EMS is probably going to be have even a tougher time doing getting there to triage and treat.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
victims yeah and casualties yeah and so that means they won't be able to remember they have to wait till the scene yeah is clear of a threat so even after that even after though there's going to be traffic jams roads are going to be blocked even even if they didn't block the attack they're going to you know there's going to be traffic jams where you can't move because everybody's going to be in paralysis and so so if even if it's just hey
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Let's get 100 tourniquets and stash them in different churches. Let's get 100, you know, or chest seals or. Yeah. Bandages, all that kind of stuff. Because even if EMS doesn't arrive, guess what? There's going to be medical professionals there that are survivors that we'll be able to treat.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
And if that communication can even just come out, you know, because it's not 100% the comms are going to be shut down. But if the department, you know, if they get a call and they say, hey, by the way, there's an entire... medical cache of supplies stashed in the janitor closet at a mall, or maybe you make it just open, just like they do with AEDs and that type of equipment.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Hey, here's the medical supplies. We can't get there. Roads are blocked. You guys, we set up for this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
I mean, and then even just training, and I'm not talking about high tactics, clearing rooms, that kind of stuff. I mean, if you're a community leader, If you're a minister, if you're a pastor, if you're a teacher, if you're a principal, if you're a manager of a Publix, a grocery store, you know, I mean,
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
a little bit of medical training can go a very very long way and there's always people that are interested in doing this i mean especially churches here very involved in this stuff i mean i mean covenant shooting not too long ago just happened there was another one in antioch just happened a couple months ago you know and and um and People are tuned in right now. And so use that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Get your people trained up. At least it's that that can mean life or death for a whole number of people.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Is this on purpose? Is this because U.S. wants to be at war because it's a big money-making machine? Why don't we end it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
You know, and just, I want to expound on the red cell stuff. Cause I think a lot of people don't understand what red cell red cell is basically penetration testing for whatever could be venues, events, whatever. And so you're, you're basically penetration testing, finding weaknesses within that venue. And, and even that, you know, we brought up, Hey,
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
You don't have to send, you don't have to allocate a bunch of on-duty officers to do penetration testing to different venues. You could have off-duty guys do it. You could have deputized, whoever, just, hey, I just want to let you know, my guy walked in, had a gun, had a knife, had this, had that. Nobody checked me. I'm an off-duty cop.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
I'm allowed to carry anywhere, you know, and I just want you to, you know, hold the venues accountable, hold stuff like that. Like you were just talking about the basketball game at Chapel Hill. And, you know, I'd like to kind of wrap this up here, but I think, you know, another thing, maybe, maybe, Maybe the most important thing is open the discussion within the community.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
And when I say that, it doesn't mean you have to have a podcast and scare the living shit out of everybody. Like, this is going to scare a lot of people, you know. It's also going to create a lot of discussion. And I'm not trying to say, hey, cause mass hysteria. But...
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
open the discussion in your communities and even if it's just hey we're aware of the potential terrorism threat and we're working on ways to to mitigate that and to minimize it as much as possible you don't have to talk about what you're doing you don't have to be uh extremely descriptive of what may come like what we just did but it opens the discussion it gets out on
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
different different channels gets out on the media gets out on social and one thing that we can i think we can all agree on is these guys they look for soft targets and so if you harden your community then guess what they see that because these guys always surveil before they hit they always do surveillance before they hit that's surveillance on the internet that's
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
surveillance in person of venues of people and so if you if you create that discussion however you do it it it it it gives the appearance that let's not hit this community they're getting their shit together it's a discussion they're preparing for it it pushes it over to the next county pushes it over to the next state if all the states do it maybe we stay in europe i don't know but
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
you know, my concern, my biggest concern is obviously my community. And I think everybody listening, that's their biggest concern too. And so open the discussion, get your, get your, get your citizens aware of it. And that also, it also, you know, gives off the appearance, not just the appearance that you're actually doing something to combat this and you become a harder target.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
They want to use your targets. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
You know, I think bottom line is these guys want to succeed. They want to succeed. And so if you harden your community, harden your school, harden your church, harden your household. I mean, I know... I have a whole team of security now. I know you guys do too. And, you know, when you do that, it's, yeah, let's go somewhere where we're guaranteed success. That's how they think.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
That's how, that's just how they think. And so, harden up the community, harden up the churches, harden up the schools, harden up the venues, harden up your households, you know, and set that tone so that they see that and they will very likely move on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
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#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
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#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
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#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
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Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Well, Legend, Sarah, Scott, I really appreciate you guys coming. And what I appreciate more is what happened yesterday where you guys briefed up my community. And I just want to say thank you for that. And in closing, for everybody that's planning at home, you know, community leaders, sheriffs, chief of police, Anybody, you know, I remember Eric Prince said this on my show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
Professionals think about logistics. Amateurs think about tactics. You have to think about logistics first. So with that being said, thank you again for coming and see you soon.
Shawn Ryan Show
#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
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#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
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#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
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#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
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#184 Growing Threat - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
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#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
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#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
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#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
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Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, yeah. It's... pretty heavy there's some heavy stuff in this room uh that's very historic but but um yeah I remember you know when we we got the after actions report when we got into country and uh they showed us uh it was I think it was uh it was some kind of a recruiting video that um I kind of put up yeah I saw it and uh you could I remember seeing, I was new, you know, fairly new.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And I remember seeing Danny Dietz upside down on the mountaintop and his cami blouse was pulled up. And a lot of the guys in my platoon were in a team with Danny. And they were like, holy shit, like he just got that tattoo. And I was with him when he got it on his rib cage. And it was just like...
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
that's when it became very real for me i can't imagine uh how personal and how much emotion you guys must have felt seeing that those videos i saw that those videos rage i mean yeah i would watch them every time we went out on an op that was my that was my my warm-up yeah man you know i would this is why the we're doing this because of this and um
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
But, and then, you know, I can't wait to get into some of the opiate stuff too with you. That's something we can relate on. I lost my best friend to opiates and who was struggling, you know, you were just talking about. You know, the transition from military, four military guys getting back into civilian and everybody goes down the spiral. And he didn't make it out. It was because of opiates.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I mean... Actually, it was because of that operation. So that was my best friend's team. He was part of the recovery operation? He was part of the recovery operation. He was... I'll tell you this. This was... I've never talked about this, but... He was, that was his sister platoon. He was in Iraq. They were doing, having a great deployment, which means they were going after a lot of bad guys.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
He had, his name's Gabe. I don't know if I should be doing this, but fuck it. I'm going to do it. And, uh, cause this, he had one of the worst runs I've ever heard. And, uh, He was engaged and had a mess up at a strip club and got a stripper pregnant, broke off the engagement, was going to do the right thing. He was going to do the right thing in his mind, which was to
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
marry her marry the stripper have the baby and uh and he deployed to iraq well uh they were getting after it and she went into labor there were some complications so he left iraq to come home and to be with her while the while the baby was born gets home goes to the hospital the baby's dead the mom is dead he doesn't tell anybody
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
He goes back to SEAL Team 10 and says, hey, I want to go back with the guys over in Iraq. They say, oh, you didn't hear the guys are coming home early. He had screened to go to development group, and they said, hey, you need to reenlist. So how about you jump in with your sister platoon who's in Afghanistan right now? He's like, well, I don't have any of my gear. It's all in Iraq still.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And they said, don't worry. You don't need gear. You're not going on operations. You're just going to go over there, reenlist, get it done, jump back on the bird, come home. So he wears his dress camis, gets on the bird. They land in Germany for a layover, find out that Marcus is on the run. Then he lands in Bagram. So they know that three guys have died and that Marcus is on the run.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They land in Bagram and he finds out that the helo went down, which was all the rest of his friends. wants to go on the recovery op with Dev, they wouldn't let him on at first. And he was like, basically, he's like, I don't, they're like, you don't have any kid. You can't go. He's like, I don't give a fuck. I'll scrounge up some shit. So in his dress cam, he's,
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
goes and piecemeals some shit together from the techs. Gets like a helmet that doesn't fit with a monocle. He's a night vision, like a shitty rifle, you know, without any optics on it. And he's in like an old flat jacket that, you know, I mean, you knew the gear we were using back then because you made the movie, but it was like the old shit that didn't even have any magazines on it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Found a couple of magazine pouches, put it on. goes on the fucking op. The dev guys are all like, who the fuck is this? Why is the tech coming on this? And goes on the op. But I mean, that's, goes on the op to recover the bodies. They get in a firefight out there. And he also had a role in Benghazi. He also had a role in the coast bombing at the agency, but never fucking told anybody.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And he told me when he was in Bud's, he was in Bud's with, I believe, I know James was one, I think Axelson was the other. And this was, he was in buds when 9-11 happened and through Hell Week. And he told me he was sitting on the grinder or standing on the grinder. So I was on one side, Axelson's on the other. And this is like. 30 minutes after the towers go down.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah. And so they give a speech, and they're basically saying, hey, Blake, it's been peacetime for a long time, and your guys' generation is going to war. And look to your right, and look to your left. There's a good chance that one of these guys are going to be dead, you know, in the near future. James, Matt Axelson, and when he fucking landed,
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
When he landed in Bagram, it was that Master Chief that gave that speech that greeted him coming off the fucking bird. Wow. And... Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And then he later died of... of addiction with opiates. And so I've never told anybody. I appreciate. Yeah, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They don't care about us when we're done.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They try to hide it. They try to hide it. They don't like talking about it because it fucks up recruiting numbers.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
The upper echelon of the SEAL teams fucking hate this show because – Because we dive into it. Yeah, I would imagine. We expose it. I don't care if it hurts the recruiting numbers. I believe they have a responsibility.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I am, thank you. A lot. That means a hell of a lot coming from you. So I really appreciate it. um well let's i got all kinds of stuff that we're gonna talk about when it comes to that but uh everybody starts off with an introduction here so Peter Berg, you're born in the heart of New York City in the 1960s.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
That's a big reason why opiates become such a problem in the community. And they're right there. And so then, yeah. It numbs that out. Turn it off. Numbs it out. And then... it's just, it's the only thing that seems to turn the switch off, you know, for a lot of people. And the immediate easy fix, you know, just it dumbs you out to where you don't give a fuck anymore.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And then, you know, down the spiral we go.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
When you made that, I mean, that exposed a lot of shit to the public that people weren't really thinking about. I mean, when you make something like that, do you have any fear? A little bit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
You moved to Los Angeles in your early 20s and have realized your dreams of becoming a celebrated film actor, writer, director, and producer earning accolades across multiple platforms. Your approach to filmmaking is deeply personal, often focusing on real stories that highlight human endurance, teamwork, and the fight against adversity.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Your films are known for their gritty realism, emotional depth, and action that feels both authentic and exhilarating. Among your many creative endeavors, Friday Night Lights, Lone Survivor, and Deepwater Horizon stand out as highlights in your career. More recently, you tackled the opioid epidemic. That's, like, super close to me. And I'm sure you know why, which we'll get into.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
What were some of the things, what was the initial thing that kind of got you paranoid about the Sackler family?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
The opioid epidemic head-on... with your epic show, Painkiller, just one week after its release, Painkiller ranked number one in the top 10 English language series genre and currently has over 54 million hours viewed. And on January 9th, you're about to introduce your latest project, American Primeval Into the World on Netflix. I look forward to discussing that today.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
But did you struggle with addiction at all?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, it is. I had a hell of a run in Columbia with cocaine. Yeah. I appreciate the bottle, but I've been sober for three years. Good for you, man. And... Well, I've been on booze for three years, but yeah, really. I was really riding the line there. Opiates, coke, benzos, booze, sleeping pill, all of it combined together. And then I did a psychedelics treatment.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Thank you for giving us a sneak peek that, like, it looks so awesome and uh so realistic and and uh like the sounds in it are it's amazing it's amazing i think you'll like it i can't wait i can't wait for that to come out and uh clear eyes full hearts can't lose can't lose let's dig in so so also everybody gets a gift Just a little something for the flight home. Open it now, right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I had a little journey. Went down to Mexico to do... There's some drugs that got me off the drugs.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Forgive me. So I had really cleaned it up. So I moved down to...
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Well, that's kind of why I went. You found what you were looking for. I definitely found it and overdosed a couple times, almost died. I remember calling my mom on Mother's Day. You know, I've always heard, you don't have to worry about how much coke you've had until things start slowing down. And they said, when you're on speed and things start slowing down, that's when you're right in the line.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And that happened to me a couple times down there where it was like, It was like that fucking scene in old school where like, you know, the voice is like, I started hearing that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
About five years. And a lot. I mean, I just, it's just, I mean, it's, you know, at that time, like really good coke in Miami was like 150 bucks a gram. Yeah. And down there I was getting it for five bucks a gram. And it was so much stronger, right? Yeah. I mean, it's fresh from the, it's just right, I mean, it's Columbia.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I mean, it was all the time. It was all the time. And I would go – you know, I don't know. I never really kept track, but, I mean, I never stopped. Like, I would go hard in the paint for a week. Oh, my goodness. And then I would go all the way up until the point where, like – I would get, like, this really bad heartburn, and I would just drown Tums and Pepto and anything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Like, I just wanted to keep... How did you get yourself out of that? Well, I actually got run out by the federal police. And I... So I, like, really... I always... take care of everybody around me. And I do it with my team now. I've just always done it. I've always been. And so when I went down there, I had a kind of a, I had a penthouse in a neighborhood called El Poblado.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And so anybody that was around me, I would take care of. So like number one guy, doorman, who has access into the building that I'm in. the door guy. And so all the door guys, like, if I want to go get booze, they got booze. If I want to go get Coke, they got Coke. When I would leave Columbia to come back to the States, I would give them all my clothes, my shoes, my sunglasses, everything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
computer. I'd done anything. If I went to go get a phone, I'd got them a phone. So I really took care of those guys because I knew that they controlled access into the building and up to my apartment. And so they had kind of tipped me off. And one of them in particular tipped me off and had told me that they had set up a
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They had set up an observation point in a building across from mine and that they may have bugged the recessed lighting in the hallway outside of where I was at. But this was real or was this like coke paranoia? No, this is real. Okay. Yeah, and so when I got one to that, I – I hightailed it out of there and never went back. Cleaned it up. Cleaned up the coke. Tried to clean it up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Then I started going to Costa Rica, but Costa Rica was like fucking Disneyland compared to what I was doing. Pura Vida. You weren't about to Pura Vida. It was a joke. It was just a bunch of gringos down there wanting to have sex with Latin Costa Rican girls. I was just like, this is fucking stupid. JV. I need... I need to be, because the real issue was adrenaline addiction from all my time in.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah. Right? People would come down to visit me and to think it would be a good time, which I thought, you know, I'm not condoning this. It was a fucking, it was horrible. I speak against it all the time now, but they couldn't,
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
you know they'd last maybe two days and they'd be they'd come down to visit me for a month and then I'd get a note you know on my table that's like dude I'm out of here it's like this is crazy and um and uh because it it wasn't uh I mean it's just different it's just crazy down there I mean I used to go to this um club it was called Fahrenheit and in the club
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They had like these tables where they would line, like put lines and mounds, like little mounds and key bumps and shit on the table of Coke and then lacquer over the top.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, go ahead. Open it up. Oh, the gummy bears. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I'm sure they're looking. But... Don't do it. Yeah, but don't do it. It doesn't lead anywhere good.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I mean, it was just... I mean, that was just one hangout. But what I really liked doing was... I mean, what I really liked was the adrenaline, you know, and it just... You know, the adrenaline from the teams and then my time at the agency, like it just, I mean, it was just always like shit was happening. And then when I left, I couldn't fucking feed that anymore.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And I had nowhere to get it, you know? And so that's, I was like, I'm going to go down here. I'm like...
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
That Mother's Day thing, like, really got to me because I was like, man, I'm going to— I'm going to fucking OD down here. And my body will just decompose because nobody really gives a shit about me down here. Nobody knows I'm here other than my parents. And they'll just eventually get a call like, hey, your son's body is fucking decomposing in this penthouse. He OD'd on coke.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And like the career that I've had before that, it was just like, oh, there's my son, the former SEAL, former CIA contractor who's fucking died of a cocaine overdose. I was ashamed. And so I went home and I, I mean, I still struggled with the benzos and cause down there I would, I would just, you know, you can get whatever you want. So if I was getting, you know, eventually if I was getting too
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
No, you'll have to go back home to California to get those. Okay. I can get them. I love gummy bears. Yeah, those are good. A little something for the flight home.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
going too hard down the coke train I would just pop a Valium and then yeah but whatever but um but uh then I had a suicide attempt and uh that was really like the breaking point for me when I got when I got back home just nothing was I couldn't get anything going and and uh and uh pulled the car into the garage and reclined the seat back and uh I woke up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I should have never woken up, but anyways.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Me too. But so, yeah, so then, you know, then I, but then I found, you know, psychedelics through this show and went down there and haven't had, Kicked everything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Peter, it was like a light switch, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I did Ibogaine and 5-MeO-DNT.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I smoked a toad.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
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#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
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#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Well, one day I did it 13 times.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
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Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
It was an all-day event. I started at 9 a.m.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, amazing, amazing. And, like, I just, the first time was the scariest and probably the one that I got the most out of. I mean, like I said, you know, between that and the Ibogaine, I haven't, this February it'll be three years since I've had a drop.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Cleaned me out. Still clean.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Totally different.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Well, I mean... I mean... The Ibogaine's like a 12-hour experience.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, I think so. What was the Ibogaine like? Man, it was... It was about 12 hours long. I couldn't walk afterwards. In a nutshell, it's like a life review. It's like a life review of looking at your life through... from an outside perspective, like a non-biased, for me, like a non-emotional perspective.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And so a lot of the things that kind of happened, I guess you just, you process them in a different way.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And it wasn't all traumatic shit, you know, it was, like, to be honest, it was like this, it was like the, It was like these TV screens, like thousands of them, kind of like going off into a distance and just disappearing. And every screen was a different portion, like segment of my life. And I could see them through my peripherals and like see them, you know, kind of moving through.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And I could think like,
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
oh, yeah, that's, you know, when me and my dad did this thing, and that is in Iraq, and that's when I was a teenager wrestling, and this is, there was no, like, chronological order, there was no nothing, and if I tried to pay too much attention into one screen, then they would all disappear, and so it wasn't even like I was reliving experiences, but that's kind of, you know, how it went for me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I didn't, I didn't, like, It wasn't a scary experience other than at the very first I saw my head split open and another one mushroomed out. That's a little scary. Yeah, but it wasn't like you hear some of the horror stories about people reliving things or meeting demons.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, I didn't meet any demons. It was just a life review kind of. and um and then when i came out of it it's like i had this uh new sixth sense that said hey all this you're doing it's poison like knock this off quit drinking quit you know i quit caffeine for a long time i quit smoking marijuana for a long time i I was still taking Adderall to concentrate and hadn't had any of that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And like the fruit that came from that experience just, I mean, it totally like revolutionized this show and my business. I was kind of scared to leave the military genre, not leave it, but explore new territories and like that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Man, I can't even believe you're sitting here. I've watched so many of your movies and series, and to have you sitting here is pretty surreal.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Man, thank you. I'm going to have you sign this. This is going to be a relic in the studio. I'd be honored. Thank you. This is very cool. Yeah, that's rare. That's a collector's piece. Perfect. Cool, man. I'll get it. Yeah, we'll have you sign it after the... Okay. After the... after the interview here. And then, One last thing. I got a Patreon account. They're my top subscribers, top supporters.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
medicines yeah i mean they've done studies on it now it's it's it's it's um i mean it's really changing a lot of lives you know and it is the cure for for opiate addiction or alcoholism and so if you're out there riding the line you know like we were just talking about and uh you're looking for a way out i'd highly recommend it yeah man same here and and i do hope that whatever happens
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They're the reason I get to be here and you get to be here. They've been with us since the beginning. And so one of the things I do is I offer them the opportunity to ask every guest a question. And you had a ton. So this is from Tori Miller. With so many great movies that you've directed and several based on true events, which movie was the most stressful to film and made you feel that you got...
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
that you got it right when it finally released?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I'm hesitant to do it every time. Have you done it once? No, I've done it, I think, four times. Right. And four different sessions.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
You don't know where you're going. No. So are you saying you're not an atheist now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I'm not here to judge.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Nah, we talk about this all the time on this show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
This is a medicine. So, like, all the coke and all that shit, like, I think we kind of covered it. Like, it's not good. I mean, I'm... Dark, dark, dark suicidal energies.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They say there's more planets than grains of sand in the world.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
So that's kind of where I am. That's, I mean... it it uh it sent me down a path because i was first time i did it it was i didn't really believe in anything either i grew up catholic and uh and that you know went out the window pretty much as soon as i joined the seal teams with that culture and what we were doing and But did you have your eyes closed or a blindfold on? Yeah, I did.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
They were closed. I did it. I wanted to see.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, I came back after I died. What did your death feel like? My death felt like, man, like it was the most anxiety, most... fear i've ever felt in my life and uh and like i it felt like all the negative like toxicity like that i've experienced you know rage like it felt like it was just rushing through my veins out of my fingers and my toes and um and it felt like uh it i i had like this
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
It wasn't really a visualization. It felt more like an intuition, but it felt like there was this black tar dripping off of my heart. Wow. Wow.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
It was. And I just, like you, I had all these thoughts and shit about... Because that's your ego trying to hold on to logic. And the last thing that I was grasping onto was my wife and my son. And I was just like, I knew I was 100% certain, like, you're fucking dying, Sean. Like, there's no coming back. You're done. And I was just fighting like hell because I just...
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I didn't want to leave my wife and my six month old son in this fucked up place. And, uh, so that was like the last thing that I was holding onto. And then when I, when I let that go, that's when the crossover happened. And, uh, when the crossover happened, I like sat back up and, uh, we're on the beach or close to the beach. We're up on a, like a Mount, like a hill.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And you could see, like, see out, you know, into the Pacific. There were some islands out there, and I remember everything looked exactly the same. It was just more vibrant. But like every time I do psychedelics, I'm like, it's very, it's a lot of intuition going on. And, you know, I was really reluctant to do this because I was like, this shit's for the hippies. I'm not a hippie.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And I've heard hippies talk about energy and all this stuff. And, but what I opened my eyes, I saw, I just, you could intuitively feel and see this,
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
flow of energy from the ocean into the beach up the trees like into the grass through me and it was i could just you could see it in intuitively and you just knew that it was there and and and you know if i felt like if there would have been some negative energy out there it would have been like a spotlight in the darkness. Like you just would have been able to identify it immediately.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Uh, cause everything was just so positive. And, uh, and then I felt the presence of, uh, Gabe, you know, who, who talked about, and, um, and I, I felt that, uh, I just, it was the feeling that everything that all the trauma, everything that had happened, uh, throughout my life was supposed to happen. And that it was okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And that none of it even fucking mattered because this is such a minuscule sliver in time that we're experiencing right now. And so it made me believe again in a higher power. Yeah. And then, honestly, it sent me on a journey. And, I mean, now I'm a Christian, and I've had another experience after that that turned me into a Christian that, like, fucking slapped me in the face.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Like, hey, pay attention. And, yeah. It's amazing. I mean, the stuff that that, it's, and you also realize how minuscule like you are. We are. And you're okay with it, you know, which is the ego death, right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, you've made some just amazing, amazing stuff. But yeah, I would say... I mean, that had to be a lot of pressure, you know, considering the events that happened that the movie's about. And then in just our conversation before we actually officially started the interview about Showing the families. I mean, that's tough.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
What do you think? I think it depends on life experiences. So, because it is so healing. So, you know, I think if you have a kid who is, I'm not, like, I can't back this up either.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
But, you know, I mean, there's kids that have been through lots and lots of sexual trauma, rape.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And I was just had a guy in here and I'm not going to mention his name because this kind of conversation was offline, but, um, his son, you know, was in an, in an accident and, and, uh, somebody was killed. And, um, And his son did this. And it sounds like it healed him, you know, because he carried a lot of fucking guilt. How old was his son? 17 or 18, I think.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And, you know, kind of got him through. You know, because you do realize, I mean, for me, just, you just, you, man, I'll tell you, like, it changes your perspective so much that, you know, it's like, oh, fuck, like, so-and-so died. You know what I mean? That sucks. That a short life could have had, you know, had a lot more life to live, died in his 20s, died at 25, a lot of seals, whatever.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Death sucks, right? That's how humanity perceives it. It's fucking horrible. Like, you only get to live once. After doing the 5-MeO DMT, this shit is what sucks. They're in a better fucking spot. It's almost like you get a window or a veils lifted and you see what it's actually all about. Even though you can't... Like you said, there's no words in the English language to...
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
to describe it, but it's a hell of a lot better than here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I think the world would be a better place. I wish the fucking politicians would use it. But have you ever heard anything bad coming from it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, I just heard this last week. Actually, it was the guys that got me into this. They didn't talk me into it. They shared their experience on how it helped them, and I was like, I got to do this. But they came up. We went to an event together. We were all talking about psychedelics, and
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
i guess there's somebody that i haven't looked into this yet but apparently it's there's there's something out there on it this guy did it it seems to have experienced a 10-year time period and within 30 minutes i began or meo meo okay and had I don't know, like I said, I didn't get any, I didn't have like a storyline or anything when I did it, which doesn't sound like you did either.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
But he had built a relationship, had a kid, like all this shit happened in his mind in 30 minutes that was 10 years worth of time. And then when he came out, of the experience. Only 30 minutes had passed, and he still misses whoever he met that was in that experience because he had built a 10-year relationship with those people. And so all he wants to do... Isn't that fucking wild? It's crazy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I know, I've never heard that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I've never heard of that, man. Apparently he still has feelings, but I'll tell you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, yep. Wow. Yep. Maybe tapped into another life. Who the hell knows? Maybe. You know? It also, another thing that, like, it did is it set me down. This stuff just set me down a rabbit hole. Have you ever read The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Basically, I'm going to butcher it, but, I mean... Lots of people read this. Some people read it every, I think Tom Brady reads it every year. But it talks a lot about like, it's four agreements that you make with yourself. And I can't even, I haven't read it in years. So I don't know them all off the top of my head.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
But it kind of talks about like, I don't want to make this book sound like something it's not. But one thing that it does do is it talks about how we've all been indoctrinated. But it doesn't do it in like a conspiracy-ish fucking way. It's just the way it is. And a lot of people read this after psychedelics. And when you read it, you're like, oh, yeah. Like, okay. Like, yeah. This is true.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
And in between that and... in kind of in what I experienced through psychedelics and how healing it is and how it's fucking illegal here. Why? I don't know. It's helping so many people with addiction and trauma.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah. And it sent me down this rabbit hole to think that everything we know and have been told is a fucking lie. And I do believe that. I do want to ask you about something. Did we go to the moon? Pardon me? Did we go to the moon?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Have you looked into that? Which stuff? Did he staged it? He filmed it? Yeah, that's Capricorn One.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Me too. I don't know, though. There's some pretty compelling evidence.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
It's a very complicated situation.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Five days?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Oh, man, so this is fresh.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, I've been hesitant to cover the subject because it's so fucking complicated.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
The world is a fucked up place. Yeah, but there's some good stories too. Let's move into what you're doing now, American Primeval. Yeah. How did that come across for you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
It looks like it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
I started as... It's...
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Man, thank you. Thank you. I am curious. I have to know this. How the hell did—like, you've got to be a super busy guy, and with who you appear to be surrounded by, I mean, how did this pop up on your radar?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
That is interesting. Where'd you film it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
A good challenge, a really good challenge. Man, the preview is awesome, and it looks super realistic, and I'm sure it's going to crush it on Netflix. It's on Netflix, correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
Yeah, January 9th. Well, Peter, we're wrapping up the interview. You're a good dude, man. So are you. Appreciate it. Thank you for opening up about everything. Same to you. Thanks for sharing the story of your buddy. Wow. He lives on. He was an amazing dude. But, man, we covered a lot of ground there. And you thought you didn't have it in you. Here we are. I wasn't sure.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
But hey, it was a pleasure. Pleasure to see you again. And best of luck with the film. Appreciate it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#157 Peter Berg - Exposing Big Pharma, Lone Survivor, and Hollywood’s Dark Side
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Thank you. Well, we have a lot to talk about today.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So they immigrated to England?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Wow. Wow. And then how'd you get to the States?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
It's interesting, though. I'm just curious because you see a lot of people that come from communist countries... Or have roots in communist countries, China, Cuba, Venezuela. I mean, you go to South Florida and Cubans are terrified that the U.S. is going to wind up like Cuba. And a lot of the... A lot of the people of Chinese descent that I talk to, too, are terrified that the U.S.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
is starting to turn into communism in some way, shape, or form. And so I'm just curious, how did you... What was the path to becoming a Democrat? Are your parents Democrats?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
They're not political.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Do you think the parents should be held responsible?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So you kind of got groomed into it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah. Okay. And so you interned at 13?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
You did?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
How so?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Okay. Okay. Yeah. So how did you—so you interned at 13.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So you had interest in politics at age 13?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
It would be kind of boring.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
A lot of people like boring.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So then you move on, age 24. You run for Congress.
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You were an investment banker?
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And then you ran for Congress.
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And then how did you get involved in the White House?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah. All right. Well, we got a lot of stuff to talk about.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
You sure?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Nice. And so how did you get involved in the White House? How did you get connected there?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
That's good. That's good. Because I'm not going to give them up. But we have a lot of stuff to talk about. The most important subject, the one that I want to talk about the most is, you know, Biden's cognitive decline.
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So were you the primary fundraiser for the Biden-Harris campaign?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
How much money did you raise?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
No, definitely not. But so I want to, I want to get into kind of the meat of why you're here, Biden's cognitive decline. And so you're basically coming out and saying that the coverup of Joe Biden's cognitive decline, basically it's, it's not, it's not a conspiracy. He was declining, correct?
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No, but, you know, I remember—
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Got some big news, some names I heard you're going to drop.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
in 2020 and in parts of 2019 you know i don't really i don't watch any legacy media anymore but at the time i did because you know covet was rampant obviously it was the start of it so everybody's glued you know what's going on what's happening and at the same time that you know the debates were getting ready to fire up and i remember fox kept saying over and over again that
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
This guy, you know, he's not with it. Nobody's at the wheel. Nobody's driving this train. This is basically just describing what now we all know is true. But I didn't buy into it. I was like, ah, this has to be, this has to be,
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
way over embellished there's no way somebody would be running for president and then i remember watching the first debate with my wife and i saw him come up and i saw him struggling to put a sentence together and i was like holy this is real and and so
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
you know i didn't understand how anybody bought off on it from the first debate i can't even remember exactly what he said we're going to roll some of the clips uh during the interview of of of how that went but i mean i i thought it was very apparent right at the very get-go debate one that he he wasn't with it and so when did you notice
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I can't wait to get into that. But I just have one thing I have to know.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Whose cocaine was in the White House?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
You didn't see slow decision-making or inability to put, I mean, you chalked that up.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So, I mean, and then, you know, I'm going to, you were a big fundraiser for the campaign too. So I wanted to, let's dive into a little bit of the campaign. You know, back then, you know, there were all these, Trump had thousands of people showing up. Biden wasn't really, he didn't have anybody showing up.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And I was... What was it that you saw? What did you see that was getting ridiculous?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
We're here to drop names, Lindy.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
But... And none of the other candidates would have been... The thing about that, and I know... Was it Tulsi?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I mean, was it one event that you witnessed that you realized? And I think you said 2022 is when you started to see.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I mean, what was it, though? I mean, we saw him falling down the steps of Air Force One.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
We saw him fall off his bike. We saw him go past Secret Service or the Marines or whatever or just like, oh, I forgot the White House doors over here and just kept walking.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Oh, okay. I think if it was Hunter's, it probably would have been an empty bag.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
We'll get to that. We'll get to that.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
We will get to that. But, I mean, did you have a lot of personal interaction with him while he was in?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Mm-hmm. So what were these interactions like? Walk me through one.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
What are some more...
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Perfect. All right. Well, we'll start it off with a... Introduction here. Lindy Lee, recognized as a prominent political strategist. You've raised millions of dollars for the DNC and for both the Biden and Harris campaigns. You've become an outspoken critic of the DNC and its wasteful spending and misguided policies.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah, Hunter definitely likes to party.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Were you part of the prep team?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And they would run him through these questions, I'm sure, time and time again before he actually gives a speech or has an event, correct?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Wow. So—
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Jeez. So there was, like, nobody at the wheel running this country.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
In a minute. In a minute. But what I want to ask is, how did they... Did they intimidate you not to leak?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
We'll put them up on screen.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah, you can airdrop it to us, and we'll put it up on screen.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Can I read it?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
No. Are you still free to chat? Maybe text. Long day. Okay. This may be the most important day of my life. I still haven't fully figured out how to navigate telling the truth about Biden. learning in parentheses, earning Fox's favor and covering for the Biden in parentheses, earning the White House's. The White House called me today to babysit me. I got the message.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
They said that I'm the biggest defender of the presidents. Yikes. What was the message? To hold the line, stay loyal. And in exchange, can I go down?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I didn't even tell them, but Politico and Fox announced my appearance. Fox has been promoting it. They even cut an ad. I also have other issues.
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Tell us.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So what do you think they would have done? I mean, it's pretty vague.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think there was a lot of the past four years, a lot of disgusting stuff that happened over in the Capitol and in the White House. I mean, there was that... Who was that guy?
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So pretty much all of them.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Why? Why? Why is the party more important than the country?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
2020, 2024.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
2024. How long did you want to come out before that?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Jeez. So they have no courage whatsoever.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
What did you start leaking to the press?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Did you give specific examples?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
How did the press receive the information? I mean— It wasn't just D.C. the problem.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
They were.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Man, I mean, it took a long time for him to admit that. I mean, we just heard time and time again. I mean, didn't his doctor say, oh, he's the best fit president ever? And, I mean, who were his doctors?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
That was crazy, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
That was crazy. I was actually in D.C. when that happened. Not at that party, though.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I mean, as far as cognitive decline goes, I mean, it's not just a Democrat issue. It's also a Republican issue. I mean, look at McConnell. Spaces out time after time again, doesn't know where he's at. Having strokes on camera. Feinstein died in office. I mean, am I missing? There's probably more. Who am I missing?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
But so, I mean, it was the president, and I think they definitely— Stakes are so much higher with the president.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Jeez. Jeez. So you didn't get any pushback from the left-leaning media? You were feeding them and they were chasing after you.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And what year did that start? That was also in 2024?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
What outlets gave you the most...
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Politico?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Why are you blackballed? They were chasing after you, and now they've blackballed you.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So does the Democrat Party pay these outlets? How are they controlled?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And then before we get started, when we first met, what happened on Joe's podcast? He came out and said something about the Harris interview.
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Man. I'm going to ask you again, or I didn't ask you, but what health issues are you having from all the stress and all the blowback coming back from the Democratic Party?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Well, I'm sorry to hear that.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Well, let's take a quick break, and then when we come back, I want to talk about who is actually running the White House.
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I know everybody out there has to be just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source. It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world.
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And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter. Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign super bad. She's made two different appearances here on the Sean Ryan Show.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind-blowing. And so I've asked her if she would... contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So it's gonna be all things terrorists, how terrorists are coming up through the southern border, how they're entering the country, how they're traveling, what these different terrorist organizations throughout the world are up to. And here's the best part, the newsletter is actually free. We're not gonna spam you. It's about one newsletter a week, maybe two if we release two shows.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
The only other thing that's going to be in there besides the Intel brief is if we have a new product or something like that. But like I said, it's a free CIA intelligence brief. Sign up. Link's in the description or in the comments. We'll see you in the newsletter. All right, Lindy, we're back from the break. We're going to get into some names here.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
But, you know, just on the, what, 10-minute break that we took, guess what? Mitch McConnell fell down the stairs again. My producer, Jeremy, just found it on Twitter, right? So, dude, this is a huge problem. This is a huge problem.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
What? I don't know what... How do people keep voting this shit in? It's just mind-blowing on either side. It just doesn't make any damn sense to me at all.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah, but you see it here right now. You can do a podcast for free, and we crush the numbers of mainstream media. It's ridiculous.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I'm just trying to humanize the candidate, find out who exactly they are, where they grew up, what their actual values are. I think it's hard to... It's hard to hide that in a two-, three-hour interview, even an hour-long interview.
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Tell me about Beyoncé.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
We invited her. We were talking to her people, and, you know, it was— It could only be an hour. Then we had to discuss the topics first. And it just got to the point where I was like, look, why don't you just give me the outline and I'll do that interview? Because I don't care what you give me. I'll make it work. And then, you know what I think it was?
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You know, there's a lot of corruption coming out right now about USAID. Did they fund any of this campaign?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah. Man, I don't think they're, I mean, what's it going to take for the Democrat Party to turn things around?
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I think they're going to have to be honest with the American people and admit a lot of faults and it's going to take somebody really tough to turn that around.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah, it seems like all the moderates have switched. One other question. I brought up Biden's doctors and how they said that he's— Kevin O'Connor. What's his name?
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I've always wondered who it was. But, you know, there's a lot of people that think that he was basically doped up before he would get on TV or get on and give a speech or whatever. Is there any truth to that?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I was wondering because I was there.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah, I was there for that. And he seemed sharp at the beginning and then—
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So any rumors of... I mean, you were in there. Were there any rumors of him getting doped up, Adderall?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I think it was the Brad Bear interview, which honestly, to be honest with you, I didn't even think it was that bad. I mean, there was a couple parts, but I thought she handled it okay. But it was like after that, it was dead silence. We had Newsweek put something out. We had the Washington Post put something out, and it just turned into crickets.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So even within the Democratic crowd, they knew something was going on?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Wow. Wow. So let's move into... Who was running the presidency for the last four years? A lot of people say it was Obama's third term. There's rumors of, you know, and these aren't even, these are friends of mine that are moderate Democrats say they thought it was Elizabeth Warren running it. They thought it was Bernie Sanders running it.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
But I think the general consensus, I think if you ask the majority of the population, they think it was Obama's third term.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So let's go through each name for— For all of the audience, not everybody is as tuned in with who's who in the political world.
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Who's the first name you mentioned?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Who's the next name?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Who's the next name?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Why do you have a soft spot for somebody who's running the country in the shadows to the ground?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Is there any, did we cover all the names?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Jill Biden.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
It doesn't surprise me.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I don't think anybody would argue that. Okay. And so when we say, was this Obama's third term, how was he connected with these people?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Why do you think she can't? Do you think she's intimidated? Do you think...
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
The border, the Afghanistan withdrawal, the DEI, the LGBTQ... Well, you got to keep in mind that a lot of these people hated each other.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
recently appointed to the Trump-Vance Inaugural Committee, raising money for President Trump's inauguration. Now you work with RNC leadership, and you are the youngest woman ever to run for Congress in American history. When did you run for Congress?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So where did, I mean, I guess, where did the agenda come from then? Did it come from Obama through these people?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Mm-hmm. Yeah. And, man, this is crazy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I mean— What about all the executive orders? Who was writing those up?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So they were just all these different people that weren't congregating with each other. There was no, like, collective agenda.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And what was he doing this whole time? I mean, he wasn't doing press conferences. Nobody had ever heard from him.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Going to bed at 8 p.m.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So what's his daily routine? I mean, he's not writing the executive orders. He doesn't even really know what's going on.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
He watches Morning Joe.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And then what? Did you space this out?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I think a lot of things hit, you know, funding terrorism.
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Ukraine, the border.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Was it intentional? No.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Is there a...
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Was that the agenda? I mean, was that the— Was that the talk behind the scenes? We've got to get these people in to turn them into voters?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Lindy Lee, welcome to the show.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I can't answer that. I don't know. Did he have any senators or congressmen in his era?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So very influential to Biden.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
And so let's go back to, I'm trying to figure out how Obama was running the show because you pretty much said, yes, it was Obama's third term.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
But we're also saying that all of the people that you just mentioned were not on the same page. It was very argumentative. They didn't like each other. And so if he was influencing all of them, it seems like they would have been on the same page.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Poor Clooney.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So were these his agendas? Were these Obama's agendas that we saw roll out over the past four years? That's what I'm asking because, you know, I am a realist, and I just want to know the truth. And so, you know, like I had mentioned, like a lot of people think that it was Obama's third term, but then we have you saying that these people weren't getting along.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
If it was orchestrated— Then from him, then it seems like these people will be getting along. And do you see what I'm saying?
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Okay. So were they—why are they so fearful of Trump? Are they worried that—we saw these executive orders come out. Does it have to do with protecting themselves? You know, we have the Epstein stuff that's hopefully going to come out if Kash Patel gets in. We have the Diddy stuff going on.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
They think that Trump was on that list?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So they're not trying to protect themselves.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Let's talk about the executive orders that came out at the very end.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Terrible. So who orchestrated that? I mean, who was on there? It was Fauci was on there. Yeah. There was Milley was on there. There was the J6 committee was on there. Who am I, am I missing anybody?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah, that was the first run. That was what, the night before. And then what, it was like an hour or two before. And by the way- It was his entire family.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
She definitely didn't seem quick on their feet, but I would still love to interview her. And I'm glad Joe was able to set the record straight.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So who orchestrated, let's talk about the families first. Who, did that come from Jill?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
But did he know? Did he understand? Did Joe Biden know what was going on?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So he was with it enough to orchestrate all of that.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I don't remember that debate.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Well, what I'm asking is, did Fauci get to him and did these people ask for the pardons?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Who was pressuring him?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah. What's she doing now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
That's why you turned Republican?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
What's this?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
This is from you. Hi, Lauren. I was just walking to get my dinner. A group of teenagers started pelting rocks at my head. I am now bruised and crying. Do you have any thoughts on how to move past this? Thanks so much. Hope you're well. Please feel free to respond when you're back in the office. No need to rush. Just needed to send this. This just happened, and I'm shaken. A million thank yous.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Run for governor in California?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah, and they defund the police movement. I mean, what are they going to do, you know? What are they going to do? They have nobody to back them.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Genius move.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So is that—I mean, what other values or—I mean, is there anything else? I mean— Just looking at it from a different perspective, I mean, you've been demonized, you've been ostracized from the Democratic Party. You say you've lost all of your friends. I mean, are you looking for acceptance in the Republican Party because you have nobody? Does that have a play in this?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
But let's just take all the acceptance and decent people out of it. Let's just talk about what is it about conservative values that draws you into the party?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Do you feel like you've lied to the American people through the concealment of Joe Biden's cognitive decline?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
As we kind of close this interview out, what do you have to say to members of the Democratic Party who were a big part of that lie? who did not have the courage to speak up or say anything still to this day.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
It's going to take a lot of work.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Oh, yeah, I saw it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Yeah. Well, Lindy, I really appreciate you coming. And do you have any more aspirations?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I appreciate that. Well, Lindy, best of luck to you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
What made you want to run for Congress at 24?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Man. Well, she'd probably be a shoo-in out in California.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Wow. Yeah. All right, well, let's move in. We've got a couple things to cover first. So I have a Patreon account. They're our top supporters. A lot of them have been with us since the very beginning. I started this thing in my attic, believe it or not, and then we moved here. Now we're building a new studio, and it's all because of them.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So one of the things I do is I offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question. And so this question is from Eric Alger. Lindy. You're a strong advocate for progressive policies and frequently appear in the mainstream media to push your message. Conservatives often argue that media landscape is overwhelmingly biased towards the left. Silencing Dissenting voices.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Given your platform and reach, do you acknowledge that there is a media bias problem? And if not, how do you explain the censorship and suppression of conservative viewpoints on major platforms?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Sir, are you anti-2A?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
I think everybody is.
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
How do you think it was rigged?
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#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
So I'm actually curious. What's the answer in your opinion?
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Well, we're going to dive into all that corruption. All right. Oh, and then lastly, everybody gets a gift here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
A little something for the ride home.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
The Jones League gummy bears made here in the USA. They taste amazing. They're not the healthiest, but, you know, they're gummy bears.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
Oh, yeah, they're in the store, but they're always sold out.
Shawn Ryan Show
#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah
You're welcome. All right. So let's move on. So a little bit about you. Your great-grandfather was executed by the CCP, correct?
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What did he do?
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Are they using any technology for their homework? Are they using computers, iPads, anything like that?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Okay, okay. How do the older students do on ACT, SCT scores?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
I think the last thing with the – it sounds like we pretty much covered the curriculum. Yeah. And so – Oh, I wanted one part.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Is this the master's program for parents?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Yeah, so let's just go into that a little bit more. I mean, so do they get the master's for teaching?
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
While they're teaching.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
What does – actually, I just want to rewind. Is there any type of a graduation –
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
So I just want to say to both of you, thank you for coming. And like I said, we've really been looking forward to this conversation. So I appreciate it.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
I mean, I would love to do it.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Wow, that's really cool. That's really cool. So I think, you know, wrapping up the interview, maybe I should have asked this at the beginning, but in both of your definitions, what is a classical education?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Well, I got a ton of questions, but let's get into the interview. So everybody starts with an introduction here. So Lee and Robert Bortons. Lee and Robert Bortons, a mother-son team who've turned their passion for education into a global homeschooling movement called Classical Conversations. Lee, you are a wife, a mother of four, a grandmother, and an aerospace engineer turned education pioneer.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
You are the visionary founder of Classical Conversations, a homeschooling juggernaut that's empowered over 125,000 students worldwide to learn through a classical Christian lens. You started with a basement class of 11 teenage boys, including Robert, and turned it into a community spanning 50-plus countries. Robert, you're a husband, father of three, an industrial engineer graduate from Clemson,
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who traded corporate life at UPS to join the family business. You are now the CEO who took the reins from your mother and grew this thing by 300% since 2012, making it the world's largest classical homeschooling organization. You are the host of the Refining Rhetoric podcast. You serve on multiple boards, engage in state politics, and you love rugby.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
You're both fierce advocates for educational freedom, pushing back against government overreach while championing parents' rights to educate their kids how they see fit. Most importantly, the families you serve are dedicated to preserving the best of Western civilization while raising families that know God and live to make Him known. I'm sure I'm missing a lot there. We sound cool.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Yeah, you do sound cool. But yeah, you guys, I mean, obviously met my producer, Jeremy. His kids are in the curriculum. Do you call it a curriculum? Community.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Okay. um but he's had phenomenal things to say about the program and and uh just a whole bunch of people we know here in tennessee uh are in the munity so a couple other things everybody gets a gift oh thank you there you go thank you I wouldn't recommend giving these to your homeschool kids.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Yeah.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
You have another son that's a Green Beret, correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Very cool. Maybe we'll get him on the show someday, too. One last thing before we get into the interview. I have a subscription account. It's turned into a community of people. It's called Patreon. The patrons, the community, they've been here since the beginning when... when it was me and my wife doing this thing in the attic and we couldn't figure out how to make any money doing this.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
And they are the reason that I get to be here and that you guys get to be here and that we got this studio and we're moving on to the next. They're just our top supporters and we've turned it into one hell of a community. And so one of the things we do is we offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question. And so this is from... This is for Lee from Steve and Casey.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
We've used Classical Conversations for all five of our children. Four have graduated and one now is 17, is still in the program. As Classical Conversations grows as an organization, how do you ensure it stays true to its founding principles of a God-centered classical education and does not drift off course?
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Very cool. I'm just—so you have—did you say 15,000 tutors?
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
So what is the... So if somebody has... I mean, that's a lot of people, 15,000 tutors.
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
So what if somebody goes awry? What happens? How does that come to your attention? How would a parent... So we have a leadership structure.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Wow. Wow. Interesting. I'm just curious. I think the thing that really...
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
got us thinking about this was before before we even had our son uh 2020 coveted kids weren't in schools kids were wearing masks in schools then this then you know certain outlets started talking about how you know kids are falling behind on just picking up on basic body language stuff and and all of that and then on top of that i mean
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Okay. Okay. Well, let's move into, so we've been married since 1983. You were an aerospace engineer. I mean, that's amazing. What was it that... Why did you give up that career to start homeschooling?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
I mean, was there... So...
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
How did you pick up on that before you had kids? I'm just curious. You said you saw the destruction of families occurring.
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
You said you weren't a Christian before?
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
How did that change? Neither you nor your husband were Christians.
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Wow. And so what brought you to Christianity?
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
I hate talking about it, but it's a thing, you know, the woke curriculum, the white privilege stuff, the LGBTQ stuff, like all this stuff that's like, what is this doing in the public school system? And... how does this better their future? And and and so we've really taken note of that. And we've we've talked to a lot of our friends that have kids in both public and private school.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Who was Joni with again?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
She was your neighbor.
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
You didn't go with the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Thank you. Thank you.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
And I have to say the only people that we talk to that are like are gung ho about their kids education are the people that are taking the time to homeschool their kids. And so So I guess long-winded there, but my question is, have you seen a rise in homeschooling since COVID, since 2020?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Thank you.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Thank you.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
But the spiritual war is... Where does it say this in the Bible about three governments?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Family should have the most influence, church second, civil government third.
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Lee and Robert Bordens, welcome to the show.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Mm-hmm.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Same mistake over and over again without getting a different result. Homeschooling, really expecting a different result.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Where do you tell kids where to go look things up?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
today with the internet and there's so many false sources you can't trust you can't trust media i mean i have friends that have warehouses full of bibles because they think that ai is going to manipulate the bible and the word and so where do you send you know a kid who's in a homeschool program doing a research project where did where do they find their information
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Competencies.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Where does the Illinois education, where does it stack up? Well, I'll tell you what this is. Competitiveness with students. I'm just curious. Where does Illinois stack up?
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
If, let's say, I don't know what Tennessee is. Let's say Tennessee is number one. Where's Illinois? Let me just tell you this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
And just to elaborate, you know, like, It's just like the white privilege stuff. I think it's important to learn about everything that happened with slavery and the mistakes that we made as a country and all of that kind of stuff. But I don't want my son or daughter to feel guilty for being a... Caucasian straight male or a Caucasian straight female.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
They have no nationalism.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
I was just there. In 10 years, it's a totally... Yeah, the Crusades will probably... Our grandkids will be fighting the Crusades. It's crazy. It's like they lost all their culture. It's gone. It is insane.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
So there are efforts in Illinois, and then worldwide, Germany, Sweden.
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Virginia is trying to pass laws. What's going on there, that's irreversible. They're just... Well, Virginia.
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
What is that even? You have to have a reason to homeschool your kids? In some states.
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
I've been looking forward to this for a while. So we were kind of talking off camera just a little bit, but I've been really looking forward to this. My wife and I have little ones, and it seems like every day we're trying to decide what we're going to do with the schooling. Are we going to do public school? Are we going to do private school? Are we going to do homeschool? And I think both of us,
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
This isn't a freedom that's... It doesn't surprise me. I mean, in Washington, they'll take your kid if you don't give them the gender surgery.
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
We'll take that. We'll take your kid.
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
And I've brought on all kinds of people to talk about this and wasn't necessarily the focus of the interview, but I brought on this guy, Chris Beck, who was the first maybe the only, I don't know, but the first transgender Navy SEAL. And I wanted to get inside of his mind and see, you know, how does this, like, how does this happen? Like, I just wanted a snapshot into his mind.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
So if you have four kids... What do you think about the voucher program?
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Isn't DeSantis in Florida trying to implement some type of a voucher program? We're very against it. You're very against it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
So I got a question. How much a year does classical conversations cost per student on average?
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
That's a lot less than I thought. Because I was going to ask, well, what about families that can't afford that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
And throughout that, his conversation, he talked about love bombing. Are you guys familiar with this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Yeah, yeah. No, I do get it. I mean, one of the plans me and my wife came up with, and we brought a bunch, not a bunch, we don't have a lot of friends. We brought the few friends that we do have together that have kids around our kids' age. And we had this idea where, like I said, we've been a little, we've been intimidated about the time commitment.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
And we thought it might be good to share that time commitment with other like-minded friends of ours who we think share similar or the same values. And so we thought it would be a good idea maybe if everybody put in an investment.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
So they basically, like, love bomb you into the... They basically just, like, fill you with love and da-da-da-da-da. Like, everybody's looking for acceptance into something. And so they, like, they overdo it and... That's what they call it. They call it love bombing and into that culture. And then if you leave, then it's like... You're a pariah. Exactly.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
into a pool of money and we purchase a piece of property or rent a piece of property, but we thought purchase a piece of property because that would be a real estate investment. Not opening a school, a real estate investment. Our kids go to school there, but we don't label it a school.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
We don't turn it into some type of an educational business because I don't want any involvement with any government. I don't want anybody I'm suing because they can't put their kid there like, sorry, your kid doesn't belong. We don't share the same values. And then I don't give, go raise your kid however the hell you want, but not here.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
And so we thought we would do a real estate investment that just happens to be a place where education is happening. That's awesome. And then we would all pool in, hire a teacher. Then we bring in each other's expertise, financial guy. I'm a SEAL, CIA guy, podcaster, media, nurses, doctors, and everybody kind of brings their expertise and we really pour into our kids as a community.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Now, you know, and then at the end of it, the real estate investment gets sold and all of the gains and everything gets proportionally sent back to each individual family. Brilliant. But, you know... It never went anywhere. I think me and my wife are the only ones. So we're actually excited about it.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
We thought a lot about this, too. I guess if you cut all the bullshit out, the disruptions, the lines, the bathroom breaks, the recess, the lunches, the insert, whatever nonsense that you have to deal with in public school, just forming a line takes probably five minutes. You know, and all the other, the disruptions, the disciplining, like all that kind of stuff.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
And he went on to talk about how that happens in schools. And he's transitioned back. And so it was a fascinating conversation, one of my best interviews ever. But all these things are just in my head. And then And, man, I could go off on tangents all day, but, I mean, kids these days can't read. You know, their math skills are shot. Their reading's shot. They have no physical education.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
I mean, then it cuts down hours and hours and hours worth of time.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
But one of the things that made a lot of people— Eight minutes of instruction per hour?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Well, let's take a quick break, and we covered a lot there. And when we come back, I want to kind of dig into the actual experience of kids K through 12. I have a ton of questions, and I just want to see what the roadmap looks like. Perfect.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
And also, when we come back, my wife, Katie, who you guys know has been sitting over there listening in to this entire conversation, I know she probably has some questions, and she'd like to ask you guys those as well. So we'll see you after the break. I'm always looking for ways to make sure I feel comfortable in what I wear through the whole day.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
I get a kid who has zero confidence and is staring at his shoes when I ask him where, you know, where's the, where's the doorknob section or, you know what I mean? And it's like, they're, they don't know, they don't know how to act. And I'm like, man, what? Like, I know a lot of that goes off on parenting as well, but I mean, it's just a, It's atrocious out there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
A couple questions that she wanted to get answered, so thank you guys for that. But I want to move into what's it like starting from, do we start in preschool or is it K?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Yeah, I mean with classical conversations. Kindergarten, K-4. Kindergarten. So how does it work? Just start walking me through what's the process, what's it like all the way through grade 12.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Wow.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
How often do they do that? Once a week. Once a week, they're given some type of a public presentation in front of their class.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Let's break it down a little bit more. So my wife and I next year are going to, I mean, we've got to make a decision within the next two years here. And so what does that look like? What do we get? Where do we sign up? What can we expect as parents?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
So are the kids there at the community too?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
So it's like a live, is it like a live class that the parents are watching?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
How many people are a community? Did you say it's broken up into eight families?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
With the churches, can any church sign up to do this, or is that also sort of like a selection process?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Did you just say start your own business?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
How does that work?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Well, I don't think. I know both of us lean way more towards the homeschooling. We have a lot of friends that do homeschooling, and where we live here seems to be somewhat of a homeschool mecca. But it's also kind of a...
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
What about discipline? How does that work in the communities?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Yeah, you know, I mean, that's another thing. I just don't see very many critical thinkers out there or free thinkers anymore. Everybody's told how to think through the media or told how to think very obviously through the universities out there and now into, like, little kids. I mean, even the patriotism, I mean...
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Okay. I guess what I'm getting at is one of the distractions in public school is a class clown, somebody that's picking on other kids, bullies, all that stuff. And so I guess what I'm kind of asking is you just have to deal with that. And what happens if you do have a student that's a continuous disruption to the class?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Okay. So it's one teacher and at least one parent. This isn't... So community... Am I saying this right? Community? Yeah. So community isn't we ditch our kids for the day at classful conversations and...
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
I don't have kids in school yet, but it seems like the Pledge of Allegiance has been yanked out. And, I mean, I went to public school. I did one year of homeschooling. It was the fastest. Like, I learned the fastest there. I excelled the fastest there in probably a quarter of the time that I was in public education that year. I think it was sixth grade.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
But, I mean, I remember going to school, and, like, Election Day was like a big day. It was a big day. Everybody's talking about it. It wasn't divisive. It was like, yeah, we get out. That's what we do as Americans. We get out. We vote for what we believe in. And now, like, I just, I mean, I don't see any of that stuff happening anymore.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
So it's a world timeline.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
What about, as a parent, what about testing?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Do we submit any tests?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
What about, you know, I think one of the biggest topics that people talk about when it comes to homeschooling is socialization. And so, I mean, how do you guys see kids socially communicating who aren't around, classmates every day. It sounds like it's one day a week. It's eight kids. Do you see those? I mean, just go into the socialism.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
I think what I'm getting at more is like, I'm not talking about ages. I'm just talking about... I just think people get worried that their kid is going to be socially awkward. Thank God. Sorry, they're not trans. Not being able to resolve social conflicts and not being able to make friends and stuff. I think that's kind of more of what I'm talking about. It doesn't have to be
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Their own people, but sure, I mean, their own age.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Somebody on the outside looking in thinks they're with... They're with mom or dad all day long. They never leave the house. They don't get involved in extracurricular sports. They're not going to be able to be in intramural sports. There's not going to be school dances. Is my son going to be able to talk to a woman because he's not around them? That's the perspective from the outside looking in.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Do you see the kids that are involved in community together, the aid kids, do they generally become, is that their social circle?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
What are they reading?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
I mean, because these gender surgeries are relatively, I mean, in the past 10 years. So how were they sexually perverting the public schools back in World War I?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Thank you.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Thank you.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Thank you.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
it's kind of a daunting task, you know, it's, it's maybe not, it's intimidating, you know, the, it's intimidating to us, the, the time commitment, the socialization, are we going to do it right? All those kinds of things. And so, So anyways, my wife and I, she never sits in on interviews. This is the first one ever she's sitting in on because we're so interested in this.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
It's not even just genders now.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
I mean, in Cookville, Tennessee, I think it was Cookville, they had somebody, of course, from California. Go figure, right? Oh, another one from California moving to Tennessee for whatever the hell reason. I don't know. You don't fit here if you think like this. But they bring their kid to school in a crate. And call it a furry. Call it a furry. I think it's called a furry.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
I can't remember what it's called. A furry. They shit and piss in a litter box. And like all the rest of the kids, it's like, how is that not a disruption? Cookville said- They didn't stand for it. They were like, well, we're going to sue the school. And they're like, cool, you came from California. You can go right the fuck back to California where you belong.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
know 29 years or 27 years how long it's been and give all that best practices to you and we do that we deliver in community okay okay well let's let's take one more break and then we'll pick up i hate to say it but we called it fourth grade but uh we'll pick up there and wrap it up all right sounds good perfect Exclusive merch and more.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Let's get back to the show. All right, guys, we're back from the break. We're getting ready to pick up fourth grade-ish. But, you know, I just... We had a – I mean, I can tell – me and my wife were chatting down there right before I came up. I mean, I can definitely tell a difference in the kids nowadays that are homeschooled versus not homeschooled.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
And you guys have brought up the fact that, you know, they're zinging questions at you. They're not just – they're not just listening, they're engaged. They're asking questions and like pepper and they're intelligent questions. And I noticed it with Jeremy's kids, my producer, and pretty much everybody's kids.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
They just seem more engaged, sharper, more confident, and able to hold adult conversations. Like it's impressive, man. It's impressive. And so... I want to get into the fourth grade stuff, but I also want to get into how does that happen? How's that developed? How are you bringing that critical thinking and the confidence to pepper an adult with questions?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
We don't have furries in public schools here. But I get, like, so pissed off just thinking about this stuff.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
I mean, it's just interesting because in public school, When I went, it's probably even worse now. I mean, people are embarrassed to ask a question. You see it in adult rooms.
Shawn Ryan Show
#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Exactly. They don't want to raise their hand. They don't want to ask the question. They're embarrassed to ask the question. But what I notice about homeschool kids is they are not embarrassed to ask questions. And they can ask some pretty tough questions.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Well, you guys have my wife fully on board, and the interview is not even over yet. And really, I mean, me too. But let's, unless something drastic changes in the last half of this interview here, but let's pick up at the fourth grade level.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
And so the audience asks the student questions and the audience is the parents.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
What age is this, policy debate?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
14-year-olds debating policy.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Do they have a list to pick from, or do they just look at what's going on in society?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Do you see excitement out of these kids to do this stuff?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Yeah, I'll bet. How many people are they speaking to online?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
But three or four people?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
No, three or four people are judging them.
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
But they're also speaking to an audience, not just the judges. Up to 50 people?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
Do you guys do any, I mean, what are the core subjects again?
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#188 Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
That's interesting, because the universe is expanding. Yes. So we will hit, and they can see the beginning, they can see the Big Bang, from what I understand, supposedly, correct? They... It happened, however many...
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Yeah, yeah. I mean, Pluto is no longer a planet. Lots of things change. But I'm just always fascinated in the subject. I'm trying to wrap my head around it, and I just don't have the IQ level to comprehend it.
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
You played a key role in the remote viewing intelligence program now known to the world by the code name Stargate. For 10 years, you were the operations and training officer of this secret remote viewing program.
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Right on, right on. Well, Skip, like I had mentioned at the beginning, you're a massive part, played a massive role in the Stargate program and remote viewing and in U.S. intelligence. And so I want to talk about your journey on how that all came about. And so let's kind of start with, let's start in childhood. Where did you grow up?
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
You recruited and trained an elite cadre of professional intelligence officers to do remote viewing for the Department of Defense and various members of the national intelligence community. After retiring from the Army, you became president of the Monroe Institute in Virginia.
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So when you say—let's rewind for just a second. When you say you would get out of bed and look out the window, and then you would look back and you would be in bed, I mean, how old were you when this started happening, right around 10?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
In your book, Project 8200, UFO UAP Bases and Activities, the original remote viewing transcripts, you show us the results of Pat Price's famous exploration of four mountains around the world where Price believed UFO bases were located. You're the author of Captain of My Ship, Master of My Soul, Living with Guidance.
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So does that mean when you interact with somebody in a dream, you believe they are also out of body?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
You have been featured in several film documentaries, including Ghosts in the Afterlife, A Scientific Investigation, and Third Eye Spies. I'm sure I'm missing quite a bit there, but that's quite deep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
That is, that is, that is. But, you know, I'm just... I have been... fascinated with this subject for many years now. And with every person that I interview, I just get more intrigued. And you have been involved in this almost since the very beginning, from what I understand.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
God. If you use the word God, yeah. What do you use personally? You just use a hand's motion.
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
And so some of the things that I would just, I would like, two main things I would like to do in this interview is one, to cover your life story and how you kind of got involved in this. And I would also like to go over, you know, the history of the Stargate program and kind of how it came on the map for United States intelligence. Yes. Perfect. I can talk about all that. Perfect.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Let's rewind real quick. Yes. So it sounds like your mom had some type of ability as well. Yes. Did your father?
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
But before we get too in the weeds, I have a Patreon account. Patreon, it's a subscription account. They're our top supporters. A lot of these folks have been with us since the very beginning, and they're the reason I get to sit here and you're here as well. And so one of the things I do is I offer them the opportunity to ask every guest a question. And so this question is from Jay.
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Did you ever hear any conversations between your parents about some of these abilities?
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Real quick, before we get into Fort Meade, how did you find out about remote viewing through the Army side of Army intelligence? Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What neurological structures in the brain are responsible for these altered states of consciousness? Is it simply dreaming?
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
and working through this situation to get these people trained wow very interesting so how did you how did you guys where did you start i mean a lot of people have security clearances there's a lot of people in the intelligence world it sounds it sounds out there it is what it is yes um
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What are some of the... What are some of the evaluations that you guys were conducting to find the best candidates?
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Were any of these people, were any of these Were any of these six people surprised that they were chosen? I mean, how do I describe this? Was anybody surprised at the program and surprised in the reasons you're evaluating them for?
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Do you know how we found out other intelligence agencies and countries were doing this? Spies.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What were they? Can you tell me what they were remote viewing inside the U.S.?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Okay, so six guys, six people, you guys took in. What happens then?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Very, very interesting. I mean, what is time then? What is it? If it doesn't exist, then what is it? It's a thing that we have invented to organize our lives on earth.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Let's talk about some of your career in remote viewing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Interesting. Understandable as well. How was Joe? when you met him?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What kind of questions was the Pentagon interested in?
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
We read every review that comes through, and we really appreciate the support. Thank you. Let's get back to the show. All right, Skip, we're back from the break. And right before we left, we're getting ready to get into Project 8200.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
But you had mentioned an important point that you wanted to bring up about how the remote viewer knows what to focus on, it sounded like, in the middle of their journey or experience. What do you call it? Yes. Is it an experience?
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
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#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Makes a lot of sense. Makes a lot of sense. So back to the original question. So it's not a dream?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Four UFO bases.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
And this just came in just completely random one day. This ad comes in, and there it is. Four UFO bases around the world. Where were they?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
You know, that's a very interesting demand considering it's all done in your brain. That's telling you, I mean, essentially the same thing as telling you, don't think about these things. I'm your boss. I tell you what to think and how to think. Right. How did Pat respond to that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Probably motivated him to do more.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
My kind of guy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So do you, this is interesting, do you, and I know this is going to tie into your childhood too, I think, but do you think that every dream needs to be deciphered and dissected and decoded?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What did he... And so these bases, were they part of the challenge targets?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So before we get into what they saw, what did Pat see at these bases?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What do you mean four different types of people? Races? Genders? What are we talking here? Just different projects that they're on?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So what is the material that you had on these four different locations? What were they?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
When you talk, what was, I'm sorry, what was the terminology again? Quantum? Quantum non-locality.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So what was Pat's transcript specifically? What was going on at these four different locations? The one in Australia, Alaska, Spain, and the location in Africa?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Oh, no. They're not going to turn the channel off. Because the reason I'm asking is I don't understand. I've tried to talk about this so many times, and it's just over my head. And so when we say there's no space and no time and everything's happening all at once in the now, correct? Yes. What does that mean? So what was yesterday?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Skip Atwater, welcome to the show. Thank you very much. I have heard a lot about you from several of the previous guests. I've read about you. I've seen documentaries about you. You're a hard man to reach. Been trying to make contact for quite a while, and Joe and Scooter finally... They were the ones that made the connection. So I just want to say thank you to Joe and Scooter.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What is that? Did he expound upon that at all?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
And... Now, what about, you had said, you had just mentioned maybe they programmed, they used the program thoughts to conceal the entrance. What are you speaking of when you say people can walk through things?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
How do you articulate that? How do you—what's happening there? How is that happening?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Well, what about the, so this was Mount Hayes, correct, that we were just speaking of?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
What are Pat and Joe saying about the other three locations? Were they identical? Were there any variations?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Had anyone else other than Joe and Pat remote viewed these locations?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So with everything that you know about this and, I mean, you set up Project 8200, I mean, what is your conclusion? What are these?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
But it was... It was pretty weird. Weird all right.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So we're talking six to seven different remote viewers all remote viewed these locations and had something very similar to say. Yes. And has there been any reported activity from... civilian population, news, media, anything from any of these locations?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Absolutely.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Do you mind if I text this to myself so we can put it on screen?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So if everything's happening all at once, all the time, and there is no time, I then that means every you could break it down into you could break a millisecond down into a what a nanosecond and break that down and it just continuously it never ends you can just keep dissecting and so does that mean Where is all this happening all at once?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Now, this is a dream or this is real or?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
This is an out-of-body experience. So you had an out-of-body experience in a grassy knoll. That's... Is that correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Mount Hayes?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Oh, um. I don't know. Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
That means everything's happening all at once, so that means what I just said two seconds ago is happening again, correct? There's no again if it's all at once.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
And so you're talking about quantum, what was it, quantum locale, correct? Yeah. And so there has to be some kind of a connection. If you heard of, what is it they call it? Man, now I'm having problems. Quantum entanglement.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
It has to be something like that. Our entire conversation you've been talking about, everything is one, how everything is connected. Even the Chinese have claimed to be able to communicate with their satellites now via...
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
quantum entanglement whether that's real or bullshit i don't know but supposedly the premise is every atom is connected and and you know we've talked about this several times on the show if you split an atom in half and you vibrate this half no matter where yes in Space and time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
The other half is it will mimic the exact same vibration that's being manipulated on the other half. And so that has to be, that has, oh, I guess it doesn't have to, but I would think that that would come into play.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So I guess it's just a matter of if you trust your own experiences or not.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Do you trust your own experiences?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Interesting concept that I've not heard before. Do you have any other... How far down the rabbit hole did you guys go with this? Were there other projects other than 8200? Of that time, no. I mean, there... I mean, I remember when I interviewed Joe, he had mentioned... He had mentioned remote viewing a pyramid on Mars. I believe the year was 2000 BC. Do you have any recollection of that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
I sent Joe to Mars. You're the one that sent him there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Can you just kind of relive that experience? Actually, let me start with a preliminary question. How did that pop up on anybody's radar? Why did you even give Joe a specific grid coordinate on Mars with a date?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
You don't remember why somebody gave you a coordinate to have Joe McMoneagle remote view Mars?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Okay. What did you think when Joe discovered the pyramid through his experience?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
I would appreciate that. Would it be okay if we put some of the clips into this interview as we talk about it? Sure, because then you would have the show. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
The agency just decided they were going to cremate him and bury him in an unmarked grave.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
I would probably... If I were you, I would go to the locations that people said that he was buried and see what's there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So, you have reason to believe that Pat Price's death was false and that he may still be alive doing work? Oh, he'd be well over 100 years old now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Yeah, very interesting. Well, Skip, we are getting close to time here, so I do want to ask, why was the Stargate program dismantled?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
They already had five.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
They already had five other programs. Did I say that? What are those programs?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Fair enough. Well, Skip, I really appreciate you making the trip out here, and it's just a fascinating subject, and it's cool to be talking to somebody that was a part of it all. Thank you, Skib.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
Have a good one.
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
So if no time, so I'm trying to understand the concept of no time, everything's happening at once, but what is the space? When you say there's no space, what does that mean?
Shawn Ryan Show
#154 Skip Atwater - Bizarre Alien Encounter, Remote Viewing Mars and Psychic Operations
I'm glad to be here. It's an honor to have you here. But everybody gets an introduction here, so we'll knock that out first. Frederick Holmes, Skip Atwater. You were a counter-spy during the Cold War era where you used your natural psychic aptitude as a U.S. Army counterintelligence special agent.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
We looked that up last night, too, and all we could find out was same thing, science fiction type stuff. But You know, there are some things that line up. One is, like I had mentioned, well, let's talk about the guy's story. Obviously, he had a VBID. Obviously, he was in the military and served. And the thing that he was talking about in 2019, we pulled a report. This is from October 9th, 2019.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
UN report, find... Alleged drug facilities were not lawful target airstrikes caused and caused significant civilian casualties. The United Nations Special Report, which examines the impact on civilians of the United States airstrikes on alleged drug processing facilities on 5 May 2019 in Afghanistan, determines the operation caused a large number of civilian casualties.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
So I just want to say thank you for being here because I was eavesdropping in on that conversation you had with Jeremy. And this is a big story, man. This is big. It is. Real big. And so thank you for being here. I appreciate it. Thank you. But I do, before we get too heavy, I got some gifts for you. Here you go. Excellent. So we're talking about people monitoring the phone.
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#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
The report also examines the legal framework applicable to this incident. In June 2019, the UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan, together with representatives of the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission, conducted a site visit to areas impacted by the strikes in Farah Province, Bakwa District, as part of its extensive fact-finding into the 5 May incident.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
The UN verified 39 civilian casualties, among them 14 children, one woman, from multiple airstrikes on more than 60 sites that the United States, Afghanistan identified as drug production facilities in Bakwa district and in parts of neighboring Dalaran district of Nimroz province.
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#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Moreover, the UN is working to verify credible reports of at least 37 additional civilian casualties, the majority of whom were women and children. Although airstrikes on the alleged drug processing facilities had taken place before, this was the first time that UNAMA had received reports of large number of civilian casualties resulting from such an operation. And it goes on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I'm not going to read all this. We'll link the article here. So that 100% lines up. The other thing that really struck me is, like I had mentioned, after our phone call,
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
jumped in an interview after the interview checked my phone and i had several green berets former green berets one still active actually i'm just gonna say it was uh tim kennedy um sent me a message late last night about 9 00 p.m and said hey the i should have brought my phone up here but hey basically that the that USASOC wants to give me more context on what had happened on this guy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And so first I wasn't going to take the call because I don't like, I don't trust the government anymore. I don't think anybody does. But I was on the phone with my producer, who was a naval surface warfare officer, and my attorney, Tim Parlatori. They said we should talk to him. So I called Tim.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
was really pissed off uh reamed his ass about it and then later apologized but you know i think you said you had mentioned that nobody you'd received a message from somebody that says nobody's heard of this guy tim sent me a picture of him working shooting with this guy and uh I don't know if I should release that photo or not, but Tim basically told me this. So I got the POA's number.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
The public affairs officer sent it to Jeremy and Tim. He talked to them. And what they wanted us to know was that this guy was an upstanding soldier. an excellent operator, was moving towards retirement and moving on to basically enhance the future of warfare. They wanted us to know that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Then the PA officer, sounds like almost jokingly said, which I don't know why you would joke about this, said that, oh, and between us, Which, why the fuck would a POA officer say between us? I mean, if they didn't want us to know that information, then they just wouldn't have told us that. But they wanted us to know, obviously, that the DNA with his supposed child was not a match.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And so I think what they were trying to do is basically make this out to be, oh, this is why this happened. He got bad news that that's not his child. And so that's why he did it. But with all the other context, especially with the 2019 incident, which was obviously a cover-up, I think that has a major role in this. The other thing is...
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Have you heard of the Unplugged phone? Yeah. And for anybody that wants to purchase this phone, you can get it at unplugged.com slash Sean Ryan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I started receiving a lot of messages, uh, from one of the redacted names. Who's a DA agent. The one that he's talking about in the, in the email to you, we got it from multiple sources. One of which was actually a videographer for me. I think four years ago, he worked for me a very short period of time. Uh, I had to let him go. He went to, he joined the army, went to OCS, became an army officer.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Sent me a text, super freaked out. Apparently he was on some rafting trip with somebody that knows the DEA officer and said, hey, this guy's still operational. He wants his name redacted. Not the only one. Then I received a message from another very close friend of mine who's been on the show several times saying that he got word that this guy was still operational.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And so that's why we decided to redact his name. I was getting upset because I didn't receive any communication up to that point. Well, then I checked my LinkedIn. I said, let me see if this guy actually messaged me. Sure as shit, that DEA agent did message me, said that he wanted to talk to me before tomorrow's interview. It was really important. We tried to contact him, not from my phone.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Yeah. So the unplugged phone keeps big tech from monitoring your texts and your calls. There's a secure messaging app in there. There's a secure email. So get that thing wired up. Absolutely. Let's talk on that from now on. Okay. And then everybody gets a bag of these. Been waiting for this. Nice. This is awesome. Thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome. Very cool.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I'm not calling any of these people, but from somebody else's phone. He didn't pick up and we weren't going to send any text thread to show any communication between us any more than the LinkedIn message. And I didn't hit him on LinkedIn. So that also 100% checks out. Now, the weird thing is, as anonymous as this guy wants to remain,
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
if i remember correctly he posted something about the green beret that that that i'm off yeah that was his latest post well jeremy what was it what did the post It was just, yeah, it was just a report of the story. So very interesting how all this stuff is lining up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Look at that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Well, they definitely got in touch with CID. Yeah, they did. Because that went all the way to the top of the Army. And I'm going to dig in a little bit more on this report from 2019. However, according to international humanitarian law, including international customary law,
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Facilities that contribute economically or financially to the war effort or of a party to a conflict are considered civilian objectives. The report jointly produced by UNAMA and the UN Human Rights Office concludes that the drug facilities associated with workers may not be lawfully made the target of attack and should be protected. The United Nations maintains
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
But all right, let's dive into it. This is going to be kind of tough. I didn't have, like I said, I was interviewing yesterday, so we're kind of winging it here. Yeah. So before we jump in, I just want to say a couple things about today. And we're not necessarily validating what came in on that email.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
that considering these objectives and individuals, legitimate targets dangerously erode the fundamental principle of distinction, placing the broader civilian population and infrastructure at risk. The report sets out a number of recommendations, including that the appropriate and legal response to illicit drug activity is through law enforcement, not military operations that endanger civilians.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I think we should take a quick break. I want to scrape our email to see if this Green Beret, what's his name again? Matt Livelsberg. Matt Livelsberg. Let's see if Matthew Livelsberger sent us an email through our website email desk. We'll be right back. I know everybody out there has to be
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source. It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter. Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign super bad. She's made two different appearances here on The Sean Ryan Show.
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#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind blowing. And so I've asked her if she would, contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
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#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
So it's gonna be all things terrorists, how terrorists are coming up through the southern border, how they're entering the country, how they're traveling, what these different terrorist organizations throughout the world are up to. And here's the best part, the newsletter is actually free. We're not gonna spam you. It's about one newsletter a week, maybe two if we release two shows.
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#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
The only other thing that's going to be in there besides the Intel brief is if we have a new product or something like that. But like I said, it's a free CIA intelligence brief. Sign up. Link's in the description or in the comments. We'll see you in the newsletter. Thank you for listening to The Sean Ryan Show.
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#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
If you haven't already, please take a minute, head over to iTunes, and leave The Sean Ryan Show a review. We read every review that comes through, and we really appreciate the support. Thank you. Let's get back to the show. All right, Sam, we're back from the break. We did do a scrape of the email. Here is what we got. He actually did email us.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
This came in on December 29th, 2024 at 10.17 p.m., emailed through the support desk on SeanRyanShow.com. And by the way, all these emails will be posted on my ex-account, SeanRyan762, and your ex-account? Samus Hoare. All right, here's the message traffic. Hey man, this is an active duty SFTM sergeant out of 10th. I want to blow the whistle on our activities in a certain place.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
There's some pretty alarming stuff that came out in the email about the drones that we're seeing on the East Coast and some capabilities that China has, capabilities that we have. Some activity that went on in Afghanistan in 2019, which actually we do have news reports that that is valid. A lot of this stuff actually really lines up, but we can't give it 100% credibility.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I'm willing to sit down with you on the 31st and flag staff. Or do it remotely via phone. Must be done before the 31st as I'll be leaving. So we'll be sending this to the FBI as well. Love your contact. I'm also going to hit some people I know over there. But these people don't always talk. So I think it would be good to keep some continuity here. So we did receive an email. What was this, guys?
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Yeah, I was going to throw that up there, but there's tens of thousands of messages in there. Yeah. I mean, it's very obvious why he did this, I think. He wanted to bring attention to the incident in 2019 that got covered up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Well, the other thing is maybe the FBI wasn't in his phone. I mean, this guy's obviously very competent. I mean, he's got a TSSCI clearance, I'm sure, with a polygraph. He's been associated with USASOC. Obviously, he was on this operation in 2019. By the way, the general in charge of that was General Miller. You'll see that in the email that we post on X later after this interview comes out.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
You know, maybe he changed his number on purpose and switched phones because he obviously was tipped off or conducted his own counter surveillance and caught Homeland or FBI tracking him. And so I think there's a very good possibility that this, that Matthew Livelsberger might be still alive.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
The Desert Eagle, you know, the Desert Eagle. I mean... Yeah, a little over-the-top firearm.
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#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
But if you think about it, if he was going to kill himself or whoever was in that car was going to kill himself, look, if I was going to commit suicide with a firearm, I would go with the biggest possible bullet, caliber of bullet that I could to make sure that it actually worked because I wouldn't want to be sitting there choking all over myself with a fucking 9mm or something. True. So...
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I think you would agree with that as an intelligence analyst. 100%. And then additionally, there are a few names too, I believe, that we are redacting from this because they are still operational. And as much as I would love to release those names, we're not going to do it so that those guys can remain undercover and not burn their entire operation of what they're into right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
That is, as far as I know, a .50 caliber Desert Eagle is the biggest handgun caliber that you can get. And so that could play into this as well. There's a lot going on. Was there something in that email, again, that said that this would prevent World War III with the UAP drone?
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I wonder what he's trying to do with these, what he's trying to tell us with these drones.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Well, you have the stuff with Ryan Graves and is it Dan, Dan Favor, Dave Favor?
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#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
The Commander David Favor, who, you know, was it the Nimitz? Yeah, the Nimitz strike group in 2004 that reported those UAPs coming out of the water and had no propulsion system. Right, I remember that. But, you know, and it's interesting that nobody seems to know what the drones are, and it just, you know, kind of disappeared out of the media.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And, you know, and the other thing is we do have the capability to take these drones out. Well, everybody was trying to figure out what the drone's on. I brought on... a very prominent businessman, Joe Lonsdale, who is the co-founder of a company called Epirus. Epirus is a they manufacture these directed EMP weapons that can take out
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
a hundred drones at a time, uh, with a, with a, with a basically sends out a simultaneous, um, different, different, uh, directed EMP weapons brought him on. He's also, uh, founder of Palantir, big AI platform that the military has been using. Sure. Uh, that kind of revolutionized warfare. Big fan. So, so we could have taken those drones out in any moment in time. In fact, uh,
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I know those are deployed. So that could be. So he had two objectives. One, he definitely wanted to bring light to 2019. That obviously affected his code of morale, morals. And the drones. Yeah. And he's obviously very worried about world war three, which I think everybody right now, but why, why Trump hotel?
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I mean, it's very obvious. Look, the guy's got great tradecraft. I mean, he changed his signal number, if that was him, or whatever the contact number on signal. 20 plus year in special operations at the highest level. picked a car that's bulletproof to do this. I think, yeah, there definitely wasn't mass casualties.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And there was one more thing. I want to give a little background on you. Retired from the Army in 2023 as a CW2 intelligence officer and understand the information war. In 2020, you were still on active duty. You started a social media account where you intended to share memes and gifs. Despite your intentions, the account grew into what it is today. You've developed, what is the account's name?
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
He wasn't trying to hit mass casualties, mass casualties, because otherwise he would have done it at another location as well, or the bomb would have been bigger to take the entire building down. And so this definitely wasn't In my opinion, this definitely wasn't incompetence.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Yeah, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Wow. Do you think there was any correlation between him and the New Orleans attack? No. I don't either.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
You know, I wonder... I don't really believe in coincidences. And both of these explosions happened on the same day. Or both of these attacks, whatever you want to call them, happened on the same day. The attack and the explosion, which obviously wasn't meant to be an attack.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
It's an Instagram account. It goes by Terminal CWO. Terminal CWO. You've developed a robust network of service members across the Department of Defense who trust you with their reports of unethical and, in some cases, illegal behavior from their leaders.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
You know, this email, I wonder who else he reached out to. This came in from... dabber g m i b or mlb at protonmail.com so it was even using an encrypted email service but which i think everybody everybody in intelligence and special operations knows what proton mail is
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Didn't take long. Jan 1, it hit. It's interesting. We couldn't get any mainstream media outlets to pay attention to those interviews, and nobody would really give Sarah a voice. Now everybody wants to give Sarah a voice because, oh, guess what? The fucking CIA targeter was actually right. Mainstream media gave her no attention. So that's been going crazy. I come in yesterday for an interview.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
You expose the unethical and illegal behavior while protecting whistleblowers in order to hold military leaders accountable, which is why you received the email from the Green Beret. Yes. And because of your background, you come across wild information all the time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
So we now have Iranian missiles, who knows how many, inside the United States.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
You're here today because of an email you received from Matthew Livelsberger a couple of days before the Cybertruck bombing at Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas. You'll also be able to discuss what you know about The terrorists who conducted the New Orleans attack, did it miss anything?
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
know i mean i'm with you on the not releasing certain things on social media i understand that but on the other way on the other hand it seems to be the only way to demand any type of accountability or get this and and enforce fbi homeland whoever else is involved to dive into this and actually take part that's what we've been doing here on the show with scott mann uh retired lieutenant colonel green beret
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Sarah Adams, former agency targeter. We brought on Legend, who's an Army intelligence guy who goes by Legend because he doesn't want to reveal his name because he still is very involved. And we even went all the way to Vienna to interview Commander Massoud, the leader of the National Resistance Front in Afghanistan. And You know, we've been talking about this stuff for a year, a year.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
We got it to Congress, Congressman out of Knoxville, Tennessee, Tim Burchard sent a bill up. It's literally about, we need to stop funding the Taliban, 40 to $87 million a week. The Taliban has set up multiple NGOs within Afghanistan. And basically what we're doing is sending loads of cash
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
to ngos that the taliban had set up we're funding our own demise and nobody's paying attention nobody's paying attention we tried to get it in the media we got a little bit of hits most of them were um uh from from outside the us we had a a report around india kind of cover it but We've been warning about what's happening for damn near a year now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Sarah first came on, I believe it was October of 2023, was her first interview. And nobody took it seriously. Now we have the New Orleans attack. We have Iranian missiles. We have these invisible bombs. Do you know about the invisible bombs? No.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
So now these terrorist organizations have developed invisible bombs that will get through metal detectors, any kind of screening device that's out there, and they brag about this. And now we just did a Twitter Spaces with Sarah Adams, and they are now bragging that – That what we know about the invisible bomb, it's now even more advanced than it was before.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
So that means they can get this into stadiums. They can get this into airports. They can get this pretty much anywhere they want because you cannot detect it. That's scary. Yeah. Great. So, you know, for the people out there, you know, look, there's no stopping what's here. You cannot stop this. Nope.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Not with what we have already in here. We have sleeper cells. We're already getting reports that We're already getting reports that – I just lost my train of thought. Oh, we're already getting some reports that there may be more involved in the Louisiana, New Orleans attack that they're not releasing. We also – I'll tell you this. There's a group of people flying around and –
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And basically briefing up different departments, governors about what's coming, how to deal with it in their communities. There are deputies in New Orleans who put in requests for training on how to take care of a threat like this. And those fucking requests were denied. They were denied. And so what I basically want to say is it's going to be a bloody 2025. I think that's very obvious.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And so for those of you that are looking for something to do and, and if, if, if finally come to the realization that our government is failing us, Here's what you need to do. You need to get with your local communities. You need to, especially schools. Schools are very vulnerable.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
No matter how many active shooters we have in the schools, the infrastructure that's been put in, which is minimal to none, a lot of schools still have none, you better start holding your schools accountable and you better start raising hell and having them
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Perfect. One other thing that I just wanted to say to the audience is even though we are redacting these names from the episode, you pass that, I believe you pass that email on to the FBI. Yes. We're also going to pass it on to our contacts at the FBI. It's very obvious that people know it. Like I said, the CID has been telling everybody.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
upgrade security no matter what the cost because no matter what the cost is it's not gonna it's it's not gonna amount to the loss of life that we will potentially see uh throughout the united states and so and Start calling your congressmen. Get these guys to do something. Start calling your senators. Get these guys to do something.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
They have been warned for over a year that this is coming and nobody wants to take it seriously. Nobody wants to take it seriously. We contacted the House of Foreign Affairs Committee. They did like a Zoom call. A Zoom call. Just for a little media hit. Our government is failing us. And so it's in our hands now. It's your kids. It's your wife. It's your husband. It's your parents.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
They're going to pay the price for what we have installed in this country. And it's now up to us because they aren't going to do anything. So on that note, like I said, it'll be on my ex-account, SeanRyan762. The emails will be there. The footage will be there. Any of the stuff we talked about will be there. It'll be obviously on audio, on YouTube. And your accounts on Instagram and X are...
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
And once again, Sam, I really appreciate you coming out. I wonder if this fucking guy is still alive.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
In fact, we talked to Jeremy, who's sitting over there, my producer, me, him, and my attorney, Tim Parlatori. We're up till about 1030 last night talking to the chief of staff. The army chief of staff's POA took a major interest in this as well. And, you know, one of the things that he said was, Maybe... I'll wait till later to bring that up. But he... I don't know.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
I don't trust any of these people. I mean, public affairs officers are there to... I'll keep my mouth. Yeah. Create... Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Let's recreate what the story is. But you know what's interesting? Fuck it. I'm just going to say it. You know what he said? He goes, on the call, he said, I didn't talk to him. I didn't want to talk to him. But- So I had them talk to him. He said, between me and you guys, this guy's DNA didn't match his son. And made it sound like it's some big secret.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Then at 9.34 p.m., I saw, I think it was 9.34 p.m., the New York Post had a headline that said that this guy's... So they're trying to make it sound like this guy did this because...
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Sam Shoemate, welcome to the show, man. Appreciate it. Thank you. I'm nervous about this one. Yeah, me too. I'm really nervous about this one. So yesterday I come into work and our stuff's been exploding because of the Sarah Adams. I had Sarah Adams, Scott Mann, legend, did an interview with Massoud kind of warning everybody about It's going to be a lot of terrorism here in 2025.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
The first thing I do is talk to my producer, Jeremy, and he says that, He's been in contact with you and that you had received some type of manifesto or email from the Green Beret that set off the car bomb at Trump Hotel in Las Vegas. Right. Jump in an interview and come out. My phone is blown up. apparently CID army CID, which is how would you describe it? It's like the, it's FBI light.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
While you're digging through that, you know what we should do? I should get that Instagram account from you to see if they messaged any of our Instagram accounts, and we should also get that email address. I don't have it. I deleted it. You deleted it. He told me to delete it, and I deleted it. Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
We should also get that email address and see if they sent it in through the website and see if he tried to contact us, get that to the FBI.
Shawn Ryan Show
#155 Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
Yeah. I get all these messages from these people that say CID is talking to this person and that person. And one of these guys on the list is still, uh, still operational and they want his name redacted and, Every Green Beret I know is texting me about this. Fucking really freaked me out, man. It was like, how did this leak? Who's tracking my fucking phone? All that kind of stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
See, that's what I see. I see a bunch of bureaucrats that don't actually give a shit about veterans. They only give a shit about the VA. And not that the VA is actually doing its job. I mean, I've got a stat written down here. There are 480,000 VA employees, and there are 450,000 active duty army. Yeah, that's about right. That's about right.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Veterans all over the country have been dying, waiting to get treatment, commit suicide, dying, you know, because they can't get. So with 480,000, that's 30,000 more than the active Army members. how can't they, why can't they get in? Or why couldn't they get in?
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
You better believe it. Perfect. Perfect. Well, before we get too far into the weeds here, everybody gets a gift. All right. Even the secretary of the VA. All right. There we go. I love it. Vigilance League gummy bears made in the U.S., and they're legal at all 50 states. I love it. Don't worry about feeling weird after you have some of those or anything. I love it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
How is that going to work? How do I do that? How do I use the VA to pay for my community health care in the civilian market?
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
But, all right, so everybody gets an introduction too, so. All right. Doug Collins, Secretary of the VA. You are the 12th Secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs confirmed by the Senate in February of 2025 to lead the charge for our nation's veterans. You earned a degree in political science and criminal justice from the University of North Georgia.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
480,000 VA employees, and there are 450,000 active duty army. That's 30,000 more than the active army members. I hope you're taking this in, because I am the guy you're trying to reach. Secretary Collins, welcome to the show. Sean, glad to be here, bud. It's an honor to have you here. So, the new Secretary of the VA. Yep. Lots of stuff to work on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Well, I think a lot of people don't know how to use the VA system. I'm one of them. Yeah. I mean, and I want to get into this later, but I mean, even just to get the initial, to get the benefits, to go through the doctor's appointments, to, you know, oh, my shoulder's messed up. I got tinnitus. I got TBI. I did it. whatever, all those, what do they call those, the initial appointments?
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
The consults, yeah. Yeah, the consults. You know, a lot of vets, they don't even know how to get into the consults. Or then you get in the consults, and it's almost like a damn interrogation. And it's like, I'll give you an example. They denied my tinnitus. I'm a Navy SEAL. I shot a lot of guns. I blew a lot of shit up. I've seen a lot of combat. I have fucking tinnitus. Sorry, lady.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
I don't know what the hell you're talking about. You can't even test for that. Just give me the tinnitus. Look at my service record. They deny it. And then I got to go find... Then I got introduced to this woman, Peggy Matthews, Veterans Advocacy Services. She's like...
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
probably 80 years old, runs it, is like an angel to me and my guys because she's the one that can take our package, turn it into something, and somehow, some way, she gets it fast-tracked through the VA. But for us to try to navigate the Veterans Administration, it's impossible. Why should we have that, Sean?
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Representative from Georgia's 9th Congressional District from 2013 to 2021. You're a veteran who served as a chaplain in the Air Force Reserve
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
including a deployment to iraq in 2008 with the 94th air wing you remain a colonel in the air force reserve you're a husband and a father and most importantly a christian and some of the things that you've already done you've already cut dei programs and shifted 14 million dollars to va health care and caregiver support set up telehealth and remote and rural areas change the flag policy to only american and pow flags
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
And over 1 million disability claims in 2025 already. That's two weeks faster than the normal that we've seen. What are some of the things that you want to change about the VA? I have right now the size and scope of the VA. I know your DOGE advisor is here somewhere today. And so what does that look like?
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
As far as care and some of these other treatments that we're talking about, is there any way that the VA can partner with somebody other than Other than, I don't know who you guys partner with, the American Legion. We listed a whole bunch of them that the modern day warfighter veteran does not use anymore. They're all using, we are all using mom and pop nonprofits.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
So I brought up, you know, how are you guys going to get, how are you going to get people into the VA system more and get them to their initial appointments where they get their disability?
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Is it going to be, it sounds like it's going to be very bureaucratic and hard to push through. So is there a way to get nonprofits like Veterans Advocacy Services some type of a grant or give the veterans some type, to where they can, hey, Peggy knows the system. She can get guys through. She can help guys through. She can, I mean...
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Is there a way that the VA can partner with these smaller mom-and-pop organizations and fund them so that they can get a bigger team and to get more vets pushed through?
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Okay. Because it's like I mentioned before, nobody trusts the VA. Right. When they go to somebody like Peggy, she's like a protector. Mm-hmm. Guys like me, just about everybody that's been on the show that's been to work, they trust her, they know that she's gonna protect them through that process. They know that if something goes bad, Peggy's got it. You know what I mean?
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
So how would you partner with a nonprofit for that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
What about nonprofits for treatments? There's a lot of nonprofits out there that have great treatment programs that are proven to work. Like I had mentioned, that's probably the biggest one that I know of that's doing psychedelic stuff. There's Tom Satterly. He's a former Delta guy. He's got the All Secures Foundation. Very therapeutic experience. Lots of coaching. That's been working.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Is there a way where... Because it sounds, look, I get it. Like, you guys can't just be like, oh, we're doing Ibogaine treatments now. I realize that's going to be an act of Congress and the Senator, however it works, to get that through. But, you know, maybe there's a way where the veteran can, look, maybe there's a voucher program or something where I want to try this nonprofit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
And maybe those nonprofits get...
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
I'm kind of certified from the VA. And the VA says to the veteran, I'm not going to give you the money. But when you go to vets, when you go to All Secure Foundation, when you go to Veterans Advocacy Services, when you go to any of these nonprofits that are approved, look, you want psychedelic therapy for your traumatic brain injury? We're going to give you the voucher.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
You pick which nonprofit you want to use it for. And then they email in some kind of a document that says, hey, we sent this person down. I mean, that would streamline it so fast because then those nonprofits don't have to focus so much on fundraising so they can get these guys down there and women down there to do these things or their therapy or their whatever. And then the VA...
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
I hope you're taking this in because I am the guy you're trying to reach. Yeah. And not only would that work with the treatment, but it would also help build the trust back within the VA because guys like me don't trust the VA. We just don't. But we do trust Tom Satterly, who is a retired Delta operator. He's seen it all. He has seen it all.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
And I know that he has my best interest because he's my friend or my friend is his friend. And everybody looks up to guys like Tom or Marcus Capone, who's running vets with the psychedelic stuff. If the VA can be an interim... and say, yes, we're aware of what they're doing, they're on our list, we have a partnership with them, we want you to do that, here, go.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
That is a big step in getting guys like me to trust the VA again. And then hopefully, all these nonprofits can go away because the problem's solved. And once this shit's all passed through Congress, then we don't even need those nonprofits anymore. Because hopefully they all wind up going away because the problem's fixed.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
But in the interim, it's a great way, one, to get the treatment, two, to build the trust back.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Yeah, you know, Got a whole slew of complaints about the VA. And, you know, it's funny, but it's not. I mean, I haven't stepped into a VA. I got 100%. I haven't stepped into a VA in almost 10 years because my experience has been just atrocious. It was, here's these pills. We can't see you.
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
What was your conversation like with Bobby Kennedy about psychedelics?
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
I mean, I remember just going to my, I can't even remember what they call the appointments where you go in and you get checked out. Your consultations and stuff. Yeah, the consultations. I'm having doctors come to me. They don't even know what a Navy SEAL is. They're asking me why I didn't go to medical when I'm attached to a FOB base. They don't understand what combat is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
What is the... What is the plan? Like with psychedelics, what is the plan moving forward? How does it get introduced into the VA? What needs to happen?
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
My doctor shows up in a sweatsuit, barely even speaks any English. And it's just time and time again. And then if you know anything about my show, it started with all special ops combat veterans. And everybody has the same complaints and the same issues. And it is created. Look, I don't know any one of my friends. And I have friends with the top war fighters on the planet.
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
None of them have a good experience at the VA. None of them have anything positive to say about the VA. None of them trust the VA. And that's why I quit going. I mean, I have more friends that have died of suicide and drug addiction and depression and PTS. And everybody's struggling, especially the special operations guys, with the traumatic brain injuries. And we just aren't getting anything.
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Yeah, I'll bet it is, probably even more than I know. But, so we got a bunch of stuff to talk about today, a whole lot of topics to cover, but I'm just, how did Secretary of the VA pop up on your radar?
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Thank you. Thank you.
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
answers at all from the VA. And then it's just created this distrust. So what I do with my check is I buy my own health care instead of use the VA because I don't trust the system. I don't like the system. I get treated like shit when I go there. like I'm faking an injury or something. And so I just got to the point where I just threw my hands up and I was like, man, fuck this. I'm not doing it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
I will personally pay for my own healthcare on the civilian side, which is much, much better than anything I've ever had in the VA. And so, and then you see a lot of these therapies and I want to dive into this too, but I mean, I'm just going to share my experiences with you because I think you need to know. And I mean, I just talked about traumatic brain injury.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
I mean, these guys have been breaching doors with high explosives for 20 years. They can't remember where the hell they are. They can't remember what they're doing. The short-term memory loss. They drive somewhere. They're driving their kids somewhere. They forget where the hell they're going. They're...
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
That sounds good. That sounds real reassuring. What about the burn pits? You know, a lot of I mean, there's all these weird cancers popping up. It's like every day I got a new buddy that's got cancer, that died of cancer, that's got stage four cancer. Nobody knows what it's from.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
A lot of people think it's from the burn pits or the vicinity around high explosives, breathing in that shit, especially in Afghanistan. The burning tires to keep warm, we breathe that in. I remember spitting in the sink, and my spit was gray because I had breathed in so much crap. I mean, it sounds like there's something going on there with the burn pits.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
they when i say they i mean we you know we're temperamental we're quick to fly off the handle there's chemical imbalances there's the burn pit and now All these different, I mean, it's across the board. I mean, you're seeing all these nonprofits that are stood up by veterans, and they're the ones that are actually taking care of us. It's not the VA.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
And psychedelic therapy is one of the big ones that we've seen a tremendous amount of benefit from, especially with traumatic brain injury. I mean, Stanford did a study, fly these guys down. They do a brain scan. They fly these guys down to Mexico. doing Ibogaine treatment. My friend Trevor's, he's Ambio Life Sciences. There's all these black holes in the brain, you know, on the brain scan.
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
So with all these cuts, it's a... Was it 83,000 jobs right now are on the line at the VA? There's about 15%, so give or take around, that's what we're looking at. And so that money... that's going to those jobs that just won't disappear. That will get, no, that will get reallocated into something else like healthcare.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
They go down there where their brain's not working. They do the Ibogaine treatment. They fly them back up to Stanford. Oh, magically, the entire brain is lit up. I mean, I just want to, I have to tell you some of this stuff because it's important. One of my best friends of all time, I've known him for probably,
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
at least 15 years, we contracted at CIA together, retired Green Beret, sustained one of the biggest blasts I've ever seen somebody walk out alive from, massive traumatic brain injury. Then he gets shot in the head. His wife called. He's been hiding this stuff. His wife calls me, and she's like, Sean, He's bedridden five to six days a week. He can't walk without a cane because he has vertigo.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
He can't go outside even on a cloudy day without his sunglasses because the light sensitivity is so bad. We haven't had sex in over two years. He goes down there. Nobody can help him. Nobody at the VA can help him. He goes down there. He does the Ibogaine treatment. He leaves his cane there at the facility. He comes home. He doesn't need the cane anymore. Doesn't need the sunglasses.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Is not bedridden at all anymore. All the vertigo is gone. And then he goes home, has sex with his wife. And that was probably nine months ago. Mm-hmm. same it was like one week to fix that and i don't even i don't know i mean like i said i haven't stepped foot in the v i just gave up on it yeah but why why aren't they looking at stuff like that that actually works
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Instead of doing the same old shit. Oh, here's some pills. Here's this. Let's go do a brain scan. Oh, we don't have any answers. And it's discouraging. And, you know, that's not the only nonprofit. That's Vets that I'm talking about. Veterans Exploring. I can't remember. It's Vets.
Shawn Ryan Show
#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Vets.org. But treatment solutions. Yeah. Why isn't the VA getting, I mean, and then we have the veteran suicide epidemic, and the numbers are all over the board. They say 22 a day. I hear reports that it's actually 40 a day when you start looking at the overdoses and stuff like that. So what's the plan here? When was the last time you checked on your home title?
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
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#187 Doug Collins - United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Is the chief of base hearing this, Bob? Yes, it's all on the talk, because they're open mics. I mean, so he's hearing this, and he's still not letting you go. He's not letting us go. What was the relationship like to him before this night?
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Now, I don't know if he's still doing that. Are you fucking kidding me? They took that fucking clown and put him at the farm to train all the upcoming guys?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What a fucking joke. I know. What a fucking joke. Take that guy and put him in charge of the fucking up-and-coming case officers. Wow. And that's why that fucking agency doesn't do shit anymore.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What if?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What do you think he thinks about every day?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What do you mean God kicked you in the ass and said, get up? Quit whining. Quit feeling like a victim. Is that a feeling you got? Is that a voice you heard?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Oh, no, you're good. Everybody gets one. Chris Peranto, former Army Ranger, 2nd Battalion, 75th Regiment. You responded to the Benghazi 2012 attack. You're the author of The Ranger Way and the Patriot's Creed, co-author of 13 Hours, the inside account of what really happened in Benghazi. You're a motivational and public speaker and the co-host on Battleline Podcast.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I know who he is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What I'm asking is, was he— Scared?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I know he was scared. I know who he is. I'm trying to figure out how to ask this question the right way.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I guess what I'm trying to ask was, did you guys even keep him informed? Was he even really part of the team, or have you totally just...
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Like 99% of the staffers in GRS, they're just liaisons. They're not operators. They're just like, just go liaison.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
We don't even really know what you do here. Not qualified to be here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I can't fucking stand them. I can't stand them. It's probably something I'll never get over. The amount of worthless fucks that were in charge of me and you and all these other stellar performers. And then you get these chumps.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I think they were always just supposed to be liaisons, though. And then at some point in time, they inserted themselves to be some fucking leader. And it's like... Back to your desk, go get your fucking pen or your pencil and get the fuck out of my face. And that was him. But you can't say that because they'll fire you. But you can still push.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I did. And then you get fired.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You mean people don't want to watch a pussy pencil pusher write up a real man? I'm going to write you up because I'm not a real man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
That's probably what he was doing before this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You actually felt it in that moment?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You felt it before you started shooting or in the middle of it? In the middle of it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
How long were you there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You inspected his body?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
He was the one that... And everybody knows Leon Panetta was director of CIA at the time. At the time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
How many, I mean, did you guys have any estimate in your head?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
How many do you think there were?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I wasn't expecting to get this deep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What I want to ask, though, is I can see the rage returning right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You guys actually went through this entire checklist.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
So what was the... What was the turning point that kind of eased that rage?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Are you kidding?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You're the founder of the 14th Hour Foundation, owner of Battleline Tactical, and co-owner of Tonto Vodka.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
So it was doing the interviews that brought the rage back.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
How do you feel about doing this interview?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Man, I'll say it's... It's just nice to hear you guys have a healthy respect for each other.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
We'll get there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Wow.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Chris, I mean, you did it out of respect, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What would a normal human being say to you? Nothing. These people, who the hell knows?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I'll get my legs kicked. There's just so many staffers that have no concept of what that might be like. They haven't done it. They've never done anything. Nothing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Did that continue to work?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You only took 60 days off? I took 75.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
That's it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What was the first conversation like with your wife and kids?
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
It fell on deaf ears.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
How long did it take you, Chris, for, I mean, I mean, you were abandoned by the U.S. government.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
How long did it take you to rid yourself of that anger?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
How did you propose to your wife?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Second time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
That right there just tells everybody what a great man you are. I appreciate it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
That is a good woman.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Amazing. Well, Chris, there's a lot more we could dive into, but I think that's a perfect way to end it, brother. I appreciate you. I just want to tell you, man, I saw you speak. I saw how much pain you were in, you know, probably getting close to, Probably getting close to 10 years. Not quite. Where did you... Boca Raton.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I'm just really happy for you, man. Thank you. I can tell you're at peace now, and sounds like you got a great family and an amazing wife, and you deserve it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You're welcome. What is the E3 Firearms Association?
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I was going to wait until the end of the interview. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to jump to that. Well, I mean, you brought it up. Let's do it now. I mean, I've always— I mean, obviously I've been following you guys. I mean, we were in the same profession. Of course, yeah. And I remember after it happened, you guys, you know, you did the book.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
We came out, lots of speaking events. I thought you guys used to speak together.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
And then it seemed like everything kind of, I mean, look, What happened? Why don't you guys get along?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Did you guys butt heads before Benghazi?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Isn't it funny how that's like the common theme amongst every GRS team that the staffer is always the weakest link?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
They get mad at me when I say this stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
We'll get into this later.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Let's move back to Yeah, growing up. We're past childhood. I want to get to this, but I want it to all be in one piece, if that's okay with you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
And so, football, college, what got your interest in the military?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
No kidding.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You literally signed up right there at the job fair.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Holy shit. Talk about an impulse move.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Well, how long did it take you to snap out of that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I left the Army. You left the Army. At the end of 1996. At the end of 1996, and then went back to your hometown?
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Hold on, can I make a prediction? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you meet your current wife there? Get the fuck out of here.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
So you're like depressed at home. Yeah. Drinking yourself to death. Tried to commit suicide with a bottle of Tylenol.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Now your buddy's like, we're going to South Padre Island.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What was the one-liner?
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Chris Peranto, welcome to the show, man.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I did not. I did not know that. You would have not been invited to this show, man.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Well, I mean, there's a caveat to that, too. You know, I mean, what the f*** are people supposed to do? We've defunded the police. The border is wide open. Yeah. They are actively sending $87 million a week to the Taliban. Sorry, man. You know what I mean? But... People have to be able to defend themselves, and that's where they go to do it. And that stuff's out there no matter what.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Were you just like completely devastated that you were a bit discharged again?
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Interesting.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I remember showing up at GRS and everybody was talking about the Bremer.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
And that's where it's just... It's where I can at least have some control, though. You know what I mean? I mean, people are... I 100% get your point.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
And it never changed throughout your entire contracting career.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Arguing tactics.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
But there is context. Things aren't the same as they used to be. Not at all. I mean, the people, it's dangerous out there. I mean, Chicago is the murder capital of the country, and more people are dying there than they did in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
From a bunch of guys that none of them have done personal protection. The other ones that were teaching it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Hey guys, we're going to go on defense now. What's that? What's that? I don't know, figure it out and teach it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
There are not a lot of people that say they've had a great time running up and down Route Irish. One of the few.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
So for those listening that don't know about Route Irish, Route Irish is most likely unanimously. Yeah. the most dangerous road in Baghdad.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What? That was stupid. It was State Department. Six times a day? Six times a day. You had to... Whoa. Six times a day on Route Irish?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Were you guys one of the crews that had the... Which one? I don't know what the answer is. Somebody dressed up like a dinosaur on the back of a truck and rode that thing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
That is like, for running six times a day, time and place predictable with a huge, Buss as a target, I mean, that is incredible.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I'm not diminishing your team, by the way, by saying that it's just luck. I'm just saying.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
We didn't ever stop. Let me say, sorry. No, go ahead. I get yelled at if I don't talk about these acronyms. So an EFP for the audience. An EFP is basically a bomb.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Well, they would even put those thermal sensors on. Yeah. So when they sensed the heat of the engine, that's what would trigger it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
My whole career was pre-kids. And so, I mean, as you know, today was my son's first day at school.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Well, I was expecting like a little, you know, I'm going to miss you, Mom and Dad. No, he's like, I don't give a shit. I'm like, I'll see you guys later. But I am... I... I missed his first open house because I interviewed Trump. And otherwise, there's no way I would have missed it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I'll tell you, man, when my wife sent me pictures of my son with his backpack on walking into that school, I was like, you know. And every time I have an experience like that, I just wonder, like, how the fuck? How did my buddies do it back in the day? How do you... Yeah, how do you rationalize that? I want to know what it's like to come home. You met your son when he was a... When he was a baby.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
My pleasure. I'm just happy you're here and I'm extremely patient.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Chris, let's take a quick break. When we come back, we will get into how you got into the OGA contract. You got it, brother. Perfect. Even though I'm excited for the new administration, there's a lot of tension in the world. Russia, Ukraine, the border, inflation. Who knows what could happen next? Me, I'm not waiting around to find out, and I don't think you should either. Look, it's simple.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Let's get back to the show. All right, Chris, we're back from the break. Yeah. And we just went through... a small portion of your career. Well, I guess not a small portion.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
But now we're getting ready to get into how you got picked up for OGA.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What's executive outcomes?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Oh, that was like the De Beers shit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
That wasn't the De Beers shit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I didn't know Greystone either. Man, dude, I got left in the dark on somebody.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Was it the agency stuff?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Let's talk about Greystone. I've had Eric on here three separate times. We have not talked about Greystone.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Well, Chris, before we get too deep into the interview, everybody gets a gift. Oh, no, man, you're all gifted people. Nothing but hospitality. Oh, man. They're gummies. That's right. Those are legal in all 50 states. Fortunately, or maybe unfortunately for you, I don't know. But they are made here in the USA. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah, so there you go. Some Vigilance League gummy bears.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Gotcha.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
For those listening, OGA stands for Other Government Agency. So we weren't calling it. We're getting into the intelligence world.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Those are hard to come by, by the way.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
It's probably better you don't.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Oh, maybe different.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Nice.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
A broom handle is a forward grip that goes on the front of an AR-15.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Oh, damn, those old school ones.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You're welcome. One last thing before we get in. I got a Patreon account. They're my top supporters. They've been here with me since the beginning. And they're the reason I'm here and you're here. So one of the things I do is I give them the opportunity to ask each guest a question. Uh-oh. And so this one is from Moose. What's up, Moose?
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Okay, well. Standard issue, call sign.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
I think these are different calls.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Basically, what he's talking about is there's a slot that we call the credit card. The credit card. In the head. The prefrontal cortex lobe, right? The eyes. So if you hit outside of the credit card, you're done. You're done.
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#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What was it like for you to see the Obama administration blatantly lie about something you saw firsthand? Blame the attack on something unrelated and refuse to call it a terrorist attack? How did it feel to be on the ground at the annex and realize that help was not coming? Let's do one question first.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Man, I forgot we called it the secondary.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
What... When did you realize that the OGA contract was for CIA?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
A private training area within a private training area.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
So we were at the same spot all the way in the back. Yep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
We can skip that. We'll do that. We'll do that. Okay, so give me a number because the feeling— What was it like for you to see the Obama administration blatantly lie about something you saw for the first time?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah. It was awesome. Those were good times. Yeah, yeah. Those were good times, for the most part.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Favorite place in Afghanistan or favorite place?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah, that was a good place to work. It was, it was.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Let's move into, let's move into Libya.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
You ready?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, let's do it. You want to skip right to it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Well, Chris, I want to do a life story on you. Yeah. And obviously talk a lot about Benghazi and what you're doing now, but we're going to cover the full spectrum here. And so everybody starts off with an introduction.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#153 Kris Paronto - Inside the 13-Hour Benghazi Gunfight and the Hillary-Obama Cover-Up
These are the state guys?
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I pulled it out.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Does it show that I'm not doing that? I should be doing that. Yes. What is regular?
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And, you know, it was an honor to meet you and have you here. And I hope we remain friends.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Is this through marketing?
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
How did you – I don't want to get too far in the weeds because we're just starting out. Okay, right. I know we'll get more into this, but I am – I don't want to forget this question. I mean, how the hell did you even – like, where did it – who comes up with, like – I mean, to me, this is like – You ask more questions. To me, this is psychedelics.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Who picked up the toad and rubbed it and ate the venom or smoked the venom? Who came up with that? How did you find hydrogen and its benefits?
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
If you don't mind, I'd like to divulge a little bit more into that because we don't have to. We don't want to. But when I went on your podcast, you kind of told me the story a little bit more in depth. And I just want to say it's very commendable and very noble of you how you left the insurance company. And it sounded like it came down to...
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
a single patient, or maybe not a patient, but one of the insurance customers. And so could you go into that a little bit more in depth?
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Well, I appreciate that. There's a lot of history in here from a lot of our guests and from my prior careers, and But, hey, I had a great time at your podcast, too. I mean, we were joking downstairs. I've never been talked into getting in another man's bathtub. Yeah, we became best friends that day, brother. You're like, you got to get in here. It's hydrogenated water.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
know i mean i'm gonna plug something okay and uh i don't get paid for this we we had a conversation downstairs about about plugs and yeah and all that kind of stuff and i just want to say you know what you told me i mean for anybody listening gary is one of the most authentic people i've ever met and thank you you stand behind every product and we had a long conversation about that downstairs and
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And, you know, I've been talking about this Yuca app. I think I brought it up on your podcast and I brought it up on Joe's pod, Joe Rogan's podcast. And I actually reached out to try to partner with them and they don't have the funding to do it.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
But I don't fucking care, man, because whatever they're doing, you know, it's helping re-educate the population about, you know, hey, this is all the shit that's in your food. All you have to do is download that app It's free. You scan a barcode, and the first thing it tells you is, these are all the additives. This is what it does. And then all the other health stuff is below the additives.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
But me and my wife redid our entire kitchen on that. And it's just a great way to educate the population. And I know that's your whole... That's what you do. And you do want to help people. And so I want to plug that. But... But moving on, we were just talking about vaccinations and kids, and this is something that my wife and I go round and round about. We don't know what to do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
We don't know who to trust. Ever since COVID, I have zero, zero confidence in anything that the U.S. government tells me. nothing. In fact, it's so bad, and I know this isn't the right thing to do, but it's almost like I do the opposite. It's like, they say do this, fuck that, I'm doing this. They're obviously lying, I'm not doing it. Oh, you say that's good for me, it's probably fucking horrible.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And But with that being said, it's atrocious. Nobody really knows where to find truth in a variety of topics and genres. But at the forefront of all of this in my family, because I have two little kids, And we don't know what to do with the vaccinations. Yeah. I'll send you a good book on the good vaccine schedule.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I mean, they 100% don't have our best interests. We just went over this with the insurance companies. Well, they definitely don't. You know? So, I mean, they're the elites. They do not have our best interests.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
They tell us, you have to get these vaccines or we won't see your kids. I know. Now my kid's not in network. What the fuck am I supposed to do if he gets really sick or he breaks his arm or where am I going? Yeah. Nobody will take me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Gary Brekka, it's an honor to have you here, man. Dude, it's such an honor to be here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Wow. Real quick, just rewinding. What advice do you have for parents like me on vaccinations?
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Another question, follow-up question. A lot of people took the COVID vaccine. A lot of people regret taking the COVID vaccine. I can't even believe I'm admitting this. I took the COVID vaccine. I was worried my son was about to be born. Hospital rules. I was like, there is no way in hell I'm going to miss the birth of my son.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
So I took it because I was worried they would require it and I would miss the birth of my son. But all the other shit I've done in my life, I went into the drugs and all that stuff on your podcast. You know, I was like, well, if that didn't kill me, this isn't going to fucking kill me. Right. But, you know, and I don't feel like I have any side effects.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
So what I want to ask is, is there... Is there any reversing that? Is there anything that people can do? I've heard a lot about this. Actually, I'm going to go do plasma exchange.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And is there anything people can do to clean their blood or clean their system out with prior vaccinations? Yes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
On that note, let's take a quick break. All right, Gary, we're back from the break. Yeah. You are blowing my mind here with all this information. Let's switch gears a little bit. Okay. You brought up something about evolution at the very beginning, and we were kind of talking about faith. And so I want you to dive into a little bit about evolution. I've never covered this. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
So I would love to hear what you have to say about that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And then I did it, and I'm like, I'm sitting in there. I'm like, I can't believe I got in this fucking guy's bathtub. And sure as shit, like you told me, hey, if you have any aches, pains, it's all going to go away. And I was like, yeah, right. And I'll be damned, man. Like, I didn't notice it right away. I noticed it the next morning. Yeah, that's how it usually hurts the most.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
You're right. You're right. But we'll get into that here in a bit. I want to, everybody starts off with an introduction here. Okay. Gary Brekka, you're a human biologist, biohacker, and longevity expert with over two decades of experience in optimizing human performance and wellness.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Well, it's working. Thank you. It's working. And I just, you know, we haven't really covered this because, you know, I don't really know where to put it and I don't know how much you want to talk about it. But when we talk about, you know,
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
When we're talking friendly business, how I do things, how you do things, and when I hear you talk about you've walked away from businesses, you've turned advertising deals down, you only talk about what you believe in, whether you're being paid in or not. You just mentioned a lot of the things that you're shouting out, pretty much all of them that we've spoken about. you get nothing out of.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And I think it takes a very authentic person to do that. Thank you. We share a lot of the same values. And there's not a lot of people out there that share those same values. And it's really cool to see. I keep bringing up the Yucca thing because that's my latest thing that I'm really excited about that I would love to be in some type of thing. But I don't care because I do believe that
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
It all comes back around. And if you inject good into this world, then it's going to come back around to you some other way, somehow, some other way. And I think that's important for people to... I know it happens to me. And whether it's... One of the things that I really like doing on this podcast is being able to... I mean, this is how it started because I couldn't reach people like you or...
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
know people that have made a big name for themselves and and i've always rooted for the underdog so i'll find the guy that's you know like we were talking about tyler andrew vargas with his knife company and yeah you know to bring his story out and then display what he's doing now to give him a jet launch into so awesome into the business world i mean i get nothing out of that yeah i mean i get a friendship and uh in a in a new connection i love tyler
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Previously, you were a mortality modeling expert in the insurance industry using medical records and demographic data from 360 million lives to predict lifespans with remarkable precision. Determined to transition from predicting lifespans to extending them, you embarked on a quest to optimize biomarkers and unlock the secrets to a longer, healthier life.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I wish the best for that dude, and I can keep in touch with him. But that comes back around. And you do that too, and that's just really fucking cool to see, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I wish more people knew that about you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Since this transition, you've founded the ultimate human media platform and podcast where you share insight with celebrities, athletes, and scientists.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
You're a consultant to high-profile individuals, including CEOs, professional athletes, and celebrities such as Dana White, John Jones, and Stephen A. Smith, working with a team of experts to optimize mind, body, and spirit through science-backed methods. You're also a husband, a father, and probably most important of all, a man of faith and a Christian.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And I know I'm missing a ton of other information. Those are the highlights. Those are great. And one thing we do is we have a Patreon account. They're They're our top supporters. Many of them have been with us since the beginning. And this whole thing kind of started off in my attic as a hobby. And they have enabled me to grow this into what it is today. So one of the things I offer them is...
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I give them insight into who's coming on the podcast and offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I'm sorry. And eventually I'm going to bring you back to disproving evolution. But anyway, methylfolate, guys.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Get the folic acid out of your diet.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I'm glad we covered that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
This is specifically for you. So this is from Jesse. What do you believe is the most underestimated factor in optimizing longevity and cognitive performance, and how can individuals practically...
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
I have those issues. I grew up taking Adderall and Ritalin. Still took it all the way up to psychedelics and stopped it. But I do have too many windows open. Yeah. Most people do. It's never been explained to me like that. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
No, I struggle with all these. Yeah, so do a lot of your listeners, I promise you. Oh, yeah. I mean, one, I have one of the biggest veteran audiences in the world, in the country. So we all struggle with sleep. So that was super informative.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Fascinating.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
You really do. Yeah. Even for somebody like me to understand. But I would love to hear you disprove evolution. Can we do that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Wow. I didn't know that.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And no shoulder pain, no back pain, no knee pain. And I was like, okay, there's something to this. And I took, like I told you, I took pictures of all the little devices that hydrogenate the water and started Googling around and got in touch with one of the companies and really started researching it. And so,
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
It's so...
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Wow. So you're not eating Bill Gates' fake meat.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Well, that's a fascinating conversation we just had. I got a couple of questions. One was the fasting. I remember, I think we had lunch at your place for the podcast, and you were talking about, you had mentioned something about how fasting I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it sounded like fasting is great for fighting and or preventing cancer. No question. How so?
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
You know, it's interesting. I mean, I think about... Cancer scares the shit, it's probably my biggest fear. And it's like every day, somebody else got cancer, somebody died of cancer, somebody's mom got cancer, somebody's brother got, you know, it's every day. I hear it and it's running rampant amongst veterans. We're getting all these weird cancers.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
And, you know, I just think about, you know, I spent 14 years in and out of war zones and breathing in, you know, I mean, Kabul, Afghanistan. It's in a big valley surrounded by mountains. How do those people keep warm? They burn tires all winter long breathing that shit. I remember spitting in the sink and my fucking spit was black.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
you know water bottles sitting out in 110 115 degree weather in iraq plastic water bottles and drinking that for 14 years and the and the jammers now it's coming out well of course government's suppressing this but of course the jammers uh jammers being the things that disrupt the the signals uh to trigger an ied it'll block any cell phone radio transmissions anything like that which could detonate an id
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Now they're saying that they're saying that potentially that is causing... That's why so many veterans are getting brain cancer because they've been running jammers sitting there while it's pulsing. You know, and... And then, you know, all the ordnance, the explosions, everything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
That's why I was asking about, that's why I'm so interested in blood filtration and plasma exchange to see if I can get some of this heavy metals and all this shit out of my body.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Really?
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
You did.
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#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
Wow. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
All right, Gary, we're back from the break. And so I gave a bunch of blood when I was down there for your podcast. And we're going to go over that. And I'm a little nervous. You're doing fine. You going to give me a life estimation? Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
We're going to put you on liver.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
We read every review that comes through, and we really appreciate the support. Thank you. Let's get back to the show. That was a good conversation.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I have a lot to think about.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Yeah. Any more thoughts on that? Plenty.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Yeah. You know, he just, he sprinkles these things in our lives, like, like your daughter, you know, and it's, I mean, that sounds like a very profound moment, you know? not just because you saved your daughter's life, but spiritually, you know, it's, we're all looking for some type of proof, right? And cause it is, it's hard to believe this stuff. It's, it's just, it is.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
And, but when you get those little, sometimes they're not always little, sometimes they're sloppy on the face, just like what happened to you. I mean, that's, that's what that is. It's, In my opinion, that's what that is. That is, here's what you needed, you know, so that you can believe. And from what I've noticed in my journey, and I'm not very far along in this either.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
It sounds like our childhood was very similar. I mean, I grew up Catholic and I didn't really, you know, it was a hassle to go to church. I didn't want to go. I didn't want to go to Sunday school. I didn't want to do any of that. I never, I never took it seriously until what, I guess about two years ago, you know, and ever since then, like, I just, I'm just always paying attention.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
And I see, now I even see little things that get, that get dropped, you know? And, and I just look at them like, oh, that's, all right, I'm on the right path or that's the sign that I needed. And I think it happens all the time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Yep. Or we're so distracted in our own bullshit that we're not, it's impossible to see it cause we're not, we're not looking. And so the, the, you know, the more I can get out of the noise and, and start paying attention, it's just like having your eyes wide open, you know, everywhere they come, they come all the time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
pretty cool pretty cool stuff especially when you know it's real and you know what it is and you're convicted yeah it's just building that conviction is what's tough yeah though that stuff that you were talking about with earth and though that, that this may be, I just had that conversation or just use that marble reference. Like I think it was last weekend.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I can't remember who the hell I was talking to, but that's just how I envision it. You know, that's just how I envision what's going on in the world and how it's all, how it all plays out. Yeah. But So what got you interested in becoming an astronaut anyways?
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Have we found anything significant that would help sustain human life on the moon or Mars that you're aware of? Not that I'm aware of.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Damn.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
All right. We'll move on. This is from Brian. How did you get your call sign when you got named at your first squadron? And during your time flying the F-16, did you ever fly any CAS missions supporting JTACs on the ground? Love the JTECs.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
What do you tell in your family? They got to be worried about this, right?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Yeah, what's, I mean, how, okay. So how long did it take you to get up there? So. And how exactly did this go? Was the spacewalk at the same altitude as the?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Let's walk, let's walk. So initial entry into space. So even... We kind of touched on this earlier.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
How long are you in there before takeoff? Or before launch. What do you call it, launch? That's a whole different story. I have an old man bladder. Yeah, I was wondering that. I mean, besides that, I mean, I don't know how you were in pre-mission going to combat, but me, I feel like I got to pee like every two minutes. Like, oh, shit, I got to go again. Oh, shit, I got to go.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Like, then you hear the helos, oh, yeah, I got to go.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
But it was a... So you go straight up to... Sorry, yes. Yeah, you go straight to... You said there was some... You did a couple of orbits at a lower altitude and then shot up to, what was it?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
So when you were up there, I mean, could you see the whole earth at once?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
What was the routine up there? Were you guys just, did you have to be, were you doing stuff?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Well, we got plenty. All right, all right. I won't press you. All right, so let's move into the life story here. So I know you were born here in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Chattanooga. When did you move to New Hampshire?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I mean, how much time do you get to... look at Earth and look at the vastness of space. I mean, it's just little glimpses.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
You also suited up as the mission pilot for Polaris Dawn in 2024, a SpaceX mission that took you nearly 900 miles above Earth, the farthest humans have traveled since Apollo, and included the first ever commercial spacewalk. You're a triathlete who has competed in 15 Ironman races, including four world championships in Kona.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
So... Very interesting. Cool stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. Wow. So let's... So the spacewalk. Mm-hmm. So... This was... I mean, that had to scare the shit out of you, right?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Probably not.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Holy shit, by yourself? I thought you'd have a buddy or something.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Yeah. How long do you think it'll be before the majority of Americans have been to space?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
You did. I'll settle for the first podcast in space.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Well, I mean, you know, Elon seems pretty fitting. But, man, that would be really something, wouldn't it? Yeah.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I talk to my wife about this all the time. I think the possibility of our kids going to space is greater than them not. Things are just evolving so fast. I think it'll become the norm before I die. If I live up.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
It's a fascinating subject. It's, I guess, you know, the new frontier. Well, Scott, what a... What an interview, man. Covered a lot of ground there. And man, it was an honor to sit here with you and learn about your life and got into some pretty deep discussions and talking about space and God and everything, man. It's been...
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Thank you. Thank you. All right, Scott. God bless, brother. All right, brother.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Now you live in New Hampshire with your wife, Kristen, and your three children. And most importantly, out of everything we mentioned, you're a Christian. Amen. So welcome to the show once again. If you watch, you know everybody gets a gift. Use these on your next Ironman. I will.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Good chance to lead Gummy Bears. I'll give you a couple more of those to take home. Those are hard to come by. And they're made in the USA. Still legal? They're still legal. We haven't made any changes yet. I don't think we're going to either. But then, so I have just one more thing before we really get going here. So I have a Patreon account. Patreon, it's a subscription online community.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
They have been with us here since the beginning when I was doing this in my attic, when we couldn't get any advertisers, any way to make money. And they're the ones that supported us that got us everything from the cameras to the employees to moving into this to everything. And so one of the things I do in that community is I offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Thank you.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
And they had some good questions. I know. It's the most nerve-wracking question, I'm sure. So this one's for me.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Thank you.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Thank you.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I'm part of the community, too. And so this one's for me. Is that because no one asked a question?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
The original question, I'll ask you too. Okay. But I'm going to ask mine first because I've been dying to talk to an astronaut about this because we do dive into some conspiracies here, as you know. Did we go to the moon or what? I've been wanting to talk to an astronaut about this for, there it is. We have not been back to the moon since 1969. Why haven't we gone back?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
This might be TMI, but yeah. No, I'm like, where does it go?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
And my recommendation is if- How do you concentrate flying a jet while trying like hell to hold vomit down?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
So hold on, does it go, is it like an initial motion sickness, and then you puke, and then it's gone for the rest of the flight? Or is it like the whole thing? It ebbs and flows. So it's like seasickness. You're in it.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Do you know if you're gonna get it before you go to space? So it's a big surprise.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Yeah, I'm with you. I think about that. It's really hard to keep that big of a secret. But why haven't we gone back? I mean, we don't just go anywhere and then like, oh, fuck it. There's nothing here. I don't think we need to come back to the boom. We walked on it for five minutes and we're out. There's nothing to see here. Like, really?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
What got you out the door? The only thing that got me out the door is I didn't want to look like a pussy in front of everybody else.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
And you're scared to death of heights? Oh, man. I got to hear this.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Have you ever, just a random question, you're a diver too, right? You had mentioned you did some scuba diving in school. Have you ever been scared of heights underwater? Have you ever come up like you're diving on the ocean floor and then you hit a ledge?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Do you really? Yeah. I never thought I would. Looking down? Yeah. I remember diving over a ledge once, and I was like, oh, shit. Let's go back over here. Yeah. How deep? I don't know how deep it was. I can't remember. But I do remember the feeling, getting it underwater, which you would think you would never get because you have that...
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
You know, it's not like you're going to fall, but there's just that look off the ledge where you can't see the bottom of it. I love watching those free divers. Yeah, yeah. Holding their breath for five, six minutes. That's pretty wild. Yeah. So what place did you graduate at?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I mean, are we talking like F-16 and C-130?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Yeah.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Is that what you initially wanted? You wanted the F-16? I did. And you got it. Yeah.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Okay, so the speed wasn't anything new to you?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Damn. What's the lowest you've been flying over Mach?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Oh.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
So let's walk back through. Yeah, sorry. No, it's... Let's walk back through. So you said OCA and DCA. What is all that? What are those acronyms?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Yeah, me too. Me too. So I want to do a life story on you and talk about your time in the Air Force, your childhood, get into space. And then who knows what kind of rabbit holes will go down here. But yeah, like I said, thank you for coming. And I'm looking forward to this. So everybody starts off with an introduction here. Scott Kidd Poteet, born in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Gotcha, gotcha. So what section do you start with in school?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Do you get used to certain planes? Oh, yeah. You do? Mm-hmm. Okay, so when you deploy, I mean, I'm getting a little ahead of myself, but, I mean, so you really know the plane? Mm-hmm. You do. And if you jump in another one, you notice differences?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
um infrastructure that you could easily learn one system to the next um i don't mean like an f-16 to an f-15 i mean like can you i mean it's your plane it's like a i don't know it's like if you put somebody else's baseball glove on it's still a baseball glove but it's not your baseball glove you know what i mean yeah is it So if you jump into another F-16, is it the exact same, or is it yours?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
That's an interesting question. Like a rifle. I have my rifle set up the way I like my rifle set up as a SEAL. But if I have somebody else's rifle, I'm like, oh, shit, I can use it, and I can be extremely effective with it, but I would rather have mine. Yeah. It feels different.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Well, I mean, you know what I'm saying, though.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I know my trigger pull. I know everything about it, you know? Right. So you have your name on one aircraft. And you have your confidence in your rifle. Like, you zeroed it. You set it up the way you like it set up. Yeah. All that kind of shit. If you have somebody else's, you lose that, you know, shit, is this thing sighted in? Is it sighted in to me? I don't know. Right.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Is it like that with the planes?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Yeah, you know, I don't know what to think. It's just, what is that, 1969? What is that, 50? I'm 51. It's 73. So that's an extra four.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Interesting. Okay. All right. So you can get used to any of them relatively fast.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Yeah, like 56 years. Yeah. 56 years we have not gone back? That's just odd to me. That's really odd. But... Whatever, so you think we did? I think we did. All right, all right, all right. When do you think we'll be back? Are we going back? Well, yes. I mean, Elon wants to go to Mars.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
So you get through F-16 school. How's graduation?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I'm the same way. But I mean, there's got to be a ton of tradition. Right? There's got to be a ton of tradition in becoming an F-16 pilot or any type of fighter pilot. I mean, how do they pin your wings on?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
So you said what there's there's 12, was there, you said there was about 12 people in the original plus the foreigners, which we won't count, but, um, cause they don't, I mean, they don't, we're not training them how to fly F 16s.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
So how many Americans were there regular before you moved into the F-16 school? I think you said there was like 12? Yeah. So how many go to F-16 school? I think we have five. Five? Yeah.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
So it's regular pilot school, F-16, then you teach?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
So I guess what I'm getting at is what's, I mean, you kind of said, it sounded like graduation was kind of anticlimactic. So what's it like when you show up to your command after you graduate F-16 pilot school? So when you're in there with experienced fighter pilots.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Thank you.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Thank you.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
It seems like civilian space exploration is, like, really going it becoming a lot more advanced than nasa it's it's almost seems like it's it's well beyond what nasa can do am i am i off on that i mean isn't spacex going up to rescue the nasa guys that have been stuck in space for like eight months you're starting off with the tricky ones
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
scott poteet welcome to the show thanks for having me this is this is quite a quite an experience so thank you yeah you know we uh been looking forward to this we met at inauguration and um had a quick i don't know maybe 15 minute conversation there and I've always wanted to have an astronaut on the show. So yeah, thank you for coming.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
So anything significant operationally happened in Italy?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Is it a one-way partnership or is it a two-way? I mean, the government isn't great at sharing. I'm just, you know, is it really?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
because there is a washout right and it's very intense interesting yeah let's talk about when is the first time that you you flew a combat mission um
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Shit.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
You grew up in New Hampshire, earning a bachelor's in outdoor education from the University of New Hampshire before diving headfirst into the Air Force. You're a retired US Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with over 20 years of service where you logged more than 3,200 flight hours in aircraft like F-16s, A-4s, and T-38s.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
How did it feel for you, though? You described your wingman's approach and mess with the Sims, and then you just breezed right by your approach.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Yeah. When did that start to affect you? What did you start thinking about answering to God at the end?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
No.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
fighter pilot, ground guy, tank, whatever it is, the mission is to go and to kill people. And there's a selfishness in that. And I think a lot of people think they may have a failed career if they never get the opportunity to take somebody's life in combat. And that's how we think of it. We think of it as, I never got to kill somebody. But is this how we're trained? To think like that?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I think it is. It may be not how we're trained, but it's how the culture is, you know, because, and how fucked up is that? If you think about it, I never got the opportunity to fucking kill somebody. To employ an anger. Yeah. Whereas, you know, most normal people would say, you know, I never, I never had to do that. I never had to kill somebody.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
And so I think the culture makes you, it manifests that inside of you. But at the same time, when you're talking about meeting God or Jesus and answering to all those scenarios that you played out, You know what I mean? There's also, I mean, there is a selfishness, because I know what you're talking about. But it also comes down to, you know, I mean, you're a Christian.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
We're going to get into your experience later. But, you know, I think it all comes down to what's in your heart, right? You know, you think you're doing the right thing. Right. They think they're doing the right thing. Mm-hmm. They're just doing what they believe is right. And you're just doing what you believe is right. Right? Absolutely.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Yeah. No, I mean, it's... And they're thinking the same thing. Yeah. If they don't plant that bomb on the side of the road and kill Americans, then more of them are going to die. It's really kind of fascinating to think about. Yeah. Because everybody is legitimately just doing what they think is right.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Yeah. But when did that kind of stuff start entering your head? It was always there.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Well, I mean, on the other hand, You know, I mean, we're not talking about civilian casualties here. But then on the other hand, everybody's very aware of the consequences. Everybody involved, you know, is aware of what the ultimate consequence is. You are aware what happens if you go down. You talk, you know, orange jumpsuits, beheadings, burning you alive, whatever, torture.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
And they're just as aware of the consequences if they get compromised, that there's going to be a 500-pound bomb that lands on their vehicle. And so it's voluntary. Everybody on both sides is fully aware of what the consequences of engaging in war is. I guess that's why we sign up to serve. Yep. So, you know, I don't know.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I think a lot about it, but you know, the whole thing is, you know, Jesus knows what's in your heart. And I think that's all that matters.
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Why do we want to bring hundreds of passengers into space?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
How many missions did you fly, do you know?
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy, man. I haven't done one of these type of interviews in a little bit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
It's the war fighter mentality, man. It is the warrior mentality.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I mean, you get to experience, maybe not you get, you experience something that, I mean, there's just next to nobody that experiences that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Would I want them to go to war? If your kid wanted to be an F-16 pilot or whatever the equivalent is today, You call me old? You know.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
It's almost a legacy platform. Would you want them to have those experiences?
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Thank you Thank you. Thank you very much.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I'm just, I don't have anybody to talk to this stuff about that's been up there. So I think it's just a fascinating subject. I mean, we haven't found any water or anything on Mars, have we? Or frozen? We found frozen water or anything on Mars? I don't know. Yeah. I mean, it's just interesting. I mean, how would we sustain there with no... Nothing. We don't really know anything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I am a firm believer.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Yeah. See, I don't know, man. You know, we're talking, you know, back to the decision-making and all this, you know, killing people, combat. What's it going to be like when we meet him? Mm-hmm. You know, things like that. I mean, I just... One, if he was done with you, then I don't think he would have experienced that up there. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I think he's still working on everybody, no matter what you've done. And, uh, and it's those experiences that, that draw you to the light. And I, you know, I don't know. I think about this kind of stuff all the time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I think he's working on you all the way until the end. It's a tricky world. You know, I think there's only two influences on this world. There's fucking good and there is evil. And that's it. And it's kind of weird the way you just described the earth with the lightness and the darkness and continuously rotating. Because I just, I don't remember who I was talking to or how this even came up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
Over 400 of those hours were in combat supporting operations like Northern Watch, Southern Watch, Joint Guardian, Freedom's Sentinel, and Resolute Support. You commanded the 64th Aggressor Squadron, graduated from the Elite USAF Weapons School, basically the Air Force's version of Top Gun, and even flew as the No. 4 Demonstration Pilot with the Thunderbirds.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
But I described it as, I was talking to somebody about the end. kind of like revelations type stuff, like the end, because everybody's all, you know, is the sky falling? Are we in end times? I mean, a lot of people think we are, and everybody's looking for the signs. And the way I described it was, I think, I don't think anybody knows when the end is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I mean, even in the Bible, it says nobody knows. Jesus doesn't even know when the end is. And the way I kind of like think it's happening is if you look at like a marble, like a two-tone marble, you know, but maybe it's fluid in there. And the two colors are just constantly fighting each other for what takes over the marble. You know, I think that's very similar to good and evil.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
And there are times that it looks like evil is potentially taking up more surface area than good. And then, and then things start to change. And then you see, you know what I'm saying? And I think that's just constant. It's just a constant battle for, total control of the planet and what that looks like. And it's the two influences going to work against each other.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
And even like this conversation right now, you know, that we're having, it's going to, it's going to get people thinking and people that it's going to get people thinking that have never thought about that before. And the colors are going to start to change and more good is going to start to overcome more darkness.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
And, and the way you just described the planet with that, with the, with the light and the dark, I mean, that's kind of how I think of this all man. And. And it's just constantly evolving. It's always changing, just like that marble. Do you know what I mean? Absolutely. And he knows how tricky evil can be. I mean, we were both immersed in a culture where that became the normal. I...
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I got to kill somebody. I finally got the opportunity to kill somebody. Or I never got to kill anybody. You know, and that's... That's not fucking a good way to think. You know, but I mean, you get... You enter into... You enter into the military at a young age.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
You're with all your idols, the people that you want to be, the F-16 pilots, the lineage all the way back to World War I. And you want to live up to what those guys have done. And I joined the SEAL teams. And I want to live up to the Vietnam generation and the World War II guys. You know, like, it's just, it becomes you. It becomes you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
You immerse yourself into that culture, and then it seems good. It seems good. It's a fucking deception. It's a deception, whether you're doing it for the country or whatever. Yeah, we all did it for the country, right? Well, who says the country's good? Right. You know? And who says that country's bad? And, yeah, we can talk about 9-11 and all that kind of stuff. You know what I mean?
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
But, you know, what were we doing there for 20 years? Right. 20 fucking years? You know, and so... And so when I say he's still working on you, I mean, it's not over. You're either going to succumb to good or you're going to come to evil. And I think there's seasons of it. And when you start steering one way, the other way is trying to pull you back. And both of them. You know what I mean?
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
And they talk about deception and how... how Satan is the master of deception and he can, he can, and he uses, um, he uses temptation, you know, whether that's money or sex or living up to a culture, you know, and, and, and it may seem good, And maybe, you know, maybe it is. But it's, you know, we're just fucking humans, man. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I mean, they say everything's in God's hands, right? But it, I mean, I think, you know, we talk about free will, and I think that is really the only free will that we have. It's good and evil? It's good and evil. You can either choose to believe or choose not to believe. because everything else is so fucking contorted and twisted and deceptive. There's just so much deception out there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
And I think that you cannot, as hard as this sounds, I think you cannot succumb, you cannot sacrifice your values for temptation. Does that make sense? You should not, or you physically cannot. I think you should not because that is staying true to yourself, which is good. And, and temptation is everywhere. It's money, it's sex, that's culture. It's, it's all of that stuff. And, um,
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
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Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
And you just see people every day, you know, they sacrifice their values for temptation and they justify. If you catch yourself justifying, you know, why you did something or, do you know what I'm talking about? We've all done it, right? Absolutely. We've all done it. I did this to this person, probably wasn't that great of a, you know, wasn't a good thing to do, but...
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
now I'm stuck in the justification process like that. Well, I had to do that because this happened to me and that happened, they did this to me. And so this is how I justify it or, or, you know, somebody fucked you over or you fuck somebody over and it, and you have to, then, then you catch them justifying or justifying to yourself why, why you made the decisions that you made.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
And that alone in itself is that's succumbing to evil, evil.
Shawn Ryan Show
#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars
I think that we are more evil than we are good because it takes more effort to be good and not succumb to temptation than it does to be evil and succumb to all that shit because the reward doesn't come until the end to be good the reward to be evil which is is immediate you know it's an immediate reward
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
And nobody, there's a massive distrust in the healthcare system nowadays.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
And I don't even have a primary care anymore, which is probably horrible, but I go to them and I'm like, and then I go to somebody like you who reads all the lines of my blood work and tells me all the good things and the bad things and everything. And then I go to the doctor and he's like, oh, yep, everything looks good. See you in six months, you know? And so...
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
But people don't know where to look. You know, people don't know where to look for vaccines. Like, what do we do about vaccines? Do we vaccinate our kids? Do we not vaccinate our kids? Do we take the COVID shot? Do we not take the COVID shot? Are stem cells, is that healthy? Where can I go? Where is it reliable? And so there's like this mass confusion of... Who can we trust in health care now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
So for a stem cell, where do you find reliable? How do you know if they're reliable?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Dr. Gabrielle Lyons, welcome to the show.
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
It's tough. It is tough. Me and my wife are always looking around and poking around at different things. What do you think about... I wasn't even really expecting to go here. What do you think about these, what do they call, these more natural doctors? What do they call them? I can't remember.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
You know, me and my wife had a conversation about this because we were going to do it. I was, like, getting screened. Yes. And I was going to go with this foundation. I can't remember the name of it, but there's a foundation that does a bunch of military guys, and I was going to go with them. And then we were going to have Katie do it, too. And she was like...
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Are you talking about... Yeah, it's more like holistic medicine.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Functional medicine. Okay. What do you think? So, we've been looking for a functional medicine doctor. And... Because we're really concerned about the vaccines and stuff. And so... But a lot of these functional medicine doctors I've gone to, I leave and I'm like, this doesn't sound like a doctor. This sounds like a sales pitch on we don't do vaccines. And that shit weirds me out.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Because it's like, look, man, yeah, we're not really into the vaccine thing. We also want somebody that can do all the rest of the stuff that a fucking doctor should be able to do and treat our kid. And if my son breaks his arm, you better be able to fix it. Your sales pitch to me can't be, well, we don't do vaccines and tell me how fucked up they are. I get it, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Yeah, everybody's talking about this. But what else do you do other than just not give vaccines?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Wow. You got a lot going on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
We were both hesitant, but she had mentioned something, and she's like, okay, so what if one of us gets a diagnosis and it can't be treated? Then that changes our entire life right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Dude, we've been trying to get this thing done for, I think, has it been over a year now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
So what is your practice?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Do you, I mean, is it remote? Are you a primary care doc?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Whether it's... What's... Well, I did do a blood. Can they do a blood test? Yeah. So I did have a blood test. This is probably two years ago now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Wow. How'd you meet your husband? So your husband was a SEAL?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Absolutely.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Man, I don't know. I went to a longevity doctor. He told me how long I was going to live. It was like 76 or something. Is that real? No. Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
What were you doing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
You're a busy woman.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
How many different screenings are there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
90%? So I probably have a parasite.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
So what, I mean, let's say I have a parasite. Yeah. We're going to test it and we're going to treat it. What would I be feeling? What does it do to me?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Yeah, probably, well, I mean.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Well, if you don't breathe through your mouth, do you have to worry about sleep apnea?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Let's talk about nicotine real quick. Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Because I went to Tucker's event. Tucker, you know, he's coming out with his own nicotine pouch.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
He is. He's coming out with his own nicotine pouch. It's called Alp. And he had a party here. So I went.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Don't tell him. Don't tell him. It's not out yet. I already chewed them all. But... But no, I went to, anyways, I went to this event and I was like, all right, whatever. It's a nicotine party. I don't do any of this stuff. But I was like, all right, I'll have one. And then I was like, I kind of like this shit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
So then, because I was talking about it around my phone, now I'm getting all these fucking nicotine heads.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
But I saw somewhere, I can't even remember what it was, but apparently there's some benefits to nicotine.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Can the blood test test all of that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Yeah. But, well, I got a whole slew of stuff I want to chat with you about. And, you know, we just added another topic right before the camera started rolling. Cancer scares the hell out of me. It's like every day, every day I get a text from somebody else that knows somebody that died of cancer, that just got diagnosed with cancer. Yeah. It's like it's like my biggest fear.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I'm going to quit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I like it, but I'm going to quit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I mean, I just, like I said, I've only been doing it for a couple weeks, but I was like, it came in like a wave. I interviewed this, I interviewed somebody who's an investor in this new one called Sesh, too. And he brought a whole basket. It's highly addictive. And now the whole damn team's chewing nicotine.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
How many are there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Wow. Is it true it's hereditary?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Let's talk about some hormone stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
So it's no secret. I mean, team guys come out. It sounds like TBI and PTSD and a lot of these other things lower. It just lowers testosterone for whatever reason, right? And so you get all these guys coming out, and they have a T level of, what, 200, 300? For starters, before we go any further, what is a normal level?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
So is it the higher the T-level, the more free testosterone you have?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Are there cancer preventatives other than the screenings?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Like what?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
So is it true that just the population as a whole here in the U.S. has lower testosterone than our grandparents? Yes. Is that from the food? What is that from? It is from... Is it environmental?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I didn't know that. What about sugar?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
It's not?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Yeah, I've always heard that it can increase the speed that cancer grows in the body.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Another question. So with my primary care doc... Who I now will be.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
You know, it was always, well, it's good for your age. Well, my question to you is, if I felt my best at age, let's just say 25, and... My testosterone was way up here. Now I'm 42, and it's down here. Why wouldn't I want to bring that up to the level it was at age 25 throughout the duration of my existence? You would.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
So it should be at that level. Does that mean going back in time to – Before we had all these environmental issues and obesity and all the other shit that's contributing to low T. Would a human being maintain the same level of testosterone throughout the duration of their... I believe, yes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Do you think that because there's a lot of discussion on all of these, it seems like healthcare is just being revolutionized right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
So are our children going to deal with the same issues, do you think? People are eating cleaner. People are not. They're not.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Well, I mean, okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
People are getting away. Maybe not everybody, but there's a lot of discussion. I mean, RFK is coming in. Yep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
So as people start moving away from plastics and people start eating cleaner and people start doing farm-to-table type food and going to local farmers versus getting chicken and beef there rather than— Chick-fil-A?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Chick-fil-A rather than the stuff that was raised in a pump full of hormones.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Let's do it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
So what if you quit smoking or you quit vaping? Does that in you, I mean... You can reduce your risk for sure. Reduce your risk back to the normal level as if you have never done it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Let's talk about HGH since we're on hormones. What are your thoughts about that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I didn't say no good doctor. Just, is it common? They would need you to take this. They would need you to take that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I know I've made a lot of them. But, yeah. What about, well, let me give you an introduction first before we get too far in the weeds. Okay. Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, today we have got an incredible guest who's going to shake up everything you thought you knew about health and wellness. Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, you are not the average physician. You're a game changer in the medical field.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
What percentage of your, I mean, you deal with a lot of team guys.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Do you see a lot of commonalities with team guys?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
What are some of the most common? What are some of the commonalities?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
is but there's a we have a huge variety audience obviously okay but um i would say my audience is comprised of just a lot of people that are looking for They just want to know the truth about things. You know, I'm a very curious person. That's why I think this is going to be a great interview. And I'm always digging for the truth.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
And I think that my audience is also very... It's a very curious audience. They want to know about things like what we're talking about right now. They want to know, you know, how to find... Because it's...
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
It's really – it's tough for people like me who don't have – I don't have knowledge in medicine, you know, other than what – other than basic trauma care that, you know, that I was taught in the teams. But, you know, and it's – there's some good fucking salesmen out there, you know, and so – I want to be able to sniff through the bullshit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
And I know my audience wants to be able to sniff through the bullshit too. And so that's why I'm asking these questions.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
We are. But it's tricky. I mean, somebody can sound like they know exactly what they're talking about, especially in the medical field, because there's a lot of knowledge there. There's a lot of terminology that people aren't familiar with. And so people... With everything that happened in COVID, it created a lot of distrust in healthcare. And it caused people to go down rabbit holes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
And now we see, you know, the stuff with seed oils. We see the stuff with what's in our food. How was it raised? One farm to table. The vaccination thing. There's, you know, huge controversy there. Yes. And so I think everybody just wants to know, who do we trust?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
You're a board certified family physician who's also fellowship trained at Washington University in nutritional science and geriatrics. You founded the Institute of Muscle-Centric Medicine and made it your life's mission to keep people not just living longer but living stronger.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
You educate people about how skeletal muscle is the largest organ in the body, the key to longevity, and the secret weapon against diseases like obesity, heart disease, and diabetes. You've worked with some... Of the toughest people out there, including special operations military personnel, Olympic athletes, helping them to optimize their performance when it counts.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
You don't eat pizza.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
What?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
We're going to have to change the dinner reservation.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
You tackle big questions, offering framework for navigating the health space that are grounded in both science and practicality in your podcast, The Dr. Gabrielle Lyon Show. Your latest book, Forever Strong, a new science-based strategy for aging well, became a New York Times bestseller. in Wall Street Journal and USA Today, bestseller. Congratulations on that. Thank you, sir.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
And we're going to dive deep into how we can all take charge of our own health, the impact of our dietary choices, and why muscle health might be the first place we look in our wellness journey. And then I have a whole bunch of subcategories, too, that I came up with right before he showed up that crossed my mind. Like...
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I mean, they took PE out of classrooms, right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Out of school. So let's talk, you know, you're big on longevity. I watched, there was a docuseries I saw, I think it was How to Live to 100, and this guy went around. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Interesting.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Less than one hour.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
nicotine but we'll get into that in a minute so one thing i do have is a subscription account it's on patreon and uh many of these people have been with us since the beginning they're the ones that kept the lights on in the beginning and uh and still do today because of them i wouldn't be here and and neither would you so one of the things i do is i offer them a
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Interesting. So to live to 100, it's just exercise. Body composition.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Well, I mean, I know what you're saying works because I have a good friend, also my attorney. I don't want to say his name because I don't want to, you know. But he took you on, or you took him on as a client, and I just saw him a couple weeks ago. He looks amazing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
He told me he was starting with you. I think when we scheduled the podcast and I saw him, I was like, holy shit, man, you look fucking amazing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
and uh and he said yeah I feel great now my wife's I I don't know if she's seeing you yet or not but uh if she's not uh she probably will be soon because he told me that that was gonna happen but I've seen I've seen I've seen your work and uh in person and and it looks amazing so So let's keep going. How do we live to 100? I mean, what about supplements?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
So, I mean, a lot of people are saying that, you know, fruit, vegetables, we already kind of touched on the meat, but the pesticides and they don't have near the nutrients that they used to have 50 plus years ago or 20 plus years ago. It seems like it just keeps diminishing more and more. And so a lot of people are turning to supplements, you know, greens.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
different multivitamins, whatever, fill in the blank. From what I've heard about you, it sounds like you don't think that replacing food with supplements is necessarily the best idea.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I tell them who the guest is and offer them the opportunity to ask each guest a question. So since we're talking about longevity, this is a good one. This is from John Hoppen. Being 65 now and physically very active my whole life, back issues are plaguing me and most of my friends. There are seemingly tons of fixes, et cetera, out there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I just I Never want to get that fucking diagnosis.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I have. I mean, I go, I shouldn't say no. I go, here's the thing. I'm just going to be 100% honest. I saw fucking gummy bears.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I felt bad. Do you want some? No.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
No, they're just gummy bears.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Dude, I was embarrassed to give you some.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
The doctors don't get the gummy bears.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Doctors don't get gummy bears. I'm embarrassed. We'll take a break. When we come back, I'm going to give you some gummy bears. Where's my present? You can put them up there as a gift. But, man, now I just lost my train of thought.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Now I feel bad.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
We were talking about... We were talking about... No, we were talking about supplements. Supplements. This is important. And so my thing is I'm coming out with a supplement too.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
It's going to be 2,000 milligrams of cordyceps, 2,000 milligrams of lion's mane mushroom extract. I love mushrooms. And... It's a nootropic. Yep. We're still perfecting it, but...
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
it was a huge uh discussion with my business partner he wanted another thing to mix we're gonna do the mix but i was like look man i have to do something that's easy because just i mean you're running three businesses you understand being busy I'm already overwhelmed as it is. I can't even believe I'm saying it. I have a billbox that has all my stuff in there, my fish oil, my multivitamin, my K3.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
What do you feel is the best approach to outright repair or a routine anyway to lessen effects to be able to maintain at least close to a normal physicality, active, healthy existence?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
It's got a bunch of stuff in it. But I just don't have time to... It has to be easy. And I don't... All right, let's do the red powder. All right, let's do the green powder. Mix it up. Let's do the mushroom supplement. Mix it up. That's like 30 minutes of just mixing all these damn supplements and putting them in.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
So this, what we did was I was like, it has to be something easy, whether it's a shot or I don't know. So it's an eyedropper thing. It's, you know, the dropper thing. You just do two of them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
But that's my, that's, and then there's the protein powder. And then there's the, you know, so what I'm saying.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Well, so you see what I'm saying, though? Like, it's become, it's just not the most convenient thing. And I'm always looking for convenience. And then that creates 50 dishes that you have to clean and wash and run through the dishwasher. And I'm like, man, like, I just... I don't want to do all that stuff. I just want, can we just do one thing here that's just bam, done? Do it on the fly?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
And it doesn't take any time. And so that's why we came out the, we're coming out with the eyedropper supplement because it's so convenient.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
But yeah, if I had one, I'd give one to you right now. I'll send you some when we get them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
And gummy bears. But that's the thing with the supplements. And so is that what you do? Do you mix the reds and then you mix the greens and then you mix the protein?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Yes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Yeah. Let's hear it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Oh, yeah. I love Bubz. I take Bubz.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Let's go back to Arma, the colostrum stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I just interviewed Brecca, and he wants me to take that. He did the whole gene test thing on me. He threw it on the show. What's the deal with colostrum?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Man, I can't remember all of them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Interesting. Interesting.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
For the brain? I've not heard this before. Yeah. 10 to 12.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Interesting. Let's take a quick break. When we come back, I want to talk about gummy bears. And we'll give you some gummy bears. It's seeming more and more like we're about to hit an inflation cycle like we saw in the 70s. President Reagan once said that inflation is as violent as a mugger, as frightening as an armed robber, and as deadly as a hitman. And I couldn't agree more.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
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Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
And you had mentioned that you were interviewing people that nobody had ever heard of. And for whatever it's worth, that's what I do, is I find people that nobody's ever heard of, and I bring their story or what they're saying to light. And I think that's really what sets it apart. And I don't know.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I think if you continue down that road and just stick with what you're interested in, they don't have to have the big name behind them. I think you're going to see a lot of success. I know you're already having a lot of success. I mean, what did you say? You're number three in health?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
In medicine? That's amazing. So congratulations on that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
And... And... We're going to live to 100. Everybody gets a present on the show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I was the only doctor, I believe, that I'm giving gummy bears to.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Dude, I'm embarrassed to give them to the doctor. It's just junk food.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Well, there's no collagen protein or ARMA or anything like that. And they're basically just a sugar pill. Okay. Or what we call them, you know, in the teams, fat pills.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Now I feel bad. I feel bad now. But that's all it is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I'm still conscious about giving sugar to doctors. So, but there you go. Thank you. Now you got the gummy bears. I'm so excited. They're sold out online right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Where are you going to auction them?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Nice, nice.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I'll bet they do, too. Supplements. Supplements. Supplements. Well, hold on. The road to 100. Yeah. And so where we left off, I wanted to talk to you about, we talked about supplements, we talked about hormones, we talked about a whole bunch of stuff. Let's talk about sleep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
You? Me? I'm horrible at sleep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I don't want to hear that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
You know, my great-grandma lived to 102 years old, and she was sharp as a tack until the last week and a half. And we all thought she was going crazy. Not really crazy, but I mean, she's 102 and she's dying. And she started seeing angels and people that she knew, and she was talking to things that none of us could see.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
And now, after we kind of talked a little bit about that subject before we interviewed here, but now I think... We're the dumbasses that didn't know what was going on. I think maybe she wasn't crazy and all of those entities and spirits or angels or whatever they were, relatives of hers, they probably were there welcoming. It was a welcoming party into the next cycle of life.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I get that. I have more of a fear of leaving my kids behind in this atrocious of a world than I do of dying. But what I do worry about with dying is I want to be able to go out like my great-grandma or like, you know, we were talking about some of the stuff that's in the studio here, like that sword, Don Graves, 99 years old. He was 98 when I interviewed him. Guy was like,
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Just like we're talking right now. Totally with it, remembers every little detail. I mean, super sharp human being. Still that way. I still talk to him every once in a while. But that's how I want to go, whether that's at whatever age. But anyways, let's move to sleep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
How much sleep do we need?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
No, I didn't. How do they do that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
You're probably one of those people. Well, that makes me happy to hear, you know, because I can't sleep. And it's getting better. I started these peptide things with our mutual friend, Conover.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Don't know. But it's a peptide.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Well, I mean, so for somebody like me, you say, like, you've got to get screened. Like, who do I look for?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Yeah, but I still wake up, though. I wake up at like 2 a.m., damn near on the dot, every night. And, you know... I've always had this and I trained my mind to think, actually, Sean, this is a blessing that you're not sleeping because you can get that much more work done and you just don't need sleep like everybody else. But then I see these damn things on social media.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I saw one the other day that showed this person that looked horrible. horrible health, and it was like, this is what six hours of sleep will do for you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Are you one of them?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
No.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
We moved them out in eight weeks. My wife was adamant about that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Oh, my God.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Doesn't that destroy your sex life?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Okay. All right.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
All right.
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Right here?
Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
How about sex? What about that on the road to 100?
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Interesting.
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There we go.
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How much sex should we be having?
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Sounds good to me.
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Interesting.
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I think I'd rather just have sex than the nasal thing. Yeah, probably.
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I got another question. Kind of uncomfortable, but whatever, I'm going to ask that. What about, is there a difference between masturbation and sex when it comes to longevity?
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What kind of studies? How long have you been tracking that?
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
There's got to be something to it, though, right? If there's zones, it's not just, it doesn't sound like it's just sporadic that all these people are living to 100 and all these different, it seems to be concentrated in these zones, correct?
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Well, isn't like Okinawa, Japan one of them?
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Okay. Okay. That makes sense. You know, I wanted to ask you, this is totally a side rabbit hole here, but psychedelics. We brought up dementia, Alzheimer's a couple different times. That's a fear of mine as well. I think a lot of people worry about that.
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I've heard, read, I don't remember where I saw it, but it's popped up several different times, is psychedelics, does that help with Alzheimer's dementia?
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Have you done them?
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Did you get any benefits from it?
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
I mean, your husband's a team guy.
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Not interested at all?
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
What do you think he's afraid of?
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Okay, so they're actually screening exercises.
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Interesting.
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
What are some other attributes of successful people?
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
What does stem cell treatment do?
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Really? So you can get it here in the U.S.? You can. You can make that recommendation on where to go?
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
How's your son? My son is good. Good deal. Yeah, you know, it can be tough to keep the distractions away. You know, we were kind of chatting about that too before the interview about my road to podcasting and... All the distractions, and it wasn't until I really zeroed in and I was like, look, we do one thing here and we do it really good.
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
That's when we really, really saw the curve start steepening. And so all of that makes a lot of sense.
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
That's a damn good point. Mm-mm. Well, doctor, I think that's a good place to end it. But I just want to say thank you. Thank you for making the trip here to Franklin. And I'm just so thankful we met. And wish you the best of luck with your, you got more books coming out?
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Well, I wish you the best of luck with your books, your practice, your podcast, and whatever else you can, being a mother. Thank you again.
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#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Man, I've thought about that, the stem cell stuff for my back, but I haven't done it because I didn't charge it.
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The father of three sons and, most importantly, a Christian. So I'm just going to—50 years. I mean, that's amazing. And so, you know, kind of to start it off, I just— What would you say the secret to a successful marriage is?
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You figured it out at 10 or 11 years old? Yep.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
physical attraction or something of that nature and that wanes with time and all of a sudden you don't have anything in common and uh that's a problem interesting i've literally just talked about that uh as well just a few days ago so it's uh great to have your affirmation on that and uh i 100 agree with that um So before we get too in the weeds, I want to do a full life story on you.
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Let's rewind a little bit more. Something happened at age 14. You weren't just a bookworm.
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watching and following what you're doing for a long time and and um i just i love everything you've got going on and everything you've done and and i think everything you stand for so well we love we love what you do and the in-depth shows that you do and your service to the country as a navy cell well thank you thank you everybody starts with that introduction and uh so here we go
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And so we've built quite the community over there. And one of the things that I offer them is they get to ask each and every guest a question. And so this is from Roy G. It's a good question. Dr. Carson, what actionable steps can be taken to address the hospital insurance and pharmaceutical system that has made healthcare costs outrageously expensive?
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I wanted to kind of dig in a little bit about what was it like preparing for the surgery with the twins? It was a 22-hour operation.
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Back to the twins, that was a 22-hour operation? It was. Were you operating for 22 hours straight?
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Downstairs, I was having a conversation with your wife, and she had brought up the fact that you had, how did she word it? Basically, she was saying that you were operating outside of the law.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
outside of what outside of the law outside of the law maybe maybe in a specific case maybe maybe outside of tradition maybe outside of tradition yeah never never never outside of the law outside of legal scope baby i don't i don't know though i don't think you know what she's talking about i don't know what she's talking about
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We skipped ahead a couple of years, so I want to rewind. Where did you first meet your wife, Candy?
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Your wife was at Yale as well.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
When did you decide to get married?
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Did Candy grow up in poverty as well?
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Have you ever tried to find your father since eight years old?
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What was the typical interaction like between you and him?
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
There's a lot of kids growing up in poverty and a lot of people stuck in poverty today. I think a lot of them don't see a way out or maybe they're never even exposed to what what else is out there, what it could be. I didn't grow up in poverty, but I have spent a lot of time in the military and contracting for the agency that took me to some of the poorest places in the world.
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And, you know, when... I've always been very fascinated with, with how people live and, uh, in extreme situations like that are extreme to me. And so, you know, being in Yemen or Afghanistan and seeing, seeing people that live like it's almost like biblical times or, you know, haven't really evolved much for thousands of years, still living in mud huts, burning trash to keep warm.
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I mean, they don't really get the snapshot of what, you know, a typical... what Western life is like. But some of them still make it out. And I think, I mean, I don't know, but I think it may be the same in... And poverty in the U.S., maybe they don't get the snapshot of what, they just think this is it, this is how it is, this is what it's like everywhere.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
And is that, I mean, is that kind of what it's like?
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
Where did you live overseas?
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What were you doing there?
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68 other countries.
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Mostly vacation, professional life?
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Where's your favorite place?
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Second to that.
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What brought you to South Africa?
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Wow. You know, being a neurosurgeon, what are your thoughts on Neuralink?
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Dr. Ben Carson, welcome to the show.
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Dr. Ben Carson, you were raised in poverty in a single-parent home in Detroit, Michigan. You earned a medical degree from the University of Michigan Medical School, specializing in neurosurgery. At age 33, you became the youngest major division director in Johns Hopkins Hospital's history. is the head of pediatric neurosurgery.
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Have you looked into some of the stuff that's going on with psychedelic therapy?
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
As far as treating traumatic brain injuries and addictions and... You haven't looked into that?
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Why do you think... Why are those hidden capacities coming out when people are undergoing a psychedelic experience?
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Do you have any thoughts on should we move forward with researching that or legalizing?
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Where does consciousness live?
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That sounds...
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What do you find most fascinating about the human mind?
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
Let's move into politics. So what, what was it? I mean, you obviously had a extremely successful career in the medical field. And so what, what was it that, why did you feel called to leave that and to get into politics?
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How did you figure that out? How did you figure out that the majority of people don't have courage?
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What happens if we continue down the trajectory of a 1.6 birth rate per family? What is the math on that?
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How fast?
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Yeah, but that would be... One hell of a fight.
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What about raising your kids?
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I mean, I don't know. I think that one of the ways that... I think it's going to be a long turnaround, you know, if we turn it around. It seems like we're doing, you know, making leaps and bounds right now, but we've seen that pendulum swing really far right and really far left. It doesn't seem to see much balance. And so it's, I guess what I'm saying is I believe it's a generational fight.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
and just you have three sons how old are your sons uh 41 39 and 37. do they have kids they all have children yeah and i feel like that uh a lot of parents have abandoned their parental responsibilities for social media
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They give their kids the phone. The phone raises the kid, keeps them occupied so that the parent can be on the phone. And to me, it seems we need to get back to Raising your kids, pouring into them, giving them everything you have, teaching them the values, not handing them the phone.
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Curious to know, what is your best piece of advice on just being a good father?
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
Well, I can't think of a better response for that question. That just blew me away. I can't wait to get this out already. So everybody on the show gets a gift. I'm always, like, really hesitant to give this out to doctors.
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And so how do they build that relationship with God? I mean, I just figured it out about a year and a half ago, and it's totally changed my life.
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But I think for people that, I think for people that are new to it, they need a little bit more than strength in the relationship. How do they communicate with God? How do they build a relationship with God?
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And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind blowing. And so I've asked her if she would contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
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We're talking about how to find God, where to look, stuff like that. Let's get back into some politics stuff. So when you decided to run for president, we'd already kind of established earlier that criticism doesn't bother you. You'd paid no attention to it. Did you have any fear of the smear campaigns or anything like that for your family's sake? Was that a big decision for you?
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Yeah, you better get them while you can. Yeah. Who knows, they might come raid your house to confiscate them. Let's dig into your life story starting right at the very beginning. Where did you grow up?
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How long did it take for her to, well, get on board with you?
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I remember it was the presidential debate in 2016 when the announcer skipped over your name and Donald Trump waited and walked out with you. It looked like you guys were having some type of a conversation. Yeah.
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Why weren't they asking you questions?
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What is it about you you think that they did not want you in there?
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Probably really onto something there. What, you know, there's more, it seems like, I hope so, but Seems like more and more good people are starting to get into politics. Not saying a lot, but a lot of my veteran friends are starting to get involved. I've thought about getting involved. I think I have a bigger impact doing what I'm doing now than I ever would running for office.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
But I see them doing it. My good friend Eli Crane, he's in there. I mean, there's a lot of veterans, you know, getting involved. And so I'm curious, what advice do you have for anybody who wants to get involved and wants to run? I mean, because it is also, I mean, it's a daunting task. I mean, it seems like you're going up against the impossible.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
With no government experience, can you tell us a little bit about what that was like? How long did it take you to get settled?
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
He gained international recognition for your groundbreaking surgical innovations, notably for leading the first successful separation of conjoined conjoined twins. You are the author of numerous scientific articles and books, including Gifted Hands, The Ben Carson Story, which was later turned into a television movie.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
You said poverty is a state of mind and that ruffled a lot of feathers. How did you, I mean, I guess maybe it didn't bother you because you don't respond to criticism.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
So let's talk about what you're doing now. We started talking about some of the stuff, but tell me about the American cornerstone.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
Does California have the highest homeless population, the largest homeless population? And the majority of them are mentally ill?
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
Why do you think there's such a high concentration of mentally ill in that state?
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
How are you getting the message out about American Cornerstone?
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
Do you talk about this in impoverished neighborhoods at all? In what? In lower-income neighborhoods.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
What's the response been?
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
Well, Dr. Carson, it's been... An honor to talk to you here. And so I kind of want to close this out, but in closing, what would you like to see the majority of Americans do? What's the one thing?
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
Why aren't you going to be in President Trump's cabinet this time around?
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
I mean, I would agree with that, but on the same token, you've got a lot of wisdom that younger people don't have yet. And that's extremely important.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
How do you think the first couple months of the new administration's going?
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
I think so, too. Very hopeful. Well, Dr. Carson, thank you so much.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
My pleasure. So, best of luck to you.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
Thank you.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
Where did you live in the interim?
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
Was your brother, is your brother older or younger than you?
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
So single mom, a 10 year old and an eight year old, just bouncing around Detroit, trying to figure out, trying to find shelter.
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
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#183 Dr. Ben Carson - Neuralink, God’s Hand in Neuroscience and Human Consciousness
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
But, you know, it's interesting that you say that about psychedelic therapy because that is... And look, I'm a huge... Anybody that listens to this knows I'm a huge proponent to psychedelic therapy. It changed my... It changed so many aspects of my life in a positive way. But... I'm like you, I don't. A little bit different of a philosophy, but I don't abuse it.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
I don't know if ritualistic is the correct word for that, but I take it very seriously. Sometimes I think I maybe take it too seriously. What do you mean by that? Well, because... Man, this is... I'm actually going to start to contradict myself here. But... Because where I was going is it... Parts of this reminded me of kind of the beginning of the opiate crisis within the veteran community.
Shawn Ryan Show
#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
Veteran community, guys got a little bit of relief from pain, you know, from this stuff. And then we realized, oh shit, it numbs our mind. My mind's not racing anymore. I'm in. You know, and I started to see this within psychedelics too, where people want to live in that realm and not... Take what you need out of that realm and then go live your fucking life here in reality.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
And that realm becomes like some type of escape. What I was going to say when I said maybe I take it a little too seriously and it gets in the way is more and more of these studies are coming out. about microdosing and maybe having a low dose psilocybin tea in the morning. I don't do that because I have to set my space up the way I need it to be. I have to do all of the things.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
The ritual aspect, yeah. Because I think that it is, in my opinion, it's a medicine that demands a tremendous amount of respect. And I live by a code that does that. Sometimes I think that code... It gets in the way a little bit because I need days off in the ascent. I need days off in the beginning. I like to prepare myself, and part of me thinks, hey, just do it. Just get the benefit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
Travis Haley, welcome to the show, man.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
But then I do see people abusing it.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
In 2011, you established Haley Strategic Partners, which focuses on designing cutting edge tactical equipment and offering science-based training programs. You also serve as a mind architecture and self-improvement coach, helping others find post-traumatic growth and shares not just how to be a survivor to life, but a beneficiary to it. You're a husband to a superwoman, a father of seven children,
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
Damn, that's interesting. I've not heard that, the feminine and masculine. We're... Where did you hear that from?
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
the founder of seven successful companies and an adventurous and extreme athlete. As I mentioned before, you are a very... You're just a phenomenal businessman and started several companies, CEOed several companies. And I remember watching... Magpul training videos, hours and hours on end. When I was overseas, we would just loop it.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
It is an honor to have you here. And I've been trying to make this happen for a long time, and I've been really looking forward to this. And seriously, it's an honor to have you sitting here. So thank you for making the trip. Thank you. You know, I left contracting for the agency in 2015 and started a training company. It didn't last very long, but you and then another guy, Dom Razo, were...
Shawn Ryan Show
#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
When you say a past life, are you saying a past life or like my previous career is a force reconnaissance Marine? So both.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
And you're a pro snowboarder, base jumper, windsuit pilot, rock climber, and the list just goes on. But like I said, honor to have you here. And something that I wanted to just cover at the very beginning is... You know, when we were downstairs, we had a discussion about veteran suicide and you had just lost your 36th close friend, not just acquaintance, close friend.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
I'm curious how, if you love talking about these, going down these rabbit holes, but if you're a Christian, then how do you, what I'm curious about is how do you tie in multiple lives in different time periods.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
And I've lost, I quit counting. I don't want to know the number, but I just wanted to open the floor for you on that because it sounds like it's pretty fresh.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
Where did you come to, I guess maybe conclusion isn't the right word because we're still looking into it. When did you come into this thought process? How did this happen? I think it's been in about the last five or six years of my life. Did it come in with plant medicine?
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
You're a deep thinker.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
You know, you mentioned something about, I don't know, maybe 10 minutes ago, and you had said we were talking about, you know, kind of setting the stage for psychedelic therapy and how serious we both take it. And, you know, I'm curious. You had mentioned something about when things start getting stirred up, you go do it. I think you told me you're running eight companies. Obviously very busy.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
Father to seven kids. A wife. You got a lot of shit going on. So what I want to ask is, you know, when you feel that stuff stirring up, and you're not just going to a clinic, you're embedding with some type of a tribe. Yeah. And you're the only one. So how long does it take you to set aside the time to work on yourself with that?
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
Interesting. I'm definitely going to look into that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
Well, Travis, so I want to get into your life story. So we'll go childhood, military career, transition out, contracting, what you're doing now, and then who knows what we'll get into, what rabbit holes in the middle of all that. But I got you something. It's probably the only reason you're here, actually.
Shawn Ryan Show
#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
Vigilance lead gummy bears made right here in the USA. And I got you something else. So your EDC was awesome, by the way.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
But have you heard of the UpPhone?
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
yeah so there's a whole slew of features on that phone uh eric prince um yeah developed it he got a guy that helped develop pegasus are you familiar with pegasus yeah a little bit the computer virus yeah um one of the guys on the dev team uh of pegasus helped develop that phone so there's just you know everybody's worried about big tech and
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
people spying on you and big tech following you and tracking everything you do. And so that is the best answer that I've found thus far. And we have a lot of heavy conversations around here that
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
don't want anybody listening in on and we usually throw our phones in a faraday box or something but with that it's got a kill switch it throws up a piece of plastic in between the battery and the in the phone so they can't they cannot listen wow uh and then you can even download your social media apps on there and there's a feature that um that enables it it enables
Shawn Ryan Show
#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
the social media companies to not track everything that you're doing on your phone. It's got an integrated VPN. It's got an integrated version of Signal on that phone. Wow. It's, yeah, a lot of cool features.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
Yeah.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
You can still use it for your lifestyle. And it works with... It works with a bunch of different network providers. I don't know exactly which. Mine's with T-Mobile. But they're going to eventually work with all of them. But if you go to the website, it'll tell you which ones you can use. So it's not its own service. It's a device. I thought you might like that. Absolutely. And perfect.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
Right on. Thank you, man. Well, Travis, let's start getting into your life story. Where'd you grow up?
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
What town?
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
What kid doesn't love fire?
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
How old were you?
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
They found out that you shot her over a year later?
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
It was 100% your decision?
Shawn Ryan Show
#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
You know, I'm curious. Do you think your dad and your grandfather wanted you to join the Marine Corps? Having both have been to war?
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
yeah yeah you know reason i'm asking is we we we had a conversation downstairs about your son and uh you know i ask uh i ask a lot of gents that come through here if they that have been to war you know in our time frame if they want their kids to go to war i think about it all the time you know about my son and he's only three but um and i think about
Shawn Ryan Show
#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
how I'm going to project my past to him and all that kind of stuff. And so, do you want your son to serve? Did you want your son to serve?
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
I'm curious, did you struggle with, we're not gonna get into this full blown now, we'll wait. till the appropriate time, but I am curious, did you struggle with drugs or alcohol or both?
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
No?
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
You know, I think that, you know, with the veteran suicide stuff, I think of a lot of that, I don't think, I know a lot of that is coming from shitty decision-making, under the influence of drugs and alcohol.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
I think. Have you thought about how you would handle it as a father if he doesn't make it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
I looked at everybody that was doing this stuff and the level of professionalism that you have and the attention to detail that you put in all of your content, your marketing, your advertising, your products is just second to no one. It really, really stands out, at least it did for me.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
You know, I think about this all the time and, you know, I really hope my kid doesn't want to join the military. I'd rather him go another path. But I think about it all the time. And as a dad, and he's three, but he's starting to get into, he's starting to show a lot more interest in dad. Took him fishing for the first time not long ago. Took him camping for the first time not long ago.
Shawn Ryan Show
#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
And, I mean, you know how long it takes to pull a trigger? A fraction of a second. And you can have that thought, you know, with not a clear mind, and all it takes is a fraction of a second to pull that trigger or swallow those pills or drive off the road or jump off a building. And I think that is...
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
Do a lot of family hikes, ATV rides, shit like that. And, you know, one of the things that I just always think about is, is what if he does try to walk in my footsteps, especially, you know, the career. It sounds weird, but because I'm talking about my own career, but I could see how a kid would be impressed with the military career that I've experienced.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
I know that's what's getting a lot of guys is not having a clear mind under the influence of drugs and alcohol. Not that that cures everything, you know what I mean? I don't think coming off of it is gonna cure depression and all these other things, but I think that
Shawn Ryan Show
#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
think the majority of these seem to happen uh when somebody's under the influence and they're not in the right state of mind and um maybe that's one of the things that we need to be spending a little bit more time on to get to the real root of the problem you know which is which is the suicide is what we're trying to to clean up, to stop.
Shawn Ryan Show
#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
But I don't think that's going to stop until the drugs and the alcohol stop. You had brought up another statistic this morning, Travis, that you had said, you have the numbers, I don't, but you had mentioned, and I knew this, How many people died in OIF and OEF?
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
You know, I just want to rephrase. I think it is drugs and alcohol. I don't think that is the only problem. I think when you, all of this, you know, operator syndrome, PTSD, traumatic brain injury, CTE, and it all gets compiled together and you add drugs and alcohol on top of it, which is obviously a...
Shawn Ryan Show
#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
people think it's a coping mechanism uh i think that's what i was alluding to is is it it i think that's the the icing on the cake that that unfortunately is is like the last straw you know i think there's another issue starting to happen too um so i've never had a drug or alcohol problem i don't have an addictive personality it's weird i've
Shawn Ryan Show
#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
It's pretty surreal to be sitting here with you right now because I studied all of the stuff that you were doing very early on when I was in that game, and it's really cool, man. You've built an empire, and it's very inspiring for me and a lot of other people. So... Very cool. Thank you. I acknowledge that.
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
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#172 Travis Haley - Blackwater Sniper's Controversial Moments in Deadly War Zones
It did. It did. But everybody starts off with a introduction here. Travis Haley, you're a prominent figure in the defense and firearms industry, known for your extensive military service and contributions to the tactical training and product development. You're a force reconnaissance marine combat entrepreneur and an eighth generation gunfighter.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
You know, it seems like the commonality behind a lot of these is manipulating Christianity.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Are there any cults that you, any newer ones that you have your eye on right now?
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Well, I'm sure this show will help out with that.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Well, Rick, we're wrapping up here, and I just want to say thank you for coming on. That was a fascinating conversation. And I got to be honest, I totally wasn't expecting you to know about the yellow deli. I cannot wait to get home and tell my wife about that. What was it, the 12? 12 tribes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
She's going to be... We've been talking about this for seven years. And to just have you just go, the yellow deli, I was... Wow. Just goes to show you, these places, I mean, Pulaski, Tennessee is a, you and me are probably the only ones that have ever heard of it that are watching this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
Very interesting. What I was getting at is Pulaski is a very, very small town. And so it's, you know, there's... I guess they just pop up anywhere.
Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
It's not far from here. It's only about 45 minutes south of here. So if you want to go grab a bite. No thanks. I'm just kidding. But Rick, it was a pleasure interviewing you. I really appreciate it.
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults
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He has a son, and you're describing this perfectly. It's almost like It's almost like there's a textbook out there or something on how to do it. They've lied to the kid. They've turned him completely against him. His family has disowned him. It's really sad to see it happen.
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Since 1982, you've been studying, researching, and responding to problems often posed by controversial authoritarian groups and movements. You've intervened in more than 500 deprogramming cases in various countries. You were the only deprogrammer to work with members of the Branch Davidsons prior to the Waco siege.
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That seems to be a commonality in a lot of these cultish and cult-type organizations. What is the, why do they, I mean, when they recruit somebody into a cult, I don't know the percentage, but it has to be like 99% of people realize that molesting children is pure evil. So when you get a cult, like, Jehovah's Witness or an authoritarian organization? A destructive authoritarian organization.
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How do they manipulate somebody off the street who knows sexual abuse and exploitation of children is wrong? How do they get them to look the other way?
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You've been called upon as an expert, resourced by law enforcement, including the BATF, FBI, and United States Justice Department. You also have been a guest lecturer at many universities, including Penn, Carnegie Mellon, and the University of Chicago. You are the executive director of the Colt Education Institute, author of the book, Colt's Inside Out, How People Get In and Can Get Out.
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I mean, what is... So how do they... We're going to get into this a lot more, but just for a frame of reference, I mean, how, what is the, do they have an explanation on why they need to molest and exploit kids sexually inside that cult?
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Your reputation has led you to becoming a paid consultant for CBS, CBC, and Nippon of Japan Television Networks, as well as retained a technical consultant for both Miramax and Disney Film Studios. GQ Magazine identified you as America's leading cult expert, and Britain's FHM Magazine named you America's number one cult buster. You previously worked as an expert consultant
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Man. What are some of the most prevalent cults today?
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for Ubisoft in the creation of the very popular video game Far Cry 5. Quite the intro. Thank you. Very interesting career. I am curious, what got you so interested in cults?
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You know, when you say, I want to explore Scientology for a little bit, but when the leader of a cult says, when the torch gets passed, how do they, how's that person selected?
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So what is the basis of Scientology?
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I've heard a lot of rumors about people that have tried to escape this, that have been blocked away, kind of kidnapped. What do you make of this? Is that true?
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How long could somebody be locked down?
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What's it like for you as a deprogrammer when you see the epiphany happen?
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Back to the Scientology stuff. You had mentioned that the reeducation process can be extremely harsh. What kind of stuff are they doing?
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That's, I mean, is there... Is there any proof of this? Or is it all kind of, because you keep seeing words like allegedly and reports of and stuff like that. Has there ever been a wellness check by police or a federal law enforcement agency on this?
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Speaking of the brainwashing stuff, how does the thought reform or brainwashing, how do they start that process? Can we just go through the whole thing?
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Fascinating stuff. Rick, let's take a quick break. And when we come back, I want to dive into NXIVM. Oh, okay. Perfect. Well, it's that time of year again. The holiday season is officially here, and we've got an amazing holiday offer from my partners at one of the top-rated precious metal companies, Gold Co. You can get up to $15,000 in bonus silver, possibly more on qualified orders.
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And so this one came in from Brandon White, and he wants to know, how can individuals protect themselves and their loved ones from falling victim to these groups? We're going to get into that a little bit later. So I'm going to change the question just a little bit because we are going to cover this.
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So could you go into that a little bit?
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What are a few things that, what are just a couple of quick identifiers for somebody who might think that they would be, they're being recruited by a cult? What are some quick identifiers?
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How many women are out there with his initials branded on them?
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It's interesting to see the type of people that they're able to manipulate into their agenda and spread that type of gossip or rhetoric. But back to the cult within a cult, the sex slaves. So are these actual sex slaves or are they voluntary slaves?
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I mean, what kind of secrets are we talking about here?
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How many women are we talking about here in this secret cult inside the cult?
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How early does that kind of happen? Does that happen early on, or is that they ease people into it?
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What kind of thought reform techniques would he use?
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You know, it's interesting. All these cult leaders seem to go, from what you're saying, off the same playbook. Where... is that playbook? Where's the model from?
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I mean, if they were in a cult and then started, would they have deprogrammed themselves?
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What's the fastest you've seen one of these cults hit traction, growed.
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One of the gentlemen on my team, he actually edits all of the episodes, all the show stuff, grew up in the Jehovah Witness community. And he is, what he likes to say, escaped that community. He calls it a cult.
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What kind of stuff goes on in group housing?
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So I've been looking into taking a peek into secret societies and cults and kind of stuff like this. And you came across our radar, and it sounds like you are the expert in cults and kind of deprogramming people out of these things. Yes. I'm just really fascinated in the subject, and this is the first interview that I'm diving into the subject, and I'm just really happy you're here.
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And, you know, some of the stuff that he has to say about what he's been through and kind of our discussion on the way here from your hotel, I was telling you, you know, his family has totally abandoned him. He doesn't talk to – it's just there's so many things that are fascinating to me about what they go through. And you had kind of mentioned that they have kind of moved away from the cult –
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I would imagine there's quite a bit of pushback at the beginning.
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Interesting. You know, I've seen a couple of people things in surrounding areas here one of them I want I remember when I first moved to Tennessee me and my wife went to this restaurant and it was the it was in this place called Pulaski Tennessee and we went into this restaurant and it was uh I don't know any other way to describe it other than very, very hippie-like.
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And it was a lot of like falafel, vegetarian, stuff like that. But that's not what I'm getting at. What I'm getting at is the minute we entered And it was before we actually moved here. We were looking for a place to live, and we had checked this town out, and this was the only restaurant still open. And we walked in, and immediately it was just a weird vibe in there.
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I don't know, from the cult, uh... It sounds like they're not as much of a cult as they used to be. Am I correct?
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So we started questioning the waiter and asking, I can't even remember what the conversation until, but I do, this is what I remember. He would always refer to the leaders of the cult as the authority. The authority is not gonna like this. The authority wants us to do this. And he was talking about all these different restaurants. And I'd asked him, you know, how do you know where you're going?
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He goes, well, the authority lets us know where we're going. And he would go, you know, get another drink or whatever. And I'd look at my wife like, the authority? Like, what the hell is this? What's going on in here? And we never went back. Yeah.
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To my editor, the guy that edits the show, he talks about I talk to him all the time about this stuff, and he does. He talks about when he left Jehovah's Witnesses. Is that what he said, Jehovah's Witnesses? When he left, I mean, he still says it. He's like, it's like I'm still trying to learn how to live like a normal life. He's like, I've never celebrated a birthday.
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I've never celebrated a Christmas. He's any of that stuff. And he's like, there's just so many things that I don't know that are normal in society that I have. He's still trying to figure out what's normal and abnormal. And it's, wow, wow.
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I find it very interesting how when you're talking about mothers and fathers who are giving up their kids inside these cults or when we're talking about the Yellow Deli crew and these people are working for room and board and that's it. I mean, how do you get a graduate from...
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I mean, how do you get an anesthesiologist who's making half a million a year, maybe more, maybe millions a year, to join a cult and give all of that up for room and board? I mean, what does that conversation look like?
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Wow. Wow. When it comes back to... You know, giving up everything for peanuts. Let's talk about, I mean, what are the conversations like when a woman gives up her children in a cult? That has to be some serious program to overtake Mother Nature's instinct of these are my kids.
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Can we, wow, can we go into the Waco incident a little bit? What was that cult about?
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Would it be fair to say you're just totally indifferent to the Russia-Ukraine situation? Your only concern is you don't want Romania involved.
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I think a lot of people agree with you on that. Exactly. I want to move to your campaign. It's my understanding that your campaign did not require a lot of money, a lot of capital. You don't trust the legacy media and you took to social media. What we saw in 2020 during the Trump-Biden election is Mark Zuckerberg completely de-platformed President Trump.
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He wasn't allowed to use any social media platforms. Jack Dorsey kicked him off of Twitter. I believe even Google also deplatformed them. Are you experiencing any deplatforming or censorship on any of your social media campaigns?
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How have they shut you down? It's my understanding you won the first round with 23% of the vote. Am I correct on that?
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how they deplatformed Trump in 2020. This election, we saw two assassination attempts. We've seen false allegations with all kinds of things in Georgia and New York. And so, what are you expecting to deal with? this election kind of resurfaces. From what I understand, that'll, they're going to, is it May? They'll redo the election?
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Is Romania in the midst of a coup right now?
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How much of this coup has to do with the NATO base that they're building in Romania right now? From my understanding, this will be the biggest NATO base ever to be built in Europe. 1.5 times bigger than Ramstein Air Base. I understood also this.
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with this election that's happening in Romania right now, also with the 2020 election in the United States and the election that we just went through. And so I know you have a limited time and you're a busy man. And so I want to start with what are the allegations against you? You know what?
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Could you be a little bit more specific as to the consequences to the United States if the NATO base does go to completion?
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So this NATO base, just to be clear, the biggest NATO base ever to be built in Europe is going to be constructive to conduct a major offensive into Russia.
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If you do win the presidency here, will you reconstruct the Romanian government? How much will you have to... How much of the government is corrupt? All.
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Yeah. When the election resumes, we have to start from the first round again?
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Well, Mr. Ceausescu, I really appreciate you being here. I can tell you're a great human that cares a lot about your people. And I just want to tell you that I wish you the best of luck. I very much appreciate the time. Thank you. Thank you.
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Mr. Colleen Georgescu, thank you for having me here today. I know we have a lot to talk about. You're one of the most talked about political things right now in Europe, and I understand the importance of it and the timeliness of it. So I just appreciate you meeting me here today. Thank you, Sean. Thank you for having me. It's my honor. Quick introduction.
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One is the last time that Romania had a present that wasn't under the influence of oligarchs in the deep state. Has there ever been?
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When it comes to the allegations against the Russian influence on the election process right now, I just want to ask you, man to man, have you had any contact with Vladimir Putin? No. Zero. Absolutely zero. Is anybody in your campaign that you're aware of?
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You are at the center of one of the most talked about political events in Europe right now. You ran as an independent nationalist candidate who unexpectedly stirred up a political storm in Romania. The first round of voting you won with 23% of the vote. On December 4th, the US expressed concerns over Russian involvement in cyber activities influencing this election.
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peter attia welcome to the show thank you for having me sean so uh i'm really excited about this interview i've been diving into the health space pretty hard uh about the past month and um had a bunch of your constituents on here and uh it's like drinking from a fire hose here for me so really excited to talk to you about about everything that we're going to cover today but um real quick everybody starts out with an intro so
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Thank you for sharing that. I'm curious too, vaccines, all these things are popping in my head that aren't in the online. Vaccines are a major topic of discussion in a lot of homes right now. Everybody that has kids is wondering, me included, should we vaccinate our kids? Should we not? What do we do?
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Me and my wife have kind of set off on this journey interviewing a lot of different medical professionals, and it gets hard. For somebody that's not a medical professional myself, what I find is we'll go to a practice, and it feels like it's a sales pitch. It's a sales pitch on, we don't vaccinate. We're anti-vax. You don't have to vaccinate your kids here. And it's like...
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
That's great, but we still need a healthcare professional. We don't just need somebody to tell us, hey, don't vaccinate your kids at all. Like, what if my kid gets a broken arm? What are you going to treat them with? And it becomes like this sales pitch. The whole pitch is, We don't vax, which, like I said, great, you don't vax, but what do you do here?
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And other than tell me that vaccinations are horrible for my kids and for myself and my wife. And so I'm just curious what your thoughts are on vaccinations. If you have any, what should we be doing? What should we not be doing?
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Well, I think something that I'm afraid of is, you know, there's a lot of talk and maybe it's rhetoric, maybe it's not about, you know, autism, you know, being caused by vaccines. Well, you know, me and my wife talk about this all the time and there's all the people out there that are, you know, my kid took the MMR shot. Hasn't been the same since.
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
And then there's the studies with the rise in autism. But are we testing more effectively for autism? There's got to be some sort of a scale, like how autistic are you? Are we diagnosing more based off of that scale because more and more symptoms or whatever are becoming more prevalent? And so is that the reason that autism is on the rise?
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
we didn't diagnose as many people because the symptoms were not as prevalent or is there actually a rise? And so that's one thing. Then there's all the COVID stuff about the COVID vaccine. Is it giving people, is it creating heart problems? Are people dying from the vaccine? I don't know. You know what I mean? I don't know.
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
I wouldn't, I mean, I don't want to take you off your train of thought, so go ahead.
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The same deer that's in Hawaii?
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
That was actually, that was my question is, you know, do we, if we were to vaccinate our kids, do we break it up? You know, because, you know, we'll go to the doctor and they want to do, they want to do them all at once. And it's like, you know, like I said, for somebody that's not a medical professional. It's overwhelming. Is this too much? Yeah, yeah. In too small amount of time? Do we...
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Do we try to drag this out so that it's one every month? I don't even know the schedule. I'm just saying, do we prolong this so that it's not so many vaccines in such a short amount of time?
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Yeah, I started hunting this year for the first time, just firearms. I'm not into the bow stuff yet. But I love it, man. I think it's just awesome being out there. And then through these health interviews...
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Interesting. Thank you for that. We talk about hunting instead? Yeah. So I want to kind of do a little bit of a life story with you, but before we get started, I have a Patreon account. They're our top supporters. A lot of them have been with us since the beginning. It's grown into a quite the community over there. And without them, I wouldn't be sitting in here and neither would you.
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So one of the things I do is I give them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question. And so this is from Christian. In a time when information is transmitted exponentially and health experts often present contradictory views, How can we distinguish valid analysis from discourses influenced by biased personal agendas?
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learning a lot about what our proteins are eating at the market and the hormones and the garbage food that they... I just had this guy on, Paul Saladino, and he was talking about... I asked him about wild-caught salmon versus farm-raised salmon, and he started going on about what we're feeding the salmon. Holy shit, man. I mean, what do you... Did that play any role into why you started hunting?
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Okay, that's a great answer. And then last thing, everybody gets a gift. I get really self-conscious about giving these out to doctors, but... Vigilance lead gummy bears. You know, all kinds of stuff that's bad for you in there, but they do taste great. They're made here in the USA, and it's kind of a mainstay for the show. It's been going on since we started. Thank you very much. But...
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All right, let's dive into your life story. So I know you grew up in Toronto, and I think your parents came, immigrated from Egypt? Yep. So what were you into as a kid?
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Nice. What were your parents?
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Still close? Very close. I mean, were you a good student? Were you into medical growing up?
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I think so, for sure. Why do you think that?
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Yeah, yeah. How far did you take your boxing career?
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I'm curious. One, you said you clashed with teachers. So how did that teacher make that influence on you?
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. So you went in... Actually, before we go there, I'm also curious. I mean, is a... as a boxer, as a mixed martial arts guy, you know, I've interviewed a handful of, of pro fighters and I'm, I'm always curious, you know, with, with the, with TBIs and all that kind of stuff. Um, what do you think about kids and boxing now?
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Yeah. It seems like everybody that I interviewed that's in that space, they want their kids in some type of mixed martial arts, but no striking, no head shots. I hear that a lot, pretty much from everybody. And yeah, that's interesting. So you go to school. When did you become interested in the medical field?
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What got your motivation into medical?
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Fast forward a little bit, you left your residency.
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What are we missing in between there?
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How long did it take you to kind of cut your emotions off from all that trauma that you were experiencing with your patients? You mean the actual trauma cases? Mm-hmm.
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Interesting. I mean... It seems like everybody's moving to the farm-to-table stuff. At least everybody around here is. It's like a big conversation in the local area. And it seems like a lot more podcasts are starting to talk about that. I mean, how important is it, in your opinion? I mean, everybody's got their shtick, you know, and some people really lean into it.
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Dr. Peter Attia, you are the founder of Early Medical, a medical practice that applies the principles of medicine 3.0 to patients with the goal of simultaneously lengthening their lifespan and increasing their health span. You're the host of The Drive, one of the most popular podcasts covering health and medicine. You frequent number one in the category. Congratulations. That's awesome.
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How do you, you know, as a surgeon that did... treats that much trauma and sees that much death i mean how do you disassociate i mean i could ask you the same question you don't yeah how long have you been married uh we're 21 years now 21 years congratulations thank you what about you i've been married for five years so what's the secret to a successful marriage
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I'm just curious, you know, what your opinion is on, you know, on stuff like salmon or, you know, the cows eating heavy grains.
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And you're leaving your medical residency and you end up at McKinsey modeling credit risk. How did that happen?
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And then you wound up back in the medical industry.
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16, 10, and 7. Well, actually, I was going to ask for fatherly advice, but... How old are yours? Mine are 1 and 3. Okay. We're in it. We're in it. But... You know, being who you are, you're a businessman, you're an author, you're a podcaster, you're a medical professional. I mean, you've got all these things going on. You've got three kids, successful marriage. How do you balance all that?
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What are you driving?
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Nice, nice. Well, let's move into Medical 3.0. What is it?
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Demented diseases being Alzheimer's.
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Interesting.
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
So what are some of the, let's go down each, you'd mentioned, I believe, three pillars, but, you know, four, did you mention four chronic diseases that we're all going to die from, most people are going to die from? Let's start with cardiovascular.
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How do you start to manage them?
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So what are some things that people can do just right off the bat to better their health other than smoking?
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And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter. Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign super bad. She's made two different appearances here on the Sean Ryan Show.
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And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind-blowing. And so I've asked her if she would... contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
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So it's gonna be all things terrorists, how terrorists are coming up through the southern border, how they're entering the country, how they're traveling, what these different terrorist organizations throughout the world are up to. And here's the best part, the newsletter is actually free. We're not gonna spam you. It's about one newsletter a week, maybe two if we release two shows.
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The only other thing that's going to be in there besides the Intel brief is if we have a new product or something like that. But like I said, it's a free CIA intelligence brief. Sign up. Link's in the description or in the comments. We'll see you in the newsletter.
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Now, is there any way to reverse this? Is there any way to clean up your arteries? There is. We're a smoker. Yep. How do you do that?
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
So what are some of the other things you can do to get back to baseline?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Scares the hell out of them. It's like every day. A text comes in, my mom's got cancer, I've got cancer, my kid has cancer, my aunt has cancer, so-and-so died of cancer. I mean, it scares the hell out of me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Well, you know, it also bothers me because you see all these weird cancers, you know, coming up from being overseas. Yep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Yeah, I mean, I don't even know what I've been exposed to, but there's all these weird cancers nobody can explain. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
said this guy on chris fetus who we were talking about the jammers that used to jam the frequency for ieds and stuff and maybe sitting under that thing he says there's been studies out there that have said the uh definitely increases the risk uh by a pretty large amount and i mean it's Man, it's just everything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
And like I said, I've interviewed a lot of your constituents, and everybody has amazing things to say about you. You're also the author of the number one New York Times bestseller, Outlive, The Science and Art of Longevity. You're also an accomplished long distance open water swimmer, including being the first male to complete the round trip between Maui and Lanai.
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
I don't know. I don't know. Me and my wife have talked about doing the pre-cancer stuff. I've had blood work done. I know there's some kind of imagery that you can do. And we were signed up to do it. And then my wife said, hey, what happens if something does pop up? And they say, oh, give God... this much time to live, then how do we treat each other during that time?
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
And that's something I never thought about. I was like, shit, you know, that's... It would be a whole new dynamic. You'd be thinking about your future without that person. That person would think, oh, I'm holding you back in life. And, I mean, so... I don't know. We haven't done it for that reason. Like I said, I did do the blood work and she's getting the blood work done.
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
And so far, you know, so good. But I mean, what do you do?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Well, what if you do get a false positive? Then what happens?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Why did you come off that diet?
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
What age should people start getting screened?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Okay. Rewind back to cardiovascular stuff. You had mentioned getting back to baseline. How do we know when we're back to baseline?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Okay. Okay. Back to cancer. Preventatives. I've talked a lot about this with other health professionals on the show, and it seems like plastics, sugar, What else? Single ingredient foods. I mean, do you have any, do you have any?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Once again, when you're smoking, smoking cigarettes?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Yeah, yeah. What about plastic bottles? I try to avoid them. Yeah. I can taste it now. We had a filtration system put in, and now if I go to the gas station, I can taste the plastic. I couldn't before because I was so used to it, but I definitely taste it now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Okay. Yeah. What about household chemicals? Does that play a big role in cancer?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
What about sugar? Does cancer feed off sugar?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Do you try to do, I'm just curious, you personally, do you try to do the farm to table stuff or do you,
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
That's another thing that scares the hell out of me. More and more, it seems like people are getting dementia, Alzheimer's. How do we prevent that? Can we prevent that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Everything else is... I have heard and read, and like I said, I don't know. I don't really know what I'm reading, if it's factual or not. There's a lot of talk about psychedelics.
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
And... helping with adhd helping with anxiety helping with addiction and and and i did it i did an ibogaine treatment about three years ago came off booze it'll be three years this valentine's day um does that help with there's also been talk about that helping with dementia alzheimer's
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
No, I didn't. I mean, I used to be a very heavy drinker. And then by the time, which I still was a heavy drinker, but I'd kind of like, Gotten away from hard alcohol. Vodka was kind of my poison. And then kind of moved into wine. I was probably drinking a bottle, maybe a little bit more a night. But I went there for more anxieties, PTSD, traumatic brain injury type stuff. And it's the same thing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
I wanted to be more in the moment with my family. And I just interviewed people. former colleague after former colleague over and over again. And all these guys would just have these profound benefits that came out of it. And then when I came out, that was one of the things. I'd kicked caffeine for about six months. I'd kicked marijuana for close to six months. I've kicked booze completely.
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
I haven't had a drop of alcohol in almost three years. I was more on the moment. And then... Yeah, so all that kind of stuff was kind of a byproduct that I wasn't expecting. Caffeine was gone for quite a while. I drink tea now instead of coffee. Sugar, kicked that for probably three or four months. And it's interesting, right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Oh, no, I wouldn't say it's 10 minutes. I think it's about a 12-hour experience. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah, I think it's about, I think the effects, you're kind of in it for about 12 hours and then came out of it. And then, you know, all these good things happen. I did wind up, it's been, what, probably about three months since I've had any marijuana, which really decreased my sugar intake.
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
So there is nothing thus far that states that psychedelics may help with dementia.
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
You know, we're getting a little in the weeds before we really start here, but I wanted to – you brought up studies earlier. And, you know, I don't think it's any secret everybody is – there's been a lot of distrust in the healthcare system and where these studies come from. Is Big Pharma the only one doing the studies on the medicine that they're producing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Have you personally done any of these therapies?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Are the food companies, corporations doing the studies on the food that's coming out? And so I kind of want to ask you, you know, what do you think about those studies? Are they only, is that who's conducting the studies and are there alternatives?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
You know, yes, I do every once in a while. I'm very I have very clear intentions when I do it. And I've done psilocybin, 5-MeO, Iboga.
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Yes. But what I see, especially in the veteran community, is I see people, friends of mine, that... They go and they do Ibogaine. Then they do psilocybin. Then they do ayahuasca. Then they're doing MDMA. Then they're mixing it all together. Then they're going and doing peyote. And they start living in that space. And it's like, man, look, what are you digging for here?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
You have to actually take whatever you learned in that and change the habit and carry on with your life here in the real world. Otherwise, it's just...
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
I've heard that the only thing you do in moderation is moderation itself. And like I said, I'm really excited to dive into Medicine 3.0, but we had a little side conversation downstairs when we were getting started. So you're a hunter.
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Can I ask you who... Who's apprehensive?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Wow. That's interesting.
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Let's move into exercise. So it sounds like exercise helps pretty much all of these four pillars that are these four disease types. What kind of exercise are you doing? What should people be doing? I mean, do they need to dedicate three hours a day to this? Does it have to be super strenuous? I mean, what do you recommend?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Okay, so how many hours a week?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
let's talk about emotional health. This is something you talk about, about kind of broached psychedelics. What, what other kinds of things should people be doing for emotional health?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
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#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
It's sleep. How do we improve our sleep? Do you recommend everybody do a sleep study? No, I don't think so.
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Man, that's a lot of great information. Thank you. Is there anything that we didn't cover that you'd like to cover?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Then we'll end with this. I just want to know, what is your daily routine? Not when you're on travel and going to podcasts. What is your picture-perfect daily routine that you don't like to interrupt?
Shawn Ryan Show
#181 Peter Attia - The Science of Longevity, Nutrition Myths and Medicine 3.0
Then the Lumen app gives you a personalized nutrition plan to help optimize your workouts and even manage stress. I check mine first thing in the morning. It's best to check it first thing in the morning. It's like a status report for my metabolism. It's best to check it first thing in the morning. It's like a status report for your metabolism.
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Roka let me try a pair of these things and I can feel the difference. Whenever I wear them, I wear them in the evening after the sun goes down. I pretty much start it at dinner and I wear it until bed. And let me tell you, these things work. With so many options in eyewear and wellness products out there, it's a relief to know the glasses I'm wearing help two things I really care about.
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
So, you think about education, you think about economic excellence, that's great.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Ich denke, viele Leute sind bereit für das. Homeschooling ist gerade auf einem riesigen Niveau.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Wie weit sind Sie mit diesem Thema gekommen? Ich meine, wie würde es gemacht werden?
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Okay, ich glaube, was mir kommt, ist, dass ich denke, dass du dich in Probleme befinden kannst. Und vielleicht hast du das durchgeführt. Du weißt, wenn du zurückguckst, Was waren die EZAs? Künstliche Bildung, Kunst, Home Economics, und so weiter. Das war fast alles. Wie setzt man sie auf die gleiche Payscale wie jemand, der lehrt, Calculus at a junior and high school level.
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
A more challenging course that people are going to struggle with more.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Warum sagst du, dass es sich um das Staat handelt? Ich hatte eine sehr interessante Konversation mit Eric Prince vor einiger Zeit hier. Das ist ein sehr smarter Kerl. Ja, ein interessanter Kerl. Ich liebe, mit Eric zu sprechen. Aber er hat mich verändert. Viele Leute waren überrascht, wie diese Wahl gehen würde. Und Eric hat es mir in den Kopf gebracht,
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Das macht einen hellen Haufen Sinn für mich. Und was ich mit den Homeschool-Tipps gemeint habe, ist, dass ich denke, dass die Leute... dass die Bildungssysteme verfehlt werden. In vielen Gründen. Sie nehmen ihre Wünsche in ihre eigenen Hände. Was kann man sonst noch tun? Das ergibt einen großen Sinn. Zurück nach Ohio. Du hast erwähnt, und trainieren Menschen, wie sie AI nutzen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Die Staaten könnten noch wichtiger sein als das föderale Regierung. Wir sollten uns darauf konzentrieren, vielleicht mehr auf lokalen Städte und Städte und Städte und Städte und Städte und Städte und Städte und Städte und Städte und Städte
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Es gibt eine Menge Angst, dass AI die Editeure übernehmen wird. Sie werden die Anwesenden übernehmen. Sie werden die Ärzte übernehmen. All diese Anwesenden haben eine Menge Angst, dass AI übernehmen wird. Wie wird AI eigentlich Jobs schaffen?
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
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Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Exzellent, exzellent.
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Sprechend von Trump, es ist nur ein paar Wochen her. Es scheint sich wirklich etwas zu verändern. Ich denke, viel schneller, als es sich jemals vorgestellt hätte. Wie geht es dir? Ich glaube, es geht gut.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Wenn dein Metabolismus richtig funktioniert, kannst du es in jedem Teil deines Lebens fühlen. Mehr Energie, verbessertes Schlaf, es ist verbunden. Deshalb habe ich angefangen, Lumen zu benutzen, ein kraftvolles Werkzeug, das mich hilft, real-zeit Hinweise auf meinen Metabolismus zu bekommen. Lumen ist einer der weltweit ersten handgelegten metabolischen Trainer.
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Du lachst einfach rein und es lässt dir wissen, ob du Fett oder Carbs brennst. Dann gibt dir das Lumen App einen personalisierten Nahrungsplan, um deine Workouts zu optimieren und Stress zu lösen. Ich schaue meinen ersten Tag morgens an. Es ist am besten, den ersten Tag morgens anzuschauen. Es ist wie ein Statusreport für meinen Metabolismus. Es ist am besten, den ersten Tag morgens anzuschauen.
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Natürlich. Ist er es in einer Art und Weise gemacht, dass es nicht überwältigt werden kann?
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Did you see, was it yesterday, maybe it was the day before, the first foreign dignitary to be in the White House, Netanyahu? Yes, I think there's more coming as well. Ich bin mir sicher, dass es noch viel mehr kommt. Aber was hast du gemacht, als er sagte, er hat ihn wirklich da hingewiesen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Lass uns über DOGE sprechen. Das Department of Government Efficiency. Ja, ich liebe es.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
How many people are involved with that?
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Nein, wirklich nicht. Es wird viel über USAID geredet, und über all das Funding für verschiedene Dinge. Es sieht so aus, als wären sie in Rumänien involviert. Das ist verrückt. Auch die russische politische Presse. Es ist verrückt. Das hat viele Leute angeschaut. Wir machen ein Interview hier in ein paar Tagen darüber. I was surprised at the USAID stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Ich möchte mehr darüber nachdenken, aber wenn es um diese Drogen von Leuten geht, die die blauen Staaten verlassen und in die roten Staaten kommen. Ja. Und ich denke, viele Leute sind wirklich überrascht mit den Policien in den blauen Staaten, besonders in Kalifornien.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Ich meine, wir haben alle diese, nur in den zwei Wochen, wir haben alle diese Dinge identifiziert, wo es, du weißt, es ist nur Geld, das einfach aus der Tür geht, für verschiedene Gründe. Und so ist es, When they unveil it and they unveil, hey, USAID funded whatever, insert any of the last 10 things that they unveiled, is that when the funding stops? Is it an exposure game?
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Doge exposes it to the US government?
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Ich bin sicher, dass es noch einen großen Fluss gibt, sobald diese Sicherheitsunternehmen anfangen, all diese Feuerzeuge auszulösen. Es ist etwas, was ich höre, Tennessee ist übergegangen, mit Leuten, die ihre Staaten verlassen. Es ist toll, all diese neuen Leute zu haben, aber es kostet alle Lokalisten, die dieses Staat heute gemacht haben.
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Ich glaube, was ich frage, ist, danke, dass du all das erklärt hast, aber was ich frage, ist, wie funktioniert es? Schaltet Doge die Lichter auf das spartige Spenden, bekommt diese Informationen, To the president. And then the president makes the decision whether to stop it or not to stop it. Eminently sensible.
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Okay. And then what is the... Was ist die Strategie? Ich meine, du kannst nicht... Ich glaube nicht, dass du das kannst. Man kann nicht alle wasserlosen Spenden auf einmal übernehmen. Sie beginnen in Kategorien. Sie gehen durch USAID, FBI, CIA.
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Es fährt sie aus, mit den Wohnpreisen, mit der Inflation. Es fährt alles auf, besonders in dieser Stadt. Gibt es irgendeinen Weg? Was denken Sie daran? Willten Sie, dass Ohio das wird?
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#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Ich denke, das auch. Wie lange erwartest du den ersten Wurf? How long do you anticipate the initial sweep to go for?
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Ich mag einen schönen Kaffee, aber... Das gleiche. Ja. Aber, äh, ja, ich habe dich bei den Auszeichnungen gesehen. Ja, ja, wir haben dich dort gesehen. Army-Navy-Game. Army-Navy-Game.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Well, Vivek, I appreciate you coming and we'll see you again. Good seeing you, my man. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Ein paar Mal, ja. Ja. Danke, dass du mich da reinbringst. Ja, das war, das war Spaß. Und, äh, aber, ja, also viel ist passiert, du weißt, seitdem ich dich letztens gesehen habe, besonders seitdem wir uns interviewiert haben. Ja. Und so... A lot of good. A lot of good stuff to cover today, but I gotta ask.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Was ist mit Dingen wie den traditionellen... generational occupations like farming like i mean i don't know how i mean like farmer here you know here in this county i mean they you sell a thousand acres here i mean you're looking at Wahrscheinlich ein paar hundert Millionen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Und du hast diese Farmen, diese Kettel-Farmen und all diese Leute, die... Ich weiß nicht, es ist wahrscheinlich für das größere Gut. Ich weiß nicht, ich weiß, dass es definitiv die Ökonomie verbessert, aber ich meine, die Landwirte sind hier einfach weggegangen. Ich meine, sie können keine 1.000-Aker-Kettel-Ranche aufbauen. wenn sie es für ein paar hundert Millionen verkaufen können.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Und dann die andere Sache, ich lasse dich weg, ich lasse dich davon reden. Nein, nein, nein, geh' weiter. Ja.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Aber dann die andere Sache ist, und das ist nicht nur meine Meinung, ich meine, du kannst an jedem Facebook-Gruppe schauen, du kannst den lokalen Gossips um die Stadt hören und, weißt du, der große Wunsch ist, ist dieser Influx von Leuten aus Kalifornien, New York, New Jersey, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, ich meine, werden sie das Staat umdrehen?
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Jeder ist fürchtet, werden wir die Dinge in den Schulen hier sehen, die du gesehen hast, wo du herkommst? Ich meine, es ist ein großer Wunsch. Ich weiß nicht, es scheint hier, es könnte, ich weiß nicht, ich würde gerne sehen, dass der Wachstum etwas langsam geht.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Wenn du deine Gesundheit so ernsthaft wie ich bist, weißt du, wie wichtig Hydratierung ist. Deshalb will ich dir über Hoist erzählen. Hoist ist in den USA hergestellt und hat drei mal die Elektrolyte und halb den Zucker, als andere Sporttrinken, ohne Artifizierte Dosen oder Preservativen. Hoist ist weltweit auf militärischer Ebene. serving warfighters in operations and training.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
I wish I had had Hoist as an option for hydration during my military career, especially the brand new flavor they just released, Five Star Punch. Through December 31st, 2025, Hoist is donating a minimum of $10,000 to Folds of Honor, a non-profit organization that provides educational scholarships to family members of fallen service members or first responders.
Shawn Ryan Show
#169 Vivek Ramaswamy - Making Ohio Tax Free, DeepSeek, DOGE and the Education Crisis
Was hat dich dazu gebracht? Du hast den Präsidenten gewählt, du wirst wohl für den Gouverneur gehen. Was war der Schiff? Warum hast du dich entschieden, mehr aufs Staat zu konzentrieren? Es gibt ein paar Gründe.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
What did you think of Bud's?
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
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Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Well, not very many people get through BUDS in their 30s.
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
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Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
How were you greeted at SEAL Team 2 when you showed up?
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
So where was your first deployment?
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Were you upset that you missed the war?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
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Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
And how was your wife? Did she follow you through all this?
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
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Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
And, uh, you know, it's, it seems I moved up here from South Florida, uh, where there's a massive American Cuban population and they're all saying the same things. It's, it seems like anybody that you talk to that moved here from a communist country or socialist, uh, maybe not all socialists, but Venezuela, Cuba, Poland, um, They're all saying the same stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
And it's just really interesting to hear. And I think it's an important conversation.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
with today's technology and government coercion takes its toll so people don't hear about it and don't know about it so yes we need to be more proactive and especially with our children thank you for that so uh eric's a huge fan the guy that asked the question eric olger so if it's okay with you i'm gonna have you sign this at the end of the interview we're gonna send it to him uh i'm sure he would love that so
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
That's interesting. I don't know much about that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Was your Iraq deployment the first time you saw actual combat? Yeah, that was the first time I've seen the combat. Let's talk about that. You've done four deployments. And then you finally go to Iraq to see actual combats.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
And women, you know, that have had phenomenal careers and very interesting life stories and have been through a lot of, just a lot of everything, operated at the highest level. traumatic experiences and how they got out of those. Because I think, you know, somebody like yourself, that brings a lot of hope. And I mean, we're both very aware of what's going on in the veteran community right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Field Team 2. I didn't realize Jocko was ever on the East Coast.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
All right, let's get into the interview. Born in 1960, growing up in communist or socialist at that time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Yeah, you know, I never did any VBSS in the SEAL teams. Just one training op, that's it.
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Let's take another quick break. When we come back, we'll pick back up in Iraq. Exclusive merch and more. Join us and become a patron starting at just $5 a month by visiting patreon.com slash vigilance elite. That's patreon.com slash vigilance elite. Thank you for listening to the Sean Ryan show. If you haven't already, please take a minute, head over to iTunes and leave the Sean Ryan show review.
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
We read every review that comes through. and we really appreciate the support. Thank you. Let's get back to the show. All right, Drago, we're back from the break. Let's pick up to your first deployment to Iraq, where you saw a lot of combat, it sounds like. So you went from South America, to Iraq to be a liaison with SEAL Team 5 for the Polish GROM, correct? Yes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
And so, a lot of questions, but let's start with what was it like for you to go to combat and to be a liaison with the Polish GROM? Being bullish.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Did they operate the same as we did?
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Interesting. Yeah, I never got to work with them, but I remember when I was contracting for CIA, I saw them. They were co-located to an adjacent... Forward operating base. And those guys were busy. They were going out several times a night. They had these dune buggy looking things and they were just tearing it up. Yeah. And made me extremely jealous to watch. But I was like, oh, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Yeah, so what about their team dynamic? Do they have a good camaraderie?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
I'm just curious, what were your conversations with them like? Did you have conversations about your childhood?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
I mean, you had not been back to Poland since you left, correct? Yes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
So, I mean, did they have questions for you about what your childhood was like in prison?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
But I thought there was a lot of chatter back and forth about it. Were you very curious about what Poland was like now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Did any of them want to come over?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
What was the... What was the daily life routine there? Were you guys going out all the time?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
What was the first stop where you killed an enemy combatant?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Did that affect you at all? No. No? Killing never affected you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Why was it frowned upon to go to church?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Well, what was it like leaving before we get there? What was it like leaving with the whole neighborhood shooting at you guys?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
You know, I think we're up to, what, 40 veterans a day. commit suicide. And I think that, you know, this show and getting stories out like yours, it puts it on display and it brings veterans from all walks an example. And it just proves that there's a way out of that rut, you know, in that gap from service and to finding success in the civilian world.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
It all blends into one.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
I think it was brave. Maybe you weren't thinking about it at the time, but not only getting shot by your own guys because everybody's hyped up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
There's also the possibility that the man would have had a suicide vest on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
So when you got back from the mission, when did you find out who it was that you had pucked?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
I'm just curious, do you remember what the write-up says?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
And how long, how many times did you go to Iraq?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
So he abandoned his three kids and his wife.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
So after all your Iraq tours, you went to Bud's to be an instructor.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
How did you like your Buds tour?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
So growing up, if he grew up as a He's a Catholic.
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Or a believer. Yes. I mean, what was it that got into him that changed his entire view? Do you know?
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Yeah. Yeah, I hope that happens. We have the secretary of the VA coming on soon, and that's a big discussion I'm going to have with him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
But on a hunting trip, on a hunting trip.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Awesome human. Yes. I never served with him. I did.
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
He was a big part of me finding my faith. Yes. He was.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Yeah. He's a great guy, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
And that they're not the only ones that are going through that kind of experience. There's a lot of us. And I'm one of them. And I know you're one of them. And pretty much everybody we've ever had on this show from a military standpoint is also one of them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
I'm proud to know you, man. I think that's the perfect way to end this. And I just want to say, Thomas, It was an honor to interview you and just get to know you. And like I said, I've just heard so much about you and your reputation speaks for itself. And so I'm really thankful we met.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
All right, Drago, you got an update on the judge that prosecuted you in Poland.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
When you forgive, you free yourself. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Well, Drago, thank you again for coming back and setting that record straight and being open and vulnerable and, you know, it'll lack for better words, you know, Setting humility aside for the for the full story. I really appreciate it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
I saw when your book came out, and I've been kind of watching you from afar on social media, and I think you're a great person, and so it's an honor for me to have you here as well.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Where's your brother?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
So you're not close with your brother?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Were you close with your siblings growing up? Yes. What would you guys do? Did you guys have any fun?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
You are like us. Because you are one of us.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Yeah. Before we get... When did you come over? I came in 1984.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Wow. Well, we'll get super in-depth on that, but to start off, everybody gets an introduction here and a gift. You know you got a gift coming if you watch the show. Thomas Drago-Geran. You're a Polish-born warrior who grew up under communist rule. You spent two years in jail as a political prisoner for standing up to a regime that tried to silence you with censorship and oppression.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
You came to America in 1984 and became a U.S. citizen in 1991. You're a retired U.S. Navy SEAL who served with SEAL Team 2 and SEAL Team 4 running over 100 direct action missions in Iraq as a lead breacher. You are a recipient of of the Bronze Star with V for Ballard. You are the founder of the Navy SEAL Fund, giving back to the Brotherhood and ConnectZing, a platform fighting for free speech.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Did that affect you at all?
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
You're the author of the book, The Pledge to America. You're a husband to Rachel, who is an Air Force Academy graduate, father of four, and most importantly, a Christian and devout Catholic.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
No? Killing never affected you? Drago, welcome to the show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
You had mentioned people...
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
And American. And American. So everybody kicks it off with a gift. Those are Vigilance Elite gummy bears.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Made here in the USA by Americans. You mind if I just open it now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Are you familiar? I'm just curious. Are you familiar with what's going on in Romania? Have you been following that at all?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like it's on the cusp. I went over to Romania to interview Colleen Georgescu. You had a commanding lead in the election and they froze the election. Yes. I guess they unfroze it and they just pulled him. He's not running anymore. They just completely pulled him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Oh, I love it. Perfect. And then... Since I found out you're a Catholic, I wanted to give you this. So that, do you know Dom Razo? He was at two. He's my generation.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
He's a SEAL, and he has these warrior's rosaries made, and... He gave me one a long time ago, and I carry it everywhere with me for protection. I have mine in my pocket right here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Yeah, you know, I think that just, you know, I grew up Catholic. Then I kind of fell out of it, you know, in the SEAL teams. I think most people did. And then kind of found faith again a couple years ago. And I'll tell you one thing. I just think the Catholic religion has it right when it comes to protection and talking about demonic entities and all of that kind of stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
So I carry mine everywhere I go. But... So I wanted you to have one.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Wow. You know, you see a lot of that going on on the West Coast right now with that and Washington. If you don't subscribe to the gender confusion stuff that's going on right now, then the state will come in, take your kids.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
It's an honor to have you. So we have a ton of mutual friends, and I've heard about you since I was in the SEAL teams, and you just have a phenomenal reputation, and I can't believe we have not crossed paths until today.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Dom's been a mentor of mine when it comes to... Dom? Yeah, Dom.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
And so when you moved in with your father and his wife,
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Cool. uh and so before we get two in the weeds on the interview which i can't wait i have a subscription account on patreon and we've built it into one hell of a community i think we're at about 60 something thousand members now but you know when i i was telling you and your wife downstairs i started this in my attic and it was to it was to basically shine a light on
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
So it lasted with your dad for about a year. Yeah. And then you got sent back at what age, 17 now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
How was it starting your life back again with your mom?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
And then you found yourself in prison.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
on veterans who who've just who have done amazing things and are doing amazing things now and back then when i was in my attic nobody wanted to touch me nobody wanted to fund anything advertise with me and so And I needed some income, you know, to grow this. And so I started a community on Patreon.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
And that community has just carried me all the way from the attic of my house to the amazing team that I have today to this studio that we're in now. And now we're building a 7,000-square-foot studio out in the woods. And... That community has just always supported me and always supported our guests as well.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
And so one of the things that we do is we offer our Tier 3 members the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question. And you had quite a few questions. Okay. So this is from Eric Auger. Do you see any parallels between the tactics used by the communist regime in Poland and what's happening in the U.S. today? And then there's a follow-on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
And more importantly, how can the average American recognize and push back before it's too late?
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
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Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
How would the hunger strike have worked if they were censoring all the media? How would anybody know you guys were on the house?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
If they caught you with it? No, no, no, no, no. What would the consequences be for the government if people knew that, I mean, they're already arresting. They shut down communications at midnight that day. Right. And did mass arrests.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
And so I guess what I'm asking is what would the consequences have been for the government when the church would leak out that there was a hunger strike? Right.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Where did you go? Do you want back?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
What are some of the things that stick out to you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Did any of your siblings or your mother come with you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Let's take a quick break. Yeah. And when we come back, we'll get into the USA.
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
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#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
These statements and information are not a substitute for or alternative to seeking care from your healthcare providers. All right, Drago, we're back from the break. And so a couple of interesting conversations we got to revisit that happened off camera. One, you said you're a bad student. Now you're a software engineer? Software engineer, yes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
And then we had a conversation too, we have to get this, about Taekwondo. And I was talking about Palmer Luckey's cameras and then somehow that morphed, or helmet, and then somehow that morphed into, oh yeah, morphed into cameras. And then basically you guys critiquing yourself on the street.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
I have to say, it never occurred to me to pin a guy's tongue to his lip after I beat him up. So it doesn't choke to death.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
So let's get to, so you came to America, you had $20.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
I would disagree with you. You're definitely not a small guy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Eric had was, you know, how can the average American push back before it's too late?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Yeah. That's cool, man. It wouldn't surprise me if he's listening. What's that? It would not surprise me if he's listening.
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Where did you go from mechanics?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Yeah, I'm 65. Wow. Well, you know, I mean, this is how the show started. You know what I mean? Was... Nobody's a small guy, you know, that we have on. Some people don't have the exposure that I think that they should have. And, you know, when I started this, that's how I wanted it to be. I wanted to...
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
Did you have any idea what a SEAL was at that time? No. Other than skydivers?
Shawn Ryan Show
#189 Thomas "Drago" Dzieran - Navy SEAL / The Terrorist Terrorizer
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You know, a lot of guys that I've interviewed from a lot of your guys that I've interviewed say that Green Team is harder than Bud's, was tougher than Bud's. Would you agree with that statement?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Man, I don't know. I've not done, I've not done anything like that. I've yeah. I've jumped out of planes, but not to the extent that you have. So like, could you go into the little more detail on like why that's so challenging?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I don't mean like all together. I mean like when you jump out and you're navigating into a target. Yeah, it just depends on— What's the longest one you've been on in the air from out of the plane to landings?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
How do you know what squadron you're going to? Is it a dream sheet like coming out of Bud's?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Is it true that that they put a list of names or a photo of every guy that's screening up and they do a yes, no, yes, no?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Were they, I mean, describe, well, let me go back for just a second. What's it like graduating Green Team?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
So what did you... I know you're a sniper. When did that... You're on the recce team, correct?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I did not know that that was happening over there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
It doesn't make sense to me. We just talked about your green team and how rigorous it was and how, like, you know, the level. You know, you described it like a level. The bubble gets out and you're gone. And then you deploy... And you got these guys that, I mean, they probably wouldn't even be SEALs.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
On your last mission, you were involved in a hostage rescue mission that changed your life forever. You were credited with a 900-yard sniper shot on an enemy in a mountainous region of Somalia. Incredible. You were a contractor for the Sensitive Activities Division of the Defense Threat Reduction Agency for six years.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Why do you think that was? Why what was? Why do you think that war went the way it did? I mean, it was... Fucking balls to the wall at the beginning.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And then you saw the ROEs start changing, and then it got to the point where it's like, why are we even here? You're chopping these guys' legs out, and you're essentially giving, not essentially, you are 100% giving the enemy an advantage by slapping these ROEs on us.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
That's a good answer. One more, Stephen Casey. What advice do you have for exiting military members whose skill set slash area of military service diverges widely from their passion and which may take time to develop?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I don't know, man. I got some, uh, A little bit different opinion on that than you, but... Yeah, that's okay. I just... I mean, I guess you can't really... That's from a warfighter's perspective. Yeah. It's sort of an overarching force, you know? I'm really scared what's coming, you know? I mean, because we had a handle on it. In my opinion, I don't think we can say that we won that war.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
We definitely... killed more bad guys than they did of us. But, you know, the thing is, I mean, fuck, man. We left everything there. There simply being that it's worse off now than we ever started. That's kind of what I'm getting at. The fact that it's worse off now than when we entered.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And the fact that now there are 21 different terrorist organizations all convoluting together, you know, and coming up through our fucking southern border that we're funding, we are funding. I mean, that is a, that's pretty devastating. I mean, they have... definitely strengthened in a very short amount of time. And we're gonna fucking feel it here. We are going to feel it in this country.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You know, we're being forced. Because we didn't finish the job.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
We already saw it. We saw it in Israel. We saw it at that Russian mall. We've seen it happen here before. You know, they came out with a report. Do you know who Sarah Adams is by chance?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Say again? She's the Ascari media woman?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of stuff she talked about. There's this book that came out. It's almost more like a report. I wish Scott Mann told me about it in his interview that we just released. So anybody listening, they can go back to get that. But they are predicting. Al Qaeda, terrorist networks are predicting, they're saying that the casualties that we will feel will be 50 to 60,000.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
50 to 60,000 casualties when they decide to make their move in our home front.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
It's not kooks and conspiracy theorists. We are funding Taliban. Yeah, you've proven it. We proved it on the show. 9-11 was a $500,000 budget. Government already came out after we broke the news right here in this fucking room that they accidentally...
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
accidentally sent 239 million dollars to the fucking taliban and and but we know it's more like close to a billion a year you know that's going to these ngos and being funneled back to the And we know that they're producing passports. I've talked about this a million times, but we know they're producing passports, sending them into South Central America.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
They're funneling up to the southern border.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah, yeah. But, well, Chris, let's move into your final op. Are you ready? Yeah, yeah, I'm ready. I know this is heavy for you. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
We got to hear that one first.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah. I mean, I don't know what the fuck I like to do. I did all kinds of shit. I sure as hell didn't think I was going to like sitting down talking to people for six hours because I don't like talking to people outside of the show anyways. I'm an introvert. But I mean, I think you just got to, one, One, you got to close that fucking door. That's what I think.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You have to close that door because you are leaving a community that doesn't want you to leave and that you're passionate about. Like nobody in SOF, probably even in the military, especially in combat arms, is not passionate about what they're doing and the people that they're with. And when that's over, you have to shut that door and tune that out. It's done. You're never going back.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
It's not going to happen. And if you're like me, and I'm sure you and a lot of the other gents that have been in here, I mean, that's all you had time for, man, is to pour your heart and soul into that. your unit, into war fighting, into building that camaraderie and culture and just being a fucking warrior.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And so you don't know what you like to do because that's been 100% of your dedication and mindset and everything goes into that. And so when you get out, you got to try everything, man. You got to, I mean, you just have to, have to, Keep bouncing around until you feel good. And then when you feel good, you're probably on to something. That's right.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You were responsible for assessing, planning, and executing sensitive capabilities to support Special Operation Forces operations globally. Post-military, you became the founder and CEO of Bee Free Ice Cream, where the meaning came from a discovery that true personal freedom comes only from the clarification of one's mind to realize happiness is a choice. Incredible.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And it becomes, when you find something and it becomes your new most important thing in life, other than your family, that's it. So dive in.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Damn, Chris. You know, when we spoke the first time, you had mentioned dreams. Can you talk about those dreams?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Do you think those kids have ever tried to make contact with you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Did you know Gabe McCarty? No, I don't think so. He was at Team 10. No, I didn't know him. But I've told this before, but I'm going to tell you because... I know that motherfucker contacts me all the time. And I'll tell you one example. That's his flag up there. But, um... The red wing? Yep. Flag. He, uh... Well, that was Josh Harris' flag, but Gabe was Josh's best friend. And, uh...
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Gabe cared about three things. He became a really bad heroin addict. And when he knew things were getting super dicey, he would give me that flag, those rounds, and I told you where those came from, and his grandpa's firefighter helmet. Because that's just the only three things he fucking cared about. And he passed away several years ago, but I've had a lot of encounters with him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And I'll tell you, the last one that I had was You know, I've never told anybody this, or I have not said this on the show, but those rounds are from the Red Wings birds that went down. Well, I'm honored for you to tell me. A ranger that was on the recovery op at the crash site gave those rounds to him and said that those were the only things that didn't burn up in the crash site.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
So he snapped off a round for every guy that died on that op and brought them home. And he just had them in a little fucking shave kit. And he would give them to me if he thought he was going to check out. I'll probably give them to a museum or something when I feel the time's right.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
But before he died, he would come over to my house all the time and tell me that he was going to start a Wounded Warriors hockey team sponsored by the NHL, completely junked out. And you've seen what that looks like. And a lot of people listening have seen what that looks like. It's not a fucking pretty sight. And, you know, I dedicated several years of my life to trying to make him better.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And had some successes, but ultimately it didn't work out, obviously. But But he would tell me, I'm going to, yeah, the Florida Panthers NHL team, they're going to sponsor me. And I'd be like, okay, Gabe, I hope you're right, man. And when they found him, when he died... the Florida Panthers NHL team decided they were going to sponsor him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And so they went to his house to tell him that they were going to fund his team and be the sponsor. And he was, he'd overdosed and was on the floor. Fast forward, they still stood the team up. They still funded the team, his name's on all the jerseys. And I got one of the first jerseys ever made. And they won the fucking national championships the very first year.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And then I told you I went to Vienna and I did that Massoud interview.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And we were the first ones to report that. And I got super fucking paranoid for protection. And did I... And I got a little too far in front of my skis and started hiring personal protection for my family. And fucking Taliban's called me out on X several times because we're fucking with their funding. And we came home from that Vienna trip. And I had that jersey framed.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
It's the first thing you see when you walk in the door right next to the American flag. huge probably weighs 30 pounds it's been hanging there ever since i got this studio which has been about three years now and we got back and that that frame was uh it had fallen off the wall and it was on the ground it should have broke because of how heavy it is
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Not a crack in the glass, not a frame still, nothing. Perfect condition. And we walk in. This is the day after we got back from Vienna. And I'm like... Nobody here could have taken it because the whole team went to Vienna with me, except my assistant. And she wouldn't have done it. But I asked her, I said, hey, did you, what's this? And she's like, I liked that when I came in.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Nobody else was here, like I said. And so like all day that was in my mind as I'm here working. And then the team left and then everybody in the buildings left. And I was the last car in the parking lot and I'm pacing around. And I just, I just thought, cause like I said, Gabe had made contact several times before and I'm like pacing around and I'm like, fuck man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Like what, what are you trying to tell me, man? And do I need to, like, fucking move? Do I need to hire more protection? Like, what do I need to do? What are you telling me? And I go home, and I tell my wife, Katie, I'm like, man, the weirdest fucking thing, like, that... That frame's been up there. It's been on the wall for three years. I've never taken it off. And then I come home from Vienna.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Great advice, man. Well, let's get into the interview. First, one last thing. Everybody gets a gift, even you, Chris. I guess we're going to be competitors in the sweets business.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I'm super paranoid. And the frame's down. And I feel like Gabe's trying to tell me something. And Katie goes, the hockey jersey? And I'm like, yeah. And she goes, Sean, the Florida Panthers just won the fucking Stanley Cup. And I was like, what? She's like, the Florida Panthers just won the Stanley Cup. And I was like, holy shit. And then I looked at my watch. And the date was June 28th.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah, the day. June 28th's the anniversary to Red Wings, which was a massive part of Gabe's life because those were his guys. That was his platoon. And I just fucking lost it. But that's too many coincidences to be anything else. And then I thought, that fucker isn't trying to warn me anything. He's just going, no, you fucking idiot. I'm not trying to warn you of anything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You're not that damn important. The fucking Panthers won the Stanley Cup, and it's June 28th, and I just want your attention. But there's signs, man. There's always signs of your bad attention.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I'm going to put these in some ice cream, see what happens. Hell yeah, do it. Do it. Vigilance League gummy bears, legal in all 50 states, made in the USA. You're not going to get any weird feelings if you have any.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
It's got to be harder to not believe than it is to believe. I think so. But the only reason I'm kind of bringing this up right now, man, is for me, I think life is all about love and forgiveness. Yeah. Those kids' souls are somewhere. And I could see it all over you that you want to know that you've been forgiven. And you love those kids. And I mean, you can see that you're so genuine about it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Maybe they will make contact. Maybe they're trying to. And maybe... I think they are me, you know? Maybe that's the... We're all connected. ...assignment you need to know. That they're good with it. Bud. Thanks for sharing that. Well, thank you for that. You want to take a break? Yeah, I'd be good. Let's take a break. Thank you for listening to The Sean Ryan Show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
If you haven't already, please take a minute, head over to iTunes, and leave The Sean Ryan Show a review. We read every review that comes through, and we really appreciate the support. Thank you. Let's get back to the show. All right, Chris, we're back from the break. We're going to lighten it up a little bit. But I do, man, thank you for toughing it out with that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And just from our discussion downstairs, I'm glad that was therapeutic for you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
But let's move into, we covered a little bit of kind of what it was like getting out, I think, at the very beginning, actually. But I did want to, you know, ask about, I mean, when did you tell your wife about that stuff?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I'll tell you offline. But Chris, I want to get into, I want to get into your story and let's do, I know we have a lot of rabbit holes to go down and I want to hit every one of them. So, but let's start at childhood. Where did you grow up?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I mean, it's, do you think you'll watch it with them?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah. Have they ever heard any of this? No.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I love these, man. It's like a legacy piece, you know? Your family will watch this for generations. Yeah. It's really... It's really cool. And it's... I don't know. It's just... I think for a lot of the guys that come in here that do a life story like that, and they get vulnerable and deep and open doors that don't... rarely get opened, I mean... I just, I'm thankful to be able to do it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And I just, man, it's just, it's important, man. I always wonder what it's like, you know, to watch something like this as a family when it's about you. And, but, but. What are... You know, what was it like for you to get home? Because you decided to leave because of your sons. Yeah. And your wife. And so how did that reintegration go?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah. I didn't know that.
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I think a big hurdle for a lot of people too, not just guys getting out as limitations. And, uh, you know, I don't believe there are limitations anymore. I used to think there were limitations and then. And then I realized when you do find your passion, there's literally no fucking limitations. The only limitations there are are the limitations that you put on yourself.
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And what I notice is that most people look for the limitations as an excuse to not excel and succeed. Not even realizing that they're fucking doing it. Yeah.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah, yeah. You know, and usually we go pretty in-depth on the transition, but it got so heavy there, I think we need to pull out of... pull out of the darkness, but I do want to ask you another thing. And I know you already said it and I feel the same way, but you know, with everything that you've been through and everything you've experienced and, and
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
everything that you thought the SEAL teams was going to be, you've been through the transition. We've both lost. I've lost more people than I can count to suicide, way more to suicide than I have in combat.
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And, you know, with everything that you know now, and your sons are going to look at your career eventually, if they haven't already, and they're going to probably want to do something like that to impress you. What, Would you want your kids, your sons, in the SEAL teams?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And most importantly, you are a father to two sons and a husband. And I hope we talk a lot about fatherhood, too. I'd love to. So... I got a Patreon account. Those are our top supporters of the Sean Ryan Show. A lot of them have been here since the very beginning when I was doing this in my attic. And one of the things I do is I give them the opportunity to ask each guest a question.
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You got into some, sounds like you got into some interesting contract work.
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What's the extraterrestrial stuff?
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What are they seeing? Anything in particular?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I don't think so either. With the AI thing, I just interviewed, do you know who Andrew Huberman is? Yeah. By chance, I just interviewed him two days ago. Oh, that's awesome. And I asked him if he knew anything. Super cool guy. And like, way cool. And no, I was asking him about Neuralink. I was like, do you know, because he's a neuroscientist, and I was like, do you know anything about Neuralink?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And so do you know that this, do you know that's going to help blind people see? That's incredible. So here's how, I'm going to totally fuck this up, and I apologize. Or layman's trying to explain it.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Here's how I describe it. But so basically, whatever. They implant something to your brain. eye and it goes to a chip and then the chip goes to your brain or something and so basically it's a it's a what did he call it he said it's um oh it's a digital he gives a digital
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signal to the chip and then the chip turns it into an electrical signal that goes to the brain and and just people are starting to be able to see like shapes and different shades of of gray yeah that it will eventually be just like what me and you are sitting here looking at yeah and um and it got into this discussion and i was like i said so he started going on and that
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It will soon be possible that you can kind of like stimulate different sections of the brain when it comes to touch and all the senses. And so I asked him, I said, so are you telling me that it's possible to project 100% false reality into somebody's brain? And I'm not even realizing if we can experience touch, vision, taste, everything, emotion, you know, through those fucking chips.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
That could be... That could mean that we're in a simulation... Right now. Right now. And that simulation is a simulation. That's right.
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It's never ending. And...
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Do you think we have a collective consciousness? Yeah. Or is it specific to the individual?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Do you think UFOs, extraterrestrials, could be some kind of a projection of a collective consciousness?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
That's an interesting perspective I've not thought of.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah. You know, I don't know. I love thinking about this shit. You know, I mean, we could go on all day about this and it'll turn into a whole other episode. But let's get to... Let's get to... Ice cream. Where did the passion for ice cream come from?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Dude. Tim, you gotta try this shit. This is amazing. You want some?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Tim, you can't block the cameras. This is going on. This is going on. What is that? Everything bagel?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Whoa. Yeah. Dude, it tastes just like it. It's like identical.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I love these stories, man. So you literally started this out of your garage, and now I've seen pictures of your place. It looks beautiful.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
It looks like the Nicest ice cream store I've ever seen in my entire life. But it's not even a joke. I'm being serious. We'll put overlay photos up right now while we're talking. But I love these stories, man. I just love organically grown business. It's just pure entrepreneurship, creativity, and you develop something out of thin air. It's amazing.
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But what do you think your hangups are going to be?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Don't forget to put Tennessee on that list.
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Where are you guys going to be in, I mean, where do you see this developing into? Do you think you'll franchise or are you going to keep it?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Well, there's going to be potentially millions of people listening to this or watching. Is there anything you want to throw out into the world that you might need to help accelerate your business or anything at all? I'm just curious. Yeah. You never know who's listening, man. Yeah. You never know.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Right on, man. Well, I mean, I got to hand it to you, dude. You're creative. You're branding. You're creative. You're page. Like, it's just everything. You're marketing. It's all top notch. And the ice cream is a level above all of that. So at least stuff that I've tasted. So, I mean, I think you're going to be very successful. And I hope you are. Thank you. You already are.
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But... Now it's soft enough. Well, Chris... winding up the show here, but I know you had a specific ending that you wanted to end with.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
That was awesome. Thank you. And, uh... Damn, Chris. That was, uh... That was a hell of an interview, man. Been through a lot, and... Yeah, I had a good time. Yeah, that's good. And, uh... I just gotta, like... To see you pull through all that, I mean, that's a miracle, man. And I just want to say it was an honor to interview you and keep an eye out for those signals.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And man, you had some really, really good questions come up. So I picked two of them. First one is from a fellow SOF guy, and his name's Paul. So, after almost 30 years on active duty, 20 years in SOF, I honestly don't know how I'll handle working in a civilian workforce.
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I don't think much about that, but I mean, actually I do. My little brother has a stepson and he does, he's a, fucking amazing dad and uh I see him doing all that stuff you know with he's that's his biological son and I commend him all the time man you are changing that kid's life for the better and like I don't know if I could ever rise to that occasion.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
But I want to go back. What about your other sister? Is she biological?
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Can you tell us three things that surprised you, maybe that you simply did not expect about your transition back into the world and how you handled those things?
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What kind of work? I know what you're talking about, but a lot of people aren't going to know what you're talking about. So what kind of work are you talking about?
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When did you realize that you didn't really know who you were?
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I would say we encourage addictions.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I think that comes, look, maybe things have changed. I remember being shamed. For not drinking. Because I don't want to drink. I remember being told, if you don't drink, we're not going to trust you. I remember being handed sleeping pills and Adderall and opiates and all the shit. You know what I mean? I think that addiction is very much encouraged within the teams. It's just under the radar.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah, it's a secret code thing. And, you know, they'll blast you for those addictions and they'll punish you for those addictions.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And then they'll go and do the exact same fucking thing.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
If you... Have you thought about how the culture changes?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Oh, that's great to hear. So they are making steps.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Right on. Yeah, I feel like it has to be attraction rather than promotion. Yeah. You can't be shoving it down people's throat. You just have to get solid... Solid guys that the rest look up to to just be the example without promoting it. Just be. People start following suit.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And, you know, we had a conversation on the phone about a operation you were on and sounds like it was maybe, probably, definitely one of the most significant events of your life. And that really impacted. me as well, the way you described it. And I actually, I was hoping you wouldn't get pissed at me, but I brought it up in the Jordan Peterson podcast. And because it was,
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I can't even count how many different places I lived in. Yeah. Would you consider that trauma?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I never thought about the constant validation because you have to reestablish yourself every time you go to a new school.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
That's fucking crazy, man. I got the exact same shit. They called me a chink all the time. I'm like, I'm fucking Japanese, fuck off. Yeah, yeah, these words. Like, thanks, thank you for that.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You know what I think, man? After interviewing, I don't know how many of us types, but having gone through it myself and talking to gents like you, I think what happens is you change as a human. And it's almost like you're under a fucking spell when you're in a unit like that.
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I mean, I know you probably don't want to talk about this, but I'm going to, but the hate that comes from the community, I mean, that's not, when you're out, you know, that's not like normal, you know, to have those type of feelings. And it's just a glimpse into like how, how dark it can be in the community.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And when you, and then when you're in it with the, you know, with the depression and the anxiety and the like, just all this shit, you know what I mean? And when you come out, if you make it out, unfortunately we have to say it like that because so many of our friends are killing themselves. It's like, it's like this transition to morph back into yourself, what you were,
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Before we go into your career as an operator, I want to rewind. And you had said something, you'd said something about when you found out that your stepdad wasn't your real dad. How did you, what was that conversation like?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You know, it's a, it's a dilemma that I have not explored on the show before. And so I'm, I'm, I'm very curious and I think there's a lot of good pieces of advice that could come out of this for kids and, and stepdads, you know? And so, I mean, It sounds like you regret, you know, all the times that you kind of threw that in your dad's face. Absolutely. About not being your biological dad.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
I mean, what do you have to say to kids? Because, I mean, divorce is higher than ever now. Divorce is higher. Especially in our own community. Yeah, it's so common.
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What do you have to say to kids that are in that situation?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
who you truly are, what you're supposed to be. And I think for the guys that do make it back and find their way back to themselves of what they were before they went in, it's a stronger, I don't even want to say hardened, because if you find yourself, a lot of that falls away, that hardness. And that's what I think it is.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
So. Makes a lot of sense. What about, what about, and I know, you know, the roles are kind of reversed, but you know, how would your, how would your dad react when you would, when you would say those things?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
How would he react when you would say that? I mean, as a kid. How would he react? Yeah.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
That's what I'm talking about too. What I'm asking is how would your stepdad react when you would throw it in his face that he wasn't your biological father?
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Of course, let's take a break. And then, uh, when we come back, we'll get into your military career. I know everybody out there has to be just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source.
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And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind blowing. And so I've asked her if she would contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
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The only other thing that's going to be in there besides the Intel brief is if we have a new product or something like that. But like I said, it's a free CIA intelligence brief. Sign up. Link's in the description or in the comments. We'll see you in the newsletter. All right, Chris, we're back from the break. We're getting into your military career.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
9-11 just happened, and you went to the recruiter?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Who were you... This is just strange because we have a lot of similarities. And that's the only reason I made it through was validation for my dad and from my dad. But who were you seeking validation from?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You read The Warrior Elite, too.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Which is a pretty descriptive book.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Oh shit, it was an accident.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You were thinking about a family going into the SEAL teams?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Well, you were really looking ahead. I wasn't looking that far ahead. I still am. So you go to Team 10. What year is this, roughly?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Chris Fetis, welcome to the show, man. Thank you for having me. It's an honor to have you here. It's an honor to be here, really. I've been waiting a long time for this, man. A really long time. And we got a lot to cover. I think it's going to be a really heavy episode. And I think it's going to impact thousands, if not millions of lives. And so I'm really excited about this and
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Winchester means out of ammunition for the civilians listening. And could you describe what a JTAC is?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah. Let's talk about your, let's just talk about what it was like for you on your first kinetic operation.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
very real, very heavy, and I pray for you a lot. But anyways, it's gonna be a fantastic interview, and once again, man, I'm honored to have you here.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
So they fucking land, open the hatch. The co-pilot gets out. This dude climbs in there with some shit stuck in his leg? And then he clips in and sits on the wing. And he sat on the wing? Yeah.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
One, something tells me that you're going to hear from those guys after this. And two, riding on the wing of an Apache out of battle, that's got to be like riding a fucking unicorn with wings out of battle. Like, what? Yeah. But, wow. How did, I'm curious, how did you deal with the loss? How did the team deal with the loss?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Wow. How long was it after that operation that you guys went back out?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Anything else significant on that deployment that you want to talk about?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
That stuff scares the hell out of me.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Every night. I've not heard that one, but it makes a hell of a lot of sense. Damn. Well, Chris, where I was going with this is I just want to ask you the difference. You know, I want to ask you the difference of what it feels like to kill via communication with an Apache or a C-130 or whatever versus pulling the trigger.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
You know, with the Israel stuff, it's extremely complicated, you know, but there are, I don't know if you know this, but I have some friends that were there and they, one of which I'm pretty sure we both know probably very well, but they were actually going to, flood those tunnels. Did you know about this?
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
They were going to pump some massive, like, ship pump. They were going to Not shit, ship, like S-H-I-P. Ship pump would suck. Yeah, that would have been better. But they were going to flood all those tunnels and drown those Hamas guys. That would be more of a... They wouldn't do it. They wouldn't do it. Why wouldn't they do it? I don't know.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Do you know how many of those bad guys that would have drowned out? I can imagine it must be like an ant farm down there. Would have been perfect targeting.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
And they didn't do it. And sometimes that makes me wonder, you know, like why wouldn't you do that? Sometimes it's such a simple plan too.
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
environment affects leaders decision making on what they do or not we've seen it we see it every time you know vietnam and you know touchy touchy touchy subject and uh complicated war as if any any war is not complicated but but um So you come back to the States.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
All good, all good. I thought maybe somebody would hear it and be like, He's talking about Chris. But everybody starts with an introduction. Chris Fetish, you're a former Navy SEAL and member of SEAL Team Six, officially known as Naval Special Warfare Development Group, NSWDG. You were deployed around the world to fight America's enemies and defend freedom.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
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Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
So you guys were together for the duration of your career?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Going on 13 years. Nice. Congrats. Congratulations. Thank you. Not too many people make it out of the teams without a divorce. It's hard. You know, it's hard.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Did you have kids when you were in the teams, or did you wait till after?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Yeah. So they lived through some of it too.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
How long did you guys date before you got married?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Nice. Well, we haven't got to it yet, but I'm sure you and your wife have been through a whole slew of downward spirals and all the things that come with being in the teams. But you made it. And so I want to ask you, what do you think the secret to a successful marriage is?
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Great advice. Well, Chris, we'll take a break. When we come back, we'll get into your time at Dev Group. All right. Perfect. Exclusive merch and more. Join us and become a patron starting at just $5 a month by visiting patreon.com slash vigilance elite. That's patreon.com slash vigilance elite. All right, Chris, we're back from the break.
Shawn Ryan Show
#156 Chris Fettes - A SEAL Team 6 Sniper’s Worst Nightmare
Just met your wife and got your backstory with her, at least how you guys met. And so now we're moving into your journey over to Development Group.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Do you think you put your family in danger? Yeah, I definitely put them in danger. There's no doubt about that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I know everybody out there has to be just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source. It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter. Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign super bad. She's made two different appearances here on The Sean Ryan Show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind blowing. And so I've asked her if she would contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So it's gonna be all things terrorists, how terrorists are coming up through the southern border, how they're entering the country, how they're traveling, what these different terrorist organizations throughout the world are up to. And here's the best part, the newsletter is actually free. We're not gonna spam you. It's about one newsletter a week, maybe two if we release two shows.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
The only other thing that's going to be in there besides the Intel brief is if we have a new product or something like that. But like I said, it's a free CIA intelligence brief. Sign up. Link's in the description or in the comments. We'll see you in the newsletter. All right, Ben, we're back from the break. So we are at... Aaron? Aaron, yep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So hold on. Let me recap because we had about an hour break there for lunch. So you moved in Christmas time. Yes. Now it's February. Aaron takes off. You did not start drinking again. What happened? Why'd you leave? So actually I left.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Did you ever have infidelity with her? No.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Well, hold on. How did you handle that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Did you still love her before you moved back in?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
She birthed me. Yeah, like 100%? Looked like a little uncertainty there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
When you went back, you said you spent a lot of time with your kids.
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#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I mean, was there a lot of relationship you had to rebuild trust and the fact that you're going to be there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I mean, you were gone for, I think you said, 10 months.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Long story, but about, I think it's been about two years now, had basically had God like slap me in the face in Sedona. And I won't get into it cause we'll be here all day, but like no shit. He just like showed up three times back to back to back in my life. And then I came home and I was telling, I had called this guy, Eddie Penny, who's a friend of mine.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Actually, I don't know how it would land. I mean, you guys are divorced. Well, we're not divorced yet. We're not divorced yet. I mean, there's a lot of history there. There is a lot of history. I could see it being a relief. Well... I mean, there's got to be a lot of weight being your spouse through that time. And I make terrible decisions around her.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Many veterans struggle to find purpose after service, but you've channeled your warrior spirit into fighting one of society's darkest battles, human and narcotics trafficking. Can you take us back to the moment when you knew this was your mission? What was the turning point that made you and Jessica commit your lives to transform former drug houses into recovery homes and safe havens?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So, couple questions before we get into the sleeping debacle here. Why'd you cry when he tried to kiss you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
You're a former addict too? Yes. How long have you been sober?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
What did you see in Ben that made you fall in love with him? Were you aware of his past?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Is there a certain level of comfortability knowing that the person that you're falling in love with is also an addict?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I mean, the reason I'm asking, I didn't, I mean, I'm not... My addictions weren't like these. But, you know, my wife is going to be 16 years sober this year. That's awesome. And we kind of talked about my coke addiction, drinking, benzos, opiates, all that shit. When I met her, I'd found out, you know, that she was sober because she wouldn't have a drink at dinner. And I remember the first...
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I remember when it hit me, I had asked her, I said, I hate it when people ask me what my hobbies are because I don't have any fucking hobbies other than work, drugs, booze, and women. And I just asked her, how did she find what her new hobbies were? And she kind of went on and told me, you know, like, well, that's a tough question. And, and, uh, it takes some time and, and she was so transparent.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I just knew what we had was real and that I didn't, I didn't have to hide anything. I could be fully transparent with somebody. And that's probably the first time in my life I could do that. Is that, uh, that's kind of how it works.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So what happened when you found out he was sleeping with Erin still?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
You guys obviously seem very happy today and you're very successful in what you guys are doing together. But, I mean, weren't you worried about, you know, with his history?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Weren't you worried about not just being hurt more, but subjecting your daughter to this? How old was your daughter?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
What about your own addictions? I mean... Sober for less than a year at this point?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I mean, my best friend died of heroin. Worked with him. I was still working with him. I've talked about him a bunch of times on this show, but...
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
he could be very manipulative and was an extremely intelligent person and i've been around a lot of addiction um you know injectables all all the stuff and it seems like the worse they get the more manipulative they get and so when you found him drinking when you found him lying about who he's sleeping with there's more than one i mean
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I'm sure you're manipulative too, you know, at least in your past. And so, I mean, do you guys realize how... Do you even realize that you're manipulating people? Or has it just come...
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Were you concerned that he was manipulating you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So there was more after the NyQuil. There was more after the NyQuil.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
All right. So now we get into the weeds here. So I want to do a life story on you, talk about childhood all the way up to what you're doing nowadays, all the pitfalls and the dark times. I mean, that's kind of, that's my specialty here, you know, and so where did you grow up?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
as a sales rep back in like... Hold on. Yep. We're moving too fast. How many brothers and sisters did you have? Just one. Just one? Are you guys close?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Wow. I kick booze. It'll be three years and this Valentine's Day.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Yeah, I've kicked a lot of addictions too. Cocaine, benzos, opiates. I had no idea. Yeah, yeah. So you get it. Oh, yeah, I get it. And then booze was the last one.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
We worked together in the SEAL teams very early on. And then we reconnected through the show. And when he came on, It's like the whole dynamic of my show kind of changed. His journey to faith and how he found Christ was just astounding and sent waves throughout the listenership of the show. And after he came on, it was like every person that came on the show talked about
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Until the dope entered the picture. Yeah, me too. Then I moved to Columbia, and that's when the coke came in. God, I'd be dead. I almost did die a couple times. Yeah, yeah, me too. Cocaine was involved. So I get a lot of flack about having a bar in here because we talk a lot about sobriety.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
If you watched any of the interviews, you'll see that a lot of the guys that I bring on struggle with that and then kicked it. But does that bother you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
To have it sitting right there. I agree completely. And be able to overcome it. Yeah. And I know this interview isn't about me, but there's just some things I want to share because I think they'll relate to you a lot. When I kicked cocaine, I kept my last dime bag for years. Just... That's next level. To overpower it. I kept it in a drawer. And I even... I mean, I even moved here with it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Like, I kicked it. Wow. I kicked cocaine in Florida, finally. And I had a bunch of bags. But I kept one of them. And, like, I just... It was just, like... I would look at it every day for years, like wake up, hold it, look at that dime bag of Coke. And it just like, for me, it was like, I'm going to fucking beat you today again. And when we moved, I brought it up here with me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And then I eventually like, you know what I wanted to do is I wanted to frame it. And I'm serious. I wanted to frame it and put it in the studio.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
To show, like, there it is. That's the last – I beat that motherfucker.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
How old were you when you were catching alligators?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Are there a lot of the same people down there that you were dealing with?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And say what? What's your opening line?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And they know that. They know that. How do they figure out it's you helping them?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I would imagine. So, I mean, how do you, like how do you even, We just had a conversation a couple hours ago about having your identity wrapped up in your occupation.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
You have to make human connection, and that's why. So you're saying you have to establish human connection.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I know my team's getting ready to go down there and do that with you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
No, I mean, we've talked a lot about that subject here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
How old were you when you went to California?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
jesus or their belief in christ or you know what i mean something like that every single one for the longest time i think it was over a year and uh you know i started putting it together and i was like man and i released eddie's episode on christmas and then i have my own experience in sedona where um i'd done psychedelics to to you know get over some stuff we can get into that later but but uh it kind of like
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
That's fucking amazing, man. It's keeping me sober. I'll bet it is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And you and Jess are some amazing people, man. I appreciate that, brother. I do. That is astounding what you guys are doing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Well, Ben, I'm blown away, man. That is what you've been through, what you put yourself through with Jess, your kids. I mean, are your kids involved?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
That's pretty amazing, too. Pretty amazing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Man, I'm proud to know you, dude. Likewise, brother. That is, I love it. Is there anything my audience can do?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
We'll link it all in the description. And man, just God bless you. God bless Jess, your kids, everybody you're working with, all the people you're saving. I mean, lots and lots of love, man. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Uh-uh. Well, let's keep it in. Be a little encore. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Well, how did psychedelics change your life?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I didn't write a fucking medical journal publication at age 13. Damn, dude. That's a hell of a story. Wow. Yeah, Scott wasn't fucking around.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Well, when I made this. I wanted it to be like a super comfortable environment.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
There's no equipment in the shots, nothing in your face, you know. And I think, well, I don't think. I know I credit to my therapist, man. I did three years twice a week.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I appreciate that, but I'll take it as a compliment, but... No, I've not done that. I'm in a good place, man. I can tell. I don't need to rock the boat. You just sound content. I envy you. I got a great team. You do. Great family. I don't doubt. I'm good. I'm sorry. God is good, man. Yes, he is. You got it made. I love it. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
It didn't, psychedelics didn't like reignite my belief in Christ or anything like that, but it made me realize there's something more out there. And so I was searching all kinds of stuff, looking at fucking crystals and you name it, man. I was like trying to figure it out. And then Sedona happened. Like, long story short, this guy read my mind from front to back. Like, read my mind.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Man, we got a lot of parallels already. Same. Same here. I didn't go to rehab and I didn't get into drugs, but I got into alcohol, I think, seventh or eighth grade. Yeah, same here. Moved around all over the place. The longest time I've ever spent somewhere is seven years.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Until now. Until now. How long have you been here? Seven years. But, yeah, we used to, I used to find bums and pick them up. And have him go buy the booze for me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Yeah. Yeah. Real smart as a kid. Without a driver's license. But, wow. You had mentioned, I want to retrace a couple things here. You had mentioned Boy Scouts got weird in California.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
But you didn't have any... Nothing happened to you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
We never went back. Right on. Never went back. Yeah, I was also diagnosed ADHD, Ritalin, Adderall in fourth grade. Damn. Yeah, fourth grade now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So it sounds like you were like a prodigy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Are you serious? Yeah. And you did this at 13?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
How did you get – let's go through that. How did you get in touch with a doc at Harvard? My dad.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Every thought in my head, he articulated right to my face. Had never seen him before, nothing. And then two more things happened right after that. And came home, called Eddie to tell him about it. And... He was talking about guardian angels and all this other stuff. And then I called this IT guy that used to work for me, also a good friend, and kind of a spiritual type mentor in my new journey.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So I'm at this rehab place in California, and I have- Hold on, hold on. Let's go back. Okay. I want to talk about the medical, the paper that you wrote. Oh, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Damn. I mean, what was your parents' reaction when you get published at 13?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
How did you find out that it got published?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And those two had talked about the exact same thing back to back. They don't know each other, also about guardian angels. I thought we were talking about email blasts when I called. His name was Adam. His name is Adam. And came home from lunch after that. This was like a super powerful experience for me. This whole timeline from Sedona.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And I called Eddie because I wanted to talk to him about what had happened. And he's also a mentor of mine with this stuff. Got back in my truck to go to work. Looked at the clock, 4.44. Looked at the miles left to empty, 4.44. Four hours and 44 minutes after I had the conversation with Adam, because that call was scheduled at noon, Got to the studio, got with my head of social media.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Damn, so through all that, you still graduated with honors and got a full ride scholarship.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I was like, hey, what does 444 mean? This just happened to me. We looked it up. It said, your guardian angel wants you to know that he's watching over you. And like I said, the conversation four hours and 44 minutes before that was about your guardian angel knows that you're knew you before you were ever even born and all this other stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And so then I started like seeing that number everywhere, like everywhere. Oh yeah. 444 comments, 444 likes, 444 on the clock. It was just everywhere. And now, like I've really, through my journey, are you Christian? Absolutely. Through my journey, and my whole team's really wrapped up in this, way better versed in this than I am.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I don't remember. You don't remember? I don't remember. I had a lot of blackouts. When did it dawn on you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I mean, there's a lot of kids, you know, that are doing, there's a lot of women that have done that. Yeah. That probably feel a sense of regret. What would your advice be?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And some of the guys you met downstairs, like Darren, I mean, he knows. He grew up as a Jehovah's Witness, escaped all of that, but knows the Bible like the back of his hand. So he's been a mentor of mine. my old head of production, Elijah, grew up Baptist.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
All right, Ben, we're back from the break. Just got through some heavy stuff. Sounds like we were right about at, I think you lost your scholarship.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So all these guys who I never really, I can't say I didn't pay attention to them, but not in that aspect, have really helped answer a lot of questions that I have. And any time I read something out of the Bible, they're always there to help me. And through my journey, I've really leaned into gut instinct. And I think that's where it's at. That's the Holy Spirit. Yes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I can relate to you on this, too. The only reason I made it through Bud's and became a SEAL is because I wanted to impress my dad, and he never did anything like that, ever. But what is it? I mean, do you think it's being the oldest child? Like you feel that pressure that you always need to impress your parents?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
No, I mean, I was going to say, I mean... Looking back, do you think that you even wanted to join the Army, let alone infantry, going into a combat role? Or was that just to impress your dad? No, I did want it. You did want it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So now when I'm making tough decisions or I want to know if I'm doing the right thing with the show or whatever it is, man, a lot of it has to do with the show. Like, you know, we get... get some pretty crazy interviews and like for example the last one was um the last one that really kind of threw me off, and I was like, am I, like, should I be doing this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I went to Romania and interviewed Colleen Georgescu about some corruption that's going on there, and I was like, man, I don't know, like, am I doing the right thing here? My gut tells me yes, but then you get in your head, and, like, I'll start seeing the numbers, man. They'll just start popping up everywhere right in front of me, and I... I don't think I know.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
For me, when I see that number or sequence, you know, 222-444-777, whatever it is, I know that that's like, yeah, Sean.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Your gut's right. God winks. I'm giving you the confirmation that you need to press forward with this. And even then, man, I remember I did, on the way to Romania... We had a layover, I think, in New York. And we had just released another super controversial interview with Sam Shoemade. And everybody's calling me. Oh, you're a CIA asset. All the comments on that were hilarious. Dude.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I don't remember how she got back home. Do you talk to your parents about any of this stuff and try to fill in the blanks? Some, yeah, some, definitely.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
But I was like, man, I really... Like, that email was real. We got the email. We checked. And anyways, and it turned out FBI came out and said... Yeah, the email they said on the podcast. Not the Sean Ryan show, but the email that's going around that was on the podcast was legitimate. And that came out right before that layover.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
The same one you were pissed off about that you had to leave to go to California? One of the things we've been wanting to start on Patreon is deep dives into the guests. We found Ben and Jess's story so inspiring that we actually created a mini doc out of what they're doing right now. It's over on Patreon. You guys can go check it out.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I've been wanting to do this for a long time and we finally have the team. to be able to go and produce these things thanks to Patreon. I've talked about this on almost every show. I thank our patrons. Without you guys, none of this would be possible. I'm so excited to bring this to you guys. I think you're gonna love it. I know you're gonna love it. And Ben, his story is so awesome.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
flipping the trap houses into halfway houses. It's an amazing mini documentary on what they're doing right now. Like I said, we found this story so inspiring. We're going to start doing this with more and more guests that we have on The Sean Ryan Show. Head over to Patreon right now. You can view the whole documentary.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And so I tweeted out on X, the truth is like a lion, set it free, and it'll defend itself. Right after I sent that tweet, this woman walks around the corner and she's got this huge lion head, like this sparkly lion head on her shirt. And I was just like... You can't, like, there it is, man. Like, you're on, Sean, just lean into your gut. You're on the right path.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So she knew what she was getting into. Why? I mean, you're saying this is a – A good church girl. Yeah. She— Were you a project? What was this? She was convinced from the time we met that we were meant to be together.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Quit with the bullshit noise outside. Get out of your head. Like, just lean into the gut instinct. And so, anyways, now you come in here and you got a hat, ATF444. So I know this is going to be a really good interview. I hope so. Very powerful. And I know it's going to change a lot of lives. So, yeah. Once again, here it is. But what is the ATF 444 to you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Had there ever been any more discussion about the abortion?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So you and your mom have not spoken about the abortion since it's happened, still to this day? To this day.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I'm not going to disagree with that. I've talked about it several times on here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Yeah, we just had a conversation about this last night on our Patreon live chat. It was with a firefighter. And, you know, I think, I don't think, I know. I mean, being a SEAL is something I did. Contracting for the agency is something I did. Being a firefighter is something you did. Being a cop is something you did. But, you know, being a combat vet is something you did.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
It doesn't define who the fuck you are. That's not you. That's something you did. And so many of us, me included, you know, I did it. You wrap that up into your identity.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I think they think they can't do anything else. I don't think it's just the victim mentality. There is definitely the victim mentality. I see it all the time. You see it all the time. I think there's a lot of commonalities with the stuff that go into that, but probably with trafficking victims as well, I'm not, I don't have as much insight into that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
But, you know, you get, because it's not just a job, you know, it's a lifestyle, it's a culture, it's a 24-7, 365 job.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And then when you wrap your identity up into that and you allow it to become part of you
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Exactly. And people get wrapped up in it. They can't set that down and go, this is something I did. Now it's time to move on. The war's over. You're too old to go back. It's done. So you can't keep living like you're living, like you're going back. Or going to fight another fire, or going to solve another crime, or going to fight another crime. You've got to treat it just like any other life.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
I think a lot of the same with trafficking victims. That's a lifestyle. That is a lifestyle of sex, parties, all that kind of stuff. You just can't carry that with you. And people think it's impossible. A lot of people think it's, you know, I'll never, I don't, you know, how are these skills going to transfer over? They're not going to fucking transfer over.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
New interests. And, I mean, look, me coming out of the SEAL teams or me coming out of contracting for the CIA, I sure as shit didn't think I'd be sitting here podcasting. But, you know, and that's what I did. You know, I went into tactics and then I didn't like teaching tactics. I just didn't.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
It was the thing I did, and then I threw a bunch of, tried a bunch of different things, you know, and I didn't like this, didn't like this. I kind of like this. Let me try it again. Let me try it again. And then. It changes, man. You have to be willing to put that shit behind you and think of it as, that was a segment of my life. That's not who I am. That's over now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Well, I'll tell you what. I don't know if you looked around in here, but it's like a museum and a lot of guests.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Let's move on to the next thing. And it takes time. You can't just make that decision immediately and go, oh, now I'm going to be... I want to do this. It takes time to figure out who the fuck you are and what you like doing and what new interests are.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And you have to be open to accept those new interests to develop who you're going to become rather than living with who you were or who you thought you were.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And even, even, even back to the first born, you know, impressing the parents thing. I mean, that was, that was a huge burden on me for a long time. And, like, it's just this pressure. And, I mean, it wasn't who I was, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
It's all stuff from guests. This is amazing. So, you know, if you ever do decide to part from that, I'd be honored to frame that in the studio. And, yeah, this is like a museum. But I'm not asking. And, hey, what is the... We got busy down there with the photos. What's that A-10 barrel you brought?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Right after your grandpa's death. Yep. Let's just walk through that decision-making process.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
You'll have to connect me with him. I'll do that. I'll interview him. You need to. And then that's going to get framed and put in the new studio. We're building a new studio.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Man, thank you. It's pretty cool. That'll look good in here, too. Yes, it will. But, well, Ben, we got a lot to talk about today, and I'm expecting this. Well, I shouldn't say I'm expecting, but I got a feeling that this is going to be a very heavy, heartfelt interview, and I'm really excited to dive in here. I am, too. Everybody starts with an introduction. So...
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Ben Owen, you're an infantry veteran, a father of eight children, a graduate of the University of Alabama, and an American patriot. From Fortune 500 companies to startups, you've excelled in leadership, strategy, raising brand awareness, and sales. When you're not working your day job at Black Rifle Co., not coffee, You spend time in the North Georgia mountains with your kids.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
You're an experienced expert on data intelligence and digital media. You founded Flanders Fields and We Fight Monsters with your wife, Jess, and are dedicated to combating opiate and fentanyl addiction and sex trafficking in the Mid-South. You're a recovering addict with with a tumultuous past including drug arrests and homelessness.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So basically, you created a business model out of the electronics industry and brought that into firearms.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
You've transformed your struggles into a force for good by leveraging experiences from running safe houses during the Afghanistan evacuation to establishing sober living homes in the U.S. by converting dope houses into recovery spaces. You work alongside agencies and street gangs to embody hope in recovery, turning your once Perilous Path into Lifelines for Others. You're a busy man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So you're running five companies. Yeah. You got how many kids? Four kids? I had five at this point. Five kids, a husband, T-ball coach, Cub Scouts. And going to church every Sunday. And going to church every Sunday, had a massive drinking problem.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So when would you fit in the drinking? At night, all the time. Do you think your kids never saw you drunk or they actually never saw you drunk?
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So hold on. You're telling me your kids never saw you drunk. You could converse without slurring. You're basically a high-functioning drunk. Or at the same token, you're telling me that Aaron is begging you to go to rehab because it's getting bad. So these are like... Let me explain it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
You're doing heavy lifting in some of the most tough neighborhoods in America. And once again, man, it really is truly an honor to have you here. I'm really excited about this. It's been a long time coming. And so let's get started. Let's do it. But before we get too in the weeds, a couple of things. Here's my gift to you. Vigilance League gummy bears made here in the USA. They are not healthy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
But this guy's making $600 a day just off you. Just off me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
There's all kinds of poison and food dyes and sugar and all kinds of shit you shouldn't be eating, but they do taste good. Oh, they're delicious. Oh, my God. We'll send you some more when we get restocked. And then, secondly... We have a Patreon account. Patreon, they're our top supporters. It's a subscription account that our viewers and listeners can join.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
ben owen sean ryan welcome to the show man thank you sir i've been really looking forward to this one i have too it's uh it's an absolute honor to be here thank you thank you well it's an honor to have you and uh i love your hat thank you four four four is my number is it oh yeah so explain that to me i've heard four four four is an angel number and i don't know why it is so
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
So the initial, I've never done heroin. The initial high is like the best high you could ever imagine. And then it never happens again.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
Well, I don't know if I'd say that. You drank your gallbladder out.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And we've really built quite the community there. And so a lot of these guys and ladies have been with me since the very beginning. And we started this in the attic, moved to this. Now we're building a studio that's three and a half times bigger than this out in the woods.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
And like with all the equipment upgrades and everything that we've been able to do, I credit Patreon because that's who has been here the whole time. And so one of the things I do is I allow them to, I give them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question. And so this is from Eric Alger. While we may have won this election, the fight to restore our great nation has just begun.
Shawn Ryan Show
#178 Ben Owen - Inside the Life of an Addict
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Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Are you seeing a lot of Chinese... coming into Mexico and kind of setting up shop?
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
How long has this shit been going on with China?
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
When was that, 10 years ago?
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
15 years?
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Is it weird? How do I phrase this? Are you seeing more and more Chinese people? Is it becoming like a common thing to see?
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Wow.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Tons.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
It makes perfect sense. Generationally. And the thing with China is they're fucking extremely effective. No way. At whatever they do. No way.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Yeah. One being they don't fucking play by rules either.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
And China will come in and they'll open a whorehouse immediately to start gathering intelligence because- People are going to go to the fucking whorehouse. They're going to fuck a Chinese hooker. The hooker is going to milk them for information. The information gets to where it needs to go. It happens like that.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Everybody's taking advantage of it.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
How do you cope with all the shit that you've seen? We talked about some of the stuff you've seen. We've talked about the disposing of bodies and some of the gruesome stuff that you've seen the cartel do down there. We covered the fact that you've gone on 2,700 fucking hits.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Well, you know, nine years.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
It helps get through the misery when you're in the middle of it, too.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
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Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
And they had 15 fucking vehicles.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
It worked. It fucking worked. It works when you're in. It works when you're in it. And it makes you effective. But when you're off the bus. When you're out, you're fucked.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Why do you think there were no shots fired?
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Damn.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
It fucking changes you.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
How long did it take for you to realize your mom was fucking right on the money?
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Yeah. I know that feeling. Sorry to hear that, but you know, sounds like she was looking out for you, man. Yeah. You know, but, and sounds like she still is after she passed.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
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Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Less than a year.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Damn.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
Yeah. So kind of wrapping up your career, you talk about kind of being recruited by the cartel. And I kind of wanted to go a little deeper into that. And I would imagine that you were recruited several times or had friends, you had already said that you had friends that had been recruited out of the police or maybe the military and into the cartel.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
How long into your career, into your law enforcement career in Tijuana did it take for it to become real? Where you're like, this isn't a fucking game.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
I know everybody out there has to be just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source. It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter. Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign super bad. She's made two different appearances here on The Sean Ryan Show.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind blowing. And so I've asked her if she would, contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
So it's going to be all things terrorists, how terrorists are coming up through the southern border, how they're entering the country, how they're traveling, what these different terrorist organizations throughout the world are up to. And here's the best part, the newsletter is actually free. We're not going to spam you. It's about one newsletter a week, maybe two if we release two shows.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
The only other thing that's going to be in there besides the Intel brief is if we have a new product or something like that. But like I said, it's a free CIA intelligence brief. Sign up. Link's in the description or in the comments. We'll see you in the newsletter.
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
It sounds like China's taken a major interest in the cartels in Mexico. And I've operated around China overseas several times. And those motherfuckers are just as ruthless, if not more, than some of the cartels. Why is China's interest in Mexico becoming so strong?
Shawn Ryan Show
Peak Points | "I Was Covered in Blood" - Terrifying Moments as a Police Officer
No shit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Throw it on the table. I mean, how many times did they reinvestigate it to change everything? Was it three times? It was more than that at this point. But trust the process?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
These guys were somewhat on your side. Somewhat. Oh, the admirals, yeah. Oh, quite a few went the other way. You said they went two ways.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
And so, yeah, it's good to have you back. Good to be back.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Captain Brad Geary, welcome back. Thanks, Sean. Again. Appreciate you having us again. Yeah, my pleasure, my pleasure. It's good to see you. And Jason. Nice to see you again. Good to see you again. So just a little recap. You guys were on about, what, six, eight months ago? It sounds about right. And so in a nutshell, just real quick snapshot. Basically, big debacle at Bud's.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Would you say the process against you, you're talking about upping the charges almost?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
So I still don't... Do we ever find out why? Why were they targeting you? We never really came to that conclusion. Why were they hiding this shit? Because, I mean, they could have just... Why didn't they just say this guy was on PEDS? That was the original plan. It's big. Maybe not a big, but there's a little operation going on here within this BUDS class.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
A bunch of candidates are on performance-enhancing drugs. This guy dies. All the symptoms are here. This is what we found in the box or the cooler in his car. Here's the text messages. Case solved. That's what happened. It'd be super nice. Why did they waste all this extra energy in hide shit and all this other stuff to pin it to you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
What's FOIA stand for?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
It's huge. Man, your show was a pivot point. This is awesome. Yeah. Changed the whole thing. Everything. I love this. This will be hanging here in the studio along with all the other stuff from guests. I appreciate it, man. This is an honor. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
So what are they going to do? Just reinvestigate it over and over until they get it like they did the last time?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
All right, so let's get into it. Yeah. So you came on, what, I guess it was about, what, six months ago? A little longer?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
And got a lot of attention. Yeah. Real fast. What happened?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
It's impossible to win. It's impossible to win unless you get loud. The system is totally, it is completely corrupt. It's impossible to win unless you happen to have a way to get the word out in front of millions of people and get the attention of lawmakers.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Dude, there is no master orchestrator. Is it you guys, the attorneys? We just flat-footed it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
So what was it that kind of turned the tides then? Was it all the congressmen and senators? It was.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Jason, what would the repercussions have been had they dug their feet in? had they dug their feet in. And not dropped the charges with a letter like that, with all those signatures.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
I mean, we go public, right? What does that do? I mean, it's public humiliation. Is that a career ender? Do you have any recourse for that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
And I think people... They bury who are there. I mean, look. Yeah, right. I've got this shit all over my wall over here. We've got the Blackwater guys. They hid the drone evidence. We've got the Eddie Gallagher charges. We've got your stuff. Just the other day, I did this interview with Josh Mass. Did you guys hear about that? I haven't heard that one yet. Adopted an Al-Qaeda baby.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Now they're trying to... Oh, that's the Marine?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
It's just like, what are we doing here? Right. Is that a thing? I mean... All the pardons come out right before the administration changed.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
A ton of them. With just blanket cardens. Yeah. I mean, is there any justice here anymore? Seriously, I'm not fucking around.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Epstein list, P. Diddy list. Bad.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Yeah. I mean... So the case got dismissed, but now they're coming after you again. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
You'd think. Who's the lead on this? Chief of Naval Personnel. How long until Pete fires him?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Chief of Naval Personnel, what's his name?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
So they're basically trying to take your retirement. Well, they're trying to demote me in retirement, which is basically it's taken a large chunk of your retirement.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Junior, to be specific. Junior. Cheeseman Junior. Nice. Yeah. Anything else? Are they coming at you for anything else? No, I mean— Have you heard from— Has there been any response from Kyle Mullen's family?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
How do you think that this case affected— naval special warfare, the sentiment, the morale, the guys that are actually out there doing the job, not the admiral cheesemans. Yeah, I can tell you how it affected them. How did it affect retention? How did it affect the sentiment? How did it affect morale? I mean, you've got to have a lot.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
I would assume that maybe I should make assumptions, but if I was still in and I was a young operator still gung-ho about being a SEAL and going and doing the job, it would cause a complete distrust in the entire institution. And I would... I don't serve that kind of shit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
So what does that look like? What is that gap? So you've got a bunch of admirals, and you have massive retention problems, and you got, what, like a— A bunch of E4s? Well, I mean... Like, who's going to fill that gap? That's the problem, right? You have to replenish the force.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
And so... And a lot of these admirals and stuff, they've never even been to combat, so they don't even have any experience. So who's going to... Who's going to fill in the gap here and teach the younger generation how to fight a war when these guys have been sitting behind a fucking desk their entire career?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
We just labeled the cartels terrorist organizations. I would think people, I would think guys would be excited to stay in this exciting time. We're potentially on the cusp of World War III, you know, TBD, to see how that plays out. We've got China tapping at the door.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
You know, with Taiwan. I mean, there's a lot of shit going on, and we have major retention problems, not only in the U.S. military, but in naval special warfare, which,
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Kyle Mullins, Bud's candidate, died in training, died of what we believe to be performance-enhancing drugs, a lot of evidence, and basically the U.S. Navy kept reinvestigating this until the performance-enhancing drugs disappeared, and then they basically... pended on you, the commanding officer of Naval Special Warfare Training Center, or whatever they're calling it today.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
I didn't even know that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
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#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
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Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
What is that generation like in combat and in the community?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Man. That's cool to hear. Yeah, that's something I want to dive into a little bit. Breakfast, we were talking about. They are innovators. Yeah. And they're fast innovators. And it sounds like the military in general is having a hell of a time. It's impossible for them to keep up. Right, right. You were talking about that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
And so it sounds like the SEAL teams need their own science and technology shop.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Have you seen them? Is there anything specific you've seen them invent or innovate that captured your interest? I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Just coming up with this in there. Yeah. So what sparked that mini invention? They just want the technology and the SEAL teams doesn't have it, so they're like, fuck it, we'll just make it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
What would it take to do that, to have an S&T shop set up with funding so they can innovate?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
What was the... I mean, when you came on last time, we had talked about your interactions with different admirals, people that you had considered friends, that you had considered... I mean, you had respect for these guys. Yeah. And then as the Kyle Mullins case kind of unraveled longer... or it just kept unraveling and you started fighting back.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
How many leaders within naval... I mean, is this a... Are a lot of leaders like you, and they're trying to empower these guys, or is there a lot of pushback?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
It was like, I can't remember exactly what the term was. Was it like trust the process or something like that? I mean, did you ever hear from any of those admirals again? It's funny. After you came on the show? Oh yeah, absolutely.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
I know everybody out there has to be just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source. It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter. Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign super bad. She's made two different appearances here on the Sean Ryan Show.
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#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind blowing. And so I've asked her if she would, contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
So it's gonna be all things terrorists, how terrorists are coming up through the southern border, how they're entering the country, how they're traveling, what these different terrorist organizations throughout the world are up to. And here's the best part, the newsletter is actually free. We're not gonna spam you. It's about one newsletter a week, maybe two if we release two shows.
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#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
The only other thing that's going to be in there besides the Intel brief is if we have a new product or something like that. But like I said, it's a free CIA intelligence brief. Sign up. Link's in the description or in the comments. We'll see you in the newsletter.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
What are some of the things you would immediately go after and try to change?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
It seems like these guys are imprisoned by their own power. Does that make sense? Yes. Like they imprison themselves in their own power because they're so scared of losing it. Nothing's more important to them than holding power. We were talking about this at breakfast, right? Mm-hmm. We were having a conversation about Gen Z just... jetting out the door in special operations.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Yeah, yeah, me and Eric Ramey, that's right. And so I wanted to bring you back on. We got a lot of exposure. You came on, Jason, you came on, and your other interning. Yep, Davis Yelms from the Stanford Warriors Foundation. Yep, we're still with him as well, yeah. Got a lot of exposure. I know my personal friend and attorney, Tim Parlatori, jumped on board.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
It's like, man, you guys are going to have to make some changes. If you want to stay on that soapbox, great, but there's not going to be anybody to look up on that soapbox because they're all jetting. You're going to be a leader of nobody. Yeah, for sure. So is that what happens? They get imprisoned by their own hunger of power?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Last thing. When do you guys expect to hear? When do you think this is going to be done? When are you going to be able to retire and move on with your career as a voice actor?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Man, I hope so.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
I hope so.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Well, thanks again for coming on. And, man, I just... I know you're going to get through this. Yeah, yeah. It's just... It's enraging, you know, what the U.S. Navy's doing and Admiral Cheeseman. Cheeseman Jr. Yeah, it's just... It makes no sense, but... I know you guys will get through it and, you know, hopefully one day we'll see some repercussions for this kind of bullshit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Right. Yeah. Jeez. So one guy, one guy wrote you a letter of recommendation and said, I told you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
We got a ton of congressmen, senators, a lot of attention. And the case was ultimately dismissed. But I know they're still coming at you for some stuff. And I just kind of wanted to do an update with you. You interviewed with Secretary Head Seth and Director Gabbard. And I want to talk to you about what that is and if you do have a place in the new administration.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Manipulation. Manipulation. Did the people at the embassy have the after-actions reports from the operation?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
And to the point where... I just don't... I don't... I don't understand why... Why? Why were they... Why would they not allow you to take custody? What was the... What was the big... Or what is the big... Why? What the fuck?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
I'm not talking, the embassy. Like, what is, they were pissed that you went over their head?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
When did they hand off the baby to the? Talabelder?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Don't worry. You're going to pass your drug test.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Let's take a quick break. Exclusive merch and more. Join us and become a patron starting at just $5 a month by visiting patreon.com slash Vigilance Elite. That's patreon.com slash Vigilance Elite. All right, we're back from the break. We had just covered that the baby got turned over to a Pashto man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
And so... If we covered this, forgive me, but how did she get turned over to somebody without a DNA test?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So what did they just pick some random guy off the street and go, hey, here's an infant?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
I mean, how did that feel? You guys, we just spoke downstairs. You had a crib at the house. You guys were preparing for another baby to enter the family.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
What did they say?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
You already had adoption papers. Yeah, we did. So they're giving your child away to an anonymous person in Kandahar?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
This is the fucking U.S. government kidnapping your child and handing it to some random fucking person In Afghanistan.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
It was a crazy situation. How the fuck do they do that? How the fuck do they take... They give you adoption papers and then take your fucking kid and give it to some fucking stranger on the streets of Afghanistan. Are you fucking hearing this, people? Like, this is your government. This is your fucking government.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
It's definitely going to make the cut. Live for an audience of one. Man, that is... Man, that's fitting. That's awesome. Thank you. Yeah, this is going to look awesome. We're actually building a new studio. Okay. Good timing. Yeah, this will be perfect in there. But we really do appreciate you giving us an opportunity. Man, thank you. This means a lot. Thank you. All right, so... Here we go.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
You have an email where they're requesting a DNA test? Absolutely.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So like a 45-day-old?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Okay. A five-month-old baby is gone for a year and a half?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
To some random man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
The peace deal between us and the Taliban, is that what you're talking about? Mm-hmm. Why does the Taliban give a shit about a baby?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So tell me a little bit, just tell me a little bit about both of your guys' backgrounds. Yeah, let's start with you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
You want to throw his name out there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
This speaks perfect English.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
I hate that excuse.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
I think that's like the Nazi excuse. Following orders.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Where does the following orders end?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
We were talking about earlier, you're familiar with the Blackwater case. They deleted the drone footage that proved their innocence. Yeah. Like a five-minute segment of drone footage. That's what we've been saying for years. Like they killed a bunch of people in Nassau Square back in 2007. Oh, guess what this has to do with? A fucking peace deal.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Or not a peace deal, the status of forces agreement that kept us in Iraq. Deleted the fucking drone footage. It's like a five-minute segment. You see the thing roll up. then the gunfight happens, they delete that five-minute segment, and they're like, oh, we routinely delete this because we need to save memory. It's like everything before that and everything after.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Like, if you were saving memory, then you would have just kept the actual gunfight, which is the important part, and deleted all the other shit. But the... I fucking hate our government, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
You are married to Stephanie, who is a graduate of Thomas Edison State University and has master's degrees from Liberty University and the Academy of Art, University of San Francisco, California. Most importantly, you invest your time raising your five children, ages 13, 10, 6, 5, and 4. And I think you guys said downstairs you've been married for 18 years? Years. Congratulations.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Joshua and Stephanie Mast, welcome to the show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Yeah, we've heard this shit before too.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
I hope it's changing. I think this is how it works. This shit said it happened.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Who's that? These attorneys, these mega law firms. I think they've done everything they can to shut that down. Satanic? I have no idea what they're like. What is this shit?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Did you grow up in Florida?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Interesting. Interesting. Did you guys grow up together?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
You guys have known each other since you were 11?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Right on, right on. So when did you guys decide to get married?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Yeah. Nice. Perfect.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
And so what is the home life like now with five kids?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
And it's because of the love you have for one of your children that you're here with us today. So before we move on, a couple caveats and disclaimers. Before we begin, we need to make some important clarifications. Josh, can I call you Josh or do you prefer Joshua? Sure, it's fine. You're an active duty Marine Corps officer.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Four boys, one girl. It's as crazy as you would imagine.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So where did you guys reunite with Sparrow? We found them at Ramstein.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
You're a stay-at-home mom.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
There had to be thousands of people there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
What are they like doing? Are they in sports? Are they involved? Are they homeschooled? They are.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Now they're all homeschooled?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
You'd have to find them each day? Yeah. So hold on. I got to hear some good news. Yeah. I mean, what was the first time you found her? Oh, that was— Were you guys together?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
And so we had a lot of... How long were you guys in Ramstein before you took her home?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So what was it like coming home with her?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Do they like homeschool?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
How long did it take her to... Smile? To warm up, to smile?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Cool. Yes. That's awesome. So you're the hangout.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
You guys are the hangout. Yes. I think every parent strives, at least all the good ones, strive to be the hangout. They want to be the hangout.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Mm-hmm. Yeah, we're thinking about, we're going to do the homeschool thing. We talk about it all the time. We don't know what we're getting into. But if you guys can do it with five, then we could do it with two. Absolutely. What could go wrong? Yeah. Right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
I don't know how much of the lie is... I mean, can there be any retribution for them just stealing your child and giving them to the Pashtun guy? I honestly... I mean, is there a... I don't know.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Yeah. Do you guys do the co-op thing at all?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
He's enthusiastic. How long have you guys been homeschooling?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
I think everybody listening to this knows exactly what it is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So what is the most challenging thing about homeschooling?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
You can clarify if you are speaking on, can you please clarify if you are speaking on behalf of the Marine Corps, Special Operations Command, SOCOM, or the Department of Defense?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
And you can get sued for saying the name of the law firm.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So the mega law firm owns the court. I can't say terrorist.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Isn't this public knowledge? I mean, isn't this like, can't you look it up who the law firm is?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Still. He's good. Right on. Are you involved in this, too?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
And so how much are you guys traveling for the litigation?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Yeah. Two years ago? Right. Do you think any of this changes now that the Biden administration is gone?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Has anything happened since... the Trump administration has taken over? Has there been any good things, any bad things with your particular case? Or is it kind of on ice until this next thing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So this basically needs to get to Pete Hegsteth and Marco Rubio.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Well— I'll get this to everybody I know. I appreciate it. I know a lot of people. I don't know what they'll do with it. Sometimes they do stuff. Sometimes they don't. But fuck, man. I just got to say, man, it's an honor to meet you guys. It's a privilege for us. We appreciate it. Like, whoa.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
And you had mentioned you brought them into homeschool because of security concerns. What kind of security concerns are you guys facing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
I mean, I'm with you, though. I just... I don't see you losing this one. Too many things have fallen into place over the years, just like you had said, and I think God's got a bigger purpose for this than some fucking mega law firm and corrupt DOJ.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
you're welcome thank you thank you for coming and um i think a lot of people are going to see this so i hope just um i wish you guys the best of luck and god bless what you're doing man thank you and you know can i thank a couple people really quick yeah absolutely here um to uh to the task force medical afghanistan commander thank you sir for setting the example
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Oh, yeah, we've seen it. I had to hire a whole security team because of this shit. Because the withdrawal thing, you know what I mean? Or not the withdrawal thing, sorry, the funding. The U.S., I don't know, they decided to fund the Taliban $48, $87 million a week.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Well, the doubt is on your side. So I'll be praying for you guys, too. We appreciate it. God bless. Thanks.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Man, you guys have one hell of a story here and very complicated. Doing the best I can. We're going to cover all of it. It's probably going to be a long show, but... You know, even though nobody knows what we're about to talk about just yet, I just want to say, like, man, you guys are, like, such honorable people doing what you're doing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Okay. What are the limitations on what you both can say in this interview due to classification, operational security, and or ongoing legal matters?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Yeah. Let's move into your – what were you doing as an attorney in the Marine Corps? Okay. You mentioned targeting in your – Yeah, so I –
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Wow, interesting. And so what unit were you attached with in Afghanistan?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
And the incident is Operation Starfish, correct?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Okay. Okay. All right. Let's move into the operation, your attachment to it. Let's start right there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
from kuwait wow yeah so how did you get attached to this raid so what was it that what was it that you were doing so you got involved so i i can tell you exactly where i was so we were
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Wow. Wow. So- Did you run this by your wife at all? I was actually concerned about that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Okay. And I think you just answered this, but I don't want to miss anything. So can you comment on any of the ongoing legal cases? No, we're not going to. We'll focus on the Board of Inquiry and, like I said, some government misconduct along the way. Perfect.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
All right, so I just want to give the audience, this is super complicated what's going on here, so I want to give a quick snapshot on what we're about to cover. So basically, there was an al-Qaeda raid conducted by the Rangers. A hundred-plus enemy killed in action.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So did you—what do we call your daughter?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
There was a baby found on target with a fractured skull, fractured left femur, and second-degree burns on her face and neck from her mother blowing herself up running at a Ranger. Partner force tried to murder the baby because of her foreign origin. The Rangers brought the baby back to the camp. That means back to base where they were.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Was this the photo of her wrapped up in a box?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Exactly. We're putting this photo up on screen right now, by the way, so if you're listening, you can see it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
The Ranger who saved her killed Amir Omar, the AQIS Amir, on the next mission, took a bullet to the neck, and ended up being treated next to her in the hospital. And now we'll hear about the long story and still incomplete journey Basically, you guys have adopted her, and there seems to be a lot of custody issues going on in the courts, and that's what we're here to talk about today.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So in these interrogations, did they get the information that they were from Turkmenistan? Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Well, yeah. So how long was the baby girl sitting in a Home Depot box wrapped up?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So, once again, thank you guys for being here. A couple of things before we get into the weeds here. I have a Patreon account. They're our top supporters, turned into quite the community, and they've been here with me since the beginning. They're why I'm here and also why you guys are here. So one of the things I do is I offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
I mean, have you ever heard of this happening? Have you ever heard of— No. I've never heard of a unit bringing back a baby.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Because, I mean, you think... It's just such a unique situation is what I'm saying. Like, I've never brought a baby back. I've never... I have tons of friends...
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Tier one, tier two units, never brought a baby back. Never heard of this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Before I just, we'll get into that. I just want to clear my, clear out my questions. So, how were you the one, I mean, you said all these people had volunteered. You talked to Stephanie about it. when did it get narrowed down to, You're the one. You're the one that's going to take care of it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
And so this is from Eric Auger. Major Mast, beyond the legal and ethical questions, this case has likely put immense strain on your personal life, your marriage, and your career in the military. What has this battle cost you personally in ways that aren't in the headlines, and how have you reconciled those sacrifices with your sense of duty and faith? That's a great question. It's pretty deep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
I mean, they used these kids to kill people, too. I mean, when I was there, they would— They would fill up their bicycle tires with explosives and have them right up to the gate or right up to a convoy or right up to personnel. The kid doesn't even know that the bicycle tires have explosives in them. They'd blow the kid up just to kill an American. So that's who we're dealing with here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Absolutely. This is who you're in a custody battle with. Absolutely. I mean, not to mention, you know, there's videos of this stuff during the Afghanistan withdrawal when that fiasco happened. We had mothers who were trying to throw their babies over razor wire. Babies are getting hung up, caught in razor wire, dangling because they didn't make it over the razor wire.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
You have babies being killed right outside the walls of the airport where U.S. controls it. U.S. didn't do shit about it. You know what I mean? And these people are trying to... They're hanging on the side of an airplane as it's taking off. I mean, because of Taliban control, because they know what's coming. And no mother is going to throw her baby... try to throw her baby over razor wire.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
I mean, there was babies everywhere just hanging from razor wire that didn't make it over. I mean, that's who we're dealing with. So I want everybody to know that's who you're in a custody battle with. That mega law firms are interfering with who want...
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Well, I mean, but they do now because that shit hit national news. I mean— Tyler Andrew Vargas painted a very good picture of what that looked like during the Afghan withdrawal. And the footage is everywhere. We'll roll it right here. I mean, just so everybody can see what that was like.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Like, oh, like it's a conspiracy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Who the fuck? Fights this shit. Like, who are these attorneys? So. Spineless fucks. Well, I think that they. Like, seriously, dude? You're going to take a fucking five-year-old girl and send her back to that shit for your fucking paycheck? Well. Fuck you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
And so when did you – we got a little sidetracked there. Now I'm angry. But I just – I'll never – I just – Attorneys, man. Sorry, but I just cannot imagine what it's like on the others. How the fuck do they sleep at night? I just don't get it. So at what point did you find out she's going to be in your care?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
And I'm really excited to do this and to get this out into the world. So thank you guys for what you're doing, and thank you for being here. We really appreciate it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So he didn't take you seriously right off the bat?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So was this the initial conversation?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So you got this to J.D. Vance?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Katie Vance was a Marine.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So now I realize why, yeah, now I realize it's going to take a minute to get to when you found the moment. Yeah, well, that was the moment. So I don't want to brush anything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Jeez. Let's take a quick break, and when we get back, we'll talk about the on target, Andrew's on target, and what Sparrow went through. I know everybody out there has to be just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world. And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter. Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign super bad. She's made two different appearances here on The Sean Ryan Show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind blowing. And so I've asked her if she would contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So it's gonna be all things terrorists, how terrorists are coming up through the southern border, how they're entering the country, how they're traveling, what these different terrorist organizations throughout the world are up to. And here's the best part, the newsletter is actually free. We're not gonna spam you. It's about one newsletter a week, maybe two if we release two shows.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
The only other thing that's going to be in there besides the Intel brief is if we have a new product or something like that. But like I said, it's a free CIA intelligence brief. Sign up. Link's in the description or in the comments. We'll see you in the newsletter. All right, Josh, Stephanie, we're back from the break.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
And so we want to talk about the actions on the objective, the night of the raid, the night of 5 September, 2019. We already know there was a hundred plus Al-Qaeda killed that night. The Rangers did the hit. Pick it up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
So she was the first?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
What I meant was the guy that was holding Sparrow was a human shield. Did they kill him right off the bat?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Jeez. So she was probably, what, four weeks old?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
And how many injuries did she have? I mean, just going through all those blasts alone.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
You mentioned some kind of toxic...
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Awesome. Awesome. Well, everybody gets an introduction, so... Major Joshua and Stephanie Mast. Major Joshua Mast, you're a United States Marine Judge Advocate General with a law degree from Liberty University and currently assigned as the Assistant Operations Officer, Marine Raider Support Group, Marine Special Forces Operation Command.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
yeah you know as far as the the faith aspect of the the question there i mean i know you both have a lot of fear that this might not turn out you know in in you or your daughter's favor but you know the conversation we had right before the camera started rolling is that you both realize there is a bigger picture and then a lot of this stuff
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
When did you first meet her?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
They just came up with this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
Wow. We're thankful for that. Wow. And then before we move on, I want to make a couple things clear at the very beginning. And so this is a custody battle between you guys and who? Well... So in reality, I think... Is it the Taliban? Yes, I think... So this is a custody battle between... I don't want to overcomplicate anything yet. Don't go all attorney on me. No, absolutely.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
But this is a custody battle between you guys and the Taliban, a terrorist organization. And so I just want to set the tone here, the weight of this interview. That way, right off the bat, people understand the importance of it. So we'll go from there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
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#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
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#174 Joshua Mast - U.S. Marine's Message to President Donald Trump
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
That's pretty incredible. That's pretty incredible. Yeah, I saw your remark in the Hegseth hearing. How did that go again?
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
It'll be great to see somebody that doesn't just space out in the middle of a press conference and not know where the hell they are. That helps. A lot of people are looking forward to that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, we're going to dive into this, but as of right now, just looked it up, we got 25 dead. It sounds like from the fire, about 40,000 acres have been burned to the ground. Thousands and thousands of structures gone. And, you know, it sounds like there was a lot of incompetence. Sounds like we saved a lot of fish and snails, but not a lot of people.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
And, you know, I mean, where are all these people going to go? I mean, like you said, this is one of the largest cities in America. Yeah. Where are they going to go?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Well... You know, Trump called this actually on Joe Rogan's podcast. He talked, what was the fish? The smelt. The smelt fish. Said that they weren't pulling water from there because they wanted to save the smelt fish. I mean, a lot of incompetencies. We'll get into those. But what were your initial thoughts when you saw the fire?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
A 40% pay cut? Yeah. When did that happen?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Oh, that's amazing. But quick introduction here. So Senator Tim Sheehy, U.S. Senator from Montana and former Navy SEAL officer, like I said, second ever special operations operator to enter the Senate, completed numerous deployments around the world. You're a family man. Your wife, Carmen, is a former U.S. Marine officer.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
You both are raising four children, an entrepreneur, founder and former CEO of Bridger Aerospace and Ascent Vision Technologies. and owner and ranch hand at Little Belt Cattle Company. And most importantly for what we're going to talk about, because we'll be talking about the LA wildfires, you're an aviator and water bomber pilot.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
How many people have been, do you have any idea how many people are now displaced?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
How did this, you know, me and you had a, we had a phone conversation a couple days ago when we put the interview together, the timeline, Herman. I asked you, How did this start? Could this have been, you know, we talk a lot about terrorism on the show. Could it be, could it be terrorism? I mean, you said yourself, go ahead, you know, what Al Qaeda said.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So we'll talk about, you know, your expertise and what you know about this disaster that's going on in California right now. But before we move into the nitty-gritty stuff, I've got a Patreon. Patreon's our subscription account. They've been with us since the beginning. They're our top supporters. And so one thing I offer them is I offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So, I mean, do we, you know, kind of back to the, thank you for that, that explains a lot on how these spread and that's, I mean, two acres a second, that's moving. You know,
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Yeah, you know, I mean, the same thing's kind of happening on the East Coast, especially in Florida with hurricanes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
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Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
And that's not done going up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Some of them can't even get insured, depending on where the flood zones are.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Yeah, so, I mean, is it kind of moving into insurance? I wanted to go back. I mean, I do believe there is. We'll hit on the insurance in a minute, but I believe there is proof.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
I just got camped. So they put a... A fish or lettuce or the spotted owl or whatever the hell it was, they put that above human life. And I think – And that's a federal law. That's not a California law.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Tim Sheehy, welcome to the show. Thanks, Sean. Good to be here. It's good to have you. This is the latest interview I've ever done here at the Midnight Hour, but I really appreciate you coming down. I know you're a busy guy, and especially, and congratulations on your Senate.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
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Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Is that true that there was no water?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So who's... You know, at the very beginning of this interview, we talked about holding government accountable.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So for the L.A. wildfires, who needs to be held accountable? Is it Gavin Newsom? Is it – there's a lot of talk about the three – it sounds like the three top – people in charge of the fire departments in LA or DEI types. I mean, who needs to be held accountable there? Or is it the federal government? All of the above.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
I don't know. I mean, shit, Gavin Newsom got recalled and they put him right back in there. Yes. But, you know, I mean, I don't know why this is. I don't, maybe they, I don't, I just, I can't wrap my head around it. California just doesn't make any damn sense to me. But, I mean, so let's talk about the... But accountability, it's important.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
I think what I'm kind of leaning towards is let's just go down the chain of command here, or let's go down the chain. Who at the federal government needs to be held accountable? How can... All these places that are having these wildfires, Hawaii, Texas, New Jersey, California, Washington, Oregon, how do they hold the federal government accountable and who and why? Why? Yep.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So there needs to be some type of an appointee. Because how it works... In the new administration, some kind of director of wildfire.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So there needs to be some type of a committee or an appointee that is created to... 100%.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So how do, I mean, how do, how do we start this? I mean, you know, you just started the conversation and, you know, hopefully it spreads, but I mean, how, how does this, how does this, I mean, how, how would that be implemented? Is that, would that be implemented by the president? Would that be implemented by Congress and then going to the Senate? I mean.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So we need a committee or an appointee with bilateral communication from all these other organizations and agencies. Yeah. Let's move to the state level, California. Governor Newsom, is he held accountable? Does he need to be held accountable? Does he have, I mean, you know, we talk about, you know, Why does this guy keep getting voted in? I mean, I think we need to educate on the discrepancies.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Yes. If there are any that he needs to be held accountable for.
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
And they didn't. What about the reservoirs? Reservoirs. Could Gavin Newsom have overridden that and said, no, pull from that reservoir right there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Should he have allocated more funds to...
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
How about the, you know, we talked about arson earlier. Had there been, I mean, California, I believe, was, they were a big defund the police state, correct? And so had there been more police, maybe they could have, you know, mitigated some of the arson, some of the stuff that we saw going on. People posting videos on X. Do you think that had anything to do with any of this as well?
Shawn Ryan Show
#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Yeah, you brought up holding the government accountable, and we try to do that here as much as we possibly can. And sometimes we get a little bit of success. Most of the time it falls on deaf ears. But when I ask my audience to hold the government accountable, I'll give you an example. They always want to know, how do we do that?
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
They cut their legs right out from out there.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Anything else at the state level that could have gone different?
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Let's move to the local level. Fire chiefs would What do we need to hold them accountable for?
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Yeah, yeah. Do you see, I mean, do you see any similarities between the L.A. fires and what happened in Maui? Absolutely.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
And a lot of people, we've lost, you know, it's no secret, America's lost a lot of confidence in the voting system. And, you know, I'll give you an example. You know about the Taliban funding stuff. Oh, yeah.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
What about, you know, the – You know, a little bit different switching gears here, but we're seeing a lot of, I mean, from where I think the rent, you know, we're kind of moving into relief here. And we're seeing a lot of price gouging with rents in California. We have thousands and thousands of people that are now displaced. Their homes have burned to the ground.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
And of course, now you see rent prices going up. People can't afford to rent anything now. I mean, how do we mitigate that?
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
These people are freezing to death right now.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
What about, you know, just natural disaster relief? Or just... any disaster relief. I mean, you know, we see billions and billions of dollars going to Ukraine, going to Israel. What about our people? You know, I mean, like I said, People are freezing to death in North Carolina that lost their homes in that hurricane. Maui, still a disaster. Now L.A., a disaster.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
I mean, we're just, it just, I mean, I think everybody sees it. They see all of our money, what appears to be all of our money, getting shipped. The Taliban, you know, we're funding the Taliban upwards of a billion dollars a year.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
ukraine like i said all these different we're just we're exporting all of our money overseas to help problems that maybe we should or should not be involved in but i mean why are we not prioritizing american people and in rebuilding these cities and Getting these people out of the freezing cold that lost their home six months ago. How do we fix that?
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Everybody in the country is frustrated about that.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
It's just good for everything. It creates business. It creates jobs. It's just pouring money back into our own economy to rebuild what was destroyed. And I just cannot wrap my head, rather than just shipping it off and not seeing it ever again, You know, how does that conversation start? Where does it start?
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Are you going to be bringing some of this stuff up in the Senate?
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Man, that's amazing to hear. Thank you.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
But it took a long time to get there. It took a long time. Tim Burchett out of Knoxville knocked it out of the park. He did not give up. It was bill after bill after bill that he wrote up.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
And that was before the L.A. fires. Good for you. Good for you. It would be great to see some proactivity in this country instead of reactivity. I mean, we're killing ourselves here. We're killing ourselves here. And, you know, it's horrible. I hate... I just hate seeing all these people displaced and people dying. And it doesn't seem like much, if any, relief is going to them.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
And... Well, Senator, did we miss anything? Is there anything else you want to cover?
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
and um but we had a petition and that petition went up to i think last time i checked it's at like 400 000 signatures and uh we couldn't get congressman mccall to do anything and um you know you would think at the time i think i brought it up and when i interviewed president trump you know it was 300 and something thousand back then but i mean it's just people get so frustrated because they don't they don't really know
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
But for you, Will, I know we all have big aspirations for you. So, Senator Sheehy, thanks for coming on. And I hope to see you again and keep up the good fight. God bless. Let's get her done.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
They don't really know how to hold the government accountable. And so I would love to hear your suggestions on what can people do. Does it actually do anything when people write a congressman's office or a senator's office and they get hundreds, maybe thousands of letters demanding change?
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
So it's an honor to do it. Yeah. A lot of people are stepping up. It's good to see. And then, you know, our conversation downstairs. So you're only the second ever Special Operations veteran to enter into the Senate.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
Good point. You know, I was going to ask you too, you know, I mean, at what level do you think people should get involved? Should it be at the city, local level, state level, federal level? I mean, it seems to me like if a lot more people would have gotten involved in LA, we probably wouldn't be seeing the mess that we're seeing right now. But I would love to hear your thoughts on that as well.
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
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#160 Tim Sheehy - Former Navy SEAL & Aerial Firefighter Breaks Down the Los Angeles Wildfires
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Yeah, I mean, it's my understanding, isn't it Chinese law that anything that gets developed in that country that could help their military has to be shared?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Yeah, so the reason I bring it up, we were talking about the government deleting evidence. And so, you know, kind of the downfall of Blackwater was that Nassau Square incident. I think it was back in 2007 when they tried those guys.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
I was just going to say, I want to get that, have you sign it, and I'm going to frame it.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Yeah, they made it out to be like a big, like a bunch of Blackwater casualties.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Let's talk about Anderle in the IVAS program. The IVAS program.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
So they deleted the drone footage. Really?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Yeah, a lot of people don't know. And so there was a Green Beret unit that was actually taking contact just... I can't remember if it was like a couple kilometers or a couple thousand meters away, but... But basically, when they had that drone on station, so they brought it over, and they deleted, there's like a five-minute, ten-minute segment of drone footage where you actually see the vehicle.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
And then the very specific, like,
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
portion of the drone footage that showed the actual gunfight was deleted you can see where the vehicle rolled up and then it cuts out and then it goes away and you can even see where you know where the radiator fluid and stuff had been had been leaking out from the vehicle getting shot up and in court they're like well where is this drone footage and they said oh we routinely we routinely delete drone footage uh just to save memory and they're like
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
What does it look like?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
They're all talking to each other.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
So you just happened to just delete the— Just that. Just the 10-minute segment that shows the actual gunfight and everything before and everything after is still there. And those guys wound up getting pardoned by Trump, but they sent one to prison for life, three for 35 years.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Fucking amazing, by the way.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
But would you be able to – would there be any way to do, let's say, something like the Bin Laden raid? Yeah. Would there be a way to integrate some type of facial recognition? So if it was a capture-kill mission or potentially a hostage rescue, would – Would there be a way to basically identify, hey, that's the hostage.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
That stuff can get tricky depending on how they're dressed, what their ethnicity is.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Yeah, the guys in the square.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
There could be other things. Let me give you another example. Maybe there's a CIA asset that's on the ground or on the target at the time of the raid. Or you have the bad guy's phone, you know, and it's just constantly tracking his phone or the CIA asset has some type of a beacon that appears into the imagery that you're looking at. So it just helps with the... That will definitely happen.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
I don't think they did. I mean, those guys ran out of money. One of the attorneys that was on the case was kind of doing a pro bono by the end of it.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Maybe I'm misspeaking here.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
I'm talking about, okay, let's say it's... I don't know. It's the target's doctor who is reporting to the agency, and he's the one that has the go switch that's saying, he's fucking here. Yep. Now's the time to do the hit. I'm on target. Yep. I'm in the same room as him. Yep. Don't fucking shoot me. I look just like everybody else that's here.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
You're saying some kind of marker so that we know that it's... Yes.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
I don't mean they couldn't be wearing the helmet because they're undercover.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Yeah, basically, I'm just looking at an identifier, something to identify him.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
It would be easy to get an asset, a beacon. You could implant something inside of them. You could give them a water bottle that has something in it. I don't know.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Yeah. I mean, it's not even at the highest level. Then we brought in this guy, Captain Brad Geary. He was the commanding officer of Naval Special Warfare Training Center, which is BUDS. And a couple of years ago, they had that BUDS candidate who died in training. So it turns out he likely died from performance-enhancing drugs that he was sourcing from out of the country.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
I mean, that's the world I come from.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
I'd love to help develop it.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
In fact, he had a cooler in his car with all this shit. And they made it sound like the training was too hard and it was all Captain Geary's fault. And they reinvestigated it three different – they basically just – they reinvestigated it, I believe, three times.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
You probably don't want it to be able to... It'd take about five seconds and it's in cartels' hands. Exactly.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
And they just kept doing it until they got the performance-enhancing drugs out of the investigation. And once those were gone – Through some procedural error or we weren't allowed to have that – Then they pinned his ass to the wall, and we wound up exposing it on the show. Now the case has been totally dismissed, and it looks like he's going to get his retirement and his rank.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Could you imagine if you were to say to Facebook?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
This wouldn't be happening.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Oh yeah, I've seen it.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
100%.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Designer of Oculus Rift, a virtual reality head-mounted display, and founder of Oculus VR, which was acquired by Facebook for over $2 billion. Attended Golden West College and Long Beach City College at the age of 14 and studied at California State University, Long Beach, before dropping out to build Oculus VR.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Man, I love that you just said that. And I got to be honest, I had a lot more that I want to talk with you, but I think this is the perfect place to end this. Well, it's an important one.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
I'm not against it, but it's got to be done right. And if that played a part in it.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
All right, so I got a Patreon account. It's a subscription account. There are top supporters who've been with us since the beginning, and we built... We built quite the community over there, the behind-the-scenes segment that you did. So one of the things I do is I offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question. This is from Mel.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
My 15-year-old son thinks you are amazing and inspiring. My son is really into electronics and building things, but not as much into coding. What advice would you give him that might help him and other kids like him when he's thinking about when he's thinking about building skills early to do epic things like you with his life?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
That seems to be the thing with all of you tech innovators as you drop out of school and
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Right on, right on. Well, I'm sure he's going to get a lot out of that. So, got a little gift for you. Oh, boy. Yeah, yeah. Those are Vigilance League guy bears. A little something for the flight home. Now, there's no, like, caffeine in these or anything, right? No, no funny business. All right. I mean, there's a bunch of shit that's unhealthy for you, like sugar. So, what's good about these?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Dude, don't ask me about the ingredients. All I know is they taste fucking amazing.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Dude, I was a Game Boy fiend.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
I'm going to frame this one and put it in the studio.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
I will. I will. Thank you. This is awesome.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
I love this stuff, man. I love putting stuff from guests in the studio. You have so many cool things. Most of the stuff in here is all from prior guests and all that's like... deep meaning, at least to me.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
All right, so like I said, we're going to do a life story and then get into all your business ventures. Let's do it. At least some of them. I don't know how many businesses do you have right now.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
You were homeschooled? Yes. Tell me about that. Why were you homeschooled?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Really?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
I think so.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Thank you.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Thank you.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Well, who knows? Maybe one day.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Cool. Known for your unconventional approach, love for gadgets, and belief in using technology to push boundaries, whether for entertainment or national security. Man, I don't even, I mean, we're going to do a life story on you. Fascinating human being.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
I can already tell with what, the 30 minutes that you've been here, just when we were down shooting the thumbnails and shooting the shit back and forth.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
So a couple of off-the-wall things that came up there, down there. So you are... Look, we had a little conspiracy theory talk down there.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
You were talking about Trudeau and Castro, and let's go into that before we get into the weeds here.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
All right.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Damn, that's awesome.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Oh, my God. I bet those people were shitting their pants.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Very cool, very cool. So when you were homeschooled, I mean, How do they keep up with you? How did your mom keep up with you?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
What kind of books?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Right on, right on.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Yeah, yeah. So did you grow up in a middle-class family?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
And you went to, you started college at what age?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
So was that remote or did you actually go?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
How did you make friends? It doesn't sound like you're surrounded by anybody your age. Everybody's older. So a few things.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
And did you complete college?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Oh, thank you. Thank you.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Why were you putting open source information on the internet if you were worried people were going to steal the idea? So a few things.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Well, teach me how to do it. I'd love to be the first one to do that. I'll set it up. I'll set it up. Right on. Yeah, so you're a tech titan, and we had Joe Lonsdale on a couple months ago. Amazing human.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
That is crazy.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Thank you. Thank you. So who's your friend that you had coaxed out of going to school?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Nice.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
How many people were on the team?
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Holy shit. And so how did it pop up? Were you trying to sell the company? How did it pop up on Facebook's radar?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Thank you. Thank you.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
What is a radical Zionist?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Did you have any conversations with Zuckerberg in person?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Wow.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
I can't wait till everything comes out on all this stuff.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
There's going to be two missing boxes and they're going to say, oh, well, it's all... I think a lot of people are worried that the shredders worked overtime before they got in and the digital shredders.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Yeah. Wow. So you leave. Are you involved with any VR now? A little bit.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
It's a great quote. So Andrew all started.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
So were you aware of how it works then with the military industrial complex? Oh, yeah. How did you know that with all the VR stuff you were doing?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Basically, you're talking about Skynet from the Terminator.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Well, I mean, they already, I mean, are you familiar with Blackwater at all?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Thank you.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Very cool. He was a fascinating interviewer. And then you came up and I was like, dude, we've got to get this guy. He's like the Tony Stark, but real.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
So could the Navy SEAL be replaced?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
So we're a long ways out from replacing a tier one assaulter. I think we're a long way out.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
So how does the exoskeleton work?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Holy shit.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
I'm Totally mind-blowing, right? That's... Holy shit. It's a good... How long do you think it'll be before we see exoskeletons on the battlefield?
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
A little contradiction maybe. You had mentioned, first we were saying, no, we're not going to see remote-controlled robots. Now you're saying we might see that before the exoskeleton.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
How do you see that working? You're going to put on a VR headset.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
So this will be... So they'll be controlling these from a totally separate location.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Yeah.
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
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#171 Palmer Luckey - Superhuman Soldiers, AI Missiles and Exoskeletons in Warzones
Man, this is... It's going to be a wild future. Yeah, no shit. Wow. Let's talk about the missiles. Let's talk about it. How do those work? So the way I understand it, you're basically taking away... Missiles that don't need to expend come back and land.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
What did it feel like when you got inducted into the U.S. Special Operations Hall of Honor? I didn't know about it. You didn't know about it?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Did he really?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You're a pioneer in reconnaissance training tactics and recognized for your legendary career that overcame obstacles and broke barriers on and off the battlefield. You are one of the first African-American Marines to serve in the elite force reconnaissance companies and the first to receive a battlefield commission.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Did you want to go to war?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You established the Gary and Dottie Capers Foundation. Yeah, I did. To help kids with special needs.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You did.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Well, I'll tell you what. We'll put the link to the website in the description of this interview. So if anybody wants to donate. Bless your heart.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Were we involved in any conflicts in the year 1956? The U.S.? In the U.S. ?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Oh, I think a lot of people are gonna give a damn about this one, so... You know, it's been a little tough for the old man.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
I'm not important. I'm just a guy doing what I like to do, which is... I'm happy for you. Thank you. I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to be here, too. And I'm happier here. And on that note, Major Capers, I just want to say, once again, it's an honor... Thank you. ...to interview you and to get your story out. And God bless Dottie and Gary.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
God bless you. And I really hope your Silver Star gets upgraded to a Medal of Honor. That'd be nice.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You went to war in 56.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Is 58 when you evacuated Americans from... Lebanon?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Is that the first time you saw combat?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Firsthand?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
How did that feel? Describe that experience.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You are a recipient of numerous awards, including the Silver Star, two Bronze Stars with Valor, three Purple Hearts, and induction into the U.S. Special Operation Command's Commando Hall of Honor. You are the author of Faith Through the Storm, Memoirs of Major James Capers, Jr. You are the subject of the documentary Major Capers, The Legend of Team Broadminded.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
So you popped up on our radar, I think about a couple of weeks ago. And man, I just want to say, I think, I mean, it is a real honor to have you here. You're the first Vietnam veteran to be on the show. And that's something that I've been really looking forward to getting somebody on the show that's served in that war here. And to have you here is just, I'm over the moon about it.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
How long was that battle?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Was it fighting every day?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Well, let's talk about that experience. Yeah. How was the first human you killed? How did that experience go?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
What was it like for you to come home after rescuing Americans in Lebanon during that Civil War? When's the first time you went back home to see your family?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You are a father figure to Team Broadminded, a specialized group of force reconnaissance Marines, and you continue to honor their legacy through annual reunions and your ongoing involvement in special operations community. Welcome to the show.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
When is the first time you went home to your mom, your brothers and your sisters?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
All right. So we've got quite a bit to cover here.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
When did you guys get married?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
But what I'd like to start with is your childhood. So I understand you grew up in South Carolina. Partly.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Well, before we get to First Force Recon, you were married for 50 years.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
So I want to ask you, what is your, in your opinion, what is the secret to a successful marriage?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
How do you stay happily married for 50 years? What's the secret? I loved her so much.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
What'd you do? Did you deserve it?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
What is the chain gang?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Interesting.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Let's go back to 1959. All right. We became the first African-American to join the Marine Corps Special Operations Force Recon. That's what they tell me. That's what they tell you?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
So did you know what Force Recon was when you'd signed up for it?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
How'd you hear about it?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
What was the training like?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
What did it feel like for you to graduate the training?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
And in 1966, was that your first tour to Vietnam? Yeah. And so what did you think when you got orders to go to Vietnam?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
How old were you when you were given to a white family?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Four years old. Do you have any recollection of that?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You enjoyed diving?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You're the only person I know that enjoyed diving in the Coronado Bay.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Have you heard some of the other Marines? Have you heard some of the other Marines we've had on here from force reconnaissance and Marksock?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
The show?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
The show started on Christmas Eve of December 2019.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You see that sword right there? Yeah. I interviewed Don Graves. He was a flamethrower in Iwo Jima. And I interviewed him when he was 98 years old. Oh, great. And he turns 100 years old in May. He's going to be back here. I don't know if he's coming on the show or not, but I'm hoping to have lunch with him at least. But he sent me that sword and took that off a Japanese soldier in Iwo Jima.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
That's pretty good, yeah. Yeah, he's a Marine. And then one of my best friends, Nick Kefalitis, he was a MARSOC Marine. And he was my third episode. Cody Alford, he was also a MARSOC Marine. Honor Man, Honor Man, I think of his sniper class. First, the youngest Marine to ever reach E-8. Fought in the Battle of Fallujah. He's a good friend of mine. We've had a lot of good Marines on here.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Yeah, well, you've got a good show. We've had some candy-ass SEALs, too, though.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Yeah, but... Well, let's get back to you. So you finished the swim. You passed. Yeah. And you guys go to Vietnam.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
How did you like the jungle down in Panama? I did training down there, too.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Let's talk about your first mission after the camp was built. What did that entail?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
How would you set up on the camps? Would you do an L ambush?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
How many guys were you with? How many guys? Yeah, when you went on a, let's talk about your first, would you work primarily at daytime or at night? Both. Both.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Yeah, we'll get to Phu Loc, but I just want to talk about your first, your very first mission in Vietnam. Yeah. What was the briefing?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
So you were working in the fields as a five to six-year-old child?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
How about the first mission on the ground?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
When you said that the body was eaten up, eaten up by what? By sharks. By sharks?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Do you remember the vehicle showing up in the middle of the night at the shack?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
It's such an honor to have you here. We haven't documented this war at all yet. And so this is something that I've been real excited about. And so thank you for making the trip.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Diversions.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
What did your parents tell you? Do you remember?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
When was your first firefight in Vietnam?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Let's talk about the POW rescue mission ordered by President Johnson.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Yeah. You mentioned you were good at killing people with a knife.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Major James Capers, welcome to the show.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Boom, boom.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
How did that make you feel, knowing that they had a bounty on your head?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
How'd they try to kill your wife and your son?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Who was they?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Are these the two people that you killed that were running away? Is that who he's referencing?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You killed two people in Hong Kong.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Who did you kill in Hong Kong?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Is this intelligence?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Is it intelligence services?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
So how was it when you got to Baltimore?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
So I want to get right into it. So I want to do a life story on you. And from what I understand, there's a really good possibility that your silver star might be getting upgraded to Medal of Honor. And I hope this gets to the right people to make that happen. I just want to put that out.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Well, let's move into... There was a downed B-52, correct? That supposedly had a nuclear bomb. B-57.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Were you welcomed in school?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
They didn't have any of those Jim Crow laws?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Did you feel more at home in the jungle?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Then when we come back, we'll just pick up right here. All right. Do you want a water or anything?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You okay? How's it going, Dad?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
I know everybody out there has to be just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source. It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter. Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign super bad. She's made two different appearances here on The Sean Ryan Show.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
How long did it take you to get used to that? That culture change?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind blowing. And so I've asked her if she would, contribute to the newsletter and give us a weekly intelligence brief.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
So it's gonna be all things terrorists, how terrorists are coming up through the southern border, how they're entering the country, how they're traveling, what these different terrorist organizations throughout the world are up to. And here's the best part, the newsletter is actually free. We're not gonna spam you. It's about one newsletter a week, maybe two if we release two shows.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
That's patreon.com slash vigilance elite. All right, Major, you ready to kick it off again?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Thank you. You're welcome. So we're getting ready to get into Foo Lock.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
But before we do, we didn't cover the battlefield commission from sergeant to second lieutenant. So I wanted to ask you how that went.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You know, it sounds like the bureaucrats maybe got in the way of your advancement, but the men that you're actually fighting with on the ground had a tremendous amount of respect for you. Is that fair to say?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
He talked about him earlier. Hmm? He talked about him earlier.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
How did your family integrate? I mean, was there a... Was there a sense of relief being up there? Was everybody happier?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Let's go back to Foe Lock.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You ready for that? Yeah. What was going on there? What was the mission?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
How much time had you spent in Vietnam until then?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
So it was booby trapped, the whole landing zone.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
How old were you when that started?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Seven years old, you started selling newspapers.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Right up front, so everybody listening understands how important this interview is, and we want to be a part of making that happen and documenting your life story. So everybody starts off with an introduction. So here we go. Major James Capers, you are a retired United States Marine Corps officer and true American hero.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
hold him and uh miller got hit everybody was wounded crapo lost a leg and is this food lock hola what what happened first what happened first there sounds like there were three really bad firefights where he lost one marine is that correct
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Your team was ambushed in Phula, correct?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Did you have any hobbies as a kid, or was it just work?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Yeah, we're talking about Fulock.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Was it quiet? Were you in a firefight?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Well, where did God show up? Was it in Bulak? Hmm? Where did God show up?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
I mean, it doesn't sound like the helicopter should have even been able to take off because the first time it couldn't.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Do you think about dying?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You got a silver star for Bullock. Sounds like it's a good possibility it's going to get upgraded to Medal of Honor. What'd you say? It sounds like there's a good possibility that's going to get upgraded to the Medal of Honor.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You kept away from that?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
You know, after Vietnam, you were involved with the CIA in the Cold War.
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
What were you doing?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
Did you carry a weapon as a kid? No. No?
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#180 Major James Capers Jr. - Vietnam Marine Commando Silver Star Recipient
What got you interested in the military?
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
It was a real pleasure to have you here and I hope to see you again.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Roka let me try a pair of these things and I can feel the difference whenever I wear them. I wear them in the evening after the sun goes down. I pretty much start it at dinner and I wear it until bed. And let me tell you, these things work. With so many options in eyewear and wellness products out there, it's a relief to know the glasses I'm wearing help two things I really care about.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Wir haben einen Patreon-Account. Es ist ein Subscriber-Account. Sie sind unsere Top-Supporter. Gut für dich. Sie sind seit Beginn mit uns hier. Fantastisch. Es bleibt wach. Es ist eine Gemeinschaft. Ich würde nicht hier sitzen ohne sie. Und auch nicht ohne dich. Großartig. Eine Sache, die ich ihnen biete, ist, jeder und jede Gast eine Frage zu stellen, die auf dem Show kommt. Absolut.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Diese Frage kommt von Jake Gillian. Given your unique insight into the UAP phenomena and its potential implications for humanity, what do you believe is the single most critical piece of information the public should understand about UAPs right now? And why do you think this information has been withheld for so long?
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Was auch immer du willst. Ja, wir werden das machen. Luis Elizondo, willkommen zum Show.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Ich meine, ich denke, viele Leute denken vielleicht, dass die Deutschen Ja, das haben sie.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Ich meine, ich denke auch, dass wir als Amerikaner ein bisschen ehrgeizig denken, dass wir, dass niemand anderes diese Art von Technologie haben könnte, weil wir so technologisch, wir sind so vorangegangen. Und, du weißt, vielleicht hat es jemand anderes, und sie beweisen es einfach nicht, weil sie nicht spielen wollen, wie die fucking Weltpolizei. Du weißt, wir involvieren uns in alles und...
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Untertitelung. BR 2018 Das war's für heute.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Das bedeutet ein helles Lied. Danke. Aber, wow, danke, dass du das gesagt hast. Ja. Und gleichermaßen. Sincere. Gleichermaßen. Lass uns in die Interview, ja? Also, jeder beginnt mit einer Erklärung hier. Also, ich denke, wir werden hier ein bisschen eine Lebensgeschichte machen. Ich hatte nicht geplant, das zu machen, aber... This sounds super interesting.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Untertitelung. BR 2018
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Lou Elizondo, Lou Elizondo, you're a former U.S. Army Counterintelligence Special Agent and former employee of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. You led a previously covert program within the Department of Defense investigating unidentified aerial phenomenon, UAP.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
You came forward to the public about Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, ATIP, bringing to light what the government knew about these mysterious objects in our skies. Since then, you've worked to educate both the public and policymakers about the potential implications of UAPs for national security, science and human understanding.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
You've been involved with organizations like To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science, aimed at advancing research into these phenomena. You are a fixture in the UAP transparency movement and have appeared in numerous interviews, documentaries and media segments discussing UAPs. We have shared insight from your experience while critiquing the government's approach to transparency on this subject.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Ja, ja. Ich wünschte, wir hätten Rekordungen von den Reaktionen der Leute, statt diese verdammt gezeichneten Berichte, die klingeln müssen.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Ich habe eine Frage für dich. Ich dachte immer nur an das Rekord. Du hast natürlich viel daran beteiligt. Ich weiß, du kannst nicht alles erzählen, aber warum sind es immer diese fucking Berichte? Was ist mit der ersten Interview? Somebody goes out there and does the initial fucking interview. Why don't we have... Where are those recordings? Rather than some bullshit, typed up thing.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Hey, this came from the interviewer. They got passed to the analyst. They got passed to the... Jemanden, der zu jemandem berichtet. Wo sind diese initialen Aufnahmen?
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Welcome to the show.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Das ist so, wie wenn du in die Gerichte gehst. Ich weiß das, weil ich das immer gemacht habe. Aber ich frage mich, wo gehen die hin?
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Hm, hm. Ich meine, du bist ein investigativer Typ, oder? Sie sagten, ich wäre schon da gewesen. Du hast vorhin über Ägypten erwähnt. Es war nur eine Analyse. Was, wenn wir da sind und es eine 747 und eine der fucking Pyramiden gibt? Viele Leute denken, dass die Ägypten, die ältere, was auch immer die Tribe war, oder die Peruvianer, die Easter Island, hatte eine Art...
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
dass sie viel mehr nach vorne gegangen sind als wir, als sie ausgestattet worden sind. Ich meine, sie können noch nicht erklären, wie die Pyramiden gemacht wurden. Sie haben diese Untergrund-Käfen, die Graham Hancock zu Leben gebracht hat. Ich glaube, sie sind in der Türkei, es sind ganze Städte unter dem Untergrund.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Ich meine, ist jemand daran zurückgesehen und versucht, all diese Sachen zusammenzuschneiden? Gute Frage.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Nicht unbedingt. Man, ich werde ihr letzte Name ausdrücken. Diana... Pasulka. Ja, Pasulka. Wir haben sie nicht lange gelesen, aber sie spricht über viele Dinge im Vatikan.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Mit all den Tunneln drinnen?
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
So you're saying these ancient mummies were partying with cocaine? Vorsicht!
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
So there is government officials that are looking back at this stuff.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Usually I wait till the end to ask these kind of questions. Brother, whatever you want. What is this stuff? Is this nuts and bolts? I didn't realize that you were connected to Hal Puthoff. I've talked to Skip Atwater, Joe McMonagle. I've done a handful of these guys. Edwin May, Angela Ford. I did not realize you... Ich weiß nicht, was du weißt, dass du nicht sagen kannst.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
all of these experiencers are experiencing. We got Neuralink coming online probably very soon. I interviewed Andrew Huberman. We had a little bit of a talk about that and how it would technically be possible with Neuralink to create an entire false reality.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
all of your senses, touch, taste, feel, feelings, you know, vision, you know, I mean, that's one of the things Neuralink is going to do, is hopefully help blind see. I mean, is that a possibility? Is that what this could be?
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Then we've got Grush, who's coming out saying that they have crash retrievals, where Ich meine, und alles ist so wütend, wo wir die Non-Human-Biologik zurückgebracht haben. Ist das die Terminologie, die er benutzt hat? Das ist die Terminologie, die wir benutzt haben. Ich meine, das könnte ein Tierkarkus neben einem Flugzeug-Kreis sein.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Ich meine, ich sage nicht, dass das so ist, aber, weißt du, setze ein lustiges Wort hinter es, hinter, weißt du, wie Non-Human-Biologik. Okay, na gut, ist das ein toter Maus? Ich meine, das bedeutet es nicht wirklich.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Du hast erwähnt, es waren drei Bundeskanzler, die in Alaska, Nevada und Hawaii begonnen haben. Das ist interessant, viele UAP-Aktivitäten in Alaska.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Definition of the past.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Prior experience.
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Du wirst dich überraschen, wie viele Mitglieder des Kongresses ihre eigenen Erfahrungen hatten. Der Grund, warum ich die drei Staaten Niederlande mitgebracht habe, ist natürlich viel Aktivität. Alaska, viel Aktivität. Hawaii, ist da viel Aktivität?
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Was machst du mit Dingen wie diesem Mountain? Ich bin sicher, du weißt, worüber ich rede. Was machst du damit?
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#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Ich meine, Joe remote gesehen hat Mars, ich kann mich nicht erinnern, die Jahre. Er ist nicht der Einzige. 2.000 oder 3.000 B.C., die Pyramide. Weißt du, worüber ich rede?
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Ich meine, das Mars-Ding und das Alaska-Ding, es klingt nicht so, als gäbe es da viele Fortschritte dazu.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Ein faszinierendes Thema.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Okay, wir haben ein bisschen auf die Seite geraten. Vielleicht werde ich das letztendlich auf die Seite bringen. Lass uns über deine Einwohnung in der Armee-Intelligenz sprechen und wie du mit AATIP involviert wurdest.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Du hast den Skim Walker Ranch erwähnt. Ich will nichts verlieren. Nein, nein, nein. Hast du mit Brandon etwas gemacht?
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Also...
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Es gab andere Facilitäten. Wow. Ich würde mir vorstellen, dass es das sein würde. Ich versuche schon, Bigelow hier aufzunehmen. Er ist ein elusiver Kerl. In der Eroberation habe ich ihm einen Elevator mitgebracht. Ich habe ihm nichts gesagt. Ich will ihn nicht verletzen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Habt ihr ihn seitdem in Kontakt genommen?
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Wir reden immer von UFOs und UAPs, die mit unserem Nuklear-Arsenal interferieren. Was tun wir, um das zu beheben?
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Nun haben sie das... Ich habe Joe Lonsdale interviewt, Epirus, der Direktor der EMP, eine Waffe, die mehr als 100 Drohnen auf einmal ausführen kann. Ist das etwas, was wir implementieren können?
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
So you were affiliated with it before, when Bigelow owned it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Was macht ihr von diesem Video, dem Witzelblower, den ihr gesehen habt? Ich glaube, es war ein Air Force Special Operations-Mann, der vor kurzem rausgekommen ist. Der Witzelblower, der über die eckige Kraft, die wir gekauft haben, rausgekommen ist. Es gibt ein kleines Video von Night Vision, das wir jetzt auf dem Video überlegen werden. Was macht er davon? Er sagt, es sei ein Alien-Kraft-Retreat.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
What was some of the stuff that you, I mean, what was going on there? Is it similar to what's going on with Skinwalker right now?
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Hast du so etwas vorher gesehen?
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Nein, nein, nein, ich meine das rhetorisch.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Das war's für heute.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Untertitelung des ZDF, 2020
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Vielen Dank.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Why do you think Bob never shared any of the research with Brandon? I've interviewed Brandon, he's a friend of mine now, and he did not... über die vorherige Forschung zu Brandon geben, als er den Ranz gekauft hat.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Was sind die anderen Möglichkeiten, die wir noch nicht betrachtet haben?
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Ich meine, ich glaube, das wurde schon erwähnt. Es gab viel Zerrung, es könnten iranische Drohnen sein. Ich meine, es gab Berichte, dass das, weshalb die Enauguration aufgehoben wurde, ein iranischer Drohnen-Vertrag war.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Oh, ich war, ich war wirklich überrascht darüber. Und du solltest es sein. Wir haben eine Art Intelligenz aus dieser Ballone extrahiert.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Wie beschäftigt sind Sie sich, dass China, Russland, Iran, Name, das Gegenteil von uns, diese Art von Technologie haben?
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Die UAP.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Interessant.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Sie haben keine völlig anderen Sachen als wir. Nein, naja. Aber ein bisschen anders.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Wenn wir Fälle mit Russland, Japan oder China teilen, wer auch immer es ist, sehen wir Verbindungen in der Intelligenz?
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Okay. Okay. Wow. Wie viel denken Sie, dass sie wissen, dass wir es nicht wissen?
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Ich hoffe, wir beginnen, Antworten zu bekommen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
Wenn du deine Gesundheit so ernst wie ich nimmst, weißt du, wie wichtig Hydration ist. Deshalb will ich dir über Hoist erzählen. Hoist ist in den USA hergestellt und hat drei mal die Elektrolyte und halb den Zucker, als andere Sporttrinken, ohne Artifizierte Dosen oder Preservativen. Hoist ist weltweit auf militärischer Ebene. serving warfighters in operations and training.
Shawn Ryan Show
#168 Lue Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search
I wish I had had Hoist as an option for hydration during my military career, especially the brand new flavor they just released, Five Star Punch. Through December 31st, 2025, Hoist is donating a minimum of $10,000 to Folds of Honor, a non-profit organization that provides educational scholarships to family members of fallen service members or first responders.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Being a man, it takes being vulnerable, it takes raising kids, and it takes monogamous relationships to better society. Look at these people that run around their whole life. That's not a good road to go down. I mean, if you're not trying to better society, then what the fuck are you doing?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
I mean, even, I mean, I've had tons of people that come up and they're even employees of mine. They're like, Oh, I can't, I'm never going to be able to buy a house. And it's like, well, have you talked to a fucking loan officer?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Because they've just heard it all. They've heard all the other victims, you know, talk about, oh, I can't buy a house. It's too expensive.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Every time you want to try to find success or if you want something that's hard to get, you're going to have to sacrifice something.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
And nobody wants to sacrifice. They just want to victimize themselves.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
I just got kind of tired of doing gun training. I mean, you know, I had a 14-year career in the SEAL teams and at CIA, and then I was training people, and it really took off, like, really fast. And I trained... Keanu Reeves for John Wick 3 that created like a lot of controversy that I'd rather not go into. But but it kind of left a bad taste in my mouth with the whole tactical genre.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Five years from now, When you walk back up here, and you won't be here anymore, and you're like, holy shit, this is my camera setup. This was the shiplat I put up the night before the first interview. I saw your Instagram. You were painting the fireplace or something last night. Like... that's fucking cool, man.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
That's a story that's overcoming, you know, adversity and, and like, it's going to build you into whatever you're going to become, which is going to be some, something massive. And I'm super excited for it. I started in my attic, you know, and I did the same thing. I was just using barn wood that we ripped off a barn and threw it up there, put some lighting up, had no idea what I was doing.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
And I grew into, I mean, now you know where we're at. We're out of a garage. and then six months from now four months from now we'll be in a 7 000 square foot brand new studio that we built from the ground up but yeah It started in my attic with me and my wife, and that's it. Awesome.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Now that room's a playroom for my kids, but we go up there, and it's like, man, can you believe this is where it started? Yeah. And it builds a culture, and it's just awesome, man. When it sucks getting started because you don't have all the resources, and you don't have everything that everybody else has, but when you build it yourself, then you have everything that nobody else has.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
You know you can do it.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
the romanian parliament the next day but i mean you know i just don't let the shit get to your head and like i said like all the way back coming out of my psychedelic experience i'm just doing what's in what interests me i'm not letting anything else dictate drive influence what i do the minute i get a hint of that i'm out you know and like just stay grounded
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Try. Like you have to try, you know, and you're going to fail and you should fail. I mean, I failed at a whole bunch of shit. It sounds so cliche because people say this shit all the time, but you cannot chalk all your failures up. It's just failures. Like, It's an education. Like every time you go and you try something and you fail, like that's an education. That's a learning point.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
You have to be able to self reflect and get over your ego and all the other shit that goes along with it. But you have to be able to self reflect and dissect your failures and go, okay, what did we learn from this? Why didn't this work? Why did I fail? And then reconstruct it again and make it better the next time. I mean, we fail at stuff all the time.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
sometimes i hire the wrong people we've had guests on that i shouldn't have had it's like i said you have to you have to take a chance you have to make sacrifices and you have to be you you can't here's another thing that i see all the time when i started my podcast everybody had the purple curtain behind them you know in the headset and the microphones and all the little trinkets on the desk
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
You know what I mean? And I talked about this with Joe when I was on his podcast and I looked at it and I was like, we're not doing that. I'm not doing that. Like I have to be me. What represents me? I like interior design type shit. I like doing it. And so I wanted to design my own studio. I wanted to put things in that like meant something to me, you know, like I wanted that sign.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
And so I didn't really know what I was going to do. But podcasting was obviously getting pretty big. And I was going to do that. And I was doing reviews. I tried a reality like a reality show, like a survival reality show.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Everybody that comes on the show signs that vigilance elite sign. Now it's like a museum over there. But anyways, like,
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Yeah, it's 100% me. I wanted good camera aesthetics. I wanted a moving shot. I didn't want equipment in the shot. I wanted something totally different. I wanted to call it a show instead of a podcast. You know what I mean? Now... Everything's a show. Now, everybody has multicams, you know, that look better. I had previews for a long time.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
We just cut the previews because we have so many guests coming in, thanks to Jeremy, my new producer, that we just don't have time to make the previews anymore. But I really wanted it to be like a full production that looked really, really good.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Yeah, and that might be your thing. You know what I mean? I'm not discounting that. Maybe it is fold-up chairs and a fold-up table.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
It has to be you. You cannot try to imitate what other people are doing and try to get success off that because it's not authentic. And I think, you know, I don't know much about Gen Z, but from what I've heard, Gen Z really craves authenticity. They do. So if you're not being authentic, you're not fucking going anywhere.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
No, no, no. I was, I was having patrons from my Patreon come into town and I would run them through a scenario. Like I think the first one was, Hey, you got like a hundred bucks and the end of the world's happening and you can go to Bass Pro and buy whatever you want, but it's a hundred dollars. And then I would grade them on like what they bought.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Yeah. It's not easy. You'll constantly innovate. You'll make minute changes. And because it's all you, you're just constantly trying to be perfecting it. What can we do better? What can we do better? How can we make it look better? How can we make it sound better? How can we crank them out faster? How can we get to the people we want to reach?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
You'll just start solving all those problems one by one by one by one. But
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Who are you going to go after? Yeah, what kind of interviewees?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Wait, you were a childhood actor?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
What were you in?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Dude, you just told me you grew up in Chattanooga. I know.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Damn. So when did you move back here?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Wait, you were going to go from acting to being an attorney? What kind of attorney?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
For somebody like me who did start, you know, on my own from the very beginning, I always thought I needed help. I needed to be over there. Or I needed to be over there. Or I needed an agent. Or I needed this. I needed that. And I could never get anybody to pay attention. And then it's like we went from here to now it's like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What are you going to do for me?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
We got some acreage South of where I live, like a lot of acreage. And so I ran them through, What did I do? It was, oh, build a shelter and things to think about where you're going to build it, how you're going to build it, like longevity, how close to water, all this stuff. And so I sent them out into the woods and gave them a time limit. And we filmed like the process.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Oh, you're the best? That's what I hear all the time. I'm the best. We're the best. We're the best.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Yeah. You know, and it's like... Decline every call. Sorry, dude. We're good. Maybe I'll go... I don't know. Who knows? Never say never, right? But... I spent a long time wondering what it was like on the other side of the fence, having never had the opportunity to get there. And then, I mean, so that you already know. So you don't have that distraction.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
How much like how much fame were you experiencing?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Wow, and you thought you'd be a bad attorney, huh?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
I think it's still on YouTube.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Yeah, but I was like... If I keep doing this, I'm probably going to get sued. Somebody's going to fall off a cliff or drowned or who knows. And I was doing podcasting at the same time and I just like really liked doing it.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Yeah, it's like they're trying to hide it.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
I thought it'd be horrible at it cause I'm not much of a talker, but I got tired of, I mean, you know, my background and I wanted guys like, I just got sick of the same talking heads talking about Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, what war is like, what it was like on certain raids about Benghazi. And it was like, nobody's like talking to the people that were there.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
That would be a good one. That would be a good one. So what do you... I mean, will there be a commonality?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
I love being a dad. It's awesome. And it's hard.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
The balance between, especially being an entrepreneur, the balance between being a husband, a dad, and an entrepreneur is really tough.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
We talk about this a lot on my show. I always ask these ultra-successful people how they find the balance. Nobody has the answer. Nobody has the answer. But I've kind of chalked it up to, I mean, if you can go home and your kids are happy, legitimately happy. Like if you go home and you feel and experience joy,
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
in their lives and you see it in their eyes and the same with my wife, you must be doing all right, you know, but there's always like, there's always this tremendous amount of guilt. And you know, the other thing is like me and my wife have a framed, like, I don't know, 24 by 12, maybe picture frame that we nailed to the wall.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
And we just have like all the years stuff that we want to do and things that we want to, it's like our goal. We do it every January. Some of the things on there, like one is just like, don't make anything about money. Like just don't do it. Then you become a slave to something. I don't know, man.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
I don't know what the perfect balance is, but I think that's like the most important thing is if you can go home and you can not only experience, but you see joy and happiness in your kids, in your spouse's eyes. you're doing all right.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
So I thought it was important to document that history. So I started bringing on guys like Mike and people that nobody had ever heard of. And cause I couldn't, you know, I didn't, I couldn't get anybody with any big names. I didn't want big names either. And but I just wanted people that had been there and done that and were on the ground to document history.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Where I was going with the don't make things about money thing is,
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
you start making everything about money you'll be on the road all the time like one of the things i learned with the agent is like i want to be a businessman yeah i want to be i want of course i want to be wealthy and make a lot of money who doesn't right but the one thing that i like with the agents and everything is i had to be everything i have to go on a speaking tour i have to write a book i have to do the podcast i have to do more podcasts i have to and it's like
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
You're basically starving my kids of a fucking father. And you're starving my wife of a husband all for money, which there won't even be any time to spend the fucking money because you guys have... sold me out every minute of my life would have been sold out. And so that's why I got rid of all of them. And I want another direction.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
And I didn't want anybody in the entertainment business, whatever. But I want to build other verticals that don't involve me all the time. Like I just, I'm not going to do it, man. Like, yeah. I probably could be making 10 times the fucking money I'm making right now, but I'm not going to do it because my kid won't have a dad and my daughter won't have a dad and my wife won't have a husband.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
I mean, we all know how that story ends up. Then you have kids with no fucking masculinity in their life and they turn out to be a disaster. And I'm just not willing to make that trade. I don't know where I was going with this.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
communication and openness i bounce everything off my wife all every business decision every person i'm gonna hire i mean everything she's a partner truly yep she's a partner i mean even though she's not you know she's not at the beginning like i couldn't have done it without her she was literally we taught ourselves how to run the cameras now you know she's a she's the mom and
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
and she does a phenomenal job but it's just always checking yourself you know and and being open and dropping my ego and when she tells me something like you're working too much you're you're you're working too much and then you come home like this is the latest one and this was probably a month ago And it made me feel like shit, but she was right. You know, she's like, you're working too much.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
And everybody knows about the veteran suicide epidemic. So it was guys that had started businesses that found success or that were they were trying to find success because I'd already had maybe 250, 500,000 on my YouTube just from
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
I know, you know, you've tripled your team since October, but you're gone all the time. You're, you're, you're constantly at work. You're trying to get things going and you come home late at night. Then you want to talk to me about work and my son will be
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
spouting off trying to get my attention and I'll immediately discipline him and she's like in his eyes it's like who the fuck is this guy he comes home hasn't been home all day comes home doesn't want to hang out with me He's talking to mom. I want his attention. And then he disciplines me immediately. She's like, you really, you have to like reassess and just love, love, love him.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
That shit hits, you know what I mean? But he, you have to, you just have to be willing to like have those deep discussions and realize like, oh man, I've been fucking up.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Yeah. You have to be willing to listen to the stuff that you don't want to hear. Yeah. You know, and that's tough to do. And you know, I think the other thing is like, you just, you have to make time. I mean, You have to make time. You have to be able to separate from all of this, which is going to be hard for you to do because it's here. You know what I mean?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
But you have to make the time to, like, be his wife. And I have to make the time to be my wife's husband and to shut it down and whatever that takes. We go on trips. You know, another thing, like, when you have kids, like, and I don't say this in a bad way, but you lose who you were. Me and my wife, like,
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
we have to have somebody come in and watch the kids every couple of months, even if it's just a weekend, you know, like even if like, we just went to the four seasons in Nashville and just didn't leave the room and did room service and, Had a great time.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
But, um, but, uh, you just, you have to, it just takes that so that you can, so we can get back to being Sean and Katie, you know, even if it's just for 48 hours, even if she's just for 24 hours, but like, it's a great recharge. It freshens you up. It makes you a better dad, better wife, a better, a better husband, a better dad. a better mom, a better wife because, you know, you're refreshed.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
I think that's another key component is just communication, being open, listening to the shit you don't want to listen, that you don't really want to hear, and, you know, that connection of who you were before kids, before entrepreneurship, like who you fell in love with.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
gun videos and tactics and shit like that so anyways we would talk about you know the the downward spiral after service and kind of trying to find purpose again and a lot of guys are doing this through entrepreneurship and so They would come on, we'd document their wartime experience, document their downward spiral, talk about how they got out of it.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Yeah. man, what would I look for? I mean, you obviously have to be attracted, you know, that's, it's just not going to work if you're not, but it doesn't mean you have to get the centerfold playmate, you know? And I think so many, that's just ego. And I think so many men like that shit wears off, man. It does. Like, I don't care who you are. It wears off eventually.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
And you're just going to want more and more and more and more. And so kind of what I'm getting at is, is just one, like when you go out and you're meeting people, other, like you have to be yourself. Like you have to be yourself to see how you actually connect with with the other person.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Because if you're not, if you're being somebody else to try to impress them, then you're building yourself into a fucking character and you're gonna have to be that character for the rest of your life, which is exhausting. It's like imprisoning yourself right at the very beginning. And so you just have to be yourself and see how you connect with that other person.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
And if you don't connect, you know, what I see a lot of young people doing too is they try to force it. Like, oh, I can make this work. If it doesn't fucking work and there's like not the connection, if you can't be yourself, that's not who you want to be with, man. It's just, it's not. There has to be a natural human connection. And if it doesn't, you know, like quit trying to force it.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
If there's not a connection, that's okay. Move on to the next one.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Exactly. Too many people try to force it. And it just never works out.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
My pleasure. Best of luck. I'm excited for you.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
And then I would kick it out the door, and these guys' businesses would just shoot through the roof. And it was awesome. And so it just stuck. It just stuck. And then I wanted to broaden out to be able to talk about other things than just war and suicide attempts. And...
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
stuff, you know, it's heavy, heavy, heavy content and, um, infidelity and addiction and all that kind of stuff that kind of goes with the, with the typical special operator lifestyle. And so I started going into cartels and then that's much lighter. Yeah. Well, at least it was broadening a little bit, you know, I think I did like nine episodes. It was pretty much all spec ops guys, one cartel guy.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
And then I did this psychedelic journey in I came back and I just was like, I'm going to do whatever, whatever I want to do. I'm doing, I don't care about what the audience wants. I don't care. I'm just doing what I want to do. And then it really exploded.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Yeah, I was interested in it, but then like, I mean, there's just nobody that could tap into the lives of combat veterans, especially the special operations crowd like I have been able to. I credit a lot of that to my therapist, but it like, because I was tooting my own horn here, but because I got so good at it, like the audience just fed off that and they wanted more and more and more and more.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
I mean, we're getting guys with... Huge kill counts, lots of combat. Like the toughest people in the world, they come on and they like break down and cry. And to like see a man like that be vulnerable, like it just captivates millions of people. And so I got worried that, I was like, man, like I'm never gonna be able to do something else. I'm never gonna be able to have a female
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
in the chair across from me or I'm never going to be able to talk to a doctor or a politician or whoever or whatever I'm interested in or Jojo Siwa. But... If she's watching, Sean wants her on the show. But yeah, so then I did that experience and I just... I was like, fuck it, man. I'm doing whatever I want. I'm going to do whatever I want to do.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
And if the audience is with me, then they're with me. And if they're not, I don't care. I'm doing this because I want to have fun. I don't want to be a slave to anything.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Well, congratulations. You're independent now. I know. I'm excited. So welcome to the club. It's exciting, man. I'm happy for you.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Man, that's a broad question. It's a big one.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Look, I think being a man... I mean, if you're not trying to better society, then what the fuck are you doing? It takes being vulnerable. It takes raising kids. And it takes monogamous relationships to better society. I mean, I think, and you know, like anybody that thinks that's not what it's about, look at these people.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
that run around their whole life, and they jump from woman to woman, and they don't have any kids, and then they're 65 years old. Nobody wants them anymore. Nobody gives a shit about them. They've contributed nothing to society, and look at how fucking miserable those people are. They left nothing positive in society that they've made. They've left no marks. They're just lost, lonely souls.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
trying to suck everybody they can into what they've created because they're so fucking lonely they can't even stand it. That's not a good road to go down. I mean, I think every man's got to get, you know, a certain amount of mischief out of their system to become, like, the man that they're supposed to be.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
But if you haven't left a mark on society, you know, whether it's your kids or your wife or whoever, your nieces and nephews, what have you done here?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
I mean, when I talk about these guys coming on and getting vulnerable, I mean, I can get, to a certain extent, I understand. I mean, these guys aren't fucking crying over spilled milk.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
I mean, for example, the last guy that I had on that broke down was a really good friend of mine, Chris Fetis. And Chris was on a hostage rescue mission for SEAL Team 6, and he had to kill two kids. And he was a sniper. And after that, he just kept having these reoccurring nightmares where he would relive that, and the kids didn't die, like, right off the bat.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
In his dream, they would look up and it would be his son's face on the kid that he just shot. And Chris isn't the only one that has been through an event like that. I mean, we did 20 years alone just in Afghanistan. Then there's Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, all these other places. And these guys, men and women that are coming home, they don't know how to deal with this shit.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Thanks for having me. So I'm guest number one?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
And so when you get a guy like that that comes on... And he starts to tear up, and his emotions kind of overcome him on display in front of millions of people. That's not like bitching and whining because he got a cut on his finger. It's not weakness either. That's a fucking man right there.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
To be able to come up, open up like that, talk about what he's experiencing, and then all the other combat veterans that have come home that have been through a situation like that, I mean, that's fucking masculinity, you know, to be able to do that on display in front of millions of people and not worry about being judged.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
What an honor.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
They show, and me included, I mean, a big theme. I mean, it's not like we have a motto or anything like that, but a big theme is, I mean, we bring on the most badass warriors of this generation. of this lifetime. The commonality between all of us is, you know, it's okay not to be okay. And it's okay to get some help when you're not okay.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
You don't have to suck it up and, and be a fucking tough guy all the time. Everybody knows, man, you don't have to prove it anymore.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Mike. Do you know Mike?
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Yeah. I think a big problem is we have rewarded being a victim and everybody wants to be a victim. Now I had it so hard. I had it harder than you. I can't like a big thing that I hear with Gen Z is like, Oh, it's impossible. I can't start a business. I can't buy a house. I can't do this. I'm going, I'm going to therapy. My fucking boss was mean to me.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
Yeah, Mike Glover. We worked together at the agency. He was a Green Beret and then started Field Graph Survival, but...
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
And it's like, man, like you've got to, instead of taking that all in and victimizing yourself, I mean, Use that as a motivator to get out of whatever the fuck your, whatever your hurdles are. And use that as a driver.
The Brett Cooper Show
Shawn Ryan on Masculinity, Independence, and Family | Episode 6
I interview a lot of super successful people, you know, like some of the world's most successful people on my show. And everybody, I mean, you have to turn yourself into an innovator. When you figure out, you know, well, what are you jealous of? That's what you want to be. So figure out how the fuck to get there, map it out and figure out a way to get there.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You quit right before they talked about the 10 person sex parties.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Oh, yeah. I was going to compare it to special ops. That guy doesn't know shit. I know, you know, that's kind of how.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
A lot of people are. I mean, it's crazy. It's like everything you knew is just flipped upside down.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I got a really good friend of mine that's deployed in. overseas right now. Not according to Kamala Harris. Yeah, he's sniping bad guys over in Africa.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I'm sure that's what's going on. It could be that. I don't think it's really immoral. It's not immoral. It's just a rally. Everybody wants their rally to be full. I mean, you know, it's just, I don't. It's a facade, man. Yeah. It's just a facade.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, this has been going on for a long time, though. You know, sometimes a Kung Pao chicken is a chicken.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I just want to hear how they're going to accomplish all this stuff.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I think it's crazy they didn't cover it. I mean, it barely got covered.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Have you looked into the BlackRock commercial stuff at all?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
What do you think – I mean, have you thought about who's behind all these assassination attempts? Do you think they're lone wolves or –
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, I don't think they're going to be around that much longer. I feel like that the media will die with the baby boomer generation.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Was it nice for you to come off YouTube? Did you enjoy that when it first happened?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
That's what I meant. I meant with like the censorship stuff. I was wondering, you know. Want to hear something interesting? Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You know what really bothers me is— We both put a lot into this, you know? And what bothers me, it's like, just tell me what you want me to take out. What is it?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Illegal stuff. Even language. I mean- There's three-year-olds out watching. I got a three-year-old kid. He's watching YouTube.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
So I get it when they mark my shit with 18 plus, but they won't tell me. I can't correct the fucking problem if you don't tell me what it is. Right. I mean, they just don't want to abide by... They don't want to box themselves in and not be able to censor somebody.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, if you can control what comes out of people's mouths and you can control what they think.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You know, it doesn't seem like everything's so compartmentalized in government and especially at that kind of classified level.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It's scary, man. I mean, I don't know. I think about it all the time, obviously. Yeah. I mean, it's industry. So it just – I don't know. I hope X turns out to be the new thing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, I hope, you know, I just hope this shit starts to turn around. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yes. He was like, you don't have to wear a mask. Then it was wear two. Then it was wear doubles. Put two face diapers on.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day How are you, man? How's it going? Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I know. It was, I mean, it's like, what are you, there's nothing they won't do.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Do you think they're cowards or do you think they just they're just lazy and they like being told what to do?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Whatever, security clearance level. I mean, there's... Whatever, I didn't get that high up, but... I've not seen like a database where you can just look anything up like, oh, shit, who killed up JFK?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You know, I went down to the border about, I think it was about two years ago-ish, maybe a little longer. And I went down with Ed Calderon. I love Ed. Yeah, what a great guy, right?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, well, that's where I found him. So thank you. But so, no, I went down to TJ with him. And this was like before it really, really hit the news cycle. And we walked into a migrant camp. There's probably a couple thousand migrants there. And so I yanked one of them out and interviewed him and, you know, used Ed to help translate.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And I mean, the guy's been sitting there for like I think he was there with his wife and kids for like two years. And I was like, why don't you just like go across, dude? It's I mean, it's an honest question. Like, why don't you just go across? He said he wanted to do it the right way. Wow. You know, he's like now he's like, I just want to do it the right way. Oh, my God.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
He's running around with this little battery pack charging cell phones for 50 cents. You know, and I'm like, I'm just like, fuck it. Hey, man. Like, why don't like why don't they just. Because nobody's anti-immigration. No. Not that I know of. No, we're anti-terrorists sneaking in. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Why don't you just unfuck the immigration process and maybe we can get some more people in here quicker legally if you do that. And then we actually know who's coming in and we have documentation of who they are.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Good point. Good point. I mean, have you done any digging on who's coming across there? Yeah. I talked to Dr. Phil about it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It's fucking scary, man. I've been diving into the border shit for quite a while. And ever since this Afghanistan withdrawal, that was like a big... I mean, that was just fucking horrible.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Dude, do you know who Tyler Andrew Vargas is? No. That's the one Marine that survived that big, that suicide bombing at Abbey Gate. Abbey Gate was, it killed 13 Marines. Yeah. And so I called him. Well, everybody wanted him to come on the show. And I was like, I'm never going to get this fucking guy. Like, all the media, everybody wants him. And, um, but I was like, all right, fine.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I'll reach out. So hit him on, hit him on the, on the gram and, uh, message right back. And he got in and he's like, man, he's like, I'm so glad that you reached out to me. He's like, I was literally just praying with my fiance that you would reach out. Cause he had just did an ABC good morning, America interview interviewed for seven hours.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
They released five seconds of that interview because it made the administration look so fucking bad. They wouldn't air it. So I got him on, kept getting dinged by YouTube. They didn't like the real footage, which was actually from his cell phone that we put. We do previews and shit. But... man, like to have like his, you know, testimony about what happened that day.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And, and, uh, and then the, the care that afterwards, which was a fucking trocious, you know, guy, I watched this guy, my studios on the second story. And, um, I'd watch a 23-year-old kid hobble up those fucking stairs with one leg, one arm, all kinds of shit going on in his intestine. I mean, I was like, man, what the fuck, man? This didn't even have to happen. They had the guy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
They had the fucking guy in the sights. They could have killed him. And, you know, nobody... Nobody gave him permission. I just, you know, maybe they, I mean, I can't backseat quarterback it, but maybe they shouldn't have asked, just eliminated him. Jesus Christ. But I mean, he's talking about, you know, before we got into the actual incident, he was talking about,
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You know, like moms trying to throw their babies over the wall and getting caught up in razor wire and just seeing a fucking baby dangle there by the leg. Yeah. You know, it's... And there's like no... you know, there's no repercussions for how that went down. The media just wants to fucking cover it up.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so, so I, I started digging deep and, uh, I teamed up with the former, uh, CA targeter, Sarah Adams, and then a really good friend of mine, Scott man. And we went over to Vienna, uh, to interview this guy, Ahmad Masood, who's the leader, the commander of the Northern Alliance out there. That's like the resistance it's kind of fighting the Taliban.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You know, the Taliban pretty much took over government in Afghanistan. I saw the parade. Yeah. With all our shit that we left there. Crazy. Yeah, man. So we got a bunch of intel from Massoud and, you know, like still kind of looping all the way back around to the southern border. I mean, so once Taliban took control of all of our shit, I mean, this could go on for a while, but...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
So now what they're doing is they have the passport office over there just making legitimate passports to – now there's 21 terrorist organizations over there training. Hansa Bin Laden, who we were told was killed, is actually fucking alive. And he's marrying into all these other terrorist networks. So he married Mullah Omar's daughter. He married into all these different terrorist networks.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so these guys used to be like competitors, kind of, just like the UFO guys. They all hate each other, but they all have the one common theme, like disclosure. These guys, the one common thing is, let's go take over the Western world. So he is basically Hansa bin Laden, is, is married into all these terrorist organizations.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Now they all have one common goal to come over to, you know, the Western world and, and ruin our way of life. And so what they're doing is they're funneling as many of these terrorists into the passport office, creating them legitimate, real passports. And then they sprinkle them, they get them flights into all over South Central America, and then they funnel them up. Um,
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
through the Darien gap into the, into the U S. And so, you know, there's, there is, there is zero, I don't give a fuck what the FBI or any of these people are saying. They have, there is zero way to track how many of these fuckers have come in to the U S. And so, you know, now what we're going to see is like, October 7th style attacks like we just saw in Israel and in the mall in Russia.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And everybody's like, oh, you know, there's well, do you think this is by design?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Absolutely, I think it's by design. I mean, they basically told Border Patrol, stand down. Like, do not do your fucking job. We're going to blast you. I mean, remember the guy on the horse that they said was whipping people and it wound up being like the reins of the horse? Yeah. Yeah, I think it's I think it's by design, you know, from from the government.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
But I don't I think that there look, I think that the government is is is more incompetent than it's ever been before. And I think they have one common goal and that I think the goal is voting. You know, they want them to vote. But I don't think that they I don't think they're competent enough to realize the the death and destruction and the the other repercussions that we're going to face.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
By keeping that border open, you know, because because they don't have anybody, you know, that did. They don't have anybody with any experience that's – they don't have any solid intelligence stuff going on that's telling them, like, hey, this is what's going to happen. It's all agenda-driven. Jesus Christ. Does that make sense?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, shit, though. I mean, unrest, I mean – They got really good at unrest, you know what I mean, in 2020, right? All through or even before 2020, up to that election. So I don't think they need to import terrorism in cartels.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, and then people, I mean, do you ever think about why nothing's happened yet? Like China. Have you looked into the power grid at all?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. Well, I mean, China, you know, we have those we have we have you know, we get those big trans. Everything's imported from China and we have these huge, you know, transformers. You can tell me shut up if you already know all the shit. But all of those transformers are imported from China. And they're not checked. They don't even fucking check them for malware or Trojan horses or anything.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
on top of that so then then doe department of energy actually investigated one because somebody somebody was it got to dc that whatever they decided to look into it and they wouldn't fucking release the results they wouldn't fucking release the results So, you know, they're in our water treatment plants. They're in our power grid.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I've been talking about this shit for years, and then— Cell phone towers. Cell phone towers. And then FBI Director Chris Wray comes out and says, oh, yeah, turns out our grid's really vulnerable. China's in there. And they're also in our treatment plants, which means they can fucking poison us.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You seen those piles? I remember pulling the fucking masks out, you know. I didn't wear them very long, but I fell for it for about 30 days. Did you? And then I was like, this is fucking bullshit. But, yeah, you pull the mask out, and I live out in the woods, so I didn't, you know. But, yeah, made in China. I'm like, wait, didn't the thing come from there? They're making money hand over fees.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean I just – I don't feel like – I feel like technology is advancing. It's such a rapid pace. I mean, I feel like AI and robots will take over everything.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. That would be good. No, I'm with you. I guess what I'm saying is I don't see the union worker. I don't see where their place really fits in anymore. There's going to be a lot less of them, that's for sure.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, I think that would be great. I mean – I probably shouldn't be talking about my direction that I'm going to go, but fuck it, whatever. That's what I want to do. I want to start going and talking to all these foreign dignitaries and getting a different perspective on what we're doing. I don't think we're the good guys anymore.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I don't agree with a lot of the shit that I was involved in as a SEAL or a CIA contractor. I mean, like BRICS. Are you familiar with BRICS? No. Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. Don't quote me on this. I think they have 22 countries now. It's kind of like... It's kind of like a counter to NATO.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It's all these countries that are tired of us, tired of the tariffs, tired of the weaponization of the U.S. dollar. And so basically what they're trying to do is throw the U.S. currency off the world stage and pull it and use Chinese yen. Whoa. And, you know, I mean, that would destroy us if all trade went to...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
If the world reserve currency went to the Chinese yuan, that would destroy our economy. And so – but they're gaining a lot of traction on this. And so, yeah, I would love to go to any one of these 22 countries and talk to them and just ask, like – Why are you doing this? Right. Why are you doing this? Because that gives – nobody's fucking talking about this shit.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, there's no journalists talking about this. You could look up Bricks on X. There's a page. It's pretty – I don't know if it's like an official one, but – But they're always posting, like, updates about it and what's going on.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so I think it would be really important for somebody to go around and start talking to, you know, getting another perspective rather than what, you know, Fox and CNN have to say about it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Really? Yeah. I mean, that's I mean, I used to get like really upset when people would, you know, talk about, you know, the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan and and. when I was still in, you know, and I got so pissed off. I've moved out of the fucking country. And I was like, I don't even want to listen to this shit anymore.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
But after diving in and looking at the policies that came out and kind of, you know, it's kind of like when it's just reflecting on some of the policy decisions and stuff that didn't really make sense at the time when I was in that now I look back and I'm like, man, what the, like, I didn't have time to think about it then. Cause it was okay. Go on the next stop, go on the next mission, whatever.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Right. And, but now like looking back through the podcast and talking to, you know, my podcast started with all my former colleagues and, and, and mill and agency. Nobody thinks we should have been there, especially Iraq. Nobody thinks we should have been there. Um, It's, and I just keep going down the rabbit hole and man, I just, I don't,
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
diving into the military-industrial complex, all the lies that the government has been telling us, all the unreleased classified shit. It's overwhelming, and it's created 100% complete distrust in government. I mean, the Dick Cheney stuff. I mean, you know about Dick Cheney, Halliburton. Yeah. Have you looked into that at all?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I don't think people understand like how – Crazy that is. How big... I mean, it was the fucking logistics company for two wars. That's like... That's everything, Joe. That's... They're delivering your mail. They're building your barracks. They're cooking your food. They're in charge of garbage. They're in charge of fuel. They're everything. Everything.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Everything that's logistical over there is Halliburton, KBR.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
In both countries. And I mean... You know, I think people think Afghanistan like, oh, man, you're probably on a tent or sleeping on the side of a mountain or something. No, man, there's fucking Burger King, KFC, Pizza Hut, Thai restaurants. I mean, that's all. That's all logistics. I mean, it's it's fucking it's it's cities that we built over there. And it all was built by Halliburton. Wow.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Who is, you know, the vice president. The CEO's vice president in the fucking country. Like, what? Are you serious?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, there's no, nobody died. It's like nobody actually has an opinion anymore. They're just told, you know, they're just told, hey, this is what we're going with for the next two hours. Right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Wow. I didn't know that. Yeah. Have you messed around with the, have you heard of the Yuka app? No. Dude, you got to get the Yuka app. What is it? So you basically scan anything, like food related. It's Y-U-K-A? I think it's Y-U-C-A. There it is. Nice. There it is. Y-U-K-A.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. That's what I was saying about the baby boomer generation. I mean, I think that the media will die. If things continue just the way they are and the censorship doesn't get too bad, I think the media is done when the baby boomers.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, I mean, the guy's so wealthy, I don't think he really cares about a good investment. Also, he's so old. He just wants a megaphone.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I wonder if they're... buying their place outside of the rules. Like, hey, I donated your thing. I don't have to live by these fucking rules.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
There it is. See, like honey nut sugar. So it'll tell you the additives in there.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
That's what I – sometimes I think it's all – it is a complete facade.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And it'll tell you all the chemicals and what the chemicals do to you.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
That's, you know... Yeah, he shaved... What did he shave? Like 80% of the staff off Twitter? Oh, yeah. When he got it?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It's that control what they say, control what they think.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, I don't... I mean, it's a tough... I mean, what are we going to do, though? I mean, China, you know, Xi Jinping has come out and said that he believes that the winner to the race of AI will achieve global domination. So what do you do? Do you try to control it? Is... So is Americans, do you try to control it or do you go, fuck it, we got to do it, man. We got to go.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
We got to go or China is going to pass this up, which they probably already have.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Let them fly spy balloons, you know, traverse the entire United States.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You know, it bothers me, though. Maybe they're not ahead of us, but, I mean, you know, the energy that they're building coal mines every day to power all this stuff. And we're going on about should we use fossil fuels or not. Yeah. And, you know, we just talked about how weak our grid is. So if we don't beef up the grid and start going, you know, nuclear.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, there's literally no – I mean I look into this all the time. There's no infrastructure going in to correct the problem because the problem is so big that nobody wants to tackle it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Didn't NVIDIA start producing all their chips in the ocean? They're buying these massive ships. Really? You'd have to look that up.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It was one of those articles I started reading, and I was like, I don't understand any of this shit.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Well, the drone game, too. I mean, that's the future of warfare, right, is all these drone swarms. And DJI, you know, that's a Chinese company. And this is a... This is going to be a big fucking problem when we realize, hey, the next one isn't going to be guys in caves anymore. Right.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, yeah. It's, uh... I mean, I don't... I hope it comes back to the U.S., but I would just... I would like to see us just start getting stuff from somebody other than China. That would be nice. That would be a great start.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Well, I mean, you have to just think, I mean, it's Chinese. From what I understand, it's Chinese law that anything, any business that is taking that is being conducted within China. If it helps – if the technology helps the military or could potentially help the military, then China – then CCP has access.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And that's end of story. So anything, any fucking thing over there that's being developed or manufactured – It's – all of that technology is in their hands. Yeah. It just is.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. They suck these American companies in with getting around the red tape and – And then it's in the cheap labor, cheap prices, and then once it's going, I mean, they control it. Do you want this money train to end right now? Because you're not in America, buddy.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. I mean, do you – you've dove into this more than anybody else I know. I mean, what do you think this – what do you think it all is?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it. Crazy story. Kind of like that. Do you know who is that? Chris Bledsoe?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Have you heard of him? What's that one? Chris Bledsoe, he's a guy that had that experience as well. You've not heard of Chris Bledsoe? Maybe, I haven't or forgot. It's possible. Yeah, it's kind of the same thing. His memory's kind of gone, and that's what it sounds like.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what all this is, man. I just, you know, I try to dive into it on the podcast and have talked to, you know, a handful of guys and
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, he kind of like mixes it with biblical stuff, right? That's kind of I don't know. That's what I lean towards with all this stuff, to be honest with you, is maybe I think there's some consciousness aspect. I think there's I think there's I think it is the afterlife.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, yeah. Have you ever looked into, because I think I kind of group all this stuff in together, but have you looked into the remote viewing stuff?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Does it bother you if there's some type... I don't know, some type of a new... Does it bother you if it's not FDA approved at all, if it's new? Like nobody's looked into it?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Happens all the time, man. That's weird. I mean, what they say, we use 10 percent of our brain.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
No. Dude, you have to talk to him. Who's he? He is remote viewer number one for the U.S. But he's not like kooky or anything like that at all. Really? No. How do you not be kooky in your remote viewer? Dude, you just have a conversation with him. He's there. Okay. No weird vibes, not from my end anyways. But...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
But the way he, you know, I asked him, I'm like, well, how do you, like, how does it, how did it happen? Do you think, does everybody have this? Or, you know, I was just pinging him with questions. And he said he thinks we all have had it since the beginning. And that, I mean, he was basically saying, if you look at how animals communicate, they kind of communicate telepathically, right?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And he was talking about caveman times. He used to point at shit and grunt and nod heads and look at things, and everybody would know what you're thinking about. And he goes, and then we started traveling in groups, and then language was kind of born. Yeah.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And he goes, language actually slowed down our initial form of communication, which was, you know, it wasn't maybe as descriptive, but it was just as deliberate as speaking a language. And then you introduced technology, and basically what he was kind of saying is, you know, that our brains have been kind of dubbed down from, you know, thousands and thousands of years of,
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
technology coming out and language and all these other things and i don't know lose the ability to exactly we we we don't i mean you hear it all the time you don't use it you lose it right you know and and so basically what he's saying is we're losing our instincts i mean that and that makes sense if you don't use it i mean isn't that what the appendix is in the isn't the appendix an organ that we no longer need anymore because we cook food
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. I mean, you know, there's all kinds of I mean, if you've heard of people, if you heard of people kind of. How do I describe this? Me and my wife were just having this conversation the other day. If you heard of people that kind of they start preparing for their death. but they're not realizing they're preparing for their death.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It's like an intuition that they're unaware that they're going to die, and so they start preparing everything for their departure and not even realizing that they're going to pass.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, I think that's just another example of – I think that we have – lost a lot of intuitions and we don't really know how to go back and exercise them. That's kind of what I think.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yep. You know, my – this person that works for me turned me on to this podcast the other day, and it was talking about how – this is unverified, but it was still a fascinating conversation. They were talking about how in – I can't remember the amount of years, but humans will begin to lose their peripheral vision because they're looking at a phone so much. Whoa. That we're evolving.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I guess you could, I don't know if I would call that evolving. Yeah, devolving. Wow.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, it's like, shit, go anywhere. That's what everybody's doing.
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. That's, I mean, if you're up for 12 hours, it's 25% of the day.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It wasn't a thousand years, man. It was like, I mean, I, it was way, it was within our lifetime.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
It's, it's, uh, this stuff all just scares the hell out of me. I mean, I think psychedelics plays a role in all this, you know, in, in, in accessing, you know, other information and,
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Dude, do you want to hear the best story I've ever heard from that? So I got one of my best friends, former Green Beret, worked with him at the agency for a long time. He was blown up, survived like the worst fucking car bomb I've ever seen. Like got up, walked away, dude's head's like right next to the car. Then gets out.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I don't want to mention his name because I'm going to bring up some symptoms. But then he got fucking shot in the head by a 38 special round in the middle of the road and survived it. And I've stayed with him through this whole process. Anyways, couldn't walk without a cane. Was bedridden five, six days out of every week. Hadn't had sex with his wife in over two fucking years.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Couldn't go outside without sunglasses on because of the light sensitivity. And I'd been telling him, hey, you need to, dude, you have to go down and like do this Ibogaine thing. Nothing else is working. I think this shit's going to change. I wasn't even aware of all this stuff. I knew about the bedridden stuff and But he was hiding a lot of that shit from me, and his wife got and called me.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so I got him piped in to this program, went down, did Ibogaine, and did 5-MeO, left his fucking cane there, went home, banged his wife, doesn't need the sunglasses anymore. And is not bedridden. And that was about six months ago. And I just talked to him the other day. He's still, like, good to go.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And, dude, this shit happened, like, when did he, I bet it was four years. Four years of, like, living through that shit. I mean, cracked skull.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
One Ibogaine treatment, done. I was like, do you think you'll go back and see if more benefits show up? And he was like, no, I'm not going to do it. But he's like, not unless I start to slip. But he's like, I'm good. I'm at peace. I feel fucking great.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yep. You know? And... I mean, even mine, like, I haven't drank in almost three years now. Really? Yeah, I just... I went down and did the Ibogaine experience, and, like, it was just like, have you done Ibogaine? No. Why not?
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#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. Well, there it is right there, right? I kind of drank it almost three years, but... I mean, it was, like, do you want, like, the whole experience? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I went down to Mexico, and I just kept having these guys come on my show, and the first one was Eddie Gallagher. He was talking about psychedelics, and I was like, oh, no, that shit's for hippies.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And then, you know, the one that really got me was I had this guy on, his name DJ Shipley, and he, like— I saw that one.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, it's great. Dude, DJ's a fucking beast, bro. Yeah, I follow that guy on Instagram now.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Like, takes Navy SEAL to a whole different level. But anyways, but yeah, he, like, went out of his way after we recorded, and he was like, hey, dude, like—
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
you should really fucking think about going down there and um I was like all right well you know I've done all the I've done like a ton of research I've talked to a bunch of guys about it I understand like how it works now and so fuck it I'll go and so I went down there because uh I just wanted to be more in the moment with my with my family I got two little kids now and I
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so I went down there and that was like I felt like I was kind of like through the PTSD type stuff and and maybe not. But but I would I just wanted to get rid of anxiety and be in the moment with my family and did it ended up.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so I went down and did the Ibogaine thing, and we took these pills, and, like, I didn't get a lot of visuals, but the first visual I got was I was just sitting there, like, looking in this mirror, shaking this fucking maraca, and my head's, like, I was like, all right, this shit is not working. Well, then my head, like, it, like, split open like a,
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, dude. It was like, I watched my head, like, peel like a fucking banana. Like, it was just like, whoosh. And then another head, like, just blossomed out of it. Whoa. Yeah, it was really odd. And then I was like, all right, it's definitely fucking kicking in, so I'm going to... I'm going to lay back.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And it was kind of – to me, like the whole experience maybe – I guess I just lost total concept of time. It didn't feel – it was like 12 hours, but it didn't feel like 12 hours. It didn't really feel like five minutes either. But I got like this life review kind of thing. and just had these TV screens. It looked like all black, like you're in space or something.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And then these two lines of TV screens that were going in my peripheral vision And what was playing in those TV screens was, and it was moving, like, at kind of a slow pace. And so, like, I could see what was going on in the TV screens through my peripheral. But if I tried to concentrate on any one particular thing, then they would, like, all just disappear until I stopped trying to focus.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
like concentrate on one thing and then they'd all appear again and i could like look at it through my peripheral and i'd i'd be like oh you know that was uh that was in baghdad that's when i was five years old and my dad was like yelling at me and that was this and it was like but it wasn't like i wasn't like reliving um traumatic events they were it was just like passing me by. Like a recording.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah. And, um, so I just let him like pass. And then I went into some other stage, which I don't really understand, but it was a bunch of like these walls of stuffed animals. And I was kind of like going through this maze. And then like the last thing I talked about before I, I, uh, before I did the experience was China. So then I had like this horrible thing about the Chinese invasion.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
But what came out of that, like it's like, oh, well, that doesn't sound very good. Well, yeah, what came out of that, I lost 11 pounds in literally one week. It's a week-long type of experience. I lost 11 fucking pounds. It's also a heavy metals detoxer, by the way, so that's probably –
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
probably had like some heavy metals blocking me up or something but um though the i the whites of my eyes like cleared up like and it wasn't just me i'd like journaled all this shit down and then i didn't tell my wife any of this stuff and i came home and she's like
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
uh your eyes look like a lot lighter like the whites look a lot lighter whiter and and and my brown eyes looked like they had lightened up huh yeah and then it was also like i had realized every everything that i was ingesting that was poison it was like this going back to intuition it was like this intuition of like i just i was like you know i didn't come
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I didn't go down there to quit drinking. It just fucking happened, man. I was just like, I don't think I'm going to drink anymore. So I haven't had a drink in, like I said, just under three years. Do you think you had a drinking problem? Oh, fuck yeah, man. I had a drinking problem. Big drinking problem. But you didn't think it at the time. Well, my drinking problem had digressed quite a bit.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
So, I mean, I used to. I used to. Drink close to two-fifths of vodka a day. Whoa. Yeah. But, you know, then that was coming out of the agency. I didn't have anything to do, really. And, you know, I was processing a lot of kind of what had happened over the past 14 years. I didn't have any friends. I was severely depressed. Whatever, man. Loved to party. You know, and that just, it was wake up.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
drink many bottles of vodka all day long. And then, uh, at night, you know, I'd crack a fifth. But by the time, by the time I went, uh, there, it was, it was like a, probably two bottles of wine instead of two bottles of vodka at night.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Well, I mean, that's, yeah, it is. But, um, anyways, uh, came back and I just didn't want the wine anymore. I used to take Adderall. I was addicted to that. Didn't need that. Didn't need this ambient anymore. Didn't need anything. Cold turkey. Cold turkey, man. Weed. Quit weed for about six months and then... And then, yeah, then I went back. But – and even sugar, man.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I quit sugar for about six months. And it was – you know, the funny thing is, man, like it was zero effort. It wasn't like I'm not fucking drinking and I'm not going to do sugar and I'm not going to smoke weed and no more Adderall. I just didn't want it. And there was no – There was just no urge. There was no addiction left. It was gone. Wow.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
He was a cool dude, man. He was a cool dude. That would have been a hell of an interview.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because they say it's like the one that you would... You can't get addicted to. Honestly, I don't think I could get addicted to any of them, but...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, it's fucking working. Yeah. I mean, it's working, and it's just... Like, why? Why? Why? Why? Why can't you, like, let us... I'm speaking, you know, for the veteran population right now. But like, why just why can't you just let us fucking get better? Right. Like everybody knows the 22 a day, you know, which is actually like 40 something a day veterans that are killing themselves.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And this shit is a fucking game changer. But I don't think big pharma is going to allow it. I think that's what the holdup is.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, it's – I don't know, man. I mean, it's – there's just – There's so much that goes into this, like that first shooter, right? What was he, 20 years old? Yeah. You know, 20 years old. Then you got, you know, Trump's basically been in the media for, what, about eight years. I think he showed up, what, about a year before the 2016 election, right? Kind of went in.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
So we're going on, what, eight years now of the media just – slamming him over and over he's a threat to democracy this is going to ruin the country you know so if you take that 20 year old i mean eight so he's since he was 12 years old that's all he's heard yeah 12 fucking years old that's all he's heard and little kids have no ability to discern
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
So is it a very well orchestrated act to kill him or is it media manipulation that nobody really thought too far into this and now it's all – now we're seeing the consequences of what that kind of – pushing an agenda like that will do?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I don't know where this ends, man. I mean, part of me thinks, you know, it's just, it's part of me thinks we're just going to, end in some type of a civil war. That's terrifying. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I mean, I think we're kind of already there. It's just going to look a lot different. It's a cold war, right? You know?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You see these states banding together. Mm-hmm. You know, you see blue states spanning together. You see bright states spanning together. You see, you know, a lot of governors aligning, sending National Guard down here to Texas, you know, to try to secure the border. You got, you know, these extreme... Look, I don't – whether you agree with me or not, they're extreme.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so like the abortion stuff, like you got states that are making these like super harsh abortion laws like we're going to hunt you down if you get one and throw your ass in prison. And I think – I can't remember how many states now have passed constitutional carries like – I can't remember. I think there's only like a state or two left that need constitutional carry.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
But I mean, I think basically what I'm getting at is I think the lines are kind of like being...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
drawn right now or the alliances are kind of forming up like hey let's pass these super uh super red laws these super left law or blue laws and and it'll drive everybody out of the state that we won and it'll do you know what i'm getting i do know you know i think this is all like kind of happening naturally
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I think one way would just be having podcasters and journalists – I mean, how the fuck would you do this? But one thing on my show, and I kind of went off the rails a little bit the last month, I got a little probably more political than I wanted. I hate politics, man. Yeah, me too. They come up all the time.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Every time I dive in, I feel like I fucked a hooker on a rusty couch. I don't think this shit's gonna wash off me now. You know what I'm talking about? I do, I do, I do. But anyways, where I was going is, people have just lost the fucking ability to think for themselves. They can't critical think anymore.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
So one thing that I do on mine is if I bring somebody on that's, I'm like, don't say Trump 500 times on my show. Let's not say like, fuck the left, fuck the right. Like, let's not say these fucking Democrats and these fucking Republicans. Like, just just give me the policy. Just give me the problem. Just like, let's just leave all that shit out.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Yeah, because if you leave all that, all those adjectives out, then it forces people to go. Well, shit, I don't really know. It forces them to formulate their own opinion because they don't know what their side thinks about that particular issue. Unless you're talking about abortion or something like that. But you know what I mean?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
If you leave that out of... If you can leave those adjectives out, then I think common sense will start to make a comeback because it won't be so tribal. It will be like, well... Actually, I don't really I don't I don't know where the party that I align with stands on this. So I'm going to have to formulate my own fucking opinion here. And man, that would do wonders.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Well, I used to teach weapons and tactics. And I taught Keanu Reeves for John Wick 3. And... And then I got a lot of hate. I'll just put it that way. I got a lot of hate, uh, from, from the, from the special operations community, from the two way community. And, um, and I was like, you know what, man, like it's very egocentric community anyways.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And so I was like, I'm, I'm like fucking done with this shit. And, uh, So I just started – dude, I didn't know what to do. I was like doing camping stove reviews and I bought a bunch of fucking alpacas and put them in my front yard and I thought I was going to be a farmer and like – yeah. And then – but you know what I did? I was like – I was like, dude –
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I'm so fucking tired of, like, my guys killing themselves and going into depression and suicide attempts. And I got sick of the same talking heads on TV kind of documenting what was going on over there. It was a bunch of people who had never even stepped foot. in any of those war zones documenting what happened over there.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
So I just started and I built like, I don't know, maybe 250,000 subs on YouTube from like gun stuff. And so I started I was like, I got to one, we got to document the history to there's a major fucking suicide epidemic happening. So let's talk about some guys that had had attempted.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I was I mean, I tried to kill myself, but let's let's get some guys that have really been through it, dug themselves out of it. And and and let's so it's so it's we're documenting history the way it happened. We are talking about the veteran crisis that's going on and how people got out of it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And then at the end of every episode was, hey, let's talk about your business because it's stories what sell. So let's do the whole story and get everybody super attached to you. Let's document the history, talk about your vulnerabilities, what it was like re-transitioning back into civilian life.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
how fucked up it was, how you ruined your family, how you tried to kill yourself, all that shit, how you came out of it. And then let's talk about your business. And so, I mean, these guys would come on and, and, uh, you know, their business would like jet launch overnight, which I'm sure you, you know, um, but, and that, I just, dude, I just like doing it. I liked fucking helping people.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And I, and, uh, and, uh, But I'll tell you, like I started – it was awesome. I loved it. I still – there's nothing else I'd rather do. I started feeling a lot of resentment to my guests because they would come on my show and then they would like pass me up business-wise like that. And I was like, fuck, man, like, what the fuck do I have to do to make a business out of this shit?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Like, I'm great at, like, jet launching everybody else's shit, but I'm not making any fucking money here, and I got a family to support, and this isn't going to work out. And then I don't know what happened, man, but then something just, like, switched. Like, God just stepped in and was like, you're doing good shit, like, I'm going to I'm going to bless you.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
And and I just like hit a turning point. And now I just talk to whoever I'm interested in.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I can't do it. There's no reason to do it. Yeah, you know, when I started, we started in the attic. It was me and my wife.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
We had these shit cameras that had, like, 30-minute timers, so Mike Glover was my first guest, and so my wife was, like, running back and forth, resetting these 30-minute fucking timer cameras, and I'm trying to run the sound and listen to what the hell Mike's saying, and I'm like, this is fucking awesome.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
I started, first one got pumped out Christmas of 2019. Wow.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
Thank you. Thank you. Well, I studied the hell out of your show when I was doing it. And, you know, I wanted to – I just wanted to make it different. I didn't want to copy the red curtain and – you know what I mean? You made it yours.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2207 - Shawn Ryan
You know, I mean, you know what bothers me about the whole camp is nobody, none of these camps like talk to each other. Right. It's my camp knows everything.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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It basically felt like I was surrendering to evil and and I was trying to convince myself to be fine with it. So we're staying in this nice resort in Sedona. They had a guarded gate and I pay attention to that kind of stuff because of my background. And a lot of the guys knew me that worked in there for from from my podcast and and wanted to talk. Well, this we're there for a week.
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The last day I walk through and it's this old, old man in there and he's wanting to talk to me. Me and my wife had gone up to a hike because I was like, I just got to get the hell out of here. Maybe a hike will make me feel better. Walk back down and and this guy starts trying to talk to me. It's dark at this point. I had already kind of surrendered like I'm done.
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i didn't feel good but i kind of made my decision like i'm not doing this anymore and um i'm kind of looking at him over the shoulder like i'm i'm not in the mood to like strike up a conversation and but my wife starts talking to him and i'm like shit i just want to go to my room so i turn around and this guy this guy read my mind from front to back. And I mean, like I've never had that happen.
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It wasn't, I mean, it was descriptive. It scared the shit out of me because I was like, how are you in my head? And he started rattling off all these thoughts that I was having on that entire hike. And he's like, this stuff that's going on in China, that's not your fight anymore. And this stuff that's going on with the kids, that's not your fight either.
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And this stuff that's going on with the trans community, that's not your fight anymore. and i my i had shut down i was like well how was this guy in my head right now so freaked me out we're walking back to to our bungalow we were in a place where it was like kind of like a duplex and um we're on one side somebody else on another side we got there we got when we got to sedona uh
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My best friend that I was referring to earlier, his name's Gabe. He died of a heroin overdose later on. But Gabe was a SEAL. Gabe was a pro hockey player. Gabe was a fighter. We was into MMA. Gabe was at the agency with me. And no matter where Gabe was, Gabe was always known as a protector. Like no matter what unit he was in, no matter what, Who he was with could be the manliest of all men.
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Like, everybody knows Gabe has got you. And he was my best friend. Well, we get there, and we see this guy, and he looks identical. He could be Gabe's identical twin. I mean, you could see differences, but same brow line, same jaw line, same build, same walk, same three-day shadow, same everything. Muscular. And me and my wife are both like, man, that looks exactly like Gabe.
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And everywhere we would go, this guy was at. If we were at the pool, this guy was at the pool. If we were going on a hike, this guy was coming back from a hike. If we were out in town getting dinner, he was out in town getting dinner. And we had always thought it was weird because I kind of had a breakdown on the plane to Sonona. And so I was in a vulnerable spot. My wife knew it.
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I was in a vulnerable spot. I knew it. I was with my buddy Dave and he knew it. And it was just odd that Gabe, who's always known as a protector, is like every this guy that looks identical to him is everywhere. Well, it turns out right from that gate, we walked to. our bungalow. And it turns out this guy and his family is staying right across the, the thing from us.
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And we hadn't seen him all week. And I'm like, that was weird. And on the way back, I'm telling Katie, I'm like, holy shit. Like, I think, I think that was God that was reading my mind. And she's like, yeah, Sean, that was God. And I'm like, I can't believe this. Like, how is this happening? And, and she's like, Sean, God's always been around you. You just don't make time for them.
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And I knew that to be true. So we get to the bungalow. Gabe's staying across the way or the lookalike, whatever you want to call it. We find out he's staying right across. This is all within like 10, 15 minutes. Then we go in and I am...
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i'm crying and i'm like i can't believe this is happening and right before also right before we went to zona uh a good friend of mine uh his name was dan cirillo died uh he was kind of the only he was a seal uh and a businessman and he lived in franklin and i don't have a lot of people that i can relate to uh where I live now in Franklin. And Dan is one of those guys that...
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he's very successful. He owned a couple of hospitals. He owned a, a, a big security business. And he's like one of the few people that I can sit down with and talk business and talk friends. And he doesn't need anything from me and I don't need anything from him. And those, you know, those relationships get hard to come by. And, uh, so we hit it off really fast.
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And then he died on a hunting trip with his son, had a heart attack. And, um, and, uh, but Hey, I mean that if there's a way to go, uh, good on him. But, uh, anyways, his daughter who I had never met, I'm having this breakdown in the, in the hotel and, uh, his daughter, I heard my phone go, go off while I was talking to Katie.
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And as soon as we kind of finished what we were talking about, about what was going on, I checked my phone and it's from his daughter and, and, uh, It's this text. I'd never even met her before. And she says, she must have got my number from her dad's phone. And she said, hey, Sean, this is Taylor, Dan's daughter.
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And I just walked into my dad's gun room for the first time since he had passed away. And he grabbed me by the arm and told me that I needed to contact you because you knew a side of him that nobody else knew. And that he wanted me to tell you that he loves you just the way that you are and that you're doing exactly what you should be doing. And then...
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uh, I'm trying not to lose it right now, but, um, but, uh, so that was like the third thing all within, like I said, 10, 15 minutes. And I was like, Holy shit. Like there's no to die on this one. And, uh, and, uh, yeah. And so, you know, I grew up Catholic and never really took church seriously. Uh, I never did. And then when I left home, I never really went back and had kind of lost faith.
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And I'm not saying I wasn't a believer. I just didn't really care. I didn't think about it. And I had definitely no time for God. And so I took that as a, I mean, that was like a slap in the face. And I, I decided I needed to get serious about faith and at least look into it. And so I started looking into it and, and it's, and it's been great.
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And, and, you know, to be honest, it's the only thing I can find that makes any damn sense anymore. And it's all, it's all in that book. Everything we're seeing happening right now is in that book.
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I did. I did. I started trying to read it from front to back and, and, uh, I wasn't really getting anywhere.
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Yeah. But then turns out, as it turns out, my entire team, I'm really close with my team, my podcast team, the guys that work for me and make it what it is.
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and uh turns out one guy's was raised southern baptist super well versed in the bible my editor darren uh grew up a jehovah's witness and uh escaped escaped it but but knows i mean knows that book from front to back um my it guy adam uh devout catholic knows it all everything elijah my production manager he's the southern baptist guy
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and they kind of started pouring into me and and a lot of my buddies that were in the seal teams uh eddie penny really kind of paved the way for all of this i think uh eddie penny was uh we were team two together and then he went on to dev group and uh just like oh ma like i mean
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not who you would expect to come to faith but he was my christmas episode a couple years ago and ever since he came on and gave his testimony of how he came to everybody that's been on the show has brought it up and um and he became kind of a mentor of mine so i called eddie and told him and i said hey this is what happened really know where to start. I don't really know what this means.
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And we had a conversation. And he goes, who he was like, Oh, man, he's like, a lot of us have been praying for this to happen.
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And that kind of freaked me out. I was like, well, what do you mean? And he's like, we've been waiting for this. He's like, you have a big voice and this needs to happen. And so that was at about midnight. Now I'm getting into some other kind of weird synchronicity coincidences. And so about 12 hours later, I had a meeting that Adam, my IT guy, had scheduled with me at noon. And
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eddie was telling eddie was telling me during the conversation he was he was talking about guardian angels and all this other stuff that was spiritual warfare stuff that i know like nothing about well fast forward 12 hours i'm talking to adam i didn't know what this meeting i thought it was about email marketing or something and uh he wanted to talk to me about spiritual warfare and guardian angels wow and i was like
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It was literally like almost the exact same conversation as I had had with Eddie Penny.
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And they're not friends. I mean, Adam is with all due respect.
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Eddie is a built like a shit brick house, a dev group operator. And Adam is a it computer nerd who I love to death. And, uh, so no, they don't, they don't, there's no cross pollination. They're not friends. I've never spoken exact same conversation at noon, come home for lunch from my studio to be with the wife and kids. And, um, Adam, uh, And anyways, I go back to work.
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I look at my clock in my truck and it says it's 444. I look at the odometer. It says 444 miles left to E. And this is four hours and 44 minutes after my conversation with Adam about guardian angels. So I look up the meaning of 444 and it is your guardian angels want you to know that they have got you. And
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i'm just i'm like holy man like we just had two conversations about guardian angels and now i'm seeing 444 everywhere within gabe yeah and and and it's in the meaning of it supposedly according to google is your guardian angels want you to know that they've got you And and so I've been in it ever since. And and I've had some great mentors and started going to church that didn't last very long.
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And and now we have we have a group of there's four families, including us, a lot of trust, very close friends of ours. And we we just have a discussion every week, every every Tuesday. So when I get home today, that's that's that's what we're doing. And it's cool. You get to ask the tough questions. You don't need to be embarrassed. You're not going to offend anybody.
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You don't feel judged like you're going to church. You know, I always feel like I'm being judged.
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Built in. And there's none of that. And, man, you know, when you kind of take all of the BS that religion kind of injects into your journey of building a relationship with the Creator and Jesus, It's really interesting and it can be a lot of fun.
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Really?
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Well, I'll give my opinion to myself. Why? The middleman is a lie. There are no middlemen. It's just about you and your relationship. And that's it. I'll let you know that. And when you think like that, I mean, it gives me a sense of peace, you know? And then you start looking at all the stuff that's going on, like Trans Visibility Day being declared on Easter Sunday.
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Like, you can't tell me these aren't signs, you know? And this is all, like I said, this is all in there. I'm still reading through it. I'm not through it all yet. I don't claim to be an expert, but...
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but you know i see things i have a team to lean on who's well versed in this stuff and very fortunate and uh and it's everything we're seeing happen is in that book and when you can when you come to that realization it's really odd but all the stuff that like all the stuff that was bothering me and it still does bother me
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but at the same time, it makes me stronger because up that was supposed to happen, you know, up that's in that book up like really like trans visibility day, a confusion of genders on Easter Sunday, making a mockery of the resurrection. Like that was in there.
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And, uh,
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Definitely. I mean, I'm at peace with it. I mean, I'm still going to fight the good fight and I'm still going to bring truth and uncover corruption and tell these stories and I'm not going to bend a knee to anything and...
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and but you know it it but seeing it all happen it's it is actually making me stronger because i found something in a world of nothing that makes any sense at all not a damn bit of sense this makes all the sense in the world it's it aligns with the values that i've always had or maybe i align with its values you know but um
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but it yeah it's helped me and uh and then you start learning about you know maybe forgiveness is for you and not for the people that
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did something bad to you that was unjust you know it's it's it's for your sense of peace not for theirs you know you can you can go on and waste all that bad energy hating somebody and talking about them and you know complaining you know i got screwed over and i'm a victim but the minute you forgive them that's off your plate and it just it it's it's it's like a cleanse
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Yeah.
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You know, I grew up Catholic and never really took church seriously. I never did. And then when I left home, I never really went back and had kind of lost faith. And I'm not saying I wasn't a believer. I just didn't really care. I didn't think about it. And I had definitely no time for God. And so I took that as a, I mean, that was like a slap in the face.
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And I, I decided I needed to get serious about faith and at least look into it. And so I started looking into it and, and it's, and it's been great. And, and, you know, and to be honest, it's the only thing I can find that makes any damn sense anymore. And it's all, it's all in that book. Everything we're seeing happening right now is in that book.
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I did. I did. I started trying to read it from front to back and, and, uh, I wasn't really getting anywhere.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. But then turns out, as it turns out, my entire team, I'm really close with my team, my podcast team, the guys that work for me and make it what it is. And it turns out one guy was raised Southern Baptist, super well-versed in the Bible. My editor, Darren, grew up a Jehovah's Witness and escaped it, but knows that book from front to back. My IT guy, Adam, devout Catholic, knows it all.
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Everything, Elijah, my production manager, he's the Southern Baptist guy. and they kind of started pouring into me and and a lot of my buddies that were in the seal teams uh eddie penny really kind of paved the way for all of this i think uh eddie penny was a we were team two together and then he went on to dev group and uh just like oh ma like i mean
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not who you would expect to come to faith but he was my christmas episode a couple years ago and ever since he came on and gave his testimony of how he came to everybody that's been on the show has brought it up and um and he became kind of a mentor of mine so i called eddie and told him and i said hey this is what happened really know where to start. I don't really know what this means.
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And we had a conversation and he goes, he was like, oh man, he's like, a lot of us have been praying for this to happen.
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And that kind of freaked me out. I was like, well, what do you mean? And he's like, we've been waiting for this. He's like, you have a big voice and this needs to happen. And so that was at about midnight. Now I'm getting into some other kind of weird synchronicity coincidences. And so about 12 hours later, I had a meeting that Adam, my IT guy, had scheduled with me at noon. And
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Eddie was telling me during the conversation, he was talking about guardian angels and all this other stuff that was spiritual warfare, stuff that I know like nothing about. Well, fast forward 12 hours, I'm talking to Adam. I didn't know what this meeting was. I thought it was about email marketing or something. And he wanted to talk to me about spiritual warfare and guardian angels.
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And I was like... It was literally like almost the exact same conversation as I had had with Eddie Penny.
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And they're not friends. I mean, Adam is with all due respect.
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Eddie is built like a shit brick house, a dev group operator, and Adam is a IT computer nerd, who I love to death. And so, no, they don't... There's no cross-pollination. They're not friends. They've never spoken. Exact same conversation at noon. Come home for lunch from my studio to be with the wife and kids. And Adam... And anyways, I go back to work.
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I look at my clock in my truck, and it says it's 444. I look at the odometer. It says 444 miles left to E. And this is four hours and 44 minutes after my conversation with Adam about guardian angels. So I look up the meaning of 444, and it is your guardian angels want you to know that they have got you. And I'm just, I'm like, holy shit, man.
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Like we just had two conversations about guardian angels and now I'm seeing four 44 everywhere within Gabe. Yeah. And, and, and it's in the meaning of it, supposedly according to Google is your guardian angels want you to know that they've got you. And, um, And so I've been in it ever since, and I've had some great mentors and started going to church. That didn't last very long.
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And now we have a group of, there's four families, including us, a lot of trust, very close friends of ours. And we just have a discussion every week, every Tuesday. So when I get home today, that's what we're doing. And- It's cool. You get to ask the tough questions. You don't need to be embarrassed. You're not going to offend anybody. You don't feel judged like you're going to church.
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You know, I always feel like I'm being judged.
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Yeah. Built in. And there's none of that. And man, you know, when you kind of take all of the BS that religion kind of injects into and of your journey of building relationship with the creator and Jesus, it's really interesting and it can be a lot of fun.
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Really?
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Well, I'll keep my opinion to myself. Why? The middleman is a lie. There are no middlemen. It's just about you and your relationship. And that's it. I'll let you know that. And when you think like that, I mean, it gives me a sense of peace, you know? And then you start looking at all the stuff that's going on, like Transvisibility Day being declared on Easter Sunday.
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Like, you can't tell me these aren't signs, you know? And this is all, like I said, this is all in there. I'm still reading through it. I'm not through it all yet. I don't claim to be an expert, but... But, you know, I see things. I have a team to lean on who's well-versed in this stuff. That was very fortunate. And it's everything we're seeing happen is in that book.
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And when you come to that realization, it's really odd. But all the stuff that was bothering me, and it still does bother me, Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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I'll give my opinion to myself. Why? The middleman is a lie. There are no middlemen.