Shawn Ryan Show
#175 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - The Nicotine Debate, Aging Conspiracies and Living to 100
Mon, 24 Feb 2025
Dr. Gabrielle Lyon is a board-certified family physician and founder of the Institute of Muscle-Centric Medicine, emphasizing skeletal muscle for health and longevity. She holds a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine and completed fellowships in nutritional sciences and geriatrics. Dr. Lyon advocates for high-quality protein diets, resistance training, and personalized wellness, serving diverse populations from elite military operators to health-conscious individuals. Her expertise has been showcased in Muscle and Fitness, Women’s Health, and Harper’s Bazaar. Dr. Lyon also hosts "The Dr. Gabrielle Lyon Show," a podcast covering health education and wellness with insights from various experts on nutrition, exercise, and mental well-being. She authored the New York Times best-selling book “Forever Strong: A New, Science-Based Strategy for Aging Well”. Through her YouTube channel and social media presence, Dr. Lyon inspires strength training and nutritional health prioritization. Her initiatives aim to encourage individuals to recognize strength training and nutrition as essential for a vibrant life. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://ShawnLikesGold.com | 855-936-GOLD #goldcopartner http://shopify.com/srs http://ziprecruiter.com/srs https://bunkr.life/ | Use Code SRS https://americanfinancing.net/srs NMLS 182334, nmlsconsumeraccess.org http://trueclassic.com/srs Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @trueclassic at trueclassic.com/SRS! #trueclassicpod https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/SRS Dr. Gabrielle Lyon Links: Website - https://drgabriellelyon.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/drgabriellelyon/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/doctorgabriellelyon LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-gabrielle-lyon-00175a1a8/ YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@drgabriellelyon Forever Strong - https://a.co/d/elVhCYi Please leave us a review on Apple & Spotify Podcasts. Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website | Patreon | TikTok | Instagram | Download Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is Dr. Gabrielle Lyon and what is her medical philosophy?
Dr. Gabrielle Lyons, welcome to the show.
Thank you so much for having me.
Dude, we've been trying to get this thing done for, I think, has it been over a year now?
Yep, now here we are.
You're a busy woman.
I mean, there was a tornado or a hurricane or something, and... Kids. It's a whole thing.
Yeah. But, well, I got a whole slew of stuff I want to chat with you about. And, you know, we just added another topic right before the camera started rolling. Cancer scares the hell out of me. It's like every day, every day I get a text from somebody else that knows somebody that died of cancer, that just got diagnosed with cancer. Yeah. It's like it's like my biggest fear.
I just I Never want to get that fucking diagnosis.
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Chapter 2: Why is early cancer detection important?
You know that you can screen for it very robustly. I'm scared to do that No, we're doing it We are doing it. I'm gonna tell you why I actually sent you a paper right before we came on the show I published a paper with my husband actually who is a urology resident on bladder cancer and military exposures and So I would say that military operators have higher rates of cancer.
We're talking about cancer as if it's one thing. There are various types of cancer. The good news is there are very robust screening tools. For example, full-body MRI scans. I'm sure you've heard of the Prunovo scan. What is it? Prunovo scan, have you heard of that?
No.
Full body MRI scan, should definitely be doing that.
Really?
Yes. And also something called the gallery test. We became very interested in this because of operators. Early detection cancer, if you can detect cancers early enough, you can initiate treatment. And so the GRAIL, originally in cancer research, it was called the GRAIL, now the Gallery Test, that is available to people through their provider. Early detection is critical.
You know, me and my wife had a conversation about this because we were going to do it. I was, like, getting screened. Yes. And I was going to go with this foundation. I can't remember the name of it, but there's a foundation that does a bunch of military guys, and I was going to go with them. And then we were going to have Katie do it, too. And she was like...
We were both hesitant, but she had mentioned something, and she's like, okay, so what if one of us gets a diagnosis and it can't be treated? Then that changes our entire life right now.
I think it's a good thought.
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Chapter 3: How can injuries be prevented as we age?
I've been seeing patients for almost two decades and not quite two decades, but... maybe close to 15 years or a little over, there are through lines that you see of individuals that are able to become very successful, not just from a business perspective, but as humans. And a physician's job is to recognize patterns, typically patterns of diseases.
But there are very particular attributes or patterns of individuals that I think... allow for them to become the best version of themselves. And I have just seen similarity after similarity. And one which may be surprising is a level of neutrality. They're neutral. Things are going great. Things are going terrible. They're even. They never get too high. They never get too low.
They're very neutral. And the individuals that are able to maintain a neutral mind seem to be the ones that have the most success.
Are you like that?
I definitely have a level of neutrality. Absolutely. Because I know what happens if you get too excited or too pumped up. Basically, what I see over time, and I've obviously seen within myself, and you've probably experienced, that let's say you had a big event.
as high as you go for that big event, as amped up as you're gonna be, you're gonna go give a talk, you're gonna get out there, will be as low as you fall. So it's this kind of dopamine swing. You see individuals that will release a book or that will make millions of dollars because of a deal that they closed, or they'll have a major event in Las Vegas, whatever it is.
These people get ready for the high and they're chasing the high and they're getting so excited. And again, I see this in my patients. They get so amped up that at the pinnacle of being amped up right before the event, right before the book release, right before the major show that comes off or comes out, whatever that is, is a point of vulnerability.
And they will continue to chase the high, make bad decisions, increase risk-taking behavior. Let's say you're someone who likes to buy a car. Right at that pinnacle, you're going to go out to purchase. You'll do something to continue to drive that high. But what's so fascinating is at that point of vulnerability, when people are at their peak, you never think about
doing this amazing thing, and right at that peak is where you're vulnerable. But as high as you go in emotion and success, as high as you allow yourself to go, is as low as you fall.
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