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Ep. 2188 - Canada Veers LEFT: Ugly Trudeau Wins!

Tue, 29 Apr 2025

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Liberal Mark Carney wins the Canadian elections, overcoming an enormous lead for the conservatives back in December; President Trump faces down threats from Russia, Iran, and China; and the White House unleashes new measures on illegal immigration. Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://bit.ly/3WDjgHE Ep.2188 - - - Facts Don’t Care About Your Feelings - - - DailyWire+: It’s our first-ever 100-Hour DailyWire+ FLASH SALE! To celebrate President Trump’s first 100 days and the beginning of America’s golden era, use CODE: DW100 and join the fight. The hit podcast, Morning Wire, is now on Video! Watch Now and subscribe to their YouTube channel: https://bit.ly/3RFOVo6 Get your Ben Shapiro merch here: https://bit.ly/3TAu2cw - - - Today's Sponsors: Perplexity is an AI-powered answer engine that searches the internet to deliver fast, unbiased, high-quality answers, with sources and in-line citations. Ask Perplexity anything here: https://pplx.ai/benshapiro PureTalk - Switch to PureTalk and start saving today! Visit https://PureTalk.com/SHAPIRO IFCJ - Bring comfort and relief to Israel and her people by donating at https://BenForTheFellowship.org LifeLock - Join now and save up to 40% your first year. Call 1 (800) LifeLock and use promo code BEN or go to https://LifeLock.com/BEN for 40% off. Terms apply. American Investment Council - Learn more about the American Investment Council and private equity at https://investmentcouncil.org - - - Socials: Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3cXUn53 Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3QtuibJ Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3TTirqd Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPyBiB

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Chapter 1: What happened in the recent Canadian election and who won?

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It's up to people like you and me to help build the future of the country. Head on over to dailywire.com. Use code DW100 to join the fight. All right, so the big news as of today is the election in Canada. So you'll recall that if you go all the way back to December when Justin Trudeau, i.e.

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handsome Bernie Sanders, was the prime minister of Canada, the Liberal Party in Canada was in a state of complete electoral collapse. The polls showed that the Conservative Party, led by Pierre Poliev, who was in fact a good candidate, was winning. The Conservative Party was winning by 25 points over Justin Trudeau. The Liberal Party was in a state of absolute meltdown.

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And then Justin Trudeau dropped out and the polls started to come together really, really quickly. So last night, the election result, Mark Carney, who replaced Justin Trudeau, you can call him ugly Justin Trudeau.

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So basically, if Justin Trudeau is handsome Bernie Sanders and Mark Carney is ugly Justin Trudeau, his Liberals are now projected to win the Canadian election, according to the Wall Street Journal. They were set to win a fourth term in national elections on Monday, fourth consecutive term. So, I mean, well done on you guys, Canada.

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Chapter 2: How did Justin Trudeau's departure affect the Canadian election outcome?

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Oh boy, you make some choices you're going to have to live with up there. It wasn't clear whether the Liberals would actually win a majority of seats or a smaller share that would require them to win support from other parties to govern. That'd make a very large difference, by the way.

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If they only have enough seats in the Canadian parliament that they have to form a coalition with another party, that still leaves them vulnerable to the possibility of some sort of vote of no confidence in the future. If, however, they have a pretty solid majority in the parliament, then you get four years of Mark Carney up in Canada.

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Carney is the former head of the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England. He is like a World Bank IMF guy. He is very much in line with the sort of Green New Deal, relatively open borders, Justin Trudeau policy. His expected victory, says the Wall Street Journal, is a remarkable one for a party headed for defeat at the start of the year.

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Again, the conservatives had a more than 20 point lead in January. And a lot of that was because of Justin Trudeau's mismanagement, anger over inflation, high housing costs, immigration, insane social leftism. And then something happened. And the thing that happened essentially was that Justin Trudeau dropped out.

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So there are two conflicting arguments about what exactly happened in this election cycle. Argument number one is that Trudeau dropping out alone would have propelled the liberals to victory. That basically, the liberal party did what the Democratic Party did in the last election cycle. They took their bad candidate, flipped in a new, fresh candidate, and then ran for victory.

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And it's a very short election cycle because Carney, upon entering, declared, you could see that there was a boost in the polls, he declared a snap election, which meant that there was only about six weeks between the declaration of the election and the actual election. That's how the system works over there when you...

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are in power, you can declare a new election, essentially, dissolve your own government. So the question is whether Justin Trudeau dropping out alone would have been enough to push the liberals to victory, or whether it was a combination of Justin Trudeau dropping out and President Trump's incessant, continuous, and aggressive attacks on America's top hat up in Canada.

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My theory is pretty much number two, that President Trump obviously had something to do with the results of the Canadian election. So sure, obviously it makes a huge difference if you swap out the very unpopular Justin Trudeau for a cipher, a non-entity like Mark Carney. And Carney, to his credit, ran a little bit more as a moderate on issues like immigration or even on the economy.

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He suggested he wasn't going to raise taxes. He was going to mildly lower the taxes in Canada But the big election issue in Canada was not any more inflation or fiscal mismanagement in Canada, which is what Poliev had been running on.

Chapter 3: What role did President Trump's policies play in the Canadian election?

Chapter 4: What are the implications of Mark Carney's leadership for Canada?

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And it's a very short election cycle because Carney, upon entering, declared, you could see that there was a boost in the polls, he declared a snap election, which meant that there was only about six weeks between the declaration of the election and the actual election. That's how the system works over there when you...

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are in power, you can declare a new election, essentially, dissolve your own government. So the question is whether Justin Trudeau dropping out alone would have been enough to push the liberals to victory, or whether it was a combination of Justin Trudeau dropping out and President Trump's incessant, continuous, and aggressive attacks on America's top hat up in Canada.

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My theory is pretty much number two, that President Trump obviously had something to do with the results of the Canadian election. So sure, obviously it makes a huge difference if you swap out the very unpopular Justin Trudeau for a cipher, a non-entity like Mark Carney. And Carney, to his credit, ran a little bit more as a moderate on issues like immigration or even on the economy.

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He suggested he wasn't going to raise taxes. He was going to mildly lower the taxes in Canada But the big election issue in Canada was not any more inflation or fiscal mismanagement in Canada, which is what Poliev had been running on.

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The main election question in Canada, beginning in January, simultaneous with the dropout of Justin Trudeau, was America's aggressive attack on Canada, both rhetorically and in terms of policy. President Trump first started attacking the Canadians in December 2018. of last year. He started calling them the 51st state and trolling the Canadians.

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And then he started talking literally his first day in office about dropping serious tariffs on the Canadians. And what that did is it flipped the entire political fight in Canada. So before it had been about Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party's mismanagement, and then it turned into who is best willing and conditioned to fight President Trump on his tariff agenda.

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Who's willing to stand up to Trump? And there's a widespread perception in Canada that Pierre Poliev, because he was a candidate of the right and was widely liked by many conservatives in the United States, that Pierre Poliev was some sort of Trump ally and therefore ill positioned to go up against Donald Trump. He tried to draw a contrast with Trump.

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He tried to say that he was going to fight Trump on the tariffs and that Trump was wrong on the tariffs. The problem was that imagistically he was of the right. Trump was of the right. His entire campaign slogan, by the way, was Canada first, which was very reminiscent of President Trump's America first slogan.

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And so that obviously was sort of roiling underneath the dynamics of Trudeau versus Poliev. And then once Trudeau dropped out, it was almost like a hot air balloon that had dropped its ballast. The Liberal Party started to rise precipitously specifically because Trudeau, who was wildly unpopular with the public, was gone.

Chapter 5: What executive orders is President Trump signing regarding immigration?

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Chapter 6: How is the Trump administration handling immigration enforcement?

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Meanwhile, in actual good news, the Trump administration, there are many areas of the Trump administration that I think during the first hundred days have not gone particularly well. That would range from the economy to some areas of foreign policy. However, when it comes to immigration, President Trump has been absolutely stalwart. That was his number one issue.

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He's actually handled immigration so well that it dropped out of the top four or five issues for Americans. It was the number one or number two issue in every poll for Americans during the 2024 election cycle. Trump comes in and literally on the first day, everything gets fixed. Because he says, we're going to enforce the border. Don't come here. And people stop coming here.

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Well, yesterday, Caroline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, announced that President Trump is going to be signing an EO, cracking down on illegal immigration.

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Later this afternoon, President Trump will sign an executive order on law and order and another executive order on sanctuary cities. The first EO will strengthen and unleash America's law enforcement to pursue criminals and protect innocent citizens.

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The second EO is centered around protecting American communities from criminal aliens, and it will direct the Attorney General and Secretary of Homeland Security to publish a list of state and local jurisdictions that obstruct the enforcement of federal immigration laws.

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Okay, so all of that is quite good. He signed three executive orders, including one that instructed Pam Bondi and the Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem, to pursue all necessary legal remedies and enforcement measures against so-called sanctuary cities. Again, that is correct. If you have said so, here's the deal.

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Local law enforcement cannot be militarized by the federal government under the Posse Comitatus Act to actually enforce federal law. That is not a thing.

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However, obstruction of justice, which is a thing that has been happening in these sanctuary cities where ICE goes in and you have local law enforcement actively obstructing, getting in the way, declaring their sanctuary cities and going out of their way to sort of thwart federal law. That is something that the federal government should be cracking down on.

Chapter 7: What are the recent developments at the Department of Justice under the Trump administration?

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Another one of these executive orders aims to bolster legal resources to police officers accused of wrongdoing. The third seeks to enforce existing laws requiring professional truck drivers to be proficient in English, according to the New York Times.

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Now, President Trump, of course, has also been unleashing ICE to actually go after illegal immigration wherever they find it in significant numbers. One of the big sort of splashy stories that happened over the weekend is U.S.

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federal agents, according to CNN, early Sunday raided what authorities described as an underground nightclub in Colorado Springs and took into custody more than 100 migrants accused of being in the country illegally, according to the DEA. Jonathan Pullen, the special agent in charge, said what was happening inside was a significant drug trafficking, prostitution, crimes of violence.

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We seized a number of guns in there. So again, the raid had been planned for months, according to the DEA. During surveillance, investigators documented drug trafficking, prostitution, and presence of people suspected to be members of the Venezuelan gang Tren Daragua, the international gang MS-13, as well as the Hells Angels. This is a very large raid.

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Attorney General Bondi, in explaining the nature of the raid, explained there'd been a bunch of 911 phone calls during the Biden administration, basically ignored.

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So to back up, during the Biden administration, they received 170 911 calls to that club alone. That club we were just watching, 170 calls. Wouldn't you think that would have been a red flag? Nothing happened. Guns, shootings, ag batteries, nothing happened.

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Okay, so again, this is the upside of the Trump administration. Immigration, they've been doing an excellent job, even though courts have been attempting to hamstring them pretty much every step of the way in sort of a funny corollary to the immigration situation. Over the weekend, Kristi Noem, the Secretary of Homeland Security, Her handbag was stolen.

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She had put it underneath a chair in a restaurant and purse snatchers grabbed it. Well, the suspects were then nabbed by the authorities. And one of them, it turns out, was apparently in the country, not legally. So that was a bad idea. Tom Homan, the bulldog border czar, had a bit of a funny quip about all of this.

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I don't have the criminal history, but I know the one who stole the purse is supposedly in the country legally. But, you know, pick the wrong person to steal first from. I mean, Secretary Nome is a strong, strong secretary.

Chapter 8: Why should Americans be concerned about foreign policy related to Russia, China, and Iran?

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And she's now reorienting the DOJ toward pushing against institutional discrimination under the Civil Rights Act, including universities. And now that's been apparently a great way of getting people at DOJ who are, in fact, many of them sort of deep state members embedded with the left. to quit.

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According to the New York Times, hundreds of lawyers and other staff members are leaving the DOJ Civil Rights Division as veterans of the office say they've been driven out by Trump administration officials who want to drop its traditional work in order to aggressively pursue cases against the Ivy League, other schools and liberal cities. Well, good.

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Harmeet said in an interview over the weekend, now over 100 attorneys decided they'd rather not do what their job requires them to do. I think that's fine. She said, we don't want people in the federal government who feel like it's their pet project to go persecute police departments. The job here is to enforce federal civil rights law, not woke ideology. Now, again, that is great.

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Harmeet is terrific. She's doing a great job over there. And it's specifically because, again, that the administration is doing so many really important things that I am concerned about the administration's generalized foreign policy approach. Because administrations rise and fall as a unit.

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If the American people like President Trump's immigration policy, but do not like his economic plans, and the economic plans are pulling in the 30s right now, that is going to sink how they feel about his immigration agenda.

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If the American people like what President Trump is doing on DEI, I love what President Trump is doing on DEI, but they don't like his foreign policy or believe that his foreign policy is going to lead to a more fractious and conflict-ridden world, that drags him down. Again, presidencies rise or fall as a unit.

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Now, one of these sort of truisms of American politics, that foreign policy doesn't tend to matter all that much. Well, here's the thing. It doesn't matter all that much until it absolutely does. Excellent example of this would be Joe Biden. So if you look at Joe Biden's approval rating during his presidency, his approval ratings from the time he was elected were fairly high.

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After his election, his original approval ratings were up in the 50s. And then they started to slowly decline. where they really started to cross streams, where the disapprove versus the approve started to cross streams, was specifically around the withdrawal from Afghanistan. So his numbers had been declining, albeit slowly, and then the withdrawal from Afghanistan absolutely cratered him.

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He was underwater the rest of his administration. Because it turns out there's one thing Americans do not like, and that is our enemies winning. We don't like it. And the world is filled with American enemies. And those enemies, yes, include Russia. Yes, include China. Yes, include Iran.

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