In what will surely be remembered as one of the most infamous moments of his entire presidency, President Trump booted an ungrateful President Zelenskyy out of the White House on Friday. Blake, Andrew, Alex Marlow, and Kurt Schlichter jump in to respond in real time to one of the wildest moments in diplomatic history. Watch ad free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: What led to Trump's confrontation with Zelensky?
And he went against Trump despite how Trump was helpful to him when Trump was president. And Zelensky knew it. Zelensky didn't hate Trump before. I don't think he hates him now. It's one of these things where Vance was defending our honor and then Zelensky gets emotional about it like a baby. Unbelievable stuff. And I just don't know how the media spins it. Maybe they, but they'll try.
They will try.
And I suppose the million, the hundred billion dollar question is, what is the impact of this on the actual war? Does this somehow bring us closer to peace? And I think the answer is we don't know. It would I think I would consider it a tragedy. Charlie would consider it a tragedy if that were to result in, you know, if this means there is no peace. Russia crushes Ukraine forever.
Hundreds of thousands of people die. I don't think that's what President Trump wants. He genuinely does want peace. We want peace, but we can only have peace if every party involved actually wants it to happen. And today it kind of did have the look that rather than pursuing peace, Zelensky wanted to pursue this dunk on Vice President Vance.
Why don't you give us your thoughts, Alex, on that part of it? Are we closer to peace or farther away?
Yeah, Blake, one thing that's really interesting here that I was thinking about is that there's been a lot of back and forth about whether or not Ukraine has all these rare earths. And the EU says that they've got all these rare earths. They've got a lot of them. They've got like 5% of the world's rare earths. There's been a lot of dispute about that. Russian media says they don't have as much.
And, you know, I don't tend to trust Russian media at face value, but it's an interesting possibility that maybe Russia was right and the EU was wrong. Again, all else being equal, I tend to trust the EU more than Russia, but who trusts the EU that much?
Maybe there's something going on that maybe there aren't as many of these minerals that we thought we were going to get when we were brokering this piece. And maybe that was part of the underlying thing. Maybe that's why Zelensky was freaking out is that that could have been exposed. So that's another thing because the deal was not signed.
So apparently Zelensky's left the White House, been kicked out of the White House now. So he's on his way home. And if there's no deal signed yet, then what was this all about? We kicked him out.
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Chapter 2: How did the Oval Office meeting between Trump and Zelensky unfold?
So, you know, and I tend to believe the press statement from the White House saying he was begging for a reset. Hey, everything's fine. We argued it out. What's a little fight tomorrow? Well, you know, we'll be bros again kind of thing. I think I think they're not playing around. And I think this is years of being frustrated. The Biden regime's handling of this of this conflict.
And it just it just boiled over. And I think Trump's I think Trump's already sized up the leverage. Kurt, if you want to reply, you got about 30 seconds till our break.
Look, I think that if you like Ukraine, if you truly like Ukraine, like the regime media pretends to, like the Democrats pretend to, they be honest and say, hey, Zelensky was totally out of line here, totally out of line. Guys, go to your corners, cool off, get back in there, hug it out, work it out. But they can't do that.
Yeah. So I was just thinking as I watched that clip where, you know, what's his name on MSNBC was raving how horrific this is. I think it is worth pausing to reflect on what we've said a lot about the Ukraine war, which is This is a war which 100% did not have to happen.
If you followed the lead up to that war in late 2021, early 2022, Russia was very, very, very straightforward about what their grievances were. with the West. They were angry about NATO expansion. They wanted to negotiate.
They were saying, if we can make a deal on Crimea, if we can make a deal on leaving military assets away from the border, if we can make deals about who gets to join NATO and so on, they were ready to... They wanted some sort of negotiation. And we would just refuse to do it. We would howl about their buildup, but we would not negotiate. And then... They invaded Ukraine.
Hundreds of thousands of people from both countries are now dead because of this. We have the evidence that a peace could have been negotiated within the first few days of the conflict, which would have been a much better deal than we are likely to get now.
It might have literally just been we acknowledge Crimea and we acknowledge Donbass, which were two territories Russia already controlled at the time. That by all measurements appear to want to be a part of Russia anyway. And they threw all of that out and they insisted on plunging a unfortunate country. Ukraine is an unfortunate country. It is probably the most...
conflict wracked of all of the former soviet countries it's one of the poorest it is a tragic country that has had enough bad things happen to it and we had war hawks in washington war hawks in brussels push them into a war that they could not win without foreign support when they could not when like we weren't willing to send our own troops to do it we have people we have people saying this is great because ukraine is doing the dying for us to kill russians
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