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Elon Musk’s takeover of Washington

Wed, 05 Feb 2025

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On today’s show: Trump proposed a permanent displacement of Palestinians from Gaza. Reuters has more. Meanwhile, Trump and Elon Musk are waging a two-front war as Musk does the president’s “dirty work.” Isaac Arnsdorf from the Washington Post has the story. Kate Sosin from The 19th looks at the Trump administration’s moves to restrict the rights of transgender people. Plus, Darren Beattie, who has made past controversial statements, has been named acting undersecretary of state for public diplomacy. The trial of the man accused in Salman Rushdie’s stabbing has begun. And the NFL plans to remove “End Racism” messaging in the end zone ahead of the Super Bowl. Today’s episode was hosted by Shumita Basu.

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Chapter 1: What are the key topics discussed in this episode?

5.063 - 39.053 Shumita Basu

Good morning. It's Wednesday, February 5th. I'm Shamita Basu. This is Apple News Today. On today's show, Elon Musk's takeover of Washington, how President Trump has rolled back rights for transgender Americans, and the NFL sends a different message ahead of the Super Bowl. But first, President Trump made extraordinary statements yesterday about the future of Gaza.

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Chapter 2: What did Trump propose regarding the future of Gaza?

39.494 - 49.046 Shumita Basu

In a meeting at the White House with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, he said the United States will seize the territory and have long-term ownership over its future development.

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49.517 - 75.376 Donald Trump

The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip, will own it, and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site, level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings, level it out, create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of jobs and housing for The people of the area do a real job, do something different.

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75.996 - 87.186 Shumita Basu

Trump also said Palestinians should leave Gaza and go to neighboring Jordan and Egypt. When pressed on this plan by a reporter, he said anyone could eventually return after American development in the Strip.

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87.762 - 113.182 Donald Trump

We have an opportunity to do something that could be phenomenal. And I don't wanna be cute, I don't wanna be a wise guy, but the Riviera of the Middle East, this could be something that could be so magnificent. But more importantly than that is the people that have been absolutely destroyed that live there now can live in peace in a much better situation because they're living in hell.

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113.823 - 115.985 Donald Trump

And those people will now be able to live in peace

116.445 - 126.312 Shumita Basu

The comments are stunning, coming from an American president. And while he didn't offer many tangible details, it suggests a massive reshaping of American foreign policy in the region.

126.893 - 143.345 Shumita Basu

For decades, it's been American policy that Palestinians have a right to live in Gaza, even as there have been vast disagreements among American politicians about what that should mean and whether it should include a two-state solution. Late last night, some lawmakers offered early reactions to Trump's comments.

143.825 - 154.571 Shumita Basu

Senator Josh Hawley, who is a Republican, said that he doesn't think it's a good use of American resources or money to invest in Gaza and would prefer that investment be spent in the United States first.

155.272 - 171.667 Shumita Basu

Senator John Fetterman, who is a Democrat, said he would support an American occupation of the Gaza Strip, saying that Palestinians have failed to provide security and economic development for themselves. After Trump's remarks, Palestine's ambassador to the UN rejected his suggestion.

Chapter 3: How did various parties respond to Trump's Gaza proposal?

172.449 - 177.64 Palestine's Ambassador to the UN

Our country and our home is the Gaza Strip. It's part of Palestine.

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178.325 - 197.476 Shumita Basu

Hamas, which controls Gaza, also rejected the idea. In a statement, they said Palestinians will not be, quote, expelled from their land. Many of the people who live in Gaza today are descendants of Palestinians who were forced out of their homes during the 1948 war in an event known as the Nakba, or catastrophe.

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198.156 - 214.348 Shumita Basu

Ever since, many Palestinians have been determined to do all that they can to cede no more of their territory. Jordan and Egypt have also rejected the idea of taking in Gazans. Netanyahu, meanwhile, praised Trump's ideas and applauded him for thinking outside the box.

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214.949 - 220.814 Benjamin Netanyahu

I think it's something that could change history. And it's worthwhile really pursuing this avenue.

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221.738 - 241.884 Shumita Basu

Trump's plan would clear a major obstacle for Netanyahu. Many analysts believe it will be nearly impossible for Netanyahu to fully end the war in Gaza if Hamas is still in control of the Strip. This announcement comes at a critical time in a very fragile Middle East. Israel and Hamas are still in phase one of the ceasefire deal.

242.464 - 272.291 Shumita Basu

Israel and Hezbollah are also in a pause of fighting in Lebanon, and there are growing concerns about Iran's nuclear capabilities. Trump's proposal will surely rattle all sides in an already volatile situation. Since President Trump entered office, his right-hand man, tech billionaire Elon Musk, has been on a blitz to reshape the federal government.

272.831 - 286.845 Shumita Basu

He's led efforts to shut down agencies like USAID and the Department of Education. He's offered buyouts to thousands of federal workers, which over 20,000 have accepted. And he's gained access to core infrastructure of the federal government, like...

287.441 - 301.286 Isaac Arnsdorf

the Office of Personnel Management, which is basically HR for the federal government, and the General Services Administration, which handles all the real estate and computers and equipment, you know, the physical stuff.

301.927 - 305.428 Shumita Basu

That's Isaac Arnsdorf, who covers the White House for The Washington Post.

Chapter 4: What role is Elon Musk playing in the federal government?

371.617 - 391.153 Isaac Arnsdorf

There's a lot of concern about some of the powers that Musk is exercising now that could affect his companies that have substantial contracts with the government, such as SpaceX, or it's a company that relies on government investments in electric vehicle infrastructure, such as Tesla.

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391.912 - 398.497 Shumita Basu

Arnstorf also sees parallels in how Musk is approaching federal staffing cuts to how he's handled things at his companies.

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399.097 - 421.514 Isaac Arnsdorf

It's very similar to what he did at Tesla and Twitter, especially in the theatrics of like sleeping in the office, you know, setting up a cot or a sleeping bag and making a show of setting up camp in the executive suite. Also, the offer to federal employees is basically identical to what he did to Twitter employees when he bought Twitter.

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422.188 - 438.809 Shumita Basu

A recent Quinnipiac poll found that 53 percent of those surveyed disapproved of Musk's role in the government. Trump has said that Musk won't do anything without his approval. But for Trump, Arnsdorff says, there's a benefit here. Musk offers strategic political cover for the president.

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439.349 - 459.302 Isaac Arnsdorf

He can take credit any time that Musk achieves something he likes because Musk is doing it on his behalf. But if there ever comes a day where Musk gets over his skis or gets overzealous, Trump is in the position of hanging back to say, well, look, that's not me, that's Musk, and kind of avoid taking the heat for that himself.

468.138 - 484.23 Shumita Basu

Let's turn now to a group of Americans whose lives have been upended by some of President Trump's early actions in office. Transgender people make up less than 1% of the adult population, but the administration has made rolling back their rights one of its top priorities in the first 100 days.

485.356 - 494.58 Kate Sosin

The overall goal is to make it seem like it is illegal and indefensible to be a transgender person walking around in this country.

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That's Kate Sossin, who covers issues related to the LGBTQ plus community for The 19th.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of Musk's involvement in government operations?

500.562 - 504.904 Kate Sosin

Transgender people are really under attack in every facet of their lives.

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505.723 - 519.329 Shumita Basu

On day one, Trump issued an executive order that the federal government would only recognize two sexes, male and female, although scientists and other experts have long said gender and sex are distinct and that gender is not binary.

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520.289 - 539.201 Shumita Basu

Trump ordered the Education Department to block federal funding from schools that educate students about the fluidity of gender, also schools that support students who are transitioning. Trump directed his defense secretary to ban trans people from openly serving in the military. He also moved to ban trans women from federal women's prisons.

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539.922 - 563.456 Shumita Basu

Today, he's expected to sign an order to ban transgender women and girls from participating in women's sports in schools and colleges. He's also signed an executive order aiming to restrict doctors from giving gender-affirming care to patients under the age of 19, which studies have shown can be life-saving treatment. Sossin told us about the impossible choices medical providers are now facing.

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564.156 - 575.838 Kate Sosin

If they do not provide that medical care, they're kind of going against a Hippocratic oath. And if they do provide it, they are at risk of losing their funding. So it is a really bad catch-22 for a lot of these physicians.

576.398 - 592.641 Shumita Basu

There have been a number of legal challenges filed so far against these moves. Sossin says trans people are terrified and overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of actions Trump has taken so far to eliminate their rights, even if some of these attempts are ultimately overturned by the courts.

593.24 - 617.977 Kate Sosin

Whatever tone the president does set, history will bear out that transgender people are just a part of the fabric of our lives. And the deeper we engage with the legal issues or ramifications, the more we risk legitimizing what is essentially a policy that aims to make it impossible for people to exist as they are, which is inhumane.

618.837 - 626.516 Kate Sosin

I think there's a real question of will cisgender people stand up for transgender people when everybody is so scared?

638.854 - 657.665 Shumita Basu

Before we let you go, a few other stories we're following. Last night, the Senate confirmed Pam Bondi as the next attorney general. Meanwhile, two other Trump nominees, Tulsi Gabbard for director of national intelligence and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for health and human services, have advanced out of Senate committees and will head to a full confirmation vote.

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