In the coming days, President Trump is expected to sign an executive order that would follow through on one of his major campaign promises: to abolish the U.S. Department of Education. The catch is that he still needs the department to impose his vision on American schools.Dana Goldstein, who covers education for The Times, explains how Mr. Trump is balancing his desire both to dismantle and to weaponize the Education Department.Guest: Dana Goldstein, a reporter covering education and families for The New York Times.Background reading: Here’s why Republicans want to dismantle the Education Department.Video: What does the Department of Education actually do?For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Photo: Kevin Lamarque/Reuters Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
What is President Trump's plan for the Department of Education?
From The New York Times, I'm Kim Severson. This is The Daily. In the coming days, President Trump is expected to sign an executive order that would, at least on paper, follow through on one of his major campaign promises, to abolish the U.S. Department of Education. The catch is, he still needs it to impose his vision on American schools.
Today, my colleague Dana Goldstein on how Trump is balancing a desire to both dismantle and weaponize the education department. It's Monday, March 10th. Dana, over the past few days, we've been hearing that President Trump has plans to abolish the Department of Education. And even for an administration that's been dismantling agencies across government, this felt pretty big.
You're a veteran education reporter. Talk to us about what's happening.
So a draft executive order attempting to dismantle the Federal Department of Education has been circulating in Washington, and we have seen it. And it's no surprise to us that this draft is out there. We've been hearing for many weeks now that President Trump will sign an order like this. In fact, several times we were sort of poised watching video of him sitting at the Resolute Desk,
in the Oval Office with executive orders that he was about to sign, thinking, is this the day? Is one of these pieces of paper the one that will attempt to abolish the agency? And so far, he hasn't done it. But it does seem that this is something that is in very serious consideration for him.
Okay, this all sounds pretty drastic, eliminating the entire Department of Education. And I want to understand why he wants to do that. But before we get there, it might be helpful to understand, and I hate to admit that I don't know this, what exactly is the Department of Education responsible for?
Well, I think it's important to step back and understand not just what it does, but also what it doesn't do. It does not set the curriculum of local public schools or reading lists or decide how many teachers to hire or what teachers are paid or what student discipline policy should be or what standardized tests should be given. All of that is controlled by state and local governments. Right.
So there's not like a federal rule about how much history a kid needs to graduate from high school. The feds do none of that.
They do not do that. In fact, 90% of the funding for local schools comes from local and state governments. And only about 10% comes from Washington and flows through the Federal Department of Education. That 10% is important because it focuses on low-income students and children with disabilities.
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