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Trump Screws His Entire Legal Defense in Front of World

Wed, 05 Mar 2025

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump making a stunning admission that will screw him in all the lawsuits that have been filed against him and Musk. Naked Wines: Head to https://NakedWines.com/MEIDAS and use code MEIDAS for both the code AND PASSWORD. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What did Donald Trump admit in his joint session speech?

0.069 - 18.786 Ben Meiselas

Donald Trump's joint session speech was not only the worst speech I think I've ever seen in Congress, but it also gave all of the people, all of the groups suing Donald Trump a treasure trove of evidence to use against Donald Trump and Elon Musk. Let me explain.

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18.846 - 49.488 Ben Meiselas

During one portion of the speech, Donald Trump praised Elon Musk and specifically referred to Elon Musk as the head of Doge, which Donald Trump says was a department that he and Elon Musk created. Now, this directly contradicts the declarations and affidavits that were submitted to federal courts, which said that Doge is not a new department or agency. and that Elon Musk is not its head.

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49.568 - 69.736 Ben Meiselas

It's not its leader. I want you to watch what Donald Trump just said. He's going to potentially cause a lot of lawyers that work at the DOJ to be very nervous tonight that they may lose their bar licenses. And he also provided a gift to the people who are suing him, suing Musk, to get accountability. Here, play this clip.

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70.096 - 91.586 Donald Trump

I have created the brand new Department of Government Efficiency. which is headed by Elon Musk, who is in the gallery tonight.

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106.465 - 122.576 Ben Meiselas

All right, so now let's just take a look at some of the affidavits, some of the declarations that were submitted on behalf of Doge in the various court proceedings. Take a look at this one, for example, and there have been declarations like this in numerous cases.

123.357 - 142.156 Ben Meiselas

Anna Bauer says the following, in a new filing, a Trump administration official says that Elon Musk is not the administrator in charge of Doge. He's a senior advisor to the president per the declaration. And you take a look at this declaration right here, and it says the following.

142.356 - 166.971 Ben Meiselas

This is written by somebody named Joshua Fisher, who may be a little nervous tonight after submitting this declaration. It says, I am the director of the Office of Administration. I have personal knowledge of Mr. Musk's employment status within the federal government. Mr. Musk is an employee of the White House. He holds the position as a non-career special government employee, SGE.

167.431 - 192.164 Ben Meiselas

In that job, Musk is a senior advisor to the president. It says it's not uncommon to have that position. Then it goes on to say... The U.S. Doge service is a component of the executive office of the president. The U.S. Doge service temporary organization is within U.S. Doge service. Both are separate from the White House office. Mr. Musk is an employee of the White House office.

192.544 - 217.036 Ben Meiselas

He is not an employee of the U.S. Doge service or U.S. Doge service temporary organization. Mr. Musk is not the U.S. Doge service administrator. Because Donald Trump right there seemed to say that Elon Musk is the head of Doge, which is its own department, not something that already existed.

Chapter 2: How does Trump's speech affect ongoing lawsuits?

424.489 - 442.915 Ben Meiselas

And our staff at the Justice Department's federal programs branch has been cut in half. We have about half the number of staff we had in November, and we are working on expedited schedules. The judge is like saying, so I'm just trying to understand this. Like, are you saying that you don't have the staff? This is what the judge goes.

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442.955 - 464.185 Ben Meiselas

So you're saying the Justice Department isn't taking this case seriously, that you're not staffed sufficiently? to which the lawyer goes, it's the opposite. I've had I've been working day and night since being since January 20th. We're working really hard. And the judge is like, I understand that. But come on, like, like, come on here. So let me just show you.

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464.205 - 472.129 Ben Meiselas

I mean, and by the way, now Donald Trump clearly said Elon Musk is is the head of Doge. I mean, you heard him say that.

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I want to play this clip for you as well.

566.36 - 579.631 Ben Meiselas

This is a Caroline Levitt at a press conference when the reporter goes, who's the Doge administrator? And she goes, I'm not going to reveal the name of that individual from this podium. That's what she said first a few weeks back. Play this clip.

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