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Ep. 2162 - The Case For Derek Chauvin | Episode 2: The Incident

Thu, 20 Mar 2025

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We examine the most controversial tape of our lifetimes in making the case for the pardon of Derek Chauvin. Donate to Derek Chauvin's Legal Defense Fund Here: https://bit.ly/41CGNtg Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://bit.ly/3WDjgHE Ep.2162 - - - Facts Don’t Care About Your Feelings - - - DailyWire+: We’re leading the charge again and launching a full-scale push for justice. Go to https://PardonDerek.com right now and sign the petition. Now is the time to join the fight. Watch the hit movies, documentaries, and series reshaping our culture. Go to https://dailywire.com/subscribe today. Get your Ben Shapiro merch here: https://bit.ly/3TAu2cw - - - Today's Sponsor: PureTalk - Switch to PureTalk and start saving today! Visit https://PureTalk.com/SHAPIRO - - - Socials: Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3cXUn53 Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3QtuibJ Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3TTirqd Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPyBiB

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Chapter 1: What is the premise of Derek Chauvin's case analysis?

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What if everything you were told about the trial of Derek Chauvin was a lie? Today, we're examining the terrible miscarriage of justice that took place in the case of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin. This is a comprehensive multi-episode breakdown of the case. All the facts, all the evidence, all the political context. We're tearing this case apart piece by piece.

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By the end, I think you'll agree with me that President Trump should immediately pardon Derek Chauvin for his federal convictions. New episodes of the series drop Tuesdays and Thursdays. Watch them, share them, join discussion with Daily Wire members and Ben Shapiro Show producers inside the Daily Wire Plus app. The truth matters, justice matters, and you won't hear this anywhere else.

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This is the case for Derek Chauvin. Episode 2, The Incident. So, folks, yesterday, Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt explicitly said that President Trump is not considering a pardon for Derek Chauvin at this time, which, of course, is perfectly fine and, frankly, expected at this stage. The clear pattern we've seen time and again is the grassroots movement build momentum first.

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Concerned citizens speak out consistently. Eventually, those voices permeate the administration's awareness and influence what makes it onto the president's agenda. That's precisely what happened with the January 6th defendants and others who received pardons or commutations. The administration initially distanced itself from those cases too, but then public pressure mounted.

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This statement from Caroline Lovett isn't a reason to stop educating yourself on the issue or to remain silent if you believe a terrible injustice has occurred. In fact, it is even a better reason for citizens to familiarize themselves with the facts, analyze the case objectively, and speak out if they believe our justice system has failed. Now, let's dive into the incident. Memorial Day 2020.

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The country was nearly three months into the COVID-19 lockdowns. Businesses were closed. Millions were unemployed. People were increasingly frustrated with government-imposed restrictions on their daily lives. Minneapolis, like many urban centers across America, was experiencing this pressure cooker environment, along with pre-existing tensions between law enforcement and minority communities.

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Minneapolis had been a laboratory for progressive criminal justice policies. Racial tensions had been mounting for years. Following the 2014 shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, and the subsequent Hands Up, Don't Shoot narrative, the Black Lives Matter movement had gained significant influence over police policy nationwide.

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Minneapolis was at the forefront of implementing reforms that restricted officers' ability to effectively police high crime areas. To understand the full context, we actually need to go back to the 1990s, when critical race theory began to migrate from the academic fringes into mainstream discourse.

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Scholars like Derrick Bell and Kimberly Crenshaw push the idea that America is fundamentally racist at its core, that our entire system is designed to oppress minorities, that concepts like colorblindness, equal opportunity, meritocracy are themselves racist constructs.

Chapter 2: Why is a pardon for Derek Chauvin being discussed?

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They created a perception among officers that proper enforcement of the law would not be supported by city leadership. This toxic political climate directly impacted police morale and effectiveness. Officers increasingly found themselves caught in an impossible situation, tasked with maintaining public safety while being told that traditional policing methods were inherently racist.

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The so-called Ferguson effect was taking hold, a phenomenon where police withdraw from proactive enforcement due to fear of public criticism, all of which resulted in increased crime rates. And as I mentioned earlier, let's not forget the unprecedented context of the COVID-19 lockdowns that served as the backdrop to this entire situation.

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By May 25th, 2020, Americans had been subjected to nearly three months of draconian restrictions. Businesses were shuttered, unemployment was skyrocketing, citizens were effectively imprisoned in their homes by government mandate. The psychological and economic strain on Americans was immense. People couldn't work, they couldn't socialize, they couldn't go to church.

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Basic freedoms were suspended indefinitely with constantly shifting justifications from health authorities, all of which created a pressure cooker of social tension waiting to explode. The lockdowns had particularly devastating effects on low-income communities, where people couldn't simply work from home on their laptops. Jobs were lost, savings were depleted, futures were uncertain.

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The media stoked fears about the virus, while simultaneously downplaying the devastating consequences of lockdown itself. It was in this powder keg environment, with people frustrated, economically stressed, socially isolated, already primed to see everything through a racial lens after years of media conditioning, that the incomplete video of Floyd's arrest went viral.

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On the evening of the arrest, Eric Chauvin was working as a field training officer in the Minneapolis Police Department's 3rd Precinct. He was partnered with Officer Tao Thao, patrolling one of the higher crime areas of Minneapolis. Meanwhile, George Floyd spent part of his day with friends.

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At approximately 8 p.m., Floyd walked into the Cup Foods grocery store at the intersection of 38th Street and Chicago Avenue in Minneapolis' Powderhorn Park neighborhood. Surveillance footage from inside the store shows Floyd moving around, acting erratic, interacting with store employees and customers.

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According to Christopher Martin, the 19-year-old cashier who testified at Chauvin's trial, Floyd appeared to be high, but was very friendly, approachable, and talkative. Floyd purchased cigarettes with a $20 bill that Martin believed to be counterfeit because of its blue color and texture.

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After Floyd left the store, Martin and other employees at their manager's direction went outside to ask Floyd to return to address the issue of the potentially counterfeit bill. When Floyd refused, the manager instructed an employee to call the police. This single phone call set in motion the chain of events that would end with Floyd's death approximately one hour later.

Chapter 3: What was happening in Minneapolis leading up to the incident?

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What we are left with is a tragic situation where an officer used a department-approved restraint technique on a resistant suspect who's experiencing a medical emergency related to drug intoxication and pre-existing health conditions.

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Then on May 31st, 2020, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz announced that Attorney General Keith Ellison would lead the prosecution of Floyd's death, taking the case away from the Hennepin County District Attorney's Office. This was a purely political decision designed to ensure conviction regardless of the evidence. The media abandoned any pretense of objectivity.

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They repeatedly showed the edited bystander video while ignoring body camera footage that provided crucial context. They highlighted Floyd saying, I can't breathe while on the ground, while failing to mention he was saying this before Chauvin ever restrained him.

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They portrayed the knee on the neck as the obvious cause of death while ignoring the medical examiner's findings about Floyd's heart condition and drug use. Coleman Hughes, a writer and commentator who also happens to be black, analyzed the case in depth and concluded the media narrative was fundamentally flawed.

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As he noted in his piece, What Really Happened to George Floyd, Chauvin did not improvise the restraint position. He was utilizing the maximum restraint technique, again, part of the MPD training manual. But the photo on the training slide demonstrating this technique was redacted at trial. In the documentary, The Fall of Minneapolis, six current and former MPD police officers affirm that

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The MRT was indeed standard training, training they themselves had received. When asked if he was trained on MRT, Rich Walker, an African-American MPD sergeant with 19 years on the force, replied, yes, all the police officers were trained in MRT. Politicians, celebrities, corporations all rushed to signal their virtue. Companies pledged millions to Black Lives Matter organizations.

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Sports teams knelt during the national anthem. Social media profiles posted little black squares. Anyone who dared to suggest we should wait for the legal process to unfold was immediately branded a racist." As Hughes noted in a subsequent piece on Derek Chauvin, George Floyd, and reasonable doubt, there are two different theories of what caused Floyd's death.

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The positional asphyxia theory put forth by medical examiner Dr. Michael Bodden, hired by Floyd's family, and the adrenaline surge theory, a term coined by Hughes and presented by the county medical examiner Dr. Baker.

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As Hughes correctly points out, as a juror, if you have two reasonable explanations for cause of death, one of which implicates the defendant and one of which does not, you are supposed to acquit. But that's not what happened. In our next episode, we'll examine the autopsy findings in detail and explore how the prosecution's narrative required jurors to disregard key medical evidence.

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