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Bonds Sell Off as New U.S. Tariffs Upend Global Trade

Wed, 09 Apr 2025

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A.M. Edition for April 9. As U.S. tariffs targeting nearly 100 nations take effect, WSJ reporters Jason Douglas and Kim Mackrael explain how America’s trade partners are responding to the levies, including a 104% tariff on China. Plus, markets reporter Chelsey Dulaney breaks down an intensifying selloff in usual safe haven U.S. Treasurys. And President Trump vows to bring back the declining U.S. coal industry. Luke Vargas hosts. Sign up for the WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: How are new U.S. tariffs affecting global trade?

3.848 - 8.35 Luke Vargas

President Trump cheers on his trade agenda as reciprocal tariffs kick in.

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8.82 - 16.342 Donald Trump

And I really think we're helped a lot by the tariff situation that's going on, which is a good situation, not a bad. It's great. It's going to be legendary. You watch.

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16.902 - 40.37 Luke Vargas

We'll look at how America's trade partners, central banks and investors are responding as U.S. treasuries sell off, plus the rest of the day's headlines. It's Wednesday, April 9th. I'm Luke Vargas for The Wall Street Journal. And here is the AM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories moving your world today. Reciprocal U.S.

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Chapter 2: What is the response of America's trade partners to the tariffs?

40.43 - 53.644 Luke Vargas

tariffs on nearly 100 countries are officially in effect. As of a minute after midnight, U.S. duties now stand at their highest level since before World War II, with the likes of China now facing tariffs of 104 percent.

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55.746 - 74.153 Luke Vargas

No region of the world is being spared, though many Southeast Asian nations are hardest hit, with Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia on the receiving end of tariff hikes north of 45 percent, moves likely to upend supply chains, dent growth forecasts and ripple through to consumers in the form of higher prices.

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74.753 - 85.163 Luke Vargas

And on such a consequential day for global trade, it's fitting we've got a pair of journal reporters with us this morning from opposite ends of the world. Kim McRae is in Brussels and Jason Douglas is in Singapore.

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85.844 - 96.534 Luke Vargas

Jason, you have been putting out a number of big reports in recent days, reckoning with the enormity of the changes coming to the global trade system, a new reality that is now very much upon us.

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97.014 - 111.183 Jason Douglas

Yeah, I think that's right. We're all trying to wrap our heads around what this means for globalization, what this means for the global trading system as it stands, as it stood for 30 odd years. In the short term, I think the economic worry is recession. These recession fears are just getting bigger and bigger.

Chapter 3: How are Asian economies bracing for the tariff impacts?

111.223 - 130.947 Jason Douglas

I think you can see in stock markets across Asia that there's real concerns now about growth. We've seen central banks in New Zealand and India today cut interest rates. We're starting to see all sorts of little support packages being thrown to exporters in the region by countries like South Korea and their auto industry, Japan and Taiwan.

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130.967 - 134.91 Jason Douglas

There's real anxiety in Asia now about what all this means for growth, for sure, yeah.

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135.49 - 146.003 Luke Vargas

Speaking only, Jason, about the impact of trade volumes, we saw a projection today from Capital Economics about Chinese exports and just there are some potentially massive changes coming.

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146.363 - 162.29 Jason Douglas

Yeah, that's right. We've seen some forecasts from investment banks and from consultancies out here suggesting that Chinese exports exports to the US could drop by as much as half in light of Trump's tariffs of 104% plus, depending on exactly how you calculate it. We're already starting to see the yuan weaken.

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162.85 - 180.943 Jason Douglas

It's tightly controlled by the central bank and the government, but they are starting to let it weaken a little bit. It's a bit unclear if that'll be the start of a sustained depreciation or something more controlled. But you're right for all the economies out here, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, these are all very heavily export dependent economies and the US is by far their biggest market. So

181.603 - 183.983 Jason Douglas

They really are bracing for a great deal of disruption.

184.444 - 192.545 Luke Vargas

Kim, the tariff rates are really highest for many of the Asian countries that Jason was just mentioning, but the outlook fundamentally is no better in the EU, is it?

192.965 - 209.288 Kim Mackrael

No, I think that's right. The US is an extremely important export market for Europe. And in Europe's case, it's 20% across the board tariffs, as well as the auto tariffs of 25%, the steel and aluminum tariffs of 25%. The threat of future tariffs, that's a huge threat to the outlook for Europe.

Chapter 4: What is the outlook for the European Union amidst U.S. tariffs?

209.895 - 216.903 Luke Vargas

Yeah. Future tariffs, including those that could hit pharmaceutical products. President Trump saying yesterday those levies could be coming very shortly.

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217.303 - 227.574 Kim Mackrael

Yeah. And pharmaceutical tariffs for Europe would hit Ireland very hard. Denmark is a major pharmaceutical hub for Europe. There's the potential for even more hits to the economy that could be coming.

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227.987 - 241.216 Luke Vargas

Kim, these reciprocal tariffs are kicking in today despite some pretty active tariff diplomacy that's been undertaken by a number of countries. We actually heard from U.S. Trade Representative Jameson Greer about this yesterday. He was testifying on Capitol Hill.

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241.636 - 258.79 Jameson Greer

Nearly 50 countries have approached me personally to discuss the president's new policy and explore how to achieve reciprocity. And they've spoken with many members of the administration. Several of these countries, such as Argentina, Vietnam, India, and Israel, have suggested that they will reduce their tariffs and non-tariff barriers in line with the president's policy.

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258.91 - 260.591 Jameson Greer

And these obviously are welcome moves.

261.032 - 275.445 Luke Vargas

Kim, we had the EU Parliament's Trade Committee chair on last Friday's podcast. He's actually part of the delegation in Washington this week, offering concessions, potentially, while also pledging to hit back against the U.S. Take us into this strategy.

275.97 - 295.3 Kim Mackrael

The EU is really trying to pursue a two-pronged path in responding to Trump's tariffs. Their goal is to have negotiations and come up with some sort of deal that they hope would be beneficial for both the US and the EU. At the same time, the feeling is that you're not going to make much progress on negotiations if you don't come at it from a strong position.

295.561 - 310.732 Kim Mackrael

And the view among EU officials is you need to have a stick waiting. So there'll be a vote today to approve a set of tariffs on specific US products. And if that vote is approved, which is quite likely, then they would go into effect next week.

311.172 - 319.061 Luke Vargas

Kim, in terms of what the EU is voting on today, these countermeasures targeting the U.S., they're getting pretty granular, are they not, in terms of what they might be targeting or sparing?

Chapter 5: How is the EU planning to counter U.S. tariffs?

340.062 - 362.023 Kim Mackrael

In some cases, we've got peanut butter, chewing gum is actually on the list. So chewing gum will face a European tariff coming soon, likely. We've got boats, motorcycles, Harley Davidson would be affected by that one. Also interesting in this list is what they decided to spare. So we've got whiskey was on an original potential hit list for European tariffs that was taken off.

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362.863 - 382.381 Kim Mackrael

During the process, same for American wines. And those are interesting because after the EU initially started talking about its retaliation about a month ago, President Trump responded very quickly with a threat of a potential 200% tariff on European alcohols, threatening specifically champagne, but saying that that could apply to other alcoholic beverages as well.

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382.782 - 397.212 Kim Mackrael

That would be absolutely devastating for the wine and spirits industry in Europe. You can see some strategizing going on there where you still are hitting quite a lot of American products, but there's some care being taken to not overly antagonize.

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397.592 - 403.755 Luke Vargas

Jason, in our final moments, how does that EU approach compare with what we've been seeing from some of the major Asian economies?

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404.156 - 420.211 Jason Douglas

Well, if the EU is a carrot and a stick approach, then we have countries like Japan and South Korea that underneath the security umbrella that are mostly doing the carrot bit, they are basically making a beeline to the White House. in the hope of getting a trade deal very quickly. And China thinks, at any rate, that it has a great big stick.

420.451 - 432.301 Jason Douglas

And so it has retaliated hard, and it will probably continue to do so. Both sides, US and China, just do not seem to be very close to a negotiation at all at the minute, and neither side seems willing to back down.

432.801 - 439.407 Luke Vargas

Journal reporter Jason Douglas is in Singapore, and Kim McRaehl is in Brussels. Jason, Kim, thank you both so much. Thanks.

439.667 - 440.688 Kim Mackrael

Great. Thanks so much, Luke.

444.673 - 467.469 Luke Vargas

Checking in on what those tariffs have meant for stock markets this morning, shares in Japan and Korea slid ahead of the close, with European shares also broadly lower in midday trading. But most surprising is a sell-off in the usual safe haven U.S. Treasuries, which has been gathering steam. Instead of rising in response to the stock market sell-off, prices of long-term U.S.

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