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Federal Worker Email Confusion, UN On Ukraine, Colorado River, France Surgeon Trial

Tue, 25 Feb 2025

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Confusion remains after the "What did you do last week?" email that federal workers received, the Trump administration's break with European allies over Ukraine was reflected in several votes at the UN, funds set aside to keep the Colorado River flowing have been halted, and a surgeon in France is on trial for abusing his young patients.Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.Today's episode of Up First was edited by Tara Neil, Eric Whitney, Kevin Drew, Janaya Williams and Alice Woelfle. It was produced by Ziad Buchh, Nia Dumas and Christopher Thomas. We get engineering support from Arthur Laurent. And our technical director is Carleigh Strange.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Chapter 1: What grammatical debate started the podcast?

0.967 - 10.312 Steve Inskeep

Good morning. We're having a heated discussion in here, not really heated, about the apostrophe in its IT apostrophe S versus ITS.

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10.913 - 13.594 Leila Fadel

And the discussion consists of I wrote it wrong.

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13.614 - 20.578 Steve Inskeep

You were wrong. I'm sorry. The discussion is Layla's wrong. It sounds the same. Layla's rarely wrong.

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21.359 - 21.799 Commentator

That's true.

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25.54 - 40.595 Steve Inskeep

The United States broke with allies at the UN, refusing to blame Russia for its invasion of Ukraine. Is the U.S. burning its allies? Oh, my God. You did it a third time. I eliminated two of the apostrophes, and there's yet a third one. Oh, my gosh.

40.655 - 42.817 Leila Fadel

Why do you got to point out all my flaws, Steve?

42.877 - 53.27 Steve Inskeep

No, I'm not. I'm sorry. That's terrible. The United States avoids blaming Russia for its invasion of Ukraine. U.S. allies differ at the U.N.

53.43 - 60.695 Barbara Bradley Hagerty

The terms of the peace must send a message that aggression does not pay. Is the U.S. breaking with its friends?

60.795 - 74.427 Steve Inskeep

I'm Steve Inskeep with Leila Fadal, and this is Up First from NPR News. The Colorado River drought could get worse. The Trump administration put billions of dollars aimed at keeping the river flowing on hold.

Chapter 2: Why is the U.S. breaking with allies over Ukraine at the UN?

277.912 - 292.002 Steve Inskeep

And the Security Council did approve it with the United States, Russia, and China all voting yes. Britain and France abstained. The exact choice of words matters because what the Security Council approves carries the force of international law.

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292.242 - 303.349 Leila Fadel

NPR's Michelle Kellerman joins us now to talk about all this. Good morning. Good morning, Lola. So first, Michelle, why were the Europeans hesitant to join what the U.S. calls a simple step toward peace?

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304.093 - 320.766 Michelle Martin

Yeah, because the resolution didn't recognize the reality that Russia started this war, nor did it even call for a just peace based on the U.N. charter, which Russia is violating. British Ambassador Barbara Woodward told the council that no one wants peace more than Ukraine, but the terms matter.

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321.167 - 339.458 Barbara Bradley Hagerty

And the terms of the peace must send a message that aggression does not pay. This is why there can be no equivalence between Russia and Ukraine in how this council refers to this war.

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339.918 - 357.066 Michelle Martin

And while the U.S. says this is just a first step to support a peace process that will eventually include everyone, there's just a lot of concern about how the Trump administration is going about this. President Trump himself doesn't seem to agree to the reality that Putin started the war and is the aggressor.

357.606 - 362.349 Leila Fadel

Yeah, and that wasn't the only vote at the UN yesterday. Tell us about what happened in the General Assembly.

362.849 - 380.921 Michelle Martin

Yeah, I mean, this whole thing started because the Ukraine and its European allies wanted the UN to mark the third anniversary of Russia's full-scale invasion by voting on a much longer statement, one that called on Russia to pull out, to stop targeting Ukraine's energy infrastructure, to return civilians to

381.321 - 401.132 Michelle Martin

including Ukrainian children who were forcibly deported to Russia during the course of this war. Now, the Trump administration did not like that. And that's why they drafted their own resolution, you know, challenging anyone to say we don't support peace. And in the end, Ninety three countries supported Ukraine's version in the General Assembly.

401.252 - 411.622 Michelle Martin

And it was amazing to look at the board to see the names of the 18 countries that voted no on that. The U.S. was in league with Russia, Belarus, North Korea, just to name a few. Wow.

Chapter 3: What is happening with the Colorado River funding?

677.899 - 693.825 Steve Inskeep

A once respected surgeon admitted to abusing hundreds of minors over decades, most of them while under anesthesia. The trial is set to last four months. Victims' advocates hope this will prompt a hard look at the failure of the system that should have prevented such abuse.

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694.045 - 710.028 Leila Fadel

We go now to NPR's Eleanor Beardsley to hear more. And just a warning that you're about to hear some disturbing details about this case. Good morning, Eleanor. Good morning, Laila. So just break down the case for us first. Who is this surgeon? Where did he practice? Who did he abuse?

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710.629 - 727.457 Eleanor Beardsley

Okay, his name is Joël Le Squarnac. He's 74 years old now, and he was a prominent surgeon in Western France specializing in appendectomies, abdominal, and gynecological surgery. He's accused of abusing 299 of his patients over three decades, both girls and boys, and the average age was 11.

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728.317 - 743.687 Eleanor Beardsley

He carried out the abuse mostly when they were anesthetized, when he was alone with them in the operating theater or recovery room. And damningly, he was flagged for possessing child pornography in 2004. The FBI actually alerted French authorities after his credit card was linked to a pornography site.

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744.027 - 753.373 Eleanor Beardsley

But the French judge imposed a four-month suspended sentence with no restrictions on his practice or mandated therapy. He went on to serve in many hospitals and continued his abuse until 2017 when

754.614 - 773.612 Eleanor Beardsley

When he coaxed his six-year-old neighbor into his backyard and abused her, he's now serving 15 years for that and facing another 20 for the new abuse cases that have come out since because he kept meticulous diaries of his abuse and named his patients. I spoke with Francesca Sata, a lawyer representing 10 victims and families. Here she is.

773.632 - 788.338 Eleanor Beardsley

He benefited from an Omerta, which is both a personal Omerta She says he benefited from an omerta, a silence, both personal and professional. He abused his own nieces, and Sata, like many believe his then-wife, among others, must have suspected something.

788.638 - 799.902 Leila Fadel

I mean, you describe him getting caught around child pornography in 2004, and then his abuse continues for nearly over a decade. Why was he not stopped?

800.282 - 819.329 Eleanor Beardsley

Yeah, well, that's the question. You know, I spoke with freelance journalist Hugo Lemonnier, who just wrote a book about it. He says this trial, if it's only about this one man, will be a failure because the point, he says, is we continue to allow Lesquarnak to be alone with children. No one asked questions, likely because of his high position in society as a surgeon. Here's Lemonnier.

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