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Amanda Knox Is 'Free,' But Is That Enough?

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Hi, this is Steve Inskeep. Our team is in China, inside a historic Chinese trading city where people come from all over the world to buy wholesale goods to import to their countries. And we're here to find out, among other things, how people are responding to tariffs on goods that go to the United States. Listen for that report on Up First from NPR News.

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I think it's a testimony to the strength of the Israeli-American alliance.

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I think it's a testimony to the strength of the Israeli-American alliance. It's also a testimony to the strength of our personal friendship.

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Two actions this week show the scope of President Trump's bid to reshape the federal government.

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In a moment, we'll hear from a former top budget official in the George W. Bush administration. First, NPR White House correspondent Asma Khalid is here to talk about it all. Asma, good morning. Good morning, Steve. Okay, so the memo was going out to workers last night, I heard. What exactly is the federal government offering its employees?

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Now, this email to federal workers, I guess it'll be played out. Maybe it'll go to court. We'll find out what happens in the hours and days to come. But then there's this other memo pausing payments, trillions of dollars worth of payments, it said yesterday. What exactly was the federal government trying to do with that?

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Also, the nation's report card is out, which shows how American students are doing in math and reading five years after the start of the pandemic.

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The charge being here that Congress, not the president, set spending. So what's the ruling mean?

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NPR White House correspondent Asma Khalid, thanks so much. Good to speak with you. Now reporters are putting questions to the administration today about another story that emerged overnight.

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That is one of the first actions under Trump's newly confirmed secretary of defense, Pete Hegseth. General Milley repeatedly criticized Trump and also worked behind the scenes to ensure a peaceful transfer of power after the 2020 election or as peaceful as possible. Former President Biden issued a preemptive pardon of Milley before leaving office. Today, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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takes questions from senators about his bid to lead the Department of Health and Human Services.

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And Kennedy has offered a lot of opinions on health over the years. NPR's Selina Simmons-Duffin is here. Good morning. Morning, Steve. Okay, so what has Kennedy said and done that lawmakers may have questions about?

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Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day.

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What is the case that his supporters are making for RFK Jr. in this role?

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And I guess we should note here and there, there's been a Democrat who said, listen, I agree with Kennedy about this one thing here and there. But then there are efforts to block his confirmation because of all those other opinions you just mentioned. What's going on?

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Oh, that's interesting because so many people on the right have felt they need to support everything the president does. Who's resisting?

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I'm beginning to wonder, Selina, if just one confirmation hearing is going to be sufficient for all the questions that senators have.

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Okay, HELP Committee, Health, Education, Labor, what's the P? Do we know the P?

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Oh, pensions. NPR's Selina Simmons-Steffan, thanks so much.

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Every two years, we get a rare glimpse of how the nation's students are doing in math and reading.

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NPR's Corey Turner has been looking at the data. Corey, good morning.

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The administration offered the equivalent of several months' pay. How are courts answering another administration move to pause federal spending?

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Okay. So that bit of good news amid some not so good news, I guess.

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Well, this is disturbing at a time when education is so closely linked to people's success later in life.

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What happened to all the money that the federal government spent since the peak of the pandemic to try to make up for some of the pandemic educational losses?

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Really appreciate that insight that this slide would have started before the pandemic, something bigger going on. Corey, thanks so much. You're welcome, Steve. That's NPR's Corey Turner. And that's a first for this Wednesday, January 29th.

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Today's Up First was edited by Dana Farrington, Diane Weber, Nicole Cohen, Jenea Williams, and Alice Wolfley. It was produced by Ziad Butch, Nia Dumas, Claire Murashima, and Chris Thomas. We get engineering support from Nisha Hines, and our technical director is Carly Strange. Join us tomorrow.

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Intel Hearing On Group Chat, Return To Office Mandate, Black Sea Deal

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Hi, this is Steve Inskeep. Our team is in China, inside a historic Chinese trading city where people come from all over the world to buy wholesale goods to import to their countries. The hotel where we're staying is full. This is a very busy time, and we're here to find out, among other things, how people are responding to tariffs on goods that go to the United States.

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Listen for that report on Up First from NPR News.

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House Budget Plan, DOGE Resignations, Battle Against Bird Flu

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That's Steve Inskeep, and this is Up First from NPR News. The president holds a cabinet meeting today and will bring along an aide. The White House insists Elon Musk is not in charge of anything. And some departments ignored his most recent order. So who is making decisions?

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House Republicans barely passed a budget plan making room for tax cuts and cuts to programs like Medicaid.

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Yeah, also expected to show up, special government employee Elon Musk. He has been telling federal employees what to do, though the White House denies he's in charge of anything. And some cabinet secretaries have asserted their own authority over agencies.

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Yeah, the first person to die from bird flu was reported last month, and two people were recently hospitalized in Wyoming and Ohio. The CDC still says the risk to humans is low. But inside the poultry industry, there's a fight brewing over how to take the battle against bird flu to the next level.

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And I'm Leila Fadil. Make your next listen, Consider This. The team behind NPR's All Things Considered goes deep into a single news story in just 15 minutes. Listen now on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Republicans passed a budget plan without a single vote to spare. Speaker Mike Johnson had a problem with some lawmakers reluctant to sign on until they switched at the last moment.

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Now, the spending cuts in this budget blueprint are different from the ones announced so far by Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency. For one thing, the cuts are big. For another, they would be legal, assuming Congress follows through on the rest of a very long process.

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New ICE Policies, Hegseth Claims, West Bank Attacks

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President Trump's administration is rolling out its immigration actions day by day.

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NPR immigration policy reporter Ximena Bustillo has been following all these developments. She's in our studios. Ximena, thanks for coming by.

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OK, we've heard things the administration is saying and gradually we're finding out how far they will go. Just a few weeks ago, December 16th, an advisor to the president was on NPR and was played a prediction about, quote, businesses being raided and, quote, kids not in your schools. And Mary Louise Kelly asked Jason Miller what he thought. Jason Miller, is he wrong?

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So dismissing the idea of people vanishing from schools, what are we learning now?

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Okay, so we'll keep watching that to see how far it goes. What else is the administration saying about immigration?

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I appreciate the one thing you said. You said one of these moves about humanitarian parole accelerates a Biden decision. Biden's administration was also deporting people. This is a thing the United States does under any administration. But the terms are changing. And you mentioned when you were on the program yesterday that some people are suing over the new rules. Who else is suing now and why?

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Immigration officers have clearance to make arrests in schools and churches, places previously considered off-limits. We're getting them out of the country. They're going to be gotten out of the country first. How do the new rules change law enforcement? I'm Steve Inskeep with Leila Fadl, and this is Up First from NPR News.

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NPR's Ximena Bastillo, thanks for coming by.

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The president's nominee for secretary of defense is once again facing allegations of alcohol abuse and misconduct.

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Also, Israel launched a military operation in the occupied West Bank. How, if at all, does that fit in with the ceasefire that finally arrived in Gaza? Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day.

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Unsurprisingly, the affidavit is now public. NPR congressional correspondent Deirdre Walsh is among reporters who obtained copies. Deirdre, good morning.

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Okay, so what in this document adds to what was already known?

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Well, what does Hegseth say about all that?

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In a broad sense, said they were anonymous allegations and so forth. I guess the key question here involves Republican senators. How are they responding to this?

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Yeah, I guess we should note the political context as well, that President Trump has demanded this nominee and conservative groups have campaigned pretty strongly and threatened primaries and so forth against Republican senators. Deirdre, thanks so much. Thank you, Steve. That's NPR's Deirdre Walsh. Okay, the ceasefire in Gaza is holding in a fourth day.

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We're joined by NPR's Kat Lonsdorf, who was just there. Hey there, Kat. Hey. Okay, so we're told this military operation focuses on the Jenin refugee camp, which is a phrase we use from time to time in this coverage. But what do we mean when we say refugee camp?

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I feel we need to dwell always on the map here when we say West Bank. So there's Gaza, which is a separate area, which was the center of the war between Israel and Hamas, where there's now a ceasefire. The West Bank is a separate area, much bigger in size. Millions of Palestinians live there. A lot of Israeli settlers have also moved in with the sanction of the Israeli government.

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And we have this bit of news that President Trump, after his inauguration, has said he will end sanctions on Israeli settlers in the West Bank. What does that mean?

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How is all this affecting life in the West Bank?

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And of course there's a new presidential administration, as we mentioned. How do they view the West Bank?

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NPR's Kat Lonsdorf, thanks so much. Thank you. And that's up first for this Wednesday, January 22nd. I'm Steve Inskeep.

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Today's Up First was edited by Kelsey Snell, Krishnadev Kalamer, Jerome Sokolofsky, Olivia Hampton, and Alice Wolfley. It was produced by Ziad Budge, Chris Thomas, Milton Guevara, and Claire Murashima, who is pointing at me right now. That's when I talk, whenever she points. Anyway, we get engineering support from Robert Rodriguez and our technical director is Carly Strange. Join us tomorrow.

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Measles Outbreak, Foreign Aid Cuts, Bolsonaro Charges

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Okay, you mentioned vaccines there. Do health authorities feel they understand how this particular outbreak got going?

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Okay, I guess she's saying that it's a little bit harder to catch up to this disease and track and isolate it when you're in some of the rural areas. I'd like to know, though, is this outbreak in West Texas representative of things going on around the country?

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Samantha, thanks so much. Thank you. Samantha Larned is a reporter with member station KTTZ in Lubbock, Texas. President Trump's drive to cut back the federal government includes cuts to a traditional tool against China.

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NPR's Emily Fang has covered China for many years and is on the line. Emily, good morning. Hey, Steve, good morning. Okay, so why would the administration back off democracy promotion now?

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OK, so this is worldwide, the effects of these changes. But a good portion of the funding was supporting Chinese dissidents, some diversity of opinion within China. So what does China think of that? Yeah.

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Also, Brazilian authorities filed charges against a former president for a coup attempt. Do they put a former president on trial? Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day. Measles is spreading across parts of West Texas.

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Wow. Thanks for all that reporting. So what are some of these groups that risk getting their funding cut?

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Well, how does this affect Americans?

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That's NPR's Emily Fang. OK, Brazil's former president could be facing a long prison sentence for his participation in what authorities say was an attempt to overturn the country's election in 2022.

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NPR South America correspondent Carrie Khan has been following all of this. Carrie, good morning. Good morning. Wow. Coup attempt, inciting violence, poisoning. What more can you say about these accusations?

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Well, the draft of the speech, I guess, would be pretty strong evidence. But what has Bolsonaro said about the allegations?

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Well, these events took place almost two years ago. Had people been waiting for these charges a long time?

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Which is where we find Samantha Larned of our member station KTTZ. Samantha, good morning. Good morning. What's it like there?

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Okay, so long investigation, plea deals, 900-page report. Now we have the criminal charges. Where do we go next?

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NPR's Kerry Kahn, thanks so much.

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And that's a first for this Wednesday. And that's a first for this. We should have kept that in. I should have just kept going. Just a little hacking. A little bit of hacking. Exactly. Exactly. Got to wake up. That's all there is to it. And that's Up First for this Wednesday, February 19th. I'm Steve Inskeep.

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Today's Up First was edited by Alfredo Carvajal, Padmananda Rama, Tara Neal, Reena Advani, and Jenea Williams. It was produced by Ziad Butch, Nia Dumas, and Christopher Thomas. We get engineering support from Simon Laszlo Janssen, and our technical director, also always very supportive, is Stacey Abbott. Join us tomorrow.

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Other places have seen it too. So what's behind the return of a disease health officials once thought they had eradicated?

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Murder As An Act Of Terrorism, Fed's Rate Cut Decision, Female Mass Shooters

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What do police say about the online celebration of the murder?

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When does a murder also qualify as an act of terrorism?

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NPR's Sarah Ventry is covering the aftermath of this story in New York. Good morning. Good morning. Okay, why call it terrorism?

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But it keeps going on. Is this right? There's been crowdfunding for Luigi Mangione's defense?

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Okay, so that is the way that some people see this. Prosecutors see this as terrorism. What else do the charges say?

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Okay, so the suspect is not yet in New York. He's being held in Pennsylvania. How does he end up getting brought across state lines?

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Okay. NPR's Sarah Ventry will continue following the story, whatever happens. Thanks so much, Sarah.

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The cost of borrowing money to buy a car or grow a business could get a little bit cheaper this afternoon.

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NPR's Scott Horsley is covering this as always. Scott, good morning.

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Okay, so I know that Fed governors tend to signal, try to not surprise people and signal what they may be doing. So what do you expect the Fed to do?

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Also, we explore something rare about a school shooting in Wisconsin. The shooter was a girl. What does this teach us about the profile of people who commit such acts? Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day.

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Okay. And I guess we should just remember here, interest rates are linked with inflation. That's the main tool the Fed has for battling inflation. They went up because inflation went up. Now interest rates are going down. Does that mean the battle against inflation is over?

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I appreciate the metaphor. Thank you for extending it. But if inflation is that stubborn, why would the Fed cut interest rates again?

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When you say the word forecast, of course, we're talking about a change in presidential administrations, a big change in some big economic policies or policies that relate to the economy. How is the Fed preparing for that?

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I suppose by then we'll have some idea of what economic effect Trump's policies will have had, which ones he succeeded in imposing, how he did that, and what the effect is on inflation.

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The identity of a school shooter in Wisconsin is forcing us to think about what kinds of people would do something like this.

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NPR's Katie Riddle covers mental health and joins us. Hi there. Hi, Steve. How unusual is it to have a female shooter?

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Okay, more likely, meaning you might have boys who respond like this, you might have girls respond like this, but it's just that females are less likely to lash out this way?

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I appreciate that. She's saying don't stereotype somebody. Look at what's going on with the individual. But with that said, does this change anything in terms of red flags to look for?

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That's NPR's Katia Riddle. And if you or someone you know is in crisis, you can call or text 988. That's 988 to reach the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline.

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Today's episode of Up First was edited by Kevin Drew, Rafael Nam, Diane Weber, H.J. Mai, and Mohamed El-Bardisi. It was produced by Ziad Butch, Nia Dumas, and Katie Klein. We get engineering support from Nisha Heines, and our technical director is Carly Strange. Join us tomorrow.

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They all go before Senate committees. The Constitution and tradition give lawmakers the power of advice and consent. Supporters of President-elect Trump have pressured Republicans to consent. And the number two Senate Republican, John Barrasso, says Democrats should cooperate.

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Who gets a hearing today? I'm Steve Inskeep with Leila Fadal, and this is Up First from NPR News. In Los Angeles, firefighters are working to contain what remains of two wildfires that destroyed thousands of homes. Those who have homes to return to say they want to go back, but forecasters predict the Santa Ana winds will blow again.

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Senators have the power of advice and consent. Republicans say they'll go heavy on the consent.

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Still, forecasters are warning residents to stay on watch, and neighborhoods and fire zones remain locked down to the frustration of many homeowners. NPR's Martin Kosty is in L.A., and he joins us now with the latest.

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This is the first time that police there have detained a sitting president. Every word there matters somewhere. Last month, Yoon sparked a crisis when he briefly declared martial law.

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And I'm Steve Inskeep. Listen to Up First all sorts of ways, including our app. You hear local coverage from the NPR station that is closest to you and stories from every place else. You also get podcast suggestions based on what you like. Download the NPR app at your app store.

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The parent company of Facebook and Instagram is positioning itself for a new administration.

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NPR's Bobby Allen is covering this. Bobby, good morning. Hey there, Steve. Okay, so what was Meta doing and what are they going to be doing now?

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Bobby, when he says he's responding to the recent elections, that's very close to saying that he's adjusting policies for Trump.

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If we assume that Zuckerberg is acting out of business reasons here, what is the business case for currying favor with the president-elect?

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Also, clouds of smoke hang over neighborhoods in Southern California. Tens of thousands have had to evacuate.

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Winter definitely is not. It's cold and snowy in many places, and it's time for another annual tradition, the winter respiratory virus season.

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How widespread are the wildfires? Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day.

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You know, just before I went to bed last night, Renee Montaigne, the longtime former host of Morning Edition, sent over some photos from her neighborhood, images that showed orange-tinted smoke on the horizon in her part of Southern California.

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NPR's Liz Baker has the latest from Southern California. Liz, good morning.

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Wow. And the speed with which this happened is remarkable. One minute, nothing was happening. Another minute, I'm seeing these images on social media and in my text messages.

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I'm glad that one is out anyway. What is the damage so far as you can tell?

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Okay. NPR's Liz Baker, thanks for the update. Be safe, please. Thanks, Steve. She's in Los Angeles, where there are wildfires in the metro area. And that's Up First for this Wednesday, January 8th.

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Mark Zuckerberg announced the change. How does it fit with his other moves as the Trump administration returns to power?

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Well, the president certainly celebrated some of his more divisive or partisan achievements.

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Well, did the president talk about his plans for the year ahead? This can be a table setting moment.

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In this 90-minute or more speech, Franco, did anything go unsaid?

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That's White House correspondent Franco Ordonez. Franco, thanks so much. Thanks, Steve. Now, Democrats took note of what the president didn't say about prices. Senator Alyssa Slotkin of Michigan delivered the party's response.

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Slotkin argued that Trump's tariffs and other proposals will raise prices the opposite of what voters said they wanted in last year's election.

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NPR's immigration policy reporter Jimena Bastillo is listening in and is with us after a long night. Jimena, good morning. Good morning, Steve. Well, how did the president highlight immigration as you listened?

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Also, how is China responding to U.S. tariffs? The communist government has its own public ritual, the annual meeting of its one-party Congress. Our colleague John Ruich is there. and helps us to listen in. Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day. President Trump took the occasion of a speech to Congress to proclaim in his view that America is back.

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Now, the president made a claim during the address that illegal border crossings are at the lowest level ever recorded. What do the facts show you?

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Now, the president, interestingly enough, also talked about letting people in to the country. Future action on visas. What's he talking about?

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NPR's Ximena Bastillo. Get some sleep.

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Okay, President Trump was not the only world leader to give a big speech in front of a legislature in the past day.

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NPR's John Ruich was at the Great Hall of the People, a big building in the middle of Beijing, to hear this. And he's on the line. John, hi there.

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So did China's leaders use this occasion to respond to what President Trump was saying here, including about them?

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Oh, this is really interesting. I've been talking with economic and business figures connected with China who seem to think that tariffs will hurt Americans more than they're going to hurt the Chinese. But what are you hearing where you are?

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Okay, so that's the spin, and there's not nothing behind the spin, but also China's economy has really been struggling, sputtering, and doing strange things the last couple of years. So how do they address that?

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Okay, so I just want to note, there's a one-party Congress, not likely to have a failed vote or a close vote on anything, but it does, I guess, signal where the government is going. So what do you expect in the coming days?

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Really appreciate it, John. You're welcome. And that's a first for this Wednesday, March 5th. I'm Steve Inskeep.

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I should have described her fist pump as I said her name. He's ready. Stacey Abbott!

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NPR White House correspondent Franco Ordonez was listening to all of those minutes, and he joins us now. Franco, good morning.

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All you're doing this for is the symbolism, to be able to say, look, I moved these folks from the detention center across town to Guantanamo. It's all like very, very expensive flash with very little substance.

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A day when he says he's going to make good on a promise to impose tariffs on many, many countries.

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The president says he's made up his mind on which tariffs to impose where, although we don't know the details yet. Markets have been nervous leading up to this day amid concerns that taxes on imports hurt rather than help the U.S. economy and also raise consumer prices.

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I'm Steve Inskeep with Leila Fadal, and this is Up First from NPR News. It was the most expensive judicial race in U.S. history. And despite Elon Musk putting his money and support behind a conservative candidate, liberals held on to their state Supreme Court majority in Wisconsin.

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President Trump calls this Liberation Day, as in Tariff Day.

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How did this race become a referendum on Musk?

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Solid wins for Republicans, although the margins were a little bit less than they were just last year. In Wisconsin, in what became the most expensive judicial race in American history, the liberal judge Susan Crawford was elected to the state Supreme Court.

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She beat conservative Brad Schimel, who ran with Trump's endorsement, and some $20 million from Elon Musk, along with groups affiliated with him. Here's Crawford last night.

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President Trump's administration admits sending the man to El Salvador despite knowing about a court order preventing them from doing that. Responding to questions from reporters, Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt spoke of Kilmer Armando Abrego-Garcia.

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By calling it an administrative error, the government avoids saying they deliberately defied a court order. The government goes on to assert that a judge should have no power to overrule the mistake and the administration does not want to bring the man back anyway.

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His lawyers questioned the government's claim that he is a gang member at all, says he wasn't convicted of a crime, and that he was not supposed to be sent specifically to El Salvador.

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So how did you spend your New Year's Eve, Layla?

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That's great, that's great. And went to sleep. What'd you do? I stayed up with the kids until Rio de Janeiro at 10 o'clock Eastern time. Ooh, that's a fun one. Anyway, we also want to start the year by thanking everyone who joined NPR Plus or made a donation to the NPR Network or your local station during our end-of-the-year fundraising campaign.

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They began shortly after Ukraine's president addressed his nation. Volodymyr Zelensky acknowledged the agony of 2024 with heavy casualties and Russia's army advancing. Many Ukrainians fear this year will be harder.

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A collapse of the power grid left nearly all the island without electricity yesterday. The latest outage since Hurricane Maria hit Puerto Rico in 2017.

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Because it is January 1st, some people, maybe a few, might be listening to this with a slight hangover after ringing in the new year.

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NPR's Life Kit host, Mariel Segara, is here. Good morning. Good morning, Steve. And Happy New Year. Why might someone consider participating in Dry January?

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A big show. The first of the year. Exactly. Ukrainians set modest goals for the year now beginning.

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You mentioned it's everywhere in the culture. People are often expected to have a drink when they go out. It's how many people socialize.

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Okay, what's some other advice for people to get through 31 days of this?

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I love that insight. If you're not the designated driver, you're not stuck there. You can bail out. So if people do this, can they expect, I don't know, some side effects in their lives?

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I'm Steve Inskeep with Leila Fadl, and this is Up First from NPR News. A collapse of Puerto Rico's power grid left hundreds of thousands in the dark. Getting the lights back on everywhere could take more than a day, and a hurricane more than seven years ago may be at least partly to blame.

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NPR's Mariel Segara. Cheers. Cheers to you, Steve. And Happy New Year. If you want more from Life Kit about how to navigate dry January, they have a special newsletter you can sign up for at npr.org slash dry January.

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You know, every single one of those people probably has a New Year's Eve story as exciting as ours was.

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Good morning. We're having a heated discussion in here, not really heated, about the apostrophe in its IT apostrophe S versus ITS.

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You were wrong. I'm sorry. The discussion is Layla's wrong. It sounds the same. Layla's rarely wrong.

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Yeah, I don't know if you've been following this. An email went out over the weekend supported by a post on social media by Elon Musk telling federal workers to reply with five things that they did last week. And Musk publicly saying, if you don't do this, we're going to count it as your resignation.

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A number of cabinet agencies told their employees to ignore this email or to reply to the management of the agency. Various things. And now the acting director of the Office of Personnel Management has issued guidance, clarification, although things are not that much clearer. Charles Azell wrote that the agency should, quote, review responses and evaluate non-responses.

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not explicitly saying that you should or shouldn't write the email. He added it's up to agency leaders to decide how to proceed.

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Well, administration people have quoted a survey finding that only 6% of federal workers are coming into work, but that turns out to be false. And it turns out the vast majority do show up for the office. and a limited number have hybrid schedules or work from home.

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The United States broke with allies at the UN, refusing to blame Russia for its invasion of Ukraine. Is the U.S. burning its allies? Oh, my God. You did it a third time. I eliminated two of the apostrophes, and there's yet a third one. Oh, my gosh.

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Yeah, the United States opposed a resolution at the Security Council that demanded that Russia withdraw from Ukraine. American diplomats instead put forward a differently worded resolution that called for peace without blaming Russia for anything. Here's how U.S. Ambassador Dorothy Shea put it.

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And the Security Council did approve it with the United States, Russia, and China all voting yes. Britain and France abstained. The exact choice of words matters because what the Security Council approves carries the force of international law.

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No, I'm not. I'm sorry. That's terrible. The United States avoids blaming Russia for its invasion of Ukraine. U.S. allies differ at the U.N.

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President Trump has now put that money on hold, which leaves the river's big water users asking what's next.

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I'm Steve Inskeep with Leila Fadal, and this is Up First from NPR News. The Colorado River drought could get worse. The Trump administration put billions of dollars aimed at keeping the river flowing on hold.

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A once respected surgeon admitted to abusing hundreds of minors over decades, most of them while under anesthesia. The trial is set to last four months. Victims' advocates hope this will prompt a hard look at the failure of the system that should have prevented such abuse.

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I'm Steve Inskeep with Michelle Martin, and this is Up First from NPR News. Here is how the day unfolded at a Wisconsin school.

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Business leaders have been making their way there, tech CEOs, pharma CEOs, and yesterday the CEO of a Japanese investment bank promising to spend $100 billion in the United States. The president-elect talked about this at his first news conference since the election.

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In truth, some people wanted to be his friend last time, but there is a difference. People who don't like this say wealthy people are bending the knee, but how do the executives see it?

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At school, what do police know about the student who opened fire, killing two people and then herself?

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Pastor Marcus Allen worked to comfort the crowd with prayer.

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Police say a teenager opened fire at that school yesterday, killing two people and then herself. Six others are wounded.

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We can reveal this morning what doctors have done for the first time to save people who need organ transplants.

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Pig kidney, human being. NPR health correspondent Rob Stein was in the operating room during the procedure, the only journalist in there. Hi there, Rob. Hey, Steve. Wow, what an experience. What was it like?

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This is blowing my mind because you're telling me, Rob, not just that people are using a pig kidney because human organs are in short supply, which they are. They're using a pig kidney because they think in this case it is the best choice, better than a human organ for this person. So how did this operation come together?

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I especially like the applause there, Rob. So what happens now?

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Well, thanks for your eyewitness account, Rob. Really appreciate it.

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Hey, this is Steve Inskeep. We have some news for you as it looks at 6.17 in the morning Eastern Time. We have news not quite final of a ceasefire in the Middle East. A senior official speaking anonymously to our colleague Kat Lonsdorf in Tel Aviv says that Israel and Hamas and other negotiators are very, very close to a ceasefire agreement that could unroll over the next few weeks.

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Special Counsel Jack Smith will not record a criminal conviction against President-elect Trump. He will leave his conclusions for the history books.

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NPR's Kerry Johnson joins us now after a very late night and early morning on this story. Kerry, good morning. Good morning, Steve. What does it matter that Jack Smith's report would be public now, given that he's not going to prosecute?

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Because the final report was being argued over, the release of the report was being argued over in court, I had my doubts as to whether we would see it before January 20th, Inauguration Day. How did that work out?

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This involves a cease to shooting in Gaza for six weeks, the release of some but not all Israeli hostages, as well as the release of some Palestinians. That's our understanding. A little bit after 6 o'clock Eastern time. You can stay tuned to NPR News for the latest on this. And now here's the rest of today's news.

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In the end, she did not block it. And so last night you get these 150 pages. What stands out for you?

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And it is interesting, given that Trump and his supporters have characterized Smith very negatively, that Smith is saying, no, actually, we set an example. We were doing the right thing here. That is his case. Is that the last word from him?

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And there might be questions about those investigations, promised investigations and confirmation hearings to come. Carrie, thanks so much.

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NPR's Carrie Johnson. The physical devastation of the Los Angeles wildfires is plain.

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NPR's Katia Riddle is in Los Angeles. Katia, good morning.

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Okay, mental health strategies. What do you do?

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Jack Smith's report is now public. He writes that only the election prevented him from holding a trial on a case he would have won.

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And some are going to need that support while they're trying to deal with a home that was destroyed, rebuilding a neighborhood that has changed beyond recognition. Which makes me wonder, Katie, as you're talking, are we thinking in terms here of post-traumatic stress?

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NPR's Katie Riddle in Los Angeles, take care of yourself, okay?

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Today, President-elect Trump's choice to lead the U.S. military gets a public hearing.

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NPR Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman is covering this story. Tom, good morning.

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Isn't that part about management the essence of the job here? Because this is an assignment running one of the largest and most complex organizations in the history of the world.

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What he does seem to have, though, is opinions that match those of the president-elect on diversity, equity and inclusion.

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Listening to those numbers, Tom, tells me something. People will point out that on average, men are bigger and stronger than women. But some women are big and strong, and you're telling me there is a limited number of women, not 50-50, but a limited number of women who meet the standards.

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NPR's Tom Bowman will be listening to your coverage of the hearing. Thanks so much. Thanks. And that's a first for this Tuesday, January 14th, which just happens to be the 20th birthday. of my daughter, who's a listener to this podcast.

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Today, Today's birthday episode of Up First was edited by Emily Kopp, Diane Weber, Eric Whitney, Anna Yukonanoff, Ali Schweitzer, and Lisa Thompson. It was produced by Ziad Bach, Nia Dumas, Iman Maani, and Lily Quiroz. We get engineering support from David Greenberg, and our technical director is Stacey Abbott. You don't hear a thing unless she does her job, which she always does very well.

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Ukraine struck Russia today. It was the biggest ever drone attack on Moscow. According to Russian officials, the drone strikes hit a warehouse, killed and injured people, and briefly shut down the airports. It was a sign that Ukraine still has some striking power, even though it has lost some vital American support. Today, U.S. and Ukrainian negotiators meet to discuss that and much more.

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NPR Ukraine correspondent Joanna Kakisis is covering all this from Kiev. Hi there, Joanna. Good morning. Let's just remember the backdrop here. Ukrainians and Americans met at the White House. Last time they met, it was Volodymyr Zelensky who argued with Trump and Vance, President Trump and Vice President Vance, and they then berated him. So what does Ukraine hope for this time?

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Okay, so they have no choice but to come back to the table. Here they are. President Trump spoke with reporters over the weekend, and he said of Ukrainians, quote, I want them to want peace, although it is not clear at all what more the president wants than they have offered. So what's on the agenda for this meeting?

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So just a reminder, at this point, we're only talking about concessions by Ukraine. So what sort of concessions might the Ukrainians be willing to make?

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I guess the Ukrainians want to persuade the Trump administration that a peace deal isn't going to last if it's too easy on Russia. Is that it?

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Also, the Department of Education, not yet abolished, is telling 60 universities they may face penalties. The department describes last year's protests over Gaza as, quote, relentless anti-Semitic eruptions. Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day.

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NPR's Joanna Kikisis, always strong. Thanks so much.

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President Trump's tariffs and his remarks about a recession led to the worst day for the stock markets this year.

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And NPR financial correspondent Maria Aspin is following all of this. Good morning. Good morning. Okay, so why was there such a big drop yesterday?

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I guess we should just state the reality. There's always a chance of a recession. You would hope it would be in the future, but you don't know. I'm also thinking about the narrative that you lay out there, Maria, and it's not solely the threat of Trump's, but also the unpredictability. They're on, they're off, they're sideways. You just don't know. So how concerned should investors be?

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I noticed that some stocks are doing worse than others. The tech-heavy Nasdaq had its worst day in years. Is something else going on in the economy we should worry about?

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And Maria Aspin, thanks for your insights. Really appreciate it.

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Some other news now. A federal judge in New York ordered the government not to deport a college protest leader who was arrested by immigration officers over the weekend.

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NPR's Ryland Barton has been following the story and joins us now. Good morning.

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I'm just getting my brain around the idea that he was taken out of New York and taken all the way to Louisiana. So what all's going on here?

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Since you brought up the First Amendment, what does the law say about how that applies specifically to a green card holder? And how does all that match up with the facts of this case?

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How does this fit with the larger policies of the administration? The U.S. Education Department, I know, is telling dozens of universities they're under investigation for anti-Semitism as the administration sees it.

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Which paused its aid. So what does the U.S. want from Ukraine? What are the Ukrainians able to offer?

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And that's a first for this Tuesday, March 11th.

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Now, the trade war with Mexico and Canada is paused for now after the president made threats that jolted relations with a close U.S. ally. So how does all this look recently? From Canada, NPR international affairs correspondent Jackie Northam is in Ottawa. Jackie, good morning. Good morning, Steve. So how did the United States and Canada at least put off a confrontation?

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Yeah, I am thinking the Canadians made new measures at their border before the threat of tariffs. Now they've made even more apparently or promised something and still the threat of tariffs hangs over them for 30 days. How are people responding?

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Yeah, which I think people took as a joke when Trump first said that. But he keeps saying it again and again and again. So how do the two countries move forward?

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NPR's Jackie Northam, thanks so much for your work.

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Okay, some changes that are underway at the U.S. Department of Education with bigger potential moves on the horizon.

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Torrey, good morning. Corey, good morning. Good morning, Steve.

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Anyway, Corey, good morning by your proper name. What do you know about this executive action?

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Also, NPR has details of President Trump's plans for the Department of Education. Closing a cabinet department requires an act of Congress, so he will ask for one. Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day.

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Unless, of course, you operate within the rule of law and go to Congress and ask them to reconsider that. So what are the responsibilities that could be targeted by executive action?

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Although that's the system. That's checks and balances. That's the Constitution. So what you're saying is we expect an executive order that really is just a statement asking Congress to do what the president asks, which is the way the Constitution works. At the same time, you're reporting that some education department staff are being placed on leave. What's going on?

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Okay. NPR's Corey Turner will continue listening for your reporting on that. Thanks very much.

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And we have an update on the actions of the Department of Government Efficiency.

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NPR's Bobby Allen has covered Musk for years. Bobby, good morning. Good morning. Well, just remember, Department of Government Efficiency, DOGE, what have they done so far?

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We hear about things happening, and we're not exactly sure what the purpose is from the outside. How are people responding to this?

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Which means that he does have some formal government role, I guess. What is a special government employee?

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We felt betrayed. At the last moment, the U.S. paused its trade war. How's all this look from the U.S. ally to the North?

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Well, this raises a question. If Congress is not going to jump up immediately and if the White House says it's on board, are people who object in some way likely to take this to court?

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I'm thinking about some of the things Doge has done. There were actions over the weekend against the U.S. Agency for International Development. Musk acted as if he was shutting down the agency, which is arguably illegal, but it seems instead just to have been folded under...

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who talks of continuing some foreign aid and just reforming the agency, which a lot of people would like. Is it possible this agency is less radical than it seems?

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And that's a first for this Tuesday, February 4th. There's an exclamation point written down here. So I'm fourth. It's February 4th. Let the fourth be with you. I'm Steve Inskeep.

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New U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods went into effect today, and China has already retaliated.

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's closest airport. A jet was on its way into Reagan National Airport, and 64 people were on board. The plane followed the path of the Potomac, an experience millions of travelers have had at some point. If you have a window seat, you can see the monuments of the Capitol below, and you know you're almost there.

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I'm Steve Inskeep with Michelle Martin, and this is Up First from NPR News. The president says he plans to use the naval base at Guantanamo Bay to house people deported from the United States.

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And that is when the plane collided with one of the many other aircraft in the skies over Washington, an Army helicopter carrying three people.

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A passenger jet collided with a military helicopter in the skies over Washington, D.C. Rescuers are searching the icy Potomac River for survivors.

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Okay, are the facilities at Guantanamo equipped to hold tens of thousands of people?

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The president brought this up at a bill signing event. His notion was to detain what he called, quote, the worst criminal illegal aliens. Reusing the famous base is an idea that Trump brought up before his first presidential term, but he never did it. His Homeland Security Secretary acknowledges the administration would need an act of Congress to spend money on the idea now.

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Yeah, the president gave blanket clemency to all January 6th defendants, regardless of whether they violently assaulted police on that day. People got clemency for January 6th even when they had criminal records for other offenses on other dates, such as rape, sexual abuse, and domestic violence.

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Now, after that memo was taken back, White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt posted some more on social media. She said, quote, the president's executive orders on federal funding remain in full force and effect and will be rigorously implemented. The president had previously said he wants government agencies to eliminate diversity, equity, inclusion and other efforts he opposes.

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So apparently that part goes ahead. We will bring you more as we learn it. And that's up first for Thursday, January 30th. I'm Michelle Martin. And I'm Steve Inskeep. There's an easy way to stay connected to news and podcasts from the NPR network. It is the NPR app, which I use myself.

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Trump is pressuring the Ukrainian to submit to peace talks that so far have not included Ukraine. The U.S. also pressed Zelensky to sign an agreement that would share Ukraine's mineral rights with the United States. Zelensky has said Ukraine needs to be included in any negotiations, and it's in this context that the American president made a stream of remarks about the Ukrainian leader.

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Works every time. Well. I get that. Not quite every time. President Trump is pressuring Ukraine's president with personal attacks.

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That is the cost cutting effort championed by Elon Musk and President Trump. Musk made a stream of claims on social media in recent weeks about big savings. A Doge website kept promising receipts. And this week, the website published some, but those receipts add up to far less in savings than claimed.

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I'm Steve Inskeep with Michelle Martin, and this is Up First from NPR News. Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency claims to have trimmed billions of dollars from the federal budget.

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They will undergo forensic testing in Israel to confirm their identity. This is the first time that Hamas has released the bodies of hostages under the current ceasefire.

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Our correspondent added up the receipts and found a different number. What's the real bottom line?

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No, I slept. I slept. Well, what you do is you sleep badly for several nights in a row. Uh-huh. And then you're so tired.

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TikTok and the Department of Justice are heading to the Supreme Court. The court accepted TikTok's request to hear arguments about a law that could ban the viral video app next month. The court's chosen timing matters here as much as the decision to hear the case.

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I'm Steve Inskeep with Michelle Martin, and this is Up First from NPR News.

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The justices often move deliberately and take many months, but they chose in this case to move quickly, scheduling an argument for TikTok within three weeks on January 10th.

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Also, judges delivered verdicts in a French rape case that shocked many people around the world. The victim has become a feminist hero, but will the trial make a difference for others? Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day.

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For one thing, people can move. Refugees are coming home. Syrians who were stuck on one side or another in the many battle lines can cross them for the first time in years. And journalists can get a fuller look at a country in transition.

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51 men were on trial for raping a woman while she was drugged and unconscious over a period of years. Her husband was accused of orchestrating this abuse. The trial has shocked France and drawn the world's attention.

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I'm Steve Inskeep with A. Martinez, and this is Up First from NPR News. The auto industry gets a reprieve. President Trump pauses new tariffs on cars made in Canada and Mexico. U.S. automakers lobbied hard because their car parts cross both borders.

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Europe aims to increase defense spending after the U.S. withholds military aid from Ukraine.

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The president's latest sudden shift is only for carmakers. They are a huge source of cross-border business. It is common for parts to cross the border several times as American-made cars are assembled. U.S. automakers warned the tariffs would raise the price of their cars by thousands of dollars.

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An independent federal board ordered them reinstated for 45 days while its investigation into the firings continues.

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They're aiming to protect against Russia and do it with less help from the United States. The U.S., to be clear, remains part of the NATO alliance with troops based in Germany. But in recent days, the U.S. paused military supplies and intelligence sharing with Ukraine, bidding to force a peace with Russia.

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good morning to you you said good morning a martinez didn't say good morning he's too good for me oh morning no no i say hello because you don't want to presume it is a good morning for you or me do you say hola if you're speaking in spanish hola hello you don't say buenos dias um buenos dias i've had a turn on that one because it's like how dare you tell me to have a good day

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That is the phrase the Trump administration put into an email telling federal workers they can stay or go. Their unions have said it's not really much of a decision, asserting that the offer that looks like a buyout really isn't.

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You don't want to presume to instruct other people to be happy.

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Let's hear what some Palestinians think about the president who mused about their future.

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Which is where we found NPR's Kat Lonsdorf in the city of Ramallah. Welcome back. Hey, good morning. What are you hearing on the West Bank?

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And of course, the conflict over the land is central to the area where you are. You're outside of Gaza. You're in a much larger land area, the West Bank. You have millions of Palestinians there. You have Israelis who have founded settlements there and taken control of large parts of the West Bank. So what are people thinking and what is actually going on on the ground in the West Bank?

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Well, let's talk about that because Trump mentioned the West Bank as well when he did. dropped this surprise proposal for the United States to own Gaza, which the administration has walked back to some extent since. He also said that in the next few weeks, he'd be saying something about the West Bank. People must be wondering what that something is going to be.

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So says an employee at the Labor Department. What's the administration's next move?

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NPR's Kat Lonsdorf in the occupied West Bank. Thanks so much.

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Let's get a picture of what the United States is no longer doing as the administration tries to shut down a foreign aid agency.

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And Piers, Gabrielle Emanuel covers global health and has some facts to put all this in context. Good morning.

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Okay, so when we say the U.S. has been the largest donor of foreign aid, how much are we talking about?

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Okay, so we certainly spend more on other things, but it's $66 billion, which is a lot for foreign aid. What did that mean for certain places like, say, Ukraine, where the United States has paid so much attention?

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figure out where the U.S. interest lies. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said, listen, I want foreign aid to be in the U.S. national interest and not charity. At the same time, Rubio acknowledged sometimes foreign aid is in the U.S. national interest. So why does the United States traditionally provide this type of assistance?

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I suppose we should pause to say that there are members of Congress who assert that all of this is illegal. Congress has devoted the funding to USAID and created this agency and that its work it's supposed to go ahead, but we are told that everybody at USAID has been told to come home. So how's this playing out on the ground?

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Also, how is the U.S. competing for influence in the world as the administration tries to shut down a foreign aid agency? The administration told workers for USAID they should all return from abroad.

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Ah, trying to make sure it doesn't cross borders and you can see the U.S. national interest there, I suppose. NPR's Gabrielle Emanuel covers global health. Thanks so much. Really appreciate it.

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And that's a first for this Thursday, February 6th.

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We'll get up to date now on two incidents in two entertainment districts, an attack in New Orleans and an explosion in Las Vegas.

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Let's go to Drew Hawkins once again of Gulf States Newsroom. He's in New Orleans. Welcome back, Drew.

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How does this event look after a day since you last spoke with us here?

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What do police know about the suspect in the attack that killed 15 people on Bourbon Street? The ISIS flag was found in his vehicle. President Biden also said he was inspired by ISIS. So what's that mean? FBI investigators include counterterrorism experts and bomb techs.

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I'm just dwelling on the details you give us there. Possible co-conspirators, but we don't really know. The president says inspired by ISIS, which sounds more like an ideological connection. But of course, we don't know that. And we'll be getting in a moment to more details about the individual. What are city officials saying about how the driver got past police, though?

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That question has got to be just one part of what's affecting the mood in New Orleans right now.

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Tell me a little bit about the victims.

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Okay. Drew Hawkins with Gulf States Newsroom in New Orleans. Thanks so much for your insights. Thanks, Steve. Now, the suspect was a native of Texas.

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Lauren McGaughy with the Texas Newsroom has been working to learn more about him. Hi there, Lauren. Good morning. So what have you found out about this man's life up until the moment when he attacked in New Orleans?

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This underlines some of the frustrations at moments like this. You can see this person's difficulty in life, shortage of money, divorce, business failures, but of course these are things that happen to lots of people who do not respond in this way. What about his military service?

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Lauren McGaughy of the Texas Newsroom bringing us the results of a team of reporters working on this. Thanks so much.

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Okay, now, investigators are looking for any possible connections between that attack in New Orleans and the New Year's Day explosion of a Tesla Cybertruck in front of a Trump Hotel in Las Vegas.

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NPR's Frank Lankford is covering this story. Hi there, Frank. Hey, good morning, Steve. Can you work us through the best understanding of what happened?

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What do police know about the man who was in that vehicle, the person who was in that vehicle?

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So he's identifying dots, not yet connecting the dots, which seems prudent at this early stage. Do investigators know what made the truck explode?

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On the Gulf Coast, they identified an attacker who was a veteran from Texas. In Nevada, the question is what made a Tesla Cybertruck explode outside a Trump Hotel.

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Interesting. Now, is there anything concrete to connect this to the incident in New Orleans?

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One other thing, what does Elon Musk say?

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Okay, NPR's Frank Langfitt, thanks so much.

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And that's up first for this Thursday, January 2nd, 2025. I'm Steve Inskeep.

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The interim U.S. attorney here in Washington, D.C., where we are, Ed Martin, has several times said he has reached out to specific Democratic lawmakers, such as Chuck Schumer, the Senate Democratic leader, to ask for clarification about various remarks that he regarded as threatening. I'm interested if you or your fellow Democrats are at all feeling intimidated or silenced.

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Do you think other Democrats are watching their words?

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Some Republican or many perhaps will be listening to this and thinking, wait a minute, actually, you're the ones who are prosecuting us. You are the guys who are weaponizing the Justice Department. How would you respond to somebody who may be thinking that?

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It seems clear you would want to make a case then that this is a corrupt administration that's abusing power. Does the Democratic Party have some challenge in making that case, though, because of certain things that go on in the Democratic Party or even in your state of New York or your city of New York, where your mayor is Eric Adams?

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Who was indicted until recently, just for starters.

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Here's some of our conversation. If you had to pick one word, what is a word that describes the state of your party right now?

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Is there another problem Democrats face because you would like government to work? And there's a broad perception, including among many liberals and progressives, that government doesn't work very well. It takes forever to build something in this country, to give a very obvious example.

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We do have a couple million federal workers, and a lot of people aren't sure how those people really touch their lives or do anything for them. Do you think government really isn't working well enough?

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The Democrat wants to find her party's way back into power. It's a special episode of Up First from NPR News. I'm Steve Inskeep. Ocasio-Cortez wants to win back working class voters who supported President Trump in 2024, which leads to a question. To what extent is immigration as an issue part of your problem with working class voters?

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Would you like a president to go in and break some china and mess things up, even if you don't like the way this president is trying to do that?

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It's not shocked or dismayed or anything like that at this moment?

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Representative Ocasio-Cortez, thanks so much for coming by.

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez spoke with us in NPR Studio One here in Washington, D.C. You can watch the full interview on camera at the NPR app or on our website, npr.org, or on YouTube. This special episode of Up First was edited by Susan Davis, Kelsey Snell, and Reena Advani. It was produced by Adam Beirne.

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Engineering support came from Neil T. Vault and Hannah Glovna, and our executive producer is Kelly Dickens. I'm Steve Inskeep. Thanks for joining us.

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Just before we talk, the situation evolved a bit more. House Republicans approved a budget plan with hardly a vote to spare. Ocasio-Cortez joined every Democrat in voting no.

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She focused especially on one large number, $880 billion. That's the amount of savings that Republicans propose to find, much of it likely from Medicaid, which provides health care for millions. When asked this week, Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson defended those cuts.

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez challenged the Justice Department to say if she's under investigation.

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And he told reporters at the Capitol that the change would not affect care.

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In our conversation, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez essentially did disagree, casting doubt that cutting waste could save so much.

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The erosion of Democratic Party support among working class voters has been pretty well documented. It seems to cross racial and other lines. It's real. And Democrats have talked a lot about what they maybe did wrong and the way that they spoke or the way they approached people or the way that they acted. But I want to flip that around a little bit.

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What do you think President Trump has done right that has appealed to traditional Democratic constituencies?

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Some of those promises are things that Democrats themselves would like, capping interest rates on credit cards, to give one example. Has there been some discussion among Democrats that, I mean, you're almost a little envious he's gotten ahead of you on some of these issues?

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I think of another aspect of this, though. Dean Phillips, one of your fellow Democratic members, was on television this past week, Fox News as a matter of fact, and he appeared to wish Democrats acted a little more like Trump in this way. He wished that they would appeal to business people, to get smart people into government, to talk about efficiency.

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Also, did Trump get ahead of Democrats on working class economic issues? And have Democrats lost ground because they're bad at governing? Stay with us. We'll put those questions and more to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

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He seemed to wish Democrats would do what Elon Musk is doing, even if he doesn't agree with the way that Elon Musk is doing it.

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Which is the thing that's in the news. It's being discussed.

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was talking in NPR Studio One. We met with her at a moment when Democrats are out of power and trying to find their way back in. And we're reaching the point in our conversation where we asked about one of the most polarizing issues, immigration. Surveys suggest that President Biden's handling of that issue cost Democrats votes, even in some immigrant communities.

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So can Democrats push back against a president they see as lawless while also defending people in the country who lack legal status? Her answer comes right after this. It's a special edition of Up First. I'm Steve Inskeep. The first time I talked with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was June 27th, 2018.

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It was the morning after a primary election in New York when a leading House Democrat, Joe Crowley, lost his seat. On the radio the next morning, we heard Crowley singing in tribute to the woman who defeated him. Let's hear that moment from 2018. Born to run, as Springsteen fans will know. Crowley was singing for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She's 28 years old.

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She's a former organizer for presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, and she is on the line after an enormous upset. Good morning.

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And congratulations to you. Did you appreciate the song?

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But what do you think you offered the voters that Joe Crowley, with all of his experience, did not?

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That was Ocasio-Cortez in 2018. She was progressive, a Democratic socialist. And after her surprise win that got her into Congress, she sometimes backed efforts to unseat other leading Democrats. She was said to be a member of the squad, progressive women who confronted President Trump during his first term.

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And in 2019, Trump lashed out at them, as described back then by our correspondent Franco Ordonez.

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In fact, all four lawmakers had been born in the United States. The harshness of Trump's language and actions about immigration seemed to contribute to his unpopularity back in 2019. But in more recent years, the issue has changed. President Biden defeated Trump in 2020, undid some of Trump's immigration policies, and then seemed to lose the immigration debate.

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Many voters saw the administration as far too lax toward migrants who lacked legal status. Biden finally cracked down, but was replaced by Trump, who promised mass deportations. And that led us to a question in our interview with Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. To what extent is immigration as an issue part of your problem with working class voters?

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People voting for the other side and not for you, feeling that Democrats are not serious about the issue in ways that concern them.

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Well, they do want to address undocumented people by removing them. I mean, that's what the president is attempting now.

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is one of the Democratic Party's biggest stars. When she was first elected in 2018, she was very much an outsider, a social media phenomenon, often a critic of her party's programs and leaders. Now she's seen as more of an insider, a somewhat more senior figure, still a big star.

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Why do you think this issue did seem to be a political loser for Democrats among key groups and key constituencies, if what you say is true?

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And you have voters in places like Arizona, which is a swing state that Democrats lost, or Colorado, which is generally a blue state, saying, there's a lot of chaos. There's a lot of lawlessness. I don't know what to do here. Who's looking out after me?

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Since the election, many Democrats have said that they need a tougher approach to immigration. Ocasio-Cortez still argues that many people who are here without legal status should stay, and that led to a recent dispute with Tom Holman, the president's border czar. You held an online forum, a Know Your Rights forum, that he didn't like. What were you doing? What was your goal as you saw it?

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Holman was upset, I suppose, because he felt that you were giving advice to people who were here illegally. Were you?

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He said he was going to report you, or even that he did reach out to the Department of Justice. Have you heard from the Department of Justice?

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Really? What would your question be for the Department of Justice?

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Now, after our interview, Ocasio-Cortez sent a letter to the Justice Department, which she shared with NPR. It asks Attorney General Pam Bondi if she has, quote, yielded to political pressure trying to weaponize the agency against elected officials whose speech they disagree with. We reached out to the Justice Department and they told us they received the letter.

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And so we brought her here to Studio One to ask what she thinks her party can do with its current dilemma. Democrats are out of power in Washington. They're watching President Trump enact his agenda. And they know the president has great appeal with a large part of their traditional base, the working class, people Ocasio-Cortez would feel that she would like to represent.

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They say they also just received, quote, 29 violent cartel leaders who were recently extradited back to the United States. We are more focused on the latter, the Justice Department says, without directly addressing whether AOC is under investigation or not. Here's more of our interview with the New York Democrat.

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Okay, Layla, we've made it almost to the end of 2024. Thank God. Well, it was an interesting year. We had a presidential election. The Israel-Hamas War continued. Hurricane Helene. The Summer Olympics. Astonishing stories. A story you covered just in recent weeks that nobody seemed to see coming. The fall of Syria's ruler.

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We are expecting more than a week of events to remember the life of Jimmy Carter, who's died at the age of 100.

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Let's go back to the beginning of this 100-year story. NPR's Stephen Fowler is in Atlanta, one of the places where Carter will be remembered. Stephen, good morning.

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He told people he would never lie to them and that he would never duck a controversial issue, but there certainly turned out to be plenty of controversy during his presidency.

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There are historians in more recent times who've argued that his presidency was more successful than it seemed at the time. But the one thing that people seem to agree on now is his post-presidency, more than 40 years long.

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And now we're going to spend more than a week remembering him. What are the funeral plans?

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NPR Plus. Oh, NPR Plus. Sorry, go on.

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Stephen, thanks very much. Really appreciate it. Thank you. That's NPR's Stephen Fowler in Atlanta.

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This is fascinating. He told NPR's Hadil al-Shalchi that Syria wants to have cordial ties and wants the U.S. to help facilitate cordial ties. Syria and Israel, not something you hear every day from an Arab-led government, let alone one made up of rebels who once had ties to al-Qaeda. The shockwaves from that statement are reverberating through the region.

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South Korea has begun days of mourning after one of the worst aviation disasters in the country's history.

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NPR's Anthony Kuhn is at the scene of the disaster. Hey there, Anthony. Hey, Steve. What are you seeing?

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Yeah, which always takes a long time with aviation disasters. What are you hearing from family members?

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President Biden announced more than a week of events, including a state funeral.

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What else are you hearing from family members?

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Amazing that two people survived. What information is available about the cause?

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NPR's Anthony Kuhn, thanks for your reporting from the scene. Really appreciate it. Thank you, Steve. And that's Up First for this Monday, December 30th. I'm Steve Inskeep.

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Today's Up First was edited by Anna Yukonanoff, Andrew Sussman, Ryland Barton, Jan Johnson, and Alice Wolfley. It was produced by Katie Klein, Nia DeMoss, and Julie Deppenbrock. We get engineering support from Arthur Laurent, and our technical director is Carly Strange. Join us tomorrow.

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Also, a man talks of seeing off family members who boarded an airplane that crashed over the weekend. Our colleague Anthony Kuhn is at a South Korean airport where many families want answers. Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day.

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I'm Steve Inskeep with Michelle Martin, and this is Up First from NPR News. Negotiators from the United States and Ukraine met in Saudi Arabia over the weekend to iron out a ceasefire deal with Russia. But as bombs keep falling on Kyiv, is a real truce even possible?

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I think Bibi feels that he's doing the right thing. I think he goes up against public opinion because public opinion there wants those hostages home.

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Ukraine's defense minister called these conversations productive. The Americans meet the Russians next. So far, both sides have agreed to stop targeting each other's energy infrastructure, although Ukraine's president says that is far from a genuine ceasefire.

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Israel is making plans to occupy Gaza.

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This is where China's second highest government official spoke this week. Li Chang addressed a big business forum here. There were a lot of international CEOs in the room, including Americans like Tim Cook of Apple, and they heard him suggest that China, not the U.S., is the stable country now, the country that plays by the rules, he said.

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Now, the Chinese premier did not mention Donald Trump or tariffs, but did speak of rising instability in the world and called for open markets. Our colleague Anthony Kuhn is here in Beijing. He's a longtime China watcher. And Anthony, it's great to be face to face with you since we normally talk over thousands of miles on the line.

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Thank you very much. Glad to be here. What is China doing with remarks like that about about the situation in the world?

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Of course, when we talk with Americans who do business in China, we hear some skepticism about the idea that China is truly that open. They have their own issues with the Chinese market. But you mentioned preparations for a trade war. Is China doing other things to strengthen their economy itself? Yes.

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Israel is considering a ground invasion to fully occupy the territory within a few months and establish Israeli military rule over Palestinians there. It's unclear whether these plans will actually be carried out. We do know that Israel resumed its war in Gaza, where Palestinians have updated their death count, saying it surpassed 50,000.

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Now, you've done some reporting on trying to get private businesses a little more space in China. The government made an effort, I know, in recent weeks to pass a law that would assure the rights or at least the privileges of private businesses here. Is that opening for real? Is that effort for real?

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You know, you've lived here, I want people to know, for decades, ever since the early 1980s, which was the beginning of China's opening to the world. You've moved away, but still been pretty nearby in Seoul. And now you're back for an extended visit. What sticks with you?

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Okay. Anthony, it's a pleasure talking with you. Thank you so much. We'll continue listening for your reporting through the week.

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And I'm Steve Inskeep. The NPR app lets you keep public radio in your pocket. You'll find a mix of local, national, and international news, plus the best podcasts from the NPR network, just by downloading the NPR app, which is in your app store, also in your pocket.

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The fall of Syria's longtime president means different things to different people there.

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Okay, Leila, let's follow up on this. Who would be concerned about life not improving or even getting worse after this regime is gone?

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Well, since you raise it, let me ask if people did anything that they now need to be worried about. Did people in that Alawite sect lead a life of privilege under the old regime?

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Okay, so he's against the old regime. He's still worried about being targeted by the new regime. Are people where you were being targeted?

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Also, ABC News settled a defamation lawsuit with President-elect Trump. The network will donate millions to his presidential library, even though experts felt ABC had a strong legal defense. So why pay? Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day.

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Leila, thanks for all the subtleties. Really appreciate it.

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Senior Biden administration officials have been in the region pushing the negotiations, which they say have been intense lately. Secretary of State Antony Blinken is just back from his latest trip to the Middle East.

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Israeli airstrikes in Gaza continue with the Palestinian death toll climbing to nearly 45,000.

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Why did ABC News settle a lawsuit with President-elect Trump? The TV network is making a $15 million donation to Trump's future presidential library and also posting a statement of regret. That is the settlement over remarks by anchor George Stephanopoulos during an interview.

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The settlement comes just as an incoming administration talks of using the power of government and the legal system to penalize news coverage they don't like. NPR media correspondent David Falkenflich is covering all this. David, good morning.

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We've heard people dance in the streets. Now we hear from Syrians who ask if the collapse of the old order might bring retribution against them.

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I'm just thinking about that. So according to the judge, this is something of a subtlety and it's involving a public figure where normally you can have very, very wide latitude to say all sorts of things. What had legal experts said about the merits of Trump's case against ABC News?

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Yeah, absolutely. It matters who you are. If you're totally a private citizen, maybe if somebody says something terrible about you, you can sue. It gets harder when you get more famous. So why, in this case, did ABC News settle?

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NPR's David Folkenflik, thanks so much. You bet. And that's Up First for this Monday, December 16th. I'm Steve Inskeep.

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NPR's Team Damascus for Up First includes Arzu Rezvani and Taylor Haney. Today's episode was edited by Carrie Kahn, Emily Kopp, H.J. Mai, and Mohamed El-Bardisi. It was produced by Ziad Butch, Nia Dumas, and Katie Klein. We get engineering support from Arthur Laurent, and our technical director is Zach Coleman. Join us tomorrow.

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Gavin Newsom says he wants to restore neighborhoods as quickly as possible. And for people restoring their homes, he will use his power to waive California's famously challenging environmental reviews. First, though, the fires have to burn out and they have killed an estimated 24 people so far as we know.

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I'm Steve Inskeep with A. Martinez, and this is Up First from NPR News. Negotiations are underway to end the war in Gaza before President-elect Trump takes office next week.

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Thousands of firefighters have come to Los Angeles to help slow the spread of the two biggest wildfires.

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Diplomats and officials from the U.S., Israel, and Hamas are all in Qatar, not all sitting in the same room, but close by. After 15 months of war, they're trying to be creative in getting some kind of agreement. The goal is to end the fighting and secure the release of Israeli hostages before President-elect Trump takes office on January 20th.

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Yeah, Alejandro Mayorkas oversaw border security and immigration, big issues in President-elect Trump's victory in November.

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Mayorkas said that here in Studio 31 during an exit interview.

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Well, he argued the administration's record is stronger than they managed to get across before the election. And it is true that a key number that the Border Patrol uses is way down encounters with people at the border, which is a way to try to get an idea of whether things are going up or down. It's way down. There was, of course, though, a huge surge in asylum seekers back in 2023.

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So it's down from that high level. Mayorkas says the U.S. is also sending away asylum seekers who do not have a strong claim to stay here. How many people have you deported, say, in the last year?

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Is that higher than it would have been a few years ago?

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It's worth noting here that while Republicans criticized the administration for not doing anything, immigrant rights groups sometimes said the administration was being too harsh. And Mayorkas is a former prosecutor. He's effectively saying here the Biden administration ultimately has delivered the border security that Republicans ran on.

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Well, he knows that Republicans plan to pass a border security bill, which they refused to do last year. He knows that Republicans plan a lot more than border security. They plan mass deportations. Although let's talk about where we are now. He says the U.S. already deported a quarter million people in the past year.

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He says if you expand that number, you're going to need a lot more resources and you may also face some moral questions.

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Well, there are a lot of painful scenarios in sending people away, and some of them involve mixed status families, U.S. citizens in a household with people here illegally, like parents who had children in the United States, for example.

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Yeah, he did the other day on NBC. He said he doesn't want to break up the family, so he wants to send them all back. To whatever country. Mayorkas talked us through the brutal realities of that law. Biden, he says, tried to keep mixed-status families together inside the United States. Republicans sued. Courts threw that out.

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So if you're going to keep the family together, the remaining option is to make everybody leave, even U.S. citizens. Let's listen.

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Would they have any legal defense against that situation?

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He says it's not something the Biden administration wanted to do, but that a new president has said he is determined to try. And I find it useful at this moment, A, just to kind of get a baseline on where we start here, because the Biden administration did ramp up deportations, did ramp up border security at the very end.

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And so that's the point at which the Trump administration begins promising massive changes.

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He did not say that he did. I think that he sees this as a continuing process and he did everything that he could. All right. Steve, thanks. Glad to do it.

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And I'm Steve Inskeep. You know, we at Up First give you three big stories of the day, like we just did. Our colleagues at Consider This take a different approach diving into a single story and what it means to you. Also, in just 12, 15 minutes, listen now on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Mark Carney won a kind of mini-election among Liberal Party members, and his landslide win means he will now replace Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who's leaving office just as Canada faces a confrontation with the United States.

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I'm Steve Inskeep with A. Martinez and this is Up First from NPR News. Immigration authorities arrested a Columbia graduate student who led protests over Gaza. His lawyer says agents gave no reason.

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Canada's new prime minister says he's ready for conflict with its neighbour and up to now closest ally.

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What due process, if any, does the government owe a legal permanent resident?

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His name is Mahmoud Khalil. His lawyer tells NPR that officers from ICE, that's Immigration and Customs Enforcement, picked him up at his university apartment. They told him his green card had been revoked. Green card. He was a lawful permanent resident. President Trump had promised to deport students who protested against Israel during the war in Gaza.

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They're doing what lawmakers have done again and again and again and again in recent years. Instead of passing the annual 12 spending bills in what's called regular order with a lot of choices and compromises, Republicans want to largely keep the government running on autopilot under last year's budget numbers for a while.

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While they discuss all this, Congress needs to approve something by Friday or face another government shutdown.

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And I'm Steve Inskeep. Thanks for joining us for Up First. You can find more in-depth coverage of the stories we discussed and more on NPR's Morning Edition, the radio show that A. Martinez co-hosts with Michelle Martin, Leila Fadal, and myself, me. Find Morning Edition on your local NPR station at stations.npr.org.

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Markets have fallen since last Wednesday when President Trump launched a trade war against most of the world. Asian and European markets fell overnight, and not by a little. Japan's Nikkei Index dropped almost 8% of its value. Here in the United States, economists are increasing their odds of a recession. The investment bank Goldman Sachs says we're close to 50-50 odds.

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And in making that estimate, Goldman assumes that Trump will not go through with a plan for the biggest tariffs to hit on Wednesday. If that should happen, Goldman simply forecasts recession.

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I'm Steve Inskeep with A. Martinez, and this is Up First from NPR News. The Trump administration has a midnight deadline to return a man deported to El Salvador in what a federal judge called a grievous error. So why has the Department of Justice put its attorney on administrative leave?

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President Trump's trade war prompted even more market declines, which he dismissed.

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A federal judge ordered the administration to bring back Quilmar Armando Albrego Garcia, who was arrested and deported last month in what the judge described as an illegal act. The Justice Department is appealing that order, and it placed the attorney who argued its case on administrative leave.

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Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. attended the child's funeral on Sunday and identified the child as 8-year-old Daisy Hildebrand. Until this year, the United States had not reported a measles death for nearly a decade. Now, an outbreak centered in Texas has 481 confirmed cases.

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And I'm Steve Inskeep. Your next listen is Consider This from NPR. We hear it up first, give you three big stories of the day, and our colleagues at Consider This dive into a single news story and what it means to you in less than 15 minutes. Listen on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Well, we've been visiting the source of your stuff, Michelle. Things like hairpins, pots and pans, toys. You've got a grill, don't you? You got a grill? I do. And pots and pans. Okay, well, we saw a place where they sell enormous numbers of grills.

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A lot of that kind of consumer stuff comes to America through a Chinese trading city called Yiwu, Y-I-W-U, Yiwu, where thousands of wholesalers ship products from nearby factories. Our tour through this area gave us a little bit of news, how some Chinese businesses are responding to those tariffs, and also a picture of life.

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This international trading market is like a shopping mall next to a shopping mall next to a shopping mall. And I walked through with our colleague, Rina Advani, and we recorded as we went. Let's just listen to a little bit of that.

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So there's an umbrella store, nothing but umbrellas.

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Light bulbs, like a light bulb store, that's what they sell. Shop after shop after shop, and then we settled in at a display room for hardware. I've been going around the store just writing down things that are for sale. Spades, saws, staplers, caulk guns, garden shears, wire cutters, bolt cutters, garden hose nozzles.

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that the Chinese suppliers of our goods are dealing with those tariffs in different ways. The hardware store seller who's selling screwdrivers, jackhammers, any number of things, says she thinks that her tools are in demand and that American consumers are just going to pay more. She's not changing her prices.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. She says she's just going to improve the packaging and marketing a little bit. But with that said, we also heard some stories of people who have lost business or agreed to make some tradeoffs. OK, what do you mean by that? Well, for example, a seller of hairpins and claw clips told us she had an order from Target, and they said, would you pick up half the cost of the tariffs?

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She tried to negotiate, and they delayed the order. She's losing the business. We also met a guy who sells thousands and thousands of toys made on 3D printers. He says one of his clients asked for half the tariffs to be paid by him. He said, sure, his business is expanding, and regardless, tariffs or not, he is raising his prices. So what's the bottom line here?

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That there is a give and take, I guess. It seems like suppliers will, in fact, pay some of the tariffs, but American consumers will, too. And it's also clear to us from here that China has some options. They sell all over the world, including outside of the United States, in a rapidly changing marketplace.

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Holman was upset, I suppose, because he felt that you were giving advice to people who were here illegally. Were you?

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He said he was going to report you or even that he did reach out to the Department of Justice. Have you heard from the Department of Justice?

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Really? What would your question be for the Department of Justice?

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Well, Leila, because of the trade war that the United States has launched with China, I want to see what this looks like from the other side. how the Chinese are responding to American tariffs, and also a broader new U.S. attitude toward the world. If you think about things like the effort to ban TikTok, to give just one example.

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One of the things we're going to be doing is going to this big Chinese business conference. If you've heard of things like the big Davos meeting in Europe, this is the very rough equivalent of that. The China Development Forum, global business people gather, and it's a chance for us to try to listen in and get a sense of what's going on with the economy.

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International CEOs from Europe, from the United States, specialists on China and its economy. From what we've heard so far, the Americans are going to be a little sparse, but some will be there. And I'm going to be listening to the way that business leaders talk about the climate now and also how the Chinese government tries to position itself as the United States assumes a new role in the world.

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Well, the big picture is a little bit slower growth than in the past. Real estate prices, the fall in real estate prices are dragging things down. A lot of people don't feel as wealthy because their homes are worth less. Consumer spending is low. Consumer confidence is low. At the same time, China's high-tech development is pulling them up. They're dominating industries like electric vehicles.

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They're being more competitive than people expected in artificial intelligence, on and on. But we want to get at some of the nuances of how China's economy is growing and how it's changing. And that is what we're going to hear in days to come, along with an NPR team that includes John Ruich. and Anthony Kuhn. There's going to be some news out of China.

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China's president is widely expected, perhaps, to have a meeting with international CEOs, and we'll try to follow it all.

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Okay, so United States, Guantanamo, Honduras, Venezuela, zigzagging around the Caribbean and surrounding areas. So I want to figure out what we've learned here.

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OK, so I guess some of them were accused of crimes. Some of them were not accused of crimes other than entering the United States illegally and they went to Guantanamo. Here's my next question. If they sent people to Guantanamo briefly, only to send them onward to other places, it's a way station, it's a transfer point.

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Who is the United States sending to Guantanamo? We have some idea now that the U.S. has sent migrants to that base and back out. Our correspondent tells us what court filings reveal about some migrants removed from this country.

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OK, so they're sending a signal either to the U.S. public or to future migrants about what they want to do to people who come to the United States. Another question now, Sergio, what was the lawsuit that you mentioned earlier?

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NPR's Sergio Martinez Beltran, thanks for your reporting. Really appreciate it. You're welcome. In Israel, authorities say a body returned by Hamas, a hostage, is not who the militants claimed it to be.

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I just have to ask, what happened?

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Here in the United States, the Trump administration laid off some FEMA workers and people involved in the Emergency Management Agency tell NPR it's backing off work on building codes to make buildings more resilient. What's changing and why? Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day. We have a clearer picture this morning of how the Trump administration is using the U.S.

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Each of these hostage returns, whether the people are living or dead, has been horrifying in one way or another and dismaying to people in Israel. So what does all this mean for the next steps, another hostage exchange and the next phase of the peace talks?

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Hadil, what is this news of explosions in Tel Aviv in Israel that has come out in the same 24-hour period as the hostage exchange of the bodies returned?

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NPR's Adil Alshalchi, thanks for your reporting. Really appreciate it, as always.

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In this country, President Trump's administration has brought its firings to FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the people who help local authorities in disasters.

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Lauren Sommer with NPR's Climate Desk is covering this story. Lauren, good morning. Good morning. How many people were fired?

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Okay, so 200 firings, but it is an agency with thousands. So how would this affect their response in a disaster?

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naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

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Although didn't the president suggest that FEMA wasn't necessary when he was talking during the Los Angeles fires?

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This is really interesting reporting you have here, and I want to talk about this. There is a wider debate over building requirements. There are even liberals and progressives as well as conservatives who think we've made it too hard to build stuff. and that it's bad for society.

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But I assume you're talking here about relatively narrow recommendations about how to make your house or your building survive a disaster.

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And we've learned some information about them along the way. So let's go to NPR immigration correspondent Sergio Martinez Beltran. Sergio, good morning.

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Thanks so much. Thank you. And that's Up First for this Friday, February 21st. I'm Steve Inskeep.

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And then on Sunday in this same feed, our Sunday story goes deep. A journalist tries to understand his own father's belief in conspiracies.

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Listen to The Sunday Story on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Federal agencies run out of money at midnight tonight. It is not clear how Congress will do one of the most basic parts of its job, which is to fund the daily operations of the federal government.

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Congress has the deadline of tonight to fund the federal government. Elon Musk and President-elect Trump instructed Republicans to kill a bipartisan plan. Then the House rejected Trump's preferred alternative. What now?

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Just taking a breath. NPR congressional correspondent Deirdre Walsh has been covering all of this and is up early once again. Hi there, Deirdre. Good morning, Steve. Why did plan B fail?

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I'm just thinking about pure numbers in the House of Representatives. They needed a two-thirds vote. So they needed Democrats to support this, right? They did. And so then they did this thing where they didn't even negotiate with Democrats. So you knew it was going to fail. Then it didn't even get a majority because a lot of Republicans turned against it. And so what's plan C? There isn't one.

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Also, a rebel group toppled Syria's government with surprising ease. Now it's their job to build a new government that includes everyone in a divided country. How could they do it? Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day.

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So what does this mean if Republicans feel they need to obey President-elect Trump and or Elon Musk in saying no to things, but then they won't even say yes to things necessarily? What does this mean for next year?

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And Pierce Deidre Walsh covered the last Trump administration and will be covering Congress in this one. Thanks so much.

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We have a closer look this morning at the battle for one Ukrainian city.

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NPR's Brian Mann made it into Pokrovsk yesterday and joins us. Hey there, Brian.

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I appreciate this description. Somebody was pointing out to me the other day that this war is like World War I trench warfare, except with drones overhead all the time and other things that make it more horrifying. Now, you suggested a moment ago that a lot of civilians seem to have left this city that's mostly empty, but are all civilians out of harm's way?

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Well, how have Ukrainian forces been able to hold out against superior Russian numbers?

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NPR's Brian Mann, who's been on the front lines near Povrovsk, Ukraine. Thanks.

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The rebels who deposed Syria's government now face the challenge of replacing it.

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NPR's Adil Al-Shalchi is in Damascus. Hi there. Good morning. What is the rebels' vision for Syria?

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Okay, they're saying they're not going to do that stringent rule, but how do their public comments stack up with what they're doing so far?

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So they inherit now this country that is very isolated in the world, all kinds of international sanctions and everything else. Do you get the impression that the new rulers are wanting to engage with the world and that the world is ready to engage with them?

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We've got a couple seconds left, so I just want to ask you, you're walking around Damascus. Are things still relatively calm day by day?

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It's good if you can get back to worrying about traffic. NPR's Adil Al-Shalji, thanks so much. You're welcome, Steve. And that's Up First for this Friday, December 20th.

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I want you to know the names of some of our colleagues who bring you up first in this holiday season. Today's episode was edited by Kelsey Snell, Carrie Kahn, Ryland Barton, H.J. Mai, and Olivia Hampton. It was produced by Ziad Butch, Nia DeMoss, and Katie Klein. We get engineering support from the ever-supportive Stacey Abbott. And our technical director is Carly Strange.

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And our executive producer is Kelly Dickens. Join us tomorrow.

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The Republican-controlled House of Representatives passed a spending bill earlier this week that would keep the government open. It funds the government through the end of September with money mostly unchanged, except it raises defense spending and cuts money for the District of Columbia, among other things. It's written in a way that may give President Trump more leeway to make cuts of his own.

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We hear his case for a bill he hates. I'm Steve Inskeep with Leila Fadl, and this is Up First from NPR News. Past presidents kept some distance from the Justice Department to avoid the appearance of political interference. Today, President Trump delivers a speech there on what he says is law and order. What are his orders to federal agents and prosecutors?

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Republicans need the votes from Democrats to get the bill through the Senate, leaving Democrats with the choice to support this bill they hate or allow a government shutdown.

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Yeah, he's going to deliver a speech, which the White House bills as being about law and order. Trump's visit comes at a turbulent time for the department, where Trump appointees have pushed out career officials at the department who they deem insufficiently loyal to the president.

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You have a huge loss of institutional knowledge. It's just decimated the government. Stay with us. We'll give you the news you need to start your day.

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The judges say the mass firings were conducted in a way that appears to be illegal. All of the employees were on probationary status, meaning they were in their first year or two on the job for the most part. One ruling covers the departments of Veterans Affairs, Defense, Agriculture, Energy, Interior, and Treasury, a lot of federal departments.

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The other case was brought by Democratic State Attorneys General and covered even more agencies, but is just temporary.

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I've looked at data from about 10,000 terminated employees, and what's very clear is that you have everyone from the director or deputy director to the student intern. So you have a huge loss of institutional knowledge. It's just decimated the government.

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I'm Leila Falded. And I'm Steve Inskeep. Up first comes your way on Saturdays. Ayesha Roscoe and Scott Simon have the news, which you will find wherever you get your podcasts.

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The fall of Syria's longtime president prompted celebrations by many of its people. It's safe to say the same event led to dismay in the capital of Iran.

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NPR international affairs correspondent Jackie Northam covers Iran. Hey there, Jackie. Good morning, Steve. How did the Iranians use the old Syrian government?

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What were or are the regime's long-term goals exactly?

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Oh, which underlines how disastrous the last few months have been for Iran because Hezbollah has been decimated by Israel's military. This is just a moment when you would think Iran would want to be resupplying Hezbollah. I guess that's not going to happen.

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Okay, so might Iran change its strategy of seeking domination through the region?

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Also, who's flying drones over New Jersey? Could it be a Springsteen fan? Someone who's afraid of the drivers? And is it a coincidence that the radio broadcast of War of the Worlds was set there? We won't just drone on about the state where I used to live, but stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day.

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NPR's Jackie Northam, thanks for the insights.

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Some American colleges are preparing for President-elect Trump's second term.

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Kirk Carrapeza is covering this. He follows higher education from member station GBH in Boston. Kirk, good morning.

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Okay, so I guess we can imagine why they would make this suggestion, but let's try to get the facts out. What is driving this?

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Okay, so he said that, but there's an if at the beginning of that. Is it entirely clear what specifically the new president will do regarding international students?

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What do you hear when you reach out to administrators as well as students?

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Iranian money and troops propped up the old Syrian leaders, so how much does his government's collapse set back an adversary of Israel and the United States?

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Yeah, although, fair point, policy hasn't changed yet. We don't really know what's going to happen. Kirk, thanks so much. Thank you, Steve. Kirk Carrapeza covers higher education for GBH in Boston. What in the world is going on in the skies over New Jersey?

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New Jersey's own Bruce Springsteen once described North Jersey's sky with the line, the sun's just a red ball rising over them refinery towers. But now we need to add a few drones to the lyrics and to that picture because people have been reporting flying objects. Federal authorities say the drones are not a security threat, which still leaves the question of what they are.

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And that's Up First for this Friday, December 13th. I'm Steve Inskeep.

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Will the Fed step in to stabilize things with lower rates? I'm Steve Inskeep with Michelle Martin, and this is Up First from NPR News. A budget plan extending President Trump's tax cuts narrowly gained approval in the House.

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This week, the president made up a new tax rate that Americans pay for Chinese imports. He made the announcement by composing a social media post with a couple of cabinet secretaries in the room. That was the process. One day later, the White House said the rate was actually different than announced, marking the sixth time the president has changed the China tariff in a matter of weeks.

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Last night, China struck back by raising their tariffs on U.S. imports to 125 percent. So what does all this mean for financial markets and the broader economy?

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Here are some vocabulary words to help describe this week.

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Even some Republicans worried that spending cuts targeting Medicaid could hurt working class Trump voters. So what is the Republican strategy?

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Republicans narrowly gained approval of their budget blueprint, which makes room for renewing President Trump's tax cuts as well as his border security policies. This plan also includes trillions of dollars in federal borrowing to finance those tax cuts and other things. Fiscal conservatives resisted that part but got a promise from party leaders to deliver spending cuts later.

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Speaker Mike Johnson says the real work begins now.

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The high court mostly sided with a lower court judge, despite an emergency appeal from the Trump administration. The justices sent the case back for clarification to that judge on just what the court can tell the president to do.

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And I'm Steve Inskeep. Remember, Up First comes your way on Saturdays, too. Aisha Roscoe and Scott Simon have the news, and you can find it wherever you get your podcasts.

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Now they have a break. The Santa Ana winds have let up a little bit, slowing the spread and letting air crews dump water from overhead. So we can assess. At least 10 people have died. And thousands of structures have been destroyed in Pacific Palisades and other communities like the one we will hear about now. Altadena is a little inland in the foothills to the east of L.A.

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President-elect Trump will briefly turn away from his transition to power to attend, likely virtually, his criminal sentencing today.

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The court decided it would at least listen to arguments by owners of TikTok. Congress set a deadline to sell or shut down. We'll hear the company's bid today to block the law. Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day.

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NPR political reporter Ximena Bastillo has been covering this trial. Good morning. Good morning. Work out the background for us. What's at stake here?

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I did have a look at the court's finding on this. It's not an extended ruling, but they put a few words out. What did they say?

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Yeah, this is really, really interesting. They knew in advance that the president-elect wasn't going to be punished or wasn't going to even have to travel to Manhattan. And even so, there were four justices who were willing to side with Trump and delay the sentencing in whatever sense it would be inconvenient to the president-elect.

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But still, it goes forward and reminds people what this case was about. What was it that Trump was convicted of?

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And how has Trump challenged that case?

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This is what the Supreme Court said. If he has concerns about the case, pursue them in an ordinary appeal, they said. And, Piers, Amanda Bastio, thanks so much.

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Some other news now. Today, lawyers for TikTok will be arguing before the Supreme Court.

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NPR's Bobby Allen will be covering this story. Bobby, good morning. Good morning, Steve.

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OK, so now the timing is important here. The Supreme Court has a lot of power when they decide, oh, we should intervene before a deadline or let things play out and we will take our time and rule on things later. In this case, they said we're scheduling fast arguments for January 10th. and the ban is supposed to start on January 19th. So is it likely really to take effect?

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It's interesting to think about this not only as a constitutional question, it's about free speech, among other things, but also a question of which branch of government is has the power here. Congress passed this law, which the outgoing president signed. You have an incoming president who changed his mind about TikTok, used to be opposed to it. Now he says he favors it.

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A lot of his supporters use it. And he's about to take power. So what could he do after January 20th about TikTok?

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Okay. And of course, Congress would then face the question about whether they would want to assert their authority. But there's another group here. How are creators who use TikTok responding?

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Thanks, Steve. And that's Up First for this Friday, January 10th. I'm Steve Inskeep.

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So what is in and what is out of this snapshot?

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Yeah, and it's numbers that couldn't affect the employment numbers in a measurable way. So what would that radical downsizing look like?

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Oh, thanks for the reminder. The vast majority of people are working state and local government or whatever, or in the private sector, of course. So how is the private sector holding up?

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You're welcome. When he was campaigning for office, the president promised to make the United States the crypto capital of the planet. And he's taken major steps this week when it comes to digital assets.

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NPR White House correspondent Deepa Shivram has more on this. Good morning. Good morning. Would you just explain for me, I mean, I can understand why the U.S. needs a strategic petroleum reserve. If there's a shortage of petroleum, you'll let some out. Supply and demand keeps the price down. But why would Americans need a crypto reserve?

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Also, why did Israel change its terms for extending a ceasefire in Gaza? With U.S. help, Israelis are pressing Hamas to accept a different deal and withholding food and fuel. Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day.

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And of course, it's an industry in which he's invested. So this is just one move the president is making. There's this summit coming today. What's going on?

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I'm just thinking, though, when the government changes the rules, there are winners, there are losers. You may be picking winners and losers. And doesn't the president himself have a financial stake here?

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And Piers Deepa Shivaram, who so far as we know, has not yet released the Deepa coin, but we'll look forward to that.

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Thank you very much. Thank you. President Trump says his own threats forced a ceasefire in the war in Gaza.

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NPR international correspondent Aya Batraoui joins us now from Dubai to explain. Hi there. Hey, Steve. I'm just trying to think this through. There was a ceasefire that lasted six weeks. Hamas released some hostages in exchange for Israel freeing some Palestinians. But why haven't they agreed to the second phase yet?

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Future job reports will reflect federal job cuts and employers who paused as U.S. trade policy keeps changing. Where's the economy heading?

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So how, again, is this plan, this proposal from the Israelis and from the United States different from what was expected?

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Okay, so we're maybe at this moment not getting closer to a permanent end to the war, but people still talk about what that's supposed to look like. What are some of the visions on the table?

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I just finished reading it. There's a lot of compelling features to it. We need more discussion about it. But it's a good faith first step from the Egyptians.

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Oh, interesting. Aya, thanks so much.

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That's NPR correspondent Iaba Traui in Dubai. And that's Up First for this Friday, March 7th. I'm Steve Inskeep.

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Employers added 151,000 jobs in February. That's according to today's jobs report from the Labor Department. And 151,000 is a fairly healthy number, although it does not reflect the economic turmoil of the past several weeks. This is a snapshot of the economy, useful but ever so slightly out of date. NPR's Scott Horsley is here. Good morning, Scott. Good morning, Steve.

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