The Daily Show: Ears Edition
Jon Stewart on Musk's Black-Eyed Exit & Trump's Insane New Biden Conspiracy | Carole Cadwalladr
Tue, 03 Jun 2025
Jon Stewart tracks Elon Musk's White House crash, from the high of being Trump's "first buddy" to the low of his black-eyed DOGE send-off. Now that the 100-day honeymoon is over, Jon also checks in on Trump's other struggling cabinet members, like the FBI's burned-out deputy director, Dan Bongino. Carole Cadwalladr, the award-winning journalist behind the Substack newsletter “How to Survive the Broligarchy,” talks to Jon about how the U.S. government ignored the huge wake-up call that was the Cambridge Analytica-Facebook data breach scandal – a story Cadwalladr broke and which resulted in no legislative protections for citizens’ private data. She warns about the unregulated dangers that data-mining and AI pose to individual privacy and freedom, and what people and institutions can do to push back on big tech’s authoritarian agenda.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: What happened to Elon Musk's role in the government?
I'd like to know at least how that happened.
Is your eye okay? What happened to your eye? I know this was a bruise there.
No, I just wasn't around with Lil X and I said, go ahead, punch me in the face and he did.
Chapter 2: How did Jon Stewart react to Musk's departure?
So you're not going to tell us what happened? Do you need a safe place to stay? Look, I believe sometimes do happen when you're roughhousing with your kids, but I'm also sure the one sentence no parent has ever uttered to their child is, go ahead, punch me in the face.
But Elon spent $300 million of his own money to get Trump elected, irreparably damaged his personal brand and almost all of his business, and is clearly suffering some kind of issue. But don't worry. Trump made sure that Elon got something in return.
president trump heaping praise on the tech titan presenting him with a golden key and i gave a little special something we have here thank you a very special that i give to very special people i have given it to some but it goes to very special people and i thought i'd i'd give it to elon as a presentation from our country thank you thank you you couldn't just give him the king
You have to make sure that everybody knows you give them to a lot of people. It's just not that special. You know, I got a bunch of these. I give them to special people. Who's the guy who brings me my Diet Cokes? I give him one for every Diet Coke. Anyway, enjoy your useless key. There was no need for Trump and Elon to commemorate this epic fail. It's an embarrassing display of theater.
Look at these guys. Pretending like this is some kind of celebratory, victorious send-off for a job well done. Jesus, look, even Lincoln is looking down. You see him? Look at Lincoln. Look at Lincoln. Even Lincoln is looking down going...
This is the most tedious performance I've ever had to sit through. This is... Even Lincoln can't take it. Somebody booth me, I don't like this.
Too soon, is that? Lincoln, for God's sakes. With all the shit going on in the world, I was not expecting the audience to be like, poor Lincoln. Just wanted to see you play. Of course, Lincoln wasn't the only one seemingly disassociating. in the Oval Office. Of course, there might have been an explanation for that behavior as well.
The New York Times reports that Musk allegedly used drugs far more than previously known.
Look, whether Elon was using drugs on the job or not, I have no idea. I do know one thing about the television industry, though, especially the news industry, and that is whatever unusual images we have... of Elon's enthusiastic time in Washington, DC, those images will now be repurposed and given a slightly different meaning and context, almost comically so, inside edition, do your worst.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of the Cambridge Analytica scandal?
Look what Trump has reduced this man to. He has broken this poor man. Just in an interview, can't we just talk about spaceships? I was told we'd talk about... I was told we would both be wearing helmets and talking about... Just a simple boy with a set of Star Wars sheets and pillows and... I really would just like to talk about space. I mean, you can't blame him.
This whole project was cutting money from the government trying to find efficiencies and sneaking a Trojan horse in the back door and stealing all our data. But Trump is spending $200 billion more than the previous administration did in this amount of time and creating a deficit-exploding, big, beautiful bill that is the antithesis of everything Musk said he was trying to do.
And now he's left softly complaining about it to a guy whose normal news segment is explaining to your grandparents how to download a PDF.
You know, I was, like, disappointed to see the massive spending bill, frankly, which increases the budget deficit, doesn't decrease it, and undermines the work that the Doge team is doing. I think a bill can be big or it can be beautiful. But I don't know if it can be both. My personal opinion.
No, sir. We will not be body-shaming legislation.
I'm going to tell you something, and I speak for all the legislation out there, that in this country, a bill can be big and beautiful and... I promised myself I wasn't going to do this.
and brave.
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Chapter 4: How does data mining affect individual privacy?
Holy shit!
By the way, so this actually is my favorite part of the whole interview. So Elon actually expressed some dissatisfaction with what was happening with the Trump administration. It was a turn of events that stunned the reporter on CPS Sunday morning, who had no idea, apparently, that this was being recorded.
Right after our interview, CBS News posted a clip of it to promote this very report. It was that part where Musk criticizes Trump's spending bill. And his remarks became news. It went all the way up to the White House.
Yeah. That's what news does. He's saying that like, so am I in trouble now? I thought we were just killing time until we got another Patti LuPone apologizes update. I don't like any of this. But let this be a lesson to Elon and anybody in Trump's orbit.
Trump!
Trump!
Trump! Trump doesn't believe in anything, man. What, were you with him because of his commitment to rein in big tech?
They use big tech to censor you. They use the deep state to spy on you. We have to make sure that we are protecting the American people's privacy and data rights.
When I'm president, big tech will pay. iTunes will have to agree to your terms and conditions. When I'm president, traffic lights will have to click on boxes containing pictures of you! Capture that! So how's that libertarian paradise vision going for you now?
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Chapter 5: What are the dangers of unregulated AI?
Well, that last part's going to make for some good B-roll for an Inside Edition story one day. Anyway, Trump made that guy deputy director of the FBI, because of course. But look what his only three months on the job have done to him.
I gave up everything for this. I mean, Cash is there all day. Our offices are linked. He turns on the faucet. I hear it. He's there. He gets in at like 6 o'clock in the morning. He doesn't leave till 7 at night. You know, I'm in there at 7.30 in the morning. You know, he uses the gym. I work out in my apartment. But I stare at these four walls all day in D.C.
Yeah, that's called a job. You have a job. That's what they are. You go in at a specific time, 6.30, 7, around there, to a specific room, mostly four-walled. And you're there all f***ing day. It's work. It's a job. And yeah, there probably is a dude in there that you hear all f***ing day.
He turns the water on, you hear, hey, look at that, he's chewing another f***ing sandwich. I hate this job. It's annoying. Yeah, it sucks. How do you not know that? For God's sakes, you're on the right. Haven't you even read Dilbert? For f***'s sake. Work sucks.
And how are you just finding about this now? How is having a job now suddenly destroying everything?
But I stare at these four walls all day in D.C., you know, by myself, divorced from my wife. Not divorced, but I mean, separated, divorced. And it's hard. I mean, you know, we love each other and it's hard to be apart.
I mean, it's just as hard. I don't like the separated. I mean, divorce. I'm not divorced. I was divorced, but not separate. I'm separate together, but not, of course, alone. But I go, who knows? I mean, some people, they leave for a while. Who the f*** knows? Guys come over, they come banging. Who the f*** knows what's happening? I don't know what's happening. Why can't she come to work?
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Chapter 6: How does Trump manipulate the narrative around big tech?
Why can't I just bring, can I bring my wife to work? Would that be okay?
We all miss our wives. What the f***?
The only one who's gonna come out of there unscathed is Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt, because I don't think she got any principles in there left to die.
President Trump is truly the most transparent and accessible president in American history. We have truth on our side at this White House. I think everybody, the American public, believe it's absurd for anyone to insinuate that this president is profiting off of the presidency.
It's frankly ridiculous that anyone in this room would even suggest that President Trump is doing anything for his own benefit.
That's all he's doing.
By the way, I think the more she lies, the bigger her cross gets. Is that possible? It's like some sort of weird Pinocchio cross. The president can't be bought. I'm not even upset with this lady. Because just rolling with the punches is clearly the only strategy for happiness when you're working for Trump.
Trump's very open secret has always been he doesn't believe in or care about any policy issue at all. He wants attention, he wants his ego stroked, and he wants money. He wants wads and wads of money. Remember his 90 deals in 90 days? He made them, but only for his family. Those are the only deals he made. Meanwhile...
The world he said he was going to fix is burning, like so many nuclear-capable planes in Siberia. And don't bother trying to call him on it, because before you can, he's already moved on to pulling some new crazy thing out of his ass to distract us.
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Chapter 7: What conspiracy theories are surrounding Biden's presidency?
You know, it's every post they'd ever put on Facebook, every post they'd ever liked, even their private messages. But they combined this with masses and masses of commercially available data. And then what they did is they brought these together to create algorithms which they then used to target people.
It was weaponised against them to send them Facebook ads to sort of provoke them in a certain way. And that is, I think, in many ways now you can see...
is the game plan of what we are seeing now, which is that there's a question about how effective Cambridge Analytica's methodology was, but the dream of it was this sort of big data surveillance engine in which they would know everything about everybody and they would know how to provoke you, how to sort of touch every single person and how to manipulate us.
Was the change of that, because there is a sense, you think of that sort of in the capitalist sense or the consumerist sense, like if I'll be talking to my wife about a certain something and then the very next thing on Instagram is an advertisement for that very thing. And you think, oh, they've weaponized what we're interested in to get us to buy things.
But this is a very different scenario in that they've weaponized it to defang democratic processes.
Yeah, and more. I mean, I think what is happening now in America is absolutely they are building a techno-authoritarian surveillance state. We can see that happening in real time. This is huge amounts of data on every single person in America that can and will be used in opaque and unaccountable ways. and it is terrifying.
But on the plus side... On the plus side. So when you hear about that from Palantir, is that... Are you describing something generally, or are you describing exact... Like, Palantir is getting all of our data. I mean, that was what they announced.
Well, it's Doge is the sort of tip of the spear here. So this is Elon Musk's unvetted operatives going into every government department and they're going in to access the databases of those separate departments. And now what's happening is that this company, Palantir, owned by Peter Thiel, a very interesting and... Did you see the adjective I picked there?
I was like, which adjective shall I go for? We went for interesting. This company, owned by Peter Thiel, is now amassing these different pots of data. It's putting it into one massive database where it's merging them. It's a playing...
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Chapter 8: What insights does Carole Cadwalladr offer about the tech industry?
And not transparent in any way by removing the people.
Yeah, it's a black box. It's just everything is going to go into some black box. It's going to get mixed up and it's going to spit out answers.
So you've been looking at this for many years. You have faced a great deal of personal repercussion for doing this. You continue to push on it. Is there anything that you've seen? within this move that makes you feel like we have the ability to in any way slow the inevitability of it?
Yes.
Oh, Carol. Carol, I got to tell you, and I'm going to say this to the audience at home, I probably should have started there. before everybody was on the ledge. What do you see?
Because they're just, like all of these tech bros, they are selling absolute bullshit, okay? The whole AI. The whole AI scam is a scam and they're making out that it's inevitable, that we have to, you know, that they have to, we're having to chuck millions upon millions of dollars at building better AI because the AI is otherwise going to kill us and it's going to come anyway and it's inevitable.
It is not inevitable. It is based upon illegal behaviour. Take it, challenge these companies in the courts. Media organisations, stop doing crappy deals with these people. You They just did a really crappy deal with OpenAI. Or as I say, you know, they married its rapist. Their rapist.
This was the optimistic part of the show. This was the part of the show where you were going to bring us all back from the ledge and look what you've done.
They're all crying again. We have power. We can stand up to these companies. We have to stand up to these companies. We don't pre-obey. We don't make deals with open AI. We do try and stand up for our, you know, defend our legal rights. This is law, OK? And that's the one thing which the tech companies, these Silicon Valley platforms, you know, just can't tolerate.
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