Emotionally-stunted video game boys, who are also government contractors and/or quasi government officials, are fighting on Twitter, a POTUS who went all the way to SCOTUS to get immunity for presidents now would like the last president investigated, and America's premiere scientific research institution, the NIH, can't tell us about the bird flu—a widespread and potentially deadly virus that could mutate into a human pandemic. Meanwhile, the assault on immigration has stepped up, with raids now permitted at churches and schools. And DHS is targeting anyone who can be deported, regardless of whether or not they're a security threat. Adrian Carrasquillo and Sam Stein join Tim Miller. show notes https://x.com/arelisrhdz/status/1881397640849678362
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. Today we have a two-part episode that wades into the splash radius from Monday's Executive Order Bukanki covering DEI, NIH, hiring freezes, and immigration. And first up, the right man for that job, it's Managing Editor at the Bulwark. You may have seen our two-man comedy routine on YouTube.
And we're bringing it to the audio podcast. It's my newish work husband, Sam Stein. How you doing, Sam?
Oh, man. Wow. I didn't realize we had hit that point in our relationship.
We hit it yesterday when we were bickering. It was not a compliment to call you my husband. It means that there's a love and bicker relationship that we are building.
I feel touched. Good.
Not touched like Mike Johnson.
Not physically touched, emotionally touched. Yeah.
Well, we have a lot of pressure today because I'm here at 30 Rock in the Hotel California that I can never leave since I can't go home to snowy New Orleans until they figure out how to de-ice the runway. We have Bryant Gumbel and Jane Pauly sitting over my shoulder here. And so they will be keeping an eye out for us.
That's like us. They're like us.
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Chapter 2: How does the executive order affect DEI initiatives?
And then, you know, Bernie got elected and made her secretary of defense. Like the DEI conversation around her would be, you know, like there is, how could this person get this job? They're so unqualified. How could you put a Hawaiian woman in there just because she has the spirit of Aloha? Like it is crazy.
That the stupidest Americans could put together an organization full of mostly South African and like D-rate white men and be like, we've solved this. We've solved this.
We're in a post-racial society. It's even worse than that. How could it be worse than that? Well, because you said it was just government. But the actual executive order, if you read it, they told contractors, private companies, that you can't do DEI anymore. If you contract with the government and you have DEI in your pamphlets or on your website, you're in trouble.
So it's like the government is enforcing this vision on private companies, too.
This is the first actual job creation idea I've seen from the administration because Deloitte has so much DEI material on their website, they're going to have to hire in a full team of technical experts to come in to scrub everything. They are creating some new works.
Hold on, there's a good story there. Maybe it's replaced by AI, but there's got to be some engineer somewhere whose profile is like, all right, I got this new tool that I'm going to plug in. It's going to do a thorough scrub of our company's website. Any word diversity is off, we're going to replace it. What's the synonym?
Yeah, there's definitely a new cottage industry of people who are consulting people about how to just not look like you're celebrating diversity.
It was also a no pride flag initiative. Yeah, only one flag.
Only one flag.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Trump's comments on January 6th?
Chapter 4: How does the NIH's communication freeze impact research?
Chapter 5: What are the consequences of Trump's approach to immigration?
Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. Today we have a two-part episode that wades into the splash radius from Monday's Executive Order Bukanki covering DEI, NIH, hiring freezes, and immigration. And first up, the right man for that job, it's Managing Editor at the Bulwark. You may have seen our two-man comedy routine on YouTube.
And we're bringing it to the audio podcast. It's my newish work husband, Sam Stein. How you doing, Sam?
Oh, man. Wow. I didn't realize we had hit that point in our relationship.
We hit it yesterday when we were bickering. It was not a compliment to call you my husband. It means that there's a love and bicker relationship that we are building.
I feel touched. Good.
Not touched like Mike Johnson.
Not physically touched, emotionally touched. Yeah.
Well, we have a lot of pressure today because I'm here at 30 Rock in the Hotel California that I can never leave since I can't go home to snowy New Orleans until they figure out how to de-ice the runway. We have Bryant Gumbel and Jane Pauly sitting over my shoulder here. And so they will be keeping an eye out for us.
That's like us. They're like us.
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Chapter 6: What does the future hold for scientific research in the U.S.?
You got that from him. He's like, oh, it's going to be all right.
It's just like all of the challenging things. Like what about the mass deportation? What about this? Like, well, you know, on that thing. And it's like on the other stuff. The tax cuts are going to happen. So anyway, I was intrigued that that delusion still persists. All right. I have to get you on the final topic, which is Sam Altman versus Elon Musk. There was an announcement.
Trump put out an announcement. Sam Altman and Elon Musk. Sam Altman runs OpenAI. People don't know. There's a long personal rivalry, I don't know, probably related to some microdosing party they were at in Silicon Valley at some point. I actually don't know the backstory on why Sam and Elon don't like each other. But Sam said that OpenAI was going to be contributing $500 million to
To, you know, investing in the country for some AI project. Elon, like, replies to the announcement with, like, bullshit. Shocking. It's like, bullshit. Not going to happen. And so, like, okay, so he's undermining Trump's own rollout on this.
I've never seen anything like that happen. Ever. It was incredible. A senior official at the government, and he's a government official at this point, being like, that's what the president made us today is just bullshit.
What the fuck? It's insane. We'll see how long that lasts with Elon and Trump. But I was actually more interested by Altman's response. Altman's going to just skewer it. On X by all of the MAGA people. Yeah, he's getting killed. Going back to all his old never-Trumper tweets. He was a J.D. Vance, Tim Miller type, you know, back in 2016. You know, I'm the only one still standing.
So Sam sends this tweet that I have to read to you. Watching at POTUS Trump more carefully recently has really changed my perspective on him. I wish I had done more of my own thinking. I definitely fell in the NPC trap. I'm not going to agree with him on everything, but I think he'll be incredible for the country. This is the man running the largest AI operation.
This is the person we're entrusting our AI future to. Somebody who's either so stupid or so gullible or so shameless that he was like, I just had to watch Donald Trump a little more closely before I – He was criticizing him through 2022. It's like, what has he seen in the last year?
And then he's using this online... If you don't know, an NPC is like a mega Reddit poster thing where they make fun of people who just go along with the conventional wisdom on everything. And they say that you're like a non-player character in a video game. Who talks like this? Sam Altman is tweeting like he is a median intelligent... never-Trump-returned-mega-internet personality.
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