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Trump says the U.S. will 'own' Gaza — what that could mean for the Middle East

Wed, 12 Feb 2025

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The Gaza Strip – ground zero of Israel's war with Hamas – is only about twice the size of Washington, DC. It has about 25 miles of coastline along the Mediterranean Sea, with a population of about 2 million people. Last week, President Trump proposed relocating those people to other countries in the region, like Egypt and Jordan.Trump has said the Palestinians would not be allowed to return: UN officials and others say Trump's plan would amount to ethnic cleansing. Despite domestic and international concerns that the U.S. is empire building, Trump continues to double down on his plans for the U.S. to "own" Gaza.Trump says the U.S. is going to take over Gaza, though he offers few specifics. What could the proposal mean for Palestinians and the broader Middle East? For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.orgEmail us at [email protected] more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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What is Trump's proposal regarding Gaza?

0.369 - 20.249 Ari Shapiro

The Gaza Strip, ground zero of Israel's war with Hamas, is only about twice the size of Washington, D.C. It has about 25 miles of coastline along the Mediterranean Sea, with a population of about 2 million people. And last week... The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip, and we will do a job with it, too.

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20.669 - 27.094 Ari Shapiro

President Trump proposed relocating those people to other countries in the region, like Egypt and Jordan.

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27.414 - 39.564 Donald Trump

We'll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site, level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings, level it out.

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39.944 - 63.582 Ari Shapiro

Trump has said the Palestinians would not be allowed to return. UN officials and others say Trump's plan would amount to ethnic cleansing. And despite domestic and international concerns that the U.S. is empire building, Trump continues to double down on his plans for the U.S. to own Gaza. He brought it up in the Oval Office on Tuesday while sitting next to the King of Jordan.

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64.103 - 66.825 Ari Shapiro

King Abdullah was asked directly what he thought of Trump's plan.

67.659 - 75.746 Unidentified Journalist

Just to follow up with one on that for King Abdullah, can you clarify again, sir, how do you feel about the U.S. taking Gaza, as the president said?

76.466 - 87.015 King Abdullah

Well, again, this is something that we as Arabs will be coming to the United States with something that we're going to talk about later to discuss all these options.

88.752 - 126.159 Ari Shapiro

Consider this. Trump says the U.S. is going to take over Gaza, though he offers few specifics. What could the proposal mean for Palestinians and the broader Middle East? From NPR, I'm Ari Shapiro. It's Consider This from NPR. President Trump continues to insist that the U.S. will take over Gaza, that its residents will be moved to what Trump calls a beautiful location with new houses.

126.8 - 133.983 Ari Shapiro

Many people have reacted with horror, including Democratic Maryland Senator Chris Van Hollen last week on MSNBC.

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