
Mark Carney, a former banker, won Canada’s national election on Monday. Carney ran on an anti-Trump platform, and he's promised to try to decouple his country’s economy from its biggest trading partner and, lately, its biggest threat. WSJ’s Vipal Monga explains how Trump’s trade war and threats to annex Canada have upended the election. Annie Minoff hosts. Further Listening: - Why Justin Trudeau Stepped Down - Guns and Death Threats in Canada's Baby-Eel Fisheries Sign up for WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is hosting the podcast and what is the context?
Hey, it's Jess. Annie Minoff, one of our senior producers, is going to be stepping in to do some hosting this summer while Ryan is out on leave. Enjoy.
I have a question. Who's ready?
Chapter 2: Who is Mark Carney and what was his message in the election?
Who's ready? Last night, Mark Carney celebrated his victory in Canada's election at a hockey arena in Ottawa.
Who's ready to stand up for Canada with me?
Carney, who had already been leading the Liberal Party, will continue to serve as prime minister. But a surprising portion of his acceptance speech wasn't focused on Canada.
America wants our land, our resources, our water, our country.
And what was Carney's speech like?
It was measured.
Our colleague Vipal Manga was there.
And a lot of it was focused at the U.S. In some ways, firing warning shots at Trump, letting him know that Canada realizes that his threats to annex Canada, his tariff war, are a betrayal.
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Chapter 3: How has the U.S.-Canada relationship changed under Trump?
We are over the shock of the American betrayal, but we should never forget the lessons.
What could this moment and Carney's election mean for U.S.-Canada relations?
I think Carney represents sort of a turning of the page for Canada-U.S. relations longer term. What this means is breaking, in many ways, of one of the strongest global partnerships in the world.
Chapter 4: What are the economic ties between Canada and the U.S.?
Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Annie Minoff. It's Tuesday, April 29th. Coming up on the show, how Canada's Prime Minister won by standing up to President Trump. Historically, the relationship between Canada and the U.S. has been pretty cozy.
The countries are really wedded together. You know, there's many families that have relatives on both sides of the border. Canadians love to travel to the U.S. and vice versa. I think Canada's the only country that has teams in the National Hockey League, NBA, and Major League Baseball.
The two countries' economic ties also run deep. Eighty percent of Canada's exports go to the U.S.,
Canada is the largest foreign exporter of oil and gas and hydropower to the United States. It sends a lot of cars to the US. A lot of the Detroit manufacturers build cars here, about a million cars a year, and auto parts to the US as well. Canada sends a lot of lumber, a lot of natural resources broadly.
Chapter 5: What trade conflicts and threats have affected Canada recently?
The two countries share a supply chain, so it's really hard to overstate just how close the countries are and to what extent the border between the two countries, at least from a business standpoint, is a bit of a fiction.
That's how it used to be. But recently, the US-Canada relationship has taken a big hit. Soon after coming into office, President Trump started imposing tariffs on America's trading partners, including Canada.
He's levied 25% tariffs on steel and aluminum, which really impacts major sectors of Canada's manufacturing economy. He's leveled tariffs on automobiles and auto parts and continues to threaten tariffs and reduce access for Canadians to the U.S. market. That threatens to send Canada into a deep recession. The Bank of Canada has warned that a trade war with the U.S.
could reduce Canadian standards of living. It's that serious.
But it wasn't just economic. Trump also threatened Canada in a way that was much more existential.
The real shock to Canada's psyche was this idea that Trump floated publicly that Canada should become the 51st state.
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Chapter 6: How have Canadians reacted to Trump's policies and threats?
What I'd like to see Canada become our 51st state. We give them protection, military protection.
That was deeply offensive to many Canadians and frankly very frightening. And I think the sort of stark reality of that, the geopolitical reality of that was a real shock to the system.
And so how have Canadians been feeling about their southern neighbor, the U.S.?
Well, they're quite angry. I mean, you know, there's this whole idea of elbows up that, you know, Canada is going to fight back against the U.S. And I do think the country has become unified in a real fundamental way. Canada is a huge country with very disparate regions, and there's a lot of internal fighting.
And in many ways, there had been schisms forming in Canadian society that, for now at least, Trump, the common enemy, has papered over.
Some Canadians have started wearing blue Canada is not for sale hats. Others are boycotting American whiskey. And instead of selling Americanos, some coffee shops are selling Canadianos. That was the backdrop to Canada's election. And as a candidate, Mark Carney was able to tap into Canadians' anger.
What resonated with Canadians emotionally was this sense of we're not going to back down, we're really strong, but we're tough and we're going to definitely hit back.
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Chapter 7: What is Mark Carney's background before becoming Canada's leader?
We are facing the most significant crisis of our lifetimes because of President Trump's unjustified trade actions and his threats to our sovereignty.
He also tapped into this idea, I don't think he sugar-coated it, and Canadians appreciated that, that standing up to the U.S. and changing this relationship is going to be very painful for Canadians. But he also reminded Canadians that, you know, the country would stick together and help each other, and I think Canadians really like that.
And so let's talk a bit about Carney. What's his background?
He was born to two school teachers in Fort Smith, Northwest Territories, which is in the subarctic. I mean, it's not even considered far north, but it's far. And he grew up wanting to play hockey, but he ended up going to Harvard and Oxford to study economics.
From there, he became a globetrotting investment banker for Goldman Sachs and worked there for 13 years and then decided, you know, I'm going to go into public service.
Carney would go on to run Canada's central bank. This was at a crucial moment during the 2008 global financial crisis.
And then by 2012, he had become such a rock star in central banking, if you can imagine that.
Imagine such a thing.
That he was recruited by the UK government to become the Bank of England's governor.
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