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Maryland Governor Wes Moore Calls Out Trump & Elon in Exclusive Interview

Sat, 08 Mar 2025

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas interviews Maryland Governor Wes Moore who doesn’t mince words in calling out Trump and musk. Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is Maryland Governor Wes Moore's perspective on Trump's economic policies?

0.109 - 23.676 Ben Meiselas

I'm joined by Maryland Governor Wes Moore. Governor Donald Trump's creating a ton of uncertainty, would be putting it nicely. Perhaps the word is calamity with respect to the American economy while he and his regime try to gaslight us that this is normal, that we're just detoxing is the word that they're using. Are we just detoxing? What are you seeing, Governor?

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24.236 - 43.59 Governor Wes Moore

No, this isn't detox. This is destruction. And it's doing it in a way that's playing with people's lives and playing with their livelihoods and playing with their legacies. And what's really interesting is that when you look at what's happening to specifically the people who have raised their hands to serve others,

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44.25 - 65.996 Governor Wes Moore

Specifically, the people who are our public servants, the ones who are making sure that seniors are getting their health care, the ones who are making sure that veterans are having a proper final burial, the ones who are making sure that our streets are safe, that these are the ones that are being told that somehow their work is unnecessary or that or non-essential.

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66.596 - 86.114 Governor Wes Moore

And it's especially deeply offensive when we are seeing this attack on people who have who have raised their hands to serve and taken an oath and an attack by people who have never been willing to take that oath themselves. And so this is this is not a detox. This is actually a fundamental devolving of basic American values.

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86.564 - 117.216 Ben Meiselas

There's a trend here, right? Beating down on marginalized communities, beating down on people who serve, beating down on our allies, but trying to suck up to authoritarian regimes and strong men who really aren't all that strong. I mean, to me, if these past 60 days feels like in eternity, have shown anything. I mean, to me, it's actually shown complete and utter weakness, incompetence, yes.

117.716 - 129.368 Ben Meiselas

But also, I just see a weak and pathetic man, whatever we're going to call him, from the White House just oozing weakness. What do you make of it all?

130.44 - 152.407 Governor Wes Moore

I think it's showing what oftentimes bullies are going to show, that bullies are oftentimes people who are actually the weakest. They're just the most insecure. You know, you're going to have a showdown with a president who was literally attacked and has been spending the past years fighting and defending his people.

153.147 - 173.439 Governor Wes Moore

in a in a in a violent and brave way despite watching an invasion of his country and that's who you choose to beat up on when you bring all the governors together you're going after the governor of maine uh about what about what she's doing in her state it's this type of it's this bullying behavior that i think is um is is not just not just unnecessary on call for

174.039 - 182.365 Governor Wes Moore

it leads to this measure of performative politics that, frankly, I think people are just exhausted by. Because people just simply want results in their own lives.

Chapter 2: How does Governor Wes Moore describe the impact of Trump's administration on public servants?

461.327 - 472.673 Governor Wes Moore

and we led with humanity, and we made sure that, yes, we were cutting tens of millions of dollars, which we have done already in the state of Maryland, but we weren't doing it in a way that was also compromising our values.

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473.554 - 488.341 Governor Wes Moore

That's the difference of what Doge is, is that not only has there been a deep compromising of values, in many ways, many of the things that Doge is doing are illegal or unconstitutional. and not being done in coordination with the cabinet secretaries.

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488.621 - 505.284 Governor Wes Moore

And so I actually understand why cabinet secretaries are pretty mad when they're being so minimized and not being allowed to do anything or any of their jobs, because now it seems like Doge is the ones in charge of every single one of these agencies. There's a way to do efficiency right.

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505.384 - 515.466 Governor Wes Moore

And if you want to look at how to do efficiency right, look at Maryland, look at these other states, look at these governors who are already doing this work, except we're doing it with a baseline of humanity and value.

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516.106 - 539.996 Ben Meiselas

Let's talk about the humanity, values, and other priorities in your budget. Let's talk about what you're doing in the state, one, to kind of, as much as you can, Trump-proof Maryland, but two, contrast your budget, your priorities to what you're seeing now with this kind of chaos and mess at the federal government. I mean, let's show what you're doing.

542.128 - 560.644 Governor Wes Moore

You know, I look at what we're doing and where we are also talking about tax cuts. In fact, in our proposed budget, we are giving a tax cut to the vast majority of Marylanders, where two-thirds of Marylanders are about to get a tax cut, where 82% of Marylanders are either going to get a tax cut or see no changes in their taxes at all.

560.984 - 576.273 Governor Wes Moore

The difference is our tax cuts are targeted towards the middle class. Our tax cut is making sure that middle class families and working families are getting a little extra in their pocket and a little extra pressure valve relief. But we're not going to build an economy that's on their backs.

576.753 - 591.52 Governor Wes Moore

If you look at what's happening when it comes to business efficiency and business effectiveness, we also agree that we need to make our jurisdictions more competitive and easier for business. That's why we're proposing things like a corporate tax cut. But, you know, we're also proposing is predictability.

592.608 - 608.449 Governor Wes Moore

We're proposing performs when it comes to regulatory forms, permitting reforms, procurement reforms, because what business owners want more than anything else is basic predictability. And what are we watching on a federal level? We're watching tariff announcements being made and then pulled back.

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