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Chapter 1: What are the implications of Trump's tariffs on Kentucky?
I'm joined by Governor Andy Beshear of the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Governor, welcome. Oh, thanks for having me. Very excited to be here. Let's start with the news of the day. Donald Trump announcing yesterday he's calling April 2nd the day after April Fool's Liberation Day, where he says he's imposing more tariffs on the country. And he says that's going to make everybody super rich.
Let me show this to you and then let me get your reaction from the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Let's play it.
April 2nd is Liberation Day for our country because we're going to finally be taking in money. We're already doing it, a lot of money. As you know, we put down some early tariffs on people and countries that were not treating us well.
Governor, I know the Commonwealth of Kentucky has been hit pretty hard by these tariffs. What do you make of that statement? And is that how the people in the Commonwealth are feeling, liberation?
Well, first, April 2nd is actually the day after my wife and my anniversary because we got married on April Fool's Day. I'm told that means I can forget it once for a couple of hours before I fix it. But in seriousness, this is the Trump tax day or the super inflation day. Tariffs, especially on Canada, lead to increases in the price of gas. How much they lead to that increase is the Trump tax.
You're paying it solely because of the president. Tariffs on places like Mexico increase the price of groceries, which are already too high. The extra amount you pay is the Trump tax. The tariff on lumber, that's out there. It's gonna increase the price of new homes that are already so tough for that couple trying to buy their first home. That increase in price is the Trump tax.
And I don't say that because I'm a Democratic governor and he's a Republican president. I say it because it's solely his fault. Every economist is saying, don't do it. It's slowing down our economy. It could lead us into a recession. You inherited an economy that was growing more than most in the world and you're tanking it. you're wrecking it.
And people in my state are going to pay more than most because our number one export target is Canada. And so whether it's Kentucky bourbon or our aerospace exports, we get hit and we get hit hard.
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Chapter 2: How are Medicaid cuts affecting rural communities in Kentucky?
Also, I think it's one in three people who live in Kentucky are on Medicaid, and that's being hit pretty hard as well. What's going on there with the drastic cuts that Doge and Trump and Musk are doing to Medicaid and just shutting down essential government services?
Oh, Medicaid cuts would be devastating for Kentucky, but really all of rural America. So Medicaid covers the people that we love the most, our parents and our kids. Half of Kentucky's kids are covered by Medicaid. 70% of our long-term care costs for our seniors are covered by Medicaid. So what happens when you cut Medicaid? Kids see the doctor less.
Our parents and grandparents aren't with us as long, don't get the same level of care. But Medicaid and expanded Medicaid are critical to rural healthcare. If they go through with these cuts, virtually every rural hospital will close. That's typically the second largest employer behind the public school in so many of these rural communities.
And so think about it from the job loss, but think about it from this way. It's not just those on Medicaid. It's everybody else who is going to see the doctor in their community when their rural hospital closes has to drive two hours to a bigger city to see the same doctor who had to move because they lost their job. This will be... devastating, devastating across the country.
And it'll make a country that needs to get more healthy, less healthy.
It's not a secret that the Commonwealth of Kentucky is generally considered to be a red state. You are a Democratic governor in what would otherwise be called a ruby red state. You won your election back in 2023. You got about 53 percent of the vote. In 2024, Trump won the state over Kamala Harris by like 30 points.
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Chapter 3: How did Governor Andy Beshear win as a Democrat in a red state?
So you won the state and then he beat Kamala by 30 points in the same state where you're a Democratic. What's the what do you think the secret is here? Because there seems to be a road map there. You're doing something right to be able to win in Kentucky. So what do you do it? That's kind.
I think it's three things. It's focus on the core concerns that Americans wake up with in the morning. It's talking to people like they're real people, not using all the sanitized language that's been out there. And third is sharing your why. So if you start with focusing on people's everyday worries, when most people wake up in the morning, they're not thinking about politics.
They're thinking about their job and whether they make enough to support their family. They're thinking about their next doctor's appointment for themselves or their parents or their kids. They're thinking about the roads and bridges they drive every day. They're thinking about the public school they drop their kids off at, and they're thinking about how safe they feel in their community.
Now, if you don't feel secure in all of those areas, it's really hard to reach another issue or cause no matter how much you care about it because you're worried about your family. So for me, listen, I always stand up for my beliefs. I've vetoed a lot of nasty discriminatory bills. but I'm always out there trying to create that next job, trying to make healthcare more accessible.
When we built a road in Eastern Kentucky, it cut down the commute for some families by 20 minutes both ways. People underestimate the impact on somebody's lives, 40 more minutes with your family. And so it's making sure that 80% of what I or what the Democratic Party should be talking about should be those core concerns. but how you talk about them is important too.
I mean, we've gotten to a point where we use language that doesn't mean anything. We use the term substance use disorder instead of addiction. Well, the folks I know that have gone through addiction, they call it addiction or food insecurity. When people are going hungry, it makes us sound like professors as opposed to talking to people as people.
And then the words lose their power and their meaning. But the last piece may be the most important. And that's I think we as leaders need to explain our authentic why, why we make decisions, why we do these jobs with everything you got to put up with, why we put our families through it. And for me, it's my faith.
And so, for instance, when I vetoed the nastiest anti LGBTQ plus bill during my election year, in Kentucky. You know, I explained it, why I did it. And that's that my faith teaches me that all children are children of God. And I wanted those children who are being hated on by their General Assembly to know their governor cares for them and loves them.
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Chapter 4: Why does Governor Beshear emphasize authentic communication?
And my faith tells me that that's my job to do, to stand up for them. And so I'll never forget, I think the next day, a guy walks up to me and I thought, oh, you know, what's coming now? And he said, Andy, I'm I don't know if I agree with you, but I know you are doing what you think is right.
And so if we can explain our why, we can create hopefully the grace and the space to have some disagreements that are out there. But people still understand what you're doing each and every day and how you're going to make their life better.
to show everybody a video that you posted in the past 24 hours where you say discrimination holds our Commonwealth and our country back, put in my Kentucky accent. It just ain't right. Let me show you this video and then I got a question. Let me play it right now.
Kentucky and the rest of the United States cannot possibly reach its full potential unless our people feel supported to be themselves. Discrimination against our LGBTQ plus community is unacceptable. It holds us back. And in my Kentucky accent, it ain't right.
Now, if a Democratic governor in Kentucky. can do that. What are Democrats afraid about? And the rest of the, it drives me crazy. You're in Kentucky and you're saying, look, I'm not going to let people be bullied. I'm not, I'm not okay. My faith makes me not okay with marginalized people just getting punched down.
Yet it seems that Democrats are living in right wing frameworks and echo chambers and feeling, you know what, if I want to win an election, I gotta, I guess I gotta kind of be like that. I guess I gotta kind of grow out and punch down and bully. And you're saying, I'm in Kentucky. And you know what? The people in Kentucky like people who stand up for what they believe in and fight for them, right?
Well, bullying is always wrong and standing up for people is always right. Hate's always wrong and love's always right. Judging people is always wrong and accepting them is always right. But I think what many Democrats are doing is misreading the last election. They're seeing that last ad that was played and thinking that the last movable voters voted on that anti-trans issue.
I don't think that they did. I think what Donald Trump convinced them is that his opponent was distracted by other issues while he was focused on prices and the economy. And so this isn't an either or. As a Democrat, stand up for what you believe in. Stand up for protecting people. But at the same time, the next day,
be out there opening that new factory, be in your community cutting the ribbon on the new clinic where people are gonna be able to see a doctor that are right there. Be out there making sure that public safety is improving for everybody.
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