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Zelenskyy Calls Trump’s Bluff and Checkmates Him

Thu, 15 May 2025

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on how President Zelenskyy of Ukraine just called Trump’s bluff in public and agrees to meet with Trump and Putin in Turkey. StopBox: Get firearm security redesigned and save with BOGO the StopBox Pro AND 10% OFF @StopBoxUSA with code: MEIDAS10 at https://stopboxusa.com/meidas10 Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: How did Zelenskyy outmaneuver Trump and Putin?

0.109 - 24.168 Ben Meiselas

President Zelensky has brilliantly outmaneuvered both Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. Let me explain to you what went down. So on the evening of May 11th, Putin gave this national address to Russia, where he said that he was willing to have ceasefire negotiations with Zelensky in Turkey. Of course, Putin was not serious about having these ceasefire negotiations.

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24.528 - 61.899 Ben Meiselas

He just wanted to manipulate Donald Trump into believing he wanted ceasefire negotiations. And he also wanted to try to delay sanctions from the European Union that were about to be imposed. How do we know that Putin is not serious about having ceasefire negotiations other than the most obvious that he just doesn't? and other weapons on a daily basis.

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62.239 - 83.889 Ben Meiselas

So as I said, Putin wanted to manipulate Donald Trump into believing that Putin wanted to have these negotiations so Donald Trump can make social media posts attacking Ukraine, and he wanted to delay a sanctions package from Europe. and Putin was able to achieve both of those things. But let me then explain to you how Zelenskyy then counterattacked.

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84.389 - 104.173 Ben Meiselas

So what Zelenskyy did, and this is where it's brilliant, is he said, I'm willing, he said it publicly, he gave a speech, I wanna show you some of that speech. Zelenskyy says, I will meet with you in any city in Turkey. And by the way, why doesn't Donald Trump join us? Donald Trump, you're in the Middle East anyway, you're close enough, come to Turkey.

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104.753 - 131.554 Ben Meiselas

I will be there on Thursday, May 15th, which is the date that Putin suggested. And let's all have peace negotiations because we, Ukraine, are open to an unconditional ceasefire. And Putin isn't. I'm going to call Putin's bluff publicly. And it was a brilliant execution of calling Putin's bluff and showing what's up. Because after Zelensky said, I'm willing to meet with Putin directly.

131.934 - 157.578 Ben Meiselas

face to face, person to person. Donald Trump would say, man to man, okay, let's have this meeting. What did Putin do? Putin said, oh, this is theater. This is just Ukrainian propaganda. Why would we ever hold that meeting? I don't know, Putin, because you said you wanted to hold that meeting. And this is the kind of sociopathic mindset of a Putin individual. and a Donald Trump, right?

157.619 - 177.785 Ben Meiselas

What they'll say is, hey, we're willing to have the meeting. And Zelensky's like, bet, okay, let's have the meeting. And then Putin's like, you want to have this meeting? What are you even talking about? That's propaganda. What do you mean? You were the one who offered the meeting in the first place. Let's methodically go through this piece by piece with the receipts right here, right?

177.845 - 198.87 Ben Meiselas

So Putin gives that speech. We called it out right away here on the Midas Touch Network saying Putin ain't going to do that. As soon as Putin gave that speech, remember the report I did? I said, watch, Donald Trump's going to make a post about this very, very soon. What did Donald Trump do? He made a post about it. Here's what Donald Trump posted. He wrote on May 11th, 2025.

201.67 - 221.766 Ben Meiselas

President Putin of Russia doesn't want to have a ceasefire agreement with Ukraine, but rather wants to meet on Thursday in Turkey to negotiate a possible end to this bloodbath. Ukraine should agree to this immediately. At least they will be able to determine whether or not a deal is possible. And if it is not, European leaders in the U.S. will know immediately.

Chapter 2: What was Putin's strategy with the ceasefire negotiations?

532.992 - 536.514 Ben Meiselas

Here's one more clip from Zelensky right here that I want to show you. Let's play it.

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536.954 - 567.591 Volodymyr Zelenskyy

Also signals from China and other states that it would be fair to move toward a complete ceasefire. And that during these dates, from the 8th to the 10th, there should be safety in the region where many leaders, including China, will be present. I would like everyone. to perceive Ukraine's position as it is. It is not only clear and truthful.

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568.432 - 597.785 Volodymyr Zelenskyy

If there were 10 drone strikes tonight, 10, not 100, not 200, there were 10 drone strikes. So I want to say there were 10. This is a decrease. This does not mean there is a ceasefire, but it might mean something. I don't know what. It's hard for me to say. And so maybe the signals from our leaders, the Europeans, maybe the signals from the United States of America.

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597.985 - 626.157 Ben Meiselas

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726.709 - 746.595 Ben Meiselas

As Jane Keeve explains, UK, US, EU, and Germany all postponed sanctions plans because Putin offered to meet in Istanbul. Now the cowardly little piglet says he's going to a restaurant instead, that he's too busy and that he's just going to maybe go somewhere else on Thursday, May 15th. Here, play this clip.

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