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The Five 05-19-2025

Mon, 19 May 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis?

4.741 - 32.836 Harold Ford Jr.

Hello, everyone. I'm Sandra Smith, along with Katie Pavlich, Harold Ford Jr., Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It is five o'clock in New York City and this is. All right. Well, questions are mounting over former President Joe Biden's shocking stage four prostate cancer diagnosis, which has aggressively spread to his bones. Well, we wish the former president well.

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32.916 - 38.143 Harold Ford Jr.

A key ally of the Obama administration is asking why it wasn't caught sooner.

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39.485 - 55.18 Greg Gutfeld

He did not develop it in the last 100, 200 days. He had it while he was president. He probably had it at the start of his presidency in 2021. Yes, I don't think there's any disagreement about that.

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55.953 - 72.613 Harold Ford Jr.

So the shocking cancer diagnosis follows a brutal week for President, former President Biden, as a new book and the release of the long awaited Her tapes exposed more troubling. The media are already suggesting the cancer diagnosis might earn the former president a little breathing room from all the scrutiny.

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74.054 - 85.742 Harold Ford Jr.

Those conversations are going to. But they should be more muted and set aside for now as he's struggling through this.

85.922 - 91.664 Greg Gutfeld

It seems to me, Jessica, this debate doesn't end at all, but it is briefly put on pause as a result of today's news.

92.424 - 98.227 Harold Ford Jr.

But the her audio release continues to reverberate as Democrats and the media try to learn lessons from the cover up.

99.807 - 114.968 Jesse Waters

And that is a crime against this republic. And I think the Democrats are going to pay for a long time for being a part of what is now being revealed to be a massive cover-up. We need to apologize to the American people that we were a part of something that wasn't on the up-and-up.

115.248 - 126.357 Katie Pavlich

But ultimately, in retrospect, you can't defend what the Democratic Party did because we are stuck with a madman, with a corrupt president in the Oval Office. And we should have given ourselves a better chance to win.

Chapter 2: How are media and political figures reacting to Biden's health?

692.559 - 708.544 Katie Pavlich

And now you're seeing that happening again with David Axelrod saying, well, we can't really talk about it anymore. And the implication there is that if you dare to ask questions about the betrayal from the Biden White House, from the Democrats as a whole, then you're just not an empathetic person.

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708.584 - 728.099 Katie Pavlich

You don't understand when people get diagnosed with cancer, when it's really a bigger issue of what's been going on for the last couple of years. I don't know how they get out of this, because in order to regain the trust that they've lost, you have to be very transparent, overwhelmingly. And yet they're still doubling down on on covering up and not talking about it.

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728.18 - 744.153 Katie Pavlich

So politically for them, it's very difficult for them to go out and say, you can trust us and believe us when we're talking about things that we'll do for you. And they can't even come to terms with the fact that. This was obvious for years. The White House doctor not coming out to give press conferences, not answering any questions.

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744.193 - 761.722 Katie Pavlich

I went back through all of the letters that the White House doctor put out. Not a single mention of this. And also, it's kind of a betrayal to the president. I mean, how did you not, if this is what they weren't doing, give someone of that age, the president of the United States? That kind of physical test. I mean, how could you not give the test?

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761.842 - 775.272 Harold Ford Jr.

Those questions will be asked for a long time. Many people watching right now go out and get those tests on a regular basis. Katie, thank you for that. Up next, Hillary Clinton and Tim Walz taking aim at President Trump with some really wild accusations.

776.253 - 778.154 Christy Noem

I got my head out this sunroof.

785.683 - 787.003 Harold Ford Jr.

I'm Christy Noem, the United States.

787.384 - 797.567 Ben Domenech

I'm Ben Domenech, Fox News contributor, editor-at-large of The Spectator, and editor of the Transom.com daily newsletter. I'm inviting you to join in-depth conversations every week on the Ben Domenech Podcast.

797.927 - 800.648 Christy Noem

Listen and follow now at foxnewspodcast.com.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of the medical coverage surrounding Biden?

1567.877 - 1586.045 Sandra Smith

The vast majority of people are going to be helped by the tax cuts are the wealthiest because there's one other number. Over the last 12 years, the S&P has gone up almost 400 percent. And the only way to benefit from the stock market is if you have money invested in the stock market and you have to have a lot for that to benefit you. So I say to Democrats, you have to cut spending.

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1586.425 - 1600.689 Sandra Smith

I say to Republicans, stop kidding Americans that you're not raising that you're not cutting taxes for the richest Americans. Why not raise taxes on those earning two and a half million or more to pay for these things? So we may differ a little bit. But one thing we agree on, the debt is not going to go down because of this.

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1600.97 - 1607.172 Sandra Smith

And the people are going to benefit the most are not middle class, working class Americans. It's going to be some people around this table and people much richer.

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1607.292 - 1616.195 Greg Gutfeld

All right, Bernie Sanders. So, Katie, there is no tax on tips. I mean, I don't think that's helping billionaires and trillionaires.

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1616.235 - 1634.361 Katie Pavlich

No taxes on overtime for police officers, for example. No taxes on Social Security. Lots of tax breaks. If this does not pass, it would be the largest tax hike you've ever seen in American history, which is key. So there's lots of components to this. Harold's talking about the CBO score.

1634.401 - 1651.075 Katie Pavlich

You should throw that out the window because it doesn't calculate extra taxes that are paid once you get more of your money back and you put it back into the economy. It doesn't account for regulatory growth and what that costs companies. You talk about people who have large net worth. Well, yeah, their worth is tied up in big companies.

1651.095 - 1669.707 Katie Pavlich

They don't just have cash that they can just give to the government unless the companies go away, Tesla and Twitter being an example of that, Amazon. The White House today is pushing out a number of statements from all kinds of different constituencies. The Uber CEO, DoorDash CEO, Americans for Prosperity, Airlines for America, Numbers USA.

1670.028 - 1685.476 Katie Pavlich

These are all different groups or businesses that have different stakes in this bill, whether it's illegal immigration, travel, the economy. All those things. So they think that this bill is good for their own constituencies and it's diverse. So that's why they're pushing that out.

1685.596 - 1693.039 Katie Pavlich

And if it doesn't pass, Republicans won't have this opportunity again because they have full control of Washington, D.C., which is what reconciliation is all about.

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