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Elon Pretends to Give Up to Avoid Consequences

Sun, 25 May 2025

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports how Elon Musk is pretending to surrender and give up his DOGE efforts while still doing the same stuff so he can try to avoid the consequences of his actions. Start your 90-Day, risk-free trial today at https://JustThriveHealth.com and use promo code: MEIDAS to save 20% on your first bottle. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: Why is Elon Musk pretending to step back?

0.149 - 20.007 Ben Meiselas

You know, it's like clockwork with these sociopaths. They never want to face the consequences of their actions, and so they'll pretend that they're the victim. I'm just gonna have to sail into the sunset. We're seeing this with Elon Musk right now, and frankly, it's absolutely pathetic. Don't buy what he is selling.

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20.467 - 42.322 Ben Meiselas

quite literally and also when it comes to this routine that he's doing, that he's somehow stepping away from the government and he's going back to sleeping on the factory floor, everybody. So that's the sob story that Elon Musk is trying to sell the American people right now. I'm moving away from government. I'm not going to do any more political donations.

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42.762 - 71.756 Ben Meiselas

I'm just going to fade into the background. I tried with Doge. I did my best. Elon Musk, you were still at Capitol Hill last week with the Congressional Energy and Commerce Committee where you were talking about cutting Medicaid. You were with Donald Trump in the Middle East where you met with the leaders of the UAE and Qatar and Saudi Arabia. You were with Donald Trump in the Oval Office when

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72.216 - 96.318 Ben Meiselas

South African President Ramaphosa was there. There's literally nothing has changed other than the fact that you realize that your destruction of our government, the hostile takeover, the cruelty with which you've done everything, has made you one of the most detestable human beings in the United States and the world. And your cars and your other companies are suffering as a result.

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96.358 - 115.174 Ben Meiselas

So you just want to pretend. You want to try to act like you're no longer involved with Doge or anything and that you're just going back to Tesla. And it's total BS. But it's all coordinated, right? I mean, the Wall Street Journal article, angry Elon is back. That's good for Tesla.

Chapter 2: What are the consequences of Musk's actions?

115.535 - 142.584 Ben Meiselas

Now is the moment for Musk to channel his fury into executing on the company's long-promised pivot to driverless cars. You want us to believe all of this crap? I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous. I mean, look, here's what Elon Musk just recently posted. He had his ex-account. He was calling himself Kekias Maximus. And then he changed it back to Elon Musk. And Grok is his background to see.

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142.864 - 167.801 Ben Meiselas

See, I'm serious, everybody. I'm no longer Kekius Maximus. But here's what he posted. I have come to the perhaps obvious conclusion that accelerating GDP growth is essential. Doge has and will do great work to postpone the day of bankruptcy of America. But the profligacy of the government means that only radical improvements in productivity can save our country.

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168.502 - 184.865 Ben Meiselas

In other words, you're just going to use a bunch of gibberish word salad, big words and be like, I tried. I saved us. That's where we are right now. He went from we're going to cut $2 trillion from the deficit to $1 trillion in the deficit today.

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185.325 - 208.99 Ben Meiselas

to $500 million to $150 million, to we're actually adding to the deficit, to, oh my God, we're adding $5 trillion to the deficit, to, oh my God, we may be adding $20 trillion to the deficit. But now it's, I tried. I did my best. I saved us for a few more years. No, you've absolutely made things worse. You made things much worse.

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209.81 - 233.585 Ben Meiselas

Then you have other posts from Elon Musk like this because he's trying to make us feel bad for him. He's trying to make us feel like he's got to go back to the factory to work after destroying our federal government. Let me be very clear also. Doge was never about efficiency. It was never about cutting the deficit. It was always about one thing, stealing your data.

Chapter 3: Is Musk's narrative about Doge credible?

234.185 - 256.809 Ben Meiselas

taking your social security information, taking your medical records, getting all of the data aggregated with Elon Musk's crew, Mr. Big Balls, or whatever they call themselves. And once they did that... That's all they really gave a crap about. And the destruction was the point. They destroyed it all. There's no efficiency.

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256.849 - 275.623 Ben Meiselas

It's not efficient now that in FEMA, there's like very little staff there who can actually respond to emergencies. It's not efficient that at the National Weather Service or the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency, There aren't people who can predict the weather patterns and do the forecasting.

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275.943 - 298.293 Ben Meiselas

It's not efficient when you don't have people answering the phones at the Veteran Affairs Suicide Hotline. It's not efficient when you're not helping 9-11 survivors and first responders, right? It's not efficient when you shut down the Department of Education and you steal school lunches from the mouths of low-income students. It's not efficient when you kick people off of Medicaid programs.

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298.553 - 318.155 Ben Meiselas

It's not efficient when the Federal Aviation Administration just made a total disaster of our airports with massive delays. The radars in Newark and Denver are shutting down. The flights are incredibly dangerous. Planes are crashing. There's nothing efficient. That's not what they were doing.

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319.156 - 337.046 Ben Meiselas

He put the poison pill or the nuclear bomb, blew up the federal government, and now he just goes, I'm going back to spending 24-7 on the factory floor, everybody. I'm not sure why I'm doing a Mickey Mouse voice for that, but here's what he says. I'm not even sure if that was a Mickey Mouse voice. This is his real post from May 24th.

337.606 - 363.658 Ben Meiselas

So yesterday, back to spending 24-7 at work and sleeping in conference server factory rooms. I must be super focused. on X and XAI and Tesla, plus Starship launch next week, as we have critical technologies rolling out. As evidenced by the X uptime issues this week, major operational improvements need to be made. The failover redundancy should have worked, but it did not.

364.358 - 379.109 Ben Meiselas

Let's just take a look at where you've been, Elon. As Mark Pocan points out, Elon Musk was back on Capitol Hill today. This was a few days ago. Anyone actually believe he's stepping back? He's just hiding in the closet, but he's still in the room.

379.61 - 404.951 Ben Meiselas

Trump and Musk are doing everything to get tax cuts for themselves and ripping away your Medicaid and Medicare, even cutting health care for 14 million people and food assistance. That's what he was doing. The week before that, here's a photo of Elon Musk and MBS in Saudi Arabia. Elon Musk took that trip. Of course, you know that Elon was in the room with South African President Ramaphosa.

405.491 - 420.704 Ben Meiselas

So you see all of that. But Elon makes the sob video. He makes the selfie sob video. And he goes, in terms of political spending, I'm going to do a lot less in the future. I think I've done enough. Here, play this clip right here.

Chapter 4: What does Musk say about political spending?

430.43 - 431.17 John Kennedy

And why is that?

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433.511 - 434.212 Jane Doe

I think I've done enough.

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437.574 - 439.395 John Kennedy

Is it because of blowback?

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442.436 - 447.459 Jane Doe

Well, if I see a reason to do political spending in the future, I will do it. I do not currently see a reason.

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Chapter 5: How does Musk's message affect the public?

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517.169 - 542.959 Ben Meiselas

Oh, Elon, we're supposed to feel so bad for you, so bad for you, that you were, what, giving away like a million dollars in different elections if people were registered to vote? I want to share this with you as well. Message from Democratic Congress member Greg Kassar, who goes, Elon Musk is not gone and we can't let Republicans pretend he is just because he's unpopular now.

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543.479 - 564.572 Ben Meiselas

We have to keep up the pressure until we actually fire Elon Musk. And you see Jake Sherman, a Capitol Hill reporter, talked about how last week Elon Musk is on the Hill meeting with the ENC Republicans, Energy and Commerce, on energy and AI. Notably, I think Medicaid is in there as well. The $880 billion cuts are in there as well.

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569.035 - 579.362 Ben Meiselas

Now, this was Donald Trump on a plane recently when he was asked, would you appoint Elon to any other position? Here's what Donald Trump said. Let's play the clip.

Chapter 6: What are the implications for the federal government?

579.582 - 583.545 Donald Trump

They're working very closely with our secretaries and the people that are the heads.

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583.565 - 587.607 Unknown Speaker

Do you think you would appoint him to another position once his hundred and ninety days?

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587.627 - 606.432 Donald Trump

Well, I would. I think Elon's great, but he also has a... company to run or a number of companies to run. That he can do this, that he can find the time. He loves the country, that's why he does it. But we're in no rush. But there'll be a point at which time Elon's going to have to leave.

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606.872 - 614.458 Ben Meiselas

That was on April 3rd. This is on April 3rd as well. Even when Elon leaves, will Doge still be around was the question. Here, play this clip.

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614.738 - 622.604 Unknown Speaker

Even when you, even when Elon leaves, it goes back to being CEO, will Doge stick around in some kind of capacity?

Chapter 7: What should we know about Musk's intentions?

622.664 - 646.288 Donald Trump

Yeah, it'll still Doge, Doge itself, yeah. At some point, just so you understand, I don't want to get it wrong, I want Elon to stay as long as possible. Number one, I like him. Number two, he's doing a great job. Number three, he is a patriot. That's why he's doing this. And he's a very costly man. So I want him to stay as long as possible.

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646.348 - 661.937 Donald Trump

But there'll be a point where he's going to have to leave. And when he does, the secretaries will take totally over. And Doge will stay active. We have a lot of smart people. A lot of those people, I believe, are going to go into the agencies.

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663.16 - 676.604 Ben Meiselas

So, as I mentioned, Elon Musk is not going anywhere. Oh, here was Trump with Ramaphosa pointing out that Elon, the South African president Ramaphosa, pointing out that Elon Musk was in the room. Here, play this clip.

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676.624 - 702.652 Donald Trump

I have many friends from South Africa, but many of those friends are... They can't go back. Elon is from South Africa. I don't want to get Elon involved. That's all I have to do, get him into another thing. But Elon happens to be from South Africa. This is what Elon wanted. He actually came here on a different subject, sending rockets to Mars. He likes that better. He likes that subject better.

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703.133 - 710.475 Donald Trump

But Elon is from South Africa. I don't want to talk to him about that. I don't think it's fair to him. But I will say that.

710.815 - 736.48 Ben Meiselas

Now, where do you think the idea is originating from that the white Afrikaners are given this without basically any paperwork at all? Their citizenship, path to citizenship is fast-tracked into the United States. Who do you think is giving Donald Trump that information that the white South Africans are going through a genocide which they're not in South Africa now?

737.02 - 759.878 Ben Meiselas

There is gang violence in South Africa. It affects white people and black people around the same proportion if we're talking about white and black farmers as well. And it's a horrific thing that there's that gang violence and deaths of farmers in general. But it's not a white genocide taking place in South Africa. Where do you think that's originating from?

760.419 - 781.277 Ben Meiselas

I want to give you just a few more data points before we go as well. In addition to the fact that the MAGA Republicans will be adding somewhere between $5 to $20, maybe even $30 trillion to the deficit. That's what we get with Elon Musk and Doge. I mean, this is the Wall Street Journal headline. The stark math on the GOP tax plan, it doesn't cut the deficit.

781.818 - 808.065 Ben Meiselas

But if you just take a look at the federal spending, just federal spending alone alone. over the past few months. What are we, over 100 days now, 100 and whatever we are. 120, 130, 140 days. Look at the federal spending. This is what Pantheon has to say. Doge is falling well short of its goal to slash federal spending, reducing at least one major near-term downside risk for the economy.

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