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Trump signs executive order to close Department of Education

Fri, 21 Mar 2025

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President Trump has signed an executive order to dismantle the US Department of Education. Also: the Zimbabwean former swimmer, Kirsty Coventry, becomes first female president of the International Olympic Committee.

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Chapter 1: What major changes did President Trump announce?

38.001 - 62.187 Valerie Sanderson

This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Valerie Sanderson and in the early hours of Friday the 21st of March, these are our main stories. President Trump signs an executive order to dismantle the US Department of Education. The first woman, first African and youngest ever International Olympic Committee President, Kirsty Coventry, wins at an election held in Greece.

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62.947 - 86.981 Valerie Sanderson

As ceasefire negotiations continue, President Zelensky tells EU leaders that Russia must stop making unnecessary demands that prolong the war in Ukraine. Also in this podcast, thousands of protesters have defied a government ban and rallied for a second day in Istanbul over the arrest of the city's mayor, a key rival to Turkey's President Erdogan.

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88.262 - 97.069 Protester

If his candidacy is blocked, this will lead to much higher support for him because people in Turkey will not allow their ballot box rights to be denied.

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97.67 - 124.916 Valerie Sanderson

and why the script of the groundbreaking French film Breathless could fetch $650,000. It was one of Donald Trump's chief pledges in the run-up to the 2024 election. And in the last few hours, the president has signed an executive order dismantling the Department of Education, the body which oversees public school funding, student loans and programmes for low-income students.

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Chapter 2: What are the implications of dismantling the Department of Education?

125.516 - 133.639 Valerie Sanderson

Speaking at the White House, Mr Trump accused the department of breathtaking failures, claiming that the US hadn't done well in education for a long time.

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134.329 - 155.583 Donald Trump

We're going to be returning education very simply back to the states where it belongs. And this is a very popular thing to do. But much more importantly, it's a common sense thing to do. And it's going to work. Absolutely, it's going to work. And I can tell you from dealing with the governors and others in the state, they want it so badly.

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155.623 - 168.526 Donald Trump

They want to take their children back and really teach their children individually. Probably the cost will be half individually. and the education will be maybe many, many times better.

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169.086 - 186.611 Valerie Sanderson

The Department of Education has a budget of $268 billion, 4,400 staff, and affects 50 million public school students. The Democrats have described the closure as reckless. Joanna Maska is a former White House advisor who served in the Obama administration.

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It may make people feel better that they feel like they have control because, look, we all want our kids to have the best education. But if we don't have the best data and the best tools at every state level, we have 50 different Department of Educations competing with all of the countries that are providing those resources to their students.

208.533 - 211.935 Valerie Sanderson

Our North America correspondent, Marilyn Thomas, is following developments.

212.595 - 236.547 Marilyn Thomas

On his own, President Trump cannot scrap the entire department. It was set up with congressional approval and so it will need congressional approval to dismantle it as well. And that is not something that is likely to happen because Republicans would need 60 votes in the Senate. It would need a super majority and that's not something that is... likely to happen. It's a political long shot.

237.427 - 260.052 Marilyn Thomas

And even in the House of Representatives, President Trump would likely struggle to gain the necessary support as well. And just as a reminder, there was a vote last year to abolish the Education Department, and that was attached to another amendment as well. But that failed to pass because 60 Republicans joined Democrats in the House to vote no. So like a lot of other President Trump's

260.452 - 284.218 Marilyn Thomas

policy moves, this is likely to just go into court and legal battles. But what impact is this executive order going to have now? So President Trump and his Republican supporters and other Republicans have been keen to emphasise that this will really help the test scores in schools and they blame the department for those test results. But

Chapter 3: Who is Kirsty Coventry and why is her IOC presidency significant?

366.044 - 380.258 Valerie Sanderson

Kirsty Coventry, currently serving as Zimbabwe's sport minister, won the secret ballot at a luxury resort not far from Mount Olympus in Greece. She had this to say after it was announced she'll hold sport's highest office for at least the next eight years.

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381.022 - 395.97 Kirsty Coventry

As a nine-year-old girl, I never thought that I would be standing up here one day getting to give back to this incredible movement of ours. This race was an incredible race, and it made us better, made us a stronger movement.

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396.61 - 408.937 Kirsty Coventry

I know from all of the conversations that I've had with every single one of you how much stronger our movement is going to be when we now come back together and deliver on some of those ideas that we all shared.

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409.887 - 424.966 Valerie Sanderson

It was an emphatic win over six other candidates bidding for the job. But for a governing body with a history of corruption and scandals, what will Kirsty Coventry hope to achieve in her presidency? BBC Sports' Alex Kapstick is in Costa Navarino in Greece.

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425.805 - 447.734 Alex Ritson

It's absolutely an historic day, one that not so long ago people thought wouldn't happen for decades. They felt that the safest voice would be another man. That hasn't happened. They've gone with Kirsty Coventry in the build-up. She didn't want the fact that she was a female to be the reason why she was chosen. She wanted to be picked because she's the right person for the job.

447.774 - 463.103 Alex Ritson

But she did say she would bring a different set of skills to the role, some softer skills, and that would help the movement. And in fact, all the other... Contenders, just before I spoke to you, they were saying that it's good that a former athlete is in charge of the movement. I think what was surprising is that she won in the first round.

463.123 - 484.217 Alex Ritson

This was a race that was said to be very, very close, very fine margins. Nobody thought with seven candidates that one of them would get 50 plus 1% in the first round of voting. And that Kirsty Coventry did that. And so, yeah, it was not a massive surprise she has won, but a surprise she did it so quickly.

484.898 - 494.81 Valerie Sanderson

And what are the main issues do you think she faces first? Are you thinking of Russia's involvement in future games, drugs and the whole transgender issue in sport?

495.111 - 502.901 Alex Ritson

Well, I think initially she probably has to convince the world that she's the right person. She's very young, only 41 years old, much younger than any other previous player.

Chapter 4: How is the EU responding to the war in Ukraine?

550.422 - 571.016 Alex Ritson

It had a successful Games in Paris, but coming up, there are some dark clouds. The LA Games dealing with Donald Trump, who said that he's going to not allow... transgender athletes who want to compete in the female category from entering the USA. Athletes from other countries may struggle to get visas as well. So that's something she's got to look at closely.

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571.636 - 591.42 Alex Ritson

And then there's Russia's reintegration. If peace is made between Russia and Ukraine, that won't be welcomed by all sports and all national federations. And then climate change. A lot of athletes, hundreds of athletes, in fact, have written to the IRC demanding that the new president... puts climate change and sustainability right at the top of their list of priorities.

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592.509 - 611.582 Valerie Sanderson

Alex Kapstick. A day after speaking to President Trump on ending the war in Ukraine, President Zelensky has been addressing European Union leaders on the need to not give in to Vladimir Putin. Mr Zelensky told them that the Russian leader must stop making what he called unnecessary demands that prolong the war in Ukraine.

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612.243 - 616.526 Valerie Sanderson

As well as political support, the Ukrainian president also called for more military aid.

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617.256 - 643.045 Volodymyr Zelensky

We need funds for artillery shells and would really appreciate Europe's support with at least 5 billion euros as soon as possible. Investments in weapons production are needed both in Ukraine and in your countries. Everything necessary to defend the continent should be produced here in Europe. We must work toward this together.

643.766 - 656.116 Valerie Sanderson

EU leaders have been meeting in Brussels to discuss the economic and military challenges facing the continent. Our Europe regional editor, Danny Eberhard, is there and told me more about whether President Zelensky had got what he wanted.

656.696 - 681.651 Danny Eberhard

In terms of military aid, Val, probably not. He did get some commitment, a backing from the EU's foreign policy chief, Kaya Callas, on that request. Therefore, about $5 billion worth of artillery shells. She's proposed an initiative for EU members to get involved in delivering supplies. about two million large caliber artillery shells this year to Ukraine.

681.991 - 706.037 Danny Eberhard

That hasn't actually been endorsed, though, by EU leaders. So for the moment, it's just a proposal. Obviously, Ukraine can't get enough military aid as things stand. We obviously recently had a pause of U.S. military aid that has since restarted. But there are ongoing clashes both on the front line and also strikes, obviously, both

706.417 - 715.323 Danny Eberhard

from Russia against Ukraine and also Ukrainian drone strikes against Russian territory as well. So the combat, despite ceasefire talk, is still very much ongoing.

Chapter 5: What are the security concerns in Estonia amid Russia tensions?

811.704 - 828.67 Danny Eberhard

So it's backing President Trump's push for a ceasefire, but it stresses this is not just about Ukraine's security, it's about Europe's security as well. And what's needed is a durable, comprehensive ceasefire in Ukraine so that Russia doesn't restart an aggression later on.

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829.465 - 853.081 Valerie Sanderson

Dani Eberhard. Well, one issue worrying leaders of countries near Russia is where President Putin might attack next. Many are concerned he may set his sights on the city of Narva in Estonia, where almost all the nearly 60,000 people living there speak Russian, and which is situated just across the river Narva from Russia itself. From there, our Europe editor Katja Adler sent us this report.

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854.922 - 856.063 Volodymyr Zelensky

NATO, you are cleared for takeoff.

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859.312 - 883.17 Katya Adler

This is no ordinary plane ride. I'm on a very loud NATO surveillance plane, a 707, with a huge mushroom-looking radar on top of the aircraft. We're flying over the Baltic states. As I walk down the aisle, instead of rows of seats, I'm looking at rows of desks with NATO personnel scanning computer screens, searching for suspicious activity below by Russia.

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883.47 - 892.697 Aneta

My name is Aneta and I'm the surveillance controller. We can see two military fighters over there. We assume it's a Russian activity over Kaliningrad.

892.877 - 907.731 Katya Adler

So NATO's showing its presence and they're showing theirs? Exactly. I can see Estonia clearly below us. It's policing missions like this and NATO membership, full stop, that for a long time has made the Baltics feel safe.

908.271 - 931.337 Katya Adler

But Donald Trump is changing that with his far more open attitude towards Moscow and his very clear message for Europe that US military backing can no longer be taken for granted. That sent a chill through NATO members in the Baltics. I'm in the northern town of Narva by the river of the same name, dividing Estonia from Russia.

931.957 - 953.972 Katya Adler

There's a medieval-looking fortress either side of the river, one flying the Russian, the other the Estonian flag. And in between, the bridge, one of Europe's last pedestrian crossings, still open to Russia. I've come to speak to border police chief Egert Belichev. Estonia's security services say Moscow is constantly testing them.

954.392 - 972.698 Egert Belichev

We have a border with the Russian Federation. It's 338 kilometers. There is constant provocations and constant tensions on the border. We know all the tricks and there is a constant GPS signal jamming. It has huge consequences also how we are able to carry out our tasks on the border.

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