Hugh Schofield
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US judge temporarily blocks Trump's freeze on federal funding
The creation of these new rooms should enable the Mona Lisa to be installed in a special area, accessible independently from the rest of the museum.
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US judge temporarily blocks Trump's freeze on federal funding
The creation of these new rooms should enable the Mona Lisa to be installed in a special area, accessible independently from the rest of the museum, with its own access ticket. but it will also create conditions that will enable it to be visited in a different and perhaps more peaceful way.
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US judge temporarily blocks Trump's freeze on federal funding
This is President Macron's new grand projet, big cultural plan. And it's been drawn up in response to warnings from management that right now the Louvre is cracking under the strain. Visitor numbers have shot up to 9 million a year. That's a person a second, while the building and its infrastructure are ageing badly. The main announcement is an architectural competition to design a new entrance.
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US judge temporarily blocks Trump's freeze on federal funding
which will be at the eastern end of the museum, where there's now a wide classical colonnade. Inside, there'll be new underground spaces, one of which will be for the rehoused Mona Lisa. The painting is by far the Louvre's biggest attraction, but visitor numbers are simply too big. So it'll get its own exhibition room, hopefully relieving pressure on the rest of the Renaissance collection.
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Trump and Zelensky agree to future talks
Es war ein französischer Präsident, der das tut, was französische Präsidenten tun, was die Nation leitet, in einer Zeit, in der, das sei Frankreich, die Menschen tendieren, sich zu der Elysee zu achten und sich zu ihrem Leiter zu achten, um irgendeine Art von Beleidigung zu bekommen, was passiert.
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Trump and Zelensky agree to future talks
Es gab keine großen Erkennungen, es gab keine Erkennungen oder Voraussetzungen oder Voraussetzungen, aber es war eine Anzeige für die Vorbereitung, wenn Sie so wollen, der Menschen. Ich glaube, das ist ein sehr wichtiger Punkt. People have to know that that's coming. So it was that. I mean, it was, you know, it was a presidential address to impress on people that this really is a big change.
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Trump and Zelensky agree to future talks
It's not just since the fall of the Berlin Wall, but since the liberation. I mean, this is the biggest change to the configuration of power in Europe since the end of the Second World War.
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Trump and Zelensky agree to future talks
I think the response is generally positive to that. I mean, you know, after the German announcement yesterday of this, you know, this radical shift and the injection of, you know, billions and billions of Euros into defense spending with the van der Leyen plan, as outlined a couple of days previously on ways of raising money at the European level. Quite clearly, you know, the wind is with Macron.
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Trump and Zelensky agree to future talks
I mean, Macron isn't one to crow, but he is crowing a little bit when he says, as he did today, that this is something which we in France have been pushing for for a long time, this idea of European strategic autonomy. Well, now it's happening. It's not in a way which we wanted it to happen. We'd rather it happened now. In a coordinated way with America.
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Trump and Zelensky agree to future talks
But what has happened in America means that this willy-nilly is how we have to proceed. And of course there are going to be differences in Europe still about how the money is raised, about where the arms industries are to be based and more specifically on...
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Trump and Zelensky agree to future talks
Wenn es um die Ukraine geht, geht es jetzt um die Deployment von potenziellen Kriegsführern dort und Geld, das noch in die Ukraine gehen könnte und so weiter. Aber ich denke, die große Bildung, die Art von Epoch, die Änderung zu machen, die es um Europa geht, um die Selbstsuffizienz in der Sicherheit, ist etwas, das breit verteilt ist.
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Erdogan calls Turkey protests 'evil' as unrest continues
Suffering from diabetes and a heart condition and looking very overweight, Gérard Depardieu entered the courtroom leaning on the shoulder of his lawyer. Of the several sexual harassment allegations that have been made against him, these are the first to come to trial.
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Erdogan calls Turkey protests 'evil' as unrest continues
The plaintiffs, a set decorator and an assistant director on a film made in Paris in 2021, say that he groped them using lewd language, touching their buttocks and breasts. Depardieu denies the charges and this afternoon his lawyer told the court that he would present witnesses from the film set who would testify that nothing untoward happened.
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Erdogan calls Turkey protests 'evil' as unrest continues
Gérard Depardieu is probably the best-known French actor alive today and in his time was revered for his instinctual masculine presence on camera.
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Over 100 dead in earthquake in Tibet
and fighters of freedom in the world. Chants of Le Pen président at a rally in 2002. This was the high point of his career, when he gave the shock of their lives to France's ruling elites by qualifying for round two of the presidentials. He lost then, of course, heavily to Jacques Chirac.
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Over 100 dead in earthquake in Tibet
But what he'd done with his one in five of the vote was show that the ideas he represented, populist, nationalist, far right, racist, whatever the French chose to call them, could no longer be ignored. What followed, the further success of the Front National in recent years under his daughter Marine, was only the confirmation.
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Over 100 dead in earthquake in Tibet
By then, though, Jean-Marie Le Pen had become persona non grata even in his own party. He was a figure of the past, respected, to be sure, for keeping the nationalist flame alive all those years, but whose roots in French Algeria, militarism, Catholicism, now seemed out of date. And above all, whose verbal provocations were an embarrassment.
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Over 100 dead in earthquake in Tibet
Prime among these provocations was a radio interview originally made in 1987 in which Jean-Marie Le Pen said that the gas chambers were a detail of the Second World War. He never, of course, actually denied the gas chambers, but it was a provocation. He was baiting the establishment, as he so enjoyed doing.
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Over 100 dead in earthquake in Tibet
And that, indeed, was Jean-Marie Le Pen's trademark throughout his long life, from his Brittany peasant childhood, heading the Law Students' Union, becoming the youngest MP in 1956 under the populist Pierre Pujard, fighting in Indochina and Algeria, and then in 1972, helping set up the party with which he was so long identified.
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Over 100 dead in earthquake in Tibet
He was an outsider, a man who hated and fought the Gaullist settlement in France post-1958 and found in that cause a channel for his considerable ego. A bully, certainly, but also charming and humorous and a great speaker. He was the bogey of the establishment, especially of the left. But both sides knew what was going on. They needed a pariah, someone to throw into outer political darkness.
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Over 100 dead in earthquake in Tibet
There's been a delegation led by the president and with the former president, François Hollande, who was, of course, present at the time of the attack, the prime minister, François Bayrou, the mayor of Paris. They were there, family members of the dead.
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Over 100 dead in earthquake in Tibet
They were there outside the offices, not far from where I am now, to lay the wreath and to have a moment of reflection before they moved on to a couple of other sites related to the attacks. Just down the road, there was a place where the Kowalski brothers murdered a Muslim policeman who was on patrol on that day. And They shot him dead.
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Over 100 dead in earthquake in Tibet
And right now, the delegation has moved across town of short distance away to the Jewish supermarket, which, if you remember, in a separate but synchronized attack was a scene of another atrocity where another jihadist gunman, Amiri Koulibaly, shot dead four Jewish people who he'd taken hostage before he was shot dead.
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Over 100 dead in earthquake in Tibet
And indeed, at almost exactly the same time, two days later, after the original attacks, the Qawashi brothers were also cornered and shot dead as well. So it's been a solemn moment with this added fact that it's the 10th anniversary now and the time to reflect more, perhaps, on what happened then and on changes since.
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Over 100 dead in earthquake in Tibet
It felt as horrific as everyone said, and it still does in a way. Everyone has to pinch oneself. It seemed at the time quite extraordinary that the mere fact of drawing pictures, cartoons, would be enough to provoke this kind of violent reaction, that they should die for that. I think what's happened since is that we've kind of got used to it, and it doesn't seem quite so...
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Over 100 dead in earthquake in Tibet
I won't say it's less shocking, but it's certainly an idea we've had to accustom ourselves to. Now, the other thing that's happened is, I suppose, that this spirit of just for Charlie, the idea that the country would come together and reject all of this and be united by the cause of freedom of speech and the right to offend. as long as it's done in a way that is not insightful to violence.
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Over 100 dead in earthquake in Tibet
That is an issue which people espouse on one level, but on another level, of course, it's completely disappeared. The fact is that people are afraid publications will not publish things that they published before, and to that extent, you know, we are not Charlie anymore.
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Trump aide tells Ukraine to ''tone down'' US criticism
The president of Algeria, Abdelmajid Taboun, gave an interview saying that the whole affair was a concoction intended to mobilize opinion against Algeria. The truth is that Boualem Sansal is caught up in a bigger crisis, which is the recent breakdown in relations between France and Algeria, possibly the worst since Algerian independence 60 years ago. Sansal is a victim and a kind of hostage.
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Trump aide tells Ukraine to ''tone down'' US criticism
He's never written a word that is seditious or inflammatory, merely described the world around him as he sees it. His lawyer, still waiting for the chance to visit him in prison, is François Zimouret.
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Trump aide tells Ukraine to ''tone down'' US criticism
With his long grey ponytail, Boualem Sansal was a familiar face in the French media. This was him on a popular chat show a few years ago when he'd released a new novel. He was a kind of go-to guy on Algeria, not least because he was very critical of the government there.
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Trump aide tells Ukraine to ''tone down'' US criticism
So it was a shock when, in November, it was announced that on a visit to Algiers, Sansol had been arrested at the airport under state security laws. I am the publisher of the last book of Boulem Sansol. Paris publisher Jean-François Colosimo knows Boilem Sansal well. He describes him as a humane and gentle person and a genuine free thinker.
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Trump aide tells Ukraine to ''tone down'' US criticism
Sansal had been getting up the nose of the Algerian government for many years. From semi-exile in France, he wrote about corruption, about what he saw as the carve-up of power between the Algerian military and Islamists, about the threat to France of Islamists.
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Trump aide tells Ukraine to ''tone down'' US criticism
And in this interview, on a website close to France's hard-right National Rally Party not long before his arrest, he may have overstepped the mark, calling into question aspects of Algeria's official account of its own history. On the internet, the reaction from pro-Algerian influencers in France has been vitriolic, accusing Sansal of being a stooge for Marine Le Pen.
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Israel delays scheduled release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners
The bare facts seem pretty clear that there was a demonstration in Malu this afternoon in support of Congo, the African country. And around this demonstration there were many police officers on patrol. And it seems that this man launched his knife attack against police officers, not against people taking part in the attack.
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Israel delays scheduled release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners
Another person, it seems, tried to intervene and this person was knifed and died and was killed by the man. The man is under arrest and in detention and it's been revealed by the prosecutor that he's a 37-year-old Algerian man and he cried out Allahu Akbar at the time of his act. So this has been classified as a terrorist attack and it also has been reported now and confirmed that the man...
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Israel delays scheduled release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners
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Four Israeli hostages and 200 Palestinian prisoners released in Gaza deal
Through research, through interviews we at ECFR have been conducting, we know that it is still very much in control of Gaza. Despite thousands of losses in its armed wing, the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigade, Hamas has nonetheless been able to recruit new members, and it has also mobilized some of its reserve forces.
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Four Israeli hostages and 200 Palestinian prisoners released in Gaza deal
And to quote actually Secretary Blinken, Hamas appears to have finished the war in Gaza with about as many fighters as the start of the war.
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Four Israeli hostages and 200 Palestinian prisoners released in Gaza deal
Yeah, that is quite amazing, isn't it? And again, some of these will be new recruits, but some of these may also be recruits to other components of Hamas. It is also a party of governance. And of course, it's also a political party. So it is also possible. It is also trying to regenerate the ranks of Gaza's civil police and also trying to recruit new civil servants to run Gaza's governance.
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Four Israeli hostages and 200 Palestinian prisoners released in Gaza deal
There is, I think, a lot of frustration and anger against Hamas's actions on 7th of October, and especially from the point of view of Gazans. However, there is far stronger hatred directed at Israel. When we look at public opinion polling, Hamas' standing in Gaza is at about 35%. That's actually quite constant throughout Hamas' history.
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Four Israeli hostages and 200 Palestinian prisoners released in Gaza deal
The West Bank, according to one of the most recent polling, is about 37%. That may not seem like a lot, but it needs to be compared to the weakness of the other political parties, especially the Fatah party, which is extremely unpopular at the moment.
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The secret police's grip on Syria under Assad
France's new prime minister, François Bayrou, is a familiar face. At 73, he's represented a centrist strand in politics for four decades, serving as education minister in the 1990s and running unsuccessfully three times for the presidency. In some ways, he was a precursor of Emmanuel Macron, with the same notion of transcending the old left-right divide.
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The secret police's grip on Syria under Assad
And with his small modem party, he's been a natural ally since the president took office. Today, though, his task looks more than daunting, a fact which he acknowledged in a short address as he took office. He was, he said, fully aware of the Himalayan scale of the challenge ahead, the debt, the deficit, the risk of society falling apart.
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The secret police's grip on Syria under Assad
But it was still worth trying to find a path ahead, a path, he said, that could only come through national reconciliation. It is indeed a divided and disillusioned country that Mr Beirut inherits, a parliament that's incapable of providing a firm government and a people more and more inclined to switch off and blank the political mess entirely.
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The secret police's grip on Syria under Assad
His first task is to put together a government, which won't be simple, and then, just three weeks before year's end, try to get a budget together for 2025. The last one, now in the bin, was what brought down his predecessor.
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French far-right leader, Le Pen, banned from politics for five years
We now have, after a very, very tense couple of hours, we have a definitive verdict and sentence on Marine Le Pen. And that sentence is the worst she could possibly have hoped for. In other words, a five-year period of ineligibility to be carried out straight away, regardless of whether or not she appeals. And this is the key point in all of this.
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French far-right leader, Le Pen, banned from politics for five years
I think everyone, even she herself, expected to be convicted on the charges. But the key question was what she would be sentenced to. And there was... Ein legaler Satz, der am Herzen ist, der französische Exekution Provisoire. Wenn diese Worte von der Präsidentin des Gerichts, dem Gericht, geäußert wurden, würde das Zeitraum der Unabhängigkeit direkt aufhören. Sie hat diese Worte geäußert.
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French far-right leader, Le Pen, banned from politics for five years
Das Zeitraum ist fünf Jahre. Und was das bedeutet, ist, dass Marine Le Pen in der nächsten Wahl in 2027 nicht laufen kann. Das ist ein legaler Witz, von dem ich völlig unbewusst bin. Ich bin nicht sicher, ob jemand davon denken kann. Sie kann nicht im Jahr 2027 laufen. Sie ist Favorit, um in diesen Wahlkampf zu laufen.
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French far-right leader, Le Pen, banned from politics for five years
Favorit in dem Sinne, dass sie by far der populärste einzelne Kandidat in der ersten Runde dieser Wahl ist. Es wäre ihre vierte Versuchung, die Präsidentin zu bekommen. Und bei dieser vierten Versuchung würde sie die höchst... So what does this do to the political picture in France? Our Europe editor is Paul Moss.
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Turkey protests: More than 1,000 people arrested in 5 days
Gerard Depardieu is in the court. He arrived shortly before the session opened looking OK, but looking his age, let's not forget that he's also quite ill in the sense that he has a heart condition and diabetes. And that's one reason why this court case was postponed from its original scheduled date, which was in October.
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Turkey protests: More than 1,000 people arrested in 5 days
And even now there are sort of special provisions to account for his poor state of health. It's the first time Gerard Depardieu has come to trial after a number of allegations about his behaviour on film sets dating back many, many years. In this particular case, we're talking about a film which was made a few years ago, sang without trace, the film called Les Voluves.
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Turkey protests: More than 1,000 people arrested in 5 days
Incidentally, about an ageing actor coming to terms with his own declining career. On the set, there were two women who said that they were abused sexually by Gerard Deposier, that he... He groped them, that he manhandled them, that he touched their breasts and their buttocks, that one of them complained and said she wanted an apology.
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Turkey protests: More than 1,000 people arrested in 5 days
She got a kind of apology, but one accompanied by all sorts of lewd language and so on. The defence, that is, Gerard W and his lawyers, contest this totally, say that only one side of the story has been heard so far. I mean, this is a very big story in France.
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Turkey protests: More than 1,000 people arrested in 5 days
Gerard Depordieu, we know, has been the butt of many, many accusations of sexual misbehaviour, abuse, lewd behaviour, going back some years now. But before that, he was what they call here a monstre sacré, a holy monster of cinema. In other words, the most admired and highly regarded of cinema actors of his time.
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Turkey protests: More than 1,000 people arrested in 5 days
And, I mean, probably the most well-known French male actor around the world, I would say. But, of course... His star fell dramatically when these accusations started coming in in the wake of the Me Too movement a few years ago, and now his reputation is a shadow of its former self.
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'Peace must not mean a surrender of Ukraine,' Macron says after talks with Trump
Four months after a hip replacement and against the advice of his surgeon, Chris Terrell crossed the finish line of the Brighton Marathon and became an unlikely world record holder. He's run more than 50 marathons and says he'd planned to take this one easy. But a shout-out from race starter Paula Ratcliffe and a rousing seaside crowd propelled him on.
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'Peace must not mean a surrender of Ukraine,' Macron says after talks with Trump
He'd shattered his hip playing cricket, had a replacement joint fitted, but he still wanted to keep his place in the 26.2 mile race and raise money for the Royal Navy and Royal Marines charity.
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'Peace must not mean a surrender of Ukraine,' Macron says after talks with Trump
He plans to run the Brighton Marathon again this year, but this time without the crutches.
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European leaders reaffirm support for Ukraine
It was during that treatment that... Medics discovered the king also had cancer. Now, it's never been confirmed what type of cancer the king had. It was said that he didn't have prostate cancer, but they've never gone into any other specifics beyond that. Now, of course, as you might expect... He suspended public duties from then on and didn't resume them until late April last year.
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European leaders reaffirm support for Ukraine
It seems from the communications we've had from Buckingham Palace this evening that it is with some regret that he has had to cancel some of his appointments today and also what he was scheduled to do in Birmingham tomorrow. That statement from Buckingham Palace talking about the side effects
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European leaders reaffirm support for Ukraine
that he has encountered as a result of his treatment, but palace sources saying that that's no surprise, that these sorts of side effects are common when it comes to this type of treatment. They say that they are temporary and such issues are not uncommon with medical individuals. We know that the King spent some time in hospital today.
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European leaders reaffirm support for Ukraine
He went back to the London Clinic, which is where he was initially diagnosed and is now recovering at home in Clarence House. He is said to be going through his state papers and making calls from his residence there.
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European leaders reaffirm support for Ukraine
Royal sources are telling us that this is a, in their words, most minor bump in the road that is going in the right direction. I'll take you back to February last year, early February 2024, and that was when King Charles was first diagnosed with cancer. three nights in the London Clinic, a private hospital in the capital. He was being treated for what was described as a benign enlarged prostate.
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Trump signs executive order to close Department of Education
From the opening sequence with cocky tough guy Jean-Paul Belmondo driving through rural France and nonchalantly shooting dead a traffic cop, you know you're watching a revolution in cinema. As Jean-Luc Godard later said of his generation of new wave directors, we walked into cinema like cavemen into Versailles. The love interest in Breathless was the American Gene Seberg.
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Trump signs executive order to close Department of Education
It was all made on the hoof in Paris, with a tiny budget, minimal lighting and a handheld camera. Oh, yes, and a script that kept changing. Jean-Luc Godard said his best inspirations came at the last minute, so often the actors were more or less improvising. It means that this document, put on sale now by the widow of the film's producer, is at best a partial script.
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Trump signs executive order to close Department of Education
Large parts of the film were simply never put down on paper. Not that it matters. All the classic bits are there, notably the ending, when the dying Belmondo, just shot by police on the street, looks up at Seberg and says, you're disgusting. I'm not disgusting.
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Trump signs executive order to close Department of Education
What is disgusting?
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Israel accuses Hamas of 'evil' violation of ceasefire
In recent years, France has watched nervously the growth of knife crime among adolescents in the UK, and now it fears the plague is spreading across the channel. There are regular reports now of attacks with knives by teenagers normally on other teenagers. The most shocking recent case was of a 14-year-old boy in Paris stabbed to death by two older boys who wanted to steal his mobile phone.
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Israel accuses Hamas of 'evil' violation of ceasefire
The new measure means that from the spring, police officers will conduct spot checks outside certain middle and secondary schools. Elisabeth Bourne said she was very worried about the growing use of knives among the young.
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Murder suspect Luigi Mangione faces charges in New York court
Giselle Pellico arrived at the court just like on every other day, with lawyers, TV crews and supporters all in attendance. But today was different. Today marked the end of the trial and of her trial. At half past nine, the judge began the long list of verdicts, beginning with Dominique Pellico, the husband who for ten years used to drug her to sleep and then invite in other men to rape her.
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Murder suspect Luigi Mangione faces charges in New York court
He was guilty. The sentence, 20 years. And then the other 50 accused, the men who abused her as she lay in her bed, comatose, all of them guilty. Their sentences were lesser, three to 15 years, shorter than what had been demanded by the prosecution. Six were able to leave the court free because of time already served in pretrial custody.
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Murder suspect Luigi Mangione faces charges in New York court
Outside the courthouse, opposite the old walls of Avignon, Giselle Pellicot's supporters cheered the verdicts but were less happy with the sentences, which many felt were too lenient.
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Murder suspect Luigi Mangione faces charges in New York court
Back inside the courthouse, Dominique Pellicot's lawyer said that he took note of the verdict and would decide in the coming days whether or not to appeal. The lawyer said that for her part, she hoped the trial result would bring some level of peace to Giselle. And then finally it was the moment to hear her reaction.
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Murder suspect Luigi Mangione faces charges in New York court
She was in a state of emotional turmoil, she said, so she'd written down her few words. She thanked her family and her lawyers and all those who'd helped her to bear with the last three months of strain.
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Murder suspect Luigi Mangione faces charges in New York court
Surrounded by a crush of supporters and journalists, Giselle Pellico was escorted by police down the front steps of the courthouse. Thank you, Giselle, they shouted from the crowd. Then she was driven away for the last time, her ordeal over an unwitting icon.
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Syria: thousands celebrate 'Victory Day'
Mr. Bayer is a very, very familiar person on the French political scene and has been for 40 years. He's a bit of a kind of never was a I mean, he always is a man close to power, but never quite getting it. But he's there and he represents a strand in French politics, which is a consistent going back to the postwar era, Christian Democrat tradition, different from the Gaullists tradition.
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Syria: thousands celebrate 'Victory Day'
who obviously stem from Charles de Gaulle, but close to them and allied to them. He first became a minister in 1993, education minister, hasn't been a minister since, except very briefly under Macron at the very beginning of Macron's term. He's run for presidency three times himself, but above all, he is now an ally of President Macron. And, you know, his latest sort of...
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Syria: thousands celebrate 'Victory Day'
identification has been as someone very much in the Macron camp, lending his small party, 35 MPs, support to President Macron throughout Macron's career. So very close to Macron now, but a man with his own temperament, his own ideas, a lot of experience, and willing now, particularly given Macron's weakness, I think, to push his own line. A bit of a power struggle now with Macron.
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Syria: thousands celebrate 'Victory Day'
Well, this is obviously the question that everyone's going to be asking. The beginnings are OK. You know, the reactions from just about everyone have been, well, let's give them some time. But that was also the reaction with Michel Barnier, let us not forget. No one except for the far left, the hard left, France and that bad party is saying outright, we want to bring this man down.
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Syria: thousands celebrate 'Victory Day'
They are saying that. They say they'll vote a vote of censure. But everyone else is saying, no, no, we're going to see what happens. But of course, that's all very well now. The key moment is going to be when he produces the budget, which he has to very quickly, and that's when the divisions will come clear. Hugh Schofield talking to me from Paris.