The Charlie Kirk Show
THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 71 — Airline DEI Again! Fed Redditors? Gayest Movie Ever?
Sat, 01 Feb 2025
Charlie, Jack, Blake, and Tyler hit the biggest topics of an electric second week of the Trump Admin, including: -Did DEI play a role in the Potomac River plane crash? -What are whiny federal employees admitting to over on Reddit? -Why are thousands of Mexicans demanding refunds after seeing the Oscar darling movie "Emilia Perez"?Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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It is, although I was just in Canada for like three hours ago, and now I'm here.
Why were you in Canada?
Yeah, so it looked like you were in front of a U.S. government plane at Joint Base Andrews. Am I correct? Actually, that was DCA. You were at DCA today flying to Canada. Wow, I thought that all air travel shut down.
I was at DCA today and I flew to Canada. Yeah, we got one of the first flights. It was a Coast Guard plane and we flew right over the wreckage. Coast Guard. And I was embedded with Secretary Noem and we went up to visit the border station in Vermont where the border agent was killed on Trump's inauguration day.
Yeah, so tell us more about that, Jack. Give us kind of the inside baseball. Both of us had government flights this week. I'm actually more interested in yours. There's a fleet of DHS flights. Kristi Noem has been off to a very, very quick start. So tell us what you saw and kind of walk us through that flying up to Vermont for the day.
Oh, it was interesting, you know, so we, you know, Coast Guard flight. So Coast Guard is under the Department of Homeland Security. A lot of people think, even though the Coasties are part of the military, that they're under the DOD. But no, it's actually under Homeland Security. It kind of falls under the Border Patrol mission. It makes sense for them to work hand in hand.
So got to participate in a sort of a back brief on the NTSB situation. Obviously, we flew from right next to where the NTSB was meeting, where they were having the...
Well, what started as a recovery mission and then later turned to, or excuse me, started as a rescue mission and later turned to a recovery mission and got to be with the secretary while she met with the Coast Guard, met with the team that's in charge of that, obviously did not go as a lot of people had hoped and they were not able to recover any survivors, but still digging down.
and what exactly took place. Got to see the fuselage of the plane that flew over the fuselage of the helicopter. Apparently one of the issues with the helicopter is that it's actually upside down in the Potomac River, and they're right in that channel. So it's... Just horrific, completely horrific.
And then flying up to Vermont, people might not realize this, but that sector there between Montreal and New York City, that is the highest traffic sector on the entire northern border because that's your corridor to Boston and New York and so much of the Canadian population is there.
And what people will do now is, because they think the southern border is more guarded, that you will have Mexicans, Chinese, sometimes even Iranians and Venezuelans that will fly into Canada. And they can get this sort of temporary visa for Canada for like $7 through this ETA system.
And then they'll come down through the northern border where, and I posted a video of this earlier, in some areas... It's completely unguarded. You could just drive a car across a field or drive a car from one road onto another, and then boom, you're suddenly inside the United States. And this, of course, is where we had that.
And the story is just kind of coming out now, but where apparently the suspect in the shooting of the Border Patrol agent last week has, and the New York Post has the headline, is was a member of a transgender cult and was possibly planning this as some sort of an attack rather than just being a random thing that's happened by chance.
So that's a segue. Who wants to kick us off? How about Blake? Blake, the audience is probably almost assuredly well aware of what happened in the Potomac. Actually, it was right outside my hotel room last evening. It woke up my son, actually. It was so loud outside of our hotel room. Woke him up, and we weren't sure what was going on. Obviously, we found out.
We were looking at the emergency lights almost... all evening uh blake president trump had a press conference where he went after dei is that connected to this at all and more broadly what does dei have to do with air traffic control kind of coming full circle here for the thought crime program
Yeah, exactly, Charlie. Exactly. It's been almost exactly one year since we got a lot of attention because we talked about our feelings about pilots. And then I believe Joy Reid today got very angry. And I can't remember my name. I think it was Joy Reid. She was bashing Charlie. She's like, President Trump is literally listening to Charlie Kirk.
What Trump was doing with the press today, he was doing one of his classic Trump free association things where he was just like, you know, they've been talking to me about this. We've heard about this. They have this DEI in the federal government, you know, in the air traffic controllers. And it's all stuff that's real. Now, did it have to do with what happened today? The answer is we don't know.
It has to be investigated. We will be investigating it in the days and weeks to come.
maybe it will maybe it won't but what's natural and very very true is there is a ton of worrisome dei stuff that has happened in the piloting space and the air traffic control space and that deserves attention because it's sort of it's the perfect encapsulation of how insane the ideology is like i think a lot of people there are people out there who i think would be okay with
basically DEI reasoning like okay yeah we can give preferences for the sake of diversity because like we're just we're just hiring janitors right or we're hiring this stuff it doesn't really matter and you have to tell people no like we're actually doing this for life and death situations we are changing the rules to lower standards and focus on diversity over ability in things where if you screw it up you will die that's why we've talked about it with medical school admissions because they've done it there
But they've also been doing it for a decade at this point in stuff related to air transportation. So we were tweeting about this today. We've talked about it on this show before. We've had guests on your show, Charlie. Like, for example, the Obama, the Obama.
Blake, we talked about it on this show. I don't remember. Have we ever talked about this subject on the show?
I don't recall. Believe it or not. It was the most viral moment in the history of thought. It was number one viral. It was number one viral in thought crime history.
Yeah.
And we're going to bring it back.
And I got so many high fives.
It was pinned. It was like, it was like pinned on like all the left wing, you know, accounts that track this show.
I think it might still be pinned on Patriot takes.
I should go check. It was actually, it might still be.
It was my favorite because every time I, it was after that very poignantly, every pilot I ever came across would like fist bump me coming onto the, off the plane while, while wearing my turning point gear. Yeah.
hey hey yeah would they tell you what's going on i it was clear we didn't even have to like see we didn't have to verbalize they didn't have to but did any of them because i i don't think they get we didn't have time it was just more of like a like a head nod onto the plane of the nod hey oh yeah hey what's up like i'm almost all airline employees it was after this conversation
They're giving you the nod. It was like it went around and everybody was talking.
And for the record, for the record, Daryl Scott and I have made up, meaning like he was a big attacker on this whole thing. Yeah. And even Daryl Scott tweeted out, not necessarily about this, but he said Charlie Kirk was right and we're all friends. And so it's all good. So let's actually play this. This is Joy Reid, who kind of comes back and says, that I must be in Trump's ear about this.
No, I've actually not spoken to the president about this topic. Other things I have spoken to him about, but not this thing. So you're wrong on this one, Joy, but keep guessing. Play cut 209.
And so this idea that the current president would infer that DEI or that really anyone at this point, Joy, is to blame for this tragic mishap, I mean... We're still pulling bodies out of the river. Think about that. An investigation will happen. It will take probably a month, maybe more. There's a number of things that could have happened. This is a very busy airspace.
Military flying is also very dangerous. We have the potential for pilots to have been on night vision goggles. There's lots of things. But you know what? Anybody making blame right now is wrong. It's irresponsible. And it's particularly shameful for the president of the United States to make it.
It seems that he's listening to Charlie Kirk, right? Charlie Kirk back in 2024 said that when he sees a black pilot, he wonders if they're even qualified at all. Donald Trump came out, essentially tried to blame diversity for this and throw it on their favorite, you know, DEI, which is their favorite little thing to beat all the time.
for the record the totality of my of my comments were that if you are going to hire based on race and not merit it begs such lower questions that none of us like and i even continued the sentence to say that's not who i am i don't like it but you can't even you obviously can't say that And we actually never did the forced apology thing. So let me ask you this question, Jack.
Jack, what do we know about this situation? And the president seemed very clear about DEI. We want merit, merit, merit. The press has lost their mind. Jack, what do we know as of this conversation right now?
So as of this conversation right now, and by the way, I'm getting most of this from what's been released publicly. This has nothing to do with anything that I learned while on my trip with the secretary today. But we are hearing some reports that it was in fact, so two pieces, right? One from the one piece of the helicopter and then one piece of the air traffic control.
and I believe it was the New York Times broke the story earlier, and Fox had it as well, that the air traffic control staffing was, quote, not normal for the time of day and the volume of traffic, which I take that to mean that staffing was low compared to the amount of traffic that they had going in, and that it was understaffed and has been understaffed for years, by the way.
There's a similar incident that happened last year about – just under a year ago, I think it was last April, when something like this happened and became a huge viral video. And then with the helicopter itself, there
was reporting that came out that the helicopter was on and another report in front of me right now but there was reporting that came out that said the helicopter itself was on a training flight and the so that it was out of Fort Belvoir which is right there it's the that's huge army base tons of military obviously in the area of Fort Belvoir's in the largest army bases in the area for uh Joint Base Andrews is nearby so this helicopter would have been out of the Blackhawk would have been out of Belvoir
and that the pilot was conducting some training that may have included night vision training. So it was a situation where there was a trainer and there was a pilot, and the trainer was essentially the main conductor of the flight, but it was the trainee who was getting the required flight hours. And so she was...
it's been reported that it's a female co-pilot and that she was training on some night vision night vision nighttime training so there we do know we do have this report here and then i want to play some tape it says initial faa report indicates staffing at air traffic control was not normal now i remember back during our controversy last year of which we are being proven correct
that we said that there were lots of near misses. So I want to play this from the deputy administration, administrator for the FAA in 2023. And then Blake, I want you to walk through how near misses has become a pattern. We've been talking about how at Chicago hair airport, that there's been tons of near misses where there's been whistleblowers about how ATC controllers are not qualified.
Apparently, people who know what they're talking about are saying the ATC did not intervene nearly as aggressively or decisively as they should have when they saw this kind of potential collision popping up. I can't speak to that. I'll be perfectly honest. I don't know what is normal or what is not. Let's play this first, though. Let's play what the FAA has been hiring.
This is the type of talent they have been trying to attract, play cut 180.
Hi, I'm Brad Mims, Deputy Administrator at the Federal Aviation Administration. We are looking for the best and brightest to join us as air traffic controllers. We need a diverse group of air traffic controllers to bring distinct perspectives to handle the ever-changing aerospace landscape.
I'm calling on students and alumni from HBCUs, Hispanic-serving institutions, and tribal colleges to apply now to become air traffic controllers. We need a diverse, next-generation air traffic workforce with people from all backgrounds. Oh, man.
The air traffic controller thing, it's one of those things where once you start describing it, you get weird looks because it so much overwhelms people's understanding of how things should be that they're just like creeped out. They reject the knowledge because this is all true. This goes back to Obama.
The Obama administration, what they did is... We had an old meritocratic system where it was basically you went to an air traffic trainer program that was attached to colleges, and then you passed this test, and then you could become an air traffic controller. And... What they did is they basically said, we're going to massively downplay this skill test of air traffic controller knowledge.
And instead, we're going to adopt this biographical questionnaire is what they called it. And they made this a massive part of hiring. And so biographical questionnaire, it's literally they'd ask you questions about your life to sift your resume. And then what they did is instead of wanting the answers that would indicate capability, I'm not making this up. This is all totally real.
They had it where the answers you wanted to give were basically the ones that would make it more likely you were a diverse candidate as it were. So they would say, how many sports did you play in high school? And if you played a lot of sports in high school, you got a better score on this questionnaire. What does playing sports in high school have to do with being an air traffic controller?
Nothing. But it has a lot to do with hitting diversity quotas. And infamously what they would do is they would ask you what your worst subject in high school was. And if you said science was your worst subject, you got a better score on this quiz. So it would reward you for having science as your worst grade in high school. And it was all bizarre stuff like this.
And there were other crazy things, too. There was an employee at the FAA. I forget his name, so I don't want to go off the top of my head. But an employee at the FAA who was also involved in an affinity group for black aviation employees. He sent out an email that was like, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, everyone.
Here are some buzzwords you should include in your resume to make sure it gets picked out by our automatic sorter. By the way, don't share this with people who aren't minorities or women because we don't want too much competition. I'm not making this up. This all happened 100%. So did this actually cause what happened yesterday? Actually, almost certainly not, is my guess.
It would be very difficult to draw a direct line. But what's so true with Trump all the time is Trump has that power to get at the big picture of what's going on. And what everyone's asking is, okay, why did we suddenly have the worst airplane crash in America in 20 years?
Well, we should at least be talking about the fact that we have had a systematic effort for years under two Democrat presidents and under, frankly, some of it continued under Trump because these are the bureaucrats and they're all left wing. These people have done a systematic effort to downplay merit so that they can just hire people based on bogus BS diversity quota factors.
And then they get mad at us when we say, gee, when you hire people based merely on... skin color and not their ability it makes me nervous to go on a plane and they're like how can you say that how can charlie kirk do that why is he sowing distrust of our of our beautiful planes that are falling out of the sky as we speak oh man how dare you how dare he have has charlie kirk no honor
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And it wasn't just like tampering on the edges. It was like a full – metaphorical, political and cultural execution. Being like, this has no place in society. We need smart people. And by the way, in the very Trumpian way, it was awfully persuasive. He's like, you got 60 planes going and supercomputers. Do we have President Trump from the press conference?
I thought he was awesome on this topic, to be honest with you. And because you could tell President Trump was mad, and he wasn't necessarily mad at any particular person. He was just mad that a system would put up with mediocrity, a system that would allow this to occur, a system that does not have merit. And he almost...
It's kind of like a new CEO or new manager comes into a company and something bad happens like a week and a half onto the job. He's like, no more. This is unacceptable. And we're not going to put up with it. So let me see the clip sheet here. Ryan just said reference the clip sheet. Let me see here. What do we have? Do we have the President Trump? Yeah, we do. Okay. Yeah, this is it.
This is great. Let's play cut 192, please.
Upon entering office, I signed something last week that... was an executive order, a very powerful one, restoring the highest standards of air traffic controllers and others, by the way. Then my administration will set the highest possible bar for aviation safety. We have to have our smartest people. It doesn't matter what they look like, how they speak, who they are.
It matters intellect, talent, the word talent. They have to be talented, naturally talented geniuses. You can't have regular people doing that job. They won't be able to do it. but we'll restore faith in American air travel.
Let's play another here. I think this is Caitlin Collins, Dylan Mulvaney. Is that right? We'll cut 194.
That's why I'm trying to figure out how you can come to the conclusion right now that diversity had something to do with this crash.
Because I have common sense, okay? And unfortunately, a lot of people don't. We want brilliant people doing this. This is a major chess game at the highest level. When you have 60 planes coming in during a short period of time, and they're all coming in different directions, and you're dealing with very high-level computer
uh computer work and very complex computers i love how everyone's speechless too when when when trump talks about this stuff and it's like he goes off script and nobody's really expecting it and he keeps going and going it's like everybody that's there is sitting there and the media is all just frozen because they don't know what to say because if they ask the wrong question they're going to get destroyed
possibly fired if they ask the wrong question and you know bring dishonor to their entire news network and it's just so funny to watch because this is what we were missing for so long was trump's not afraid to talk about it he's gonna go off he could be in the middle of you know you know reading books books to children in an elementary school and then go on like
You know, have his own inner monologue come out about whatever is going on and nobody's ready for it. Nobody can answer it. It's it speaks directly to the American people. And we've missed this for so long.
What's fascinating to me and stands out to me is I think if this were happening in 2017, the lead shrieking hysterics.
all night on every cable channel or at least you know cnn msmc and then the banners on new york times and all that it would be on trump's remarks where they would just be like trump goes on on hinged rant against minorities and jobs or something like that it's much more muted this time like i can go you go to cnn and their angle is just they have both black boxes found yes and then they just have in a smaller article to the left trump jumps right to the blame game over deadly mid-air collision like
That's a pretty muted way of putting it where they're just, they're doing the, Oh, he's, he's going too quickly. It's like the inverted version, you know, and if there's like a tragedy, like a, like a mass shooting where they would say, we can't talk about this. No way. Yeah. But just flipped around now, basically where there's, he's going too quickly.
They're not even really mad about what he said, just that he did it too quickly. And then New York Times, they just have – they're leading with that the control tower was possibly understaffed. And then they just say, fact-checking Trump's plane crash news conference and remarks about DEI. Way more muted. I think –
maybe they're learning a little bit like we've seen that we saw over and over where they would flip out about something trump said and then it would be surprisingly popular i think the best example was when trump did his off-the-cuff thing about kamala where you know she's not really black or whatever and everyone came unglued about that and then there were they found the people like in the barber shops and stuff saying like yeah trump's right she's not and then she was bad at the
So I think they finally realized, wait, if we hyperventilate about this, it will just make more people raise their eyebrow and go, wait, wait, we've been hiring air traffic controllers for diversity reasons? That sounds really bad. Wait a minute. They're learning, finally.
That was also the same issue, if you remember, in the H-1B debate where the more people were talking about it, the more people were actually looking into how the program works. And it really just did not stand up to scrutiny. People were finding all sorts of stuff in there. So, yeah, it's kind of a... It's kind of one of those situations where the more you fight it, the worse it actually gets.
And so the only way to fight it is to sort of like not talk about it or not allow it to be criticized in any way. So that's, of course, what Joy Reid is trying to do. She's trying to say, oh, how dare you? You're talking about diversity. You're talking about women. You're talking about minorities, etc., etc.,
Because that's their only response is to woke scold you into not actually talking about it. But in reality, the more you as Blake, as you say, and, you know, the more you look into it, the worse it gets. I remember, by the way, we were talking about just a couple of weeks ago, what was it? It's only been a month since New Year's Eve.
And we had that the FBI agent with the nose ring, and we were going into Miranda Devine's reporting on the FBI trainees. And I think it was even worse, by the way, than the FAA one, where people were overweight, they couldn't fill out an FD302 form, they didn't have proper grammar, just all these horrible things that were coming through.
But if they were the right gender, the right race, or the right sexual orientation, Chris Wray's FBI was saying like, oh yeah, that person needs to be put through. You're not allowed to fail them because we got to reach our quotas. It's completely insane.
And by the way, the point is, and Charlie, this is what you were getting out a year ago, was this isn't, we're not talking about any of those people. We're talking about a system that is going to get people hurt. It's going to get people killed. It could have gotten 67 people killed last night. And who knows how many more, if that ends up being the case. We want the safest airplanes.
We want the best surgeons. It's as simple as that. It's about keeping people safe and having systems that work properly. We don't want planes crashing or excuse me, trains crashing in East Palestine. We don't want planes crashing into helicopters. All of these things. We want the best of the best.
And that's obviously what you were saying last year, Charlie, what we were saying here on this program. And it's clearly what President Trump is talking about today.
Let's go to cut 211 right now. Vaughn Hilliard, 211, doing more of my press. 211.
I think when we're talking about individuals and allies of Donald Trump, I think that so many of the stories that we are looking at, including this one, come down to who is that nucleus around Donald Trump. And one other name that I would throw out there would be Charlie Kirk.
And the reason I bring up Charlie Kirk is because one year ago, I, along with a few other NBC colleagues, reported a story in which Charlie Kirk, the right-wing provocateur and ally of Donald Trump,
He had put out in the public sphere on a podcast that he was concerned when he got on airplanes when he saw a black pilot because he questioned whether they were hired because of DEI hiring initiatives and not because they were qualified.
And at that time, there were some allies of Donald Trump's, including RNC Chairman Ron McDaniel, who went directly to then candidate Donald Trump with that specific remark. And they wanted to make sure that Donald Trump heard that because they thought that he would not want Charlie Kirk around him because of that.
that suggestion that somehow black camp pilots were not qualified to be flying in America.
And instead, one year later, when I heard those remarks from the White House, it took me back to that story one year ago, because instead of Donald Trump pushing Charlie Kirk away, he fundamentally embraced that very ideology of questioning the aviation industry and the extent to which individuals are in it, whether they be pilots or air traffic controllers or even members of the military, because of DEI hiring initiatives.
All of these things are amazing to me because they're always like they completely get the causality backwards. Guys, our position is we should have the same hiring standard for everyone. And then there will be no doubt about the qualifications of anyone to do any job because they will have passed the qualifications to do it.
You guys are the ones who say, in the name of diversity, in the name of this or that political goal, we should have different standards for different people. And then you have this dumb, surprised look on your face. Oh, people have noticed what's going on. They're just...
You know, they're so dumb, I bet they could pass that fake test that the Obama administration was giving the air traffic controllers. They would be like, yeah, I always found science really hard in school. It had a lot of numbers. It made my head hurt. They should just all go work as Obama air traffic controllers.
I have a lot of thoughts on this, but I'm going to let other people talk. By the way, that was a pretty comprehensive clip by Vaughn as if I'm some sort of like whisper on FAA policy. Like I convened a meeting in the White House. All right, guys, listen to me. We got to talk about pilots. I mean, it's just laughable.
You're not much of a whispering guy, Charlie, except when your voice goes out because you talk at too many campuses.
That happened twice this last semester. It's no joke. I was there. Jack bailed me out. He did, Jack, until Penn State canceled the event. So, yeah, let's go to one of our Rumble partners here. I want to talk about the Rumble Cloud. Are you tired of getting a surprise when you see your cloud services bill every month? Well, our friends at Rumble have done it again.
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All right, how about – do we want to do the Redditors, guys? That's a pretty fun topic. There's so many good stuff.
That's so much good stuff.
Guys, we have to talk about the Reddits. All righty. Okay, so you know what Reddit is, right, Charlie?
I actually – yeah, I mean I want to say I've never used it, but there was a moment when I – there was the R the Donald was unbelievably great. R the Donald was so good they had to – Did I just earn Jack's respect a little bit?
Charlie, that's such a deep pull from the early days of OG 2016 MAGA. I don't remember seeing any of your posts on there, Charlie. Charlie, do you know what a centipede is?
Do you know what a nimble navigator is? It was so complicated. No, no. Meaning like the tech... The technology of Reddit was always so confusing of how to post, how to comment. They were all anons. However, I did have the Reddit app on my phone only for R the Donald because during 2017, 2018, 2019, before it got banned, that was way better than Twitter for processing based flow of information.
So yes, Blake, I do know Reddit. As soon as they got rid of are the Donald, I got rid of Reddit on my phone.
All right.
Well, by the way, it is, um, it's now Patriots dot win for anyone who's looking for it. If you go to Patriots dot win, they've sort of like some quasi recreated are the Donald.
All right, so for those of you who have a life, what Reddit is, Reddit is an online discussion forum, and it has things called subreddits on it that are on an infinite number of topics. So there's ones on the NFL, there's ones on cooking, there's ones on every video game ever made, all that sort of stuff.
But there's one called Fed News, and it's basically news and discussion for people who are employees of the federal government. And if you're not on Reddit, you're blissfully unaware of this, but there's kind of a stereotype of Redditors as a class. Redditors is what they call themselves, people on Reddit, that they're the people who are the most unironic, True believer.
Like the word NPC was created to describe the median Redditor. They get like the latest propaganda narratives downloaded into their brain. They're like very they're always freaking out about everything, like every bad thing that Trump Hitler has done. All of that.
Just every bad stereotype you could think of for them is like a kind of dim, but very earnest liberal would apply to the media and Redditor. And they did things. I remember this is a great one. I'll confess. I would post on the on the subreddit for the NFL. And in 2021, players were getting like we're missing games because they weren't getting vaccinated and they made it. You got banned for life.
From the NFL subreddit, if you questioned the need to mandate the vaccine.
And so I got banned for life because I said I didn't think Kirk Cousins needed to take the vaccine. But wasn't the whole appeal of Reddit that it kind of flirted above 4chan and the more unregulated parts of the internet? Wasn't that the appeal that it almost like semi-dipped into that, but it was kind of like the cross-section? Maybe I'm wrong.
I'll just answer Charlie's question quick. So it was like that. So Reddit was one of those ones. You might remember.
it's so recent really like 15 years ago the left was very radically pro-free speech especially in tech so you had totally unmoderated twitter and you had reddit was in its early days totally it was all user moderated so if you created a subreddit the mods of that subreddit could set whatever rules they wanted and reddit's position was any basically anything goes we you can do your own thing
So there were basically, I'll be blunt, there were, like, hate subreddits. So you would have a subreddit that would, like, literally just have the N-word in it. And that was allowed on Reddit back in the day. And then what killed this, it's extremely funny what killed it. There was an extremely popular subreddit, like, with thousands and thousands of people on it that was called Fat People Hate.
Yeah.
And they would post hatred of fat people and talk about all the fatties that they saw and all the problems they did and just relentless bashing. And this is what broke it because all the hate ones had been like obscure ones that no one was on. But this was one of the most popular pages on the site was bashing fat people. And if you were to look at it today, it would feel so much.
It was like a very early wave of what you'd call like the anti-woke backlash of like, All the fat acceptance stuff, they were just calling that all BS. We can say what's really going on here. All of that. Anyway, people freaked out and it got so bad. They like fired their CEO and brought in a new CEO and she banned fat people hate.
And once they banned that, the dam broke and they started banning all sorts of other stuff. And that kind of it closed the Redditor mind and it just became a much more lib group think site. The other thing that happened is transgender people became the mods of a bunch of subreddits and started policing things.
But we have to – so just in the interest of time, all the insanity of Reddit, what is this Fed News subreddit that has now sort of like really come to massive prominence since Trump took office?
You should definitely follow Fed News. Everyone should follow and comment. You have to comment as well because what Blake is saying is exactly right. Reddit has become like Wikipedia where all the mods are uber, uber, uber lib. So that's why you can get nothing through. People don't realize this. And Reddit, I actually have a theory. Reddit is awful today because remember Twitter in 2010, 2008?
Mm-hmm. twitter in 2008 it was like 90 like 95 lib and i actually think as people have you know gone on twitter and x and it's become more balanced that all those you know liberal s posters are now just exclusively on reddit but anyways going back to this yeah so fed news so yeah that's what it was fed news is the federal workers subreddit and what it's become is we had all those trump
What really happened is Trump issued the executive order that you have to go back to the office. You can't keep doing work from home. And this instantly turned into like they're going full Les Miserables. Do you hear the people saying absolute cataclysmic nuclear meltdown about the prospect of having to go back into the office? And it's become resistance central.
This is the hub for the hashtag resistance at the moment is the federal workers. And they're posting a lot of stuff that is truly profoundly embarrassing. Let me get the from Charlie's one. We we highlighted this where it was someone where they were.
By the way. before we get into into these i'm just going to put out as a disclaimer we don't actually know right whether or not this is true because again it's all anonymous it's all posts so just like anything on reddit it's you you always have to take it with a grain of salt that being said the amount of specificity on these comments and the sheer
This existed for years and years, and some of these users have been posting like this long before President Trump returned to office. So that's what gives it a level of credibility beyond just, say, going on 4chan where anyone can post anything.
So this was one of the ones we highlighted. This was one of the top posts about a week ago or so where this person was reacting to the return to work order. And so they say, and you have to read this in a monkey voice, boycott using local businesses around work site if forced back to office.
For those that end up being forced back to their respective offices, I would avoid patronizing the local businesses in those areas. Bring your own lunch to avoid using the eateries and grocery stores. Avoid parking in pay parking and don't buy anything at the shops or gas stations, which I think perfectly gets into the Redditor mind.
Like these people are extremely angry at the idea of having to work. But naturally, the way they express this is like channel their rage into attacking ordinary people who have real jobs they have to go to during the day. Like, screw you. I'm not going to go eat at a restaurant. How dare you? How dare you make me leave my house?
Because productivity has completely crashed through the bottom down into the basement ever since we got permanent COVID mode five years ago, four years ago. These people are unbelievable. And there's all these threads like this. And apparently, the top thread of the past week is, my supervisor told us to stop posting on Reddit.
Which, if you check the data, by the way, the busiest hours for Fed News is the eight hours of the American weekday workday. They're all on Reddit while at their job. Which is... I will say I found that while on Reddit at my job, but I've always had a job where I'm allowed to be on Reddit.
So I get away with this is pure comedy. And I was I was telling the group like I actually have a favorite podcast. I listen to and they do the subreddit stakeout. So what they do is during sports games, they read the opposing team's subreddit and then they make fun of them like crying and moaning. We should just go through some of these real quickly like that. They're throw these up.
Some of these are hilarious. I guess we could just start with 203 or wherever it starts here. Oh, we got 202 where Blake just said, stop posting on Reddit. If you go on here, you can just start reading and do it with a voice. But let's go to 203 real quick. We can throw it up. Some of these are hilarious. They're focusing on the wrong thing.
The federal government has been significantly more efficient over the past 60 years.
Ooh, super efficient.
204.
This non-buyout seems to really have backfired. I'll be honest, before that email went out, I was looking for any way to get out of this fresh hell, but now I'm fired up to make these goons as fresh as possible. RTO be damned. Hold the line. Oh, no. The line. Oh, no.
Yeah.
Now they're threatening to actually work.
They're so bad. They're going to work to show us how dumb we are. I think this is my favorite. This is my favorite to my fellow feds, especially veterans. We are at war. We watched this goon try to overthrow the government on live TV four years ago. Now, we are witnessing him try to overthrow it from within. We are the last line of defense against...
fascism if we leave we will be replaced by loyalists read projects 2025 and for the love of god please believe what is written because that is what is happening all the eos are directly from that document i didn't dedicate years of my life serving this country to be bullied into quitting my career by a bunch of fascists
We are being led by the same types of people our grandparents fought against in World War II, which guarantee this person thinks that his grandparents are, like, racist and should, like, have been invited to Thanksgiving near the end of their lives every frickin' time.
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I've got a friend who has a sort of like liberal side of the family, but he was I'm just going to leave it at this. And he was telling me some of the stuff that they were saying to him recently just about how they all actually believe that like the. The authoritarian fascist government has taken over. They're in full force and it's their job to be the resistance.
He said they were like sending messages of encouragement to each other just randomly. It's going to be okay. We'll get through this. We will fight, and history will learn that we stood in the breach against the takeover. Like, libs are not doing very well.
And here's the thing is, and, you know, Tyler, you had that one that you were showing me the other day of talking about, I'm not an activist, but... You know, and was that the one with the poem? I think that was the one with the poem, actually. And it's, no, they're all activists.
And I say this as a guy who's a former federal employee, a member of the intelligence community, and they're all like this. They're all, especially in D.C., especially in D.C., they're like this. Oh, yeah, here's the one. I'm not a politician. I'm not an activist. I'm just someone trying to make sense of this betrayal. And the only way I could deal with it was to write. This poem came out of that.
A raw, unfiltered reflection of how angry and heartbroken of how I feel. Here's the thing. I need to know if this resonates with anyone else. Does it make sense to you? Does it feel like it matters? Or am I screaming into the void? Here's the poem. Guys, should I read the poem? Yes, please read it. Do we do the poem?
Please.
Oh, man. You stood beneath a stolen flag, a coward's grin behind your mask, breaking glass like you broke your oath, spilling blood, spilling truth, spilling both. The Capitol stood like a sentinel of time until you tore it down. Crime by effing crime. The floors ran red where history walked and democracy bled as your chance mocked. I think this is actually just Joy Reid probably writing this.
It's not exactly Macaulay, I've got to say.
Yeah, no, no, no. It's not even James Joyce. Oh, man.
214.
Walt Whitman is turning in his grave right now. You are the ghost of the dying nation. Mute accomplices to its damnation.
so bad but this is what this is what they do it reminds me of all those stupid poems and songs this is actually worse than chat gpt like if chat gpt made this it would probably be better oh no this wasn't chat gpt this is those same guys that were singing songs to dr fauci in the middle of covid saying we love you dr fauci like it just it's the same yeah it's the same guys 214 and this is how you know and you gotta you gotta read the names of the handles
214 if we haven't pulled up I think this is the right one that we put in the chat yeah gay and confused we're a federal employee gay and confused yeah I mean you're gonna have to narrow it down Tyler you're gonna have to narrow it down no I mean I mean it's very descriptive of gay and confused the federal employee the only way to defeat fascism is to work against it from the inside
Again, the age old, you know, fascism is is shrinking government concept here. This is a man.
This is so he's confused. So he's going to fight against it from the inside. Are we the baddies?
Yeah, but that's what you're going to have. Like, this is what you're going to have. This was Vindman.
Don't go there, Blake.
This was Ciaramella. This was all the people, right, all the people who don't leave or don't accept this buyout or do something else. They're going to be sitting there thinking, how can I undermine this? Like, they literally think they're fighting against, you know, Mussolini. Yes. And we've got to stop them.
I'll tell you that.
It's all going to happen. Let me tell you one thing.
one thing that they are underestimating and i've had a chance to meet with them the intensity of the doge people is really remarkable understand it's not just elon elon has brought in this like platoon of lieutenants that are i mean you you don't want to mess with these guys and they have done turnarounds they've come like elon has used them replicated over in companies before
And I'll tell you, there is a sequence to how they've planned this out. And I guarantee you that some of these people that are posting this stuff on Reddit, they could be found out of who they are. Insubordination will not be tolerated. Saying you're not going to follow a president's orders is against the law and certainly against your contractual agreement.
And so, yeah, they can yammer all they want. I think a lot of this is performative, but do not underestimate Elon and the Doge team. Be able to find these people, root them out, and hopefully be able to shrink the size of government. And this also begs this other question. It drives me nuts. And I wish I was able to do this more on the mainstream networks.
But we keep on falling into this trap that the bureaucracy and the Department of Justice and the CIA is independent. This is a bunch of crap. It is under Article 2. There is not a fourth branch of government. It is under the sole discretion of the President of the United States.
You hear these hearings, well, you know, Kash Patel's nomination might interfere with the interference of the FBI, the independence of the FBI. The FBI is not independent. First of all, it was never chartered by Congress. It was an act by the President. So it is a mythology. It is an administrative state modern fiction.
that we must live under this idea that all of these bureaucracies are like a super government over the executive branch and like the president can offer suggestions. And I think it's time for us to be an article two absolutist. It's either the, and by the way, just so we're clear, they do believe the bureaucracies are,
operate under a Democrat president, but when it's a Republican president, it's like the total independence, you can't do anything. And so I think it's really important we reclaim the language on this. And these federal workers, they don't call the shots.
And there's also this final point where we live under this legislative Article I supremacy, where, for example, there was this Senate confirmation question, and they're asking somebody about the Impoundment Act. I don't know who they were asking. It was asking Bobby Kennedy about it. They said, well, do you think that the executive branch is able to not spend money that Congress sends?
And the answer is, of course, meaning that the tension between the branches is actually what the founders wanted. There is not a hierarchy where the legislative branch is superior to the executive or the Supreme court. They are co equal branches and restraining and reigning in the federal bureaucracy is one of the most important things that we can do to restore the founders intent of article two.
Yeah, totally. And there's one, let's see. What's our last topic? Oh, we'll get to the last one. All right. Let's go. We got to play. I think we just got to jump straight into it. So. All right. So, Charlie, this is this is a film clip. It's been nominated for, I think, 13 Oscars. We're going to give you that that prelude.
The clip you're about to see is from a movie that has been nominated for 13 Oscars, which I think is one short of the record. I think the record is 14 Oscars. Some of the most it's ever been. We're going to see how many it's going to win. But this is already one of the most honored films in history. And it contains this scene. Do we have it ready to go? All right. Play it.
Nice to meet you. I'd like to know about sex change operations. I see, I see, I see. Men to women. A woman to men. Man to woman. From penis to vagina. Would you like to know about it, madam? I want to know it all. Control laryngoplasty. What is that? Adam's out for reduction. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Did a federal employee write this?
Speaking of federal employees. At work. While they're at work. This is, I think, a French director. The movie is Amelia Perez. The plot of it is that a fictional Mexican drug cartel warlord gets a sex change operation, becomes a woman illegally. And then like gets involved. And like, I guess as part of becoming a woman realizes that being a murderous drug lord is bad or something like that.
But one of the best things about it is there's two amazing things. One, Selena Gomez is in the movie.
No wonder why she got so vocal.
She was crying. But the best part is this is a great aspect of it. So Selena Gomez is from America. She was born in America. And she actually can't speak Spanish, which I personally find kind of inspiring. Like I... I like that. I like it when they don't know it because that means they have assimilated. They have become American. That is good. I don't know how to speak German.
That's all gibberish to me because I'm American. I speak American. And Selena Gomez is American. She speaks American. Anyway, she's in this movie, but...
they have her speak Spanish in it and because she's not fluent in Spanish she speaks incorrect Spanish so Mexicans have seen this movie and they've commented they're like I did not like how Selena Gomez she she did not use correct Spanish it's not grammatical Spanish in Mexico So one, that's great.
Two, right now, Mexico's federal government, the Mexican Federal Consumer Protection Agency, is investigating because so many Mexicans saw this movie and they filed complaints against a theater chain, Sinopolis, because Sinopolis has like a quality guarantee and people are calling their bluff and saying they want refunds after seeing this movie.
And meanwhile, the Academy has nominated it for 13 Academy Awards. And I think it's a perfect sign of how quickly things change because what are we getting now? What we are getting in theaters right now are the movies they greenlit for production in 2020 and 2021. They're like, all right. Floyd happened. Biden won. Trump is gone. Peak woke forever. Long live the revolution. All right.
Start making the weird movie about the transgender drug lord. And they're like, great, let's go. And they made the movie and it came out. And they're like, Hollywood's like, oh. This is the greatest movie ever made. It's going to completely change the culture. And then, you know, events have passed them by a little bit.
But we'll always have the musical number where they sing asking them to recite all the different sex change operation things. We didn't even have it in the clip we showed. But there's a part where they're literally going back and forth where they're like... Vaginoplasty, yes. Penoplasty, yes.
Rhinoplasty, yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
So is this – it's not like a mockery? I mean I was looking at this trailer. Are they – it's not a parody is what I'm getting at.
It's not, but there's a good rule of thumb that like –
you know a sufficiently good pair like a sufficiently authentic portrayal of lunatics is indistinguishable from parodies like the the right-wing parody version of this would not have been as extreme and it would not have been as funny so hollywood's really done us a big solid on this one they they always make themselves look more ridiculous they wonder why they lost the election they wonder why they wonder why they lost the election
I mean, this has Zoe Saldana in it.
Are you going to go see it now? No.
Do you want to go see it with me, Tyler? I think that would be pretty fun. Well, something doesn't end up.
They say the budget was only $25 million. There's no way they have all these A-list actresses and actors.
It's a musical. I mean, they'll sign up. Actors will sign up for prestige projects. They're like, this is the big thing. It's going to win every Oscar.
It turns out it costs very little just to sing about penises being transformed into vaginas.
that's true it's all right we'll play 218 and then we're gonna we're gonna call the show a wrap let's play cut 218 for me what would you like to know about it i want to know it all what is the protocol the techniques and the risks how many operations how much time do What is that? Adam's apple reduction. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Oh, my gosh.
Charlie, Charlie, you've got to say what you just messaged to us.
I'm going to play this in churches. Like, when I go speak at a church, I'm going to, like, play this in a church and say, like, you have a moral obligation to vote for Republicans for the rest of your life because of this video. Like, they're going to come after your children. They're going to come after your dog. They're going to come after everybody. It speaks for itself.
I've maintained that Lord of the Rings was the gayest movie ever in all history. This takes the cake.
Wait, what? How is the Lord of the Rings movie? What are you talking about? Wait, this is like Lord of the Rings. There's some pretty gay movies out there. The fight has started. You have begun the war, Tyler. I will finish this war. Explain yourself.
You have to prove this point. There's the full clip. Sam and Frodo are so gay together. If you replaced it with a female, they'd be in love with each other.
Yeah, but they didn't, and they're not. So it's not gay.
You can't sit through 15 hours of those movies and not be like, I think that's where America turned severely more gay was after The Lord of the Rings came out.
No, you are high. You are on drugs. Tyler, you are out of control. This is unacceptable.
I'm saying this takes it. This beats it, okay?
That's good, but no. What? Tyler, you have made a powerful enemy today.
Listen, it all started with Glee and Frozen, okay? It was Glee and Frozen. We've talked about this so many times that it's Glee. I know, 100%. That was the original cultural sin of modernity, okay?
Glee ruined America. Glee was the plagueship of woke Glee all the time.
I have no opinion on Glee because I never watched Glee. I was watching. We've covered it on the program.
It was, it was, well, and Charlie, you pointed it out first that it was actually, it was the high school musical that kind of started.
Oh, and I have a whole thing on Zac Efron, the whole thing.
And then Glee took that and made it woke.
Hold on. Now the people in the chat are saying they agree with Lord of the Rings being gay. I'm going to go to war against the chat.
The chat says... I could not be in more agreement with Blake. I think Lord of the Rings is one of the greatest artistic accomplishments of the species.
Yeah, it's great. Okay, it's called male friendship, and it's a thing that existed long before...
like i never even thought of that until tyler just said it and i it's just if you go back and watch it now you're gonna be like grossed out by the entire thing no i actually watched it no it's not i read the books for the first time this year so i actually re-watched it and like no it's it's not gay i reject your interpretation i won the whole chat over the entire chat no it's not true no chat we are we're going to have a stern talking to with the chat they are going to get on side lord of the rings is straight and they're
Lord of the Rings is not a game.
Sorry, it's just not.
I think... It's really not. I don't share that. Okay, so thank you guys. That was like a nuclear bomb thought crime, for the record. I'm still processing that. That's like pilot-level thought crime. Just drop the freaking... thermonuclear weapon in the middle. We have to defend Lord of the Rings properly.
Yeah!
So next week, straight as an arrow, straight edge. Not like a $3 bill. We'll see you guys next week. Keep committing thought crimes. Thought crime is death. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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