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No, no.

I think the statistics suggested 53 auctions were called in Tasmania last year.

And if you're doing that as a full-time job, not enough to produce an income to support yourself, really.

So I made the big move to the big smoke up in Victoria and Melbourne.

Absolutely.

I think taking it back to when I was a teenager and even before that, I used to do busking a little bit embarrassingly as a magician on the streets at our Salamanca markets.

And then throughout college, a long history of theatre and performing arts.

So it's the perfect marriage of real estate,

performing arts really.

So, that's what started my obsession with it.

There was a number of people that pointed me in the right direction in Tasmania.

But as far as good coaches, they were really all came out of the interstate and from New Zealand as well.

The Human Calculator, it's a name that's been passed on from a number of people.

Originally, my first auction coach, which was Harry Lee, he won the competition back in 2015.

He was known as the Human Calculator.

And then his prodigy, Luke Beniziosis, who won the competition last year, was the Human Calculator.

And now that's been passed on to Greg Brydon, who is my training partner up here in Victoria.