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The Best One Yet

🐳 ā€œPreppy Billionsā€ — Vineyard Vines’ revival. Trump’s Mega-Monday. Dunkin’s JetBlue airplane.

Tue, 13 May 2025

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TBOY Live Show Tickets to Chicago on sale NOW: https://www.axs.com/events/949346/the-best-one-yet-podcast-ticketsStocks surged 3% on a Mega Monday of Trump news… Airplanes, tariff pauses, prescriptions, & parties.Vineyard Vines passed $500M in revenue… because ā€œmen stick to the fit, women chase the hit.ā€Dunkin Donuts got a JetBlue Airplane… it’s a flying billboard from Boston’s hometown heros.Plus, is the next surprise Recession Indicator actually… Katy Perry?$JBLU $SPY $RLAbout Us: The daily pop-biz news show making today’s top stories your business. Formerly known as Robinhood Snacks, TBOY Lite is hosted by Jack Crivici-Kramer & Nick Martell.GET ON THE POD: Submit a shoutout or fact: https://tboypod.com/shoutouts NEWSLETTER:https://tboypod.com/newsletter SOCIALS:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tboypod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tboypodYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@tboypod Anything else: https://tboypod.com/ Our 2nd show… The Best Idea Yet: Wondery.fm/TheBestIdeaYetLinksEpisodes drop weekly.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Chapter 1: What was Mega Monday and its significance?

25.732 - 44.58 Nick

Toy stocks are surging. Honestly, you could get more than two dolls this Christmas. I know. It's a major reset in the trade war. And the reason... is the first of our three stories. Jack, what are today's three stories for the T-boy? For our first story, it's Mega Monday. Starting at 3 a.m. on Monday, we got a barrage of business headlines from the White House.

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And Jack and I will explain all of it using planes, prescriptions, and parties. For our second story, your preppy college formal is calling because Vineyard Vines just got its co-founders back. Their first move back at the helm, Vineyard Vines Vacation Resorts, man. I'm interested. And our third and final story, Dunkin' Donuts has its own JetBlue airplane. That's right. Darlene is flying direct.

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69.954 - 91.826 Nick

Dunkin's JetBlue airplane is the perfect example of the hometown special. But yetis, before we hit that wonderful mix of stories... What a mix of stories. No one else is doing that mix today, Jack. Love the mix. For the past few months, we've been tracking some recession indicators for you. Yeah, recession indicators like Botox, hair dye, frozen pizza, men's boxers, men's briefs, men's panties.

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93.787 - 118.404 Nick

No, we're not tracking that. But the wildest alternative indicator of a recession? It's Katy Perry. Baby, you're a firework. Yeah, that Katy Perry. Because when was Katy Perry's first concert tour ever, Nick? Jack, that would be the Hello Katy tour back in 2009. And right after tickets went on sale in the fall of 2008, we got a financial crisis and a great recession began.

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118.524 - 141.688 Nick

Yeah, in fact, between her tickets going on sale and Katy Perry's first concert, stocks dropped 30%. Fast forward to today, and Katy Perry just had her biggest month since then. Katy Perry just flew to space. Katy Perry just released a new album. And this month, uh-oh, Katy Perry started a concert tour. That's right. The ticket drop actually lines up exactly with the beginning of the trade war.

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The day she launched tickets, stock markets plummeted. Katy, are you telling my phone one time? It's like Katy Perry's teenage dream was an economic drop. Baby, you're a firework because you make the stock market blow up. But yet it's not just Katy Perry going on tour that reminds us of 2008. Lady Gaga just played Coachella. And Miley Cyrus just dropped an album too. Remember Usher?

164.715 - 179.664 Nick

He released Love in This Club back in 2008. And he's back. He did the Super Bowl halftime show last year. So besties, add it all up. And Katy Perry once said, you're going But earmuffs, if there's any stockbrokers listening. Honey, you're going to have to turn down the Katy Perry.

180.837 - 205.78 Jack

portfolio needs it jack let's hit our three stories 15 years before this song two boys from the northeast met in the dorm they had an idea to cause a cultural storm it's the best one yet but the best is the norm jack nick that's it i don't even think they need to practice 50 that's a fat tip t-boy city on your at list if you know you know because we're ready to go we can't wait no more so just start the show

212.648 - 234.578 Monica Lewinsky

I would define reclaiming as to take back what was yours. Something you possess is lost or stolen, and ultimately you triumph in finding it again. Listen to Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky wherever you get your podcasts.

Chapter 2: How is Vineyard Vines reviving its brand?

Chapter 3: What are the details of Dunkin's JetBlue airplane?

Chapter 4: How is Katy Perry an indicator of economic trends?

141.748 - 164.595 Nick

The day she launched tickets, stock markets plummeted. Katy, are you telling my phone one time? It's like Katy Perry's teenage dream was an economic drop. Baby, you're a firework because you make the stock market blow up. But yet it's not just Katy Perry going on tour that reminds us of 2008. Lady Gaga just played Coachella. And Miley Cyrus just dropped an album too. Remember Usher?

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164.715 - 179.664 Nick

He released Love in This Club back in 2008. And he's back. He did the Super Bowl halftime show last year. So besties, add it all up. And Katy Perry once said, you're going But earmuffs, if there's any stockbrokers listening. Honey, you're going to have to turn down the Katy Perry.

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180.837 - 205.78 Jack

portfolio needs it jack let's hit our three stories 15 years before this song two boys from the northeast met in the dorm they had an idea to cause a cultural storm it's the best one yet but the best is the norm jack nick that's it i don't even think they need to practice 50 that's a fat tip t-boy city on your at list if you know you know because we're ready to go we can't wait no more so just start the show

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212.648 - 234.578 Monica Lewinsky

I would define reclaiming as to take back what was yours. Something you possess is lost or stolen, and ultimately you triumph in finding it again. Listen to Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky wherever you get your podcasts.

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237.717 - 263.306 Nick

For our first story, yesterday was Mega Monday. Here, Yetis, is your synopsis about President Trump's last 24 hours that definitely moved your portfolio. Planes, prescriptions, tariff pauses, and Middle East parties. Here's what you need to know about all of them in five minutes. Now, besties, this story really begins yesterday at 3 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. Jack, what happened then?

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At that time on Monday, very early morning, the Treasury Secretary, Scott Besson, announced a 90-day trade war ceasefire with China. All right, ceasefire. I like those two words. Jack, could you sprinkle on more context, please? Tariffs between the U.S. and China were so high going into it that we had an effective trade embargo for a full month. Like, no joke.

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Ships stopped coming across the ocean to the U.S. from China. They were just in port, not going anywhere. But that... because the US is dropping tariffs on China-made goods to 30%, and China is dropping tariffs on US-made goods to 10%. Add it all up, and this is being described as a total reset for these epic trade talks.

304.499 - 322.951 Nick

From 145% to 30%, huge de-escalation between the world's two biggest economies. Now, Eddie's Jack and I jumped in T-Boys style, and we believe this tells us two big things. First, it tells us that the U.S. and China are talking again. Both sides are seeking a deal. Both sides are working to come to an agreement.

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Second, it tells us that Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, not Donald Trump, appears to be leading those trade talks. And Wall Street seems to be thrilled by that development. Now, Yetis, we should point out that the U.S. hasn't won concessions yet from Beijing. But stocks rose 3.3% yesterday on hopes that our Treasury Secretary can lead us to a more fair status quo with the Chinese.

Chapter 5: What does the return of co-founders mean for Vineyard Vines?

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These two CE bros, we can actually call them that because they're brothers, they noticed that all the ties in the financing were the same color, same patterns, and same conservative look overall. So Vineyard Vines was the first to introduce pink or hot dogs or flamingo designs on the ties. Basically, any symbol that represents not being at work, that might be on a tie from Vineyard Vines.

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642.161 - 660.625 Nick

The key was the lack of symmetry. These were asymmetrical designs. And today, they bring in $500 million a year in clothing sales, and they're probably valued over a billion dollars, although we don't know for sure because it's private. I add it all up. Vineyard Vines, they are a unicorn whale. Their logo is a pink whale. But here's the news.

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660.785 - 682.727 Nick

After stepping down a few years ago, the bros are back, baby. Those two founding brothers are returning as co-CEOs. Shep and Ian are boomerang CEOs at Vineyard Vines. Yeah, boomerang CEOs. Just like Whitney Wolf Hurd at Bumble and Bob Iger at Disney. Boomerang CEOs, they returned back to the company. But here's what Jack and I found fascinating about this story. Vineyard Vines is 27 years old.

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Yeah. Which is past middle age when it comes to the fashion industry. And yet, Vineyard Vines' business is wildly stable and consistent. First of all, those two founders still own 100% of the business. They didn't sell a single thread to private equity. Or Jack, how about their store growth? That's been consistent. Five stores a year, and they're now up to 126 of them.

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701.846 - 724.326 Nick

$500 million a year in revenue is impressive, by the way. It is, so let's bring on some context. That's twice as much as Allbirds, it's the same as Stitch Fix, and it's half as much as Skims. Now, besties, the reason Jack and I think Vineyard Vines is such a consistent business... is because of males. Men, men, males, dudes, guys. Men literally shop differently than women, according to the CEO.

724.446 - 742.623 Nick

You see, men buy and commit to a brand that works for them for years. Women tend to switch it up. Yeah, what we're saying is that men stick to the fit, women chase the hit. And nearly 70% of Vineyard Vine customers are men. So basically, your boyfriend finds Vineyard Vine khakis that fit well, and then he wears them for the next two decades.

742.663 - 761.75 Nick

Yeah, Jack, Molly's been trying to find like a fleece for San Francisco weather for like six years. It's like her Eldorado. We've got like a fleece graveyard in the closet of every fleece she's tried. Meanwhile, you have your outdoor voices pull over that you've had for like 15 years. Still loyal. Still loyal. But here's our big question. Is Vineyard Vines too stable? Yeah.

762.03 - 784.957 Nick

Has it missed out on growth opportunities by not expanding more? Jack and I think we've got the answer and it's our takeaway. So Jack, what's the takeaway for our buddies over at Vineyard Vines? There's a life cycle of lifestyle brands. Yeti's spoiler. On our weekly show, The Best Idea Yet, Jack and I are going to publish an episode next month on Tommy Bahama.

785.097 - 803.512 Nick

And Sir Bahama is the perfect case study in the evolution of a lifestyle brand. Because Tommy Bahama started with clothing, but then expanded to restaurants, and then furniture, and then hotels and resorts. It was able to expand to all those verticals because Tommy Bahama is a lifestyle brand. Right. The lifestyle is vacation by the beach.

Chapter 6: Why do men stick to brands differently than women?

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and the 2019 movie adaptation of Cats.

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874.67 - 879.971 Misha Brown

Like, if I'm watching the dancing and I'm noticing the feet aren't touching the ground, there's something wrong with the movie.

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880.251 - 897.136 Nick

Find out what happens when massive hype turns into major fiasco. Enjoy The Big Flop on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to The Big Flop early and ad-free on Wondery+. Get started with your free trial at wondery.com slash plus.

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For our third and final story, Dunkin' Donuts. Their brand has taken over an entire JetBlue airplane. This is a flying billboard. Because the most overlooked strategy in collaborations is the hometown hookup. Oh, Yetis, pour out your Diet Coke in a plastic cup for JetBlue. It's been hard for JetBlue lately, right, Jack?

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Their merger with Spirit Airlines got blocked, they missed out on the post-pandemic international travel craze, and their stock is down 95% from their all-time high. That's right, JetBlue stock is trading at $4 a share, so JetBlue is trying to turn around their life the same way we humans do. Reach for a cup of coffee. Here's the news. JetBlue has turned an entire airplane into a Dunkin' ad.

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I wish you could see a picture of this, but it's an entire Airbus A320 airplane painted with Dunkin' Donuts branding. 100% Dunkin' branding. Like JetBlue, they're not getting a government bailout right now. Instead- They're getting a Duncan cold brew, apparently. Now, we should point out JetBlue has a tradition of promoting causes by painting one of their airplanes with branding of that cause.

972.122 - 995.318 Nick

They've done NYPD branding, Boston Bruins branding, the nation of Puerto Rico. Each of those got a JetBlue airplane at some point. But now JetBlue is going full corporate billboard. It appears Duncan's paying for this. It's even going to name the plane Brewing Altitude, like a Duncan ad. I think the FAA flight control center is calling it brewing altitude, is approaching runway AB. Yeah.

995.659 - 1016.928 Nick

This is an Airbus A320 airplane with zero blue on it. It is just orange, pink, and brown with a huge donut on the tail. Seriously. Yeah. Now, the key here is that Dunkin' Donuts is based in Boston, and JetBlue is the biggest airline carrier in Boston. So, add it all up, and this is basically an all-New England deal. Ben Affleck's not flying private anymore when he hears about this. One sec.

1016.988 - 1040.32 Nick

Hey, Darlene, where are we flying? At an iced Coolada 30,000 feet, son. That's pretty good. You clearly married someone from Boston. I stuck the land in on that. But yet, here's what Jack and I find fascinating. As we have told you before, where there are eyeballs, there will be ads. Last year, we told you that United Airlines was pioneering targeted ads on their airplanes. That's right.

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