Charlie, Jack, Blake, and Tyler respond to the massive debate about H-1B visas on X between Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, and the masses of X, then discuss the surprising importance of Saved by the Bell to modern American culture and politics. Plus, Tyler and Charlie discuss the college football playoffs.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
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Am I right that I guess the state, right?
Yeah, you are right, Charlie. We are in we are in furthest South Dakota and no one will find me from there because it's a big state with very few people. Did you see the sun today? Maybe.
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Chapter 2: What are the implications of the H-1B visa debate?
In Dallas, in Jerry Stadium, which I will go to.
90%.
And if they are lucky enough to win that game, they go to Atlanta to likely play Georgia in Atlanta. In Atlanta. This is what the number one seed gets you. Does anyone else think this is pathologically insane?
Well, this is why with NIL and with the new playoff, you actually are at a disadvantage now being a team. You used to be at an advantage being a team like Oregon in a small town like Eugene because you dominated. You didn't have competition. So you just got all the money. Now with NIL, now it's shifted.
So not only are you having to compete in a small town with big town people with big town donors, but then you have big town fans that show up to these big town games. You you're never going to have a game in or in Portland. You're never going to have a game in Seattle like Oregon.
That's a really smart point. So as far as a fan base, you're cooked. You're by the way, long term. Who's in the Fiesta Bowl this year? Oh, it's Penn State, Boise State, Penn State, Boise. I was I was ticked off that ASU didn't get slotted in the Fiesta Bowl.
Well, think about how great that would have been for us.
I mean, it would have been unavoidable.
It would have been us versus Penn State.
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Chapter 3: How did Saved by the Bell influence American culture?
Tyler's right on the... I'm on the bubble. I'm younger than Jack.
This is not some sort of trick. I'm just saying I'm 31. So the Saved by the Bell thing... You missed it. You guys were kind of teasing me. It legitimately wasn't my thing, so I need you to educate me on it. But let me just first just say... Teen comedy. No, no, it's great. No, I'm not even criticizing because we had our own stuff. We had Full House, right?
We had, I don't know if Full House was as much in your guys' demo, but we had Full House, we had Even Stevens, right? We had That's So Raven. Even Stevens is you. Yeah, so that was my strike zone. Beans. But what I think Vivek was trying to say, which if I was advising him, I would have not sent that tweet.
And Jack, this is where I want you to go into explaining Saved by the Bell, is that it could be read, and I don't think he meant it this way, as he was crapping on people's beloved culture and country, especially the Gen X generation that wants America to get back to that reference point. Is that fair to say, Jack? Because the Gen X kind of the roar was the undercurrent of MAGA.
Gen X was the most pro-MAGA demographic this election cycle. And they look at that America's like, no, that's actually what we want to get back to. Don't crap on that. Jack, respond to that and also explain what is saved by the bell and the cultural significance.
Yeah, you know, you're generally accurate. So I think Vivek, JD and myself are all pretty much like within a couple of months of each other. So this is actually that really sweet spot of like late 80s, early 90s. So it's technically like most Gen Xers probably didn't watch Saved by the Bell because it would have been considered too young for them. but also older than yourself.
And it really is that sweet spot. I call it centennials. I'm not gonna go down that rabbit hole, but essentially what you're saying, Charlie, is correct, is that it is not just the, and by the way, Mario Lopez, of course, is still pretty much a mainstay of daytime TV. Somehow he still looks the exact same age. We all gotta find his doctor, right? And there is an aesthetic element here as well,
because this is, it's not quite So Gen X would be more like John Hughes, which is something that got referenced earlier on War Room Today by Gavin Wax. And by the way, John Hughes movies from the 16 Candles, Breakfast Club, Home Alone, these are all movies that myself, guys like Still Boneless and others were making memes of in 2024 to describe the America that we were trying to return to.
And so Saved by the Bell, yeah, it definitely kind of fits in that canon because it's America before it became whatever we are now. And so attacking this, not only did it shift the, I think, the current of the argument, but it just really hit on a nerve for a lot of people who are like, wait a minute, this was a beloved TV show.
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Chapter 4: What are the criticisms of modern American culture?
No, no, no. Blake knows I introduced him as the smartest person I know. He went to Dartmouth. No, no, seriously. But what do you make of this? Because you err on the side that the spelling bee champion should get Pamela Anderson. Where do you stay on this whole conversation?
It definitely is. So first of all, I have to say I can't say too much about Saved by the Bell. I'm in that perfect age range where I remember Saved by the Bell as it aired after Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, which is what I was watching when I was four years old, of course.
Wait, you saw Saved by the Bell, the new class. That's a totally different thing.
no the new class is totally it did also have screech though yeah it did but you're talking about something totally different or something sorry anyway you know i i guess i don't remember i just remember the voice that was like saved by the bell and i can't remember how it went but it went like that no you want us to sing you the whole entire theme song like we jack and i can no no i don't i've never tried to sing up my head all right when you wake up in the morning and you
No, but culturally, I guess I think what really stood out, the reason that this went and it got we're currently at 73 million views on this tweet from the vague. I think what stood out to people is it wasn't just it was the fact that it was so locked into this 90s cultural thing. And I think what people pick up from it, it was almost this sense of.
Honestly, the word that comes to mind is resentment that. there are people who are essentially, they're like angry that they weren't more popular in high school or something. And it's America's job writ large to be punished for this. And also this tone of like, You watched Saved by the Bell or your parents watched Saved by the Bell 30 years ago.
And as a result, America needs to have more H-1B workers who will fill this or that job. And if you pause and think about that, that is completely insane and doesn't make any sense. But it's a type that you run into. You can see accounts like this, like where people will just overtly say, basically, we need to have more immigration because I am bitter and resentful towards you.
There was this book that got profiled a few years ago in NPR. It was called This Land is Our Land. an immigrants manifesto. And the author was an NYU journalism professor named Suketu Mehta. And he basically said, we need lots of immigration to America because the British colonized India. And basically like, I'm angry about that. And this is a form of reparations.
If you scratch at it, you can very easily run into this almost resentful attitude at ordinary Americans. And I think that is really what set people off with what they was saying. It's that you could pick up this thing of like, yeah, like basically why didn't we, you know, venerate people like me more when I was in high school. And that's a problem.
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Chapter 5: Why is the college football playoff system controversial?
is a program that a lot of these tech firms really do rely on because it brings in the cheap labor well and charlie and another thing and i'll just say this while on this on this topic hold it just for just one second like here in arizona we have a company i'm not gonna say the company's name it's a big company that brings in a lot of i know but i'm not gonna say it yeah i just don't want to get in trouble i'm like i have to deal with people but like entertainment
but there's a company that has basically run rough shot over this is part of the reason why arizona is in the place where it's in today and and that's not because the foreigners that are voting in our elections although it is very clear that some municipalities are allowing foreigners to vote in our elections but they have completely dismantled the culture of this given big city large city in arizona
Because they've brought in a ton of families. And this goes back to the cultural elements of it. So we no longer have, for example, there's unsustainable little league teams in certain areas because this culture has now invaded these neighborhoods, right?
So you're talking about actual, you now have schools that are completely turned upside down because it changes the dynamics of the entire neighborhood and area. You now have different stores and shops. I'm not going to say anything. That go into different – and again, I'm not saying that there's not big cities.
Arizona, Phoenix is a big city, so you're going to have different cultural pockets for sure. But we're talking about one entity, one corporation that's a big multinational corporation has completely turned – upside down the culture of this one city in basically the span of a decade. And this impacts politics. So now the politics of the entire city are different because people don't have homes.
So now it's less conservative. You now have other companies that have come in, like 10 or 15 other companies that go back to Jack's point here with H-1B visas where they're flooding Jobs that are mid tier to really, you could argue, low paying jobs from international folks that are coming in that they're saying that we just need. We don't have enough.
It's like Arizona State's the largest university in America. You don't have enough people that you can hire. Give me a break. This is the outcome that happens and it completely changes the dynamics of your entire community.
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