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Chapter 1: Why is Trump accepting white South African refugees?
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Some white South Africans refugee status. Why? Well, because the government in South Africa discriminates against white South Africans.
According to the New York Times, dozens of white South Africans arrived in the United States on Monday on a charter jet after being granted refugee status by the Trump administration, which has made it virtually impossible for any other refugees to seek safe haven in America. And this, of course, is the problem that the left and the media are having.
Why do these refugees get in when, say, Afghan refugees are not getting in? The arrival represents a drastic reversal, says the New York Times, in the United States' refugee policies, which have long focused on helping people fleeing war, famine, and genocide.
The South Africans say they've been discriminated against and now job opportunities have been subject to violence because of their race, though the specifics of their cases are unclear. So President Trump said farmers are being killed. He's talking about in South Africa, there've been a spate of murders of farmers in South Africa.
Farmers in South Africa, people who own land in South Africa are disproportionately white compared to the surrounding population, which means that many of the farmers who are being killed are in fact white. And yes, there have been enormous numbers of farmers who are killed for racial reasons.
I mean, at the very least, the sort of evidence left on scene at the murders suggests that race played a part. President Trump had this to say about why he was allowing the refugees to enter the United States from South Africa.
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Chapter 2: What is the historical context of Afrikaners in South Africa?
Because they're being killed and we don't want to see people be killed. Now, South Africa leadership is coming to see me, I understand, sometime next week. And, you know, we're supposed to have a... I guess a G20 meeting there or something. But we're having a G20 meeting. I don't know how we can go unless that situation's taken care of.
But it's a genocide that's taking place that you people don't want to write about. But it's a terrible thing that's taking place. And farmers are being killed. They happen to be white. But whether they're white or black makes no difference to me. But white farmers are being brutally killed, and their land is being confiscated in South Africa.
OK, the last part is actually the relevant part. We'll talk about whether, in fact, there's a quote unquote genocide of whites in South Africa in just a little while with Dr. Ernst Root, who is the deputy CEO of Afroforum. And we will talk with him about what exactly is happening there, because obviously he's the guy on the ground who's been on the show before and wanted to get an update.
But in order to understand why the United States is bringing Afrikaners to the United States, we actually have to know a little bit of the history. So Afrikaners, Boers, have been in South Africa since 1652. That's when the Dutch East India Company established a station at the Cape of Good Hope. What does this mean?
Well, it means that for legitimately 350 years, there have been white people in South Africa. Originally, the Afrikaners were Dutch. Eventually, they were joined by both German and French citizens. The British Empire came in the early 19th century to establish its own colonies in South Africa. Eventually, this led to conflict. The British expanded their reach.
The Boers made their way inland because they didn't actually want to be under the the edict of the British Empire. Eventually, there were some conflicts. The biggest conflict was the Second Boer War. That was because the Afrikaners were in an area called the Transvaal. The Transvaal, it turned out, was a region very heavy in gold.
Today, you hear about the BRICS nations and you hear about the reliance on gold. South African gold has been a very big thing for a century and a half. The finding of gold in the Transvaal essentially incentivized the British Empire to try and expand its holdings in South Africa, leading to the Second Boer War that eventually ended with the British Empire victorious.
In 1948, fast forward half a century, the National Party came to power and adopted a formal regime of apartheid. By 1950, the races were being categorized by law with special privileges required. for whites as opposed to blacks. In 1960, the so-called Sharpeville massacre ended with the death of 69 anti-apartheid protesters.
In 1961, Nelson Mandela, who you'll know from all the movies, of course, and the fact that he's one of the most famous men who ever lived, declared the end of nonviolent resistance and actually began engaging in violent activities directed against the government. He was arrested the next year.
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Chapter 3: How are South Africa's racial policies affecting its citizens?
There are lots of bad things in the world, and one of the dumb ways to cover politics is to suggest that because a bad thing is happening in one direction, that means no bad things have ever happened in the other direction or will ever happen in the other direction. So since the end of apartheid, there has been a radical upsurge in the amount of racial discrimination against whites.
Now, we have to discuss the sort of population of whites in South Africa. How many whites are there? So let's talk about the population breakdown of South Africa by race. I turn to our sponsors over a perplexity to answer that question. What is the population breakdown of South Africa by race and how has it changed since 1900?
So today, black Africans represent about 81.4% of the population of South Africa colored, which is a reference in South Africa to people of mixed race ethnicity. represent 8.2%. Whites represent 7.3%. That is a massive change since about 1900.
So if you look at the population in 1904, for example, according to our friends at Perplexity, 67.3% of the population was black African, but fully a fifth, 21.6%, was white. Even as of 1960, those population percentages were relatively similar. That's 68% of the population of South Africa was black African. Almost 20% was white. By 1996, those percentages had shifted dramatically. Suddenly, 77%
of the South African population was black, African, as opposed to 11% white. And today, obviously, the white population has dropped dramatically even further than that. The government has increasingly started to pass laws that are directed against whites in South Africa. Most famously, just this year, the South African president, a guy named Cyril Ramaphosa, who again is the head of the ANC.
The ANC has been the governing party in South Africa since literally 1994, which should be strange to you. I mean, usually you don't have one party that governs an entire country for 30 years, but that's what's happening in South Africa. He has now turned a bill into a law allowing land seizures by the state without compensation.
This is one of the things that is driving so much angst and the possibility of violence in South Africa is the great fear that South Africa is going to do the same thing that Robert Mugabe did in Zimbabwe, in which Zimbabwe basically just expropriated all land from whites and then targeted them as a government because land ownership in South Africa is still disproportionately white.
And what that means is that South Africa, in an attempt to enact reparative justice. This is why reparations are always a problem. Because you are taking away from a living human being because of something their grandparents did. When you do that, what you end up with is a system of racial discrimination.
According to the BBC, back in January, black people own only a small fraction of farmland nationwide more than 30 years after the end of the racist system of apartheid. The majority remains with the white minority. This has led to frustration and anger over the slow pace of reform. Ramaphosa's ANC party hailed the law as a significant milestone in the country's transformation.
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Chapter 4: What are the political dynamics involving Julius Malema in South Africa?
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And meanwhile, the outsider parties, you know, people like Julius Malema, you've seen Julius Malema on X, particularly as the head of the EFF, which is a radical party in South Africa. And he is most famous. They're called the Economic Freedom Fighters. They're communist black nationalists.
They're also in 2018, by the way, I should point out that the head of the ANC, Cyril Ramaphosa, allegedly said he wanted Malema back in his party. Malema used to be a member of the ANC. Here is a giant rally just a few years ago in which Julius Malema is leading an enormous crowd enchanting, kill the boar, the farmer, which is in fact the language of genocide.
If you're talking about just kill the boars, that's no different than kill the blacks or kill the Jews. I mean, that That is what it is. Everyone who's attempting to read some sort of crypto message in there that somehow lets Julius Malema and the people who are chanting this off the hook substitute any other race for Boers and tell me that this isn't genocidal language. It just is.
To kill Hamas, kill the poor, the farmer, kill the poor, the farmer.
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Chapter 5: Why is the U.S. immigration system under scrutiny?
And so it preferenced people who were from, for example, Western Europe, and then it went to people who were from Eastern Europe, and then went into people who were from Africa or from Asia. And there were quotas based on country. In 1965, those quotas were completely exploded. And instead, it established a new preference system that was based on family reunification, chain migration.
So if you got in, you got to bring your entire family. And it obliterated all sort of quota systems with regard to Europe. So the law set annual caps at the time, 170,000 visas for the Eastern Hemisphere and a cap of 120,000 visas for the Western Hemisphere. Now, again, the Western Hemisphere would be South and Latin America.
And you can see the predictable result, which is that over the course of time, you now see a massive uptick in the number of immigrants from Mexico, a huge number of immigrants from the Caribbean and other Americas like Latin America, Central America, huge uptick from Asia as well. European immigration basically plummets to almost zero. I mean, really, really, really down.
And the question is, why exactly did Teddy Kennedy do this? And the answer is that Teddy Kennedy, like many members of the left, did believe in this idea of a sort of European guilt toward the rest of the world and an American guilt toward the rest of the world. And so what he said is that the existing quota system was fundamentally an unfair and inconsistent with American values.
This is where you get the Democrats today saying that the sort of credo of Americanism is the Statue of Liberty where we welcome your poor, your tired, your huddled masses yearning to be free. That that is how immigration needs to be done. As opposed to, you can come here, but there will be no welfare system to support you.
And this is a huge difference, by the way, in the pre-World War II era in the United States versus the post-World War II era in the United States. The type of immigrants who are drawn to the United States change over time. America in 1900 basically had zero welfare system for people who are coming here.
So when my great, great grandparents got to the United States in the early 20th century, there was no welfare system, essentially. They came to the United States. They had to, by dint of necessity, learn English and assimilate because if they did not, they would not make enough money to survive. And so they assimilated.
This is very common, by the way, in Jewish households in the early 20th century is that they would come speaking Yiddish and then they would tell their kids they were not allowed to speak Yiddish in the house so that their kids would learn to speak English with more alacrity and assimilate more quickly. And that is for both cultural reasons, you're leaving behind the old country.
And also because the idea is that you need to assimilate to American culture. That's why you came is to be part of the American dream, not to bring the European or Eastern European or Russian or Lithuanian dream to the United States. The American dream is a different thing. It's about upward mobility, assimilation to a commerce-driven culture that has at its basis Anglo-American law.
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Chapter 6: How has U.S. immigration policy evolved since 1965?
So Julius Malema is the guy who's most famous for chanting this Kiel de Boer chant. He was a member of the ruling party. He was the president of Youth League. And several years ago, he left to start his own party. He left because of internal faction fighting, not because of ideological disagreements.
And so his new party is trying to present itself as the more radical version of what the ANC, the ruling party, should be. But if you look at it from a policy perspective, there really isn't much difference. The ANC tries to come across as a bit more nuanced, a bit more balanced. But when you read their actual policy document, it's very similar.
And so what we do have is even though between these parties, you would see them attacking each other politically, competing for votes. But on a personal level, we would often hear leaders, including the president himself, inviting Julius Malema in particular to join, to rejoin the ANC, to become a member of the ruling party.
So it's important to understand that even though the EFF is seen and presented as more radical, ideologically, there's not much difference between them.
So there's been a lot of talk, obviously, in the United States about taking in Afrikaners to the United States, the refugee plan. There's been opposition from many of the usual suspects who suggest that perhaps they don't deserve refugee status or people who are offended by the idea that whites can't be refugees, which, of course, is absurd. What do you make of the refugee plan?
Is it the right idea? What is the longer term solution in South Africa?
So the refugee plan is a good thing for people who want to leave South Africa. And there are people who want to leave. And there are a lot of people who have experienced trauma, having been in a farm attack, having lost loved ones and so forth, or another form of trauma, and they want to get out.
And then there are people who are really struggling because of these race laws, struggling to get employment, don't have a job, but who are willing to work and able to work, but they are pushed out because of the color of their skin. And so if these people want to leave, it's good for them to leave, to be able to do so.
And we would hope our message to them would be to remain connected and to be ambassadors for our cause where they are. But that cannot be the only solution. And I have to say this, that if... What the American government does is exclusively a refugee program. It has the potential to be very catastrophic for us because what we need is a solution in South Africa. We need systemic reform.
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Chapter 7: What challenges do Afrikaners face in South Africa?
And President Trump's signal contribution to Middle Eastern history in his first term was the recognition that there are a lot of countries there that actually care more about the economy than just hating Jews. That was the basis of the Abraham Accords. It's why, for example, the UAE and Bahrain and Morocco all joined the Abraham Accords.
The idea was economic development, tech development in the region would be better served than a sort of cross-religion hatred. That was also pushed forward by the fact that Iran was deeply threatening. Well, now the question in the Middle East is whether President Trump is going to maintain that very wise strategy in the Middle East or whether he's going to shift off of that toward something else.
The reality is that America could easily push into Abraham Accords 2 by linking many of the things that are happening in Saudi, UAE, even Qatar, with what's happening in Israel. The United States seems to be simultaneously linking and delinking. It's kind of a strange strategy. Honestly, it's kind of unclear what the strategy is with regard to
Saudi Arabia and Israel with regard to some sort of Abraham Accords? Are they going to try to speed run and end the war in Gaza? Are they going to let Israel finish the job in Gaza and then approach an Abraham Accord? What is happening along those lines?
But the idea that President Trump is bringing along business leaders to meet with the Saudis or the UAE to actually invest in American business without the possibility of, say, policy concessions on the other side by the United States, that's fine. That's fine. Again, more investment in American business, better.
The concessions from the United States should not be particularly rich to countries that historically have not had a particularly wonderful record with the United States. President Trump was asked about all of this yesterday when he was still in Washington, D.C., while signing an executive order by a member of ABC News.
Mr. President, what do you say to people who view that luxury jet as a personal gift to you? Why not leave it behind?
You're ABC fake news, right? It's only ABC. Well, a few of you would. Let me tell you, you should be embarrassed asking that question. They're giving us a free jet. I could say, no, no, no, don't give us. I want to pay you a billion or 400 million or whatever it is. Or I could say, thank you very much.
Okay, well, beware of Qatari's bearing gifts. Well, meanwhile, something I do love. Okay, President Trump did, in fact, through Steve Witkoff, broker the release of Idan Alexander, the last American hostage who was left in Gaza. Again, I know the family. I introduced the family to the Trump, to President Trump himself.
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