Mike
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Coder Radio
605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Is it just me being pedantic, though? Like, isn't the OpenAI problem just arithmetic? That they're just spending too much money at an insane rate.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Which, yeah, which I mean, people who listen to the show, which I think it's mostly regulars, right? They know that I personally hate the idea of let's have the government make us a monopoly because safety. Let's not forget the I mean, I am not like, you know, turning traitor here.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
But, you know, the American AI companies are the ones who brought us African-American Nazis because they were so worried about, you know, media criticism and bullshit like that. They way over indexed on safety in retrospect. Well, not only that, they spent like drunk sailors. They over indexed on political nonsense. You know, they're too busy fighting with Sarah Silverman, which I mean, come on.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
When China just – I mean the deep-seek people and God knows what else they've got going on over there are – I think they're going to eat their lunch. Yeah, and maybe Trump will regulate some safety. Trump might put up a moat. But it being open source, an MIT license, is going to make it really hard for the government to put up a moat to prevent this.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Which, if it's true that they found a way to not have to leverage CUDA, and they're not just lying and somehow black market imported the GPUs, which I kind of feel like they probably did find a way around CUDA. That long term is super bad for NVIDIA, right? Their moat has been, you know, four letters, CUDA.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
I don't even know which M I'm running this. Real-time double-check. My M2 Macs, I'm going to tell you, DeepSeek runs real fast on this thing.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
And I didn't need a brand new NVIDIA GPU at all. This is, and once again, Uncle Tim, right, our 3D chess player of the day, somehow comes out on top no matter what happens.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Well, I mean, this is where I'm going to turn it to you. I think all that's happened here is we guaranteed that the federal government is going to put in a new keg and let's keep the drunk money flowing. Maybe, yeah, and help everybody build, build, build. Also, that Stargate project, I decided to foolishly read the plan. Or the publicly available plan? My level of disappointment is pretty high.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Yeah. I mean, especially if you're using, like, legacy Oracle Java, it seems like it'd be a pretty big lift.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
So, Chris, for the amount of money they're spending, right? And you know it's going to be more. How many jobs, like real jobs, full-time jobs, do you think they're creating directly? Give me like a high-low.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
57,000? No, no, no. 57.00. The gains that they're claiming are like tertiary stuff like, oh, you know, the bar in town will do better. There will be more like people buying houses. Because it's data centers and it's not, they're going to be like automated. And of course, like any other functional data center, they're going to contract most of their support staff, right?
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
And by support staff, I mean people who aren't tech heads, you know, cleaning, maintenance, all that good stuff. Right. Yeah. Remember Foxconn in Wisconsin? Poor, innocent Wisconsin that got just rolled. Yeah, this is going to be Foxconn 2.0.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Satya came right out and was like, yeah, I was already doing this.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
I mean, I would almost guess that new projects aren't starting with Oracle Java because I feel like we've kind of moved on from proprietary languages you have to license for quite some time now, right? So yeah, sure, if you were to start a new Java project, I think you'd almost certainly use OpenJDK, right? Why wouldn't you?
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Oh, I'm sure he's invigorated. I have no doubt. I mean, this is like the kind of thing you say when you have to say something and you're just deeply pissed off.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
So I would I would be I mean, the problem is you've got to get through your ex-boyfriend, Elon. But once you're done with that, because if you can get near Trump, seriously, if I was Sam, I would find whatever the Top Gun equivalent of the movie Biden saw. But like even if they were Russians in the movie, just like paint like a Chinese red star on the plane, like do some kind of like filter. Yeah.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
And to scare the shit out of Trump about China and be like, they said Trump is, like, ugly and orange. I would really just mess with him and just be like, hey, you should, like, not let them in the country.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Wait, wait. Can I back that out a little bit? It's kind of funny, right? Just... Open AI did to startups by saying, if you let them have the technology and you let them compete with us, they're going to post a bunch of racist crap. Yeah. Oh, can't do that. So now he's just got to change his tune and be anti-Chinese.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
get even more powerful oh my god you you blame biden that's the move you say mr president i was gonna move faster but the damn democrats with all their stupid xyz anti-racist woke made me hold back that's the move that's that is the s-tier move that you make Because then Trump would be like, oh, Sam, I'm sorry they did this to you. Oh, my God.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
And then Trump gets to tweet or social truth, whatever the hell he does, come out and say, I'm invigorating our AI market, our AI companies, and we're not going to hold them back with woke nonsense.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Mr. President, you have shown me the light. I was lost. I was making, I mean, really, treat it like a religious conversion. Oh, God.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
That was a fantastic... His hair. Did you see his hair with Satya today? It's doing some Oro stuff there. I don't know what's going on, but it's like... His hair is just for folks, obviously, a podcast, not visual. It's straight up as though he's in a battle. Maybe it's like a battle headdress kind of situation.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
I'm thinking insurance companies, the government, banks, people who have ancient systems. Yeah, sure. Wes makes a good point in the chat. Yeah, they're all the way back on Java 8. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Probably. Sure, they're paying Oracle for the license because they need security updates and maintenance and all that good stuff.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
At least they didn't make you watch a Top Gun movie to scare the shit out of you.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
And it's good to hear from you. He's doing all kinds of data stuff over at our podcast and on LinkedIn. We're connected. It's kind of – I don't know, man. I think he just needs to get his Hollywood video card and send Trump a movie. I'm sorry. I can't get over the fact that they showed Biden a movie and he did an executive order. Yeah.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
You know what the sad part is? I believe either of them, Trump or Biden, would totally do that.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
I was going to say, this is TomCruise.ai. There we go.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Whoever showed him this film did not do it by accident. There's no way.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Really? A Tom Cruise movie? Come on, man. Isn't that great? You have, like, all the classified information. You could wake up on a Tuesday and be like, all right, guys, here's what's going on in Area 51. Instead, you're like, Tom Cruise is going to show me the way.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Oh, my God. Oh, no, no, no. How about... Really anything that's actually the actual Stargate where they take over people's bodies, that's pretty rough.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Yeah, but it's probably one of those situations where the lift to change is just, you know, it's too much.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Thank you. That might be our first poem written into Coder Radio.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Preferably with an Apple product that then was permanently water damaged.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You can copy confidential information out of the company.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
but you can't from Teams go into the documentation. Once it's on the clipboard, couldn't you just copy it like elsewhere?
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
But you can't copy from Teams to the doc, which presumably, since you said custom app, is some sort of like lockdown secure document viewer app. Okay. Well, that's pretty stupid.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. So GitHub, you know, they have their GitHub actions, and I guess now they're doing forced updates on them, which, you know, you can kind of see why, right? I mean, I'm not trying to be a total curmudgeon here, but I had a situation where an old client called, hey, we want to change something a little, you know, can you just do that for us real fast?
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
I haven't deployed to this thing in forever. They've kind of been, you know, It's behind their firewall. They're doing their own. They're running it, right? It's just running. So I'm like, sure. No problem. Little did I know. Little did I know. How hard could it be? How hard could it be? This is a slam dunk, right? Wrong. Uh-oh. I had to rewrite my action script. Now, it wasn't so bad.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Because I got lucky that the only couple I – the ones I had were fairly minor and just the straight upgrade, they still worked. There is definitely a real possibility, and I saw people complaining on Reddit about this, that, yeah, I mean, and, you know, your stuff just breaks and you can't deploy anymore. And it doesn't, like, warn you. It just doesn't deploy. It refuses, right?
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Anybody familiar with the GitHub Actions UI? Right when you push, if you open the GitHub Actions UI in your browser, it just tells you straight out, I'm refusing to push. This version is deprecated. Blah, blah, blah. You were warned, basically.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Okay, so that is a maybe viable thing for companies whose product is their software, or when you have a valid maintenance contract, which me and this client do not.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
So it put me in a horrible position. I did fix it, but then I had to go be like, so this is going to be more money, right? I had to call them and be like, you got to pay me more money. Not fun. Not a good conversation. I mean, they were fine. I got to pay you more money. Why exactly?
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Well, because, you know, the quote unquote open source thing we're using on GitHub decided to just like deprecate that version. We had to do an in-place upgrade.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Yeah, I find this incredibly irritating because, you know, I know there'll be the alpha nerds out there who are like, well, you know, you got to keep your stuff up to date. Have you ever sold anything yourself is what I would say to that person. Because people, particularly non-technical business people, hate paying for maintenance contracts.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Because it's true, like if you've done a good job and there's not a lot of issues, they're paying you every month or every quarter to do nothing most of the time, right? Just routine updates and, you know, checks and a little bit of maintenance here and there. But what happens if you don't have one is you're either doing the work for free as the vendor, right? Updating to match stuff like this.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Or when they want to change something small, it's a bigger job than anybody would expect.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Which was the case this time. So I don't know. I think GitHub, which is weird because they're a Microsoft company now, really needs to, like, sure, put up the nasty warning that this is deprecated. And that's what I wish they had done. Like a big red... You can pump it into my Slack because that's how I do my CI deployments.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
And then I would take that warning and go to the customer and say, we really need to update this, and this is what it would cost to do that.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Well, no, no, no. No, no. They did that, right? But nobody had deployed anything for 90 days because they were just running it. Right, right. It should run indefinitely. And the warnings should just become increasingly aggressive until you say, we're not updated. Use the magic S word security, right? That is the way you get business types to upgrade things. Just say security over and over again.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
I mean, it wasn't a big job, right? It took me like an hour, but it's just, I hate this kind of thing. Maybe I'm a little scarred from my bad old days with my Mac app.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Yeah, it's just not, you know, especially in today's age, there's always like SaaS salespeople sniffing around looking to get in there. And yeah, I don't know. I think GitHub needs to maybe go to, not Cupertino, go to Redmond and talk to some of their Microsoft colleagues about legacy support.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Go to alice.dev and let me know if you want anything automated or data management.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
I'm so dramatic. It's fine. It's really fine. Amazing panic, though. CNBC was on fire yesterday.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
And then on Monday, they lost $600 billion. Well, you know, listen, you win some, you lose some. You know how it goes. No? That's not how we feel?
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Yeah, I mean, you know, I did play around with it some. It's not terrible, right? And I particularly like that it's open source. MIT can run it on your machine or, you know, your servers. I think you make a good point about the money, though, because I think that's where the rubber meets the road or the cash meets the cashier's machine, right? Yeah.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
I have, and I think you've agreed with me pretty much, we've been on our hobby horse here that the math doesn't seem to be mathing with the AI investments.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Hang on, Chris. Hang on. So no chevrons are encoding? So we're just going to – all right, screw it. Send SG-13. We don't give a shit about them anyway.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
I mean, come on. Right. That's what I'm asking. Well, we can't.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
You know, it is the year of the snake, Chris, and you got to strike.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Wait, Chris, we have to be positive on DeepSeek, which I keep calling DeepSync, and I had to proofread my stupid blog post like 10 times because of that. CB in the chat asked DeepSeek what it thinks about Coder Radio. I think you should read that out. Okay, you ready? Go.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
If you can't trust the Chinese AI about your podcasting choices. Honestly, who do you trust? You got nothing. So I like that. But kidding aside. No, I mean, it's open source. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Oh, no. I wrote up my little brief for executives, business people that I send out and I post on the Alice blog.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
uh yeah i mean the the big drawback to deep seek is that is in fact chinese right and there's always going to be i would say until things calm down hopefully they do a kernel of doubt right i was you know we don't have it in the doc today but uh you know there's a vs code uh fork out of china using their own ai powered stuff too that i just find highly suspicious I don't know, right? Like this?
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Yeah, of course. I think being MIT licensed makes it a little more trustworthy. I'm not sure that I would want to use a, are we calling it AI as a service now? Is that the term?
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It's a term I've been using, but I don't know if it's like a thing.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
Yeah. I mean, I think there's a big difference between, you know, I am sure there are hundreds of people auditing this code right now that's on GitHub.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
So why wouldn't this follow the trajectory that all other technology trends, since we have been doing the show and even before, of unless you are in a regulated industry, i.e. the military, certain banking things, certain medical things, right? Yeah. maybe certain avionics and necessary infrastructure, that you always end up going for the cheapest solution.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
We have a decade of me bitching and moaning about people not wanting to do Objective-C native development or pay for it, right? So you're suggesting this was probably inevitable. I am pretty skeptical of our friends over in China, right? Because, you know, why wouldn't they do everything we've done, basically? Yeah.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
But something like this, that's MIT-licensed, I mean... Oh, can I go way out on a Naboo limb here?
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
I think this is the first thing out of, quote, AI, that is potentially... I'm not, like, putting my Gungan flag down. But potentially... an opportunity for independent developers to actually leverage this on their own products and their own IP where they're not paying what is effectively a tax to open AI.
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605: The Democrats Behind DeepSeek
I know someone's going to scream Lama, Lama, Lama, Red Pajama to me, but Lama's not that good. Lama, it's just not there. Yeah, it's not as good. In fact, I A-B tested Deep Seek, not Sync, Deep Seek, against Lama in that beautiful LM Studio app you shared with me. And it's just – there's no – it's not a contest. It's like the New York Yankees playing a little league team.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Now, as part of the cleanup effort, the state of Florida and the counties, whatever agencies are in charge of this, they test the content of the sewer water for various diseases. Oh, God. Oh, we're proud to have our brand new variant of new dominant COVID that is spreading like wildfire here.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Well, you and I have been predicting that that COVID thing wasn't a once-in-a-lifetime experience. Yeah. So I'm getting very... Now, Florida, just fun fact about living in a very hot place, our seasons are... people go outside in the winter and stay inside in the summer.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Right. So like COVID transmission is worse in the summer. So the hope, and this is like the positive spin the paper put on it is that, well, we're coming to the cooler season and that's great because you know, when the North gets it and everybody else gets it, it'll, we'll be good. We already went through it. You probably had COVID and sure enough, they've been testing people.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
A lot of people had COVID and didn't know, right. This new version. We have no fat in the economic buffer here to take another hit like that, even if it's not two years, even if it's three months, six months. I mean, I can only speak for myself on this, but... All those COVID business reliefs were so crooked. The companies got a lot.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
A lot of little guys, myself included, are being forced to pay back money they would not have taken had they not been solicited to take it. I would have simply laid people off. And I'm being compelled to pay it back with interest, which is bullshit because the people I kept employed all got very good jobs anyway. Right.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
They left naturally when the when the you know, whatever, because they were young and they got better jobs. And I'm left. Basically, I kept them on and now I'm left paying for them again. So this is where the limits of government intervention are minimal, let's say, right? And try negotiating with the IRS. It's fun.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Yeah, I mean, let's start, I think really this came about with the rise of GitHub in a lot of ways. And Git, right? It doesn't have to be GitHub, but I think GitHub is probably the most known and primary platform. You know, as development teams started using more decentralized source control, right, instead of, does anybody remember Bazaar? Huh?
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Okay, cool. And GitHub started building more tools in. At the same time, we had the rise of Rails, which I think... I know I'm going to get some crap. Some people are going to yell at me for this. I actually think the Rails evangelism for things like TTD and deployments with automated tests running is a really big part of it. I mean, Rails really...
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
We could do a whole show, a very controversial show, on how I truly believe that Rails actually influenced a lot of what we would consider modern web development, particularly during the period of the rise of DevOps in the aughts. I mean, MVC, right? You only have ASP MVC because Rails exists. Then Spring Boot. Suspiciously, Rails is similar. Sorry, Java guys, but that's where we are.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Django, right? Do I have to keep going? It felt like there was a sea change where the role of, let's say, senior developer and IT admin were starting to overlap quite a lot, right? Yeah. So what was happening is... Now, I think you'll have a different perspective, Chris.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
But I feel like a lot of companies were trying to trim kind of more experienced IT admins and make their admin department more like the help desk people. So they would pretty heartily embrace this idea that the developers themselves would deploy the applications. And that coupled with the Rails-inspired love of... Remember, it's a big deal, right?
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
One of the tenets of this kind of deployment philosophy is you're deploying all the time, where before this, the standard was, oh, man, we're going to be deploying this week. All right, everybody, nobody can take vacation, right? It was really all hands on deck. Yeah, yeah. Where this is, you're deploying... I mean, I know a lot of places want to deploy every couple hours. It's kind of crazy.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Yeah. So, you know, it eventually became that your Docker, Doku stuff could be deployed with just a config and a YAML file.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
So a thing that often happens in more complicated applications, though, is you do end up relying on some binary software that just needs to be on the production system. Oh, yeah. I'm not going to say it's not possible, but it's not necessarily what these YAML file-using tools, i.e. Doku, for example, which is still my favorite, are trying to do.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
So, I mean, I got to give one to the crap people today. And the Go people, actually. I don't know why I'm promoting SeaweedFS so much. I just love it. I don't get a kickback or anything. I'm just really excited about it. It's a flat file storage solution. Mimics the S3 API. I've been talking about it for three weeks now. You should go check it out. It's written in Go.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Is that what you mean? Let's-a go! Yes, yes, that's what I mean. So, yeah, I mean, you might have to install Go dependencies, right? Or whatever, depending on how you do things.
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Before you jump there, one more positive thing, and then I'm going to join you in dunking like Michael Jordan here. All right. Docker was huge for DevOps, and Docker and the whole ecosystem of container orchestration tools that spawned, such as Kubernetes, huge. And we called it, and I'm never going to stop reminding people of that. All right. Go on. Take your dump.
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Yeah. I mean I think the hot air got a little too hot too fast. But, you know, so honestly, when you played that clip, the first thing that popped into my mind was Master Yoda. Fear leads to anger. So with that said, Procreate competes with Adobe, who are just the worst. I'm sorry, but you guys are like dicks of the first order.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
So isn't this just exactly what happened with like Agile, right?
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Yeah. But, you know, Agile, the original Agile manifesto has some very, very strong points. And then the consultants got involved.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
I would even, and I know we've gotten over the years some negative feedback on this, but that's okay. Everybody's opinion is welcome. Even Egon's. Although Egon doesn't actually care about this. The testing stuff. Testing became the same thing where it went from, hey, we can automate some testing that will catch regressions. Great.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
You have to test 100% of your code, and it becomes like a religion. And there's like TDD and BDD and Gandalf the Grey DD consultants that you can hire. It's like,
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Anybody who's a consultant, I mean, unless they're a dev calling themselves or an admin calling themselves a consultant, if their whole job is PowerPoints, just, you know, maybe just take your team out to dinner.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Are you sure he wasn't, like, tabbing out to Miniclip or something like that? Maybe when I'm not looking. Maybe he was aware. Yeah. Yeah. So DevOps, it's where are we now? I think we should wrap it up there. Where are we now? How do you feel? You're the system admin. I don't feel like anybody talks about it anymore. Oh, contrary.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
They once. So I feel like the people who talk about it now, even the evil consultants got kind of shellacked. Yeah. By the the we used to call them platform as a service. Remember that pass, which always reminds me of pause the Easter die, right? The Easter egg die thing. But it's like D.O., our beloved former sponsor who I use all the time. wants to get you to use their application framework.
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They have a name for it, but it's basically selling you DevOps that is specific to them. Amazon is more than eager to do the same thing.
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It's cloud. Well, I would even argue Lambda and Microsoft, whatever, Azure Functions, all that stateless, serverless, whatever crap, that's just DevOps taken to its logical conclusion. Don't even worry about a server. Just give us your function. We'll throw it up there and we'll charge you three times as much to run it every time.
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I have a confession to make, though. Okay. So my choice is always like D.O., right? Yeah. Like if it's just like a client who comes to me and says, we don't care. Get it done. You know, tell us what to do. I actually, if I'm not given the choice, I prefer Azure to AWS. Which feels like blasphemy, but I just do.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
I find it more, I mean, it's very Microsoft, but I think the correlation, maybe it's a correlation issue of a lot of these companies I'm working with are very deeply into the SharePoint Active Directory world. So just being on Azure tends to, one, it's easier to sell to their IT people, right? It's not a scary new vendor.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
I don't know when Adobe became super evil, but... I think Flash. Flash. Yeah, I guess so. Really, the Creative Cloud stuff really just chapped my ass a little too much. I can't... I don't know. I reflexively support any competitor of theirs. Yeah. I don't do a ton of design stuff. I contract most of that out now.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
And two, there are certain advantages you could get with permissions and stuff like that.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Do you remember the Butterbot in Rick and Morty? Yes. What is my purpose? You serve butter.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Yeah, so well done, Uncle Tim, on the existential crisis product.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
So, I mean, but we still, TMB still has a Creative Cloud license because you have to, right? Someone's going to send you a Photoshop or an Illustrator file. And that's just the way, like, it doesn't feel like a product choice. It feels like a tax almost.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
you know it's going to run its ass right off the table.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
I don't. This is a, you know, your buddy Marco Arman on the ATP show was actually pretty negative on Apple, up to the point of saying they might need new leadership. Really? Yeah, it's, they've gotten, they've gotten so big that making that number go up and to the right, I think is just a big challenge for them.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Yeah. I was like, oh, maybe. Yeah. We're getting there.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
I mean, the MetaQuest is fun, but it's a toy. Yeah. And a really expensive toy. 500 bucks.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
There's this new upstart company over here in Orlando called Skynet. They've got this.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
I think the dream would be Rosie the Robot from the Jetsons, right?
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Oh, I don't think they've been let off. Oh, you don't think so? I think this is one of those things where we're used to moving fast in our little corner of the world, but the rest of the world moves super slow. Litigious stuff moves slower. I agree with you there. Mike, who wrote in, is right.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
The $5 point whatever billion, that's going to send several lawyers' grandkids to college when the lawsuits all come in.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
If I was CrowdStrike, I'd be looking at insurance against lawsuits and bankruptcy protection or contingency plans because there's –
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
That didn't work. $10 Uber cards, which is insulting enough, but also ended up not working. So I mean if I'm the president of Delta Airlines and I need to not have my huevos rancheros cut off at the next board meeting, I'm going to my chief legal counsel and be like, so I want to bend these guys over a barrel.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
They'd love one more moat. Give them another moat. Why not? So Microsoft's defense, I'm going to make their case. I'm not saying if I agree. I could see a lot of people are saying it's disingenuous. The problem is they were forced to allow this. If Microsoft had their way, no one would have this kind of access.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
And would the EU force them? Which I got to be honest, if I'm Satya, that's exactly what I would say because I want to get the EU out of my knickers, right? I want them out of my lingerie drawer.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Right, what you're suggesting is making it easier and less dangerous for the thing they don't want to be done to be done. Why would you ever do that? It would be like me saying, never mind, I'm not even going to suggest it because I don't want to give anybody ideas. I don't like lawyers. I think lawyers are some pretty slippery folks.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Yeah. I can't imagine Microsoft couldn't come up with some... plausible case that CrowdStrike has caused them damages? Because I think the answer is you sue them into oblivion, right? Like basically you go Peter Thiel, Hulk Hogan. This isn't a suit to recover money. This is a suit to end this entity.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
And if I was Microsoft and I need the love of my life salary in a minute, I'd go right back to the EU and say, look what you've wrought. Ah, look what you've done.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Yeah. I mean, seriously, f*** them. What have they got? Nothing. They have their regulations, but they're on a track down the toilet.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
I'm sorry, but China, America, even Russia, to a point, you have to listen to. But I don't know. I... Basically, they want to be the local auditor. It's just such a scummy thing. Not in the EU anymore, but Chaucer, you guys are like the partners. You're just going around trying to tax the shit out of everybody and say, oh, you can't do that, you can't do that, but build something of your own.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Where's your Microsoft? Yeah, where's your big tech company at? Right, and I agree we do need some regulation, but it should be done by us. And that regulation should be in the form of breakups.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Xbox, instead of Microsoft just destroying it like they are, they should just spin it out. If Azure was its own company, Office its own company. Office and Outlook together.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Right. Or all Microsoft's consulting services that they do would be one of the biggest consulting companies.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Yeah, I mean, I actually think Windows would probably be one of the weaker ones.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
I think you'd stick Windows with the… Office, probably. Office, yeah.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Apple's the harder one to break up. I mean, Vision Pro should be its own company just so they can write that shit off and be done with it. No kidding. Take the loss. Take the tax break. But no, I mean, no offense to our EU listeners, but this is kind of… I'm hyper-sympathetic to the Microsoft case here of, you made us open up our kernel. What did you think was going to happen?
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Which, if you knew what you were talking about, you would know is a crazy thing to do.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Oh, Satya's too nice, because he doesn't want to draw a negative, because they're doing a bunch of other crap that they probably should be regulating for.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
But if you really look at it, it's... I don't agree with everything that was written in the op-ed, but was it – who was it? It was a Paul Graham or Peter Thiel. One of them wrote an op-ed. I think it was in the Wall Street Journal. Someone will fact-check me on this and where it was.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
But they made a pretty strong case, and they were all over Twitter with it, about why the EU doesn't have a Microsoft or an Apple.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Yes, a couple weeks ago. Now, the case was awfully self-serving because they kept mentioning crypto. But, you know, it does make me wonder because, like, how come Canonical never pulled it off? Right? Canonical's a big company, but they never made it. My beloved SUSE just seems troubled these days. You know, what happened? Business?
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Yeah. Anywhere you want to send the people in the meantime. Go to alice.dev and be nice to your local European politician.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
That's really mean. You have to pay us. The more trolly it is, the more you have to pay.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Yeah. I mean, we've been talking about this for years now, right, that ever since the mobile app boom, I feel like the industry has been looking for the next big hotness that would generate outsized returns. You know what I've realized, Mike?
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Yeah, no, I absolutely believe that. I mean, I don't know what to say. It seems pretty obvious to me. I mean, have you been grocery shopping recently? Oh, my gosh, yeah. Like, I wish I owned a chicken coop, honestly.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
But it's up on the basics. It's stuff you really – you're a forced buyer in a lot of ways.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Maybe. I mean, I just I would push back a little bit because we've also heard tons of people. Even in our small jobs chat room, which I would encourage people to use because it doesn't cost you anything, right? Whether you're the employer or the prospective employee. And we don't get anything. Do we, Chris? I don't think we get a damn thing from that. No, it's just a matrix chat.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
It's a community thing, yeah. So a lot of people have gotten laid off, right? There's been... I mean, I would say yes, if you if you were making, you know, $80,000 a year or something, it's a lot easier to take the hit than than somebody, you know, like, let's say a bartender or, you know, waitress during COVID. But it's it's still like pain is all relative and it still hurts.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
So I agree with you. There's also, we've talked about this before, like classes of tech people. Like, yeah, fancy pants guy who went to MIT and then got a job at Google and is really upset because now he has to show up at the office and he can't get his massage every day. Well, I agree. I do believe work from home is actually a good idea for a lot of stuff.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
It's hard for me to sympathize with someone who started off making that much money with that kind of perks. Yeah, I don't know. Drunk money is bad. I don't even know what to say. The zero interest rate drunk money was really, really bad. It created this whole situation. And it's coming back, baby.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
It's about to ease up. And that won't fix it. That won't fix it right away. That's exactly where I'm going with this. I'm just going to use my drunk money analogy again. It's going to ease up. So are we going – are we – and I don't mean we. I mean let's be honest, the fancy VCs. Are we going to learn to moderate our trendy chase the new hotness habit?
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Well, they have – right. Exactly. You got it exactly right because we went from pensions to 401ks and Roth and regular IRAs. And this is – Mike and Chris teach why you really wanted a guaranteed benefit pension and not a 401k. But hey – Unless you own the company, then you definitely want the 401k or the Roth IRA.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
I don't remember which one is the most tax-advantaged one because you can defer your income tax and not pay high – especially if Democrats win – That's an opportune time to tax-free invest in your retirement, which lowers your taxable income that year, and you can stay below that ever-critical $105,000 mark. I don't know what it is.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
I know Trump changed the brackets, but there used to be a mark where $1 over your bracket changes, and you're in a lot of trouble.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
The problem is you can't go below zero, right? That was the wall. That was the corner they put themselves in. They went to zero. Zero is zero. Yeah.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
Which, honestly, is not crazy for us, for small businesses. That's a reasonable thing to do. I mean, I wouldn't go balls out. So, can I fry some alligator bacon? Please do.
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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again
In my local paper here, there was an article, a study, based on a study from a local university about, unfortunately, when we had Hurricane Betty, a lot of the sewers flooded up in Sarasota and other places, which is exactly what it sounds like.
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592: C++ Safety Dance
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
taking measures but nothing has been directed at this school particularly there's three or four schools within like two blocks of each other is why that matters but just like it's hard for me to describe this in polite terms but like ladies driving equinoxes or you know escalades which i live in a fancy area bang for blood as if they're caligula is something i did not think i would see in my lifetime
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Especially blood knowing it's a kid. We all know this is a kid. It's just which kid? So, I don't know. And maybe I've become too much of a softie. I don't know.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Oh, and does Oracle get a percentage of the speeding tickets? Yeah. Just saying.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
In a county over, an 11-year-old was perp walked and arrested because that sheriff also had the same experience. It was some kind of meme or something going around, some coordinated – I don't think it's like a conspiracy, but like something in the – just like in the air, right? Like a coordinated thing. It's a copycat type syndrome perhaps?
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Copycat because of what happened in Georgia a couple weeks ago or – yeah, a week and a half ago. And an 11-year-old did a similar thing. He claims to have been joking, right? The sheriff found him of that county, different county that I live in, and perp walked him the whole thing, booking, pat down, in the cage, the whole thing, on tape and put it on social media, which the kid is 11.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
I have many thoughts that would get us into political water here. I would lose a number of Republican points. It's too much in my opinion.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
AI Compliance LLC. Yeah, right. Delaware. I'm sorry, what were you saying?
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
This is terrible. The kid is stupid. He deserves to be punished. Publicly named. Oh, wow. Public video, parents named, terrible thing. The school in my district that my kids go to, they are now introducing mandatory backpack searches every day. Metal detectors. It reminds me a lot of the TSA or jail. Yeah. This is the last thing and then you can go. But the –
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
I mean, I feel like... This is basically creating a moat for the big boys, right?
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Right, right. So they'll never become big, right? What will happen is if they have anything interesting, their VCs will farm the Mac.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
It's amazing. One of the richest men in the world likes something that makes it expensive to do things.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
I'm not convinced it would slow down OpenAI. Actually, I think OpenAI mostly would benefit from this.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Well, one, I don't even think the people who wrote this law understand open source at all. It's not even something that comes on their radar. One, I think they've definitely bought into the hype. So they really think AI is going to put a bunch of people out of business or out of jobs, I should say.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
I really think in our political class, there is this wave that the social media platforms really did decide one of our recent elections. And I find that so hard to actually believe because its underlying premise is that people are that stupid, which I just can't buy. I reject the premise completely.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Because we have all these Facebook groups that are like the local – the parents, the school, whatever. That's like the community, right? The bang for blood of – granted, this kid is wrong and should definitely be punished for making these threats, right? He should absolutely be punished. But the just like Roman Colosseum level of bloodlust here is –
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
But if you believe that premise and you could put out an effectively infinite number of social media memes and posts to push people one way or the other, then yeah, maybe this makes sense to you. And I think that's really what it all comes back to.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Had there been no 2016 election, or at least had it gone the other way, I don't think we'd be seeing this level of, one, tech backlash and certainly AI regulation.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
What is the difference between me seeing on – I mean I'm old. I use Facebook. I know the kids don't use it anymore but whatever. Some crazy thing from Uncle Jimbo or me just like being in an airport bar waiting for my flight and talking to a guy who's somebody else's Uncle Jimbo and tells me something wacky he heard on some weird podcast, right?
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
I just – I can't believe that your average American or your average European or Asian or whatever, right? Like any country but a public education system of any salt whatsoever – would really fall for the kind of bulls**t that's obvious bulls**t that you see generated by AI.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
So wait, we've got academics, spies, generals, and a lawyer.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
from frankly soccer moms, is disturbing as hell to me. And the just willingness to turn school, which is hard for some kids, right? High school wasn't the best experience for me either. Just going to say I was a nerd. I hung out in the computer lab. Into a prison-like environment with security and metal detectors is wild. It's just crazy to me.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
That is the way it looks like the most silverback gorilla marketing tactic possible. I love it.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
You know, I just, okay, sure. That's my new motto. We're going to print up new robes. Let's just say, okay, sure.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
So basically we're going to comply with the EU. If we didn't have to do this, we wouldn't do it at all. We would just lock the shit down. But we're going to make it so bad that good luck.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
So one, aggressively spy on your kids, folks, because they may be joking. Like I got to say, that poor 11-year-old, again, he did a very bad thing in that other county. He probably was joking, right? Also, he's probably not capable of doing anything. But his life is – I mean this – he better change his name if they don't send him to juvie.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Yes, but they have solved the problem. If you define the problem as the CrowdStrike problem. Yes. Right. If you throw CrowdStrike out of the kernel, you have therefore solved that problem. Four score and seven boosts to go.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Yeah, I was having a few issues with RuboCop, specifically in RubyMine. I mean, this is, like, very specific, right? Yeah. I actually did reach out to Jet Brands, and they're kind of awesome in their support. Oh, good. I found most of the problem, but then something else propped up. So I'm checking it out. It seems to be a very, very specific issue.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
based on permissions access between file systems. And this is, so far in my usage of WSL, this has been kind of its Achilles heel when you have to cross the boundaries, which you probably want to, right? Like I'm using the Windows Ruby mind to work in Ruby on the Linux file system. And that's the right way to do it.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
So I will say this issue is such a dumb issue that it's very specific to the way RubyMine implements RuboCop suggestions. RuboCop, by the way, is a linter similar to, I don't know, like Flake or something like that in Python, where it tells you, your code is right, but, you know, geez, you should be using this syntax. It's more modern instead of your old-ass way of doing it.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Yeah, like if you open VS Code, I have no problems, which tells you kind of, again, one of the weaknesses of WSL is the tool's got to keep up. No one keeps up better with their own tooling than Microsoft.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
I am going to steal that phrase, sir. That is good. Also, I just want to say small talk does have a successor language. You may have heard of it. I want you to be objective about this and see the truth.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
See, the R data people are making so much money. Yeah. They really just, I mean, honestly.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
You know what? I will install GNU Step. Although it's still Objective-C, isn't it? Never mind. I forgot the name of the Smalltalk. Is it Pharaoh? Someone will correct us in the feedback. But there is a Smalltalk thing you can still run. pretty easily on Mac and Linux. I'm sure it runs on Windows too. And I will do a stupid Jar Jar thing in Smalltalk if Smalltalk can win.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Yeah. Just a reminder. Florida is as big as most of the United Kingdom.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Everybody thinks Florida is small because of the way it's usually rendered on U.S. maps. It is not small.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Oh, I mean it's like cancellation, but with actual legal weight behind it now. Yeah. Now, having said that, something – obviously these kids need help and to be punished, right? To be clear, I'm not super pinko comedy. Like, yeah, you do something. You make a threat. You're going to get the hammer. But maybe being a juvenile and in this case 11, you shouldn't be paraded publicly, right?
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Well, if you fly on a Super Saiyan alligator, it's much faster.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
There it is. Battery changes every two to three years. I was wondering how he did that. Okay.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Can I take a creepy diversion? Yeah. So my boy has decided to watch Minecraft videos on YouTube in my office, right? My home office. Sure. I've reluctantly let him. Google has figured out that likely if I open YouTube on my laptop, It's me. So it surfaces all like, you know, the political stuff I watch or big history buff, right? All that stuff. Some of the, you know, the gaming stuff.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
If it's in here, which I'm in my home office now, it's basically exclusively showing like kiddie YouTube stuff or kiddie, excuse me, kiddie Minecraft stuff. Fascinating. And it must be fingerprinting the device and saying, well, on this device, they watch this.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
I think the pre-order is down, right? I mean, we've seen historically since we've been doing this show that the biggest way to get to kind of juice iPhone sales is a new form factor.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
A significant difference in case, not just size. So that's got to be it. Also, I would say that there's not a lot that's really new here. I'm on a 14 Pro Max Shabangabang, whatever they call it. And I'm not upgrading because I don't need to. Right. I'm a techie. I do a tech podcast. So why would I imagine the normies out there? I just I don't see it.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
It seems like it's a pretty it's a pretty iterative product. Even I'm two generations behind and it doesn't seem that different. Right.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Well, so I think it does, right? So this is the problem, right? Everybody makes mistakes, but in particular, children make mistakes. That's kind of – we call that growing up. And can we be old men for just a minute? I feel like we are already. I was a huge nerd in high school, right? I got picked on. I had a hard time. And then one day, somebody said something – Gross about my mother.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Yeah, it just, it doesn't. Now, I'm hoping that the next iPhone has something. I mean, by that time, my battery will probably start being terrible.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
I would totally get a foldable. Yeah, because then it becomes like a small reading tablet too.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Go check out alice.dev and check out Linux Unplugged. I like this week's episode.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
I turned around and punched him in the face. I'm a little younger than you. So they took violence seriously back then. So I liked the cops game, but I was okay. Nothing really happened. The cops were like, this is stupid. It's a fist fight. To me, that is part of growing up, right? Boys in particular, they get in fights. They insult each other. They do aggressive things to each other.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
They say aggressive things to each other. And it's bad behavior, no doubt. But is it – I mean how did we get from Chris made fun of Mike or Mike made fun of Chris and somebody ended up with a bloody lip, which is all it used to be. I mean I'm sure maybe – I don't know if you directly have this experience. But boys got in fights and surely in your school as well.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
I think the maximum I ever saw was like a bloody lip. And when I say ever saw, that was me. So that I did that. So I get the fear, but we've become so – And this ties into the Larry Ellison thing and it ties into the open AI safety thing where I'm actually on Sam Altman's side for a change.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Get out of there. Well, so I don't know if you know that Florida is crazy. I've heard, you know, tons, tons of our schools have had shooting or otherwise violent threats since Friday. Oh, like just since Friday? Since Friday. Yeah, tons. Like it was – my little town here was like lockdown mode. What's happened in the last few days? Do you know?
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
So scared of these kids getting like a little pinprick, we act like it's a sword through the chest when I think we haven't let them – and again, I'm going to say in particular boys and I know I'm going to get shit for this. But like boys, especially going through their changes right through puberty, there's an amount of aggression that they need to learn to either –
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
You know, suppress, control, or just, you know, handle, right? Your hormones are on overdrive. You can't even like get a shouting argument now without getting suspended. And God forbid you say a naughty word during that argument.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
and now it's, oh, there's therapists, there's this, there's that, when now they're killing each other, or they're threatening to, or they're sitting in a dark room because they never leave their house, posting, frankly, insane things online, which leads to a huge expense for the people of the county, and I think a wild overreaction of the community. And I understand the fear, right?
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
What happened in Uvalde, what happened in Georgia, terrible. But the only thing that – the prof would blame social media, and I think that is a part of it. But we also changed how we handle – I'm not going to – I don't want to get us explicit tracked, but let's say two boys in middle school say, F you, F your mother, right? Oh, you get in trouble for that. Even back in our day, right, Chris?
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
You got in trouble for that. Let's say somebody – boy B shoves boy A. You get in trouble. Now the police are there. There's anger management. There's therapy. It's – It's overboard.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
And we've created the situation where these kids now, instead of just getting in the shoving match or the fist fight or the shouting match, they go to crazy online threats that given the very few that do these kind of things. I mean, I understand why the sheriff's department, especially like this kid in my district, taunting the sheriff is very stupid. Right.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
It's it's this man's mission now to get you. and he's elected, I would say, and so is the DA, and so are all the judges. So when they catch this kid, which they will, I have a feeling if he's old enough, he'll be looking at some, shall we say, older gentlemen in prison that might want to teach him a few things that he probably doesn't want to learn.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
What's going – I mean – The one nearest to me where one of my stepkids goes to school and it's the same district as my youngest is a kid went on the internet, posted a threat that he intended to shoot the school up, right? Yeah.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
I mean he's just – he's so clearly a carpetbagger in this situation.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
That's like the crazy people who say an armed society is a polite society. Yeah, because somebody tailgating you should end in a gunfight.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
It's the liberal version of that, right, where the conservative one is have all the guns.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
I could totally see that, right? Yeah. I mean, I go back way into the past with this. When I was in, let's call it middle school or high school, I had a couple – I knew them, right? It was a smaller town up north. They weren't bad per se, boys, but they were a little hyper, right? They liked to do – they were – very traditional school I went to, right?
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
So sitting in rows and sitting there for hours on end and being told what to do and yes, ma'am, yes, sir was not exactly – Their wheelhouse. And then a magic little pill called Ritalin came along. See, I think the problem is you and I are old enough to remember what this was like before. And people just actually dealt with the kids and taught them how to control themselves naturally. Yeah.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
They don't like that. Right. Of course not. Right. Correctly, they respond pretty aggressively. Well, as the sheriff's department is clearing the school, this person decides, I'm assuming it's a boy. That he is going to follow the media, the social media, the local news, and taunt the school and the sheriff. Oh, man. You're kidding me. Very poor decision. Yeah.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Well, you kind of do, right? They give you like – they've always done that. They give you notes. I mean – but yeah, you're talking about – That's what I'm saying. You're talking about like act like on their device as spying.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Yeah, so I think that could actually happen. My big concern with this particular case down here and all of them down here, but I think a lot of states are like this. In Florida, like I said, the sheriff is elected in every county. The judges are all elected. And the DA is elected.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
No one who is running for election wants to be the guy that believed a kid who made a stupid Facebook post or Snap or whatever the kids use now or TikTok, right? And said, I'm going to give this kid a break and just force him to go to therapy or something like that instead of charging him criminally. No one wants to be that dude.
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Because your opponent in the next election, I mean, the ads write themselves, right? I could see the local Tampa Bay CBS and Fox stations running them day in, day out. So what they're going to do and what they've been doing is treating children like they are Osama bin Laden. And that's pretty bad. And I know people are going to be like, well, if it was your – but like it was my kids, right?
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588: Hulk Smash “PUNY DEVS”
Like it was the schools my kids go to. I don't – I'm not happy that this happened. The only reason I'm making this a public thing is because the wildness of the overreaction. And don't get me wrong. I got very little work done. I was nervous as a cat. I was texting my stepdaughter. I checked my son's school's page. They said we're not – we're locked – we're –
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600: Mikestrodamus
Okay. All right. So, you know, Chris, my internet service provider only charges me $95 a month.
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600: Mikestrodamus
But it's the most annoying one I use because it constantly requires me to reauthenticate. I'm like, it's show notes. I don't care. Yeah. Yeah. Like I care, but it's not like there's going to be like, you know, private keys to it. Like there's nothing secret in the show notes.
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600: Mikestrodamus
It's not substantially better. I mean, I totally disagree. Just, like, get better bandwidth, man. Oh, wrong answer?
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600: Mikestrodamus
Oh, no. But I am going to be paying more effective Thursday. I'm sorry, Friday. Friday. Okay. Tell me why. Because I'm going up to 5x5 gigabytes.
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600: Mikestrodamus
I called them. The lady was like, well, you don't really need this. I said, yeah, but there's this guy. Okay. Yeah. I need to really nuke him for more. But now they had a seven by seven. What was that? Was that like 200 bucks a month? Was that too much? No, I'm using it for episode 700. Obviously, seven by seven. I see. Let me tell you something. All right. Kidding aside.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Brandon. Ooh, can I do this one? This is like my favorite. Yeah. So it's called a zero to no or low to zero interest rate drunk fed money. And if you read, I think it was Y Combinator put it out to their founders, their letter warning about the future. What happened is a lot of capital just went to, they basically had to find yield, right?
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600: Mikestrodamus
So they went to things like VC funds and all kinds of more speculative crap. Well, now the interest rates are going up. Those VCs are going to find it harder and harder to raise rounds, which means by extension, startups will find it harder, right? It's going to become more expensive to borrow all kinds of money.
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600: Mikestrodamus
But in tech specifically, you are going to see, and I'll stand by this one, a bloodbath of startups collapsing and laying folks off.
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600: Mikestrodamus
I just backed out of an office space deal myself for that reason. I don't want the liability on the books because landlords are very prone to sue.
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600: Mikestrodamus
No, we're talking about like the app to put a mustache on your snake. Yes, that's a Silicon Valley reference.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Yeah, but what that does is it makes you and me and Chris and everybody else listening de facto poorer because even though we might still make – I don't know what you make, whatever you make. Let's call it $70,000. Your $70,000 doesn't go as far as it used to because things went up 10%, 15%.
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600: Mikestrodamus
So I get off the phone call. Do you know which percentage of the time on the telephone was spent me buying the actual service that I want? Oh, I bet 10% or something like that. Okay. Okay. Sweet lady. Nice lady. I'm not bashing her. What was she trying to do on the rest of the call? Just get your information. What? Nope. Sell me f***ing Norton antivirus. What year is it? No. Yes.
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600: Mikestrodamus
I think it would be remiss if we don't mention that there is one giant, literally donkey, who might try to encourage the Fed not to do what you described. Because historically, when the Fed does this, the party in power, this is all Americans, sorry, European folks, gets eviscerated at the polls. And we do have an election coming up.
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600: Mikestrodamus
And if the Fed does what Chris describes, which they probably have to, all these social issues that everybody's fighting about aren't going to matter. The Democrats are going to get eviscerated. Wow.
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600: Mikestrodamus
And maybe, you know, the election happened, right? Yeah. Yeah. The election happened.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Got whacked. What did people vote on? Not on, you know, whatever social issues or identity stuff they voted on. Hey, food is kind of expensive. And that's bad.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Why are we not getting 5% at least? Just a hedge fund to see. Come on.
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600: Mikestrodamus
I guess we're doing a Stargate theme. It's like one of those Stargates where the gate messes up and you go back in time instead of space. I was like, Norton. I said, I'm on an Apple. Oh, and apparently Norton has Apple products too now.
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600: Mikestrodamus
I have so many questions. So, one, who are these users that you've sampled? Not you, personally.
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600: Mikestrodamus
I kind of think it's mostly bull. I don't know. No? All right. So, like, I just upgraded my iPhone. Oh, you got the 16? Yeah.
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600: Mikestrodamus
uh no i have yeah because i destroyed my other one uh just in time for the warranty have you tried any of the apple intelligence stuff i sure have okay uh i love so i made the mistake of putting my personal cell phone number on my company's website which i think is still there because nobody listens to me that's what i tell them to do uh it better be down but i'm gonna check right after the show uh and what uh has been happening is apparently there's a bunch of uh
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600: Mikestrodamus
I mean, there's no nice way to say this. Just really sleazy salespeople that just farm phone numbers. So I've had to put my phone on do not disturb basically all day long and then call people back.
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600: Mikestrodamus
apple intelligence has a mode where it kind of like it figures out like i've got a client you know named mike i've got another one named dan and it figures out if it's them let it through right because i always respond i always text back or i call or whatever um if it's dave i always you know it always lets it through because i did it figure this out on its own yeah just by my usage patterns
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600: Mikestrodamus
That's just a standard machine learning, though, really, isn't it? Well, that is not my most loved feature. The summarizing messages has been amazing.
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600: Mikestrodamus
I love it. Because sometimes you get a text message... Now, I haven't... We don't have that many outages, but if... whatever, like an Alice instance goes out or something, I want to know that immediately, right? So I want to get it back up. But if it's just like, hey, give me a call when you get a chance, well, I'll call you when I can. So, yeah, I'm loving it. I don't know.
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600: Mikestrodamus
I hate the writing tools. See, this is my thing. The writing tools... These are like the most HR-driven fake emails or fake text messages back you could ever get. I would be embarrassed to send somebody something like that because it doesn't seem like it's from a person. Well, because it's not, right?
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600: Mikestrodamus
What if you're writing to Rust developers and you make this 100 times meaner?
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600: Mikestrodamus
What I thought was – Throw in some of your mama jokes while you're at it.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Okay. But the fact that you keep adding me into photos where I assassinate Kennedy from the grassy knoll. Has been awesome. Problematic for me. Okay.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Yeah. Why is the crooked media team camping out in my front lawn right now being like truth for JFK?
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600: Mikestrodamus
All right, you know what? I'm not throwing shade at RFK Jr. I listened to eight hours of RFK Jr. about Red 40 and Yellow No. 5, and I'm throwing a bunch of shit at that.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Wait, wait, Chad Jippity? You're going to just get away with that? Chad Jippity. Chad Jippity. You know what, Sam? You should trademark that right now.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Although, I'll give this lady credit. She said, oh, well, 5x5. She's like, yeah, we have the service. She said, so, are you running Apache systems? You know what? Just for knowing the name Apache. Was she port scanning you?
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600: Mikestrodamus
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Then how do people know that we're really us and not AI replicants?
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600: Mikestrodamus
Well, I definitely wouldn't put that we went to System76 and Carl Rachel murdered us personally. Accusing him of murder right now. and used our blood to cool his new Thaleo Astra. This is not an ad. I just, you know, I do weep for our former carbon-based brothers. This is Mike AI, and that's Chris AI. And again, Carl Richel murdered us for his wonderful ARM64-powered Astra Thaleo desktop.
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600: Mikestrodamus
That little slip in my speech was because he's trying to hack me right now. It could be worth it. It could be worth it. It's a pretty fast machine, just saying. Again, Carl, if you want to pay us for ads, you know, stop killing us.
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600: Mikestrodamus
I think they should conquer not just Mission Control. Mission Control should conquer Operation Control, System Control. You got any other controls we could knock them out? Sure. Let's do it.
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600: Mikestrodamus
So, Eric, I like your boost. Thank you. I just have, like, one problem with it. Why you got to mention Swift? We don't talk about that. He earned it. He earned it. He paid to make me sad.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Yes. You think I was going to let you get away with episode 600 and not mention robes?
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600: Mikestrodamus
You knew I was going to do it. You should have just... Fair enough. I got to tell you something. I still have my OG, the first run Coder Radio robe, and that is so comfortable. We need more robes. Yeah. Boost in if you want more robes and to help me harass Chris. Also, the Coder Radio tumbler, it doesn't matter how much Hendrix you have in it.
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600: Mikestrodamus
You knock that over on your MacBook Pro, you don't destroy the computer. Yeah.
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600: Mikestrodamus
No, they were. She's like, so, actually, it's so funny you say that. She said, I see the account paying for your account is in the corporation's name. I'm like, yep. Okay. Okay.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Tim Cook called me. He's like, I sent you a case of gin and three new MacBooks. You got to test them out for durability. I'm like, I got my Coder Radio Tumblr. They're not going to get a drop.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Oh, no, no, no. So Nostromo writes in. Yeah, 20,000 sats. You're doing a good job.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Yeah, but I'm usually playing Civ 6 with Henry Kissinger and Dick Cheney.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Yeah, I got to tell you, it's going to be tough four years for Sammy boy there, I think. Yeah, he did just kick in a million bucks to Trump's inauguration fund. Whoa, whoa, hang on. Of course. Listen, the Big Macs and chicken nuggets on Trump's plane are frankly the best. Well, and they don't come free. Somebody's got to pay for it. Even RFK Jr. is eating them now.
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600: Mikestrodamus
hmm yeah so i ended up with five static ips too oh oh man dang you could set up a little data center who says i'm not there you go it's all gonna serve jar jar binks memes sure yeah nobody else will so somebody's got to do it yeah see yeah i don't know why you're like that but chris 600 episodes oh man congratulations dude that's pretty awesome congratulations to you of fully bad advice
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600: Mikestrodamus
It doesn't seem to work. Well, do I have a solution for you? Go ahead and write sales at themadbotter.com or, you know, just go to alice.dev. Also, Chris suppressed. He censored you. You sent in two notes. Oh, I did? Oh, you're right. Oh, God. Oh, I missed that.
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600: Mikestrodamus
You're supposed to. Go ahead. Go on, let's go. Suck on some Jar Jar Sats. Notice which one he misses. I did.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Today's Coder Radio is brought to you by the little bulls**t. All right, I sucked on those sats.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Real-world question, Chris, on the boosts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do they have to use Fountain to set the profile? If they're using Fountain to boost. Okay, but what if, can they do it on the web and have a profile name instead of like user three, seven, whatever?
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600: Mikestrodamus
I think you should change your username, though, to TheCoderProf. That would be good. Or, ready? GunganProf. CodeProf? Something Jar Jar related. GunganCodeProf? That's very long, though.
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600: Mikestrodamus
See, me and Wes had a long Pydantic, not a joke, it's a real Python library, conversation last night. We should monetize that. We should, like, print T-shirts of me and Wes going back and forth on Python libraries. Yeah.
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600: Mikestrodamus
It was me, you jackass. I don't remember. Oh, yeah. Chris is like, I've been using this forever. I love it. I love it. You see, the boss takes over. See what happens? Yeah.
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600: Mikestrodamus
The real power of this, although he's right that there is a website you could just do that with...
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600: Mikestrodamus
is it's just a pip package right or poetry if you prefer yes yeah yeah you can run this locally so if you don't want to share your documents with some weird third party or cloud vendor or hell microsoft themselves you run this baby on your local computer your own server your hell i i shouldn't say this i'm running on a bunch of raspberry pis
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600: Mikestrodamus
I will dunk on it a little. So the OCR on images is pretty... Not so good? Yeah. It's not great. I think we have a lot of dark matter devs, right? A lot of things end up as Excel files. Yeah. It's just... God damn it.
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600: Mikestrodamus
You know what, Chris? You know what? They expect the Jar Jar, but you know what they're getting?
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600: Mikestrodamus
Well, Markdown's smaller, and it's – so this library doesn't do it, and I might be giving away a little bit of secret sauce I'm doing for somebody. But Markdown is effectively a universal data format. So you can go back from Markdown to, let's say, Excel or let's say a structured database or, you know, if you really want to get fancy presentation, write a PowerPoint presentation.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Well, it's an open. I mean, kidding aside, it's an open data format that anybody can use and there's no licensing encumbrance. So.
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600: Mikestrodamus
And Scott Guthrie is ready to help you. I don't even know if Scott Guthrie actually does the stuff at Microsoft right now.
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600: Mikestrodamus
You could go to alice.dev or, because it's the holidays, why don't you enjoy some Babylon 5? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Well, I mean, obviously, you got to go with the one with Mr. Freeze. I think it's season two, episode three, if I'm not mistaken. It's called the Shadow War. Mr. Freeze, who is a, what do they call them? Oh my God, Shadow Mage, something like that, explains to the humans that like, yeah, we're all going to die soon. Because aliens. Yeah. Also, never trust a Centauri.
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600: Mikestrodamus
I mean, I'm pretty sure Captain Picard doesn't feel it was a great holiday experience. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
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600: Mikestrodamus
So a quarter radio bet here. Yeah. We're going to take one week off. Something major is going to happen.
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600: Mikestrodamus
I think Sam Altman, and this is my bet, Sam Altman and Elon go into the octagon to settle the differences.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Chevron 600 is a lock, baby. Stargate all the way. Although, as is performed, we did not check if the dial home device was operable on the other side. So everybody dies at the end.
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600: Mikestrodamus
I mean, you and I, Chris, I hope you're not offended. You and I are kind of more portly fellows. We're bigger dudes. Yeah, yeah. So I think Elon is a brother in this as well. So maybe Elon's dressed like Santa Claus, and Sam Altman, let's be honest, that man is either the Heatmiser or an elf.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Well, elves can be vampires too, right? So he could be a dark elf for all our Baldur's Gate 3 players out there. Yeah. I'm sure I'm wrong on the lore. I think – and somebody please send me D&D. I think there is like vampire elves, right? It's a thing. I'm going to say yes. I mean now how he's going to make up that – what is it now? Like $17 million? Oh, yeah. There's a – oh, yeah.
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600: Mikestrodamus
And also the other big feature they're pushing in VS 2022, the kind of AI code assistant thing. I don't like GitHub CodePilot. I don't want that built into my editor. I have lots of concerns about potential license violations if they regurgitate GPL code.
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600: Mikestrodamus
It's just not the kind of thing I would rather just better IntelliSense via, you know, semantic, just like the normal semantic crap that all these code completion things have been using forever. Not AI scanning open GitHub repos. That's my soapbox. I know people are excited about it.
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600: Mikestrodamus
We haven't talked about that in a while. Well, I think they kind of fixed it, right? Yeah, yeah. And also, I think not using something like CodePilot at this point is actually putting you and, frankly, your clients or customers at a disadvantage. Ooh, I like this hot take. All right, so I wasn't going to do anything new today, but I guess I'll share something new.
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600: Mikestrodamus
My main use for Copilot and my $200 chat GPT sub is asking it for libraries that are the correct licenses that do things I need to do. Oh, interesting. Yeah. it is far more efficient than I could ever be searching GitHub. Huh. Yeah.
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600: Mikestrodamus
It's a very boring use, but it actually saves me a ton of time because usually it gives you the library, then it produces like a sample of like, if you want to integrate this with, you know, FastAPI, because I told it I use FastAPI.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Chris, if you and I keep making nice with the natives, our child support bills are going to be astronomical. We've got to stop with the natives. Yeah, especially those intergalactic fees they put on those. Oh, my God. This is why Bitcoin needs to be a thing, just to avoid those transit fees. Right.
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600: Mikestrodamus
Yeah, I thought it was like a dumb toy. We did it. Honestly, it was one of our little, okay, we need content. Let's just throw it in.
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600: Mikestrodamus
I sort of feel like this is either one of those things that I'm just going to completely be wrong about. I don't get it. I get the concept, but everybody that I follow and that follows me or whatever on Twitter is all pissed off about this. I don't understand why. It's a kind of bad idea that isn't working super well. And there may be some licensing issues. I don't know. I'm not an attorney.
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600: Mikestrodamus
I personally don't understand how there could be. But like, oh, it reproduced a stupid bad code. Well, yeah, it's just regurgitating code that's public available on GitHub. What idiot would copy pasta code from GitHub or Stack Overflow? Every developer ever is the right answer to that question. But we all pretend like we don't. So like, I don't know. Is it, I mean, could it be useful? Maybe.
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600: Mikestrodamus
I don't. Honestly, I did not install it. So this is one of those things like maybe I'm completely missing the boat. I mean, my judgment's been so good with Windows 8 and Metro.
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600: Mikestrodamus
And I'm flying with my drunken robotic friend. You signed up. You actually signed up. I paid for a year. And this is the dumbest pair programming partner I've ever had.
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600: Mikestrodamus
My stepdaughter is agency. She's 14. And she introduced me to the phrase YOLO. And you know what? If there's anything that. Our friend Alex, listening to all the Coder Radios, might learn. I seem to, without saying it, be very YOLO. And you know what? I wanted to see how good this Codepilot is. Let me tell you something. It's pretty f***ing bad. Really? Is it pretty? Is it like dumb?
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600: Mikestrodamus
Just like bad code? It's like the drunkest junior developer I've ever met. And let me tell you something. Having been a very drunk junior developer myself in the past, I don't understand what I paid for.
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600: Mikestrodamus
No, because the only thing I'm using it for is a video game I'm running for my son. Well, I can't say video game. It's a Minecraft mod because my son has very sadly picked up the Pokemon problem, but he wasn't happy with just regular drugs. He had to go to fentanyl. And when I say fentanyl, I mean Minecraft. Yeah, boy, that is. That is the good stuff. And now he wants to code some mods.
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600: Mikestrodamus
That's bullshit too. But yeah, it's gotten better. You know what the worst part of that clip was for me? What? My son just told me that my Visual Studio code theme sucks because it's been three years, and he's exploring his own for his Python-powered Minecraft mods. You really need your own dedicated environment for that kind of thing. You know what I gave him? Carl will be happy. What's that?
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600: Mikestrodamus
That's a good kid machine. Sure, absolutely. Good kid machine. 16 gigs of RAM. It's a couple years old, but AMD processor. Makes it nice and easy. Remember, if you only care about Minecraft for some weird... Children, I don't get it. I didn't get it three years ago when that clip was recorded. I still don't get it. It's Legos. But you know what?
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600: Mikestrodamus
My kid is like... Okay, so... I'm taking a tangent here. We're solidly, right?
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600: Mikestrodamus
yeah you know you worry about your son on the internet right he's got a web browser um because i want to torture him i'm making him use firefox sure good good yeah it's also the default on uh oh also side side though uh the poor bastard is not on cosmic because this machine is that old and it's an lts so he's got another year to go
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600: Mikestrodamus
Oh, well, I thought we weren't going to talk about that because I didn't want to hurt your feelings.
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600: Mikestrodamus
okay but i do you want to do the upgrades no no no no i look i'm like he's in firefox what's he doing he's on pi pi looking at different minecraft powered python packages that is rad wow My man, like he's going to be nine years old in a few months. I think he sleeps and when he snores, he says PIP3 install.
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600: Mikestrodamus
On episode 600? Well, fine. I'll nuke your feelings. I'll nuke it from orbit. Let's do it.
Coder Radio
591: FOSS does what Nintendont
Also, first of all, I have tremendous faith in our audience's ability to do all kinds of hacking. So I guarantee you, not only could they do it, Chinese government, if you're looking to hire somebody, the Coder Radio audience, you couldn't find better people.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
You know, if you're a troll and you're listening to this next week, you got to go in the jobs chat and have like a panda bear with a red flag being like, hello, Coder Radio people. Yeah, there you go. No, it's, it just, okay, so I can, I briefly did a contract for one of the telcos. It was a stupid thing, but it was a stupid mobile thing for them.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
And the level of we're not changing anything or updating anything unless we're getting paid for it is strong with these guys.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
Well, and it's also a cost center for them. Oh, for sure. So their incentive is to be like, oh, we have to comply with the stupid government thing. Let's just like give them an open thing so they can look themselves, which is how it works. Yeah. Right.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
So I'm just, you know, it's really this is one of those cases where whoever decided this was a good idea either didn't understand technology enough to know what would happen, which seems super likely. I'm going to assume incompetence or didn't care.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
Well, that's true. 30 years ago, the risk would have been more like physical security. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Like the AT&T guy gets blackmailed and goes in and steals the data. I mean, that would be.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
Yeah. Most of that is basically the read any – you're an entrepreneur, but you don't know how to do sales because you're like a – well, a developer, right? This is how you do sales. Of course you want to focus on your enthusiastic early adopters who took a risk on you when nobody else did. Of course focusing on one niche, right? That's basically what he's saying by focusing down.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
It's the only way if you're a small shop because you don't have the resources to go wide and it doesn't make sense to do it anyway. Focusing on a geographical area, I could see how that would make sense because, again, you have limited wood to put behind the arrows. The only one I thought was a little weird is you won't attend a conference that you're not a speaker at.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
That's like, yeah, all right. That's kind of like, do you know who I am? I don't know. I don't think that is necessarily true.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
I mean, I don't know how I feel about that from a practical perspective, because if you want to really manage a properly manage an open source project, that's a lot of work. And you're you're unless it's something like really fundamental, like you're the guy who invented jQuery, your ROI. I just don't think it's going to be there.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
It can be a piece of your product. Or you could be like, you know, insert project here. We'll just use our pals at Docker as an example. Open source your product and have Amazon capture a bunch of the value.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
I can give another example, MongoDB, right? MongoDB will love to sell you Mongo enterprise stuff, right? But how many people just using MongoDB and their node app are actually even like in the ballpark of being Mongo enterprise customers? I would say 0.01% maybe.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
I would argue in many cases there that just won't be a thing.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
Yeah, this is a misunderstanding of how open source generally works. One, I mean, if you're able to market your open source product such that it's generating sales for you, I would argue that your energy would have been better spent just marketing your core product because you're really good at marketing and sales.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
They may not know. Yeah. Right. That's that's a great point. The person developing the end application may be pulling some other, I don't know, NPM library that pulls another one that pulls yours and have no idea who the hell you are.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
Wes is right. He's in the chat saying this sounds like LinkedIn lunatics more and more. This is the kind of crap you get like somebody's LinkedIn article post.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
You still have to develop the entire open source utility.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
We could do a segment. This is the – you know, I've been getting some real whoppers. I shit you not. So this is – we're doing a double because of Hurricane Milton today. I know I'm breaking the illusion. Someone had the balls to send me an email trying to get me to buy their offshore development services, which is a thing I don't do. What kind of – what's the pitch there? What's the – Oh, no.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
Are you ready? Here you go. Dear Mr. Dominic, I want to extend my deepest sympathy. Not sympathy. It's just sympathy. But fine. You know, I'll take it. It's a minor. Uh, to you and your family and the whole firm at Mad Botter. Cool. I want to know that I'm happy to help my firm offers. And it's just the normal list of like, here's our $20 an hour offshore or whatever it is, uh, development rates.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
Um, I hit the spam button with a sledgehammer. I couldn't take it. That's some scummy stuff right there. And I am sure that's regular email. So this person took the time to get my email. I guarantee you, and I know they don't listen to the show because they spelled Dominic wrong and they spelled Mad Bonner wrong. But my LinkedIn messages...
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
are going to be – if this is the new tactic, whatever scummy sales tactic is the new thing, I keep getting it. I don't know. I'm just pitching in, Moni, but leveraging a natural disaster that puts people's families in harm's way as – That's a certain kind of cynical.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
You watched Wall Street and were like, Gordon Gekko makes a ton of sense to me. I don't understand what the deal is with this movie. Yeah.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
It's online mostly. I have the generator. We talked about this just two weeks ago when there was another game. I have my Verizon Jump thing. They don't call it Jump anymore. It's like a MiFi, but a hotspot. I know what you mean. The first one I bought was called Isis, hilariously. Yeah, I remember that. They quickly changed that. Yes.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
So I'm kind of like prepared, but I could see like I'm sure I'm not the only one who got this email. Right. I bet there's a couple of people who got it like that want to throttle this guy.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
So this is Mike's scumbag of the week. It should be a new segment.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
You know, but just don't send emails trying to sell things with natural disasters. And then go to alice.dev if you're experiencing a great day where we can help with your ETL and automation needs.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
And usually, and I remember we had to throw one out because the audio was so good. Yeah, it happens. That happens too. That's why we don't do guests. Yeah.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
So, yeah, it's kind of a tough thing, right? I mean, I agree with everything you're saying about backups and historical, you know, keeping the history of these games. I would also add, just as an aside, this problem of keeping the history of these games and like preserving them.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
is there's actually a much worse problem and that's all that all these games are now live service games yeah service is turned off the game your disc or your digital copy or whatever you have is effectively you know broke right your DVD or blu-ray is a is a coaster
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
Going to make that hard. Yeah. I can't say that I 100% agree with Nintendo's hyper-aggressive actions and, frankly, you know, Godfather-style tactics here.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
I definitely see it with the switch. And I also like it. It's nice to talk about the historical preservation stuff. I would be willing to bet if somehow you did a real investigation, it's the vast majority of it's just piracy. It's gotta be right. It's gotta be just people who want to not pay for the games.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
Oh, for sure. For sure. So, you know, I don't know. It's one of the – if you're doing one of these projects – You know, this isn't like a new development, right? Nintendo has been, I mean, Nintendo didn't want people to post YouTube reviews of their games.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
Put a tiny little machine in there. No, because $14.99 a month is more money. And if you want access to those games, you're paying it in perpetuity.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
And also it looks better for the markets because the way they – I mean this is wild, right? This is like inside baseball. But generally the way that revenue is valued for valuations, recurring revenue is better.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
I mean, I can tell you what the other side is going to say. What? I'd love to try to steel man this. I'll steel man it. The next time, first of all, we'll do our normal joke. Think of the children.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
Or election interference. Yeah, I think they'll go with the terrorism stuff first, but yeah. We talk about this all the time. Every couple months this comes up, right? If your goal, if your stated aim is to prevent all crime, right, you're going to have this stuff and it's going to cause all kinds of trouble.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
Well, police have been policing since Grog, the third caveman, was like, hey, we need one of us to stop the other cavemen from stealing things and attacking the women and children or whatever. Even back then, there were cave paintings that said, think of the children, I bet, right? So it's bull, right?
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
Police used to be able to do policing without all this technical wizardry and constant surveillance. And you know what they had to do instead of relying on technology? And same thing for civil cases, like, oh, I have the text messages. You actually have to do some detective work, right?
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
You have to actually gather evidence, interview witnesses, and not just, you know, get a couple of keystrokes and say, well, you put this, especially if you look at places like our good friends in the UK, who were now like, you know, that angry drunk text you sent might now be a felony. It's really, that is a thing that happens in the UK. Yeah. I hate all of this. This was bound to happen.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
The worst part is this was happening apparently for a long time, and you're just hearing about it now.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
If I'm a Chinese spook here... Because none of this is anonymized, right? So you could just go through and find particular people you'd like to put pressure on. Like, hey, Mr. Executive at a company that has valuable IP we'd like to, you know, research we'd like to exploit. So that's a pretty cute college girl you got there that you see every other week. Be a shame if your wife found out. Sure.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
Much like, or hell, you're Nintendo, right? What an interesting GitHub project you were texting about.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
I've gotten to the point where maybe this is just like, you know what? The cops were able to do their job before. The feds were able to do their jobs before. I think everything – they should write a law. There should be a regulation here. The regulation is end-to-end encryption becomes mandatory. Right. And no one can get to it.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
And then there will be risk and there will be cases and you will have, you know, pearls being clutched. But it's better than how many years was this going on? How much data, sensitive data, right? Personal stuff. Maybe you're a military officer and you're secretly gay. How many of these do we even find out about? Right. The case I just made happened.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
The government, Sisyphus, I always say wrong, stopped Grindr from selling itself to foreign investors because they're like, look, man, you could say whatever. This is like 2022. But that is a blackmail vector. So, this is terrible. This is why the backdoors should not only not exist, it should be illegal, everything should be end-to-end encrypted.
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591: FOSS does what Nintendont
And we just, we have to go back to understanding that you can't, it's like if you live in Florida, right? You want to create a hole in your house to get a better breeze. Great, but the snakes and the gators can get in there too.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Well, that's what it felt like, right? It felt like they had to have an AI story. And we talked about this in our DubDub episode, too. And right now, whether this makes a whole lot of sense or not, Wall Street analysts want you to be talking about AI. So this is very, we're, you know, this is very, we're in the beanie babies, right? We're in the fad.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
That's not to say all AI is fake or anything like that, but. It's pretty clear that Apple threw this together pretty recently, right? As we record, this is the day after the event, their stock's down. Right. I don't really have much on this topic. I feel like if you want a phone, get a phone. But there's nothing earth-shattering in these.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
I do feel like if you want to fry the bacon, the Cupertino Apple Smoked Bacon... What really, in my opinion, happened here is they had a whole multi-year AR roadmap laid out.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
That's why the cameras and the pros are so balling, right? It was going to be that the iPhone Pro is now your content creation device for the Apple Vision Pro. Yes. And la-di-la-di-la. Well, that fell right on its face. And they had to do a hard pivot for Wall Street. They had to do a hard pivot because Sam Altman came out and, you know, kind of repositioned OpenAI as a...
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Though technically not a commercial company at the moment, it's still owned by the nonprofit. There's lots of whispers that there's going to be some chicanery to change that. And that, you know, like you said, it basically put a bee in Wall Street's bonnet, and they needed a story about AI. So they made this weird partnership with ChatGPT, which is really not a whole lot, right?
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
And they're doing Apple AI, okay. But they're not doing anything. I mean, it's a little weird, too, right? You could think they're the platform vendor, and one of the biggest complaints of iOS power users is how siloed apps are.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
The obvious but perhaps like really technically challenging thing with even their own internal architecture thing for them to do would be to basically make, I think they call it workflows on iOS now. You can like have apps like, you know, basically Unix pipes, right? Pipe data to one each other. Have Siri be able to just do that.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
For instance, I got the Overcast update and for about a week I was very unhappy with it because it kept crashing and I listened to a lot of podcasts.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
It feels like ADA bait, right? That's what that was. The ADA stands for Apple Design Awards for folks who didn't spend a decade doing iOS development. And it would have been very nice to say, hey, Siri, get the data, the OPL file, the OPL file from Overcast and shunt it to like, I don't know, Pocket Cast or something.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Or Fountain, I guess, or whatever. Yeah, there you go. The problem is, one, Overcast took out the ability to export the OPNL file, which I feel like that wasn't a lot of code. And I kind of feel like, hmm, you took this out when you were launching what you probably knew was an unstable update. It's a very Mike Dominic move. I got to give it to you, Marco. That's something I would do. I mean...
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Yeah, I mean, this will be in court for 10 years if they actually go for the breakup, right?
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
I mean, make you be patient. Because it's obviously fixed now, right? I'm still using it day to day. I'm a premium customer. But the first week, week and a half, two weeks was pretty touching. Yeah. So still a good app. If you are looking for an iOS podcast app and you don't want to do whatever, it's fine.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
it it it would have been great for siri to be able to handle that kind of thing for me what a dream yeah apple just really feels that those walls around each individual app silo have to be manned by snipers and with a gator filled moat straight from tallahassee so i don't i guess we can't have that but yeah i i feel like the it's like it is a big story but it's only big because of how like where's the beef right there's nothing there's no there there this one
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Yeah, it's a level of, I think maybe calling it vapor is a little too spicy, but I'll call it vapor.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
I mean, you know, all roads lead to what to investor relations here.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
But, Chris, those colors are pretty on the non-Pro version. Yeah. Nice job with the case.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Yeah, I mean, I could see me, of all the things they announced, I might pick up, or I think I'm pretty likely to pick up, is I'm running Gen 1 AirPods, and I use them all the time. Yeah, yeah. Again, for my podcasts, such as Linux Unplugged.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
I know, but it feels... The only thing that I think is a little unnecessarily Tim Cookie about these AirPods... $50 for noise canceling on the same line? I mean, come on.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
I don't know. I just... I wonder if... Like, I also have a pair of the AirPod Max, and I used to use them more... I mean, they're fine, right? I will agree, like, for over-the-head headphones, they're probably the best ones I have. Good for music. Really great. Right. But the reality is, I usually have, like, one AirPod of, like, the, you know, Gen 1 in because I'm...
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
I see. Well, my stepdaughter went through a gossip girl phase, so then you put both AirPods. Maybe I will get the active noise canceling.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
I'll have to see one of these in person because, again, I have the 14 Pro Max, whatever it's called. And at least in the demo, which you would think the demo would be the cat's pajamas, right? I didn't feel like I got to go get this.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Now, maybe I could be compelled because I have Verizon and sometimes they're like, hey, it's been two years. Then, yeah, I will get it.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
See, I guess maybe it's where I am. I just don't have the call problems.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Yeah, that is pretty sweet. All right, so what if you're not loyal to the Apple ecosystem? What if you're surfing the WSL wave, Mike? Yeah, so to celebrate the end of summer and to, frankly, make better use of this ridiculously over-spec Dell I have here, I decided to give WSL a shot again.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
I did. Oh, wow. So the image is of Tux surfing on top of something with like a vaguely Microsoft Windows-esque logo on it. Yes. Yeah.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
You know, we've talked about it before. I think it might be a year ago. And it's certainly come a long way to the point where so far, about a weekend, it is 100% usable. The biggest hiccup I hit was actually trying to, and this isn't WSL, this is just Windows.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
When I was trying to get on the air, I was trying to get on the air on the Dell, and Chrome kept saying, your Windows is blocking the microphone. So I went to do what Chrome said, and it didn't help. So that's probably – Rough edges for those kinds of things.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Well, and I have a suspicion that it's the way, because I plugged in the Zoom 22 into the front of the Dell via USB-C that I use for the Mac. I bet had I ran it behind the desk into like a regular USB-A port, I just have this feeling it would have not been done. But we're talking about WSL, not Windows in general. We should just take a quick detour, right? So Windows is fine, right?
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
PowerShell is, I would say... Pretty good now, even though I don't use it much at all. They have fixed, and you can read DHS's post about this too, text rendering is no longer terrible on Windows until you get into some of those older applications that look like a dead turkey. And WSL, so there's still two modes. There's WSL 1, which is like the translation layer.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Think of it like wine, but Windows to Linux almost. Kind of slow. The only real big advantage is that working with the Windows file system is faster. What you really want, and what most people are talking about when they talk about WSL today, is WSL 2, which is running a full big daddy tux Linux kernel inside of Windows.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
It does more stuff. And a lot of, I'm jumping ahead a little bit here, but a lot of the IDE vendors, such as, you know, I love my JetBrains tools, right, have strong WSL support now.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Where it's like two-click setup for, I'm using PyCharm and RubyMine, of course. Really easy setup. CLion has good integrations.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Yeah, VS Code does some weird stuff. It automatically configures itself if you install their plugin, and it will sometimes launch a Linux version of VS Code or VS Code in a Linux email for you if you type code into WSL.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Yeah, so if you want the I-want-to-do-no configuration of an IDE whatsoever, Visual Studio Code is your buddy. It's there for you.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Yeah, well, I kind of think it might be why VS Code exists, to be honest with you. It's really... You know, I did take a quick walk on the VS Code site again, and they are... they really want to make it easy for you to go from like VS code to get hub to deployed.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
And there's all kinds of little Microsoft published helpers for that. So take that for what it's worth, right? You know, you just, how tightly you want to be in that ecosystem.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
I know you're a Penguin guy. So I did two. I did Penguin, but I ended up writing the post. I'm going to do a more in-depth one later with Ubuntu for the simple fact that Ubuntu is free.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
And most of the tutorials that I think beginners will find are going to be for Ubuntu. Okay.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
So you don't have to run it at startup either. Right, okay, right. I mean, I don't notice it. I also have 128 gigs of RAM on my machine. By default, it only allows it to take up to 50% of the RAM on your system.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
That's all. In your system, that's still a ridiculous amount of RAM. Well, right. There's a config file where you can override that if you're insane. But I have noticed no performance lag. Again, 128 gigs of RAM. Yeah, yeah.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
So I haven't done, I don't do my dev environments in Docker. I deploy to Docker for staging and production. So I have not, but that is definitely something I should look into.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
So there's two things. Let me just jump to the Docker thing real quick too. Yeah, so there's other ways to use Docker, right? You could do like Doku or Docker Compose where like Voltron's up the Docker container on the server, which is basically what I do. Okay. So the advantage is, well, you know, that $1,500 Mac Studio display I bought? About two years ago? Yeah. Hmm. decided to die.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Oh, so this is more of a rage trial. I see. I see. Um, no, but there are, there are legitimate advantages, right? Like, so I do have, um, windows applications that I still support. I have, uh, you know, some game stuff that I'm doing gaming and game dev stuff that is just easier on windows right now. And I gotta be honest with you. Like I'm going to be redoing my little home office.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Cause I just, I grabbed a monitor I had in the garage and, The prices on non-Apple stuff, I know this is going to come as I told you so from a lot of our commenters. There's just a whole world of affordable things out there in every shape and size.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
I can also upgrade this Dell thing. I think it can go up to 256 gigs, which is ridiculous.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Yeah, so, I mean, a couple, you know, I do like the PC game. Proton has come a long way. Lutris is great. We've talked about them both in the show. It still is a lot easier just to, like, you know, have it native on Windows, especially if you play, like, online RTSs, which I do quite a bit recently. Those stupid, what do they call them? Not DRM. Anti-cheats. Oh, God. Anti-cheats.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
For some reason, they must be something I'm doing. They just hate Lutris.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Yeah. I mean, I will say, I mean, this isn't the Windows Action Show. Windows 11 isn't that. It just isn't. And it sounds like the dev story you think is pretty solid. The dev story is solid. Now, maybe, like, so far I haven't hit anything. Maybe I will hit some crazy situation. My one big hurdle, but this was user error,
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
was you really, if you're going to be working your dev environment in WSL, just keep your code in the Linux file system. Don't try to cross the streams. Performance sucks crossing the streams. There's weird pathing issues as it tries to convert Windows paths to Linux paths or Unix paths, rather. Yeah, that's just not good. I kind of don't care for the GUI features.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Like, this is Penguin super big into this. And I know most of the mainstream distros have added this, too, where you could just launch GUI apps from WSL Linux versions like full X11 server. I guess that's cool if you need one of them. I'm mostly using it basically as the Unix. Right. You know, the POSIX stuff, the Linux command line. Right. With Windows native Linux.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Jetbrain IDEs because that's what I've used for work using the WSL SDKs as the remote interpreters remote in quotes because it's you know not in fact remote right it's a couple file system jumps away yeah and the idea sort of slash hope there is kind of like best of both worlds I suppose Yeah, the only other hiccup I've had is RuboCop, which is, I'm trying to think what, like a flake?
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
It's a linter. It's even slower in WSL. Oh, sure, yeah. I bet some things would be, wouldn't they? I figured it out, and I actually ended up asking JetBrains about it. It is not RuboCop. It is the round trip it has to take for the way they have, at most IDs, integrated into the editor. And they were able to show me you can prove it if you just go into Terminal on WSL.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
and run the command manually that it's running, it's just as fast as you'd expect. That feels like a tooling thing where I would not be shocked if RubyMine couldn't fix that. I did spin up a VS Code instance in Windows that had Ruby support. But targeting WSL again, right? It did not have this performance issue for RuboCop.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
But it notably doesn't have the automatic, like you could just click and be like, accept this recommendation. So I think there's something about the way they've implemented that that causes an issue. But that is a tiny, tiny gripe. And also sometimes RubyCop suggests crazy crap.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Or things that are technically, quote, the Ruby way, but make your code indecipherable to anyone who hasn't been learning under Mr. Kane for a while. Is it Dr. Kane? Father Kane? He's just an old dude, right? I don't know.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
I feel like I should know that. I bet he's like a monk or something, yeah.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Mandatory WSL. Yeah. I believe Arch Linux is available, too, so you could really. There you go. There you go. I like the way you're thinking.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
I may be wrong. Yeah, we'll see what happens. I mean, you know, it's interesting the businesses they're talking about splitting out. When, if I think of, you know, self-sustaining businesses at Google, I would think of YouTube, obviously. And then actually maybe the not, I think, discussed enough Google App Engine, which is like their AWS or Azure.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
That's actually a great point, right? They used to literally make videos coming out and saying, you know, this is just like your Apache web server, man. Come on. Hey, here's XServe. You can run Apache. So when you're doing your Java – remember Java was the hotness, your Java development. It's just like the – it's the same environment that you're going to be running in production. So – and –
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Yeah, they even tried to supplant my beloved Objective-C with Joth at one point, but we smoked Duke down.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
But Chrome, I don't know how Chrome could possibly live on its own.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Well, also it's the salience of the false positive. You probably see more ads in a day than you think and you just remember or take note of the ones that seem eerie to you.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Also, your browser agent also gives you away. If you are, I don't know, a Mac user using Safari on a pretty nice machine, they have a profile of guys who are within a certain age group, a certain demographic, who are Apple users, right? Yeah. Honestly, that's how podcasting ads work, too. You figure out who your audience is. I mean, Chris, tell me if I'm way off base. You're right.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
And you sell them things that stereotypically they would probably buy.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Right. It's a lead generation tactic. I mean, you know, definitely be concerned about how much you're tracked. But just like take a minute and read an article about lithium-ion batteries. Hell, read the Wikipedia. Yeah. then you will understand why this is not happening anytime soon.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
I mean, we should go, but the real bacon one I'll just let folks hear about. Your credit card company, depending on who it is, many of them are doing this now, are actually tracking your transactions and selling data to advertisers.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
So that means you don't have to even be online. You could simply go to Publix or, I don't know, Kroger's, I don't know where you are. And they'll be like, huh, this person seems to be trying out vegetarianism this month. Right.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
No, they admitted it. Yeah. I have a cap one card and they're like, hey, we're going to be selling all your. Mm hmm. Yeah. So it's. Yeah.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Right. If you are like a Moldavian scientist who solved the cold fusion, great. You've done it. Yeah, you could probably pull this off.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
We'll figure it out. I got like one last hurrah. Oh, we would be remiss if we didn't say rest in peace to Lord Vader. Oh, right.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Yeah, it would be interesting, right? Because then it would also compete with Google search and other people have discussed this possibility. But like I said, if there is anything like that suggested, it will be Oracle versus Google level appeals.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Well, I would say that there are Buddhist monks of the audience, right?
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
Yeah, I mean, you know, I'll just give my general impressions, right? All these iPhones are basically performance bumps from the 15. I'm on a 14 Pro Max, whatever. I am still, you know, I'm toying with it. I'm not sure I'm going to upgrade.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
No, I don't see that drawing me to upgrading. I think about what I do on my phone. I use it as a phone. Shocker right now. I listen to podcasts and audiobooks and check my email. Oh, and I take pictures of my kid. Now, honestly, the most compelling thing is the camera stuff on the new Pros. Yeah, cameras are better for sure.
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587: Surfing the WSL Wave
But is that worth me, you know, having a phone payment or dropping whatever it's going to cost?
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599: GPU Game Theory
All right, I got one that's pretty bad. It's been bad on multiple levels. All right. My just general hatred of Swift when it came out.
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599: GPU Game Theory
One, irrational. Two, it actually didn't matter in a lot of ways, right?
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599: GPU Game Theory
calm and let's just say uh i don't know how you say thoughtful person would have been well it doesn't matter because the trend is is and was always going to be a lot of the enterprise type development i do was going to end up you know relying on web standards rather than uh native development or any of the shims like xamarin okay that's i guess that's not like a cringe take it's just wrong right
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You know, is it a rug pull? I don't know. I mean, they weren't official, right? They were kind of just there. I don't think, at least I couldn't find anything where Tesla came out and said that they were going to support these APIs. Yeah. For third-party use.
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Yeah, isn't that always the case? Especially starting out a project like this, maybe it's your first of your own, I don't know. You're more likely to languish in obscurity than to get Sherlocked. Yeah. I mean, I still lean towards permissive licenses. I've heard some good arguments and I've seen some successful projects.
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599: GPU Game Theory
Now this is, I might be messed up here, but the LGPL4 has like a, it could be the LGPL4 or the LGPL3. I always screw them up. But has a way where you could make it like kind of copy left so that you can't just get Sherlocked. Again, I think that's not a huge risk in most cases. but it gives you the ability to do proprietary-ish things, which you might want to do.
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599: GPU Game Theory
I tend to still, I know this is lame, I still tend to use, I think the last thing I did was like Apache license.
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599: GPU Game Theory
It has the Google problem, right? How many pages do you have to go before you see a non-Google property on most searches now?
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599: GPU Game Theory
Thank you for the boost. Was it because he was just like being slightly disruptive?
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599: GPU Game Theory
Now it doesn't come up anymore. He's a kid. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I have no direct experience with this with my child, but I know one of his pals is on it now, and the poor kid's a zombie.
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599: GPU Game Theory
Yeah, that's tough. It's a shitty situation all around. This is the risk you always run when you're building on top of somebody else's API.
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599: GPU Game Theory
Um... I think we're going to get more practical applications for it, which might be less sexy for the non-techie media.
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599: GPU Game Theory
So, I'm trying to think of how to put this correctly. It's going to be actually more useful, but maybe less, you know, Jim Cramer's, well, Jim Cramer will yell about anything, but, you know, CNBC is not going to be freaking out about it as much. I do worry a little that the massive expenditures that particularly OpenAI is taking, I mean, that's a big old nut to crack.
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599: GPU Game Theory
So, I mean, I guess they're going to get there 200 at a time, right? I don't know.
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599: GPU Game Theory
It just seems like a strange... I mean, are they implying that because they want to meet people, potential dating, I guess?
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599: GPU Game Theory
I don't know. I don't know. I can't see a case where I want to go back to the office.
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599: GPU Game Theory
Go check out alice.dev, and you can find me at Dumanuku on all the socials. I have not been posting much, so it's been great.
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599: GPU Game Theory
Yeah, it's interesting because – One, it's going to be imperfect no matter what, but it would be interesting to see someone in a position of power. If we're going to have some kind of regulation, be an advocate for the open source models rather than, you know, not. Now, you know, when the rubber meets the road, where does he really land, right? Who knows, right? This is all new.
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599: GPU Game Theory
This is all, it's kind of exciting. It's a lot of it's to be determined. It's also the federal government.
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599: GPU Game Theory
Right, how much can they actually do, right? I mean, open AI doesn't seem to be slowing down. They just got my $200.
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599: GPU Game Theory
Well, in a lot of ways, Elon ended up doing a better version of what Sam was trying to do, right? He got cozied up to the folks in power by taking what some might have called a long shot on Trump. It's going to make life hard for Altman, right?
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599: GPU Game Theory
It will be interesting to see if OpenAI starts to signal some more friendliness to the incoming administration. I think one easy way to do that that's not that impactful, but is more of a signaling move, would be to loosen ChatGPT's... Let's try to say this in a non-controversial way, but some of it's more pearl clutching norms. Sensitivity.
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Yeah, I mean, I would strongly consider flipping that switch to be a little more free-for-all and then making a big splash, a PR splash. You're going to get pilloried by your California friends. But yeah, I would certainly be scared if Elon Musk is Grima Wormtongue into Trump's ear and I'm open AI, considering the just massive amounts of money they're burning.
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599: GPU Game Theory
So, I mean, it takes longer to respond to me, which I guess is their way of showing surfacing the additional processing. Yeah. But the answers are roughly the same and it still has what I would consider the same gaps that the pro version has.
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599: GPU Game Theory
I mean, I am going to stick with it for a month and see where I land. But I, you know, because like I have it doing a lot of like the marketing stuff, right? Just like, you know, here's an ad I want to do for Alice and I just make me like five variants and I manually check them and tweak them. But there you go. Huh, okay. I do ask it coding questions.
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599: GPU Game Theory
It still has this weird black hole with Doku and some Rails stuff that I don't understand where I guess it's just a bias of the information that it has is so heavily skewed towards other solutions.
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599: GPU Game Theory
Yeah, I think it's better. So I found ChatGPT to always be much better at Python than Ruby. But I think they made an effort to make it good at Python, right?
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599: GPU Game Theory
I'm doing more complicated things with it. I'm definitely leaning pretty heavy on the business side because it's the kind of work that's expensive for me to outsource or to hire in for. You know how it is, man, right? You run a campaign, and if the campaign fails... It's nice to not have paid some consultant five grand to set that up, right?
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But if you are someone trying to build some sort of boutique AI thing for a specific customer base, your startup, whatever, three grand is not... It's actually pretty reasonable to get in. So I think that I could understand how that's something the Wall Street crowd would totally overlook, but I could see them moving quite a lot of those. I don't know.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
I thought that was a pretty impressive announcement. Now, I always take NVIDIA with a little bit of salt.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
I mean, on the bright side. New GPUs means older GPUs should be cheaper.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
I mean, yeah, they're spending so much money, right? This has been my hobby horse every time we talk about this, is, okay, are we just going to... I mean, not that people don't IPO without being profitable, and not that that's not the norm these days, but it sure feels like... These numbers, you know, sometimes the math isn't mathing.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
No, I mean, this is a product that has a specific customer that is, if you believe any of the big tech sites, is the growth market right now. And surely, I still think there will be a few startups that do a niche AI product.
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And I can't think of a better way to just have an out-of-the-box, bam, I'm up and running, ready to rock on the important part of being a business, which is your own stuff, right? Getting your product ready, not tinkering with... It's setting up your workstation or, God forbid, having to pay AWS for a bunch of GPUs or whatever the hell.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Oh, yeah. If you're doing AI, you're going to go CUDA, I think.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Well, right. Google, I believe, is still out there trying to make their own AI chips, right? It's still a thing. I know they're not talking about it much. I think Microsoft was too. Did they give up on that?
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Translation, we're going to get out of this Microsoft deal within Trump's term.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Yes. As long as I'm back from New York, I will do that.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Well, we had the story a couple, I think, right before the holidays, right, where there's a little bit of friction between Redmond and wherever the hell OpenAI actually is.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
MacGyver's great. You know what? I like every time they reference that Dean Anderson was, in fact, MacGyver.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
I don't know how to feel about this one there, Magnolia.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
That is a really bad game, though. I actually had that game.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
I mean, I... I kind of got to say no notes on this one because that has been my experience for like a decade now. Every time I hire junior people, and some of them I'm still friendly with after they left, but it always ends up being, Yeah, they're not making what a more experienced person would make, but by the time they're really productive, they're gone.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
When I say really productive, I mean not blowing shit up. I used to have better luck before work from home and remote work. When I used to tell people, oh, we're semi-remote back when we were in Jersey. Well, I used to have to defend that.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Yeah. Well, I used to have clients like, well, what about my data? Now they're like, okay, whatever. Right. So that used to be a way to retain people be like, yeah, but do you really want to like drive to New York or take the train for, you know, when you could just work from home three days a week or two days a week or whatever it was. Um, and in some cases they were always remote, um,
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Yeah, I think as an industry, we have not figured out how to deal with junior developers in a way that's both good for the employer and fair to them. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what to say. Customers are wanting more and more for less, and that makes any error or anything like that that a junior is super likely to cause that much more expensive and risky to client relationships.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
So I currently don't have any junior developers, and I was able to cut and keep revenue the same.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
The biggest jackass in the company is me now, right? So it's like, the risk is like me getting mad that somebody didn't pay an invoice or something, right? Chris knows how I get. But... I can't tell you how many times I've had a junior inadvertently merge into the branch that GitHub kicks off a deployment to and I have to scramble. It's just bad.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Or they quit in the middle of a project because it turns out they took the job because they needed a stopgap that in three months got a better job or the job they really wanted. I had one guy who didn't know how to reverse a string. but was able to... Oh, this is the other thing. It has become a lot easier. I used to do coding tests for junior developers.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
We talked a lot years ago about how many people failed FizzBuzz. Those are worthless now because a test for a junior has to be relatively easy, but ChatGPT can absolutely do that. Right? Go right now. Ask even the free version of ChatGPT to do FizzBuzz. It'll do it. I used to have this Pokédex challenge, which used the Pokémon... the Pokemon API, which is really cool that they put up.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
And I used to be like, you know what, make me like a simple like Rails webpage that is like a basic Pokedex page, like a list of the original 150 whatever Pokemon. You click it and you go to like a detail screen with the image and the stats. And if you've played Pokemon, you know exactly what I'm talking about. And I'm sure almost everybody listening to this has.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
really any pokemon game again i'm relatively sure chat gpt could get you like 80 of the way there now so and god knows what claude could do right so i don't i don't know how i would uh to dg's point i don't know how how i would make that make sense unless we're talking about You know, I should clarify here, the junior developers I think we're talking about are like your average developer.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
We're not talking about, you know, Rain Man from MIT who has never lost a game of Magic the Gathering in his life and is like writing an algorithm for parsing different license plates with, you know, half the plate or something crazy like that.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Yeah. I don't know why I went with that example.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
But like those guys are just going to Google anyway. Right. So, so I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about, you know, they, they went to college or they went to, you know, technical school. They're okay. You know, they're, they're junior, they're a developer. They're going to be probably a dark matter developer working at startups for, for a good portion of their life.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
And yeah, I don't, I don't know how to make that work. Sorry.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Have you heard of our good friends at Palantir? Thank you, Peter Thiel. You can only get those kind of juice margins with no accountability through government contracting.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
In fact, ChatGPT, the way to destroy the podcast... is to, on an infinite loop with Sam Altman's bank account, keep boosting, maybe like a million sats at a time. Yeah, that would wreck us. You know, I tell you what, if you can get us up to $3 million, you'll never hear from us again.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
I will personally crash the service and delete the whole feed.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Yes, with a quick control C and a control V, borrowing heavily.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Also, Microsoft has kind of paved the way for you here with the whole AI PC thing. Couldn't you do a riff on that? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, why? You know, it's so weird. They all have such Apple envy. And I kind of thought it was going to go away this year. But I guess it's just the chip on the shoulders too heavy.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
This guy is in the lounge room of the Enterprise-D playing multi-level chess. He's like, one, I'm going to do all these things at the same time in one move. Get out of the Microsoft deal. I'm going to get a bunch of government contracts. That's my bacon, by the way. He's going for DoD contracts. And I'm going to fix my revenue problem because there's so much fat once you get in. Right.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
That's what they've got. This is how you know they've become way too corporate. Yeah.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
I feel like that's kind of an oxymoron because you're a max, but you're also micro.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
It sounds like something out of The Onion.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Well, obviously, it's going to be the Pro Max Mini.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
You can find me on WeaponX at Dumanuko, or you can go to alice.dev if you need some data processed and automated.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Look at just how terrible the big – particularly the aerospace contractors have been doing, how much SpaceX has been able to embarrass them, and yet how fat their margins are and how little accountability there ever is.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
I mean, I definitely believe him when he says he pulled the number out of his butt. I believe that.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Well, I think they do, right? I mean, and it makes sense, right? Because I feel like the thinking, based on their behavior and various things that have leaked or have been involved in court cases or whatever, is that their big fear is that basically Google is going to overtake them. So they're constantly, like you said, skating ahead of the puck, right?
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
You ready to kick off the new year? I'm, you know, I'm trying to raise as much money as possible for my AI venture called... GiveMeMoney.ai?
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
They're pre-selling. They're making investments they probably wouldn't make. if they didn't have that competitive pressure. And frankly, Google is a pretty scary adversary. Right now, Gemini is, I would say, fathoms beneath OpenAI. But Google has unlimited money. Google owns advertising online.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
So Google can just start throwing drunk money at this, which I think they are. And they will eventually catch up, especially if OpenAI is starting to feel financial pressure. And the Microsoft deal, I think, is going to be one of the great 15 years when the books about OpenAI are the good ones, not like the, I was there and Sam yelled at me, like the real ones.
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Remember when tech reporters used to actually report on the tech? It was so good. Those books. Yeah. I bet there's a lot of stuff in that Microsoft deal that is hamstringing them. But they just needed that office money. I mean, there's no way around that.
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I mean, Sam had to donate the money, right? Because Elon, as you said, has the presidency here. And Elon, it's pretty clear that Elon hates him. Like, seems like it got very personal at some point. You know, but if you think back to the tech hearings in like 20... What was that, like 22? When they all got hauled before Congress for the first time? Yeah.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
And like, I forgot the name of the congressman, but there was some... I think it was actually – yeah, it was a senator who was just like, why are my campaign emails going to spam? Yes, there's a lot of that.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
They have a hate on – it was embarrassing.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
But the truth is I feel like there's not going to be a breakup of anybody. Yeah. I know we have this in the doc, but net neutrality just got shot in the back of the head like Old Yeller because everybody acts like Trump is such a special orange unicorn. The reality of the situation is it's going to be a Republican government that is pro-big business. There's going to be no breakups.
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Acquisitions are back. Yep, yep. Acquiring your nascent competitor in the cradle just to kill them is going to be a thing again.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Because of Lena Kahn. She kept challenging them. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't be surprised. We were talking about the Microsoft deal. I would not be surprised if Microsoft starts diversifying by buying up some nascent AI companies.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Yeah, Perplexity is good. I think Perplexity actually has to get acquired. I just don't know how they could go up against OpenAI.
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I don't think Apple wants an AI reputation.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
It's such a nest of vipers, right? Because then you immediately get into the moderation stuff.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Oh, especially because the entertainment industry, you know, last time they did business with Apple, it didn't necessarily go their way.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Robots! Robots. I think it's an interesting idea. I could definitely see, especially if you're doing a multiplayer game and struggling to get good network effects, why that might make sense. Again, it is another AI promise.
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602: Dude, You're Getting a Dell Pro Max Micro Plus!
Yeah, I feel like there's a lot. I'm particularly excited about what effectively is a dev kit. Project Digits. Project Digits, right? Which is real quick since I jumped ahead. It's a $3,000 effectively mini desktop for developers and AI researchers. Now, $3,000 is a bit of money, right?
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Glory of Docker, you can run multiple applications on one box in different containers. Again, Docker, we knew them when, when they were just we lads. But it's a huge pain in the ass to sync the data, right? This Postgres database, this kind of thing that I hate doing because it's error prone.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
This is a hickory maple dry rub. Oh, okay. You got me. That I had put on the ribs hours before cooking them and kind of let seep in. Yeah. So that's the dry rub rack. The other one is just sweet baby raised barbecue sauce. Great barbecue sauce, but it's just barbecue sauce, right?
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And, you know, everybody says they don't care about the second instance, the staging instance, but they definitely care, right? You're going to get the calls that it's down or whatever, something crazy happened. Yeah. So I was looking for a way to make this less of a support burden.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
And little did I know about this app's clone functionality in Doku, which I use every single day and have been for years. See what happens when you don't read the damn manual? What it does is it takes the existing instance, copies the application, the environment variables to a point. You can change them later. And most importantly, any attached databases.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
So Doku obviously has the Doku Postgres plugin. And like Doku Storage, any of those configurations you're using for... Doku has a robust plugin system. And creates a new instance. Things it doesn't do for you. SSL. Big pain in the butt. Okay. Change environment variables, also pain in the butt.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
For instance, you probably don't want to be sending emails or push notifications or anything like that from your staging instance, right? Now, my case was a Rails case, but this would work for, you know, FastAPI or, you know, Spring, really anything, right? Java Spring, whatever, right?
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586: Mike's Clone Army
I wrote a very simple bash script and using good old cron because we're on Linux and we have things like this that make this easy. Ran this command, right? Doku apps clone. I think I did. It's like every Sunday at midnight or 1 a.m. Okay. goes in after it's been cloned, calls Let's Encrypt, which is the free way to get SSL certs, right?
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Which Doku has a lovely plugin for, so it calls the Doku Let's Encrypt plugin, configures that all properly because you have to do it every time for every instance. So then you get your SSL, then goes in and changes the environment variable, in my case it's the Rails env, to be staging, which I just put a simple flag in the application to prevent certain actions I don't want to happen on staging.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Long and short of it, I have a pretty stable, nothing bad has happened to it yet, instance that is mirroring production data, which is what my customer wanted. It is not on a box outside of their network. It is on the same box as prod right now. And so they have no additional security concerns, right? It's not like I'm
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586: Mike's Clone Army
you know shunting their data over to a heroku instance or something like that it's right there so there's no additional security concerns it is automatic using the built-in doku clone functionality and a bash script that is roughly 20 lines long very simple yeah yeah and i'm done by the way it costs no additional money you know in terms of infrastructure
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Now, I was pretty confident that the way to go was my dry rub. Sure. You know, you just have that feeling. Got some brown sugar in there. Got a little maple, right?
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Yeah, some of that's built into Doku, too, where you can, like, revert to different versions. But more importantly, let's say they say, okay, now we have staging, but we want, like, a super bleeding edge of what you guys are working on, instance. Sure. For, let's say they, like, I don't know, they want to add, like, a side module. I'm just...
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586: Mike's Clone Army
They have not asked for this, but I'm just making this part up. That is only specific to like one division in their company. But we can have like the, you know, Jupiter Broadcasting video team instance, right? By modifying the script by like two lines.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Yeah, and this kind of problem is like the thorny kind of like data, like am I messing with data thing that I hate to do? Because, you know, you're always ultimately responsible and you never want to be screwing around where you could like lose data or anything like that. But yeah, I really like this.
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And again, I mean, you know, the wise men in Washington State and Florida, although I think I was in New Jersey at the time, you know, knowing about Docker, seeing those young promising lads before they made it to the Premier League.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
No, it was Cloud9, I think. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Right, because they were selling... They were like a platform as a service, weren't they, basically? Yeah, because their product was actually Docker, but they were selling it as... As like .something, right?
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586: Mike's Clone Army
.cloud. Was it .cloud? I thought it was .cloud. No, it's .cloud. No, no, you're right. It's .cloud because Cloud9 was the... Remember, we had them on too. They were like a VS Code in the cloud before VS Code.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
They have enterprise contracts, though. I mean, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're okay. They're doing okay. Yeah, right. Now...
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Yeah, not to beat the horse here, but one of the nice things about using, you is it is platform agnostic, right? So a problem I know a lot of folks in the Rails community are having is Heroku, since Salesforce acquired them, has become super stagnant and expensive. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, and expensive. So it doesn't matter if you're on Linode, AWS.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
In fact, AWS is more than happy to take your money while you use open source projects. They're down. In this case, my customer is on Azure. like weird enterprise Azure. So it's fine. As long as you've got a Linux instance, you're good. Unless of course you're hosting an open source project that helps you make Docker containers of Mac OS.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Well, so I didn't grill these, to confess. I slow baked them. But still, came out great, right? Of course. The ribs come out. And it was as if piranhas descended, or dare I say gators, on both racks. First, they – and I said, why don't you try a little bit of the dry rub? I then went to tend to the sides. Half the rack of dry rub was gone.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
I mean, I know a dude who runs a container for each of his consulting clients. Sure. Just like on his local, he never, he's a Python dev, and he just, he says, I don't want to, you know, he's using them for whatever, you know, virtual environment. But he says, I just put them all in their own container. That way, if something goes haywire, I don't have to worry about it.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
And sitting there, dejected, was the messy as hell Sweet Baby Rays. Now, they were both good. But this goes to show fellow barbecue aficionados or the barbecue chieftains, I'd say, of our audience. When the kids whine that they want the boring thing they could just get at Chili's, just don't listen. I know. They don't know better. Yeah.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Yeah. Also, I think the incentives are super aligned for contractors, many of whom might be working on like a fixed scope project where literally their margins go up if they can get it done faster. Yeah.
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Because they're working in data science. They have like lots of money.
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They're serious. You know, Eric does a whole R show. He's evangelizing.
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That's not how it works in the States. They give you a day and they're like, show up or, you know. You're in a lot more trouble. Forget about parole, right? Yeah. In Florida, they just feed you to the gators.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
I got to give our European listeners one thing. Their prisons are like less horrific than ours. Ours are like overly – especially for stupid stuff like – it's funny. Florida has made – it's on the ballot again.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
it's gonna win probably but like the medical marijuana law here is so thin it's like i'm stressed out they give you a card sure they give everybody a card and it's all these old bitties running around like these old driving around unfortunately driving around token uplifted right like holy crap and but but 10 years ago
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586: Mike's Clone Army
They were throwing kids in jail for like two, three years just for possessing a couple marijuana cigarettes.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Oh, it's, it's, it's my experience. I mean, this is an anecdote, right? Is it's women of that demographic, right? Yeah. Yeah.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
That's exactly what I've been told too. It's they gave – basically they gave up their wine and wine is loaded with sugar and obviously alcohol.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Well, yeah, right. They're debating that law, which probably won't pass because it's an election year, the Child Safety – I forgot the acronym, but it's another internet regulation law. That would effectively force something like this where you'd have to have digital IDs to access.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
I think the word they use in it is objectionable material, which, oh, the lawyers are going to make so much money trying to define what is and is not objectionable. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, I mean, but everything's bad. Right. I don't know. Chris, I think you're probably more of a freedom warrior on this than I am. I just we're going to get digital IDs.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Can I break your spirit even worse? Yeah, sure. So the positive scenario you described isn't going to happen. Right. And going through the airport is still somehow going to suck, even though they know who you are automatically. Yes.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
I've had a very similar experience. And my commercial experiences are also infuriating because the flight I most commonly take is a roughly two and a half hour flight. And yet, each way, I'm in security or the lounge or whatever. whatever for two hours. Right. Yeah. Which is for those of us who are, you know, proficient at math, almost as much time as the actual flight. Yep.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Oh, and now, because airline prices are ridiculous, a flight that used to cost me, let's say, five-something round trip, I'm paying like 800 bucks. And the seats, I mean, yes, maybe I got a little more portly, but I used, do you remember like not paying to have a bag? Yeah. Or how about like a complimentary drink or something? And I don't mean like booze. I mean like not getting shaken down for,
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586: Mike's Clone Army
i guess you still get the drink but yeah depending on where you sit depending on the airline all these things change but the seats are definitely less comfortable uh you know it's just where business class used to be like reasonably affordable yeah and now it's effectively first class minus 100 bucks i yeah and slightly less nice food yeah but that's it right like i i don't know it's it's over 9 000 now i'm sitting here doing the math
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Okay, so this is a common thing that I've been reading from disgruntled younger iOS developers. So the reason Steve Jobs killed Flash was a battery life concern, and just like Antipathy, he felt that Adobe was making the iPhone look crappy. And... There is no case where Steve Jobs somehow being in charge still would be better for developers.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
The reason it took so long to get the App Store was because Steve Jobs was personally against it. He had to be convinced because he didn't want developers installing software on their phone. And the idea that he would be this evangelist for PWAs I think comes from the marketing and the truly good web standard support they did for the original iMac launch and for a few years after.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
I know. I'm sitting in front of one that's doing weird stuff now for $1,500. I'm so happy.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
I mean, well, if Jobs is still around, the Vision Pro doesn't even get out of, like, the first meeting with him. And he probably fires the guy who showed it to him, right? Yeah, I bet that's true. Yeah. I mean, you know, there's definitely differences. I would also add... I almost think him being around would have been much better for the Mac.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
It's funny because we're past it now, but the just horrendous error of the butterfly keyboard, which was, I'm sorry, but that was a broken product on the MacBooks and the MacBook Pros. It wasn't that I didn't like it. I forgot her name, but the journalist from the Wall Street Journal didn't like it. Joanna Stern. Joanna Stern. The damn thing was broken out of the box. Yeah.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
And it wasn't something that like – It was a bad design. It was a bad design.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Right. And that's like – that is – I think Tim Cook is a – he's obviously a brilliant businessman. But he's too much of an accountant. Damn, a lot of shade towards accountants today. He's – I feel like they kept the butterfly keyboard because, yeah, it would have been expensive to turn the ship and be like, we can't use these because they're broken. Right.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
I mean, saying something is going to be different, you know, five years apart is like, sure, right?
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586: Mike's Clone Army
The one before it? Right. The one they were using for like... The one they could have rolled back to. Or they could have just like... Like, I feel like there was a... You put it best, I think. An emphasis on product, but also like quality. Like the Vision Pro, man. That's...
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586: Mike's Clone Army
And how well the BetaQuest is doing relative to that market segment, which is a tiny market segment anyway. I don't know. It's hard to argue in counterfactuals, right? Because would there be a new whiz-bang Apple product? Well, it's tough. They're a big company. And they are on the quarterly game, right?
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Like, okay, something Tim Cook handled really well that I don't think Jobs would have handled quite so well is when Warren Buffett and other – can we call them vultures? Can we do that? We're harassing him about stock price. He basically went – this is a real thing. He went to lunch with them and negotiated a deal where he would buy back a bunch of stock. basically making them rich.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Like, that is where Tim Cook is good. Tim Cook is good at, like, I could see Steve Jobs having a fit of morals about the Chinese government, right?
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Or Johnny Ives leaves and you just like give his new design agency a massive contract and then press release. Johnny Ives is helping us out. Right.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Just real quick. It's like we shouldn't criticize Uncle Tim too much because the man is putting up the numbers.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
It also depends on which era of jobs, right? Can you imagine a younger Steve Jobs and Twitter existing? Oh, God. He'd be canceled, right? This is a guy who famously would scream at people, right? Actually, you know, I would say it would be problematic if Steve was still around because there would be so many... Yeah, times have changed.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Yeah, I think we keep proving this false, right? You know, this is not the first time that people said, oh, development's going to die, right? I remember the battle days of, you know, everything's going to be Adobe, whatever that thing, not Air. It doesn't really matter, right? It's dead anyway.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Right, there'd be so many people leaking to places like The Verge or Joanna Stern at The Journal.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
woke well it's not even just current apple right the tech press of that time oh he's a temperamental little bit the little prick yeah but it's because he's a genius and we have to tolerate geniuses and that would be he's abusive he's toxic he yes i i to conversely elon in the 80s probably would have gotten a more uh sympathetic shake right so
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586: Mike's Clone Army
But, you know, and all these other platforms were going to die, and it was no good, and you're screwed if you don't jump on the bandwagon. And I think we can say that that is not how that happened. I have two thoughts.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
I mean, yeah, we were talking about this in our Slack, and I think it's... I was a little like, what the hell? But I was convinced that, you know, wine is probably the appropriate place for this to go. And better than just letting it die? Well, yeah, because there's going to be a lot of legacy applications that...
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586: Mike's Clone Army
you know, that for whatever reason are difficult to port to, let's say, you know, the new .NET Core or .NET.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Go check out alice.dev for some automation ETL goodness. That's right. We can move data for you automatically from legacy systems.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
I know many business types, let's call them accounting, generic accounting finance types. I'm sure there's an accounting podcast that would roast us for that. But see, we know our area. And basically, that's it. My mom is one of them. In effect, these folks are basically using Excel as a development platform. They just wouldn't call it that, right?
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586: Mike's Clone Army
But it's like, they've got conditionals, they've got loops, they've got all kinds of crazy stuff going on. I think Satya is right. A little, God, it's going to be Clippy, isn't it? It better be Clippy. They should bring Clippy back.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
I don't know. But it's not going to wipe out the whole class of developers. I don't think. I just don't see it.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Yeah. So the idea is if you refactor just a very little bit, it's actually not that big of a change. To use this conditional API, you're going to save yourself money because I think everybody who listens to the show who uses AWS knows that Amazon charges for every goddamn thing.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
So every write, even if it's a redundant write, even if you're overwriting data that is the exact same data with the exact same data, you are paying for that.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Or if you're dealing with large assets like 3D files or something like that, you really want to... not be doing that. And I know a lot of folks, right, a good practice is to, you know, manually check in your application logic. But this basically does that for you if you implement this API. And I would care to wager it's probably more accurate and less error prone than a hand-rolled solution.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Also, it's code you didn't write that you don't have to maintain that Amazon's going to maintain for you. So, yeah, I like this. I would use this on my next project that involves AWS.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Now, I want to say I had to make two variety of ribs because the wife and kiddos protested at the idea of a dry rub.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Well, let me tell you about this drive-up, okay? Stay a while and listen to my drive-up story.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
That was great. Yeah, so my good friend Master Sephadeus came and was like, you know what we need? I'm like, no, what's up? And aren't you Darth Tyrannus? Spoilers, I guess, maybe. And come on. He's like, no, I'm not. Anyway, here's what you need. Doku apps clone. So I'm going to pat us on the back. I may break my arm doing this again, Chris.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
Do you remember we talked to that little stone company called Cloud9 that became Docker? Yeah. Nice. Yes. You know what, Mike? I'm kind of familiar with that. Yes. Well, called it. Still paying off in 2024. Doku, I mention it all the time, but if anybody somehow missed it, is a reimplementation of the Heroku Buildpack deployment API, whatever you want to call it, on top of Docker.
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586: Mike's Clone Army
And open source, which is the key thing. They do have a weird paid plan that you don't need to use because you don't need it. So I had a problem where I got a request that a customer wanted staging to literally mirror production data on a set amount of time. Now, everything's hosted on their own infrastructure. So it's one box.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
This is Coda Radio, episode 589, recorded on October 1st, 2024. Well, hey, friend. Welcome back to Jupiter Broadcasting's weekly talk show. Taking a pragmatic look at the art, the business, and all of the software development stuff out there. I don't know, probably the whole world of technology, you might say. I could probably say that. My name is Chris, and, well, that doesn't really matter.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Ultimately, any framework for effectively regulating AI needs to keep pace with the technology itself. I guess my question to you, Mike, is it seems to me whatever state that comes up with – well, that's not true. Really, it's California just because of where all the industry is.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
If California comes up with a state-level regulation, that's sort of de facto going to become regulation for much of the world since a lot of AI innovation is happening in California.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Yeah, we've seen this before with the auto industry, right? California makes some, you know, whatever, environmental law. And it's just cheaper to follow the strictest standard everywhere than have like different models of car in most cases. Right. I don't know. I was at first surprised that he vetoed this. But then thinking about it, this is a lot of money coming into California.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Yeah. And he kind of signaled that he might not. He did sign some AI regulation that, you know, I think involves parody and actor use and stuff like that. But this, not so much.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
I don't know. Do you think it should have? I mean, I feel like we're pretty early in the game yet on this AI stuff. And it very well could be a nothing burger.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Timothy B. Lee posted something that I thought put into words what I've been thinking. He writes, there's a lot of disagreements over AI regulation. It seems to flow from whether people expect AI systems to continue to be tools or whether they expect them to become more person like over time. I think there's two branches or two forks of, you know, futurism or doomerism about this one.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Like all they do, my stepson, all he and his friends do is play on the meta quest. It's crazy. They play this crazy game. I think it's called Ape Tag or Gorilla Tag.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
And I think it's the one and probably you subscribe to is AI. Well, look, if AI just continues to be tools that we use, then it makes sense to regulate them the way we've always regulated tools by making sure they're safe and effective for particular uses. Like, you know, if you have AI in a driving car or something that does medical diagnosis, you know, or something that's used in hiring.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
It's a tool. So what we often do is in that paradigm, when it's a tool like a hammer or a saw or whatever, we hold the people using the tools responsible if they misuse them. Right. So it may not be necessary to regulate the tools directly at all.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
But on the other hand, if you expect AI to become more and more independent agents with their own agendas, their own thoughts, well, then we probably need an entire new regulation regime to address that.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
If you've been drinking and watching The Terminator, yes, that's a whole different situation.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Well, that is what people are concerned about. The Doomers have come up with all of these concerns about, you know, misinformation and impersonating people and taking over things.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
I mean, OK, so that's the question, right? So I would be curious on what your thought is. Do you think that we're anywhere near, let's call it, you know, five years to completely, I mean, basically Jarvis? I don't think we are, but.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
No, I think we're closer to autocorrect than we are to Jarvis or Skynet.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Right. I think we're closer to Clippy. That kind of works.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Yeah. And I think what we're doing now is we're figuring out how much back-end compute we need to get something useful, how much we can layer it. Remember we saw that the pre-prompts for Apple Intelligence leaked and it's like, you be a good assistant, don't be offensive. We're starting to figure out how to massage these things and get the results we want. And so we're going to get them better.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Yes, yes. You know what I'm talking about? Yes. My daughters love that game too.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
But it's still an open question of how good they're going to get. And they're very, very, very, very far from Skynet. And they're much, much, much closer to autocorrect on your mobile device.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
So, I mean, I think we'll know that we're going towards Skynet when you have your first AI pursue a sexual harassment lawsuit. And it'll just bring up a history of all your chats and be like, this is what he said at 2 a.m. on Saturday.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
I'm joking, of course, but if you think about these nightmare scenarios that people keep bringing up, you would then have to assume that, well, then you could probably piss the AI off, right? Yeah. I do remember when Siri came out, and then Cortana came out, Microsoft's shameless rebranding of a beloved video game character. What was the first thing people started doing with Siri?
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Right. And he's always going on there and finding new stuff. And then my youngest, my little guy, it's the big hot item all the kids want. It just seems like somehow we're coming to a place where that is the type of game they want to play and the experience they want to have.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Oh, I can't say that. What's up, Siri? What do you think of Cortana? And for a little while, she would actually throw shade at Cortana. She'd be like, whatever. Whatever. And then they got rid of that because Apple hates fun. Or you used to be able to say, like, lewd or flirty stuff to Siri, and she'd come back at you a little sassy and be like, you wish.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
And they got rid of that because I think there was a cultural change here, too. We're just trending towards boring, right? I wouldn't be surprised if, like, you know, with the weird exception of Grok, who, god damn, if you want any picture of Donald Trump that you could possibly dream. Grok will do it for you. Grok is down.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
I have not tried Grok. I have not yet subscribed to Twitter. I have not.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
I think they specifically, like, made it work better for political figures, and I don't know why, because I ask other things, and it's kind of... Maybe to draw attention. You can get it to be mean to you, which is, like... I forgot the name. There's another AI that basically takes your LinkedIn profile and just roasts you. Oh, that's great. Yeah, it's actually pretty good.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
It's like, you know, the most, the meanest person doing a background check on you just solely based on your LinkedIn profile.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
You know, speaking of, you know, the first AI that's actually genuinely kind of impressed me. I don't know if you've seen these demos of Notebook LM. I was just trying it this week. Isn't that that truly? So quick recap, because I'm sure people probably know what it is, but just in case. You uploaded a set of documents, say like your research papers or whatever, and you can upload a bunch of them.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
And then you kind of give it some direction and then it just starts cooking. And what comes out on the other end is a very realistic sounding podcast by two hosts. And I mean, I think most people would think, in fact, I played a little bit of my wife and then I told her it was AI and she did not catch that it was AI before I mentioned something.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
I have a little bit of the audio just as an example here. Go ahead. Just so people can kind of see what I'm saying here.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
It really is pretty good. And the person that did this little experiment uploaded a one-page document with production notes for the Deep Dive podcast. It just told them, oh, you've been AI this whole time. He generated this a few times, and this is the only time he got this kind of reaction. Other times they're more disassociated with it. But it really is – it generally impresses me.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Well, and when the Apple Vision Pro is $2,500 and the MetaQuest 3S is $299.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Yeah, but we're getting better in the really, really sad Steven Spielberg AI movie. Yeah, that's true. Spoilers. What is his name? Joel Osment was not, in fact, a real boy. And that's very, very sad. And now I'm depressed.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
To wrap up the bill, Clem, the co-founder of Hugging Face, posted, quote, this was a bad bill for the ecosystem and science in general, so I'm happy to see it vetoed by Gavin Newsom. Just like in software, we need to regulate the final applications and foster more open source science and open source to fight the concentration of power. So I agree with that. I think I take the tools view.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Oh, and from a development perspective for platform, there's no denying Quest is the leader, right? And under the hood, it's just Android, and it has great Unity integration and Unreal integration. So… Even if you're making a game or if you're not making a game, it's not hard to develop for. It also can do Android native development in Lay C++, the NDK native development kit.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
And with the tool view, I think we regulate differently and we have a lot of laws already on the books that solve the problem. I think if you look at it as they're going to be independent agents, then you're going to need a whole suite of regulations. And I think then controlling the information isn't going to solve the problem.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
If these things have independent agency and they're out there creating misinformation that destroys our democracy, the solution probably won't be to limit information but to make even more information available. And so then again, I think the regulation has to be crafted very carefully.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
basically the god emperor the star of it all the star not just a regular man perhaps an alt man a sam altman who uh well he's had a really busy couple of weeks uh right after the show wrapped up he claimed that deep learning worked that super intelligence may be quote a few thousand days away and that astounding triumphs will incrementally become commonplace
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
I just got to say this guy, his superpower is PR. For sure. Right.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Superintelligence is just a few thousand days away, he said. Superintelligence. And then, of course, news came out that OpenAI is planning to remove – well, actually they're planning to restructure. In fact, I thought – I think this is the clip here. I thought this Bloomberg clip actually explained and brought up a few questions.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
If you forgive their traditional news style format, they actually raise a few good questions in this clip.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
So the rumors are that Sam Altman may get a 7% stake. In the shift for profit for open AI. And ironically, of course, Sam is on video multiple times saying he's not in it for the money. So you can find clips of him at a Senate testimony. Senator, I'm not in it for the money. And so now it looks like he may be in it for the money.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Absolutely. Yeah. So, OK, let's start. Let's break some of this down. So the CTO, head of research and the VP of training research all decided to leave on the same day that this news came out. So three high level people have been there from the beginning.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
No, don't spoil it. I'm actually going to watch The Godfather soon. Are you serious? I haven't seen it yet. I know, it's horrible of me. It's a wrong I'm going to write soon.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Okay, well, for those who have, yeah, that makes sense.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
So this is really incredible. And then also news came out that Apple's not going to invest in open AI. And M.G. Siegler pointed out that ChatGPT is on the verge of rolling out to millions of Apple devices, iPads, macOS, lots of devices. It's not just like iPhone 15 and 16. It's also the iPads and the MacBooks.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
For the most part, those users seemingly from what Apple has told us are using the service logged out. They're not getting tracked. So they're not – I mean, I think there is a way you can link it to an existing pro subscription, but by default, it's using a logged out session.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
So one of the bigger questions around all of this is the initial reporting is that Apple's not paying OpenAI for the usage. But you get a sense that like when you look at OpenAI's quarterly results that got leaked or something like that that just came out, oh, it was like an investor letter. Like it's pretty expensive for all these freebie searches.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
It's costing them quite a bit of money because they're paying Microsoft for to run this on Azure. So OpenAI is going to be fronting for Apple since Apple isn't paying, and they're gonna pay Microsoft for Apple's usage of ChatGPT. And that probably made sense when Apple was going to invest in OpenAI, but now that Apple's pulling out, they still have to pay for the usage.
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I think it's the winner, right? It's the Windows to, well, Apple's back because Apple's the other guy, right? And the field is only thinning. Microsoft just killed the HoloLens 2, which is sad, but...
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
So OpenAI is giving another investor's money to Microsoft – giving investors money, others to Microsoft and including Microsoft's own money to pay for Microsoft services to run searches for iOS users.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Like with Apple pulling out of this funding deal where they were going to have – like they were going to fund and they were going to have a board member and they were supposedly talking billions of dollars. This seems like a really awkward relationship all of a sudden because you turn it on for a ton of users that are using logged out free sessions and Apple isn't paying anything for it.
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I think the next step is Sam comes back to Apple and says, here's what you've cost us. You've got to pay up. And then Apple announces that they've raised the cost of Apple one, but it now includes Apple intelligence or you can pay for Apple intelligence on its own for like five ninety nine a month or something.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Well, you're going to be paying on its own. Come on.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Or probably it's Apple, so it's $9.99 or something.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Yeah. You got to keep that – Chris, it's that red line. It's got to go up and to the right for services revenue, especially with the pesky Epic suing them again and the EU trying to – do you know how much they need that 30 percent?
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
Well, that's what's crazy, man. If you zoom out, Apple is going to have – at some point, they're going to have a check they owe OpenAI. They're probably going to stop getting money from Google because of all of the antitrust stuff going on.
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And then it turns out Apple also had a deal. I'm talking out of school. I didn't bring it to the show, but I think it's with MasterCard or Visa. One of them is also getting sued by the Justice Department. And in there, it comes out that they had an exclusivity deal with Apple. to not allow other payment networks like cryptocurrency and things like that.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
And they were cutting Apple a big check every year to maintain some of this exclusivity in Apple Pay. And that's probably going to get cut out too because of the antitrust stuff.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
So their Google money is getting possibly cut. Wait. So what is it? They're paying them not to use other networks?
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Yeah, I should have brought the story and prepped it for the show.
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Because I know Goldman is trying to chew their way out of the Apple card deal.
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Chatroom is coming in clutch. It is Visa. Oh, it's Visa. Because of the fee structure. And so I have the agreement right here actually. I did save it in case it came up. Visa has deals with Apple. This is a snapshot from the court paper.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
One of the things I noted about the Quest 3S is that they say 4.5x better resolution for clarity compared to the Quest 2 for mixed reality and AR. They're continuing to push AR integration through as well, and they're making the passer cameras better and better. So I think there's – like if you look at the platform options out there, it's –
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Visa has deals with Apple in which Apple agrees that it may not develop or deploy payment functionality with the aim of competing with Visa such as creating payment functionality that relies primarily on non-Visa payment processes or payment products. Apple is also barred from providing incentives with the intent of disintermediating Visa. So part of their little deal with Apple –
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I don't know the amount. OK. See if I might have it here. I don't know if I do have it, but it looks like there is some there is some sort of visa payments to Apple amounted to hundreds of millions of dollars in 2023 is what the court papers say. Oh, so that money is likely going to get cut out. The Google money is likely going to get cut out.
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And at some point, they're either going to have to build their own search or they're going to have to come up with something there. Maybe Microsoft pays. I don't know. But also OpenAI is likely going to have to bill them for their usage of their users at some point.
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I've got it. They lock down iOS such that it always does a big search unless you pay $50 a year to use Google. That's what they do.
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Yeah. And then kind of talking about AI and just where this is all going, it really seems that we've had this conversation around how much power AI needs. And I guess we're on a roll with clips. But before we get into the power discussion, because Sam Altman – Just made a big pitch to the Biden administration on a massive build out of data centers that are near nukes.
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And Zuck was in an interview talking about AI hardware demands. And I just think about power usage requirements when he's talking about this here in this interview. I forget who this interview is with, but I'll put a link to it in the show notes.
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With this whole Horizon OS initiative they have, I think you're probably right that if you're looking at maybe getting, and I'm not sure if this is where you're going, but if you're thinking about maybe getting in the AR space, or maybe you just want to be prepared for that if it becomes an eventuality, this does seem like the one to bet on.
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You build out power. So what seems to be happening – if you translate what he just said there to power usage, they're not done yet. They need to build out a lot more. They need to really throw a lot of resources at this.
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And so that's why companies like Microsoft are working with Constellation who has this – now they have this 20-year plan to restart one of the recently shut down reactors on the Three Mile Island, which this reactor has been going since 2019. These things are not cheap to get started. And so they go into this massive contract.
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And I don't know if they're going to try to put data centers near that, but you know that's going to be a plan. AWS is hiring for a data center principal nuclear engineer to evaluate SMRs and nuclear fuel strategies. Apple has quietly updated their definition of clean energy in their marketing material and on their website. Nuclear energy.
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We're going to have to. So real quick, we should mention OpenAI is doing their Dev Days as of Monday. And I just have two things I think might be relevant to the audience. One, the new real-time API. I have obviously not get to try it because they just announced it while we've been on the air, basically. It is a audio to audio API, right? Similar to their audio features. That's pretty cool.
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But I think the real sexy one, and this is super boring, but OpenAI is not the cheapest API to use. ChatGPT, right? They have a bunch of new features where you can kind of prime it for your specific work cases. And I like this one better.
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I'm trying to get the exact name of what they're calling it, but it's almost like siloing where you basically tell it what the area it should be thinking about is. to lower the computations it has to do, right? Because they charge you by usage. They saw AWS's model and they're like, what if we made it more expensive? Like, can we do that? So, yeah, it seems interesting that...
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Is that what kind of you're thinking for, not just talking about for your kids, but for yourself?
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They're almost acknowledging that to use their biggest, sexiest O1 for developers is just not viable cost-wise in many cases. So you've got 4.0 Mini now. You've got this way to... They call it prompt caching. Thank you. Prompt caching. Which is something that Claude from Anthropicus had for some time. But hey, we're not going to talk about it. It comes with 50% discounts on your tokens.
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I don't know why. I'm assuming because they must be getting some epic savings if you do these cash prompt. So I'm sure they're saving more money. But yeah, it all comes down to power and cost. And I'm really interested... To see, are they going to have to raise the rate they're charging per, you know, they have a stupid token unit thing they do.
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That is my thinking, right, for even non-game applications, right? I mean, the game use case is pretty obvious. Who doesn't like to look like a fool playing Beat Saber? But also, I think it's hard to over overwrought how. Getting it down to $299 is a huge deal, right? Let's switch light pricing. So that, you know. Right.
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But like, it's basically per, you know, computational watt hour, right? Because it, oh my God, Chris, we're going into like actual like 80 sci-fi now we're charging in watt hours.
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Yeah, I wonder if they have enough runway until this denser power comes on. I just doubt it. It seems like it's going to take years. So back to the nuclear thing for a second. Another nuke reactor on Lake Michigan has just closed a $1.5 billion loan to start. The reason why I mention that is because, first of all, this thing is going to produce power until 2051.
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It will create 600 local jobs, 15 different trade unions in there. But there's only three reactors total that can be restarted like this, and these are the two of them now. There's only one left, only one reactor left that can be kind of restarted before we have to start building. So they can only grow so much and they may or may not be able to put data centers near these things.
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The transmission is still a massive problem. What Amazon is looking at doing and what I think Microsoft is going to end up doing ultimately is they're going to look at building reactors and data centers on the same land.
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The same land. Well, so a couple of things, right? They're reopening Three Mile Island. Yeah. So yay. Yeah. I'm actually all for that. And Bill Gates happens to own or be significantly invested in a reactor company. And to be fair, reactor, you know, it's not 1962. Reactor design has come quite a long way. And frankly, it works for the French.
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You know, this is one thing where the EU, I think, was doing a better job, although Germany did just shut some down. I know there's a lot of fear around nuclear power. It's kind of not true. I mean, if you want a fictionalized fun account of the scariest possible outcomes, there's that TV show Chernobyl. But to be honest, it's based on the truth, but it's, of course, dramatized.
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But the truth is actually even dumber. There was nothing really wrong. It was just gross corruption and incompetence. Again, this is Russia. Something, something. They have no tank tires. Just saying. So I know there's going to be a lot of people who go knee-jerk, environmentalism, whatever.
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If you look at it, nuclear is actually... It's so weird how it got caught up in the environmentalist movement as an enemy. My conspiracy bacon is I'm 100% sure they were being paid off by coal lobbyists.
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Ooh, look at you bringing the coal bacon, which, honestly, tastes awful.
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Where I'm originally from, let me tell you, there are coal lobbyists, and they got a lot of money to throw around, especially up in Pennsylvania. Yeah, yeah. So...
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No, I'm with you. It always seems like it's a complementary thing. It works great with wind and solar.
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Right, right. It's always in the game, right? Always. Clean burning coal. This is a Pennsylvania bacon from Scranton. So enjoy.
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No, I mean nuclear. I think nuclear energy and solar and wind, like it doesn't have to be just one of these things, right? It can be all of these things. It shouldn't be one, right? But data centers, especially AI data centers, are really, really, really power hungry.
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I think one of the things you'll see them figure out is I would bet you, if we were making predictions, they're going to track the Bitcoin mining industry where they start doing methane capture for all the wells out there that are just off-gassing. Several Bitcoin mining companies, their sole existence now, is they go out to these sites where there's no transmission lines.
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My whole objection to the Vision Pro, it was a good demo, but it was, what was it, $3,500 or something like that?
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So the oil companies are just venting the methane into the air, lighting it on fire and burning it right there, which dumps methane, which is the strongest greenhouse gas there is. The miners show up. They cap it. They run that into a generator that has like a 98, 99 percent efficiency conversion.
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And then they mine Bitcoin right there on site because they have the Bitcoin miners in these containers like from the back of a truck that they just drop off depending on the scale of the operation. They put a Starlink or an LTE modem there. And the things just convert that methane off gas into Bitcoin. And then they can profit share with the oil company.
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or the owner of the land, or however the arrangement works. And I would bet you you'll see something similar with AI, is they'll work with these companies that have these methane off-gases that you can cap, you can run a generator. And the tricky part is you just need, in their case, you're going to need connection.
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But depending on what the stuff is doing, like if it's doing processing work, you might be able to set up an array of Starlinks, and you might be able to have an AI in a crate, sitting on a site that's capturing gas that doesn't have the transmission lines to go anywhere. That's interesting. And maybe help reduce methane emissions. I mean, they could get on that same track.
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I thought it was, I don't know, too much. Too much. Yeah. And that's before you get accessories. Yeah, but you mentioned Microsoft this week announced they killed the HoloLens 2, which launched in 2019. Yeah. Microsoft does have a military contract, so they're going to be supporting the devices until 2025. So you got Meta's whole Orion AR platform with the Horizon OS.
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Are they going to have to spring Sam Altman from jail to do this? You went SBF level crazy there. That was like, okay.
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You know, and his lady friend just got 24 months in jail.
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Oh, man. And he has a new fun cellmate, I heard. Oh, is that true? Is that true? It seems wild. How could that be true?
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Yeah. Well, I tell you what, there's definitely a slipperier cell, if that's true. So we're talking about P. Diddy apparently is now Sam Altman's cellmate.
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You can't believe a thousand things of baby oil, or you can't believe that they'd be in the same cell. Yeah, the same cell thing. All right, let's look this up. Real-time research.
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It just seems so impossible. What are the chances? I mean... Do they only have one celebrity cell? That can't be the case.
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According to Business Insider... And he is now hiring a lawyer who represents SBF. Look at that. Not only are they roommates, they're going to share a lawyer.
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Worked out great for Sam, I guess. Wow. Wow. Today I learned. Four score and seven boosts to go. All right. We have some boos to get into. And Coffee or Death came in as our baller booster with 70,368 sets. Hey, Rich Law! Giving a shout out to Team Toronto on Matrix. So if you're in the area, head on over there. And if you don't know where our Matrix server is, you can find it at coda.show.matrix.
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And then you'll find the Team Toronto room if you're in that area. He says, I hope everyone is safe and healthy. Remember, you didn't lose any good people over the week off. Or whatever it was I said last week. Things ebb and flow. Take care of yourselves in the community. We'll help take care of the rest.
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I'm looking forward to the next episode when you're both in good places and have the space to think about The Coder Show.
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Oh, thank you. Thank you, Coffee. Everything worked out fine.
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I did see you busted out your – what is that battery pack that you have called?
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My Jackery baby. See, they should sponsor us. I'm just saying. I would agree. I love the Jackery. I love the Jackery. I have the baby Jackery. You probably have a bigger one.
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It's totally right up my alley. It was on sale during whatever Amazon's thing is, just for the little guy. I ended up not having to use it too much. But just to keep everybody's phones charged and laptops charged, pretty good. You know what was weird? We didn't lose cell service. Oh, that's good. I was surprised. Yeah. So it was the situation where I could actually work.
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Okay, Chris, you're going to make fun of me. I still have and pay for a Verizon. Remember the jetpacks? They used to call them.
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Yeah, sure. Yeah. I just like it. It's a 5G connection. You got a backup. Yeah. And you know what? As long as you're not like futzing around on YouTube or anything, I can basically work with no interruption provided the cell service. So do folks know what these things are, right? Or is this too old?
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OK. And it holds a charge for like two days. So between that and just plugging in my MacBook, the literally half hour I needed to charge it up a little bit, which I thought was hilarious. The battery life is just great. I was able to, you know, do I mean, of course, I was not focused on work. Right. I was more worried about the hurricane.
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but I was able to do a quick maintenance thing I had to do on a server and just make sure, God forbid, there was also an outage. I could have responded to that. Luckily, there wasn't.
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Especially if you have a business, I think it's worth having a backup.
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It's worth it. I wish I had gotten a bigger one, actually.
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Have you seen the Starlink Mini? It's just a little guy. You just need a clear shot of the northern sky.
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What if there's a gator flying through the air at the same time?
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Yeah, I don't know. That can block signal. That can be a problem, I believe.
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Microsoft announced that they were going to be getting involved with that. We speculated if that meant the end of days for HoloLens, and I think it does. I think this is – it's not that Microsoft's pulling out of this entire market. It's that they're going to get behind the Orion and the Horizon OS and the Quest stuff, yeah.
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And he says, y'all triggered me on this one. I ended up as a high school Algebra 2 teacher after retiring from the Navy instead of going into coding. Thanks to Florida legislation, the schools are more like a prison than ever. Regardless of what time it is, all interior and exterior doors and gates have to be locked at all times if a student is on campus.
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So my kids' sporting events, and of course my kids just started going to sporting events, just set in a whole new set of rules where you're not allowed to bring a bag in. You can bring a kind of like a purse-sized bag if it's clear, if you get one that's clear that they can look at. And once you are in the game, you are not allowed to leave or you cannot come back in.
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So, you know, for somebody like me who might bring down our dog because it's going to be ours. And so what I will typically do is he and I will trade off and a couple of times during the game, we'll step out and go walk Levi and then put him back in the car. If you see me, the temperature's right. Make sure he's OK.
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What matters is our host. He survived. Mr. Dominic. Hello, Mike. You made it. I made it. Everything okay over there? Like, quite seriously? Like, everything good? Yeah.
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And some places, you know, you know, for years we've even been able to bring Levi, you know, to watch on the side of the grass or something like. So it's anyways, it's not be able to go back and forth really stinks. And. my wife is a type one diabetic, so we need to be able to bring snacks. It's like, we've got to figure out something for the bag thing.
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And all of this is supposedly in the name of safety, I guess, but it's, it's pretty bad.
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It's just sad. I mean, it's just what I, it wasn't like this for us, right? You know, if you wanted to go to the school basketball game, you could just walk in.
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And if you had to like pee, you could walk out. It's just, yeah. My kids' schools are like this too. I know I mentioned it on our last show. It's, It's funny. They put in metal detectors and they said they were temporary. They don't seem to be moving.
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And now they're spending – I believe there's like a contract. So this is, again, corruption bacon. You know somebody is getting a contract to maintain this stuff. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So it feels like a not positive educational environment when it does very strongly resemble a – Prison. Minimum security prison. Right.
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Yeah. He also sent a row of ducks in. Side note, he's been wanting an Apple Fold since the first Samsung comes out. He'd like to see one, though, with the Apple Pencil. The Note 4 had one. That was the last Android device he used. He said he loved the stylus with that one.
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Uncle Steve says, no, you have 10 styluses on your hand.
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Man, I would love to see a Fold device that has pencil support.
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I would, too. Yeah. I actually think it's a great idea. I would like to see a folding tablet.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, screw the phone. Make the phone as small as possible and give me a folding tablet. And if I want to bring the tablet with me, I can fit it.
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To be clear, we should probably talk about Horizon OS, right? It's basically Android. Good old Android couldn't ship a tablet if their life depended on it. But hell, they'll be the base of Facebook's new operating system. So, yeah.
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I got to play around with a Samsung Fold again. It's nice. You want the folding phone.
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Hmm. All right, we'll see. We'll see. Paul J. comes in with a row of McDucks, 22,222 sats. Things are looking up for old McDuck. Here's a little something towards Mike's new roof fund. Well, there you go.
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Yeah, it's all right. Good, good. Nostromo, I think is how I say it, comes in with 20,000 sacks. Never tell me the odds. I have nearly four years worth of Huawei phones. The battery still lasts two full days. The camera is great, and the form factor is just perfect. Unfortunately... It no longer receives Android updates. I've been stuck on Android 10.
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Apps like Slack started to nag me about the end of life a few months ago. So what does it take for me to change my phone? Well, probably just a few more decisions by tech leads. But how much time they want to invest in old Android versions, really. It's a shame that we live in a world where software dictates that when my phone is broken and not the actual state of the hardware.
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We haven't had a fun Android update limit in a long time. Yeah, that's pretty terrible.
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Yeah, I think the situation's gotten better on Android, but still with specific devices and specific scenarios. I think I saw with the Pixel 9, Google promising seven years of updates. That's pretty good, but you've got to be on a Pixel and you've got to be using their branch and all that. I think they said 7. I don't know.
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If you go to the Verizon store, aren't they just handing you a Pixel when you walk in, though?
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Yeah, I don't know. I think those ones, unfortunately, are locked, which is a bummer. Oh, nice. Torped comes in with 9,999 sats. It's over 9,000! Do either of you ever architect software with a particular... Diagram system. Circles, squares, polygons. What's your go-to? Do you ever diagram it? Oh, do you?
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I sure do. Okay. So I use this great app. It's called Graph Paper and a Pencil.
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I've tried. I have paid stupid amounts of money for all kinds of like native or web apps to do this. And I just keep going back to my old way in terms of shapes. It depends on what level. Right. So I do UML diagrams for like database structure schema. I stick more or less to the standard of what you would get in like your your CS 101.
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Yeah, and I think it's going to serve them well because when you get into multi-application work modes, you're going to have Slack on there. You're going to have your signal and telegrams and element chats and all the stuff you use. So basically any Android app you need to get your work done, it's going to be usable in some sort of Horizon OS work environment.
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You know, I guess I would be on database design 101, but whatever. Right. Um, then if you go a level up, I actually, I shouldn't say this cause I'm going to make Adam way too happy. I've kind of adopted a lot of the event modeling and event sourcing kind of stuff.
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It's annoying because I've been resisting it for years, but it does – one, it's a more clear, kind of shorter way to diagram it out than diagramming every single component. And son of a bear, it does work. Okay, Canadians, have fun. Enjoy.
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There you go. You know, I'm impressed at the entire world of diagramming software from really, really basic stuff, circles and squares, all the way up to something that tries to output some kind of code that you can consume. And I always see various versions in software demos. The amount of time that goes into doing that. It strikes me as, well, I'd rather just be making the app.
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I mean, I found if you really, I really, like if I have to do a presentation, obviously I can't just like whip out my graph paper and hold it up to the Google, you know, Google chat camera. OmniGraffle is pretty good. I think it's called Lucidchart, which runs in Google Suite. It's not bad. So I know someone who is in love with Microsoft Projects. I cry when I see it.
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Oh, yeah, man. Oh, yeah. I have lived that pain. I have lived it. Yeah, I know that one. Curiosia comes in with 10,000 sats. I am your father. Says you're spot on about what's going on with the kids.
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I know a bunch of teachers and they all say that they can tell which kids have parents that are involved versus ones that are performatively involved versus the ones where the parents have totally checked out. FYI, the ones they hate are the helicopter Karen's. The kids are worse than the parents and the parents are terrible.
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But long way around, they notice more parents are completely disengaged and those kids seem to be suffering. Yeah, I think I've noticed that in the neighborhood, too, just with the neighborhood friends. He says, for the California AI bill, it would have ended up like the export control on crypto. The open source devs or groups will just move out of California. It's a cool story, Newsome.
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But get rekt. I live in Germany now. Yeah, you do see that. You could see companies moving out to Texas or whatnot. But again, if they're going to... Are you going to move all of Google? No.
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I've got to say, I don't like this bill you passed, so I'm moving to Germany. It's a pretty hardcore move.
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It's very rare that people can actually do that. It's very rare. Maybe Elon can and Joe Rogan can, but I don't know if Google could or Apple could. I don't think Apple would want to. There's that. I think they would just comply with the regulation. Some would, though. And some of the open source devs that are working at a smaller scale, yeah, they probably could. Alex Gates comes in with 10,000.
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You're doing a good job. The original Pixel Buds A series don't have conversation detection. The pros and newer do. Thank you, Alex. I've been trying to figure out why I didn't get that conversation. That seems like such a great feature. So I'm putting that on the wish list for Christmas. Appreciate the boost. The Immunologist comes in with 3,333 sats. Coming in hot with the boost.
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Follow-up on the iPhone 8. I am running iOS 16. So far, I can update all the apps. Also, it has not become too slow to use, which seems to be some of the use cases with some of the other earlier Apple devices I used. But yes, I agree. The end may be near. Rocking the iPhone 8 with iOS 16. That's like vintage. Man, I day one installed iOS 18. I do that. Same with Android. I did too. Did you?
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Yeah. But the – it just – It seems like they're doing everything right. Now, I don't know if they're taking a loss on these devices. I would imagine they are. It seems like $2.99 is too low. But that alone, that's going to make the market, right? Think about it. You've got a kid, 12, whatever. It's Christmas. Christmas is coming. Hanukkah is coming.
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First couple of days, I had my launch board crash. Oh, really? Yeah, a couple times.
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I also got the new cheapo AirPods because mine were dying.
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I prefer the old shape. When I say my old ones, I had the OG AirPods. I like the old shape better, but I didn't have a choice.
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Yeah. Sohang comes in with 5,555 sats. Put some macaroni and cheese on there, too. He says that episode was too spicy for him. I forgot what it was that we did. Not the crumbling social fabric of America. I know. I don't remember. I don't know. Sometimes we say stuff that gets people all kinds of worked up, and we don't mean to. But we just also have to acknowledge that...
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I think one of the differentiating factors of Coda Radio is that we have a different way of viewing some of these things. And just about every other tech podcast has essentially the same take on everything going on. And we talk about stuff that – I think if you talk about it honestly, it helps you prepare and plan.
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Right. You don't have to agree. Right. I mean, I listen to all the all the kind of, you know, whatever, bigger podcasts. And I don't necessarily agree, but sometimes they'll say something and I'm like, you know what? You're probably right. But change your mind. Good to have multiple perspectives.
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And I do think it's not for everybody. Yeah. Yeah. That is true. Anonymous comes in with 5,000 sats. That's a Jar Jar boost.
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Regarding the California bill, the way it targets open sources feels like an attack on the open Lama and Zuckerberg stuff. Here's Zuck discussing how open source will win in the long run. He links us to a YouTube video. Oh, yeah. I saw this one. Scott Wiener, the bill sponsor, is number three in the top donations from OpenAI in 2024.
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He's firmly supporting this bill, Representative Wiener.
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Also, some of the other folks that I were funding that bill had ties to the Effective Altruism Group, which I'm not a big fan of what they've produced so far.
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Really? You don't want to flip a coin a hundred times and half the time it destroys the world with the other half it makes it paradise?
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Yeah, I guess. I guess. Yeah. I kind of am crazy. I guess. DPG comes in with 6,666 sats. The traders love the ball. Boost for my long email on the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board. Thank you, DPG. Yes. He says stay safe.
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Yeah. Well, we can tell, and we like it. We like it. Odyssey Westrick comes in with 4,444 sats.
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He was boosting our live testing, so we are now live in the Podcasting 2.0 feed, so you can just listen in your podcast player. And he boosted in, testing it out for us, which we appreciate. Thank you, sir. T. Cairo comes in with 10,010 sats.
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Priority clearance recognition alpha one. Oh, that's a good one.
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The Windows kernel issue seems like something that could easily be resolved by Microsoft being required to develop capabilities that you can hook into the Windows kernel from an external vendor point of view. Yeah, I wonder if DTrace, like BHH pointed out, Microsoft cannot implement any security measures that would be considered competition to other antivirus or similar products.
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Yes, I know that is one of the restrictions. He says this. Then if they want to provide a reasonable security product themselves, they are running through the same loops any other company would. This provides a more secure environment for its users. So essentially, they could take advantage of the tools they create.
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Right. Yeah, I feel like there's a missing piece I still don't understand. If the detrace mechanism would work for that and it's been available, as BHH says, then why would vendors like CrowdStrike do it any other way?
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$2.99 is in the ballpark of what you might buy as a gift and not rent your garments over.
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Could it just be the simple solution of – Yeah, legacy, right? Like it's hard to make investments when you're not going to have some whiz-bang thing you could put on the box, so to speak. I don't know.
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Yeah, why rewrite something that's kind of core to the product that's working, hasn't had a big problem, so many other things to focus on.
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Well, I mean, who among us has not written like a for loop that they put a comment, we'll refactor later. But it turns out, you know, the for loop's fast enough and it gets the job done and your customer's asking for new features. They don't care about how, you know, that screen got populated. So I don't know. I just... I think it's just the normal trudging of software development.
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Nothing can do that. Bobby Penn did. He says, I was testing out the live stream. It got me thinking, though. Could you all keep a stream going? Could there be an always on stream?
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I thought you did. I thought you have like a JB live stream.
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Yeah, you got it. JB live dot FM. You can put that in your web browser. And it's always playing old episodes. Now, he says, what would be nice is if I could somehow get the show notes with what's playing with, you know, connect to the 24-7 stream. That's not bad.
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Yeah, I think maybe our Icecast host has an API where you could get the track that's currently playing and then maybe we could link that to the show notes. If anybody wanted to build that, you better believe we'd like to implement that. That's a great idea. But if you'd just like to tune in, you can go to jblive.fm and reruns.
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It's also in the price range where if you're buying it for yourself, you could probably, you know, if you're doing okay, you could buy one for your spouse too because it's otherwise a very isolating experience. But at $299, maybe when you decide to pull the trigger, you decide to buy two and then you can do a lot of the co-op play together stuff and then it's not so isolating.
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I think a couple of years worth of Coda Radio are on there, a couple of years worth of Linux Unplugged and some of the – really a lot of the old shows. It just kind of plays from current episodes back, just JBLive.fm. And then we break in with live shows a couple times a week. Listener Jeff comes in with a Jar Jar Boost, 5,000 sats. You're so boost. Testing out the live stream for us.
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So thank you everybody who boosted in. We really appreciate it. This show right now, no sponsors. It is completely listener supported by our members and by our boosters. And if you'd like to support the show with a boost and send your message in, just send it above 2,000 sats. Booster on in and we'll read it here on the show.
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Something like fountain.fm or any of the podcast apps listed at podcastapps.com. We had 31 listeners that were streaming sats as they listened to the show, so we stacked 17,750 sats just with the streamers. Then when you combine that with the folks that wrote in and boosted, we stacked 262,869 sats. Thank you, everybody who supports the show. Coder.show slash membership.
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If you'd like to put it on autopilot, I'll have a link to the annual membership in the show notes. And of course, with the new podcast app, not only can you now listen live to the show in your podcast app of choice, but you could also boost the show, support us directly with no middleman, and get your message read on the show. Thank you, everybody. Okay. That's just fun.
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So before we get out of here, let's keep talking a little bit more about your buddy, Zuck.
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I like that we're like bosom buddies now. This is good.
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And a chain. Sweet. I think you could probably find a Zuck wig and just go all in.
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Yeah, well, we're good. I mean, unfortunately, you know, folks in the area, definitely, there was some... Really sadly, some loss of life and a lot of damage.
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Wait, is he going to make me go to the gym, though, to learn whatever it is? What does he do? Jiu-jitsu or MMA? Karate. I don't know. Oh, God. I don't know.
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So I mentioned Orion earlier. I want to talk a little bit more about this. So this is an impressive set of demos that they've done. It's only demo hardware at this point, but it is actually quite good. And the technology seems to be kind of like iPhone levels breakthrough when the industry was still on BlackBerrys. I'll just play a little bit of Zuck introducing the devices here to set the stage.
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So it's just, I think it's really important that you set that. So this is sort of maybe the bottom of the price. We're going to see probably other devices in different price ranges between this and Apple Vision Pro. But I think your earlier point is probably fair because I don't think it appeals to people our age and older. I mean, to a degree, but more as a gimmick.
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So the puck goes in your pocket. It's totally wireless. They're using micro projectors inside what are bulky glasses. And they overlay AR apps in what are pass-through lenses. And they let tech journalists, quote unquote, use it. They let several people look at it. People are saying it's genuinely impressive.
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You know, they were kind of pre-stage demos, of course, but kind of going to what you're saying, maybe it's not a giant face computer, but it's a pair of AR glasses that have a computer in their pocket. Maybe that computer is their phone. Maybe it's something else. This seems like a platform people would actually be willing to put on their face because it's not snow. It's not snow goggles. It's.
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more like sunglasses. And again, it's not a shipping product, but it's pretty impressive because they've also paired it with a wrist strap that is watching the electrical nerve signals in your hands and using that to interact with the UI in the Orion environment. And so instead of having to do hand tracking or have controllers, this wrist strap is
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is watching your nerve system, essentially, your pulses in your nerve system, and interpreting that as gestures in the UI. And that is going to get used in all kinds of metaproducts. They've been teasing this for about nine months now or so, this product that you could use with the Quest or now with these Orion glasses.
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And so they have this whole system, the wireless puck that goes in your pocket, the glasses with the integrated battery and display, the wrist strap that watches your nerves. It's kind of, I mean, it's early, but it's kind of like, it's kind of a leap, I think, in this technology.
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I think we're going to get there, right? I listened to the whole interview with him, and the problem seems to be, which it always is, right, that the prototype is like 10 grand.
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So, but that's just how products are designed. They're always too expensive.
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Didn't they say they made like a thousand of them or something like that?
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Yeah, they have like a whole group internally who's using them. I just want to say that very lucky for Zuck that the buddy holiday glasses came back.
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I think in an office place, this is way more acceptable than goggles that actually cover your eyes.
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Exactly. And when you forget to take them off at the bar and go to the urinal, you're less likely to get punched in the face. So that's a plus.
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You know, I actually think it's equivalent, some equivalency. It's not as, not as going to be as easy, but AirPods...
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really stood out these white airpods that everybody wore were you know really kind of unique and then as time has gone on like when you go to the airport almost everybody has airpods or they have some kind of you know headphone system you know big old bulky like noise cancelling headphones and we've completely normalized people walking around downtown
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I don't think it has the actual sticking power that it does like it does with the kids. I think for them, it's like the next obvious step up from a phone. They're not going to go to the computer. That's like old, right? It's weird. It's slow. My kids have laptops, but they also really like VR, and they definitely prefer their mobile devices over their laptops.
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Wearing either AirPods or big, you know, headphones. And I don't really think it's much different than that. It just goes over your eyes. But as long as you can still see them, they can see you and you're just pulling up ancillary information. I think this could be socially acceptable. I'm not saying it should. But in a way, it's kind of better than looking down at your phone.
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It's more socially acceptable than looking at your phone all the time.
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Yes, it makes it easier to pretend like you're listening to somebody when you're really just scrolling Twitter. I agree.
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I can see your glasses are flashing. Are you listening to me?
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Oh, my God. You're going to have kids taking them to school, putting, like, tape on the light so no one can see.
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But we're really getting a sense of what they spend all that R&D money on. You know, like... I think that's why they're showing this off is like, Hey, here's some results that we've got. And by the way, vague AI implied integration here that's going to be gangbusters, right? They can do that too.
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He said in the interview that he did with The Verge that, you know, he made a bet that the AR stuff would happen before the AI stuff and he was just wrong, right? So that, you know, they really are killing it. I was not a quest believer before, but yeah, turns out if you just stick with something and iterate on it, you can actually get there.
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A little acquisition news. TMB Mad Botter has been bought by Meta. No, I'm kidding.
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Gosh. Well, I guess I'm not really saying that we're going to see these in a year or two. But five years? Five years? I could see it. I don't know if the problem is I just don't think I want Meta to be the company I buy these from.
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Well, you don't have a choice, Chris. This is... So, okay, the bad part. Zuck kind of thinks he's Augustus, you know, the Caesar. Yeah. I've noticed. I've noticed that vibe. He's walking around in custom t-shirts with weird Latin phrases on them. There's definitely a kind of imperial thing going on here. So, you know, I...
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Do you think this is their iPhone moment, as some of the tech press are putting it? No, this is not going to be an iPhone moment.
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It has to be shipping, right? So, one, it has to be shipping, right? You could just leave it there. It's not shipped. And we should remember, when the iPhone came out, it initially wasn't gangbusters, right? One, it was too expensive. Well, we have to go through the history of the iPhone, but... Didn't have a keyboard. Didn't have a keyboard, which was a huge dig on it, right?
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And actually, it didn't have the fastest cellular antennas for the first generation or so.
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And it was on a shitty carrier called Singular in the U.S.
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Yeah. We'll see. The problem for the Zuckman is by the time he can get this down to where it's a viable commercial product that people might be able to afford, what else is going to happen in the industry?
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Right. And now they've sort of tipped their cards. People are going to be working harder on their solutions.
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Or maybe they won't copy this, right? Like you mentioned the AirPods. What about, and they're kind of getting there with the new AirPods Pro, but how about we run the AirPods forward five years? Do they become your AI interface?
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Well, they definitely could become part of the controller input. You know, like they have the new shake the head to accept or reject notifications and interact with Siri. It seems to me that the AirPods are actually just perfect for more sensors, temperature sensors.
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Things that you could feed into the watch for health information and stuff that you could feed into a VR slash AR environment for position, for head tracking, for acknowledgement of notifications without actually having to move your hands. Yeah, I think they have to go that direction. And I think they're uniquely positioned to integrate all that stuff.
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And I wouldn't be surprised if we did see our kids and younger start to really take to this as a primary computing platform, especially for work, because just experimenting with it, I can see where it's at today at a ground level. This is before they've made a lot of the improvements and changes in new hardware. It's already getting pretty usable.
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I'll tell you, I am strongly considering buying a second pair of AirPods just because I, one, got the cheap ones, and two, to have two. I hate not having my AirPods. I use them all the time around the house.
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You should get the pros and tell me how the conversational awareness is.
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my problem with the pros is I hate the soft padding on earphones. Cause my ears are, this is a little gross. My ears get very waxy and that soft padding kind of gunks up. Sure. So I, if they made them in the hard, I don't know what they call that. Just, you know, the, the part that goes in your ear, right. Just, just like they do with the regular ones.
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I would be more interested, but I do like that conversational awareness stuff. That is really, that does look cool in the demo.
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Yeah, I'd love to know if people have tried that with the AirPods. Sounds like it's pretty decent with the PixelPods. Boost it and tell us. I guess also I'd like to know, we didn't bring it up directly in the show, but since we're wrapping up, my question would be, how do you feel about big tech leading the restart of the nuke reactors? It's going to be fine.
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Well, I can imagine there's some people. I guess to me the concern would be, would you rather this was a state-run initiative or a private company-run initiative? It seems like both would have pros and cons. That's really what I'm asking. Write in and boost it and let us know. Mr. Dominic, where should people find you throughout the week?
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You could go check out alice.dev for all your automation and ETL needs.
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alice.dev, I think I will. You can find me on the Nostraverse if you like. You could just go to chrislas.com. I'm also chrislas on WeaponX. I don't really tweet there much, but I do respond if you tweet at me. Links to what we talked about today are at Coder.show slash 589.
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Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the Coder Radio program. See you right back here next week.
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Yeah, I think we're going to get there, right? I mean, I'm just looking at my workstation here. I have my 27-inch 4K, whatever it is, monitor. I have a mechanical keyboard that's louder than a dog barking. My laptop. It theoretically all I would need is one visor. I get effectively unlimited screen real estate. Right. Yeah. Multiple windows.
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I'm glad we took time to prepare. You probably have it down by now, I imagine, for the big storms coming in.
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And I guess I could still use the physical keyboard, but I'm sure there's a way around that, too. I don't know. We're not there yet. Right. But it's possible.
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So Mr. Nick gives us real time. It is it is thirty five hundred dollars new.
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I think where I got twenty five is I just checked on eBay like a few days ago just to see.
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Which is terrible. Are they still on the Vision Pro for $2,500 now? Maybe I saw it for that.
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That's a hell of a loss. $1,000 off retail just came out.
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$2,700. The 256 gig used. This one must be bad. Oh, it's not a buy now, but it's going for a current bid of $1,027.
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OK, but they think that'll get bid up, I'm sure. Probably, yeah.
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In various price ranges, but I actually see several on here for $2,500. Huh. Yeah, that's not a great – that's not a typical value to hold for Apple. All right. Well, we got some feedback this week. BHH wrote in asking if there was any interest in the community in developing applications and applets for Cosmic.
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He says, I'm currently working through the process of creating an applet for it with no documentation on how to get it on the panel or panel settings. I'm about 75% of the way there. I did manage to get it in the panel. And I'm wondering if making a tutorial on it would be worth it. So I guess boost in or write in and let us know. I wonder if others are looking at Cosmic.
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It seems sort of trivial to talk about it, but did you see... That your buddy Zuck is really trying to get your business? Not only did he try, he succeeded. Oh, did he? Did you pre-order a MetaQuest 3S? I sure did, just before the show. Wow, really? Really. So, okay, why? What made you decide the MetaQuest 3S is it again? Because you've tried the Quest 2 or 3, I think?
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I recall we used to talk about this when new Linux desktop environments were coming along. We would ponder if their toolkit and all that was worth the investment of time. But we have kind of just – with the rise of web applications, we've kind of just let that go, I think.
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I mean I would even say like is anybody other than like very large professional applications or weird glass menagerie style, pet it because it's beautiful, indie Mac developers – One or two still exist. Let's not be that sad. Is anybody really developing desktop apps now? I mean, everything I'm doing is, even if I wrap it in, like, Electron or something like that, it's just a web app. I'm sorry.
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And we're all just going to live with it. I'll just buy more RAM. It's fine.
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RAM is very, very cheap. So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, all right, let's see what I have open right now. This is a fun game. I have Slack, which is Electron. Discord, which is not even trying to hide that it's Electron.
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Airmail, that's one of my... Okay. That is a precious native map.
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Native map, yeah. You're in the Matrix chat, so you probably have Element running, which is... Element running.
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Electron. Chrome, which is looking at all the other Electron apps and being like, children.
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Everything the sun touches is my kingdom, is what Chrome is saying. It's the Mufasa of repressors.
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preview but that's because i had to review pdf before this uh okay yeah and the stuff that that mac just opens right like yeah oh man i don't know why every time i'm working somehow the icon for the tv app pops up it's like you could just like watch uh something else like slack off for an hour but that's it of the apps i voluntarily put on this bar They're almost all electron.
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It's horrible. And the only one that's not is obviously Chrome, but I would argue, you know, it's Chrome. And Fantastical, which, again, is one of those precious Mac apps I bought a long time ago. Yeah, it's not cheap either. It's not cheap, but if they try to move me to that subscription model, I'm probably not going to do it. I don't care. I use my phone for all that stuff now.
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And to be honest, because I use Gmail, you know, Google, whatever they call it, Google... Is it Google Work still, or is it Google Suite?
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G Suite now, okay. Yeah, their web calendar is actually really good.
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I'm disappointed, but I know. Sean wanted to give us some follow-up on something like eBPF for Windows. He says, you know, Windows actually has DTrace. He says he does believe that CrowdStrike could build something that uses DTrace to trap kernel syscalls and inspect behavior inside the kernel.
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He said, if I were Microsoft, I'd be working to build an entitlement into the kernel capability system, which would allow use of DTrace for certain signed pieces of software. Right now, if you enable DTrace, it's enabled for the whole system, and it's fantastic for bug hunting and hacking. Yeah, good old Brandon Gregg, right, in DTrace. That is a great point.
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I forgot that Microsoft had ported that over, and I didn't realize that companies like CrowdStrike could take advantage of it.
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Windows 14, okay, so we're going into the future, although the way they name things, who knows, is going to be a Debian-based Linux distribution with a modernized Windows user shell on top of it.
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All right. I mean I would be – I don't think I'd be too surprised to be honest with you. I don't think I would be.
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I think it makes a lot of sense, right? Unless they have so – they're afraid of legacy and they have so much – but they're getting there. They're weirdly getting there, right? And they're showing such little care for the legacy Windows applications that are on there.
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Yeah, that's definitely accelerating. I've definitely noticed that.
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Yeah, like just use WSL. You're a developer. Have fun. It's fine.
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Well, I've got a couple of quick announcements for you. Number one is we finally have an annual members program for the Jupiter Party. Some of you have been asking for a way to subscribe annually. So this is for all the shows. So you get the Coderly, you get the extra feeds for Linux Unplugged, you get the self-hosted post show and more.
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But also, when you sign up with the annual plan, you get one month for free. We just take one month off as a thank you for becoming a member annually. So I have a link to that in the show notes. I don't have like a special URL for it yet, but I know some of you have been asking for this. So it's here now. You can support all the shows on an annual membership basis. We really appreciate that.
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Now, announcement number two. Coder Radio is now live in the Podcasting 2.0 app. So if you already have a Podcasting 2.0 app or you've been wanting to try one, now, before we go live, we'll have a pending item in your library. So you can see, oh, yep, the show's going to be, it looks like Tuesday this week at noon Pacific. Okay, great.
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So yeah, I have it too. Kids play with it. You know what it was? I think, Chris, there's a generational thing here. You and I, I mean, I think we get it, right? Like what it does. But these younger kids, I'm talking like preteens, you know, that like come to my house and all that kind of fun stuff, you know, friends of kids, right? Yeah. they love it.
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And when we actually go live, you'll be able to hit play right there in your podcast player and just tune into the live stream as we're doing the show. Or as I'm doing the pre-show or the post-show, whatever it might be. It'll be right there now in your podcasting 2.0 app of choice. We are lit, as they call it, which is the live item tag. It's pretty exciting.
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And all you need is a new podcast app at podcastapps.com. Well, last week we talked about this pretty aggressive AI regulation bill in California. It had some good bits. It had some kind of harsh bits for open source. And it appears that Gavin Newsom has vetoed SB 1047, citing concerns of burdening AI companies.
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The bill's broad application and its potential to hinder innovation while not actually fully addressing all the risks of AI. He cited multiple factors in his decision, including the burden the bill would have placed on AI companies.
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Quote, while well-intentioned, SB 1047 does not take into account whether AI systems is deployed in a high-risk environment, involves critical decision-making, or the use of sensitive data. Instead, the bill applies stringent standards to even the most basic functions, so long as a large system deploys it.
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I do not believe this is the best approach to protecting public from real threats posed by this technology." He says that the bill would give the public a, quote, false sense of security, saying, quote, So he's kind of saying there, like, You know, some of these smaller models may be the problem, and we don't think this addresses this enough.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
And I was concerned that it does – it burdens the open source developer too much with all of the having, like, hire somebody to audit stuff on an annual basis, et cetera. And Newsom is still open overall to regulation. He says, let me be clear. I agree with the author. We cannot afford to wait for a major catastrophe to occur before taking action to protect the public.
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589: Blame the Tools using the Tools
California will not abandon its responsibility. Safety protocols must be adopted. Proactive guardrails should be implemented. And severe consequences for bad actors must be clear and enforceable. I do not agree, however, that to keep the public safe, that we must settle for a solution that is not informed by empirical trajectory analysis of AI systems and capabilities.
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Local Hour: Are The Florida Panthers The Biggest Thing In Town?
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Local Hour: Are The Florida Panthers The Biggest Thing In Town?
Honestly. You're cutting corners. I admit it. My gift for the white elephant today is in a gift bag.
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Local Hour: Are The Florida Panthers The Biggest Thing In Town?
You're asking this the day of the holiday party. I love holiday parties. I like celebrating a year that was, even if some places it's difficult. It's kind of like, hey, we made it through. It's a time for optimism. I like... gathering with folks. I typically don't. We spend a lot of time with one another here and we don't spend a lot of time away from the office together.
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Local Hour: Are The Florida Panthers The Biggest Thing In Town?
You said care deeply, and certainly in pockets, people care deeply, but I'm not one of those Panther fans that gets super defensive. We're building. There are plenty of reasons why this was a struggling hockey market, mostly on ownership after they moved into the new building. This is the first sustained run of excellence from this franchise. ever.
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They've had outliers, a little flash in the pans, won a cup appearance in 1996, didn't do much with that momentum, moved to a new place. They had one year where they win the Atlantic and then they kind of disappear and fall off. So this team with its young core.
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I think, look, This franchise, had it built on the momentum of 96, we'd probably see something a little bit closer to Tampa, which is just one of the best hockey towns in the country. But that's not our story. And people want to make fun of the parade while it's raining. I look at that and it warms my heart because of where this franchise was.
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Local Hour: Are The Florida Panthers The Biggest Thing In Town?
We are so far beyond where we were, and we're still building. And I think another Cup run will just keep building on that success. And Roy, I'm curious your opinion, not just because you're wearing a Panthers jersey and you love hockey and you have the hockey show, but you've been there through the lean years. And this team...
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with its stars because it's been a pretty transient franchise it's not often that you have guys stick through several years guys like barkov who've been here who've grown into men who's he's still a young man but he's been here over a decade a guy that wants the sardom that wants a platform wants to grow the game like matthew kachuk these guys are building a connection with this town in ways that hockey teams only did in 1996 for a fleeting moment
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Local Hour: Are The Florida Panthers The Biggest Thing In Town?
So to be able to have a drink and lighten the mood and listen to some music, exchange some gifts, it's a great time.
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It's a weird way to judge this. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Maybe even the Dolphins? No, that's never going to happen. Look, it's still difficult to walk into a sports bar in at least Miami-Dade County and find the TV on a Panther game. It's becoming more commonplace. You don't have to ask for it as much. I occasionally go into sports bars and they have the sound on for huge games.
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Local Hour: Are The Florida Panthers The Biggest Thing In Town?
I think it's building and a little bit of self-awareness. There's no way hockey ever matches the NFL in this town. But it did in Tampa, and they built on success over there. So it's not impossible in this state, but just as a market demographically, Tampa is much different than the Tri-County area down here.
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Local Hour: Are The Florida Panthers The Biggest Thing In Town?
That's a bit of a pipe dream, but it certainly challenged the Miami Heat in terms of local interest.
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that was happening the panthers had been eliminated from their bubble but i would say that yeah like dating back to three years ago the panthers if they were on at the same time the panthers would would get the sound we're going on an olympiad now where the panthers have usurped the the miami heat in in my opinion and the miami heat have had two two well two real deep runs uh two finals appearances uh in that time but the panthers have also had two finals appearances i
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I just love the team. I love the connection with it. I love the sport. I think if you compare them in direct comparison with one another, they're going in opposite directions, the Miami Heat and the Florida Panthers.
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No doubt. When he blocked Jason Tatum at the rim, that was Miami versus Boston. And Florida was out of the NHL playoffs in their bubble. No doubt. I was more of a Heat guy then, I guess. But in the years that followed, keep in mind, that was a while ago. I've become a Panther guy.
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Yeah, I don't think they've wrestled the 10 away. I still think hockey down here, in Miami-Dade County especially, it still has a way to go to even catch this fledgling Miami Heat incarnation across the street. It's still got a way to go, but I'm super fine with that.
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I'm super cool with this really exciting time down here locally where you get to build on something and you bring more and more people to the tent. More and more people get introduced to the sport. There is nothing like
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playoff hockey and i think optically too you see the ratings for the nba they're down the nba has a problem my chief problem with the nba i'll wear it is that i don't like this miami heat team i don't they're not interesting to me i'm sick of it i don't want to watch them anymore
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Local Hour: Are The Florida Panthers The Biggest Thing In Town?
In Mike's defense, he has been telling me this for years. Like,
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That's a fine. He has a checklist.
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I mean, there is a cultural disconnect between, you know, Hispanic Miami Dade and hockey. It's just not, you know, they're more geared to baseball and football and even basketball down here. Hockey, they've never had a reason to care, and thankfully this franchise is giving them a reason to care. It's just, you know, they are most certainly Broward's team, and they lean into that footprint.
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Hopefully one day they can revitalize an area because their stadium's kind of out there near the Everglades a little bit, but it's not impossible. Look, Look, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have been a really successful franchise. They have two Super Bowls in the last 25 years. They're often in the playoffs. If you go to Tampa, the flags hanging outside people's homes are blue and white.
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That is a hockey town.
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Well, one of the things that I think will be huge for their growth, because I'm sure they have all sorts of meetings and they bust open the books and they realize we have so much room for growth in Miami-Dade County. How do we get there? The reports are accurate. There is a winter classic coming to South Florida, coming to Lone Depot Park. next season. That potentially might pit.
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Local Hour: Are The Florida Panthers The Biggest Thing In Town?
A lot of the fans out there might suggest it's going to be Florida against one of its main rivals. It'd be great if it were the Tampa Bay Lightning because you get to draw from that market too. That is a huge moment in time if this Panther organization can keep that momentum going and it crescendos with this huge event down the street over there at Marlins Park.
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Local Hour: Are The Florida Panthers The Biggest Thing In Town?
That'd be really cool because that's the first time hockey has come to Miami-Dade County since they left.
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Local Hour: Are The Florida Panthers The Biggest Thing In Town?
But people still watch the sport. They're not checking out on the Dolphins. You listen to local sports talk radio. People are irate because they care. Why? Because the product is really good. So I do think that there is a small faction of hockey fans out here that will support the team through thick and thin, like I have, like Chris has, like Roy has. Like I have. Like you have.
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But people need to be clued into the fact that this sport is just terrific to watch. They need to be brought into the tent. They need to go into a bar where the sound is on and people are locked in and you're living and dying as a puck crosses a blue line every half second it feels like and your season is hanging on the edge of a blade. It's incredible. There's nothing like it. It's infectious.
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But I do love the location. It would be a location that I'd probably be at tonight regardless because there's a huge Panther game on, and this is my favorite bar to watch hockey. The Wilds? Kaprizov. Kirill the Thrill Kaprizov. Take the over. One and a half points every game. This guy should be the Hart Trophy winner.
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That's how you build fandom, though.
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Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. Or bottle whatever your preference.
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Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. You'll take a sip, look around, see your family, and know you immediately made the best decision possible.
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Because Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. Simple ingredients. like malted barley for rich, balanced toffee note flavors in the iconic golden color. The original light beer since 1975, and still the best one. Making memories at year-end gatherings? Tastes like Miller time!
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Go to MillerLight.com to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Miller Light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories and carbs than premium regular beer.
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An unbelievable player that we're not going to get to see in the Four Nations Cup because he's Russian.
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You had your run with Primetime Media Group. We had plenty of Broward days.
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That's not true. We like it responsibly.
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Please stop. Responsibly. Thank you, Mike.
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It's heartbreaking. Everyone wants a cute little one, and they have the 13-year-old.
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Hour 1: Slappin Da Bass with Jordan Schultz
That's what I thought you were doing.
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Hour 1: Slappin Da Bass with Jordan Schultz
Terrible battle, custody. She got the house. Oh, no, I hate her. Like, it could have been a lot worse. Could have gotten a lot worse. She got half. He did a great job. A success. I got the rowboat. You're right.
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This is the Dan Labatar Show with the Stugats.
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Well, I've heard a lot of complaints as to, hey, I want to listen to all the episodes because we put them on our main podcast feed available wherever it is that you get your podcasts. But sometimes some of the older episodes purge.
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Hour 1: Slappin Da Bass with Jordan Schultz
So what we've done at LevitardAF.com is put together a playlist of the entire oral history in chronological order so you can listen back to every episode and not have to worry about scrolling down and not seeing an older episode. Made it easy for me. Made it very easy.
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I keep my shoes on in my house. Let me see those feet.
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No, let's not see them.
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Hey, howdy, listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
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Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and great tasting light beer.
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tastes like miller time you know as the football games get bigger everybody's talking about hosting parties it's always difficult everyone's got an opinion why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of miller lights and make everybody happy you could be on opposite sides of the big game but you still know that you are brought together by miller time Miller Lite is a great unifier.
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Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other Lite beers. The original Lite beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan. Find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly.
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Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Local Hour: Pat Riley Made Dan Lose Sleep
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week, and I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and
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Local Hour: Pat Riley Made Dan Lose Sleep
and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers and when you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
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Local Hour: Pat Riley Made Dan Lose Sleep
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Local Hour: Pat Riley Made Dan Lose Sleep
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week, and I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great-tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends and family.
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Local Hour: Pat Riley Made Dan Lose Sleep
family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. When you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
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Local Hour: Pat Riley Made Dan Lose Sleep
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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The Big Suey: Tall, Dark, and Handsome (feat. Domonique Foxworth)
Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan and I need to talk to you about something that I use religiously. Anytime I'm hosting a big dinner party, I want to impress people and I get food from some of the most iconic, famous places in the country. You know what helps me do that? Goldbelly. This amazing site where I order from all the time.
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The Big Suey: Tall, Dark, and Handsome (feat. Domonique Foxworth)
where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country. They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
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The Big Suey: Tall, Dark, and Handsome (feat. Domonique Foxworth)
You can get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly. And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York-style pizza from John's on Bleecker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit-style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though...
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The Big Suey: Tall, Dark, and Handsome (feat. Domonique Foxworth)
They will ship you Guy Fieri's famous trash can nachos, which I kid you not, are the ultimate game day centerpiece. So if you're looking to host an epic Super Bowl party, or any party for that matter, go to goldbelly.com and get free shipping and 20% off your first order with promo code DAN. That's goldbelly.com, code DAN, for free shipping and 20% off your first order.
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The Big Suey: Tall, Dark, and Handsome (feat. Domonique Foxworth)
Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and friends.
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The Big Suey: Tall, Dark, and Handsome (feat. Domonique Foxworth)
and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers and when you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
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The Big Suey: Tall, Dark, and Handsome (feat. Domonique Foxworth)
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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The Big Suey: Tall, Dark, and Handsome (feat. Domonique Foxworth)
Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan and I need to talk to you about something that I use religiously. Anytime I'm hosting a big dinner party, I want to impress people and I get food from some of the most iconic, famous places in the country. You know what helps me do that? Goldbelly. This amazing site where I order from all the time.
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The Big Suey: Tall, Dark, and Handsome (feat. Domonique Foxworth)
where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country. They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
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The Big Suey: Tall, Dark, and Handsome (feat. Domonique Foxworth)
You can get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly. And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York style pizza from John's on Bleecker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though.
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The Big Suey: Tall, Dark, and Handsome (feat. Domonique Foxworth)
They will ship you Guy Fieri's famous trash can nachos, which I kid you not, are the ultimate game day centerpiece. So if you're looking to host an epic Super Bowl party, or any party for that matter, go to goldbelly.com and get free shipping and 20% off your first order with promo code DAN. That's goldbelly.com, code DAN, for free shipping and 20% off your first order.
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Local Hour: David and Pablo's Awkward Moment
Hey, folks. It's Mike Ryan, and I need to talk to you about something that I use religiously. Anytime I'm hosting a big dinner party, I want to impress people, and I get food from some of the most iconic, famous places in the country. You know what helps me do that? GoldBelly, this amazing site where I order from all the time.
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Local Hour: David and Pablo's Awkward Moment
Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan and I need to talk to you about something that I use religiously. Anytime I'm hosting a big dinner party, I want to impress people and I get food from some of the most iconic, famous places in the country. You know what helps me do that? GoldBelly. This amazing site where I order from all the time.
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Local Hour: David and Pablo's Awkward Moment
where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country. They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: David and Pablo's Awkward Moment
You can get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly. And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York style pizza from John's on Bleecker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though.
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Local Hour: David and Pablo's Awkward Moment
They will ship you Guy Fieri's famous trash can nachos, which I kid you not, are the ultimate game day centerpiece. So if you're looking to host an epic Super Bowl party, or any party for that matter, go to goldbelly.com and get free shipping and 20% off your first order with promo code DAN. That's goldbelly.com, code DAN, for free shipping and 20% off your first order.
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Local Hour: David and Pablo's Awkward Moment
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends.
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Local Hour: David and Pablo's Awkward Moment
family and great tasting light beer tastes like miller time miller light is brewed for taste it hits different than other light beers when you're hosting your ultimate game day party why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because miller light is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one
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Local Hour: David and Pablo's Awkward Moment
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Local Hour: David and Pablo's Awkward Moment
where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country. They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
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Local Hour: David and Pablo's Awkward Moment
You can get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly. And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York-style pizza from John's on Bleecker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit-style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though...
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They don't. Well, this is like the... In public, he has to be happy for him. Of course. And then the second the camera's off, cursing everything there is about him. Stanford Steve, how does he know? How does he know? I'm excited. I really hope he doesn't shoot down my rushing prop bet thing. I've been riding it most of the season with Mahomes.
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I mean, I have a lot of bad football bets. Like, I always see, like, these parlays that have, like, multiple touchdowns from both teams. And it's like, wait, so you expect, like, seven touchdowns to be scored in this game? Like, a lot of people do that. Right. And it's like, oh, well, I have this kicker for over one and a half. And then these three guys on the same team scores a touchdown.
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And it's like, how many points do you think they're going to get? And you're like, you know. And then you have to get this many guys in order, like, you know. Yeah.
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Chris, speaking of the running game, the last few Super Bowls, I've really cashed in on quarterback rushing overs. And right now, the one I see is Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes, 29 and a half. He had 40 something yards against the bill. So if we were in a DraftKings state and we were doing this, I was wondering what how you would feel about 29 and a half for Patrick Mahomes.
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I got those bets in before.
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You didn't sound bitter at all, Bear. Why do you think he remembers it? Does he remember it if he doesn't have that number?
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It just takes that one time. That one time ruins it forever.
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He's sick before he gets to Super Bowl site. Oh, that does not bode well at all. I know.
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I can see it all over him.
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Go ahead. Bear, now that you mentioned casinos, I'm a big casino guy, especially roulette. And when I was in Vegas last year, I had an idea that I'm going to set up pool all my per diem money from metal arc here. And I'm just going to put it on a color on the roulette table. I didn't get a chance to do it last year. Because I figure if I lose the money, I just pay for my own meals all week.
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I love it. Or I can double my cash, right? So if you were hypothetically going to be a casino and you're betting a color, red or black, what does the bear put the money on?
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I don't want to think about it. I want to put it all on one thing for the week. I either double my money or I pay for my meals. That's it.
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And you know what? There's not like four places to go that are packed all the time. Yes. There's tons of little dives, bigger restaurants. Right. You can always find a place to go get a beer or go get some food.
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No, you're giving me PTSD because for my birthday, I went down to the casino and I had to split eights three times. So I kept splitting and then I had three 18s and the dealer had, I think she was showing a seven and then she ends up, I'm like, you know, you get a 10, it's over. She has a two and then a 10. That was at 19. I lost all three hands. Right.
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We're not talking about it yet. It's not a fully fleshed out idea, man. I'll cut it out.
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Redfish po' boy. Yes. And jambalaya.
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And followed that up, washed that down with three beignets. Yes. Oh, wow. Yeah. Really? Yeah. How do you feel? That was yesterday. I feel pretty good. Today, I'll hurt myself a little bit later. I'm going to go get a workout in, though, I think. At least I'm going to try. But, yeah, I'm one of those, I will eat the local food.
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Yeah, you hate it unless – Dumbass play. Unless you're a Jalen Hurts anytime touchdown better, then you love it, right? Yeah.
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It was home of the blackened redfish po' boy. Really? And I ordered it.
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And he believed them. And I did. I text Mike, and I said, Mike, I fell into the trap. Right. I'm in the home of the XXXX. Right. One of the many homes.
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Yeah, I ordered it. She walked back and said, another sucker out here. Yeah, we got it. It's skunk with scales put on the top. Give him the perch. Right. Oh, yeah, we poured this out of the gulf this morning. Get a load of this nerd.
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And that's what I did. I was just wandering. I was just looking at names of places, and I'll be damned if it didn't say home of, and it lured me in.
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Too far apart. Too far apart. Here's my thing. If you have to get in a car, I'm done.
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Vegas, I could walk everywhere. Right. Especially to the stadium. Yes. And here I can walk everywhere. Right. To me, again, it's what is best for me. Right.
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Why would you want this? People say they don't want it, yet the viewership will be just as high. Well, I know that. Listen, I actually like Philly in the game because of Saquon. I think they'll just hammer him. Keeps Patrick off the field. As long as Philly's not down two scores with five minutes to go, they better run the hell out of Saquon behind that whole line.
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You got to set the narrative for the week.
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He did. I know. Listen, I picked Buffalo over Kansas City, too. It's not like I wasn't wrong before.
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Congratulations. As soon as both games were over, I picked Philly. It's hard not to pick Philadelphia.
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And yet there's Kansas City.
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Thanks a lot. Thank you so much, man.
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If I'm not playing for Philly anymore, I'm rooting for my brother.
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I think having worked the last couple, I've kind of taken that off. I was able to be on the sideline and work them. I did enjoy that. Right. So, yeah, I think I'm, listen, I've been out of the league since 94. I know. I better be over it.
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That will be the take. It's a good strategy. Thank you. It worked for everybody against Tom Brady that ever tried to beat Tom Brady. And then get pressure with four.
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I'm not saying it's going to work.
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Yeah. No. The Giants? Oh, you're ancient history.
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That's ancient history. Right. Yeah. Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't know. Was Spaggs a coordinator for the Chiefs when they lost to the Bucs? I don't know. I don't think he was. Was he?
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What year was that? Don't dive too in.
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Yeah, that's the best rebuttal.
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Got it. Wait, how does that make any sense?
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Well, you would think that The game plan for the Chiefs also would be like make Jalen Hurts throw because that's the worst part of the offense, right? Yes. Of course it is. The part that's not as good.
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Spags. Find disgruntled A.J. Brown and throw it to him a million times and hopefully that works out.
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I don't care what he says.
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His mom will give him like a side eye. Who wants things to get better when you leave?
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Not really a representative sample. You're basically counting on Cooper Cup. Mike Allstott dropping it at the goal line. And quarterback sneaks.
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I mean, Jalen Hurts. Most of the white guys are scoring from like an inch out. They don't have the time to drop it before the goal line because they don't have 80 yards.
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It's Cup. Oh, McCaffrey. Well, they haven't done it. It's the two-guy sample. Ricky Proll. That's all I had. God, you didn't have anything.
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And it checks out. He's definitely white. That's a long time ago.
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I'm still scared, yeah.
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Yeah, it's a bummer for a 10 that way. But I watched part of the show yesterday trying to make light of Miami's season. It was a good season. It was a real good season.
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I understand that. But like I said, don't get me started on it.
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You're really trying to get me started, and I said don't.
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I'd rather lose it.
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OK, you got me started on it. My whole thing about the Pop-Tart Bowl is Jess is right when she says it is supposed to be a prestigious bowl and that it's supposed to be the top ACC team that's not going to a CFP game. And if this was a seven win season, this was an eight win season. Look, last year I was all about the bad boy mowers pinstripe bowl. All about it. You can lean into it's a mean bowl.
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It's a bowl that exists for memes and the teams that are playing in it are used as punchlines for the toasters and the Pop-Tarts. And it's just when you come that close to the CFP, you see the bowl game that is most active making a joke of itself on the Internet. It's just kind of like a bummer.
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I feel like I make fun of the team. It's too fun.
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Just give me an old white guy in a royal blue blazer handing me a normal-looking trophy and saying congratulations on your season. That's how you actually stick out these days. You've got to dump mayo. You've got to dump potatoes. You've got to dump coffee. I get it. It's all fun and games for everybody.
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But if this is supposed to be one of the more prestigious ones, how about we stop making fun of the teams that are in it? Mm-hmm.
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I'm good with the gimmicky ones for, like, bad teams. Right. For, like, teams that are just eligible.
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No, I understand that. And that's a sick bar, dude.
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I'm jealous. I'm jealous. Other teams get to go to a normal, like, holiday bowl. Give me that. Their whole thing is like, are they still Culligan? Give me that. What about the Wasabi Fenway Bowl? That one seems fine. Two college basketball programs playing in a baseball stadium. That's what I like.
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Oh, no.
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It's often with Schusen, who you've said is your dear friend. I love Bob.
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Kind of feel like the map would be all over the place then, no? It'd be. It'd be like A1. It could go anywhere.
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Y9.
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What do you think that cat thought he was doing?
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Get that cat out of the way if Sugata has a blizzard. I'll tell you that right now. D4. Remnants?
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It feels like you're trying to steal this segment away from Tony by making it Royce's top five.
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He's proven worthy of that contract. He's a good player. Is he ever going to be confused with the best in the sport? No. But can you win with him? Absolutely. I hope they do because it'd be a really great story for him. This guy was playing defensive end on scout team for the Carolina Panthers. Crazy.
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No doubt. No doubt. This guy's big sin was to play through an injury and maybe could have been a little bit more professional about his time over there, but they shoved him out the door and replaced him with Deshaun Watson.
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Sorry, we wrote them all. There are no more Royce Top Tens. Is Dwork going to be there?
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And for a team that was struggling for 20 plus years to find a quarterback, for them to have one, for them to have one who was runner up in the AP Offensive Rookie of the Year, said all sorts of passing records as a rookie, won a wildcard game at Pittsburgh, made Ben Roethlisberger all sad. That's the stuff that you were dying for. as a Browns fan, and you couldn't wait to push him out the door.
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Hours after he flew into town.
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That lands so harshly to Carolina Panthers fans as both of them excel.
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I've asked people on the know, independent of the injury, which is, I think, a huge part of this, which made him play worse, which if he's not playing worse, then you don't open the door to him leaving. But by all accounts, it seemed as though Baker's time at Cleveland was at an end. There were divisions in the locker room. He had worn out his welcome. He was at a different point in his career.
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But you could make a quick evaluation on Baker Mayfield. In retrospect, he was really good as a rookie. He wasn't as good when he had Freddie Kitchens, one of the worst head coaches of all time, as his head coach in that second year. Really good his third year, wins a playoff game.
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And in his fourth year, he battles through multiple bad injuries and tries to tough it out, which affects his performance. You could look at the first four years of his career and say, I can explain why he's bad. And I'm pretty confident this guy is good. That's what I kept saying as it was happening. I did not want Deshaun Watson. I wanted to keep Baker. I was team Baker all the way.
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I didn't want to replace him. While other people were saying this team is just a quarterback away, no, they're just a healthy Baker Mayfield away.
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You're the one that keeps pushing this Rose thing, and you keep saying Lucy. I think you're the biggest Rose guy here.
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Does Tony want to say it now too?
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What's in Vegas?
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What's in Vegas?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what's going on? Is there a show in Vegas? Is there a show in Vegas that she goes to?
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It's a toy drive. Back up Chris's judgment here. Do you want to go to it again? Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time.
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It's not even west of the Turnpike.
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Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. Or bottle whatever your preference. Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer.
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I mean, there's a Topgolf west of it. Now, after that Topgolf, it's the Everglades.
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Football season ended in Syracuse for me.
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It's like more of a car PEZ dispenser. Really? Huh.
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I'm always curious. The logistics of a Carvana.
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The 17th time you asked her to pronounce Luigi's name, you didn't do that?
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Let's not vamp on this one.
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Less inflatables somehow.
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Yeah. There's a silencer technique. And also, you're not in control of how much water is in the bowl. If there is a bowl that has less water in it, you're probably going to want to go closer to D2 range.
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You go corners.
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You want it to cascade off the side and it limits the sound. You can also sit.
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I mean, you guys are all like, all the ladies are like J5, right? Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, I guess my mistake. H5. F5. Huh?
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E5.
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What if it's a public restroom?
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I think it's OKC.
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Dan, we dug ourselves out of that awkwardness, and we're giving Tony a shine. Not to throw it back in his face and have him spiral.
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Tell Dan about the 40-burger, Dan.
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Tony, number two. And later we're going full circle.
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Well, that was a joke.
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Now it's his turn.
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I think I just ruined it. We'll play the game later, though. Jeez. Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time.
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Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. Or bottle whatever your preference. Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer.
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They have that look, Tony.
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They're selling Rose now. Sorry, we've moved on.
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And that's very convenient because you can just pull up to that location, and it's in a mall. So if you don't have a toy with you, walk in the mall, grab a toy, and bring it to Vivo.
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That Packers who's who performance actually paved the way for the Rams to host a playoff game and beat anybody.
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Baby, I can tell you that I'm pissed they hit Rose with the spray. Oh, she sounded like a goose who stepped on with heels. Yeah, even though Rose wasn't due, it's Harry and Lucy laughing.
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She's like, you're not going to believe this. We're going back to you. You're going back to another pageant.
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They ran it back? I did this once before. O-L-I, O-L-I, I have a top five.
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She got me. The rare. I haven't seen Miss Congeniality 2. I'm sorry.
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I took a guess that they decided to repeat the formula, the wildly successful Miss Congeniality 1. And I missed the mark. For that, I apologize.
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Okay, but I saw you two... You sure there isn't a beauty pageant? Because Sister Act 2, back in the habit, was kind of, like, different, but also similar. In that she was still a nun.
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And he faked it. I'm like a dog with a bone on this one. There's got to be some sort of beauty contest.
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There has to be a pageant somewhere.
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Yeah, there has to be a pageant. Maybe she's one of the judges at the pageant.
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No, not at all. No, I'm telling you, there's a pageant in this goddamn movie. It's Mike's favorite American comedy. There has to be a pageant. She's got the whole pageant sash.
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Do you know who you're speaking to? There is 100% a goddamn pageant in this movie.
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So everyone's in the car singing one song and she's just doing Florence at the top of her lungs.
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Yeah, he hit it off of Skinner. This is a complete play. Reinhardt's a great two-way player. Doesn't get the attention because he's on the team with Barkov, who was out... by the way. And this was such a huge win because the Oilers came in red hot, five in a row, scoring over five goals a game in that five. And they flatly don't lose when they score over five goals.
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Panthers haven't been shut out again. The usual part of the calendar where they dip, they go down two goals and you think it's over. And then they have this incredible performance. And that is how you fake something without having watched it.
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I definitely didn't give up on that game after they went down two goals. Definitely didn't.
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I'm totally good with the wizard should be a Jeff Goldblum type. So Jeff Goldblum playing himself. I didn't have an issue with it, but I get what you're saying. But I also was a wicked virgin going into it. I love The Wizard of Oz, but I'd never seen the musical. And I came away blown away by it. And that's exactly what movies should be.
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It felt like a throwback, not just because it was a musical, but you had these practical sets being built, and it took you to another world without this weird greenish hue of special effects clouding everything. It didn't feel like a Marvel movie. It felt like these were things that were rooted in real tangible things, and I loved it. Any other Wicked Virgins around here?
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That was a terrible Boston.
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Wicked virgin? You called it wicked. Yes, I did do that. What they do in Eastern Europe.
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Travis Homer's a bear? Oh, you can have a long career if you're good at special teams. Good news for Estrepo.
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Can you be worse?
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Yes. There you go. Now you get it. Be worse. Yes. Thank you.
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I think she nailed it.
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Good.
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Frank Catalanado. Yeah.
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Come visit her at the Flanagan's in Coconut Grove and drop off a toy. Don't just visit her. That'd be weird.
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When Sue can't even say it, it's tough.
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That's where we earn the points.
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Bring your cash. Bring everything you have, okay? I think Rose just unplugged the decorative thing behind Tony by mistake.
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Rose just unplugged something that does not belong to her at Flanagan's. Oh, Jesus.
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She's got it, man. She really does. We were trying to force it, and we probably fell on the wrong side of it, and then she's just organically making magic on her own.
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This is her segment now.
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Podcasters got to take our word for this one.
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Oh, my gosh.
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This is great. All right, Tony can come back. All right, Tony, come on back. She's legitimately pleading for help.
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All right, sorry about that, Tony. We have to look out for our guy.
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This is when you want to get hurt.
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It's about to circle the wagons.
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There's only two weeks left in the year, so... He has to have MCL surgery. He's out for like six months. Well, he can achieve all things through Christ.
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Pat McAfee says the Bucs can beat anybody. They can. They can beat anybody.
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And they've beaten the Lions at full strength. They've beaten the Lions. They've beaten the Eagles.
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The window to the walls. We all heard that, right? Till the sweat drops down my balls.
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All these females crawl, singing all skeet, skeet goddamn.
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Late this year. That's correct.
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Yeah, sure thing.
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Yeah, sure thing.
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He can't be nitpicking his range. Ridiculous. Ridiculous.
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The Big Suey: Jerry Jones, Bill Belichick, and Cyber Squatting (feat. Dianna Russini)
In that room with your family. Some of them may have aided you in coupon and rebate scandals that you got away with somehow because of money. And your daughter's there. And don't forget, she's the reason why you acquired Deshaun Watson. It's entirely on her, not you. And your family's there. And that one unhoused gentleman that told you to draft Johnny Manziel. Do you enjoy this impression?
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I don't even think that's how Jimmy Haslam. I don't do a Tennessee accent.
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What do you think when you see that unhoused gentleman over there that told me to draft Johnny Manziel, Jon Hamm?
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Mark Davis, sorry for the noise here in the P.F. Changs.
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Not as good as Ursae.
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Somewhere in America, there's a person that has perfected and crafted a Dean Spanos impression for 20 years waiting for this moment.
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You don't hold it down.
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Get his ass, Mina. Stugatz.
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Hoyer should be on the sidelines. Is there one or two Yates? Every time they've ever played a wild card game, this is fact, every time it's been that window. The first game, now known as like the streaming exclusive usually, it is always the Houston Texans for whatever reason. If they're in the wild card, they're the first thing that you see. It is astonishing to me.
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Does Houston not have any national cachet? This is a pretty big market. Or are they just always that kind of team? Like they have the exciting quarterback, the appointment television type of quarterback, at least he was last year. Yeah, I don't think they've broken through yet.
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They have a young, budding superstar at the position, a person that everybody crowned this most recent offseason. I understand why Yates' opening is curtain jerking. I understand why Hoyer is curtain jerking. It's just funny that the Houston Texans perpetually are always in this TV slot.
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I don't know. It's got to be a wrap on him. It's got to be.
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The injuries also. There was a brief dip in form. There were questions when he was hitting the mark.
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I never know who's going to be a future boss. Don't stop him. He's about to get to Laranega.
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He's going to love not playing for a year and getting paid in full.
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On all accounts, though, like, he went into that locker room and won them over. They were all backing him up. The thing about Baker Mayfield was they wanted an adult in the room. Baker wasn't fully baked as a leader there, no pun intended. And Deshaun Watson went... Out of his way, off-season trips. Everybody was backing him up to the bitter end. They were backing up the talent.
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You saw the reaction to the crowd booing him. Everybody in that locker room was pretty pissed off about it. He had won them over as a leader.
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The Big Suey: Jerry Jones, Bill Belichick, and Cyber Squatting (feat. Dianna Russini)
They've got a room full of family. Yeah, they're going to go quarterback. They have a top two pick, so do they go quarterback? Because I'm seeing all these mock drafts, and for whatever reason, they don't have them going quarterback.
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The Big Suey: Jerry Jones, Bill Belichick, and Cyber Squatting (feat. Dianna Russini)
You have to go quarterback just because of how your roster is constructed because no matter what happens with Deshaun Watson, unless there's some other liability, they have to pay that contract in full. So they need to go cheap at the position. The best way to go cheap at the position is hit on a draft pick. So they're either taking Shador Sanders or Cam Ward, right?
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Perhaps from some portions of the fan base, but perhaps Miami Hurricanes fans that are in that fan base that took moral stance and consider themselves principled.
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I think Jerry Jones changed my life with that performance.
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I thought ESPN would have been on that. Somehow it got overlooked. The guy held us hostage and we were just like, you can have it.
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Is that true? Is there an imminent domain for web addresses?
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Like if you were just sitting on COVIDrelief.com and then you saw the news stories on Wuhan and you're like, yes, yes, yes.
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The Big Suey: Jerry Jones, Bill Belichick, and Cyber Squatting (feat. Dianna Russini)
You're doing nothing. You haven't tweeted anything. It's a slow burn. Oh, wait. Have you reported Bill Belichick's going to UNC yet? Do that.
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The Big Suey: Jerry Jones, Bill Belichick, and Cyber Squatting (feat. Dianna Russini)
Damn, I thought we got it away from you. I think we're good. Covered. In a second.
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The Big Suey: Jerry Jones, Bill Belichick, and Cyber Squatting (feat. Dianna Russini)
You know, I'm excited to have Diana on because the Bill Belichick contract thing is interesting to me. There's like a weird June 1st. Actually, I should not be talking about this. I have someone that is well more informed. Happy New Year, buddy. Happy New Year to all. How's the Bill Belichick thing going?
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The Big Suey: Jerry Jones, Bill Belichick, and Cyber Squatting (feat. Dianna Russini)
I appreciate all your hard work, Taylor. Thank you. I must admit, I thought the cachet of Bill Belichick, and year one is always hard, even for recruiting-based coaches, it is very difficult to have that kind of class.
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The Big Suey: Jerry Jones, Bill Belichick, and Cyber Squatting (feat. Dianna Russini)
But I thought the cachet of Bill Belichick, the name in the portal, guys would just take visits out of curiosity, and it seems that it's going to take Bill a little bit to navigate these waters.
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The Big Suey: Jerry Jones, Bill Belichick, and Cyber Squatting (feat. Dianna Russini)
Diana, is there a possibility? Because I don't think a $10 million buyout, it going from $1 million to $10 million, is going to stop an NFL owner if they think Bill Belichick is the answer during this coaching cycle. It doesn't appear like he's in the mix for any of these jobs, but could it be?
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The Big Suey: Jerry Jones, Bill Belichick, and Cyber Squatting (feat. Dianna Russini)
Is there a scenario, if an NFL team shows legitimate interest and thinks Bill Belichick is the answer, say the Jacksonville Jaguars, who I know the cons like Bill Belichick, if they up and decide, you know what, UNC be damned, this is the right guy, we'll pay $10 million, that's nothing to us, do you think Bill Belichick would entertain that? Diana? Diana?
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The Big Suey: Jerry Jones, Bill Belichick, and Cyber Squatting (feat. Dianna Russini)
Did you hear what I said, though?
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If a team shows interest in Bill Belichick, would Bill Belichick actually entertain that? Because I don't see the $10 million buyout thing stopping an NFL owner.
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The Big Suey: Jerry Jones, Bill Belichick, and Cyber Squatting (feat. Dianna Russini)
Why do they like Trent Balke so much over there in Jacksonville? He seems to have a stranglehold on that position, and it's a little curious.
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Jay Crowder, as Jeremy pointed out.
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But was that the intention or was that a byproduct of...
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failing to get somebody better than Jimmy because that was always hanging over this franchise as soon as they acquired Jimmy is he can't be your number one and then he he almost proved us wrong numerous times like he can be your number one just not on a title team but I think ever since his acquisition we were all saying they got to pair him with somebody that's a little bit more talented you can question Pat Riley in the heat about a number of things and how they've handled Jimmy Butler and surrounding him with the right amount of talent but
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Are they very sophisticated? No, no, no. It's like password 123? Yeah, pretty much. 123.
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No doubt, the Kyle Lowry thing, I don't think we pay enough attention to that, even with time. That was just such a disastrous move for this franchise. I think it's fair if you want to armchair quarterback it and say they've actually been on the right side of not acquiring some of these talents. It actually ended up working out.
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The Damian Lillard contract's not that attractive, even though I still think that it would have been a better fit here. I think people tend to look over their multiple pursuits of Kevin Durant. A new owner waltzes into the league and just alphas them, and they've always been trying to get him, and that would have been huge. Chris Paul, that one is kind of debatable, but...
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Kyrie Irving, in retrospect, we understand why everybody was standoffish, but they should have pursued him.
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But I also think it's awfully convenient when people bring up Bradley Beal and they bring up, you know, Damian Lillard. They omit the other ones where like taking this chance might have worked out. They're putting all that other stuff to his side. And just for a guy who coined the phrase disease of me. He couldn't get this wrong with Jimmy.
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Because Jimmy, at the very least, he helps you compete this year, and it's a contract that comes off the books. We understand he took his approach in the summer. It was dicey. Jimmy Butler and him started doing some posturing publicly, and it looked like they handled that. Then... All these trade rumors start up where Shams is totally right. You don't go up against Shams in these situations.
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And Jimmy Butler's representation and the Miami Heat got cocky, had bravado. I'm not really sure what Jimmy Butler's agent was doing. That seems a little nefarious in retrospect. But the guy that coined the phrase disease in me did something that you don't really see executives do all that much. Put out like an old school press release saying he's not going to move. And in retrospect...
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he really minimized the possible return for Jimmy Butler by doing that. Because you back a guy who knows how to get out of these situations into a corner, and now every team that's checking in on Jimmy Butler understands you are out of moves and is low-balling you. And that is a byproduct of your initial approach, which was a bit prideful.
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I feel like something's been going around for at least five years.
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But there's a difference between... But then he gets suspended for seven games.
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But we chalk that one up to just the acquisition of Terry Rose here, which is also a stain on Pat Riley's legacy.
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Are you going at us for questioning whether Pat Riley has failed the town, failed the city, failed the franchise player? Is that what you're doing? Yes, I am. Is that what you are doing? Yes.
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He deserves it. And he also deserves to leave this franchise however he wants it. I don't think it's hard to explain that every time you want to criticize something in the moment. We understand what he means to this franchise. We understand why we're here.
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But in this specific moment, in a vacuum, he has really botched this Jimmy Butler situation in terms of maximizing a return to the point that Jeremy and I are workshopping, like, what's his move now? Just say, hey, we're going to shelve you for the rest of the year because just losing your contract off our books is more value than a quarter.
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If you're running with it, that's a green light.
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Just so you know, now it's deproved.
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And it's just not a sudden development. The writing was on the wall last offseason when we saw everybody in the East get better. And we were just hanging our hat on the development of this franchise. And maybe they have a puncher's chance. And then they manage Jimmy Butler's workload the entire season against their will because it runs counterculture to them. And he gets hurt against Philadelphia.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
And you realize, wow. wasted year wasted year for Pat Riley who's getting up there wasted year for Jimmy Butler and this entire thing is flawed you cannot go through another offseason the same way they did part of the reason that this has gone on so long is because of what Dan mentioned which is that Pat Riley in this franchise refused to ever be bad and
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
But even the play-in with the outliers, and I'm sorry, Dan, but even the outlier, like that incredible, majestic run, I thought the season was over against Chicago in the play-in. Like, it was that flimsy. Like, the entire thing is built on let's get in the play-in and hopefully we advance through that.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
It's too late. We kind of need to get off the pot at this point, so it's going to be this.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
What Dan said there, though, is kind of the problem. And it's the parts of the Heat media that I don't like and the Heat fandom that I don't like.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
What recent history do you have of the disgruntled superstar putting Miami in his destination list, which is routine, Miami not winning that pursuit, either not having the type of trade capital that the other teams have, or in the event that a superstar says, I only want to go to Miami, they still found a way to fail. So why do you think it's going to be different with Anthony Edwards?
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
And the only way it could possibly be different with Anthony Edwards in this pie-in-the-sky scenario is you still need capital. And Pat Riley just went out of his way to ruin that possible scenario in not maximizing the return by putting out that statement that put Jimmy in a corner.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
I've approved the asterisk. The asterisk is officially approved. Hard subject to tailor.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
I don't think you can anymore. There's like this weird message from this lady.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. When you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
And then Taylor did the gym face to the hard cam. I've never, this is like throwing me because it never has the term like, do I look fat in this ever in my mind applied to a hat. It's always like pants or a shirt, but it is totally made you look like 20 pounds heavier, a single hat.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
He saw a white mustache and he's like, oh, this will make Dan feel great.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
It's unfortunate because there is thought that goes into it, but it feels somehow more thoughtless than not receiving a Happy Holiday card whatsoever.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
It's funny how that cliche doesn't work anymore. I think mailing it in now is harder.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
then texting it in is much harder yes yes open my eyes a new phrase it should be scanning it in it is uh more expensive do any of you know what a stamp costs these days because uh sometimes by the book so i got individually i think it comes down to a couple like 60 something cents uh i don't know buying bulk whenever i need a stamp i go to my parents mom and dad need a stamp he's got your dad always
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
Never bought a stamp in my life. No idea. I can't imagine how toxic the chemicals are on those stamps. Stamps cost money? Prior to any kind of regulation, those stamps.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
Here's a forever chemical in your stamp. Here's this lead stamp.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
Yes, you're right. I mean, you are living a wealthy life if you can splurge on this. I Google it. I'm like, what is the wait? Sometimes I get the lesson taught to me. It gets sent back. And that's why mailing it in no longer applies because you've got to work to mail something in now.
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
Wait, has this cliche evolved with the times, and then we just forgot, this generation forgot to evolve it? Because mailing it in, and there's also phoning it in, and I assume phoning it in came after mailing it in. Why haven't we come to the table with texting it in?
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Local Hour: The Jimmy Butler Saga Continues
Have you ever sent a fax, Jeremy? Never in my life. Never? Never. I mean, I remember fax machines. Do you remember, like, the wax paper that came in the roll? What is that? You used to fax them on these, like, waxy rolls of paper. And it was impossible to draw on with crayons.
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Hour 1: Poop City (feat. Stugotz and Dianna Russini from Radio Row)
Hey, folks. It's Mike Ryan, and I need to talk to you about something that I use religiously. Anytime I'm hosting a big dinner party, I want to impress people, and I get food from some of the most iconic, famous places in the country. You know what helps me do that? GoldBelly, this amazing site where I order from all the time.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Poop City (feat. Stugotz and Dianna Russini from Radio Row)
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends and family.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Poop City (feat. Stugotz and Dianna Russini from Radio Row)
family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. When you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Poop City (feat. Stugotz and Dianna Russini from Radio Row)
where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country. They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Poop City (feat. Stugotz and Dianna Russini from Radio Row)
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Poop City (feat. Stugotz and Dianna Russini from Radio Row)
You can get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly. And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York-style pizza from John's on Bleecker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit-style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though...
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Poop City (feat. Stugotz and Dianna Russini from Radio Row)
They will ship you Guy Fieri's famous trash can nachos, which I kid you not, are the ultimate game day centerpiece. So if you're looking to host an epic Super Bowl party, or any party for that matter, go to goldbelly.com and get free shipping and 20% off your first order with promo code DAN. That's goldbelly.com, code DAN, for free shipping and 20% off your first order.
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Hour 1: Poop City (feat. Stugotz and Dianna Russini from Radio Row)
She's an assassin.
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The Big Suey: Listen Here, Iowa
Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan and I need to talk to you about something that I use religiously. Anytime I'm hosting a big dinner party, I want to impress people and I get food from some of the most iconic, famous places in the country. You know what helps me do that? Goldbelly. This amazing site where I order from all the time.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Listen Here, Iowa
where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country. They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Listen Here, Iowa
You can get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly. And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York style pizza from John's on Bleecker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Listen Here, Iowa
They will ship you Guy Fieri's famous trash can nachos, which I kid you not, are the ultimate game day centerpiece. So if you're looking to host an epic Super Bowl party, or any party for that matter, go to goldbelly.com and get free shipping and 20% off your first order with promo code DAN. That's goldbelly.com, code DAN, for free shipping and 20% off your first order.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Listen Here, Iowa
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Listen Here, Iowa
family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. When you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Listen Here, Iowa
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Listen Here, Iowa
Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan and I need to talk to you about something that I use religiously. Anytime I'm hosting a big dinner party, I want to impress people and I get food from some of the most iconic, famous places in the country. You know what helps me do that? Goldbelly. This amazing site where I order from all the time.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Listen Here, Iowa
where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country. They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Listen Here, Iowa
You can get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly. And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York style pizza from John's on Bleecker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Listen Here, Iowa
They will ship you Guy Fieri's famous trash can nachos, which I kid you not, are the ultimate game day centerpiece. So if you're looking to host an epic Super Bowl party, or any party for that matter, go to goldbelly.com and get free shipping and 20% off your first order with promo code DAN. That's goldbelly.com, code DAN, for free shipping and 20% off your first order.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Gabe's 30 Seconds On Luka Doncic
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends and family.
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Local Hour: Gabe's 30 Seconds On Luka Doncic
family and great tasting light beer tastes like miller time miller light is brewed for taste it hits different than other light beers when you're hosting your ultimate game day party why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because miller light is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Gabe's 30 Seconds On Luka Doncic
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Gabe's 30 Seconds On Luka Doncic
Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan and I need to talk to you about something that I use religiously. Anytime I'm hosting a big dinner party, I want to impress people and I get food from some of the most iconic, famous places in the country. You know what helps me do that? Goldbelly. This amazing site where I order from all the time.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Gabe's 30 Seconds On Luka Doncic
where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country. They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Gabe's 30 Seconds On Luka Doncic
You can get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly. And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York style pizza from John's on Bleecker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Gabe's 30 Seconds On Luka Doncic
They will ship you Guy Fieri's famous trash can nachos, which I kid you not, are the ultimate game day centerpiece. So if you're looking to host an epic Super Bowl party, or any party for that matter, go to goldbelly.com and get free shipping and 20% off your first order with promo code DAN. That's goldbelly.com, code DAN, for free shipping and 20% off your first order. Shadow Show. Shadow Show.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
You're listening to DraftKings Network.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
Imagine being in the Super Bowl so many times you're just like, oh, yeah, we're playing in the Super Bowl later. Do you think Patrick Mahomes even is like, cool, this is a great moment. This is so important. I think he just shows up and he's like, oh, dang, cool.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
He gave us one last corner blitz. One last corner blitz on the way out. I'm going to miss him so much.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
Wacky inflatable arm man. Tooth man.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
Look at that. Look at us. That's a statue? It looks like the actual guy.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
I'll give you a number. Al Golden, he's like 6'6". I mean, he's really tall. Just understated, but so tall. Interesting.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
He had a tight end, wasn't he?
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
I think that happens sometimes.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
He's ginormous, and I miss him so much.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
Can we settle on 6'4 1⁄2", maybe? I would take that. Okay, I'll take that.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
The AFC is sexier, Dan. The AFC is just sexier.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
I mean, that's that report, yeah.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
Wait, take your shirt off, Dan. That's how you normally do this, right?
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
You need to get to the bottom of this. Put the mic closer to the mic. This is my UFO.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
He'll answer. He loves you.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
I think I'll roll in 6'3". I gave you six, four and a half. That's as low as I'm going to go.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
But he might be standing farther away from the camera.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
I'm telling you. It's not available on Google.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
If you're talking about what America wants, I've been thinking this week, this may be a very difficult weekend for all of the haters because you have two very long-suffering sports franchises. If you're not a fan of one of those, you feel petty and spiteful. You don't want one of them to win before you do, right?
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
Like, oh my God, I can't believe the Commanders are about to win a Super Bowl and my team... is blah, blah, blah, the Steelers. But then you have the Chiefs, who obviously, they win all the time. That's not interesting either. And then you have the Eagles, who I think are one of the more universally hated teams. Not my opinion, just what your typical hater would think.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
Are the Bills America's team? Who's the lovable team in this? I guess most people would root for the Commanders or the Bills being first time in decades that they're in this position. That's interesting. But I think there are also a lot of petty sports fans that are like, screw you. You have Josh Allen. I'm sick of you. That's not fair. I wanted Jaden Daniels.
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Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
Instead, I'm stuck with Caleb Williams and the Bears stink. And now we're all having to convince ourselves Ben Johnson's going to be different this time.
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The Big Suey: The Nutmobile
Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
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The Big Suey: The Nutmobile
That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
I just don't think he has that option. Because when Portland did this, refused to send Damian Lillard where he wanted to go, Lillard was a bit more desirable by a pretty wide margin than Jimmy Butler is presently. I don't know the teams that are interested outside of the one that's been reported in Phoenix, but this is not the same kind of situation.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
This is a very well-known malcontent that if you invite into your franchise, Miami's an outlier. It usually goes to hell way before that.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Because he wasn't following in line with the Patriot way. He wanted more rights.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
I mean, we've seen that take. That's like a Paul Pierce take. It's an anti-Miami thing. I think given the players here, you can't hold Miami's history. I was just going to focus on Jimmy's history, but yeah, it's fair. It went sideways with Dwayne Wade. We had the happy ending, but he did leave and nobody felt good about the way that that ended. I think that would be fair.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
quantifiable loafing uh we have to i have to issue a formal apology it appears that fbi is in the dick wolf universe oh yeah and also this is a blind spot prolific dick wolf universe the dick verse if you will also just a gaping hole in my knowledge when it comes to all cbs shows it appears just was informing me fbi is pretty huge
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
If you have to ask, Dan, it's not for you.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Now, there's an FBI Sydney. How is that? I thought the FBI was just like distinctly American.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
jurisdictional situation they just wanted to film near the opera house phrase mate well can you seem to be really good at searching this the united states like we don't yeah we don't do stuff in other countries we we stick to our own country that's what we're known for well when we interfere with other countries we typically don't send the fbi do we sorry i was being sarcastic and i think that maybe someone to my left thought that i was not america first oh
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Hey, howdy, listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great-tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and great-tasting light beer. tastes like Miller time. You know, as the football games get bigger, everybody's talking about hosting parties. It's always difficult. Everyone's got an opinion.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of Miller lights and make everybody happy? You could be on opposite sides of the big game, but you still know that you are brought together by Miller time. Miller Lite is a great unifier. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other Lite beers. The original Lite beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite. Great taste.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Don Libetard. I'm not going to apologize.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
I like it. I have to issue another correction and an apology. It's not FBI Sydney. It's international. No, it's NCIS.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
And this is allowed because we have a naval station there.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Yes, you are. What you're not in Jeopardy! of is when you're on that game show, when the worst thing that could happen is...
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
You sound so much like Joe Biden. I dig what you're saying, man.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
It really is a bad impression. That's not good.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
That's right. Low case I. I found a comma. Dr. Quinn, medicine woman. Oh, wow. That's not as good as Murder, She Wrote. No. It's subjective. That show was a banger.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Wild. A listening Venmo fine bucket. That's for you, Chris. And we're going to start doing this. We're going to start paying this. We can't be asking for big sponsors to join us and then do the same stuff we've always done. I'm waiting on a code. I'm walking you out there. But Billy does this thing, too. You guys let him get away with it.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
I'm promising you. Please don't reveal the name.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Just put an emoji in there. It's all right.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
You have to put an emoji. It makes you, you can't just like have an empty one. And make it private because you don't want people like, I hate it when people like just like. Let the world know that they just had ice cream. So $12 it is. Oh, shit.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
This is a very real thing that can happen.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Hey, howdy, listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great-tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and great-tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. You know, as the football games get bigger, everybody's talking about hosting parties. It's always difficult. Everyone's got an opinion.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of Miller lights and make everybody happy? You could be on opposite sides of the big game, but you still know that you are brought together.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
by Miller Time Miller Lite is a great unifier Miller Lite is brewed for taste it hits different than other light beers the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one Miller Lite great taste 96 calories go to MillerLite.com slash Dan find delivery options near you or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer tastes like Miller Time celebrate responsibly Miller Brewing Company Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
and i just got a text that kind of grinded my gears a little bit too i asked can we make sure that this is a simulcast because we are you know doing our show i want to if we're going to do this let's both use it and the response was yeah absolutely let's just make sure it's just one-on-one though just the two dance wow which is basically no sugats no great cody certainly no shipping container please keep them out of this and yeah i'm a
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Is it your bit to pretend like you're not the shitster? because you're gaslighting me right now. Because your whole thing is like, let's put people on the air and fight. I said that in confidence. I'm a little annoyed with this DP thing because I've been trying to get him on. I didn't name you. The first words out of your mouth is like, we got a fight on our hands. I didn't name you.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Yeah, I told you that in confidence.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
It took me 20 years, but Dan loves having people fight on the air. He's like David Caruso in CSI. He just wants an explosion behind him, but he doesn't look cool.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
I think you're greatly overselling what kind of leverage that actually is. I think Dan Patrick would be totally fine with this.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Are you surprised FBI got Todd Billing? Or is that just grandfathered in because FBI is already a successful show?
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
You've got the Venmo fine bucket now. Don't worry, I've got a QR code for you to scan during the break. All right. Thank you.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Amazing. What's the name of that task force? Is it FBI? CIA? Yes. I feel like that's... I want to say it's wordy, but it's just letters.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
You have to be in Jeopardy. No, but all the answers are in the form of a question played to the theme of the game show rather than Jeopardy.
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Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
To answer Shigatsu's question, who is Bruce Springsteen?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
Not before one last episode airs. A tribute to Tony. And then we just do what we're doing right now. On loop.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
Who gets the ball first? That is the answer. Because if he gets the ball first, He's got a chance because Meech hasn't played in how long? A long time. Right, out of shape and everything. Out of his mobile. And Tony's a good shooter, so also he gets to step back and take Meech out of his comfort zone a little bit. True. But if Meech gets the ball first.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
But that's assuming that Meech gets the ball first. If he doesn't miss. I'll tell you, Dan, I'll tell you a story. My buddy Andrew Schultz, years and years ago, challenged Jay Williams.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
I do like the whistling sound of the cartoon bomb dropping. Coyote? Yeah.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
and I will still beat you. And sure enough, Schultz got the ball first, he missed, and then what I told Schultz was gonna happen is exactly what happened. Jay Williams, you think of him, oh, he was a point guard, he's not doing any of that. He's taking your ass to the block and boom, boom, boom, layup, every single time. So he scores six straight points like that.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
On the seventh one, because he wanted to be disrespectful, he said, I'm a setback, And as he's dribbling, he throws the ball off of Andrew's head. Off the easy. Hard. And the funny thing was, Andrew, after maybe his first or second bucket or whatever, Totally spent. This is a guy who plays pick up all the time. After two buckets of Jay Williams just ground and pound, he was done.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
He was like a boxer. He had jelly legs and everything. But throwing the ball off his head woke him up somehow because Jay catches it, perfect rhythm, puts up the shot, and it rims out. and Andrew grabs the ball, and now he's energized. His pride is in there. And he hits him with his signature Hezzy dribble, puts up a bullshit shot that bounces and bounces and bounces and drops.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
He ended up winning, but it was not because He could guard or he could beat Jay Williams. It was because Dave Williams had hubris and he wanted to disrespect him on top of John Do you have hubris?
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
So also, funny, funny, funny story. I once played pickup ball with John Amici. You don't remember this. This was years and years ago at Arizona State. You were in town.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
And so we played. We were on the same team. And it was great because, oh, I've got this NBA player. Man, he's passing the ball a lot. That's great. Like, I thought you were going to shoot every time, but you didn't. You also shot almost exclusively jump shots. Yep. Right? But then we were on different teams. And so I said, this is what we're going to do.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
We're gonna put, you're gonna put me on the worst offensive player. And then I was just hard double every single time. And for me, it was like, this is the pinnacle of defensive execution. And for me too, it was like, I just wanna get a workout in. Just run up and down the floor.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
Dan, this is the old line from Airplane. You try dragging Walton up and down the floor for 48 minutes and then get back to me. Like, this guy's running around with Shaq and these guys. You think a 10.0 on the treadmill is real hard? No, but a 10.0 for an hour at this size.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this was my defense all along. There is no shortage of people that I've played basketball with in my life that you know. Some of them NBA players, some of them NBA coaches, some of them are NBA media. Oh, come on. If I ever shot like that, hit him with name drop. I didn't name drop anybody. There are no names. No names. No names.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
Does it not make you feel slightly queasy when you watch it, though? No, because I took it and I made it into something even greater. I did. I made a video that went crazy viral.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
I don't know. That's the whole point. The whole point was, before that shot, Meech, I'd shot three or four from that same spot. Oh, you can't do that. No, no, listen to me. Let me tell the story, right? All right, all right. This is like the fourth or fifth shot from that spot. I'd made all the other ones. The guy who recorded it was like, oh, that's cool. Amin is draining these shots.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
Let me get a video. The first one I shot after he stopped recording is that one. And he said, oh, this is even better. Performance anxiety. I didn't know. I didn't know until after the game. This is before the game. I found out after the game, he said, you haven't checked Twitter, have you? I'm like, no, why, what happened?
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
And I thought it was because there was a turnover late in the game that I made. I was like, yeah, it was a dumb turnover. He's like, oh, it's not about the turnover. I'm like, oh, then what is it about? And then I saw that, and that's when I realized. It's about that mad shot right there. How's that behind me?
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
there. As I watch it, I always think to myself, I think I was trying to get it back. Like, no, no, no, come back! You know?
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
No, you know what? I'm going to stick up for the audio audience and say that's unnecessary. Let's play Tony again.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
So this is the part that I'm curious about. Kanye West was pretty much always that person. Now, he's gotten way more off the beaten path as time has gone on, but many people who knew him 20 years ago, 25 years ago, like, yep, that's who he's always been. And we just didn't know the mass public, right? Or we didn't get the full grasp of it.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
Was Aaron Rodgers always like this and we just didn't know?
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
So that's my question, though. Some people change. Legitimately change and unravel or whatever. Did he unravel or was he always like this and he just had a great facade?
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
of a crackpot. John, I'm curious because, again, you work with a lot of people in this regard. What is the long-term impact of the pandemic? I feel like people change. That thing changed people in a way that I didn't feel impacted. It sucked and it was a boring time and a scary time. But I don't think about it much now. And I feel like me in 2019 is pretty much the same as me right now.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
But I feel as I go around, I see these videos of people freaking out on airplanes and just acting a fool in public. I feel like the pandemic changed something in people, like on an emotional stability level. Do you experience that or is that just kind of anecdotal?
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
Dan, you said Ricky texted you that. Is that Ricky Martinez who gave the gift yesterday?
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
Well, I just felt, because it was yesterday, that it wasn't that inside. Now, if it was a month later, then no one remembers that. But it's still fresh in the minds of the listeners. All right. Thank you for your contribution to me playing Hurt.
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Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling
I was just saying that, well, there it is. That, ladies and gentlemen, is an Ethan. That's the size of one Ethan. So we described the skydiving instructor.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Yeah, you did. But were you drinking? High-sticking.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
To not get hit by a car.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
I can beat him.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
That's the Don Miguel.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
How long were you out of commission? Like, that looked like it hurt. Oh, it hurts now. Yeah, so on the heels of yesterday's discussion, just know that that happens routinely in a hockey game, and they come right back, and they often score goals.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
It was great. But if Joel Embiid had suffered your injury, he'd be out for three months.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
How many of these minus do you get? Even A's tone was very good there. Excellent tone. Also Joel Embiid. But I was laughing a lot because, no, Joel Embiid's super soft. It's a fact. But every time I watch Stephen A. Smith, I just marvel at how good he is at this. He's incredible. He's incredible. He's got papers in front of him, but he's reading it better than anybody in the biz.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
That was as insightful a take on Joel Embiid that I've heard. And I'm not speaking for Sixers fans. I'm just speaking for myself here. I truly don't resent Joel Embiid for being hurt. He's dealt with a lot of legitimate injuries. I think where the resentment comes from the casual sports fan, the casual NBA follower is, I resent you for sitting out to avoid getting hurt. Because he does that a lot.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
There's a huge chunk of this percentage where Joel Embiid is not on the court because it's a part of a maintenance plan. And I think Stephen A. kind of spoke to that in that, OK, but you sit out to avoid getting hurt, but you're just going to get hurt anyway. So just go out there.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
I also watch him play, and I know his proclivity to get injured, and I wonder aloud, then why are you flopping around throwing your huge frame on the floor? Why is this a part of your game? Because it is. It's an annoying part of Joel Embiid's game.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
If you're so susceptible to injury, why haven't you eliminated that part from your game, where you embellish to get calls because you're a gigantic guy falling on the hardwood?
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Everyone knows the deal. You are a grandfather. You co-founded the company.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
that's i mean good lord yeah i don't have to be able to move i could yeah anyway you got to be able to move is it fair to say that steven a who often represents the voice of sports fans it's why he's popular there's just such a joel and bead fatigue this it's the story with him and that's cool like he i i do consider him a brandon roy sometimes the body just begins up but this is this is a tireless exercise and also just i don't like how he plays i don't like his attitude
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
I don't like the Sixers.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
But it's been that way since we've ever started having company parties. That's just always been the policy. Like, I walked into it, and I just assumed that there were no plus ones. And then I saw Izzy broke that rule, and I was like, oh, damn, this is going to be a fight. So it wasn't.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Oh, I thought that was like a shoe. I thought it was like twerking.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
And in closing, I think another thing that Joel Embiid falls victim to is, okay, you have this frame that's susceptible to injuries. A lot of the Philly frustration is, then why don't you take care of your body more? Because his conditioning is constantly under scrutiny because You're always unhealthy. Why don't we change up the conditioning plan? Why don't we do something different?
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
And he seemingly hasn't, to at least the casual sports observer. They have no evidence that he's doing anything about it.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
It feels like a straw man. That's not one of those finesse teams. Everybody knows. Straw man. That's been Tennessee's identity for a long time. They may not be good, but they're going to be tough to play because they're a tough team.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Dan, if I may, isn't the implied gambit that we understand they're tough. They're playing football, a game of real estate acquisition. But by comparison to other teams, they are soft. And if that is indeed the gambit, then it's a fair accusation.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
I guess I've watched football long enough that I think I can tell which teams are tough and their identity is we are more physical. It's something that you know when you see.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
You're asking a European big from the turn of the century in the NBA if he was considered soft?
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're going to have some family over. How do you entertain the family? How do you keep everybody happy? Well, I know one easy way. Make your holiday time Miller time. Bring out a nice silver platter of that beautiful white can. Or bottle whatever your preference.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Heck, do it on draft. As long as it's got that beautiful amber color and was Triple Hops brewed, you know it's going to be a hit. Why? Because Miller Lite has tastes you know you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. You'll take a sip, look around, see your family, and know you immediately made the best decision possible.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Go to MillerLight.com to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Miller Light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories and carbs than premium regular beer.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Roy had more shots than the Minnesota Wild had in the third period.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Dan, we were all talking before the show, and we all agreed. Last night was a quintessential Matthew Kachuk performance.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Just two goals, you know, mixing it up, getting shoved and cross-checked immediately after scoring. What a special team this is. Because, as you mentioned, Minnesota, quite good. And that's not usually a spot where the Florida Panthers have a lot of success, Roy.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Holden Kirill the thrill to under one and a half points, an achievement in itself.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Yeah, yeah. That one hurt.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
We can talk CFP. He's a little worried about the sayings.
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I'm also very dry because she's extremely dehydrated.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Novel concept.
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Yeah, I don't know. Like I said, grandfathered in. I walked in with the expectation that there were no plus ones because ever since we've been a company, there have been no plus ones. So it wasn't even a topic of conversation.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
But it's Izzy's first holiday party, so he had no idea that this was the rule.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
That just doesn't sound right. You co-founded this company. How is it your first holiday party? That is weird, by the way.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Did you just think nobody could make it? Man, they all couldn't make it. Wow, what a coincidence. Nobody's partner could make it.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Except Dan. Totally fine with that.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
Yeah, no. He's a co-founder of the company. He gets to bring his wife. We're good. Thank you for the bar.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
What do you mean by here? I saw an IG from him where there was a turkey vulture on his balcony here at the Elser, and I don't think he made it. I think it was huge.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
You know a great moment from last night? Because, yeah, some of you guys were doing the shotskis with tequila, which is insane. The pickleback is the greatest shot known to man because you take your shot of whiskey and then you immediately hydrate yourself with pickle juice. Now, Greg Cody, I happen to know, loves pickles and pickle juice. He had never had a pickleback in his entire life.
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Local Hour: Are The Titans Soft? Feat. John Amaechi
In his 215 years on this planet, he had never indulged in a pickleback. And I ordered him one. And as soon as he knocked back the pickle juice instantaneously, wow, where has this been my entire life? It was just an incredible moment.
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Hour 2: Sam Morril Misses Mitchell Robinson
Sam, you often will do local morning TV.
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Hour 2: Sam Morril Misses Mitchell Robinson
It's the greatest joke being told right now on morning television. What's your favorite one that you did that you could not believe you got this one off?
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Hour 2: Sam Morril Misses Mitchell Robinson
Did I say that? Mike is in a very sensitive time in his life right now. I don't think we're giving him enough grace that – You know, sometimes the flicker of the chance is so much worse than having no hope at all, right? Like, you would have been a lot happier had this never been a possibility. Cam Ward to the Browns? Yes.
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Hour 2: Sam Morril Misses Mitchell Robinson
It's that, but also fizzle out is one thing. Blaine Gabbert, Jamarcus Russell, Don Skelton. Be worst in the sport. Like, that's drastic.
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They can find it on New York Times.
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Hour 2: Sam Morril Misses Mitchell Robinson
Mike, it was a good one. But I'm tickled by the idea that you said RG3 stood before the greatest staff I've ever assembled. Sean McVay and Shanahan and the other Shanahan. And somewhere Jay Gruden's like, Jay Gruden, Jay Gruden, Jay Gruden. Say it, say it, God damn it, say it.
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Hour 2: Sam Morril Misses Mitchell Robinson
Look at all these brackets. And they're like, no, that bracket belongs to another guy.
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Hour 2: Sam Morril Misses Mitchell Robinson
You guys the other day on the show talked about, hey, playoff teams in the NFL should be able to bring back somebody for the big game, right? Who would you bring back for Notre Dame?
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Rudy. Rudy. You need a big, beefy lineman. Rudy. Rudy. Rudy!
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Hour 2: Sam Morril Misses Mitchell Robinson
Sam, why did you guys ever think, I got a buddy of mine, he's a Grammy winning producer who's a huge Nick fan like you. And he was literally researching all the different ways that the Knicks can, quote, unquote, make it up to Hartenstein. And I'm like, you don't understand. He's going to make a gajillion dollars. It's a no-brainer. He's obviously going to take the money. No, it's different.
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Hour 2: Sam Morril Misses Mitchell Robinson
It's different. Like the power of friendship and all that stuff. And the first opportunity he had to take the money, he got the money. Why do you guys delude yourselves into thinking things like that? Like people are going to go against their natural instincts.
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Hour 2: Sam Morril Misses Mitchell Robinson
We need you. What did you think of Josh Hart multiple times last week? Talk about agendas, secret agendas, personal agendas.
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Hour 2: Sam Morril Misses Mitchell Robinson
Well, I'm curious because yesterday, Dan, I don't know if you know, the Knicks played a game and they had to go to overtime to beat a Sixers team that was missing a lot of good players. And I wonder, Sam, take us inside you watching a game like that. Are you an eternal fountain of positivity? Like, come on, guys, we got this. Hey, the Sixers are tougher than you think.
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Hour 2: Sam Morril Misses Mitchell Robinson
Or are you sitting there MFing your TV?
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Dude, when Sam did the South Beach Sessions here last year, I confronted him about it. I was like, how can you root for a team with an owner like that? And he gave me the most political answer ever. Oh, yes. He's bought and paid for. I was like, oh, man, they got to you, too.
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And he's like, huh? I haven't left the building. And I believe him. I feel like he hasn't left that building since he signed there.
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I also hate Ohio State, like a lot, because of, you know, the Fiesta Bowl. So, yeah, I've seen Ohio State win national championships. I haven't seen Notre Dame win a championship in my lifetime. The last time they won a national championship, the radios were tinning. I was all like, choppy shackle going down the sideline.
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I don't remember them actually. Come on. Not the co-championships. No one recognizes that.
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I'm sorry, is it a booger?
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Dana, I saw one of these things be bandied about on the internet. The expanded playoff makes the regular season meaningless and it makes upsets like Northern Illinois super meaningless. I'm like, what are you talking about? Can you imagine if Notre Dame actually wins the championship? That Northern Illinois upset lives forever.
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You know what he did, right? After he beat Marcus Freeman, he's like, hey. I'd love to give you some tips on how we beat you. And he gave him the whole playbook, and then Notre Dame's been damn near unstoppable since then. It's a little unfair.
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No convoluted, you know, well, we started spying. None of that. No. No, we just executed.
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slash dan hey howdy listener why don't you sit down here next to me let's have a fireside conversation in the winter this is all theater of the mind anyways weather outside is a little chilly let's warm up let's cozy up not just to each other but also to that beautiful white can of miller light that's right make these moments even better with miller light the great tasting light beer for people who love beer a new year is a perfect time for friends family and great tasting light beer
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tastes like miller time you know as the football games get bigger everybody's talking about hosting parties it's always difficult everyone's got an opinion why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of miller lights and make everybody happy you could be on opposite sides of the big game but you still know that you are brought together by miller time Miller Lite is a great unifier.
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Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. The original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan. Find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly.
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Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Great coach. Oh, dude, I watched that press conference again last week when he was asked, like, so why did you take this job? And he goes... You kidding me? Oh, man, I love that guy so much. And I think, look, he's been very good behind the scenes, almost too good and a little disingenuous about like not knowing the full scope of the sanctions. It's completely untrue.
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He knew, but he's very good at putting that out there that he didn't know so much so that he's convinced everybody of this, even though it's completely untrue. And he knew everything that was going to happen. But he was young enough, and we've seen coaches fail their first time. The greatest head coach of all time had a head coaching job in Cleveland. Didn't go great.
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Became the greatest head coach of all time. He's done so much, and you can learn from your failures. And Al Golden has certainly done that. And, dude, this guy was, like, coaching tight ends for the Bengals. Like, he was an afterthought. It never felt like that guy would amount to anything.
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Well, no, no, no. He went from tight ends and then he went to linebacker.
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Yeah, I think at that point he might have switched. And now that's how he got the defensive chops.
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Dude, his final act was Dabo sunning him at midfield. One of the more embarrassing results in program history. 58-0 that game? Yeah.
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I'm saying Al behind the scenes is very good at convincing people that he didn't know the full scope of the sanctions when it's not totally true. Al Golden is in his 50s? He's like, these things suck up on me. It's not exactly accurate, but it's okay, man.
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Yeah, I don't know. It's wild. Al Golden? Now, yeah, it's wild to see. He looks old.
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No, he doesn't. How dare you? How dare you? No, he doesn't. That's just a clean shave.
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You have to get the glasses and him looking over his glasses on the field like, huh, what?
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I'm trying to protect you, Dan. Get one of him looking really old.
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All right, see, he looks really old there. He looks like Christopher Walken in Blast from the Past.
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That's early onset Paterno. We'd all agree.
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Yeah. Okay, thank you. Because of all the grief weight that you lost.
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Great. I mean, it helped. What are you guys doing? What? Why are you doing this? I mean, there's the occasional, like, happy byproduct.
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Or your best. That is your worst. You look better now than you did in that. That is by far one of the worst photos I've ever seen. Dan, I'm sticking up for you here, but come on, man. You look better now. You're not giving me ammo here. We were talking to you in the back. You have a literal silver lining on your mouth.
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You have like South Park teeth. I can't describe it any better.
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All right. I have a question. I have a question. How are you just learning this? Every year I get an email or a Slack message asking, what are we doing for Martin Luther King Day? And the answer is always the same thing we've done for 15 years is respect Martin Luther King Day. And plus, I want to watch the inauguration.
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Dan, rest easy. This show will have that news before anyone else. We will be first. I can promise you that. We will be first, and I know this embargo that's kind of in place, we're going to bypass that approximately 10 seconds before the embargo is lifted. Wow. You hear that, Barry Jackson?
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You know what? 20 seconds. You want to make sure they don't- 20 seconds? 20 seconds early. Oh, man. 20 seconds early because we were kind of in the day.
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Rush Hour. I think it's Rush Hour in terms of commercial success.
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Is there any Oliver Platt in there? There is.
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Yeah, you represent so little to so many. So much to so many with so much.
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What do you think is the best photo you've ever taken? Oh, I think. And not just for laughs, but how you look. The Speedo one, you don't look bad in. That one. That one, yeah, the most eligible Bachelor one. How old are you in this photo? What's going on with the face? Are you taking a shit on a pool table?
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Why would they want that? No, they didn't.
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That's like one of the most 90s. Can we put that shirt back up there? Is it a long sleeve? Is it a short sleeve? Is it a turtle? Is it a mock turtle?
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He dyes his hair now. Let Dan finish the story. Thank you. We're listening.
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Get your feet off the pool table. That's incredible. He had no idea this was happening? No! That's stunning to walk in on.
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Big game preview? What is happening? What? What is happening? We're always off that day. And the discussion is, well, there's playoff games to discuss. I'm like, yeah, they'll be there to discuss on Tuesday. It's more Luther King Day.
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Hey, howdy listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
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Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. You know, as the football games get bigger, everybody's talking about hosting parties. It's always difficult. Everyone's got an opinion.
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Why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of Miller lights and make everybody happy? You could be on opposite sides of the big game, but you still know that you are brought together. By Miller Time. Miller Lite is a great unifier. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other Lite beers. The original Lite beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite. Great taste.
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96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan. Find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller Time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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She'll be there Tuesday. That's the day you want her. We get to drink tears or celebrate with her. She gets to espouse the virtues of toughness. This is incredible. Tuesday.
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Rocco Spindler? I'm a very Italian team. Hardly know her.
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Let me just get out in front of this one. President's Day. Holiday. We're not doing a show that day. Okay? Why? Because we've established for 15 years we haven't been doing that on that day.
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Yeah, this one's my bad. Monday night. Yes, my bad. And forgive me. But it's never been this late in the calendar. That's true. Which is new because this season's been longer.
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Ooh, is the weather going to be bad?
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Yeah, because it guarantees the quarterbacks are going to be running more, and we like it when those two quarterbacks run more.
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She's not ruining this for me.
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Tell my wife, you know what? Go watch Netflix in the bedroom. I need to be alone for this.
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and my life has renewed meaning.
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It's not all puppy dogs and ice cream.
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Yeah. And also, you lean in. Ohio against the world.
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Hate us because they ain't us.
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Notre Dame's basically ACC.
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If anything, they're partially ACC.
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Honestly, Jess knows this. I've kind of been on Notre Dame for a couple months now. I love their style of play. I love how they rebounded against Northern Illinois. And there's a lot of reasons to hate Notre Dame. Historical rivalry with Miami, Al Golden's stupid face. But I got it. I'll be damned. I like this Notre Dame team. I like the way that they play. It's old school. They are gutsy.
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They are tough. I know that that was a big discussion last week, but I was marveling at their ability to climb back into that game. They had every reason to quit in that game, and everybody would brush their hands off and say, that's a great season. You overachieved.
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He's got like early onset paterno. He looks like a different person. Like the way that Greg Williams came back to the NFL. Al Golden looks borderline unrecognizable. It's not just a necktie. Like he looks like an older man now. And have you seen him be distinguished? Have you seen him be interviewed? Like they've asked him, hey, you're a leading candidate for the Cincinnati Bengals, D.C.
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It's honestly something that college game day should monitor. Because what people love so much about college football is this tribalism, this fun that's associated with it. And it's veering off into Surlytown where we're not having as much fun and we're just complaining about fans the entire time.
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And we're saying that the games are bad, even though we're the ones that air the games and hype the games up and have hour-long specials telling you, hey, these might be the games in a couple of months. So it's something that everybody should monitor.
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Yeah. I mean, I get you. And social media is, look, it's toxic. And it seems as though the algo is just going to make it more and more toxic. But I'm not really... I'm at the level of disinterested where I didn't really start filing my complaints on social media about baseball.
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If I'm asked about it on this show, I'll tell you my stale take on that, even though I credit them for making the changes that I was asking for. Basketball, I'll catch up. If my team's good, that has a lot to do with it. I'll follow back up with basketball if the Heat ever become good again or they fix the things because I have no interest in watching these top-level games.
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That feels like you're lying. Did his son send out his own congratulations for committing?
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There's got to be more going on there. Yeah, Dio.
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Get his ass, Mina. Stoogatz.
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happening maybe we should start there before we're like oh it's cool what's happening i'm happy that you mentioned that because while we make the content we are we should issue that our thoughts and prayers are with everybody affected which seems to be everyone in my life right now that i know that lives out there has had their life impacted by this so mina we're very concerned and we hope that you're okay
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I haven't thought about that name since like the first 15 minutes of reaction in the morning when we found out about the story and we all moved on. I think the silence on that front either indicates a lack of interest from people wanting to find out or probably an admission where, you know, I don't need to get my set. Let me just hope this goes away.
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Wait, wait, I have a question about the Lamar Jackson thing, okay? Oh, okay. Lamar's got plenty of MVPs. He may now have more MVPs in playoff wins. But that Ravens team offensively is loaded. Loaded with first-round talent. In the offseason, they add Derrick Henry, who's a unicorn of a talent. All Buffalo did their entire offseason was strip talent away from Josh Allen.
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And in the big moments, they won because of the plays that he made. As a treat, they gave him an Amari Cooper at the trade deadline. For me, it's Josh Allen. Maybe it might be Jordan rules, Jordan MVP fatigue, but you got to give it to Josh.
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No. Like, do I have to sit through a commercial? I don't want to do that. I'm not that interested. Like, this guy's made a lot of money in his career. Even though he played well, like, it's pretty clear what happened there. Was playing a lot. Was upset that another guy was playing over him. Seems to be at the end of his career. And that's just how he goes out.
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Antonio Brown, fascinating, because for a lot of different things, different person, well-known, the way that he did it, but also the notion that he still had plenty of good football left in front of him. People learned his name through this story, so I don't think people care.
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Hey, howdy listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
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Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. You know, as the football games get bigger, everybody's talking about hosting parties. It's always difficult. Everyone's got an opinion.
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Why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of Miller lights and make everybody happy? You could be on opposite sides of the big game, but you still know that you are brought together.
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by Miller Time Miller Lite is a great unifier Miller Lite is brewed for taste it hits different than other light beers the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one Miller Lite great taste 96 calories go to MillerLite.com slash Dan find delivery options near you or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer tastes like Miller Time celebrate responsibly Miller Brewing Company Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces
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The Wall Street Journal published a story in December saying that the number of Americans wanting to switch jobs has hit a 10 year high.
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The worst name one can pull. By the way, that was $7 for not listening earlier to the Venmo fine.
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What's your fine for snitching?
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It's pretty chill back here. Can't lie.
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Thank you for updating me on the situation.
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GBF- CFP Semis Preview with Lucy
Right. Wouldn't Texas also have been out because Georgia won the SEC?
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I'm sure I wouldn't know either, but you know what? I'd love to find out. I'd love to find out if it changes anything.
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I'm excited for five days, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, watching football. It's probably going to be one of the best weekends of the year.
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College football. Going from South Dakota to Iowa, is he going to be able to handle the budding metropolis? Is he going to be able to handle all that nightlife and stuff? Yeah.
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GBF- CFP Semis Preview with Lucy
It can absolutely let us down. Any of these games can let us down by being blowouts, just being terrible games. But, you know, we thought Texas-Arizona State was going to be a blowout, and we thought that was going to be a bad game. And I was glued to the TV the whole time. So, hey, maybe we get it. Maybe we don't.
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Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
Hey, folks. It's Mike Ryan, and I need to talk to you about something that I use religiously. Anytime I'm hosting a big dinner party, I want to impress people, and I get food from some of the most iconic, famous places in the country. You know what helps me do that? GoldBelly, this amazing site where I order from all the time.
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where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country. They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
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You can get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly. And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York-style pizza from John's on Bleecker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit-style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though...
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They will ship you Guy Fieri's famous trash can nachos, which I kid you not, are the ultimate game day centerpiece. So if you're looking to host an epic Super Bowl party, or any party for that matter, go to goldbelly.com and get free shipping and 20% off your first order with promo code DAN. That's goldbelly.com, code DAN, for free shipping and 20% off your first order.
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Goodbye, everyone.
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Okay, bye. Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends and family.
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family and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers and when you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
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Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan and I need to talk to you about something that I use religiously. Anytime I'm hosting a big dinner party, I want to impress people and I get food from some of the most iconic, famous places in the country. You know what helps me do that? Goldbelly. This amazing site where I order from all the time.
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Hour 2: David Samson's Rules For Using The Bathroom
where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country. They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
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Hour 2: David Samson's Rules For Using The Bathroom
You can get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly. And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York style pizza from John's on Bleecker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though.
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Hour 2: David Samson's Rules For Using The Bathroom
They will ship you Guy Fieri's famous trash can nachos, which I kid you not, are the ultimate game day centerpiece. So if you're looking to host an epic Super Bowl party or any party for that matter, go to goldbelly.com and get free shipping and 20% off your first order with promo code DAN. That's goldbelly.com, code DAN, for free shipping and 20% off your first order.
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Hour 1: Limited Fake Stephen A. Smith Runs For President
Hey, folks. It's Mike Ryan, and I need to talk to you about something that I use religiously. Anytime I'm hosting a big dinner party, I want to impress people, and I get food from some of the most iconic, famous places in the country. You know what helps me do that? GoldBelly, this amazing site where I order from all the time.
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Hour 1: Limited Fake Stephen A. Smith Runs For President
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends.
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family and great tasting light beer tastes like miller time miller light is brewed for taste it hits different than other light beers when you're hosting your ultimate game day party why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because miller light is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one
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Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country. They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original Buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
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Hour 1: Limited Fake Stephen A. Smith Runs For President
You can get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly. And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York-style pizza from John's on Bleecker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit-style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though...
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Hour 1: Limited Fake Stephen A. Smith Runs For President
They will ship you Guy Fieri's famous trash can nachos, which I kid you not, are the ultimate game day centerpiece. So if you're looking to host an epic Super Bowl party, or any party for that matter, go to goldbelly.com and get free shipping and 20% off your first order with promo code DAN. That's goldbelly.com, code DAN, for free shipping and 20% off your first order.
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The Big Suey: Polishing David's World Series Trophy (feat. Ryan Cortes)
Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan and I need to talk to you about something that I use religiously. Anytime I'm hosting a big dinner party, I want to impress people and I get food from some of the most iconic, famous places in the country. You know what helps me do that? Goldbelly. This amazing site where I order from all the time.
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The Big Suey: Polishing David's World Series Trophy (feat. Ryan Cortes)
where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country. They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
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The Big Suey: Polishing David's World Series Trophy (feat. Ryan Cortes)
You could get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly. And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York style pizza from John's on Bleecker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though.
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The Big Suey: Polishing David's World Series Trophy (feat. Ryan Cortes)
They will ship you Guy Fieri's famous trash can nachos, which I kid you not, are the ultimate game day centerpiece. So if you're looking to host an epic Super Bowl party, or any party for that matter, go to goldbelly.com and get free shipping and 20% off your first order with promo code DAN. That's goldbelly.com, code DAN, for free shipping and 20% off your first order. Don Levitard.
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The Big Suey: Polishing David's World Series Trophy (feat. Ryan Cortes)
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends.
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The Big Suey: Polishing David's World Series Trophy (feat. Ryan Cortes)
family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. When you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
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The Big Suey: Polishing David's World Series Trophy (feat. Ryan Cortes)
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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The Big Suey: Polishing David's World Series Trophy (feat. Ryan Cortes)
Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan and I need to talk to you about something that I use religiously. Anytime I'm hosting a big dinner party, I want to impress people and I get food from some of the most iconic, famous places in the country. You know what helps me do that? Goldbelly. This amazing site where I order from all the time.
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The Big Suey: Polishing David's World Series Trophy (feat. Ryan Cortes)
where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country. They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
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The Big Suey: Polishing David's World Series Trophy (feat. Ryan Cortes)
You can get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly. And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York style pizza from John's on Bleecker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though.
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The Big Suey: Polishing David's World Series Trophy (feat. Ryan Cortes)
They will ship you Guy Fieri's famous trash can nachos, which I kid you not, are the ultimate game day centerpiece. So if you're looking to host an epic Super Bowl party, or any party for that matter, go to goldbelly.com and get free shipping and 20% off your first order with promo code DAN. That's goldbelly.com, code DAN, for free shipping and 20% off your first order.
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Local Hour: Joe Chestnut and Connor McOverrated
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and friends.
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Local Hour: Joe Chestnut and Connor McOverrated
and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers and when you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
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Local Hour: Joe Chestnut and Connor McOverrated
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours.
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Local Hour: Joe Chestnut and Connor McOverrated
Needs help. Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends and family.
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Local Hour: Joe Chestnut and Connor McOverrated
family and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers and when you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
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Local Hour: Joe Chestnut and Connor McOverrated
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
They're all bad teams. The good teams don't get away with this.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Here's the list of teams, Dan. The list of teams that did not score more than 30 points in a game. The New York Giants, the Las Vegas Raiders, the New England Patriots, the New York Jets, and the Kansas City Chiefs. One of these things is not like the other.
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I just hope that they're thinking about it as much as we are. Yeah. If the bold chase, and I don't think it's not exactly not bold of them to decide, let's keep this unit together. I actually think that's kind of brave because four years in that sport is a very long time. Four years being told you're not good enough by the same team, losing pretty much the same way in the postseason.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
I mean, that would wear on you. And I just hope that it's not just assumed, yeah, let's just run it back. Let's bring everybody back. We'll finally get these guys because you're already in uncharted territory in terms of not being able to get those guys.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Wow, that's a great idea. That is a phenomenal idea. That is such a good idea by you.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
The point is profound because he has a cock.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Get that out of here. Let's push that clip out, too.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Yeah, you can say things like fastest growing show where you can play with the math a little bit. But to call yourself America's new favorite show, you need to back that claim up.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
CBS always does. CBS does that, and it's always quantifiable because the ratings bear it out.
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What's that about?
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WWE as well.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Imagine that. There were Cachanels left and right doing the same thing over and over again, and they weren't getting the results, and they had to do something different.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
And the other one is a hot take.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
It's just two separate conversations. You don't need to put them together.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Let me rummage under my desk. Hang on.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
We have a question for you.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
I'm not bringing it up. You're the first guy to the plausible take. Like, should they look at the head coach thing? And you're muddying the waters with this Belichick thing. Like, you have to. You have the good take.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
I'm never really impressed with him. His decision-making in some of these games has been hot and cold. I don't know, dude. Like I said, I hope they're having the conversation. And I hope it's not just like, yeah, we're going to run it back, right?
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Running it back, right, looking to a room full of people that have experienced the first type of successive failure in NFL history, that seems insane to me.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
I think I know the answer to this, but when there is an important play that needs to be called for the Buffalo Bills. Most times, it's Josh do something, and the ball stays in Josh's hands. We know with Patrick Mahomes, even at this age, his go-to guy is Travis Kelsey. Now, I think possibly the go-to guy for Josh Allen right now is Khalil Shakir, but Patrick Mahomes' guy is an all-timer.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
I feel like, yeah, no bad ideas. Tyreek Hill, T. Higgins, who's available? Who's unavailable? Let's get crazy. Let's throw everything for Justin Jefferson. Something crazy, something good, something game-changing.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
I understand mentioning Tyreek Hill as a possible solution is inflammatory, and you've done well to seize on that. But I'm saying we're close. We're right there. It's something that that franchise has famously dealt with its entire history and what it's known for. And I would say they need to have a conversation, ownership on down, buck stops here.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
What can we do to make sure we're not even getting a shittier version of what we got in the early 90s?
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
They have to pay Rousseau, who might be in the conversation for highest paid guy on the defensive line in the league now.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
the limit is endless it's no it's easy to say we're right there because buffalo's not alone in saying we're right there hell a team that missed the playoffs in cincinnati can argue and they've actually had success in the postseason against kansas city and baltimore we're right there baltimore we're right there you got to keep those guys away because the gulf between those teams is shrinking and you have to chase down the greatest of all time potentially
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
No, that wouldn't even be the target. I'm just throwing names out there.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
What can I give you from Mike Evans?
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Maybe the quarterback's a problem. Let's trade Josh Allen.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
There are no bad ideas here. What I'm saying is what cannot happen is everyone just hopping on the bus, having a team meeting, all right, we'll get them next year. That cannot happen.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
I 100% believe that.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Hey, howdy, listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. You know, as the football games get bigger, everybody's talking about hosting parties. It's always difficult. Everyone's got an opinion.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of Miller lights and make everybody happy? You could be on opposite sides of the big game, but you still know that you are brought together. By Miller Time. Miller Lite is a great unifier. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other Lite beers. The original Lite beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite. Great taste.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan. Find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller Time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Yeah, that's why I'm a little confused by it because you always speak to the gladiator spectacle of football and the gridiron. You're, you know, a cyclone of menace and horror. You're so good with words and there is nothing more true. about that than a short yardage situation where it's will against will, mano a mano.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
On Championship Sunday, every single short yardage situation was captivating. Because these... believed that the team could actually stop it. In the regular season, bodies don't find the willpower on the opposite side to put up a fight.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Now, Washington was doing very creative things, trying to time the snap down, and it was very clearly getting to Philadelphia, so much so that they switched up the cadence, which led to hilarity, basically a 15-minute down.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
We'll fix that part.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Yeah, I do think so.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
I'm sick for him because, like I said, he'd be Mahomes. It's not a championship. It's not a Super Bowl appearance. And it's kind of like Dan Marino in that everyone realizes this guy's the frigging man. He's awesome. He's not the problem. It's everything else. And everything else is largely somebody else. One individual that is just a little bit better at it. Just a little bit more clutch.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Even though he's been pretty damn clutch and he's made the throws, his surrounding cast hasn't been as clutch.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
I was really following the take, and I really liked it before we went off into crazy land with Belichick. Really?
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
the mcdermott thing like like it is something that you have to consider no we've seen sports teams realize pretty emphatically like we're just not good enough what are we gonna do to drastically change this situation all buffalo did in its off season to drastically change its situation was get rid of offensive talent like there are recent examples grady little being you know
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
not brought back Paul Maurice being in a Matthew Kachuk trade for the Florida Panthers because they realize in a small window like we're never going to get past those guys unless we do something drastic Buffalo is at that point where they have to do something drastic are they Because they keep doing the same thing. What is the very definition of insanity?
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Yes, but I would say that... Losing four times in a row to one quarterback is drastic. We've never seen it.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
I just don't understand where the Bills go when they have their postseason meeting and they all get together and their board of directors try to figure out, all right, what went wrong? The same thing went wrong again. Run it back? Like, extend our record of being the only team to lose to this team this many times consecutively and just hope that the math will work out for us in the postseason?
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
At a certain point, you have to try to take control of your own destiny and do something about it. So at least you can lay your head down at night and say, well, I tried something new this time.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Yeah. Certainly. That would help. I would. Maybe let's put some shoes on.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
The answer was do more. Do something different. Change it up. Don't have the talent overall go down in one offseason when you're trying to chase this team like it did.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
I also want to give credit to Kansas City as we just like try to wonder aloud. We always give them credit.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
We just picked apart a true point that, you know, top corner was out injured. Let's not omit the times that Patrick Mahomes had a really bad ankle and he still found a way to not only beat them, but beat Philadelphia in a Super Bowl. Let's not forget the time that he got knocked out of a divisional round game against Cleveland and Chad Henney had to make the plays down the stretch.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
They also got the benefit of a targeting penalty that didn't go against them. There should have been a touchdown that might have changed the result of that game.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
You could, you could argue doing, doing nothing and just hoping that your, your luck changes is, is a move, is a calculated risk. But I would say that these are desperate times now for Buffalo. You look at the playing style of your quarterback. You look at all the comps. He's constantly compared to Cam Newton. A guy with that big of a frame that leans so much on his athleticism.
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The Big Suey: Do The Bills Need To Do Something Drastic?
Granted, he can throw the ball, but we're nearing the end of the window where we can count on that same sort of physical advantage for him. So if these are indeed desperate times, there's a cliche about that and what it calls for.
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The average fan doesn't root for historical greatness. The average fan roots for their team. And if you're a fan of almost any team in the NFL, Patrick Mahomes has beaten you in the last decade and you're sick of it. You want him to lose. That's how it ends up with the Patriots. At first, I was like, this is annoying. This is annoying. And then the Steelers kept losing to them in the playoffs.
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And I was like, all right, someone needs to stop this.
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Hey, howdy, listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
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Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. You know, as the football games get bigger, everybody's talking about hosting parties. It's always difficult. Everyone's got an opinion.
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Why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of Miller lights and make everybody happy? You could be on opposite sides of the big game, but you still know that you are brought together. by Miller Time. Miller Lite is a great unifier. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. The original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite. Great taste.
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96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller Time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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I don't think so, actually. Usually I'm all for making it a Miller time, but Greg's cooking. Yeah. Let's keep him like this. Cantankerous Greg.
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And here comes the butt. God bless Walter Payton.
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Yeah, but he was good for them.
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I've heard rumors that the expectation was that if Flacco won, he was going to give it to Damar Hamlin. And Flacco was like, no, this is mine.
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I think even if his last name was Tuesday, we don't really talk about him the same way. I think Sunday is like the only other day of the week he could have gotten away with.
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Are there incentives if you win? I assume some players probably have awards in their contracts where they'll get more money.
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There almost has to be. The league should donate to whoever wins. That's what I imagine they would do.
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This honestly may have to be Josh Allen's pivot. Just go all in on that award.
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The man of the year winner receives a $250,000 donation in his name to a charity of his choice. The other 31 finalists receive donations of their name of $50,000 to each charities of their choice.
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Cam Hayward won it last year. I did know that.
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Plenty of pictures. Posts like crazy. Because if I just do this for doing it, it's not as nice.
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That would be terrible to commit so much of your life to charity work. It'd be the worst, honestly. That would be so shameless, Dan.
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What a ruse. Terrible. Just to win the award. What's the cause? Water? Nah, not enough eyes.
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He's been doing a ticket giveaway?
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Like it's a stock photo probably?
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But you think that's the actual ticket for the seat?
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It's like when you have a phone number in a show and it's like 555, fake number.
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You think they should create multiple props for each city?
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I think you have to sit on the other person's lap who got there first.
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If you've got the storylines around that AFC championship. Yeah, it was enough. And it delivered. Those two teams always deliver. It's always the drama. It's like I'll never get sick of hyping that game between those two teams because it always delivers on every single one of the storylines.
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This is how we fix the Chiefs fatigue situation, by the way. Someone just hire Spags as your head coach.
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No, then I would have Bill's Chiefs fatigue.
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Right, so the Chiefs should agree to not be in the Super Bowl so they can play the Bills one more time and potentially not be in the Super Bowl. Correct.
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You guys are, like, shitting on the NFC side of this. I thought the Eagles game was pretty good, pretty interesting. Saquon Barkley is really freaking good.
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I will be right in a week.
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That's how you have to do it, Buffalo, around Josh Allen. And I know the contract's going to make it tough. It's made it tough for Patrick Mahomes, and he's found a way. Also, kind of funny that Patrick Mahomes is on the Chiefs because of a trade the Bills made, and Xavier Worthy cooks them, and Xavier Worthy is on the Chiefs, not the Bills, because of a trade the Bills made.
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Billy, we did it on air.
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Here, Billy, I'll debate something you said earlier. I don't think Josh Allen just chucked it up. I think he knew there was a receiver down there. If you look at the replay, his eyes are downfield. He's trying to find an open guy. And the pass was pretty good, too. Kincaid was sort of awkwardly turning. It was low. You couldn't catch it, and I feel bad for him.
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I don't think it was anything like the Mark Andrews play.
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Did you describe it as cyclones of menace and horror?
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And also his fourth and five. So if you throw up behind the line of scrimmage and he doesn't get the first down, the game's over anyway. So I get why he's looking downfield there.
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I have a bold take. I'm the man standing up in a crowd meme. I'm super into this Super Bowl. The one that we saw recently was one of the best Super Bowls ever. The line is already telling you, keep an eye on it, by the way, that these two teams are very close. The Eagles are a totally different team since their early season struggles.
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They've found this new explosive run game where I think you're accurate. It is a bit of a hot take because it'll get like picked apart but Jalen Hurts is probably of all their skills as skill guys the least impressive the least good at his job it's an unbelievable matchup the guy who said just run was London Fletcher I mean that does give it more credibility right he's holding it too long
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Oh, I'm in on that. Late-night Juergens. Sounds a lot like my high school experience, but either way, we're here.
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We have a fine situation. You mentioned London Fletcher, and it confused everybody. It wasn't London Fletcher, so that goes to the Venmo fine bucket.
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Ben Lieber, that's $2.00. Mike, you're going to have to come in here. We've got a QR code.
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Actually, if you go into your transaction history, you know the account, so you can just send it. Okay. There you go.
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I'm watching the line. Okay. I feel like we're being watchdogs right now.
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They are inevitable because they're not just always going to make the right plays. They're not just always going to, on both sides of the ball, do what they have to do to win the game. But also, they've got the friendly whistle, too. And they've had it for like seven years. It's just... In every game. It's a bummer.
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No, it was the right call and Patrick Holmes didn't shut up about it. Yes, right. Hey, howdy, listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
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Why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of Miller lights and make everybody happy? You could be on opposite sides of the big game, but you still know that you are brought together. By Miller Time. Miller Lite is a great unifier. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other Lite beers. The original Lite beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite. Great taste.
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It could be entirely possible that this is a Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love situation where the Eagles just have generational center after generational center. Yeah. But a couple months removed from him stepping down and getting all sorts of media opportunities that we've never seen a center in the NFL ever get. And they're much better at running the ball.
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They had seven rushing touchdowns. He goes in there hurt and they still dominate the line of scrimmage. Juergens tonight.
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I genuinely can't without Googling. I have to Google for assistance on finding out famous centers.
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I feel like it's Jeff Saturday, but if his last name wasn't Saturday, would he be as famous?
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Nick Mangold's been in a lot of commercials. Yes, that's a good one.
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Webster was a great answer, I thought.
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Is that what Marcus Lattimore does now?
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This dude's a problem. He's just always fighting.
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Yeah, I mean, Lattimore was at Ohio State and certainly in New Orleans. He was incredible. And now he's moved on and he's gotten kind of like bigger. And I don't know if he's just overcome. He was always physical, but now he's just really overcompensating because his body can't quite do the same things by just trying to be really powerful and mixing it up with big, strong guys.
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And like there was that that stretch where there's maybe like 35 seconds of game time where Philadelphia scored the 14 points when it was a one score game. And Lattimore is just totally out of the game in his own head. He's playing his own game with A.J. Brown.
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He just totally short-circuited. And he was brought in to be a soothing, veteran, calming presence there for that secondary. And the guy's just having a crisis of confidence within his own body. He's just overcompensating by just going crazy.
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I know this is a weird market to do this in. I've noticed from my group chats that a lot of people don't feel bad for the Buffalo Bills because they're Dolphins fans. But I woke up like I haven't hurt for a team that I haven't had a connection to like this in quite some time because Josh Allen and this Bills team gets to be historic losers.
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Sadly for that franchise, it's not the most known historic loser. But it's not like they choke in these games. It's not like you can pick apart his performance. He plays so well every time he goes up against Patrick Mahomes, and they still come up short.
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And we didn't obsess over this over the watch long because there's so many things going on and we're not here in the feed and I'm not monitoring social to know what a big deal it was. He got that first down.
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How does that happen? I mean, the angle from behind him made it seem obvious when he just needed to get to the pronounced line over there. But I think what stings the most, and you can see Josh Allen wearing it in his postgame, is it's not just a Super Bowl appearance for that market and his legacy. It's not even one potential championship.
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Mahomes is literally standing in his way from being Patrick Mahomes.
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Josh Allen would be Patrick Mahomes were not for Patrick Mahomes constantly throwing the door in his face.
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And think about the last two eliminations in the postseason. Josh Allen made the play. Kincaid can't make the play. Diggs can't make the play for him. He makes the throws in the moment. And to even come up with that throw after what I can only describe as a satanic disguised pass rush from Spaggs. It was evil.
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what we saw, and Josh Allen still found a way to get the ball off and find a receiver.
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I don't view them as villains either. I think maybe some of that stuff starts to play because Buffalo just seems pure.
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they they're they're you can root for that type of underdog from that market that that scrappy team and their playing style so when you juxtapose them from the other team that's just so likable maybe they become unlikable but i'm not there yet i wanted to see them lose someone made the point yesterday that we just went from like a dynasty to another dynasty with no break in the middle the last time that we saw an afc championship without the patriots or the chiefs was 2017 like
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I think it's two Super Bowls in a row. I think we all have Chiefs fatigue right now. Unless you're a Chiefs fan, you're like, man, I've already seen this matchup. I've already seen this head coach. I've already seen this quarterback. I've already seen this tight end. We're still doing this, huh?
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God bless football, Mikey A.
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If we were to rank the games from this weekend, Rams, Eagles, Texans, Chiefs, Commanders, Lions, Ravens, Bills, that was probably the worst of the games.
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That was the worst of the games.
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It wasn't bad.
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This was a big make-up week from last week.
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Coming off of a couple bad playoff weekends, this was a good playoff weekend. Including the college weekends and those because the college football playoff weekends were dreadful.
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At what point do we start sort of looking at the Texans? Because they make the playoffs every year, and they've never seen a championship game. Now, in their defense, I can't ever remember watching a Texans game where I thought they're the better team and they should win, and they didn't. But at the same time, the Texans make the playoffs every year, it feels like.
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Because of that terrible division. But they never win.
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I think that the Texans... So, like, it's similar to the Steelers, right? The Steelers get there and then are out early. But the Steelers have, obviously, you know, a great history and a very passionate fan base. And I am putting myself now in a bad position and I don't want to be, like, enemy number one of the Texans fans. I feel like part of it... is because they're the Texans.
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You know what I mean? Yeah, I get it. So it's like, ah, we're kind of just happy to be here. Like just two years ago, they were terrible before they had CJ Stroud. So it's like, okay, like we're, we're still kind of winding up. I think one, I think next year might be the year that if CJ doesn't get a playoff win, it starts a little bit.
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It's like, okay, CJ, like we're making the playoffs, but now we need to, we need to win in the playoffs and,
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I mean, everybody knows going into, like, when they start releasing when the schedule of playoff games is going to be. You get to circle that Saturday, that first Saturday, 4 o'clock game. You know that's going to be the Texans. You know they're hosting that playoff game because they're the team that they're just like, all right, I guess we've got to put the Texans in their usual slot.
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And then they're done. And it's like, okay. Congratulations. You made it to the Saturday playoff game.
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They won a playoff game this year.
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I know, but they're never a threat. We never talk about them like, oh man, who's going to beat the Texans? Even when they're good, they're... You're not – you've never seen a championship game.
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Coming into this season, it felt like we were going to see some of those games in the regular season where it was like, oh, Texas is going to be hard. And then, like, they had so many injuries. And TJ wasn't as good this year seemingly as he was last year. So, yeah.
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I mean, the thing is, is the AFC, like, I just – what are the Texans going to have – this is not where I thought we would be today, but what are the Texans going to have to do in the AFC –
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to become a team like that because the chiefs i'm not gonna say are kind of you know on the way down in their dynasty but if the chiefs lose next weekend to the bill spoiler or if the bills beat the ravens if you didn't watch any of football but you're listening today that happened we'll get to that in a moment
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But if the Chiefs lose to the Bills and don't make the playoffs, while they will fail in their quest for the first three-peat ever, I don't think it will be entirely surprising if they don't beat the Bills. And I also, and this sounds weird, don't think it's a failure of a season for them if they don't three-peat and win the Super Bowl. Because while they had the best record in the AFC season,
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they snuck by a lot and it felt like they were just kind of hanging around for this time. It's like the weird, it, I guess like the way you think of like load management in the NBA is what the regular season felt like for the cheese, but somehow they still won all of those games. You know what I mean?
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Like it felt like we were kind of just cheese for coasting through the regular season and then come playoff time, they're going to turn it on. And by the way, Anyone who's worried about Travis Kelsey, you're an idiot because he was incredible, incredible in that game to the point that it was almost negligence by the Texans to let him be so open so often.
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I couldn't believe how many times in that game Travis Kelsey was just standing wide open in the middle of the field.
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It almost feels like we got cheated, like he could have been doing this all season. Like, could he have been doing this all season?
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Load management, I'm telling you.
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And he just decided, I don't think you're wrong. I think they were just like, hey, here's a really good play where Travis will be wide open, but we're going to save this for the divisional round because there's just no reason to use Travis Kelsey until then.
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Yeah, yeah. Do you have any more thoughts on this? You want to move on to the next game? Because you were just saying about saving plays. Ben Johnson pulled out a play that shocked everyone that I don't think anyone had ever seen. And he was putting on a show.
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For any team that had interviewed Ben Johnson, the way they were doing some of these trick plays, you're like, oh, that could be mine next year? Yeah.
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oh okay let's do that it was such the the story of trick plays where he ran two or three of them in the game and the first two worked really well there was that one where they pitched it to david montgomery or then did a shovel pass and you're like oh this is amazing that was that was that was the play i like where you're going
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And then he does the other one where Jameis Williams just throws an interception because he's Jameis and Williams. And throws an interception when Jameis and Williams should A, not be throwing, and B, should not be throwing in that situation. And you're like, oh, this is a bad day for him.
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Can I tell you the rollercoaster of emotions I went on? Sure. First trick play that we just talked about, I was like, oh, okay, we're showing off. And then the second one, I seriously turned and I said to no one because my wife was not paying attention at all. So I guess I turned to my wife and I turned and I said, guy's going to cost himself a job on that failed trick play.
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I'm like, stop getting cute. You're going to cost yourself a job, buddy. You're fine. Everybody wants you. Don't do this to yourself. We don't need to do this. Dan Campbell crying after the loss.
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not commanders 45 lions 31 uh in case you didn't know the score of that game it it was unsurprising or surprising you said dan campbell crying is not surprising no he seems like a very emotional man one way or another emotional dude yeah like he he might have cried if they won like he might have been like i'm just so proud of these guys yeah tears of joy after halftime uh
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feel like it was Aaron Andrews but I could be wrong said I spoke to Dan Campbell he lost he barely could talk to me almost lost his voice I'm like that's that's it though like that's that's the state his voice is probably always in like I would hate to hear Dan Campbell's May voice you know what I mean like give him a couple months off let it recover heading into like you know
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the summer workouts post draft. He's now had a couple months, maybe he has some tea or whatever. And his voice is like, I don't want to hear that version of his voice. Like I want to hear his voice at all times. Exactly. Right.
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I won't recognize it. Yeah. Like what does he, what does he sound like when he's just ordering breakfast in June?
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Yeah. Oh man.
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Yeah.
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like hey give me give me two eggs two egg whites it would be funny if he had like a really high pitched voice we just had no idea because he's just always the thing is it's like i don't like mine i don't according to k funk yeah i don't i don't view him and i'm i'm sure i'm wrong about this i don't view him as like the tyrant yelling coach like on the sideline like particularly like if you think of like the college coaches like a saban or whatever like just like
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berating his players yelling them like that's not how i view him losing his voice like i view him just like doing everything like very intensely like you go up to the lions facility in the morning he's like what kind of coffee you got there today like just really excited about like everything's like who's ready to work calm down dan like relax also for those of you who were not part of this which is everyone in the world except me and mikey because we were having this conversation privately we were talking about coffee this morning
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Mikey and I don't want to betray him here bit of a coffee snob very much and he was talking to me and realized coffee not super huge down here in Miami we got some Cuban coffee in fact I will tell you this and this is I don't want to do like the whole thing where it's like Miami is the only place that says this but
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i don't think it's super common i guess it is but like we will refer to coffee as american coffee like like everywhere like no that's american coffee just because like we have a lot of cuban coffee down here it's like do you want american like i'm like i want coffee and they're like american coffee like yeah american coffee so if i were if you just plucked me down right in the middle of miami and i said to a random person where can i get a coffee
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Would they send me to a place where I can get an American coffee or a Cuban coffee?
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Depends where they send you. Is American coffee the way that it's it's described in a lot of places? It might be. I'm just unfamiliar.
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I would imagine a lot of like when I'm saying like you never say American coffee when you're getting coffee.
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No, no. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't think, yeah. Hartford area, Connecticut, I don't think there's a ton of Cubans up there. No, I'm not sure there's any. I mean, if they work for ESPN, maybe they're in the, you know, area. Who knows? The Commanders and the Lions game. Best game of the weekend. I mean, Bills. The other two were so good, too.
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god bless football mike yay god bless football billy gill uh hello everyone hello world it's monday january 20th 2025 here we are we made it look at us We made it through another round of the NFL playoffs. It is National Championship Day. Martin Luther King Day, too, by the way. Happy Martin Luther King Day. We had a big weekend of sports. We're going to try this morning.
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These three games that we have to talk about, so Rams, Eagles, Commanders, Lions, Ravens, Bills. They were all very good, and they were all very good, I think, for different reasons.
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Yes.
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I think that the Commander's Lions was like the shootout with not the best defense. Jared Goff, multiple interceptions, coming out party for Jaden Daniels. If you haven't been watching him all year long, you're like, whoa. Who is this guy? Ooh, actually, I'm adding this to my list. I have a big loser for the weekend. Winners and losers. Presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka.
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Please drink responsibly. You know what? Let's just do this right now. Winners and losers. Presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly. The first loser of the weekend. Stugatz's friend, Joe Shane, because for the rest of time, for the rest of time, Joe Shane is the GM of the New York Giants.
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For those of you who don't know, and he knows Stugatz because they were part of the same country club. Joe Shane, for the remainder of time, every time Jaden Daniels has a big game,
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We will see the clip of Hard Knocks where his, I believe, teenage son was telling him, you should really trade up to get Jade and Daniels while he's going around and asking all of his children on the weird Hard Knocks that we've never before. It was basically Hard Knocks Joe Shane. We just put a camera in Joe Shane's office and see what it is that he's up to in the offseason.
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Kind of like creepy, if we're going to be honest with you. So it's just kind of we're just seeing what it is that the Giants front office. So you can get a good idea of how to run a franchise. The Giants front office is doing in the offseason. And now we have the famous clip that we've seen over and over again of Joe Shane's teenage son telling him, you know what?
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Trade up and get Jaden Daniels in this draft. And he literally says to him, you're only going to get this job once. You might as well try to win. And he says, you know what I'm going to do? Trade Saquon Barkley or let him go. We don't need Saquon. We don't need Jaden. We got Daniel Jones. We're perfectly fine. He's going to be here a long time.
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Jets fans would trade right now for his teenage son as opposed to Woody Johnson. Wow, could you imagine? Who gets all of his ratings from Madden.
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So I think, and correct me if I'm wrong here, Mikey, I think Joe Shane's teenage son is the only person that hasn't applied and been interviewed for a job with the Jets because every single person on the face of earth... has completed their interview with the Jets because we're told every single day someone else has completed it.
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Some of them in person, some are on Zoom, but every single person is applying for every single Jets job, and they're letting us know about every single... Was Cade McCown the latest one? Did I see him?
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Josh McCown. Josh McCown. Okay. Josh McCown. The funny thing about... The really funny part about it is Woody Johnson is paying a consultant firm to give him...
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like names to interview and be part of the interview and i'm sitting here going what are you paying for because they literally gave you a list of everyone ever associated with the nfl ever yeah and they're like hey here's here's the list of people you should look at and it's 19 pages long and uh remember we get paid by the hour yeah so
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There's two moves by consulting firms, I think, and I've never been part of one, but I aspire to be part of one one day because it seems like quite the legal racket. So there's two moves. There's that move that they pull off where they just give you a billion options. And then at the end of the day, Mike Tannenbaum gets the job or.
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Or, and I don't know if you've seen this yet, Mikey, but if you want, and if you're a listener, Google this now at home. Google the old Walmart logo and the new Walmart logo. And I'll give you a moment, and I'll fill.
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But Google the new 2025 Walmart logo and the old one, and you will then see the second function of consulting firms because this is quite the magical move that I'm sure they were paid hundreds, if not thousands,
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millions hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars for this move where they basically just highlighted the text and hit bold and then in the little sun looking thing that they have they just made that a little bit thicker and moved it a little bit closer together yeah you know what
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This is the job I want. This is the job I want. You've changed the course of my life. I want to be a consultant to say, you know what you guys would do? You know what would drive your sales? Bold.
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To do what we normally do, also coming up, we have what is not necessarily the nicest thing that we've done to someone in the past. We have an exclusive interview. Golik will be joining us to preview tonight's national championship game. Stugatz will be with us for that interview as well. And Stugatz did his thing where we had a surprise guest for Golik.
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I think the hardest part, and it's like the Elaine Bennis of a job, where it's like, okay, now write 30 pages of on why this is different and why this represents the present standing of the company. And they will just... The new bold look really envisions the direction of the future that this company wants to go in.
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Because that's what we want to be.
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It's more... It's really... And notice it's slightly closer together. That represents the unity within the company and within the community and really within America moving forward that we aspire to bring everybody together while you're shopping through our... Exactly. While you're shopping through our aisles, we really...
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unifying front that's why they seem slightly closer together and the yellow we didn't change that that was fine
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no that was that was like yeah it doesn't say that we want to embrace our past that's part of our we kept companies rich history we kept the exact same colors to not gear too far off of our unified vision and really honoring the legacy of sam walton it's like thanks guys perfect with one eye on the past and one eye on the future exactly right that's why um okay so the lions did kind of what the lions do and they they except for last year and they they blew it
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And the Commanders now, are they going to be not the favorite on the field, but the rooting favorite in the NFC?
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Easily.
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Up against the Eagles? Is that just like area bias for you? Do you hate the Eagles?
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So I think as someone who grew up a New York sports fan, even though I'm a Boston-hating New York fan, not a Philly-hating one, I can't – I'm with them in like I don't like Philly. I was wondering, like, for you, this college football national championship, which we'll get to in a few minutes with Mike Golick, you said, like, there's no good outcome for me.
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Like, I'm going to have to watch either Notre Dame or Ohio State win. And for me, like, I... It's an easy choice for me. I'm rooting for Notre Dame, even though I'm neutral about Notre Dame. It's an easy choice for me. But I'm looking at the teams left for the NFL, and I'm wondering, like, what's best case scenario for me? And the clear answer is Washington.
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Yeah.
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But, like, I will be upset if pretty much any other team wins.
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Huh. So the Chiefs is just you're tired of the Chiefs.
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It's that I'm tired of them. It's like, and I think Patrick Mahomes is kind of becoming a little bit of a sports villain in like the flop. The flop is kind of the kind of thing where you go, all right, I'm sick of this. I'm a little over it.
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I will remind you, and I'll say tread lightly, Chiefs Kingdom embraced us earlier this season.
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Listen, it's not them. It's not even the team. It's fatigue. And I don't think any Chiefs fan would be like, yeah, I don't see that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So the Chiefs obviously are in. The Bills beat the Ravens. We haven't gotten to that yet, but we'll get to that. You don't like the Bills.
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Listen, you can't be a Jets fan and be like, yeah, you go Bills.
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And if you listen to it, you should know that at the time, if you're listening to the audio, Mike Golick was wearing an Under Armour shirt with The Rock's logo on it. And maybe I led him to believe that it could be The Rock. And then, spoiler alert, and I'm going to tell you because when he comes on and we just say his name, you may not know.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Somebody asked me if I would rather the Dolphins win the Super Bowl or the Patriots.
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Oh.
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I just left. I couldn't answer that.
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Really?
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Yeah, I just left.
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You don't like the Dolphins that much? I kind of thought that the Dolphins were irrelevant to everyone at this point in time.
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The Dolphins were the biggest... rival for the longest time. Yeah, but that's a long time. So good. Yeah, like it's it's it's but those Patriots don't exist anymore.
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Those Patriots are the past. Yes, that's right. That's why we still use the yellow. Yes, because of the Patriots. All right. Well, the commanders now are everybody's darling favorite team, and they've gone from a team that is playing with house money to a team that now everybody is hoping and praying beats the Eagles next round. I think I think
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I think outside of Philadelphia, I think pretty much everybody, because like even Cowboys fans and Giants fans who are like, I can't root for my rival are like, yeah, but if I had to root for one of my rivals, it'd be that one.
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Yeah. Yeah. I made the mistake yesterday in fantasy. You can compete against us in fantasy. Go to DKNG.co slash Smirnoff. Our fantasy contest is presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly. When we're this late in the game. of fantasy and you only have four games, there's very little variance in who everybody is taking.
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A lot of people are just taking the same people. So you have to go out on a limb and, uh, and really find where the hidden gems are. So I thought everyone is going to do Josh Allen this week because, you know, it's easy money. So I went with Jaden Daniels, which ended up working out except, except, uh,
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He was doing this cute little game where he was passing the ball up until the two-yard line, and then they were running everything in. So we were not getting any touchdown points. So while he had a great game, he didn't get me what I needed. Jameer Gibbs. Oh, Jameer Gibbs. Oh, Jameer Gibbs. I thought he was going to carry me to fantasy heaven.
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And then I made the mistake of taking Derek Henry over Saquon Barkley because my thinking was, this is my thought process. I had looked in the weather and I was like, Buffalo is going to be a messy game. They're going to be running all day long in Buffalo. And sure enough... It was okay. It was pleasant enough. Josh decided I'm passing today. And he was going to throw also.
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So did Lamar to his detriment. But Josh decided he was going to pass today. I can't imagine. And we've now skipped a game. We'll go back. I can't imagine catching a ball in that weather. Because it must be like catching a bowling ball. And Mark Andrews. Oh, buddy.
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Maybe they should have let the air out of the ball a little bit. Maybe. Some Hall of Famers would say the best way to combat that is to...
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let a little air out some say that you say some some say that i i have thought this year this is completely obviously unrelated to what we're talking about i have thought this year tom brady's been fine People are very anti-Tom Brady. He's fine. I mean, I'm not going to put it this way. I'm not going to not watch a game because of Tom Brady taking some sort of stand to bring Greg Olson back.
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You're not going to know who it is.
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Like, I'm okay. I'm watching the game. I'm fine.
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I want him to be better. I want him to be better. He can be better. I'm not saying that he's not good. I'm not saying... I feel like... I feel like what he does is he analyzes every play. And I'm like, you know what, Tom? Some plays are just a one-yard run, and they can just be a one-yard run. Whereas he's like, no, see, here's what's happening. And it's like, I don't need to know.
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You may not know based on name alone, but... It's the coach of Northern Illinois' football team, the only team to beat Notre Dame this year. We kind of wanted to get the X's and O's, the how Ohio State can beat Notre Dame tonight. And we were really just trying to agitate Golik, if I'm going to be perfectly honest with you. And he was a lovely man.
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Maybe just give me a little personality and a little less analytics there.
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Now, here's the tricky part. Who tells him that? Because I think that may be where we're at. I think that may be where we're at with this experience. It's like Tom may come in. I don't know if he's going in and he's like, how'd that go? And everyone's like, that was great. That was perfect, Tom. He's like, okay. And then he goes home or he's just like, I'm Tom Brady. I got this.
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But it's probably somewhere in the middle, right? No one wants to be the person to sit down and be like, Tom, listen.
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What's so funny about that? A little behind the scenes, a little... Little bragging on my part here. Worked with a lot of former athletes. Yeah. A lot of good ones. A lot of great ones. A lot of mediocre ones. No. And here's the thing. They all still want to be coached. They still want the film room Monday. They still want you to say, hey, here's what you did well. Here's what you got to work on.
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Here's how you do it. They all still want that.
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Yeah, but I don't think there's many people telling Tom.
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Well, you have to be willing to coach, Tom.
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Yeah. Wow.
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Hey, Tom, I'll do it. Tom, I'll do it.
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They bring in Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick, media coach, after a year in the media himself. He's won. No one was giving him tips on. You know what I mean? It's like, whatever Bill gives us, Bill gives us. I'm not sitting down with Bill.
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Coaches don't want to be coached.
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Coaches don't want to be coached. No, not going to happen. Anyways, Rams-Eagles. We got to a point. Rams seemed to have put that one away. Or, sorry, Eagles seemed to have put that one away. Rams got right back in that one. I don't know how they managed to pull that one off. Saquon...
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That was the best game of the weekend. Like, you asked before, Washington and the Lions was the most entertaining. But the best game of the weekend was the one that went down to that. Oh, maybe Buffalo.
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No, because here's what I will tell you about Buffalo and the Ravens. That game was not as exciting and fun as the Commanders and Lions game, and I don't think was as good as the Rams and Eagles. While they seem to have been playing in worse conditions than Rams and Eagles, Ravens-Bills was a little bit sloppy. It was a close game, but not... a classic game, if that makes sense.
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I feel bad for Lamar Jackson because Lamar Jackson, aside from the turnovers, but Lamar did what he had to do to win that game And now that will be forgotten within a few weeks. And then next year in the playoffs, it will go back to. And there'll be, you know, the videos and the notes of how Mark Andrews was a big loser and winners and losers presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka.
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There'll be a slight note, but history will forget that Mark Andrews had that two point conversion dropped, that he had that fumble and it will just fall back on Lamar.
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And I think we fell in love with him, and he's probably rooting for Notre Dame today. Oh! And we get to the bottom of one of life's most pressing questions. And I don't know why I'm giving away all of the goods now, but we find out what Marcus Freeman smells like. So if you ever wondered to yourself, what does Marcus Freeman smell like? Stick around. You're going to hear that a little later today.
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not being able to get it done unfortunately because again he did everything that he could do and he is going to be the victim in this narrative because they did not lose because of him but that's not how it's going to be remembered and here's the other thing i'll say about that game um it went down to a failed two-point conversion because mark andrews forgot how to catch
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And I don't think it could have lived up to the hype. I don't think anything we could have gotten in that game could have lived up to what we thought we were going to get in that game. And then we came off of a really good game. I think maybe that's why I don't view it as the best game of the weekend, because I was expecting so much more than I got, and I still got really good.
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Yeah, no, this weekend was great. Yesterday's games were great. Again, the fact that we were saying Texas and Chiefs was the worst game of the weekend, that wasn't even a bad game. It was just there was three really good games this weekend. Setting up, if the season ended today, Mikey... Great matchups next week.
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We have the Commanders and the Eagles, which you have already told us you want the Commanders to win the Super Bowl. You're rooting for them. And then we have Chiefs and Bills, which I think this is only the second time that they're playing each other in the conference championship with Mahomes and Josh Allen, because I think they always end up running into each other around sooner.
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So I think this is the first time since 2020 the Bills are going to be in the AFC championship game. And it's lining up nicely for them because, as we mentioned, results of this week's game aside, the Chiefs do seem to not be the Chiefs that we've seen, even though they looked pretty good. But that could just be that they were playing the Texans.
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If the Bills were to make it to the Super Bowl on somewhat of a down year on this 15-2 Chiefs team... I think this works out great for everyone because that even Patrick is like, well, you know, now he can go home, spend time with his kids. And, you know, the pressure of the three-peat is done. And then next year is kind of a bounce-back year or whatever. But we'll see. I'm excited about that one.
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That one is the Sunday night game next week, I believe.
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Are you saying that if the Chiefs lose the AFC championship game, it's a good loss? Is that a good loss?
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It's a good loss for the Chiefs, yeah. It's a good loss? It's a good loss.
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To lose the AFC championship game, you're saying for the Chiefs, because that's going to set them up for the next five years.
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It's a good loss, yeah. It's a quality loss by the Chiefs. Okay, let me say this. The Chiefs are the team of the commanders, because if the commanders lose, they weren't supposed to be there. And by the way, By the way, people of the world, I believe if you go back, and I'm asking you not to do so, but I believe if you go back about five or six weeks ago, I said the commanders might be frauds.
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So don't go back and look into that.
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Don't do that.
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You have no reason to go back. I forgot that you should too. You have no reason to go back six weeks and listen to old episodes of God bless football. That stuff's dated. I would appreciate it if you did, but don't do that. We don't need that. Just, but like Walmart, we're just focusing on the future with our new, our new look here. Exactly right.
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Well, no eyes on the past in this situation, both eyes on the future. If the commanders lose, whatever, they weren't supposed to be there. If the Eagles lose, people are going to want to fire Sirianni again. Obviously, that's what's going to happen. They're going to want to immediately fire Sirianni. If the Bills lose...
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You start having that conversation of... I saw a clip of Peyton Manning talking to Kevin Clark about Josh Allen. And he was saying that Josh is facing some of the same things that he would face in his career, at this point in his career, where it was, Peyton Manning is really good, but... And Josh Allen is really good, makes all these great plays, but... And he was saying how Josh...
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Also, I just want to say, God bless football is presented by Spiranoff. We do game days. Please drink responsibly. So we have winners and losers coming up. I have big board bets in a somewhat abridged version of God bless football. Cause you know, it's, you know, we're down a couple of people, the holidays, people were traveling, you know, some people have said, you know what?
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needs to remove the butt, which is kind of where this game is. This is a game to get to the Super Bowl. If he doesn't win the Super Bowl this year, he made it to the Super Bowl. And then there's like, okay, we'll be back. Whether they are or not, it doesn't matter. But the thinking will be, okay, we'll be back to the Super Bowl. This is a great step to make it to the Super Bowl.
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Not how we wanted the season to end, but a great step. If he loses this game... you're kind of right back in the exact same position. It's the first time again in five years that they've been to the AFC Championship game, but you're back in the same position of... Here we go again, which is unfair to him because going into the season, no one thought that they would be anywhere near this position.
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They thought that this was going to be an off year for the Bills. They got rid of Stephon Diggs. What are his weapons going to be? So I think he's got to win, which is why. Chiefs, good loss. Good loss for the Chiefs. Maybe you see, even though now we're in it, now they might as well go all the way, you know, if you're the Chiefs. Because you're not, what are you getting? Two weeks off?
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Like, that's... I'll play two more weeks. What difference does that make? And if you don't make the playoffs, you get a whole month or you lose the first round and you get extra week. Now you might as well two weeks. Anyone can do two weeks, right? Sure. Okay. There's a national championship game tonight. We haven't really talked about the Rams and the Eagles.
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Well, all we've really said is Saquon. So good. And I don't know how much more needs to be said about that game. So national championship is today. We're going to talk to Golik, and we're going to talk to the head coach of Northern Illinois. I don't know what happened to me there. The only team to beat Notre Dame this year.
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But before we do that, Mikey, I thought it'd be fun if I gave you, because it's Monday, obviously.
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Need it.
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I thought it'd be fun if I gave you a little BB BB BB national championship edition.
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So the first one that I'm going to do here, is this the first ever BB BB BB college? I can't remember you ever doing it.
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I think this is the first college edition of this game. And if I'm going to be honest with you as to why it is that I'm doing it, besides the fact that it is Monday, it is because right now my record on the season is 47-29. And in my dream fantasy world, I go 3-0 and I hit 50 wins. And then I am sitting pretty. And maybe moving forward, this then becomes... For the last two weeks of the season.
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Maybe this will become a Friday situation. But I'm leaning towards no. Because Stugatz doesn't seem to like me doing this. And he doesn't seem to like when I win these things. Because he'll just tell you how great his record has been. Even though he changes the lines in every single one of the game. So... This may be the last one of the season to be determined.
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We were talking about Ohio State and Notre Dame before, Mikey. And you were saying how you have become a Notre Dame fan. I was at a... Instead of Buffalo, I was at a three-year-old's birthday party yesterday, which was a surprise birthday I didn't know about. But then found out, like, oh, we are going to a birthday party in two hours.
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So... And, oh, can you go buy a present for said birthday party, which I had to do. So... I went to this birthday party yesterday, and I was talking to some of my – my brother-in-law was there. I was talking to some of the dads. And they, like you, are rooting for Notre Dame, which I thought was weird and I think is just an age thing down here because Miami has a unique –
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I'm going to sit by my TV. Yeah. One of the biggest football weekends of the year, national championship for big playoff games. We'll take this one off, maybe sitting around watching the inauguration today. I don't know what people are doing. It's snowing everywhere. People probably snowed in as well. I mean, probably not as many people from our office are snowed in since we live in Miami.
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hatred for both teams sure the older generations remember Notre Dame and the Catholics versus convicts and they hate Notre Dame I don't like Notre Dame because I think they're annoying but I don't have the same passion because also I don't really care about the University of Miami now Ohio State
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has like a... Miami still believes that they were robbed a national championship to Jim Trestle and Ohio State. So they do not want Ohio State, even though Ohio State has won a national championship since, they do not want Ohio State to win a national championship. So down here, it's kind of interesting because of the whole University of Miami dynamic with both teams.
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So anyways, I am going to take the over... 45 and a half points.
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So all that to say you're not picking a team yet?
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This is what I'm going to say. I'm taking the over of 45 and a half points. Why am I taking the over, you ask? Because I have done terribly this year when I take the under at anything. So I have told myself, Billy, stop taking the under. Just root for an entertaining game. So I'm going to take the over of 45 and a half points. That's my first one. My second one. Jeremiah Smith, Anytime Touchdown.
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I like that one.
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I'm just doing that one for Mikey because Mikey said take Jeremiah Smith anytime touchdown last week.
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Well, I was trying to let you have it. I was trying to let you have it.
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No, no, no, no, it's fine, it's fine. And then Fuentes said take Jeremiah Smith over everything. But I trust Mikey more than I trust Fuentes, so Jeremiah Smith anytime touchdown. And finally, and again, we're going to have Mike Golick on here next. And I want to thank Jess and Lucy because I reached out to them to see if they wanted to join today.
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Both were willing, and I ended up saying, you know what, it is early on Martin Luther King Day.
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You go ahead and enjoy, yeah.
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Well, they're both going to the national championship game tonight. So I said, you know what? You guys just enjoy this week. Enjoy this game. Enjoy the national championship. We'll catch up with you later this week. So shout out to them because they were willing to come on and partake in the fun today. And again, the fun is not stopping. We're going to talk to Mike Golick coming up next.
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And I'm really going to try to agitate him if I'm going to be honest with you. My final pick headed into agitating Mike Golick. Notre Dame plus 8.5. Yeah, it hurts me. It really hurts me to do it. It hurts me. So many points. And selfishly, I don't know if they're going to win. I want both teams to lose.
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But I selfishly just want a good national championship game because there have been some stinkers as of late. I just want a close one. 8.5 points is a lot of points. So anyways, coming up next... As we've teased a billion times by now, Mike Golick gets us ready for the national championship game with a special guest.
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It doesn't really snow here, but snowed in right after this. Mikey has to go out. He has to plow some snow to save his family from being trapped in.
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You know what? It's more of there are things that we plan to get done today and nobody can get out of the garage until I clear a path. And, you know, some of us said they were going to be here and then decided not to, not naming any names or anything like that. But me and Billy are here.
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So, Mike, I have a theory on the national championship I want to share with you that I'm not sure you're going to be too fond of, but I've been floating it out there.
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I believe that it is best for business for you for Notre Dame to lose the national championship this year. And I'll tell you why.
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Hear him out, Mike. Hear him out on this. This isn't a bad theory. He's been peddling this for a while. And to be honest with you, originally I had your reaction. I was like, come on, man. Mike wants Notre Dame to win. But there's some logic to this.
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This is going to take something from you here, Billy.
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Okay, well, here's the deal. Naturally, your heart wants Notre Dame to win the national championship, but your head may not, and you just don't know it until I now give you this theory of mine. I believe that once Notre Dame wins the national championship...
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I think some of the opportunities that you get as a distinguished Notre Dame name are going to start going to the Riley Leonard's of the world. You know what I mean? They're going to say, you know what, let's get, let's get some national champions on here.
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And I feel like then maybe they're going to disrespect all of what you've done for the university for all of the years for all these Johnny come lately. And I don't like it. I don't like it one bit. So I, because I care about you, I, I'm rooting for Notre Dame to lose so that you get to still have your Sterling standing within the community.
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I appreciate that very much.
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You're welcome.
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I disagree. Hey, give the fruits to the people who won the title. If they get the accolades, they deserve it. So be it. If I have to take a step back, so be it. I still live within a block of the campus. It's not like I won't be around. And I doubt all of a sudden I'll stop being let into practice to watch. Now, if that happens, you know, I'll, I'll raise an eyebrow, but I don't know.
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No, I am all for giving the love to those who win it. So while I understand and I appreciate your concern for me, I still hope that they win the title.
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What about, what about the, the, the, the crop that isn't part of the national championship team, but like the Kyle Rudolphs who you like, you didn't win a national championship, but you're just newer to the Notre Dame community.
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It'll be interesting how – now, a lot depends on how much you're around, right? You can't just show up once a year and expect to have the red carpet laid out for you. You have to kind of be around. You have to be at games. You have to be at practice. You have to – if you're invited to talk to the team, talk to the team. So you have to stay involved with the team.
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And Billy, I'm watching these snow games because it feels like all the games were in either bitter cold or snow or indoors the last two games. And I'm wondering, like... Is that something you would want to do? Like if we could go to the Bills game or the Chiefs game or even the Eagles game where it looked – for those of us that live in snow, you know there's snow and there's that wet rain snow.
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But this is my concern, Mike, because I feel like now your six-month commitment to Notre Dame is going to have to become a year-round commitment where maybe we spend a lot more time at the South Bend estate. You know what I mean? Or maybe they say, you know what? This is nice. You're a block away from campus, but this is for winners. You're going to have to move three blocks away from campus now.
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You know what I mean? Here's the thing. I believe that you believe that they're not going to do this to you. But I believe they're not going to stab you in the front. I think we need to keep an eye on them because it's the ones that you love the most that can hurt you the most. And I think that if we're not looking out for you, they may break your heart, and I don't want you to be heartbroken.
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I appreciate your concern for me. I personally am not worried about it. I have too much respect for Marcus Freeman that he wouldn't do that to former players because he's made such a point of bringing former players back into the fold. But it's noted. I do appreciate your concern.
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Yeah. How do we feel about Father Dowd? Is he one that would hurt you?
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No. How about Father Dowd, the new president of Notre Dame, and Pete Bavocqua, the new AD of Notre Dame? Here they are, their first year in the gig, and their team's playing for the national championship. I mean, that's pretty damn impressive.
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Yes. Which isn't shocking. But they are for nice reasons.
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He does. He does. Well, I do appreciate that. I'm not too worried. You know what? It's a good problem to have.
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Well, it may not be. That's what I'm getting at. It seems hypothetically like a good problem to have until we have it. So I'm trying to avoid it. I have a golden heart for the Golden Domers. You know what I mean?
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I'm willing to roll the dice.
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No, not at this point. I don't think he wants to go to the NFL. Just yet. He just signed the extension with Notre Dame. They're paying him good bucks. I do think he'll be around. I know his name has been attached to the Bears, but I don't think that he wants to. I'm not sure what his goal is, if he wants to coach in the NFL or not. But I don't think he wants to right now. That would be my guess.
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It was that, staying at your house, Billy, and the fact that I have PTSD about that stadium in Notre Dame. They played there for the title when my boys were on the team in 2013 in that stadium and got smoked by Bama, so I didn't feel like revisiting.
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It looks very different now, Mike. You wouldn't even recognize it from that game. They have the roof on there. It's a totally different vibe, but I get it. I get it. Not the house thing. I don't understand why you don't want to stay at my house, but I get the whole PTSD from this. Yeah, look, I'm going to assume it's that it's more.
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Look at that couch. How inviting is that couch to lay on? So my legs could hang over the end of it.
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Oh, no, that's a sofa bed that pulls out.
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Oh, that would be great. Yeah. Like they all have that bar in the middle. I'm going to lay on the bar. That would be awesome.
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No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't.
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The bar, the bar just would be right in the middle of my back. I would just get a horrible night's sleep.
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Yeah, they just emailed. Do they want to get him on now? And I said, yes, please. Yes, please. I'm assuming any second here.
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And it's very different than – than actual big flakes of snow. Is that something you'd want to do? Would you be okay if I was like, hey, Billy, I got two tickets to the Bills game. You want to go?
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Any guesses?
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Listen, knowing you guys, I have no clue. Zero clue.
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Knowing us, you kind of have a clue.
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It's nice that you wore that shirt today. I'll just say that. Yeah. He's wearing a shirt of The Rock for everyone who's listening. Wow. Yes.
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I think he thinks it's The Rock now.
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I would have thought it would be someone associated with Notre Dame.
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Yeah, well, maybe. Who knows? It might be. Maybe. I have a question for you, Michael, that I want to get to the bottom of. Because Jessica told this story on the show a couple weeks back. So she was there for the first playoff game. Yes. Where you guys were hosting Indiana. Yes. And then she told us that there was a gathering at your house after the game where some former players were there.
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And she ran into Shane Gillis, who was just kind of hanging out at your house. Now, not at the house was you or your son, because you both went out of Dodge right after the game, had flights to go and you weren't there, but still hosted a house party for a who's who of Notre Dame people.
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Yeah, that was a turn. And I didn't even know that that Shane Gillis was there. I had heard that he wanted to.
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I mean, and have a couple of beers. But Mike and I had to go work the Penn State SMU game the next morning. So we had a 1 a.m. flight. that we took, and my son Jake was at the game as well.
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He drove us to the airport, so while we were all going to the airport, Shane Gillis, Kyle Rudolph was over the house, Braxton Cave was over the house, and they were with Shane during the game, and Shane, as they were, they used our house as kind of a place to wait for an Uber, Shane came by and was just hanging out. And Jess Matana, who we're talking about, she was staying at the house.
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We had her stay at the house for the game. She walks in and says, there's Shane Gillis sitting there having a beer. I mean, I thought I had heard he might come over, but I knew we weren't going to be there. So, yeah, we just kind of host people even if we're not there.
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Well, so amongst just us friends here.
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Not everyone. Not everyone is hosted. Sometimes we ask to come and we're not invited. Yes. Well, no, that's on purpose.
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Well, I just I just opened my couch for you.
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Wow.
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Just me and you. Safe space.
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It's already happened. I'll confess to you that I was working on something the last two weeks and really last week came up with a good And I had plans to go to Buffalo for the game. And we have someone that we work with, Taylor, who went to college with Mac Hollins. So he had assured me that if we were to go, we were going to on Saturday. And I'm sure he didn't run this by Mac.
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Coach, let me tell you, I was at that game. I was very sad at that game. But, I mean, as a former player who played for a number of coaches, I was extremely, when I sat down and got over the sadness of Notre Dame losing, I was so happy for your players and you as a coach. I mean, for coming into the stadium, I mean,
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What were you saying to the team on the sidelines at halftime when we kept expecting Notre Dame to come back and they weren't?
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He's still not. It'll take a win on the championship game for Mike to truly be okay.
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No, no. As I said, in the moment, I wasn't happy. But then, listen, it's a reality. Northern Illinois won the game. I was happy for the players. And I know he had some injuries. He got hurt in that game. But Ontario Brown, wow. I mean, he was so big in that game. I mean, rushing and caught a couple of balls for over 100 yards. I mean, you needed a guy to stand out.
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And in that game, anyway, he really stood out.
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So when you're game playing, and Notre Dame plays about as much man as anybody in the country. And with Jeremiah Smith and Emeka Abuka, I mean, that's going to be a difficult task. As a coach, and this is for Al Golden, the D coordinator, do you change up and say, we're going to have to play more zone? Or do you say, hey, we're in the national championship. We play mostly man.
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We're just sticking with what we do.
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Coach, coach, when you guys beat Notre Dame and you go after the game and you shake hands with, you know, Coach Freeman and and you see some of the other players, you like go up to any of the Notre Dame players and say, you know what? Like, we got room for you next year on this roster if you want to join a winner like any of that happened.
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but the plan was on Saturday to interview Mac and we would just be walking through the snow barefoot as we were doing the interview. So like we'd be hanging out with Mac, just walking around in the snow barefoot, which would have led to me being very sick, but probably worth, probably worth it. And then we probably would have done like, the idea was like,
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What did you say and what did Marcus say to you after the game in the middle of the field?
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You shouldn't have a rooting interest in the national championship game, but it would be fair to assume that you'd like Notre Dame to win, correct? Just because of the fact that you would then be the only team that beat the national champion. I imagine his kids are aware of it, right?
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You will. You will always have that memory, and that's something that will last for you and the kids for a long time, no doubt about it.
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have a content, a quote unquote content house. And it was really just because this was like our cost efficient pitch was like, well, if we get like an Airbnb and there's like three of us going, three or four of us going, we just put everyone in the same thing. We save hundreds of dollars on hotels that way.
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Yeah, we're going. Big matchup between you and Michigan this week.
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Coach, I'm sorry. I'm sorry you have to deal with this.
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Oh, God. Stop it. Coach, just go.
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I appreciate you stopping in. Leave before it gets too crazy.
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Thanks. Thank you, Coach.
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What a day. In all honesty, what a day for them that had to be.
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Yeah, yeah. Not many people giving Notre Dame a chance, that's for sure. But, hey, we're in the game. And I think it'll be a hell of a game.
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yeah uh mike we'll let you go here in just a second just back to marcus freeman nfl i he'd be crazy he is good mike if you win a national championship at notre dame it will never get better and bigger than that for him he'll never be more relevant than he is again it comes down to what your goals are if you want if you want to coach at the highest level that's the nfl if that's a goal of marcus freeman's and eventually he gets the chance to he may take it because that's a goal it's just like a player a player would like to play in the nfl that's the goal
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And to hope to make it. So if that's a coach's goal and they get the opportunity and he takes it, I would be bummed he left Notre Dame. But I would be happy that he got to achieve a goal.
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I'll risk it. Again. I'll risk it being bad for the Golik family. Believe me. Wow.
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That's okay. I've had a good run.
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So it's like, okay, well, we'll just like, we'll say we'll do this interview with Mac, which he claims he was going to get done. And then we'll like, I don't know, live watch along, you know, the Saturday night game or something. I think Texans Chiefs. Right. And there was no Commanders Lions. Wow. What a game that was. We'll get to that in a minute.
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And then on Sunday, because we didn't get approved for credentials, it was almost a benefit because it was like, OK, cool, like full party mode game.
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in the snow in the bills parking lot um and then maybe i pay some penances for my sins against josh allen maybe i go through a table maybe it's on fire who knows just try some ketchup and mustard yeah that was probably gonna be see i draw the line there i draw the line there too like that was gonna be my line just because i then have to like because then it becomes like ketchup and mustard icicles on me all day long and like
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Going through a table. Okay. Catching on fire. My wife's not listening. Okay. Like I'm fine with, with these things, you know, uh, yeah. Eat a disgusting amount of like food. And, and like, since, you know, I'm not credentialed, maybe, you know, consume any drink that I'm handed, like fine. That's part of the job that day, but the ketchup and mustard was going to be my line. So.
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it didn't end up spoiler alert. I'm here in my house. That trip didn't get approved. So it never happens. Uh, but to answer your question, yeah, I, the idea of it for a day seems like fun. Like, so as someone who's not like a, you know, snow person, obviously because of where I live, um, my wife a couple of years ago was like, I want to see snow. She had never seen snow.
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So she wanted to see snow. So I told her, like, pick a place. And this was for like a birthday present. Her birthday is in December. So I said, for your birthday, pick a place and we'll go to, you know, hopefully see snow like, you know, after Christmas this year. So she ended up picking Chicago and we had no idea how terrible Chicago is at that time of year.
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I already see where this is.
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the wind chill i already know where you went wrong wind chill is like negative 15 it's on a lake you know this and the wind really the windy city really picks up there is horribly cold so my uh my thing on snow is it's fun for like the first hour and a half and then it's like okay this is terrible why did we do this and i don't know if you're the same way i mean you need to you need to save your family you're trapped in the house are there any errands let me ask you and we're
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Guys, I promise we're going to get to football. But sure, this is the important stuff. The errands that are not being done today because you're snowed in until you go out and clear the path. Are any of them your errands?
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Of course not.
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OK, of course. So it benefits you to go out and do that. And then you theoretically would have the house somewhat to yourself or you will like the busy bodies will be gone.
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Maybe kids are off today. So same errands are going to get run. And the kids solo and the kids stay home with me. And honestly, that's that's kind of what I'm putting off, because while they're ready to go run and frolic and play in the snow for hours, I am with you where it's like, OK, this was fun for a half an hour up. You hit daddy with a snowball. I hit you with a snowball. Let's go in.
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They're like, no, let's now build a snow fort and a snowman and go sledding down this minor hill. And then let's drive to the big hill where we can go to sledding a thousand times. And my little guy is going to go a hundred miles an hour and I'm going to have to run down the hill to make sure he's okay. And then have a heart attack trying to walk my fat ass back up the hill and
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So that, you know, that's what it is. And so I would much rather run errands and shovel snow than deal with a kid's snow day for the entirety of the day.
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
Why don't you volunteer to do the errands? Say, hey, to you, I'm like, hey, you know, like you could, you could really use a break. I see like you're, why don't you stay in?
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
Because my wife knows, because my wife knows, like it's, You're not fooling her. You're not telling her, I'll run the errands to give you a break. She goes, no, the errands are the break. She knows.
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
You know what's funny? And by the way, Texans 14, Chiefs 23, Patrick Mahomes continues to just get every call. Even when he's not getting hit, it's roughing the pass running.
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
You know what? Listen, I want to get back to the snow stuff. But that fake flop he did where he was trying to get the call and didn't get one, that's the kind of thing that will make you not like him. Because you get every call. You don't need to sell one. You get every call. And I get it. The refs did this. Okay, I get it. But, like, you don't need to make a bad situation worse.
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
The perception is already you get every call. Don't flop. Please don't flop.
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
Well, the one where the two Texans hit themselves in the helmet and he ducked under both of them and Troy Aikman nearly lost it. He was just kind of wandering around there in the middle of the field looking to get hit. It sounds like a crazy thing to say, but once you see it and you're looking for it, it's like, okay, he's trying to just get hit here. Hard, soft, but he's just looking to get hit.
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
Which, by the way, and we'll get to it in a minute, Our friend Josh Allen, not immune to that criticism either. He just doesn't get the same number of calls that Patrick Mahomes gets for whatever reason. Also, big storyline of that game. Huge storyline of the game that we haven't gotten to yet. Kalen Clark was sitting next to Taylor Swift, so that has now been covered.
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
From big-time Swifty to now, I guess, friend for a day, Kalen Clark and Taylor Swift.
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How did that happen? Like I would call two to be like, like did Taylor say, Hey Caitlin, you should come to a game with me one day. No. And Caitlin was like, so the playoffs. And he was like, Oh, I don't know that we're, we're playoff suite friends. I was thinking more like week seven against the Panthers. You should come to the game.
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
So I'm thinking and I don't know this, obviously, how how would I know this? And we have we have we'll get to winners and losers. This is going to be a winner and loser. We'll get to that in a minute. I think what happened there was and it could be wrong. I would imagine that there was somehow a Kelsey connection there, right?
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Like maybe she met Jason or someone crossed paths with Travis, and then they're like, oh, we should get you out to this game. And I don't want to... Look, I think it's documented. Taylor Swift was not a huge sports fan before this, right? Like we kind of know this. So I'm going to say... that maybe they met yesterday or they had maybe met once or twice in passing before.
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
But I'm thinking maybe Saturday was their first like time hanging. And as you could see, like it started out like Caitlin was in the back of the booth and then it was like, hey, right up here up front next to Taylor. Maybe they, you know, trying to stay warm, had a couple of drinks or whatever, just hanging out, just became close friends. And then they're hugging at the end of the game.
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
And really, you know, I like to say shout out to Brittany Mahomes, who just, you know, just delivered a baby. They just had another child, the Mahomes family. Congratulations. What a blessing. But I was seeing early Taylor and Britney vibes there between Caitlyn and Taylor. So hopefully Britney doesn't get out of the picture for having a child. That would be horrible.
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
And I hope, thoughts and prayers, that's the situation.
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
I still want to see if Taylor will stay with Kelsey if they lose. She's only known winning, and it's really bothering me because I don't really want the Chiefs to lose, especially considering who they're playing now in my allegiance. But at the same time, part of me wants to know if Taylor... Like, if Taylor's on the cusp of breaking up with... Just hypothetically.
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
I'm not reporting anything, please. If she's on the cusp of breaking up with him, like... It's a bad look if she waits till after they lose because it's like, well, you were just in it for the Super Bowls.
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
Well, she could be the villain in that story, especially if they make it to the Super Bowl again and lose the Super Bowl.
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
Did she make an album about it?
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GBF- Monday Hangover: American Coffee and Marcus Freeman's scent
Well, then she's the bad guy. Wow, imagine like a Taylor Swift heel turn. You know, like she becomes like NWO Hulk Hogan. Yeah. I don't think that our fans would. I don't think our fans would allow that to happen, though. You know, like she's going to be the wrestler that never goes bad, which like there's not a ton of them. Hey, Joe Mixon had 88 yards and a touchdown. Huh?
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George, you've done with this offense now for three years. Have you seen signs of growth, and how much more does this team still need to grow offensively? Yeah, I've seen signs of growth for sure. From the first year I've been here, just way more growth for sure. George, does that make you optimistic going forward? Uh, nah.
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Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
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Tatum wasn't even the MVP during the finals. I don't understand why they wouldn't trade a lesser player for a better player.
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Well, but a quarter zip is... Cozy.
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Yeah, I was told that happened. No, I said that the NFL caught up to what Sirianni was doing offensively. And for the first couple of weeks, it was looking all right. But then that but then that bye week came and they totally changed their identity. And yeah, I'll eat it. Kellen Moore and Sirianni, they figured something out, no doubt. They're completely different.
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Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
For a full season, it felt like he was incapable of moving on from the offense that he had under Steichen. No, credit to them. I was wrong.
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Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
No, I mean, yeah, no, I appreciate the opportunity to say I'm sorry, Philadelphia.
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Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
It was going on at the same time as the NASCAR race, but I saw the final third of it. My wife watched the entire thing. She said all the performances were great. She couldn't name her favorite one, really, quite honestly. Right. I went back and watched this Chaperone thing because I love that goddamn song.
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Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
Pink Tony Club is anthemic. It is a great song.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
More or less. It would be great if they hire one of the coordinators from one of the teams and the coordinator's like, I am so committed to the New Orleans Saints. I'm going to take over right now. You guys are going to have to find someone else to guide you through the Super Bowl because my heart now lies in New Orleans. Actually, you know what?
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
If the coordinator wins the Super Bowl, they can say that they brought a Super Bowl to New Orleans before they've even taken the job. Like, I know what it's like to win a Super Bowl in New Orleans, and it would actually be the truth. So I like this.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
That's going to be a good one with you and Funny Marco's two guys.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
so it's super bowl week we're we're headed towards new orleans kind of getting their staggered arrivals slowly trickling in stugas leaves after the show today we'll get in there he'll be there early tomorrow i leave early tomorrow you guys don't care about a trial sketch i don't know why i'm doing this but as one does week of the super bowl where we have a rematch to one of the uh one of the better super bowls as of late we are breaking down off air
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
the Las Vegas Raiders and what it is that they've done this off season and what it is that they have. And you know, it's a strange time to be doing that granted, but also we're going to have a week full of breaking down this game. So we want to talk Raiders. I don't see why we can't just talk some Raiders, you know, they bring in chip Kelly. They brought in Pete Carroll.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Tom Brady seems to be calling all the shots, which probably is going to be a disaster. But who knows? They still don't have a quarterback, but that's what their focus seems to be now headed into the draft. So a new day for the Las Vegas Raiders, Stugatz.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
I'm proud of you because in years past, when you said, what does that lead me to believe, you would have said Tom Brady's coming back to be the quarterback of the Raiders.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
I'm very surprised and proud of you for not going in that direction. So congratulations to Gots. Yep. To growth.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
big day forgot didn't you look at our little our little boy no i said brady's name on the front end billy's right he knows i never miss a brady opportunity especially when it's talking about brady coming back but brady's not coming back he's not coming back the broadcasting thing some people are saying wasn't great look if you ask me i thought he's been fine as a broadcaster hasn't been good hasn't been terrible he's gotten fine yeah he's gotten better yeah but like i
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
know why people care so much about the broadcasters and why they complain so much about the broadcasters like unless you're saying the wrong play or the wrong team scored or you're like completely confusing everything he's been fine enough like who care I honestly I don't even really think about it at times like I'll just tune into the game especially if I'm watching red zone and all of a sudden I hear his voice like yeah watch this game for five minutes didn't realize Brady was on it who cares right
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Well, no. Our jobs are some of the most important jobs in the world. They put us up there. Just below the armed services, obviously. Yep.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Even more or less with doctors and the likes. You know what I mean? Sure.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Armed services, teachers... And then like us and like maybe doctors, lawyers. And then like, I don't know the people that I can tell you who's at the bottom of the list. And like, you know what? I'm not going to tell you who's at the bottom of the list. I want to hear who's at the bottom of the list. I kind of want to hear the people that write parking tickets. They're they're down here.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
I'm sure they're nice people, but you friends have picked one of the absolute worst jobs. Also, Actually, never mind. Go on. Say it.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Say it to somebody. I got in a car accident, as you guys know, a little over a month ago. Yeah. And the driver was in his 90s. Mm-hmm.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
and uh and when they they filled out the report they didn't issue blame to me or him because i said like yeah i had a green turn arrow so i went and the guy just completely ran a red light right and like and drilled me and then uh and then so we go we go through all the insurance and his insurance is like well he was not at fault i'm like how on earth was he not at fault and they're like well a lot so i go i have to pay to buy the police report the police reports are like well
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Driver A, which was me, said he had a steady green arrow and driver B said he had a steady green light. So we don't know what happened. And then back and forth with the insurance and boom, I'm out now. The deductible, my insurance is going to go a ball because this 91 year old just either lied or.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Had no idea what color the light was while he's driving around in this giant pickup truck, just ramming into people. And I will say this, and this is a controversial stance. Okay. And God bless football to all. I will say this about the 91 year old. If he lied to that police officer. Yeah. Well, one, I've thought, how far do I want to push this? He's 91, right?
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
How much am I going to go above the deductible that I have to pay on a principled stance? Should I take him to small claims court? Should I take him to Judge Judy? Where can we go so that I can get the justice that I feel like I deserve? Because this is not something that's just going to cost me my deductible.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Again, and now going to have higher insurance for years to come because this man either didn't know where he was, what color the light was, or he lied. And I would say this. If I get to 91, there's different ways to look at this. If I get to 91, I am going to make sure to do everything on the straight and narrow to try to...
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
out undo any wrongs that i had done in my life so that i don't spend the rest of my life in hell so i'm trying to do so you're gonna spend your 90s atoning for your sins a life i'm trying to yeah so that i'm i'm i'm definitely not adding to the list that you know take me to the the great beyond where there's fire and i don't know if there's brimstone there but where the fire is you know what i mean like i'm not gonna be lying in my 90s and trying to punch my ticket to the
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Yeah, well, thanks for bringing it back to football because it is Super Bowl week.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
I did want to send somewhat of a lippy email back to the person that said this was denied and say, guys, you are the ones that are reckless here by insuring this man who should not be on the road. This should not be going on.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Listen, if your parents if your parents are still driving or like when I'm older, I think that's the I would get them a car like that, like a big SUV or something just to make sure. Like, let's make sure like me, mom, people are safe when they're driving around just in case. But also they're driving around tanks, which is not safe for anyone else involved. Sure. Yeah. Anyway, Super Bowl.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Oh, okay. Well, there you go. Thanks, guys. Don't listen next week. We just cut to the chase and see you the day after the Super Bowl to see if Stugas was right or not.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Yeah, I mean, it's nice. It's fan voting, so thank you to the fans because they're the reason that we won Sports Podcast Awards, American Football Podcast of the Year, which is very wordy, if I'm going to be honest with you. Yeah, it is. Hey, what are you going to do? We won a British award. Thank you, Brits.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
I think you keep mentioning funny Marco. I think that you should talk to your daughters to ask them what you should talk to funny Marco about. Like, this seems like someone that would be in their sphere that they could kind of help you with. Also, if you want a connection point, uh, Funny Marco, we ran into, didn't talk to, but we ran into at kickoff for the season this year.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
He was running around also the tailgates recording some stuff on videos. So if you want to have a connection point with Funny Marco, he was also there running around the tailgates doing some stuff. But he had like a bunch of handlers, so we couldn't even get within like arms distance of him to talk to him about anything.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
It was definitely not Bad Bunny that we had on. It was Lil Dicky. Oh, Lil Dicky. Lil Dicky.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Do me a favor. Don't ask your kids about Funny Marco for all the parties involved. Just head into that interview with the exact information that you have now. No more, no less. Don't look them up. Don't do anything. Just head into it exactly as you are. No prep? No prep. You don't need prep. I think the two of you can kind of get along and just kind of roll with it together, you know?
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
They don't call him unfunny, Marco.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
That we expected to win it? Yeah. No, I did not expect to win it this year at all. I was trying to sound more confident than I was. Yeah, we were up against Shannon. We were up against Mina. We were up against the Kelseys. We had a lot of stiff competition this year. I honestly was very surprised that we won because last year we didn't even play.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
That's Mikey. God bless football is presented by Smirnoff. We do game days. Please drink responsibly. The Smirnoff Company, New York, New York. Sad times to God. The season is coming to an end, as we've discussed. It is going to be an exciting week, hopefully, and hopefully an exciting Super Bowl. But I can't help. And I know that you're probably the same as I am.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
I can't help but start to think towards next season already, even though this season is not officially done. There's only one game left. So I feel like the scrambling is going to start soon to start previewing next season. We had the senior bowl. We have the combine coming up. We have the draft. It's right around the corner.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
I don't know if you're doing big, big boards this year for the draft, but yeah,
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Green Bay-ish. I think that I heard, and this is just speculation, so it will not be Green Bay. But I think, I think... I think we may be going to Nashville since they have the number one pick in the draft.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
To do a draft show. I think. I don't think that's finalized. I think still in the works location TBD, but I think the last we heard that was the location, which will be very, very exciting for the first pick. And then after that, we'll kind of be like, so we're in Nashville and the... Yeah. The Packers have selected, and then it's like, okay, no one cares. They already got their number one pick.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Interesting. But if it's not, then they were on the record saying this is a generational tie. It doesn't matter. It's a big risk.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
I mean... That would be really funny. Honestly, that would be hilarious. It's freaking Nashville. They trade the pick.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
But thank you again to all the fans who voted for us because it's a fan voting award. So you guys are really the ones that helped us win this. So thank you guys.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Here we are at this honky-tonk and, you know, didn't go as planned.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Yeah, come on. Come on, man. What are you doing?
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Listen, you want to go to Green Bay so bad, let's use some PTO on that, friend. You know what I mean? Let's not take an entire crew of people to Green Bay in the middle of April.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Oh. OK, so you're ahead of the game. I was going to say we should start looking forward, but you've already created your power ranking. So you're ahead of us trying to get ahead of it.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
yep uh billy we're headed out to new orleans uh it is hopefully for you i am headed out to new orleans uh billy's not feeling well are you okay billy i'm worried about you man um i i'll be fine i guess we have to like 24 hours to get through this and then and hop on a bird and then once i'm on the once i land we'll power through right once i land if i have to be on radio row
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Yeah, sure. Let's do the top five headed into next year.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Well, let me let me ask you something just for clarification purposes. Yes. These power rankings are headed into the season. Correct. Because we don't we don't know the we we don't know.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
the schedules yet we know who the teams will play but we don't know where and when yeah i guess we know the where but we don't know where yeah we don't know the when so this is headed into the season your power ranking this is after the draft everything you've accounted for all of that this is the team's post-draft it's kickoff this thursday yeah boom these are your power rankings yes these are my four months early or whatever it is more than that like eight months early
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Okay. Yeah. All right. You ready? Yes.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Well, and Cliff Kingsbury opted not to leave for a head coaching job. He's staying put. He wants to ride with Jaden, so we'll see if that works out for Cliff. It won't, but we'll see if that works out for Cliff. Not because of Jaden, by the way, just because it never works out for old Cliff.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Oh, wow. Yeah, you like that.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Wow. You can tell those people that in person when you go by yourself to cover the draft there.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Yeah. Yeah. Who are you going to put there? I mean, I know who you're going to put there, I think. Who do you think I'm going to put there? Let's see how well you guys know me. Well, I mean, the thing is, you know who I actually think you're going to end up putting there is the Chiefs. Because you think that I think you're going to put the Eagles there. Right.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
So then you would put the Chiefs there just to kind of confuse the situation. And now you're rethinking that because you didn't lock this in anywhere. So now you could still be going back and forth.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
You seem to be erasing there, too. I saw you scratch something out. I was just adding. We know it's adding. There's only one team. We know it's not the Lions. We know it's not the Vikings. You already told us that. We know it's not going to be like the 49ers or anyone like that. No, no. So it's going to be either the Eagles or the Chiefs.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
Well, this is also, he's telling us this as if it's the Monday leading into kickoff. So he already knows all of those results. I will say, though.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
What's wrong? They may have a chance. They may have a chance. It's very different than number one on the power rankings. They may have a chance. It's like a five maybe on your list. Not one.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
with some performance enhancers, so be it. I'll do that.
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GBF- Super Week: 91 Year Old Drivers
You should copyright four-peat right now.
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I mean, that guy probably has one in Buffalo. Yeah. Just call like two, two, two, two, two, two, two. You'll get a hold of him. He has all the phone numbers. Yeah, he's got all the phone numbers.
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He copyrighted it. I mean, the NFC had a three-peat yesterday in the Pro Bowl games. However, I don't think anyone is making NFC three-peat shirts, so I don't think that Pat's going to make money off of the NFC's Pro Bowl game three-peat. Right. But some are saying...
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maybe maybe pat's greatest move ever some are saying not me i wouldn't dare right i mean basketball legend look at all the teams you put together championship coach some are saying best thing you ever did was copyright three repeat some said that right right got it so not getting lebron james or Some are saying.
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I mean, others would say maybe if we weren't counting all of our future earnings from 3P, maybe we could have inquired about Luca down here, get rid of Jimmy Butler, the two birds with one stone situation, get rid of one disgruntled superstar, bring in another superstar who you could sign up to a long extension, maybe fix the trajectory of your organization. But not me. I wouldn't say that.
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They're going to start playing now, friends. What do you mean? All of a sudden, all the ailments are going to be fixed up real quick.
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You could almost count that as lunch. 5.15 is, yeah, that's late lunch.
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I mean, you got something. You're coming back on Monday, the day after the Super Bowl.
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Who scheduled who scheduled the game on Sunday? What is this?
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Super Bowl Sunday. I mean, a little respect by the planning committee here. What time is that game at?
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You know, I wonder if that would be a bad experience. I'll tell you this much. I will admit this. I was on a plane yesterday and checked in on the Pro Bowl games. I was going to watch the Pro Bowl games to be ready for today's massive recap of the Pro Bowl games where we can give our winners and losers presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly.
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I watched the tug of war and watched two battles in the tug of war. I saw Peyton telling his team, hey, if we win the tug of war, we're right back in this. And I said, you know what? This isn't for me. Pro Bowl games, I don't think are my thing.
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The purity of the game. I think that's what it was, is no one loves football more than me. And I think that's what happened is I was like, this... This is not football. When Jackson Smith and Jigba's out there and he's throwing multiple interceptions, we're good. Yeah. You know what? No need. I like the scoring. We scored like 140 points almost combined between the two teams. Mm-hmm.
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What are we doing? What are we actually doing this for at this point?
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You never know. Emergency. After all those interceptions. Yeah.
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Yeah, I think it should be. I think it should be nice.
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This back to back trips thing, though, was not a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. And something seems to be going around. Right.
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I was in Georgia for the weekend. I was there Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Yesterday we did a little Georgia aquarium action. Flew back, got in at night, and my family was sick the entire weekend. I was doing well. I thought I had dodged it all. I mean, I thought I would get this in New Orleans, and then lo and behold, it found me. So I'll bring it up to you in New Orleans. Don't worry.
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I'll give you a gift that keeps on giving. Mike, do you want some of this? I'm good.
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It fits. I was thinking if there's an outbreak and I'm patient, zero. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Now, I theoretically wouldn't get any of the players sick because we're not going to run into any of the ones that's playing in the game, more than likely.
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Wow. You know what I was thinking the other day? What? I'm glad that we have this forum to discuss this. Michael Jordan...
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is praised for the flu game right yeah everyone's michael jim gutsy performance wow what a guy the flu game look at him he was there and he came out and yeah you know he was you know he's on his deathbed essentially and he played a game great game whatever right some people question whether or not he actually had the flu but anyway go ahead
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Well, the point is, like, I feel like if Michael Jordan tried to pull that in this year, the year of our Lord 2025, he would be like severely reprimanded. Like there's none of this come to come to work this horribly sick that you're going to get everyone else sick business going on. You know what I mean? Like, I don't I don't think the flu game would be as well received now.
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I think he'd be looked at as a very selfish person.
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Well, not Phil. Someone else. Like someone in HR. I don't know if there's like HR on like NBA teams, but like someone in HR would be like, hold your horses, fella. You're not coming in like that.
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This is God bless football.
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I mean... That would be great. I mean, people are clamoring for that. Yes. You know? I don't think Andy's involved in that, but I do think that maybe the media is around it. They're like, well, this is a very selfish movie. Could have gotten so many people sick. And think of all the hundreds of millions of people watching at home and what an example that's setting. And what if we're able to...
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past germs through the television and he's gotten everybody else sick and it was just you know just one of those things uh before we go back to football real quick for a second yeah so the match just gave luca to the lakers huh like That's just how the NBA works now.
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You just give someone your best player because LeBron's on your team and you're trying to, like, I guess maybe win him one on the way out, maybe boost some NBA ratings. Like, how did that just happen? They've been talking for weeks behind the scenes and then all of a sudden no one knew about this and he's just a Laker. Like, that's crazy.
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Yeah, I mean, it had to be Pro Bowl weekend.
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Had to be that weekend. Yeah.
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You know what? Winners and losers presented by Spirinoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly. Winners, the Lakers. Losers, the GM. of the Mavericks because I was going to say no one will ever forget this guy, but I don't even remember his name. No one will remember him, but also he's a rare guy. I never knew him.
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I was going to say he's the rare guy that no one will ever remember and no one will never forget at the same time. Who is he? So I saw this thing, and I'm wondering how real it is, because you never know with the internet. So I saw this thing that was saying, I guess he was involved in the negotiations with Steph Curry when Steph was deciding between Under Armour and Nike.
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And those negotiations went terribly, and he has denied some of the allegations in said presentation. But in the presentation... Steph was called by the wrong name. He had a slide that had Kevin Durant's name on it. And when they did call him his name, they pronounced it wrong. And they were offering significantly less than Under Armour and refused to match the money on Under Armour.
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So those negotiations obviously did not go well for Nike. And Steph never signed with Nike. And then he went on to be... The face of Under Armour. So this GM was somewhere in that whole situation back in the day. And that's where we had seen his name previous to this situation.
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I should have gone with Tank.
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I do like, before we get back to football, it is Super Bowl week. I don't know why we're doing this. And it's 100% my fault. Yeah, no, it's 100% my fault.
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I'll be watching the game with room service in my hotel room. Mike and I will have to do the show Monday in New Orleans, and then we'll fly home.
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No, no, no, no. I will be in my hotel room either with my son Mike or alone with room service. And enjoying the commercials, enjoying the game, enjoying laying down and watching the game.
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Yeah, pitching products, going to different events, doing the show every day, all week. As you well know, it's a long week. Again, I'm not complaining. I get to go cover the Super Bowl, but yeah, it's a long week.
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I could. My only problem with what he said was the room service. Like, Mike, New Orleans is a food town. Let's not just do room service.
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I will be there seven days previous to the Super Bowl. I will get my fill of New Orleans food. I will get my fill. Every single day, multiple times a day of New Orleans food. By the time Sunday rolls around, I'll be like the person at the end of a 10-day cruise who has gained 20 pounds and is trying to get back to some normalcy.
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It has to be up there, right? As far as food city and as far as hosting a big event, it's right at number one. Because again, when the media or we all descend on an event, it's not about the event. You know this, Stu. It's about how does it affect us? How does it affect our week? Do we have to get in a car? Can we walk? How convenient is where we have to go? And New Orleans is all walkable.
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You don't have to get, I mean, I'm, I'm staying in a hotel that's connected to the convention center. So every day I just walk down a hallway, radio row, do the show. And I'm about a 15, 20 minute walk to the quarter to go get all the food that I want to the events that I'm going to go to. It is so convenient. That's why it's a top the list and the food is out of this world.
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Now listen, Vegas you could walk. Vegas I was fine with because I walked to a lot, especially you could walk to the game, which is fantastic. That's one of the great things. And, you know, there's a lot to do in Vegas, obviously. It's different in New Orleans. The food is second to none. You can find so many variations of food.
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And with the French Quarter, you can go to an established place like Brennan's, which everybody's going to try and go to. Or for me, man, I like little holes in the wall, little dive places where you can just sit and have a beer or two. and have some nice gumbo or something, you know, and call it a day. You know, I'm past the point of staying out late.
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I used to do that when I first went to Super Bowls. I'd go out and meet guys I played with or against and go to the different parties and wake up and do the show. Man, I'm so past that. I'll go out for an early dinner unless I have an event I have to go to, and I'll be in bed.
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I love it. Mike, I'm sick of dancing around this thing. Let's just go right to it. I need a Mount Rushmore of food cities in America for you, and I want you to take out the event part of it. Doesn't matter.
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Philly's up there. New Orleans is certainly up there. The Carolinas with the barbecue is up there as well.
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Anywhere in the Midwest with a good steak, right? I'm a big steak and potatoes guy. Good steak. I have to be somewhere where there's like water to get like seafood. I'm not going to be in the Midwest and, you know, order, you know, fish, even though I'm sure there are places that fly it in and it's really good.
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So I'm more by region of food, barbecue food, steak and potatoes and seafood type of a deal.
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Kansas City is definitely up there. When I played, it's the best smelling stadium there is. And when I played there, when we used to leave and go to our buses, there used to be people that would give us barbecue. which was phenomenal. I mean, you got to get on the bus with barbecue. So that's an awesome stadium, yeah.
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I don't know about smelling, but the worst to get into and out of is a buffalo. It's tough to get in and out of, and obviously the weather can be awful as well. So that's probably a place that I'm not all that hyped up to go, even though it's a great team to go watch play. It's just, it's tough to get in and out of.
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No, I appreciate the greatness because in this day and age of football where a team can turn over so quickly. They've kept their core together, and they've filled in spots every year, and they continue to win. So I'm one of those that appreciates greatness.
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I get it when people say they want something different than Michael Jordan winning a title, than Tiger Woods winning a tournament, than Golden State winning an NBA championship. I get people getting fatigued and, A, wanting their team there instead of that person or that team that's winning it. But I certainly appreciate the greatness. And...
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I don't think, and he gets talked about a lot, but I don't think Andy Reid gets talked about enough. We talk about Mahomes. He's a Hall of Famer already. Travis Kelsey, a Hall of Famer. What the Chiefs are doing. But Andy Reid, not Bill Belichick. Andy Reid is going to end up the all-time winning of playoff games. He's only a couple away from Belichick. He's going to blow by him in that.
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And I think he's at 301 and Shula's at 347. That's four years of 12-win years. which I think he can do. So I think it's Andy Reid that's going to hold all the victory records as far as head coaches are concerned. I don't know if he'll equal Belichick in Super Bowls, but I think he'll pass him in postseason wins and pass Don Shula in wins.
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Andy Reid is going to go down, already should go down as one of the great coaches of all time.
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Wow, that's a, I mean, listen, you have to go by results, right? And I mean, that would be a pretty good stamp on his resume. I don't know if anybody will ever consider him that, but he can hold up the sheet that said, look what I've done. I mean, he'll have that on his side.
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But if he loses, he's fired, right? Yeah.
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I mean, is it unreal? I mean, how many games into the season this year we were talking about his longevity being an Eagles coach? And even the last game when Jalen Hurts says, you know, Nick finally took the straight jacket off me, and Nick says, oh, he was just joking around. No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't joking around. Nope. I mean, this is a team.
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But listen, Jalen not happy with the passing game. Listen to what Pat Mahomes said after they won the Super Bowl back-to-back. He said he wasn't satisfied with the way the offense played, right? That the defense was playing better and he wanted that offense to get back to the powerful offense. I get it from a quarterback standpoint. You want to be a high-flying offense.
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But this is an Eagle offense that's built around the offensive line in Saquon Barkley.
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Yeah, yeah. And listen, like I picked Buffalo against Kansas City, I'm going to pick Philadelphia. against Kansas City. I think Philly is overall the better team, save for, like you said, the coach, which the play calls that Andy Reid pulls out, the roll right to get a first down on the last drive, and then that third and seventh
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where he had motioned trips to the left so Pat Mahomes could tell it was man coverage. Then all three receivers ran crossing routes, and Samaje Pirine ran out to the left, and the man covering him just got caught up in a six-person wash. And Pirine was wide open to catch the ball and run for the first down. That's just incredible by Andy. But I just, man, I like the Eagles.
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What a great game it was the last time, except for as a former defensive player, seeing a 38-35 game was a little rough, even though it was fun to cover, that's for sure. But I like the Eagles in this one.
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I mean, wow. I mean, it really is something else. I mean, but Spagnuolo's already a D coordinator with the most Super Bowl rings. He can add a fifth. He can add a fifth as a D coordinator. And I forgot which defender. Was it Chris Jones? On Kansas City, you said as long as nobody makes him a head coach, that means we still keep winning. Yes. It's truly amazing.
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You know how it is. I'm not confident at all.
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It has nothing to do with that. His friend is Andy Reid.
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It's amazing how people tell other, when Jerry Rice wasn't going to be with the 49ers, don't go to another team, retire. Tim Brown, not with the Raiders, don't go to another team, retire. How the hell do you tell people to retire if they still want to A, coach, or B, play, if they still have the want to to do the work in the offseason? Because that's why players retire.
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They don't want to do what's necessary from February to August to prepare for the season. They just don't want to do it, and they know they have to be prepared. But if you're willing to put in the work, why the hell wouldn't it? Look at Pete Carroll. He's 74. Andy Reid's 66. Andy Reid has more than a few years left in coaching, as long as he wants to. Same with Travis Kelsey.
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I mean, to me, it's ridiculous to try and force somebody to retire if they still have the want to to do it.
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I mean, it's just a run that you stay on. Again, the core stays together. You fill in the ancillary spots behind that, and you just keep winning. You ride this for as long as you can, absolutely.
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I don't feel bad for professional athletes in the sense, you know, oh, wow. He is like those that got caught up in the Tiger Woods era, those that got caught up in the Michael Jordan era. It happens, right? You can be great, but if you get caught up in the wrong era – There's not a lot that you can do because Josh Allen has played well.
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He didn't turn the ball over this year like he has in the past. You literally have to keep the ball out of Pat Mahomes' hand on the last drive. whether it's A, to score points, or B, get a first down to run the clock out. Because you know Andy Reid is going to go for it. Andy Reid isn't going to run the ball three times and punt. Andy Reid is going to try and keep possession of the ball
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Because that's the way Andy Reid works. And you have a quarterback in Pat Mahomes that can get it done. So, no, I don't feel bad. I mean, I don't. You just got caught in the wrong air. Not to say that it can't happen next year for Josh. But, man, it's got to be mentally tough. physically guys are all prepared to play.
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But mentally, you just have to wonder when you get into the playoffs against Kansas City, it's like, okay, what happens this year? How do we lose this year? What goes on this year? It's just got to be brutal.
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No, I mean, again, I don't think so. I don't think so. This is like, I remember Marty Schottenheimer took the Browns to a couple of AFC championship games and got fired.
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It's like you were going to fire Ryan Day. And again, if there wasn't a 12-team playoff, Ryan Day probably would have got fired because he lost four times in a row to Michigan.
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But he ends up winning a national championship. It just seems ludicrous to think that you would fire Ryan Day over one game. Right. Just like, you know, Sean McDermott is successful. Who are you going to hire that you say, yeah, that person is going to get us over the hump?
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Listen, Spags is going to get a chance to be a head coach again. I would really believe, but again, You don't know how somebody who's been a lifer coordinator is going to be as a head coach, right? You just don't know.
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Exactly. I mean, you had a stint, obviously, as a head coach. I get it with what the Rams from 2009 to 2011, I think it was. So you have a bit of history there. But I do think it would be stunning, I guess I would say, if he doesn't get a shot again. If, in fact, he wants a shot again and he's, what, 65 years old. So who knows? I don't know what's on his mind.
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No, no. In Miami, it was a blowout. It wasn't even a game. This was a game. I mean, Notre Dame started out great. Then, obviously, Ohio State went on an incredible run. And then Notre Dame made it a one-score game in the fourth quarter, made it somewhat exciting. So, no, that was only because it was just an absolute destruction in Miami. So, no, I'd still go to Mercedes-Benz in Atlanta for sure.
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The issue with me and Notre Dame is all the players they're losing. A couple of wide receivers in the portal, three offensive linemen, their defensive coordinator, Al Golden, going to the Bengals. Now, they did sign Chris Ashe, who has been a D coordinator for more than a few big-time teams. But their GM... Obviously, every team has a GM now went from Notre Dame to USC, so they need a new GM.
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So that's what happens when you're successful. You get poached, and Notre Dame certainly got poached.
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Oh, yeah. I mean, his former team isn't. He really can't lose. If his former team wins, he's happy. But I think he's more happy if his brother wins.
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I don't know if his body would have held up. I mean, that's the one he can always lean on. I don't know if my body would have would have held up because, yeah, Cam Juergens comes in as an is a Pro Bowl center. I mean, it's almost like they didn't miss a beat. They got obviously younger at the position.
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Yeah, I could see that being one year removed, thinking about I could have been on another team, but he's got a ring too, I think. So if he never got a ring, I think it would bug to me even more.
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Well, I think my point is he's happy either way. If the Eagles win, it's his former team winning. If the Chiefs win, it's his brother winning. To your point, yes, I do think he should be, and he can root for who he wants. He's his own man. But I would be rooting for my brother at this point. Blood is thicker than the team I played for.
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Yes. Oh, I always said if Mike or Jake went to a different school, I would cheer for that school proudly. I mean, if it was where they wanted to go and where they wanted to be, I would be happy. It's my kids over my school for sure.
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That'd be an issue. Yeah. Thanks for bringing that up.
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That's where they're out of the will.
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It culminates in a flag football game.
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Well, there's diabetes involved again.
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But it's actually to help with diabetes.
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No, but there's a tug of war. There's a quarterback contest that has a trivia component to it.
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Well, I mean, it's the timing. Like the last blitz that he had on Josh Allen.
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Right? I mean, he was kind of saving that. And it's something you can do on the defensive side. You can save stuff. Not as much on the offensive side. But the defensive side, you can save stuff. And he gave Josh Allen a zone look. Right? Gave him a safety, a deep zone look. Right. And he kind of had it a little bit overloaded to Josh's left. So Josh slid left. He had the line slide left.
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And sure enough, the cornerback blitzes from Josh's right. And he and Karloftis come free and force, you know, the Hail Mary, which, by the way, I mean, should have been caught. Right. Should have been caught. But...
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regardless he he and and that's what you see today in blitzes you either overload with more guys rushing than offensive linemen and and running backs to block or you try and confuse to where you're not bringing more rushers than the offense has to block but you fooled them into calling the wrong protection and you have free rushers and that's exactly what spagnuolo did
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He confused them, called the protection to slide left, and what you have to have is players who can disguise because you'll see before a play a quarterback give a hard count or in college they'll clap their hands thinking that's going to go to try and have the defense give up what they're going to do, right? Have a guy step out of position. Oh, he's coming. He's backing off.
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So try and give them a read. Give credit to the players on Kansas City for disguising, for not giving it up, for that cornerback not showing that he was going to blitz until the ball was snapped. So it's a combination of trying to fool the offense and then having your disguised guys not give away what they're going to do.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
Yeah. Yes. The quarterback has 30 seconds to throw at targets, but gets 10 seconds added if one of his teammates, now actual teammates, so like CJ Stroud and Nico Collins are doing it. I know that for the AFC.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
You know, it's a storyline either way, right?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
Oh, definitely. We'll gain weight together all.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
I think there's one person who would be upset if we don't. Well, there is definitely... But we don't really care about upsetting that person.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
So if Nico Collins gets something right in the trivia, he gets 10 more seconds.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
Here's my problem with the square game. Everybody that asks me to do it, the squares are like $2,000 each. And I'm like, I don't... They're like, yeah, my buddy's putting together one at a bar, and you want to go have these on a square for $2,000. Who are you friends with? Who are you friends with? I rolled deep.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
I was like, I'll give you $5, and that'll get me in on a square.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
Well, I get asked to do them. I've never once participated in one of them. They just all assume that I would be in because I do like to throw a few shekels on a game. I mean, a dozen prop bets in a Super Bowl, that's my gravy right there. A dozen $10 bets a time.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
In my field day, it was red versus blue, and purple always won.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
And it was like Michigan. It was Michigan, Iowa. It was the under half a point for Iowa.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
And then it hit, but somebody didn't actually place the bet.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
You know, you pay the $2,000 beforehand. So, like, there's no kneecaps coming. I would have to break kneecaps if I don't get the money afterwards.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
And I'm like, fifth alternate for trivia? Russell Wilson is going. Russell Wilson is playing.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
A little good on Fuentes' part is making it $10, because if he made it $50, everyone would have been like, no, I would have never agreed to that.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
Josh Allen is not going to the Pro Bowl, and by the time they got down to the alternate, I believe Russell Wilson is going.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
I mean, that's, I'm, I'm, well, I gotta, I gotta go sign my name in the, in the box.
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GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
I actually go sign my name in the box.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
Billy, now what you do is you make up a whole bunch of names except for like two people who you get to give you $2,000. And you walk away with $4,000. Hey, Jim S. won.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
From 1 in 100, you're taking all that money from K-Funk, and I'm all for it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
You send him the picture of the boxes, and there's two K-Funk boxes, and the rest say Mojo.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
How many jobs did the NFL save in their budget by downgrading from Hawaii to Orlando? Like you don't have to buy round trip airfare or nothing for any of that stuff. Now, guess what guys, everybody's going to keep their job, but you're not going to Hawaii. You're going to Orlando.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
I love that the foundation of your argument is that a bunch of NFL pro bowlers are afraid to tell their mother-in-laws no.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
Oh, I get it. I get it. I totally understand. Like, I picture, like, scary dude from the Hawaii, James Harrison being like, No, I can't tell my mom.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
Because it's going to take – Yes, she does need to sit first class.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
Guys, I'm the third alternate for you if you need someone else to fill in.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
Something touched the ground that doesn't touch.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme
No, I'd rather stay home. I'd rather stay home. Thank you. I'm good. If this was a regular season game, Billy might be questionable, but Super Bowl, you play through it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
My job was to keep Dan comfortable because a comfortable Dan gave us the best possible content. The job is Dan. The job is Dan. I am talent producing first and foremost. And the best way to produce my talent is to make sure that the grounds are most fertile around him for creativity and simple execution.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Because I know that one simple mistake, especially on the TV side, can really undo a good show. So making sure that we're clean. Or a good career. Yeah, yes.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Well, complaints did come because, keep in mind, we replaced Colin Cowherd and when you move to middays, in our afternoon experience with ESPN, we'd hear from affiliates, we'd get feedback, but now when you're in
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
a spot of the radio day part where you get way more clearance you get a lot more opinions from program directors of course and dan wasn't really on these affiliate calls we'd only bring them into the more important ones but quarterly i'd get briefed on how our radio show is doing terrestrially uh there were a lot of good stories there like wow our show randomly is huge in the carolinas and there were unfortunate stories like look while we were middays here
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
and struggled enough with how do we establish a zig? We're not running counterculture to a full day's worth of coverage. We were the morning show out in L.A., and L.A. was a huge affiliate for ESPN. And you would have thought because Miami is similar to L.A. in a lot of ways, our show would have taken off there. It didn't. They hated us. The station hated us.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
The fans hated us because they wanted to hear their Lakers talk. They wanted to hear their USC Trojan talk. Collin was always very good about forcing the issue when it came to the Los Angeles market. We were just kind of doing our own thing and it really blew up in our face when it came to L.A.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
We are. Digitally, yes. And there were really good stories when it came to the radio ratings in New York. But you're always going to be compared to Mike Francesa there.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
No, and that's why we were off, because we didn't do the stuff that Colin was so good at being able to kind of ham it up. I also didn't care, though. No, you didn't care, but Mike and I had discussions. Which we could have done with you giving more of a shit.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Dan's an artist. The only market he's ever cared about catering to is Miami. And at that point, it had been pretty successful going about his work that way. It had proved to be a winner, so... I don't blame him. He would have made my life a little bit easier. And sometimes it's pride swallowing knowing that, ah man, I thought for sure we'd work in LA, but we didn't.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Another aspect of Dan's workflow that we probably took for granted was right before we went to mid days, Dan was as locked in on sports as he's ever been in his life. Super sharp because why? He's taping Highly Questionable before the show. So he's coming out, he's already testing takes and he's fully informed. He's getting research packets. Back then I also used to write for Highly Questionable.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
So he came in super sharp. Now his work day is totally flipped and he's doing the radio show and he's not getting that prep. He's not getting the research. He hasn't been able to see how other people dissect stories. So I'm curious, did you also miscalculate having to do this before Highly Questionable as opposed to after?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
We found a way to rage against the machine while inside the machine and for no one on the outside to pick apart that hypocrisy. Right. Because everybody knew the dynamic. We didn't fit. The salespeople certainly knew it. Dan still is not doing reads. Dan will occasionally be the talent that'll say the worst possible thing ever. That's also a learning moment for me.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
meeting was fun yeah that was that was one of the the few times that dan was i love a good radio sales meeting i had to go to that this is because i said such bad things about Again, I was trying to protect you and you didn't even see it. Predators. Hey! Dan, I'm like... What are you doing? Dan, what are you doing, dude?
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I'm trying to protect you from even naming it and you're over there calling him Predators. I'm trying to get him on the air. I mean... Bleep all of it. Just bleep it all.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
This is a perfect example of the type of talent that he is. You're right, Mike. I'm literally trying to push him away from it. This is it. And he says the worst fucking thing possible. It's a goddamn headache every time. There were plenty of things that I miss about this era, though, too, which is, number one, we moved to a different day part.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Our commercials got longer, and while that was frustrating, man, do I miss being able to create content within the breaks. Yes. I really miss something organically happening in the back during the break that we're just laughing through, Dan picking up on it and starting a segment with that stuff. Something that's kind of been missing from the show ever since.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I don't think there's anything I miss more than that from the eight-minute commercial break.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
but also in a loud way and dan was writing him down and i knew he would come back from commercial break with what it was you and i were just constantly workshopping that's also how like we would play really well received rejoined music we had our rejoins and then song and i would be very thoughtful with how i do it often sending subliminal on messages with the set list for the day.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
But I would play a song and then play with playing a sound in the BPMs in between. Show within the show. Making remixes and I would use that time to see like if this would work and we'd go live and we'd do that because it worked with our bullpen essentially. I really miss that stuff. It really brought a lot of creativity.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Yeah, you guys are bad actors.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
One of my proudest things is that you guys would just stroll into the studio. We turn the mics on and we'd go. Anytime we brought in a different guest host, their head would be spinning at the pace that we'd operate. But we prepared a lot. because our show could go anywhere. And I would often tell people, how do you prepare for a show that can go anywhere?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
You gotta be prepared for anything and everything. And that's loads of pre-production, that's loads of production in show. And production can mean many things. It can mean a bit of imaging, or it can mean, hey, let's talk about this process right here. Why did that go wrong? How do we make it better?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
The communication is constant, ever evolving, 24 seven, everything is feedback, everything is production.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
A huge, massive booklet that the baton was passed throughout the years. I took a lot of pride in the show sheet. Roy did the show sheet. You would get mad at us at times because we wouldn't look at it, right? We wouldn't read it. We killed so many trees. I'm telling you.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
It was much thicker than Sagat's personal record book. Yes. And you guys insisted. I remember there was one time that I'm like, all right, we're going to go largely digital with this to save some paper. And you guys hated it. And my resentment was such. I'm like, you guys don't read the hard copies, but you insist on this. But again, talent comes first. Talent's comfort comes first.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
that's what we were communicating his computer to mine you had your creature comforts and you were married to that and that's fine and it good producers fall in line do you agree with dan if we didn't get to most of the stuff on the show sheet or in his head we had a good show that's a good show that's always a great show like oh damn we didn't get around to that oh damn we didn't do this produce bit oh damn we didn't cover that we had good stuff there it's always the hallmark of a good show so we're humming
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
We're doing good. We're clicking on all cylinders. We're navigating Dan's amazing proclivity to step into it, especially with sponsors. But it's all fine. In large part due to, and this part can't be ignored, John Skipper is president at ESPN. And I want the listener to keep all of this in mind. And I want Dan and Sue to keep this in mind because things start happening.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
The world starts changing around this era. It creeps in with the Colin Kaepernick stuff. The lines between politics and sports become really blurred. Probably the greatest example of that over the course of our time at ESPN. There were constant landmines around that. And then Trump's candidacy. Keep in mind, we had Donald Trump on the show several times.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Oftentimes, Dan was begging for him to run for president.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
But we have no idea how the GOP is going to evolve, how Trump becomes this massive cult of personality. But the seeds are there. Initially, Dan's rooting for all the chaos. But I'm curious, Colin Kaepernick. Regret that or not?
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
In 2015, there was like an exchange like, oh, please, you have to run. Donald, please run. I love you guys. I listen to your show all the time. You guys are the best. You're the best. That's a real thing. That's all I wanted to hear. Less than 10 years ago. Less than 10 years ago, Dan and Donald Trump were showering each other with praise. But I'm curious, Colin Kaepernick for me. goes LeBron.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
That's an amazing sentence. It is.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
You have to. Don! Don, you have to. We probably should have kept going with that. We'd be in the cabinet for sure.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
You guys would definitely have a cabinet position right now. I'd be the vice president. Honestly, I think we could get you approved right now. Lisa, there are problems. Oh, damn it. I got to stick to sports real quick. Colin Kaepernick, for me, is a top five story in the history of this show.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
LeBron, all the Patriots stuff with Tom Brady being the football player of his generation with the coach of his generation. And also on top of that, you dashed scandal on top of it. That was a great story. But Colin Kaepernick... This was a story that probably challenged you guys in ways that you'd never been challenged before in front of microphones.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
And I'm very curious your approach to this, how our show probably talked about it more than any other show because it was dangerous. It was almost self-governed over at ESPN. It wasn't so much people telling us not to do this. There was a lot of talent that just tried to punt on it altogether.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Which for you, your process pivots a little bit because the start of the show was you were a traditional sports guy. You had different takes on Colin Kaepernick. You and Dan were pretty much aligned from the get-go. So it wasn't a push and pull type of thing. You might have spoken for Joe Sportsfan occasionally, but you were really there to get us out.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
And we've learned this new character comedically, how we inject you into these segments. And I often use it as a device. Dan, more often than not, probably saw it coming, whether it's breaking NFL news. We use you often to get us out of places where we kept getting too entrenched that were a little dicey for us professionally.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
He was preparing for it though, because Dan was actually for the first time talking about one of these crazy scenarios that are actually playing out. Dan did several shows on what if Peyton Manning were a Klansman? Yes. For fun. Like we just made that hypothetical just because he liked the challenge. He would have started. It was so good.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Remember the ESPN, the magazine, what if Michael Vick were white and how poorly that went, too. That was probably the second craziest Colts hypothetical that we had behind. How much do you think a shopping cart with a mannequin arm attached to it, how many yards do you think it would get in a season?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Maybe not if Peyton got it right in the basket. Look, we'll do this show again. I think it would have Mo Alleycox-like production. Really? Instead of screaming Mo Alleycox would be shopping cart with a mannequin arm.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
It would be plus 800 every day versus score a touchdown. We take it every Sunday.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Do you guys remember how we started talking about Kaepernick and this whole story around him? Because many people might forget the Miami ties to how this whole thing blew up. Kaepernick started doing this. He initially wasn't even kneeling. He was just sitting down. Then he famously consulted the teammate who had served, said, go ahead and take a knee that's a little bit more respectful.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
No one really picked up on it. There were whispers of this. Then he came down to Miami and on the heels of the pig socks, the police officers depicted as pigs.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Yes. And now you have this messenger trying to have a take that you support. A player's right to speak their mind and speak out against injustice. But also, Dan, you mentioned Cuban exile. Now, it appears, I know Armando Salguero had a huge, very passionate piece at that time.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
You have the message coming from a player that is wearing a Fidel Castro shirt, almost co-signing on the entire Castro experience. How did you handle that?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
community stops listening the second he puts on the Castro shirt. Correct.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I think initially we also criticized him because it was a misstep. Of course. He was free to do it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
It took you a while, but you kind of got beers during it. You found your angle there. Me, I'm constantly getting feedback from ESPN, from Liam or Babysitter. What are the talking points? How do I know I've gone too far? What do I say that it's not necessarily an opposition, but have you considered?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I didn't like my allies at that time, but I'm like, you know, Dan, the flag means a lot to a lot of different people. And, you know, like I was just trying to be devil's advocate.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
crib to distract it or something because mike is producing the show but he's not telling me how he's producing the show he's just doing the kinds of things that run me into different directions sometimes it would be with a different opinion have you considered oftentimes though it would be with imaging or feeding sugats aqua yeah like just giving him something that would slightly distract you having rick springfield bomb in out of nowhere and deliver his favorite colors or you know doing something that was pre-produced we had all sorts we had layers
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Magic creative content was kind of born out of this stuff. It was all creative ways.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
What gave it away, Dan? Well, it eventually became canon that it was his sole reason for existing was just to get Dan off of political conversation. I missed that crate. Oh, dude.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Cut to John Skipper in his own voice saying, yeah, that's exactly right. I think throughout all of this, part of the reason why you're not feeling it, and we got to a point later on at ESPN where that level of protection, it would just go over my head and they would go direct to you.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
And the reason why they weren't really going direct to you wasn't because I was particularly effective in keeping them away. I was the only person that they could talk to because John Skipper had handpicked you. And with that came a lot of protection, protection that we would later find out we would sorely miss.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
In your defense, I don't think you were aware of it either, because if you were, you would have used it more.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I don't think Dan would have abused it, but I think he would have pushed it a little bit more if he knew the levels of security that John's co-sign on our show.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
i guess citing your encouragement donald trump runs for president and then the lines between sports and politics get more blurred donald trump weighs in on colin kaepernick uses a cuss word to describe colin kaepernick and the volume gets turned up on all of this and you see extremism find its way into sports because they're using sports as a pathway to further that agenda so
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Fun times ahead for the radio show. And we lose Skipper in the process and we lose all the protection. And then Dan realizes what he had when it's gone. So all that's coming up.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
But in the next episode, we're going to hit pause on the narrative storytelling of our show and do something that we haven't been able to do yet, which is really focus on all the voices that helped us get the show to where it is. We haven't really had Greg Cody's voice bless us. on this show yet. And I want to be able to pick apart each and every individual voice, what our motivation was.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
So the next episode is going to be a pause on the narrative. And we really hit a spotlight on all the co-hosts and additional voices that we brought in.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Super invigorated by it. We were really pushing ourselves creatively and we had this whole new sandbox with the video element, which we were growing in confidence with that allowed us to do not necessarily video first executions, but video supplement. We were always keenly aware that we didn't want to alienate the audio audience, which was at this point really growing.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
We made the move in mid days for a lot of reasons. Number one for me with a bullet was life balance. But number two was I think the show can get much bigger, not just because it's getting more clearance, but because our podcasts were digital first property. That's how most of our audience consumes us.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
If we get to market earlier, I know, I just know, we're going to see that bear out over the podcast numbers, and it did. We were a podcast sensation. We were the biggest thing in sports podcasting, all while ESPN really knew very little about podcasting and how to monetize it, but we were crushing it.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Allow the man to speak. You're fitting out.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I mean, let the man speak.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
That's a good point. Waking Take is a judgment-free place. Oh, you're right, Dan. You're good. Yeah. Because remember, we established Waking Take's all about vibes. Yeah, it's all about vibes.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
We accept your apology. Now fit in, please. Have the respect for us that we showed for you by accepting your apology.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
They don't think I'm going to take their phone calls? Hold your bluff. You've been saying it for four months.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
We had a full board of calls for people just waiting to silently wait for an entire segment to pass just so they could clap at the end of it. Right. So the people want to call, they just don't trust you.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
It was the single biggest bet that we made as a show. No doubt. The decision to prioritize digital audio when you made your money not driving people away from the commercials. You made your money having people sit in their cars through those commercials.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Single biggest bet that we ever made was what we were best positioned for because we always had a keen understanding of where the industry was going. And to have this move coincide with this huge podcast boom that we were at the forefront of, it immediately paid dividends on a huge bet because it didn't come without risk. At the forefront, accidentally, I would say you were protecting things.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I think that short sells like how strategic we were. When I say accidentally. We didn't stumble into this.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Yeah, and there are some political ties with the Buccaneers like there are with the Jets that might allow you to read through some tea leaves. The Seattle one really angered me, too, because Pete Carroll sort of got preachy and took the opportunity to make it look like he was being nice to Colin Kaepernick. No, he's too good. to be a backup here.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
He's a starter in this league, and then he signs a guy who hasn't thrown an NFL pass in three years. And if you can speculate by reading into what Colin Kaepernick retweets, because he's not actually talking about football, then you can see Colin Kaepernick was kind of bothered by it too.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Yeah, they accidentally stepped into a lot of digital audio success because of our hard work, our decisions, our occasional fighting to keep this RSS feed alive. The RSS feed that you're listening to right now is the one that we created back in 790 in the bowels of Miami Gardens. It came with us through ESPN. I saved it seven times. You never actually did. And it followed us.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Colonel Jessup, did you order the code wet?
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
And we were very strategic with this and we were constantly trying to get, you know, podcast exclusive content.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I had one in my neighborhood when I was growing up. I lived in Westchester.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I lived in a middle class neighborhood and I had that guy show up at 10 a.m., which wasn't great when I was in college.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Well, I was strategic with it, but me and my production team, the shipping container, you know, editing the podcast was a massive chore because I didn't want to have this huge runway of getting my podcast to market as soon as the show ends and then work on post-production for two hours. So you would occasionally lose a producer because we would post hours as they would finish.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I didn't mean to... I lived through it. I lived in a middle class neighborhood. There had to have been a reason why he kept coming back. Right? You wouldn't think that he'd make it a part of his route if he got no business there. That's true. Yep. Good point. I didn't have one in my neighborhood growing up.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I mean, I've only heard someone screaming into a bad sound system. And it was the most... Oh, God, when you did that, a chill went down my spine. It's so exciting, though. I feel alive. No, you're always woken up because that horrible sound system and the guy just screams.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Did you have the fruit truck guy? Yes. Yeah, because that's a Hispanic thing, too. Instead of an ice cream truck, you have the...
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country. They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
And that was a huge advantage for us. And we never really got that much pushback from ESPN as to how we were releasing it. There was one guy, ESPN, whose his whole job was digital, Pete Giancini, and he was just marveling. And he gave me a lot of great advice on cadence and how to release things.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I know it was a bit controversial, especially with some of our contemporaries, our strategy to break it up, thinking that we were gaming a system. I would say, no, we're not gaming a system. We're actually getting the rewards for the work that we're doing.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
doing other podcasts do maybe three hours of content a week you know we do four hours a day our episode lengths are just as long as your episode links it was really how espn wanted to do it i actually followed there because i was kind of old school rogan model let's just pump out three hours at one time it really helped shape and inform how i would go forward i wish we did a little bit more with digital video because those were the very early days but i wasn't getting leadership there from espn
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I was kind of leading the way when it came to digital audio. It was really cool to see that be a successful bet. And it was a little frustrating, too, in that we found even the worldwide leader couldn't sell it, couldn't monetize the podcast. Matter of fact, they never figured it out. They just outsourced it. They don't actually sell their own podcast inventory.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
It's a shame because they've had properties like Bill and us in-house, and they kind of wasted that opportunity in ways that I kind of wasted the opportunity to leverage their digital video assets.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
family and great tasting light beer tastes like miller time miller light is brewed for taste it hits different than other light beers when you're hosting your ultimate game day party why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because miller light is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I wish I was smarter back then. I wish I was smarter and more capable. Well, Like, it was hard to see, though. I mean, I saw the podcast thing coming. I should have seen the digital video thing coming. It's not like I didn't see it coming, but it just felt like it was too difficult to do all those things simultaneously at once. It is.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
You don't say. And it is. It is. My main regret. My main regret there, if you will, on the digital video front is we didn't have to do that part particularly well. That actually didn't have to meet our standard. We just had to be doing it more actively. I wish I had a grandfathered RSS feed for video like I did with audio. That wasn't the case. So that's the one misstep I made.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
While I made very good, bold moves on the audio front, digital video, I think you can certainly nitpick and say I made some mistakes.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
You can get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly. And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York style pizza from John's on Bleecker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I'm glad you mentioned that, too, because another thing that I kept away from you was the actual directing on site in Miami. Charlie had left to D.C., was going to start climbing in his career. We had Lorenzo's very green. We had a very small team in D.C. I was also kind of producing the video product as well, giving camera cues, making sure that it was relayed sometimes through.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
So you're producing us and you're talking to them at the same time.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
That was our Washington product, but we had stage directors in Miami. We also had camera operators here in Miami. I mean, sometimes, look, I'm not going to relay a message to DC when this is a show that is so heavily reliant on comedic timing. So sometimes I just go direct to our camera operator and DC kind of falls in line.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
But all that's to say, like, you needed to feel like that wasn't actually an operation that was going on.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I learned how to produce TV. Right. And I learned right then and there that production is production to a large degree. Like a lot of the skill sets that I was leaning on when it came to the sonic experience of the show translated, whether it be communication, leadership, foresight, all that stuff, intuition.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
I knew where to put the cameras better than the camera operators just because I knew the show better. And by knowing the show better than anybody else, it also made me the most qualified person to produce and not to take anything away from people in D.C. But they were kind of following my lead there.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
This is a fascinating story. If you've been following, yeah, they don't actually watch any of this stuff. They've never watched any of this stuff. I was going to ask you to name names, but you did. Thank you. You know what's fascinating about that story? And believe it or not, it's not that the fact that the ESPN suit doesn't listen or watch what's on ESPN. That job is pretty all-consuming.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
And I can understand how someone doesn't actually get around to watching what they're putting out. The most unbelievable part about that story is, look at your growth.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
And your relationship with TV just over the last few episodes, hating your fusion experience, going to ESPN, moving to middays, being on the main set to the point that we have to take a sabbatical from TV, a two week departure, no cameras at all, move back into our womb. It was that instantaneous and it was that seamless. The move to DC had you growing in confidence.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 8
Me working in concert with the TV team had you come around so hard that about a year later, you're saying, put us on ESPN too. Full press, I mean.
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GBF- Still Assessing
I don't know what whiplash looks like, but I'm looking at it.
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Okay. 9 billion people watched for one minute.
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anyway are we all gonna need like 17 different subscriptions to watch football oh 100 yeah you need it right now you have amazon you need amazon you need netflix you need sunday ticket you need youtube but it's like it's during the sunday ticket i do during the ravens during the uh the ravens
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GBF- Still Assessing
Have you seen it yet, Mikey, or no? Here's my feeling on it. I've watched enough Aaron Rodgers this year. I don't need to watch anymore.
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When he gets to edit and control the messaging, you like him. When he's live on television, not so much.
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I don't know. Let's vote on the MVP then. Exactly right.
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They were writing down everything to do during hurricane season.
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I did. I did. I jumped 200-something spots. There you go.
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Oh, f***er. Super excited. I'm back. Back in.
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GBF- Still Assessing
Who is the team most likely to sign Kirk Cousins? If Kirk Cousins gets to choose, it'll be the Colts. He had an opportunity to go to the Jets once. They offered him more money than Minnesota. Fully guaranteed. And he was like, hey, Minnesota, can you come close?
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GBF- Still Assessing
They were Michael Penix away. There's a little difference. There's a little difference.
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GBF- Still Assessing
I think Kirk Cousins and Anthony Richardson are going to be Russell Wilson and Justin Fields next year. There's going to be packages for Anthony Richardson, but it's really going to be really good to be Kirk.
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GBF- Still Assessing
Yeah, well, a lot of people want to start that I won't be able to.
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Go to a Jet game and count how many Aaron Glenders did you see.
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I don't remember. I was single digits then.
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GBF- Still Assessing
Well, it's complicated. It's complicated. I mean, I could explain it all, but I could just say Seahawks. Frauds?
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GBF- Still Assessing
Speaking of car accidents, last night's football game.
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GBF- Still Assessing
I could see how that would be the game. I could honestly see how that would be the game. Yeah. That was your Super Bowl pick right there. Yeah. Bears and Jets. I put that game on and my wife comes in and she comes to sit with me. She's like, oh, is this a big game? I'm like, no. She's like, well... why isn't it a big game?
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GBF- Still Assessing
The Rams? No, I don't want to talk about the Rams.
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GBF- Still Assessing
There's no way the Bucs are going to the Super Bowl.
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GBF- Still Assessing
I was like, well, that's the team Stu got picked to be in the Super Bowl, and they're out of it, and that's the team that thinks they're going to make the playoffs but isn't, and they're going to be out of it. That's how I described last night's game.
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GBF- Still Assessing
Trying to lose. Is Caleb Williams still looking for a Heisman moment? Like, is that what he's doing? Is he still scrambling around looking for that play to put on a Heisman reel?
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GBF- Still Assessing
Which leads me, can we start my game now? I have a game I want to play. Yeah, it's called Broads. Oh. Oh. So here's how you play. You ready?
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GBF- Still Assessing
I'm just telling you, we have a bonus appearance for Sims whenever you want. OK, what is Sims like on a Monday morning after working Sunday night football?
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GBF- Still Assessing
The last thing you want is for everybody to think that the batteries are dead. If they didn't work, you'd be like, oh, all the batteries are dead. I got bad batteries.
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Postgame Show: Best Back In My Day
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends.
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Postgame Show: Best Back In My Day
family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. When you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
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Postgame Show: Best Back In My Day
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Postgame Show: Best Back In My Day
Hey, folks. It's Mike Ryan, and I need to talk to you about something that I use religiously. Anytime I'm hosting a big dinner party, I want to impress people, and I get food from some of the most iconic, famous places in the country. You know what helps me do that? GoldBelly, this amazing site where I order from all the time.
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Postgame Show: Best Back In My Day
where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country. They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
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Postgame Show: Best Back In My Day
You can get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly. And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York-style pizza from John's on Bleecker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit-style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though...
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Postgame Show: Best Back In My Day
They will ship you Guy Fieri's famous trash can nachos, which I kid you not, are the ultimate game day centerpiece. So if you're looking to host an epic Super Bowl party, or any party for that matter, go to goldbelly.com and get free shipping and 20% off your first order with promo code DAN. That's goldbelly.com, code DAN, for free shipping and 20% off your first order.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
So there wouldn't be wind resistance as she spanked your ass. Yeah.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
This was after Hurricane Andrew.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
I mean, Lucy killed somebody, and that's a $50 fine.
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And we have the Venmo Fun Bucket, which is presented by Venmo. He also said that. I know. I was told to say it again.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
I don't know. You see some of these pregame shows. You have the Dodge Ram pregame show presented by Built by the Home Depot. They're all over the place.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
I go fully clothed. Put it on the pole. I've been hit on in my sauna before, and it's just like ever since then. Oh, what does that tattoo mean? It says Tropical Park, my guy.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
I take them off before there, but don't send me because I'm presently wearing them under a thermal, so that'll tell you a little bit about my situation. Okay.
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Oh, man. By the way. Good old Miami. Appreciate the setup. Can we show Roy chilling there with the Nicolas Cage pillow in the sauna? Because we have a sponsor for this sauna. Enhance your physical and mental wellness routines with Redwood Outdoors. Take advantage of special savings today. Visit redwoodoutdoors.com and use code DAN to save $175. That's a huge promo code.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
Hey, howdy, listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. You know, as the football games get bigger, everybody's talking about hosting parties. It's always difficult. Everyone's got an opinion.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
Why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of Miller lights and make everybody happy? You could be on opposite sides of the big game, but you still know that you are brought together by Miller time. Miller Lite is a great unifier. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. The original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite. Great taste.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan. Find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
Man, so boring. He just doesn't have it.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
If he himself is bored by it, how can I get drawn in? I'm not disagreeing with his style of play. His style of play is very aesthetically pleasing. You don't see a guy that big be that skilled, but he is boring.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
I don't find the Chiefs boring, and this is probably going to drive some people crazy. Patrick Mahomes does not bore me, and Patrick Mahomes is probably a great comp for Jokic because you tune in any game, you might see something that you've never seen before at that position. Patrick Mahomes is cool. He's a superstar. He's engaging. He draws the audience in in ways that Jokic clearly doesn't.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
And also, Patrick Mahomes is always there in the end. Jokic, we've had this conversation about him for three years. He's won one title. He's got to be there in the end.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
Yeah, but they've had a lot of one-score games, and every one-score game they turn to Patrick Mahomes. Sometimes they turn to their defense and they make plays, and you know Patrick Mahomes is going to do something on that final drive. I understand. This is the most boring incarnation, probably the most frustrating, and the first time that I've really felt Chiefs fatigue. That guy's just special.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
I like how you're not counting the Broncos' loss either. Yeah, don't count it. It wasn't even played. That wasn't real? Were these super exciting? Historically, Hopkins and Hollywood Brown, who is now healthy, right?
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
These are exciting receivers. Were these fast?
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The way that they use him is fun. Pacheco is fun to watch because of his running cell that very few people in the league can replicate.
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He was cocky though. I think.
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Mahomes draws you in because of his passion for the game, too. And there is none from Jokic. Like, Mahomes has got the cool hair, the cool sunglasses.
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You want nine routes for Patrick Mahomes.
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Okay, well, one 60-yard reception and a receiver that's capable of giving you that adds to the excitement.
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But that was a draw to get Hollywood Brown. Like, come here, prove it here, and increase your value. And then he had the medical issue.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
I would love to give that receiving core to Josh Allen. And I'm the biggest Khalil Shakir guy that there possibly is. And also, he's on the IR. But Rasheed Rice is also a part of that unit. They've got talent now. Last year, fair. And Rasheed Rice hadn't come online. But they've got some talent around them. And now they're all getting healthy with the exception of Rasheed Rice.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
Is that still a thing, by the way? When he first got hurt, they were like, you could if they make a deep run.
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Yeah, his one dimension is I'll catch a 45-yard bomb.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
They haven't been explosive, but their explosive guys have been hurt. Although Xavier Worthy, the first-round receiver, that is explosive.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
Mahomes had a 54-yard touchdown pass to Xavier Worthy in Week 4 against the Chargers. It was their longest pass completion on a scoring play since 2022.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
Dan, I'm 39 years old. The only memories that I have of Michael Jordan are when he was winning. I don't remember the roadblocks. I needed the documentary to fill in those gaps. When he was losing to the Pistons, was Michael Jordan certifiably consensus the best player in the league?
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
Hey, howdy, listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great-tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and great-tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. You know, as the football games get bigger, everybody's talking about hosting parties. It's always difficult. Everyone's got an opinion.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
Why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of Miller lights and make everybody happy? You could be on opposite sides of the big game, but you still know that you are brought together by Miller time. Miller Lite is a great unifier. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other Lite beers. The original Lite beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite. Great taste.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
Yeah, I think it is shocking. It's kind of shocking. I think it's shocking. Because I think everybody would understand, like... more unguardable, even more dominant, but better offensive player, I feel like that is shocking.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan. Find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic
How about statistics?
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That's how I define it.
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Okay, but you're going up against the greatest myth in sports.
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There's no way that body holds up for five more titles.
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Look at the efficiencies. Look at the scoring. Let me be clear. I don't disagree with you. In my mind, the most unstoppable basketball player I've ever seen is Jokic. We're wrong. We're wrong. No one's copping the Jokic shoes. I get the IG ads all the time. No one goes to the gym and says, you know what? I'm going to play like Jokic today. It's just not. Michael Jordan was a cultural phenomenon.
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Izzy, the league is dying on his watch. Like Michael Jordan rescued the NBA.
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And brought it to unprecedented heights. You think Jokic is going to be in Space Jam?
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Thank you. I don't like what's happening here.
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of the TVs, maybe? Two words for you. Bill Lambert.
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What? Wow. You think you're helping your cause now?
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Well, I would love Hawk's perspective on it as a man that recently relocated to South Florida. So the new perspective is certainly one that I would welcome.
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You're just going at people's character today.
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This episode probably should come with a trigger warning. But also, I went to a Baptist kindergarten elementary school, Westwood. This wasn't that long ago. I had a principal, Miss McCraney. She had a glass eye and toes that would curl up for whatever reason. She still wore open-toed shoes. And she had a paddle in her office that had holes in it so it was more aerodynamic.
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Dallas is still out there. I did see a report.
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No, I know. I saw a thing where Belichick I don't know exactly the source, but it was like, had Belichick known that the Cowboys job would be available, there may have been interest there. And it's like, had he known? Did he not know Mike McCarthy was the coach last year? The whole world knew that job was going to be available. What are we talking about?
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Anyway, you were going to say? I don't know. You guys got a quarterback, huh? What do you mean? Your coach. Yeah, geez. Good morning, Billy. I'm rattled, yeah. What's the matter? You okay? Aaron Glenn, I saw, wants to have Aaron Rodgers back.
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Did you see poor Robert Sala was flying into Jacksonville last night for an interview while all of that was going down?
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Might as well get right back on that bird, buddy. Jacksonville's making the Jets look good, huh? The Balkies. You okay, Billy? No. Goddamn football. God bless football. Oh, yeah. I missed even that up today.
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It seems like a weird phenomenon, and I don't know if you have thoughts on this, Adam, or maybe we're just overthinking it. It seems like kickers are getting more accurate from further away and less accurate from close. We've seen people drilling the long field goals this year at incredible accuracy and missing extra points seemingly every game.
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Adam, let's say in a strange world, this weekend you get a call. It's Andy Reid. He's panicked. Something happened with Harrison. Oh, wow. Something happened with Harrison. We need you in a pinch. How far can you still hit him from? What do you tell him?
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When does daddy stop letting the boys like win? You know what I mean? Like, are you still out there competing with them and kicking contests?
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Yeah. It's sad. You know what makes me happy, though? God bless football is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. I'm happy because it's going to be a fun Sunday. But after Sunday, it kind of all goes downhill. It's a very slow, sad march to the Super Bowl. I mean, we're going to be in New Orleans for Super Bowl week. So we'll be there.
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Yeah, you're not included. You can't vote for yourself.
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Yeah. He was an MVP. Or if you want to suggest someone, Adam, feel free.
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Is there such a thing, Adam, as like kicker envy? Like we hear from quarterbacks like, oh, I wish I could do that. I couldn't do that. Like certain quarterback could do. Do you have that with kickers? Like there's kickers that could do something you couldn't?
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You know who can't get further than him, Stugatz? His son.
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We'll enjoy some of the fun that Radio Row has to offer. But yeah, it's sadness because you realize... that the season is coming to an end. And once the season ends, I can't say that God bless football is presented by Smirnoff. We do game days. Please drink responsibly. The Smirnoff company, New York, New York. It's just a sad time. Last game of the year. There's only three of them left. Right.
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NFC championship, AFC championship. And then the Super Bowl. And then it's all over. And then after this week, things get complicated because if you do our weekly fantasy contest, which is presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka, please drink responsibly. And you can compete against us. You go to DKNG.co slash Smirnoff. There's really only two teams. This week, there's four.
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You're playing for the NFC championship. Look at you.
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So you mentioned that this is the third time that you guys play this year. Their offensive coordinator, Kellen Moore, was your offensive coordinator last year. How does that work out? Because obviously you have a game plan from the past games. But like the first time you see him, do you like go up and volunteer like, hey, I have all this information.
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I think they may do X, Y, Z to people come ask you like, how does that work?
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There's four, but it's hard. And here's the thing about this week that is tricky. And we're going to get to the NFC championship in a moment. Here's the thing that's tricky. Tricky. The cheapest starting quarterback available right now is Patrick Mahomes. Oh, boy. Weekly fantasy contest. Yeah. And I don't think that I want to take Patrick Mahomes. Like, that's the crazy thing.
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And I anticipate it not being great weather. So I don't know what we're doing here.
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Well, I looked up the weather because there was a time when maybe we were going to go to this game. I looked up the weather, and it doesn't seem like snow is on the horizon. But it's definitely not going to be 85 and sunny. So... I don't know that this is going to be a high-scoring affair. I mean, I hope that it is.
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Have you ever personally had a situation where like you have to remind yourself, lock back in because the energy is you're getting too excited or the energy is too much like headed into the game? They're like, let's just like take a step back, like refocus.
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During the season and during the playoffs, do you do you get to take a step back and like admire what some of the other running backs do like the year that Saquon has had and the way that you see him kind of like what you're saying is like slow it down, like not hit the initial gap, take a step, and then he breaks one for 70 yards.
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Do you watch film like that and say like, wow, holy crap, like what he's doing is special? Or do you are you just kind of focused on you and your team and kind of what you have coming up that week?
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And I don't like the people that are like, hey, just because you don't score, you know, 30 points, that doesn't mean that it was a bad game. Like, that's fine. But like 1310, like, I don't think we're going to be leaving saying like, wow, that was like a defensive masterclass. This was great because if we're going to be honest, Buffalo is not capable of a defensive masterclass.
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So if it's a low scoring game, it's not because defense was great. It's because it wasn't a super fun game to watch.
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Let me tell you something, Austin, real life sucks. Don't leave football. You don't want to get to real life. You don't want to get to marriage. Yeah. Body hurts, but like, you'll take that pain over the pain. Yeah. My body doesn't hurt. Yeah. Like don't, don't do it. Play as long as you can and enjoy these happy years because once you hit real life, Oh buddy, you're going to miss football.
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How much of a fan is your wife? Like, how much football does she consume? Is she at every game? Because, like, I have an idea for you if she's not paying close attention. And that is, if you don't want to go through the whole pains of another season, and maybe she's not keeping a close eye, maybe we just fake a season. You know what I mean?
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And then you have, like, a you year where you go and you're like, this is very... Yeah, very regimented. And then it's just a lot of you time. You know what I mean? When you transition from football to like the rest of your life and you just slowly go into it, you like stick with your schedule. You're like, bye, honey. See you later. Off to work.
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Sometimes. Sometimes they're great at defense. Sometimes. Love Spags.
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And she doesn't know the difference if she's not paying attention. If she is, I would have recommended because you'll get caught and it'll be very suspicious. Yeah, yeah.
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Well, tell DQ, tell, hey, just make sure that we have another 30 out there next year. You know what I mean? And then like, what difference do we know?
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I'm just saying we have some clunkers in there every now and again. You know what I mean? We do, yes.
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When you do, obviously not that we're talking about retirement, but when you do, do you think that you're going to stay connected to the game in some way or stay following the game? Or are you going to kind of disconnect from it for a little bit?
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Well, that's the thing. It's also hard, right? Because this is your life. This has been your life, what you've been working towards the entire time. And then all of a sudden, you can't just cut it off like that.
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It's going nowhere. Don't worry about Europe. It'll always be there.
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No, I'm a 300s guy. No, I'm a cheap guy. I'm a 300s guy. You think that I'm like a suite level guy? No, no, no.
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When's the last time you cried after the Super Bowl because football was done?
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No, I'm a nosebleed guy. He's a 300 level guy, Mike. I'm a nosebleed guy. You're a 300 level guy. Fine. I'm looking online and like... I see the prices and I'm like, three rows from the top is fine for me. Right. Because I'm not paying twice the price. I did that in Pittsburgh.
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Good decision. As you should. I've always thought the Super Bowl is exciting, but to your point, it's really kind of like even a sad week at Radio Row because it's kind of like a march towards the death of the season. You know the season's over.
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Opening night is fun. Super Bowl week is fun because everybody's in town. You get to see people. You get to interview people, hang out. But you know that the party's over on Sunday.
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I was going to say the sadness lasts like two weeks and then you're in Indianapolis at a combine. You're like, OK, this never actually does end.
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What I do is I hit zoom all the way out so that I can see every single possible seat. Yeah.
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Well, if I'm going to be honest with you, I have been – I've been looking the last two weeks have been. Plans have been in motion to maybe get me to cold games just for content purposes. We spoke about Buffalo, I think the other on Monday we spoke about my plans to go to Buffalo for the Buffalo game against the Ravens. And then that didn't get cleared, so it didn't happen.
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Chris, I don't know if you saw it yesterday. I believe it was the day before. You mentioned how Josh takes care of the ball. He doesn't turn the ball over now. He's learned where they ask him. On that third and goal where you were rushing in, you looked like you wanted to pitch that ball back and try to get someone into the end zone. He's like, no. I was like, did I think about it? Absolutely.
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Would old Josh have done that? Absolutely. That's what I'm saying.
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Oh, my gosh, he's going to do that? Don't do that.
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But I was looking for a snow game then. And then this past week, we got an invitation to go to the game. And this goes against everything that we've spoken out against it. we were invited to see the game in a suite. So it wouldn't have been a cold game. Nice and cozy. But it's a situation where the flights were not going to allow for us to, or allow for me to make it to that game and come back.
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Hold on a second. What numbers are you crunching here in this analysis of yours? He counted quarterbacks. He was like, one quarterback's good, two.
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It was, well. It was very nice of her, yes. I'm not going to say. Me and Billy. I very much appreciate the invitation from our friend, Ed. Right. But we were not going to be able to. I was not going to be able to make it up there and get back. And, you know, anywho. Yeah. Cut off. Yes. Is it just cold or is it cold in the elements?
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No, I saw. I saw. And there's there's like a two to four percent chance of precipitation. And the wind was only six miles an hour. I did my research. Good. I wow. I'm impressed. 30 is not 30. Honestly. Summer day. Summer day.
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On Thanksgiving, though, are you ever that guy? Thanksgiving family? Of course. Of course they are. That's why all the kids want to be on my team.
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That's all. Chris knows from Thanksgiving.
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Get some hand warmers in there. It's an open air 30. Yeah. Open air 30. Oh, I know. Arrowhead's one of my second homes. Yeah, Chief Kingdom. Yeah, exactly right. Arizona being the first, right? Well, I have a number of second homes, so. What are you, Golic now? I don't play favorites. Well, my second homes don't come with houses. They come with quality inns, you know?
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Drew Locke gave you guys a memorable game. It cost you the number one pick in the draft, but you had a five touchdown Drew Locke game.
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Because in the hotel front, I'm also a 300-level guy, if I'm going to be honest with you.
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I'm good for Wednesday night. I like Wednesdays. He's up to something, Chris.
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Wait, hold on. Where are you doing it? Like a live show?
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Well, it sounds like you're putting this together. You need some guests. I mean, we might have some availabilities. You know what I mean? I need a little help.
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Can I tell you real quick, it's a game I like to call Zip It Up. Just real quick, because I'm sure you guys would love this game. By the way, we haven't gotten into the AFC and the NFC Championship games. That's what people want to talk about this week. We're going to get to it with some of our guests. They are good games. Great games. Can we just zip it up, Sean McVay? Like, just...
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Oh, Carl. Oh, Carl. We have a development from last week that we're going to have. I think we're going to need you involved in, but I don't think that there's much, if any, wiggle room in this situation. Okay, let me hear it. We'll get to it shortly. Stugatz is joining here, but we have various witnesses to what happened. Mojo, I don't think, is aware of the situation. Oh boy, what happened?
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Yeah, Mojo, we can't see you. I don't know if it's intentional or not. I need to hear about this.
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I believe that Mike Rawless is the only person that was familiar with what was going on and agreed to this. Oh, and he's joining now, which is perfect. This is true, I can tell already. He too is involved in this scenario, unfortunately, and he may be the one that is affected most. the most, aside from Kay Funk.
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So Carl, Cher Bear, Mike, Gordy, Kay Funk, the rest of the class. Last week, Kay Funk was extended an offer, a unique offer, For the college football national championship game. A very generous offer, Mojo. You're not aware of this.
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The offer was if Kay Funk won the game, won his pick, like he selected against the spread, if he won that, it would count as plus 10 wins. However, if he lost... it would count as 10 losses.
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And Mojo, seeing as you came in and you said... that you would be taking opposite Funk, that meant if Kay Funk won, you would get 10 losses and he would get 10 wins. So there was a potential for a 20-game swing in the standings. Redmaster. Yeah. Okay. Now...
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Well, thank you for ruining the end of the story, Stugatz.
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zip it up Sean McVay I don't want to hear from you that you want an answer about Matthew Stafford's future sooner rather than later where every year you play the game am I going to retire as a 37 year old head coach like I love it zip it up okay I don't want to hear from you trying to rush Matthew Stafford when you are always keeping people in limbo about your future that spoiler alert always ends with you coaching again because you've been a coach for six minutes enough right
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Well, okay, so here's the situation. K-Funk ended up taking Notre Dame plus eight and a half.
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So for those unfamiliar with how that game ended, Notre Dame had it within eight points, and then there was a seemingly meaningless field goal with 20 seconds left in the game to make it an 11-point game, thus costing K-Funk 10 losses and giving Mojo 10 wins. Hold on to it.
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it got even better the guy ran out of the end zone for the two-point conversion so i didn't the game end at nine uh that was yeah that happened in the nfl yeah that was that was that was as well and k-funk lost that game as well k-funk because of that safety k-funk last week went 1 12 and 1
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So here's the thing. It was looking like Carl had a bad week at 0-3-1, but Kay Funk came in at 12-1-1. Sherbert had a 1-2-1. Gordy had a 2-1-1. Here's where there may be controversy. So I updated the standings, and I have an update of the standings headed into last week and then after last week. So headed into last week, Mike Rollis was our new leader in the clubhouse. He had a 593 win percentage.
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He had surpassed Mojo with a 579 win percentage. What? Yes. Yes. Yes. Mike Rollis has been hot as of late. Carl has a 558 win percentage. Gordy has a 488 win percentage. Kay Funk had a 441 win percentage. And Sherbert had a 411 win percentage. Now, after last week... There's been change in the standings because Mojo went 12-1-1 and K-Funk went 1-12-1.
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So because of the 12-1-1, Mojo now has a 6-21 win percentage and Mike Rollins has a 6-0-8 win percentage. Oh, my gosh. And Pat, the spreadmaster.
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You're welcome. Had Mojo only been 3-0-1, Mojo's win percentage would have been 585 and Mike Rawless would still be the leader at 608. So the 12-1-1 has now catapulted Mojo back into first place now.
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Hold on. Hold on, Carl. Let me finish. There's nothing to say no to. I will say this. I will say this. Mike was in the room when we made this agreement, and he approved of said agreement.
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So I don't know that there's a lot that he can argue. I will say this. Just one last thing, and I don't know if this will sway the jury here. Because of his 1-12-1 record last week, Kay Funk's win percentage is now 394, and he has fallen below Cher Bear for the season at 410 win percentage. So Kay Funk is now in last place after his 112-1 week. All right, let's have Carl speak here.
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How's that sound? I'd rather hear sooner rather than later. Yeah, so would everybody else who's trying to figure out if you're going to be the coach of your team or not when you do this ridiculous charade of I'm going to retire in my 30s from being a head coach. Sure. Guy. you haven't made enough money to retire yet. Okay. Like enough.
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hold on a second hold on a second hold on maybe we can okay let's hear carl i think i think look i think we all agree k-fun gets the 10 losses right i think maybe i think that's absolutely i never that is fact All right, hold on a second. Maybe, maybe. Okay, how about this? Maybe we can do this. Because Rollis was in first place.
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Maybe what we can do is maybe we split the 10 wins and Mojo gets five and Mike Rollis gets five. Kayfung still gets his 10 losses and we all are happy.
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I'd be happy with that. He didn't even stand to lose anything in that. I think the most important thing, though, is Cato gets the 10 losses.
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12 losses. Well, we would have to have this arbitration. Putting my record on the line.
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I think Gordie was in last week too. That's no way to live, sir. How about this? You want a couple wins, Carl? We can throw you a couple wins.
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Maybe Mo just stays with five, give you three, Rollis two. As long as Caleb gets the ten losses, we're good.
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Well, I'll say this before Kayfung comes in and starts spreading his propaganda. I was going to get to the games right after this. I know what he's going to say. Well, we have two games. I know what he's going to say. So when things get started, if you guys remember correctly last week, the original starting place was 10 wins and five losses.
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Oh, I'm going to go into broadcasting on and do this and that enough. You're going to coach next year. Okay. You got nothing else going. You're going to coach.
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And then we said that would then be five wins and 10 losses for Mojo. And then as we were talking it out, I subtly changed it to 10 and 10, kept saying 10 and 10 over and over again and asked, do you agree to this? And he said he agrees to this. Now, Billy started at 10 and 5, but I kept changing it to 10 and 10 until he ultimately agreed to 10 and 10, not knowing that it had been changed.
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But it was cleared stated or stated clear as day over and over. Yes.
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All right. We need to add one note. Hold on. K-Funk, is that true? Is that true, K-Funk? Is that true, K-Funk? Wait, hold on. Mojo has something.
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that's not true he should be held completely false allegation yeah i don't know i was nearly a witness all right okay fuck you'll get your you'll get your chance just hang in there okay after we pick the game sign off on it yes right right right no he was nearly a witness yeah i think you sign off on it i didn't sign off on it and i did not sign off on it there you go i just witnessed it yeah you nod your head like in any sort of direction
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I think I went, oh, man. So if anything, yeah.
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NFC championship. I want to hear you say zip it up. I said, zip it up, zip it up.
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That's great. I also say this. Gordy was in a very bad spot about six weeks ago where he asked us flat out. Thank you. I did want to discuss that. Thank you for bringing it up. Please do not say my record because of how bad it is. And now he's one game under 500. Gordy has very quietly gone on a tear as of late, and he's got himself right back in the mix.
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NFC championship. Are we excited? Which game are you more excited about? I feel like the NFC Championship might end up being the more exciting of the two games.
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What a comeback story. Comeback player of the year, Gordon. Well done.
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What are you doing? I mean, it seems like this has been settled. So maybe we just get to the games to God.
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Well, we'll revisit the Mojo and Rolesting. We'll take it under advisement and figure out what we do here so we don't get caught up in this, I think.
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What do you mean? Yeah, but you're still going to dictate. You want it worth 10? Oh, we didn't get to you. What did you want to say before? Sorry.
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That's not audio. What do your notes say, just out of curiosity? Because every week you tell us you have notes and you've never shown them to us. Is it just like doodles?
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Yeah, same thing. I'm with Carl. Let's keep it short.
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Yeah, this is an important pick. So did you take the Commanders or the Eagles? I did. I did. I took the Commanders.
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They're both second to last place and last place.
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I'd really like to just really quickly throw my hat in the ring for rookie of the year. Yeah. Gordie was comeback player of the year.
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And then I'm going to, speaking of Gordie, I'm going to make the mistake that he's made too many times this year, and I'm going to get emotional. And, you know, I want it. My brain wants to pick the Chiefs, but I just want the Bills to do it, man. So I'm going Buffalo. Okay.
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Yeah. So it's 39 degrees, partly cloudy, 9-mile-an-hour winds. So 39, it's not going to snow, you wouldn't think. I mean, it can't snow if it stays 39. In Philly, you're saying. Yeah, yeah. So that game, it's not going to be the weather we saw last week in Philly.
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I don't know if the kids should hear whatever you're going to say.
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Mikey, I'll tell you this. If it was up to me, you'd be there, like in a heartbeat.
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Yeah, well, you know, he started by you. I don't know what to tell you. Yeah. What's the matchup you guys want to see?
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commanders would be fun i think i agree i don't want to see eagles chiefs again we already saw it so well commanders would be fun because then we also get the situation where we try to fire nick sirianni so like right right i like i like the fire nick sirianni after an a or nfc championship loss and i think the three of us are pulling for a boy austin eckler to get to a super bowl here so yes definitely one yeah austin eckler um
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Washington and Buffalo would be fun because, as we noted, Buffalo, not exactly known for their defense. So we could have a fun, maybe high-scoring Super Bowl, a little back and forth between the commanders and the Bills. Give me the history. Give me the Chiefs. Give me them going for the three-peat. Again, I wouldn't mind a three-peat. I really wouldn't mind a three-peat.
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And if the Chiefs won this year again, even after their 15-2 regular season, maybe one of their more impressive Super Bowl wins. You're right. Some are more impressive than others. I'm with you on that. They had to go through the likes of Bo Nix to get there.
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the dominant that's what happens when you get the one c two home games to a super bowl billy that's what brady did it would be it would be funny if like the chiefs go to the super bowl against the commanders win the super bowl and then like things do not play out the way that we hope they do play out and in five years like man the chiefs went through bonics
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And then they went through Josh Allen and the Bills, which is okay. You're leaving out C.J. Stroud. I forgot about Stroud.
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Oh, you know what? They didn't go through Bo Nix. Bo Nix was the Bills. Yeah, they didn't go through Bo Nix.
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I had to zip it up. Yeah, I had to zip it up. The Balkys. I wonder if Balky wasn't there, what kind of feeding frenzy there would have been to coach Trevor Lawrence, you know?
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Did you see Belichick finally signed his contract? Oh, really?
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Yeah, he's locked in for five minutes now.
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So not quite the same with the never-ending possible. Toyotathon's his thing. I'm going to need when the McRib is back. All right.
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My issue is not that he's trying to sound young. My issue is that we haven't said hella for 20 years.
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And when Dollaritas are back at Applebee's. Okay, Dollaritas. Can we check back in?
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I feel like I would have thrown a flag every time. Hella.
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Brady, too. Yeah, Brady, when he inevitably comes back.
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Daniel Day-Lewis does something. I see that photo of Daniel Day-Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln. And you know what I do? I mean, Stugatz. I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do.
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Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. What is the stat? Wait a minute. You guys said Brady.
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No, I was joking. What you saw on my face, I was shell shocked. What an unbelievable stat.
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Venmo bucket is presented by Venmo. Nice. And it's been a longstanding issue here. No one has cash anymore. Sugatz always conveniently plays that card. Well, now we have the Venmo bucket presented by Venmo.
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Man, Tom Brady's pretty good.
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You can debate Flacco, but he's not a starter anymore. He's under 35? Well, no, I'm just saying he did it when he was under 35. No, but he's saying that. It's currently, basically, like. I'm a little confused by the premise.
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this is this is not i wouldn't mind it is not for me too many people moralizing it too many people that don't know the dynamics of their relationship maybe they're totally fine with this maybe they have an arrangement you don't know the lives of professional athletes get out of there yeah yeah i was gonna say the thing that reminds you though for travis hunter it reminds you of
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Here, Val, you wore all that and a bag of chips.
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That was an affront to production. You don't want a Tyler Herostat? No, but I do want how Jordan Love performs when the McRib is back.
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Once again, Saturday is presented by Miller Lite.
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How about when McDonald's has a Monopoly game?
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But it was for the Spoh thing, so it's like hockey. It's a delayed penalty.
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Well, these kind of symbols do pop up. It's curious to see cable news, how they talk about Luigi. That's bad vigilante justice. But coming up next on Hannity, Kyle Rittenhouse. So we do prop up vigilantes. It's just a matter of the crime and the cable news network that you're watching.
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But I think we all have to be super careful around this because this is different because he's representing a cause, a cause that most people in America have all been affected by being denied a certain thing, having to pay out of pocket, being frustrated with their insurance. So you have to...
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this requires some tact and considering he's becoming like a cult hero this is not a good idea giving him a joker perp walk with the mayor behind him and everybody trying to get in the photo this is just making it more of a myth and that's not a good thing counterpoint
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Is he Bane? He is in that prison.
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An alleged body count. But I think it was misguided. In the effort to play the political game and everyone cheesing for the camera, dude had off-white Jordans in the photo. Did he? Yeah. Not him. Hella dripped out. But in this effort to present law and order, New York got this bad guy.
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They're kind of playing themselves because, again, people are gravitating to this guy, and you're helping build a myth when you're doing that thing. He had a fresh cut. Like, how did he get that done?
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I have a theory, and this might sound bonkers to you, but everybody that I've floated this theory to, their initial reaction is like, what are you talking about? And then they kind of see it. So we say this was an alleged murder. He's not even really denying. We know what happened. We have video, right? So how do you go into a trial?
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Well, if this guy has a cause, my theory is, what if his defense is self-defense? I got him before his policies and this healthcare system got me. Now, it's going to be a difficult trial just because everyone feels some kind of way about healthcare. But if that is his defense, he actually gets to make the trial the showcase and put the spotlight on his cause if he argues that as his defense.
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But if he didn't have United, then it has nothing to do with him or the guy that he murdered, right? I think if he's speaking about general health care and an alignment among health insurance companies, I think this defense allows him to do seemingly, given what we've known, what's been published, his very clear feelings about the matter.
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If he goes down that road, he at least gets to present his case and put the system on trial.
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That's been this show with Stu Gatz for 20 years. Yeah, but we don't have a black guy going, mmm, when someone's making a good point.
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$100,000 every time. I mean, Ocho's doing that for Shannon.
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You're saying media because I watch hockey. Zach Hyman. Slap her to the face.
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We gotta throw a flag here. Hella? Hella.
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All right, hold on. I got all sorts of questions, though. All right, so we've established Toyotathon. Yeah. What are his stats like during, like, happy Honda days?
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No. You just had a birthday, dude.
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And is it just a car thing? Like, what are his stats when the never-ending possible is back at Olive Garden? Oh, man, that's a good one.
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The autumn wind is a pirate. St.
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The fake Mark Twain quote about coldest winters being summers that he didn't actually say. No, you have to have some element of elements in this sport.
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Right, but it wasn't actually Mark Twain that said it.
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Damn, I miss Thursday night football when both teams have a week's worth of rest. That's what happens occasionally on Thursday night football in an otherwise really boring game. We did get a national talking point out of the game, and we have an interesting cast of characters to walk you through that. Dan's a little late, so pinch hitting for him is Dan.
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Dan, we have perfect fodder. A football player quit on his team, so it's wonderful as the season just flames out in embers. Hawk admitted that he had considered, but not seriously. I'm curious, what was one point in your career where you were like, ah. I don't know, Jim.
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He is.
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Not letting him. Don't you think other teams, even within that division, will understand like, OK, he performed admirably in the starter's place. Starter comes back, starts not feeling completely right. They ask him to go in and not a good moment. Certainly quitting. But if you add just the additional context, people can understand like this was maybe just an emotional moment.
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Andrew Hawkins, a former NFL player, a former player rep, and a former team president, and David Sampson. These ingredients have never been together before, and we get to talk about a player quitting on his team. Let's go.
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Does it surprise you that it's a veteran that's doing this?
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I'm sorry, Stugatz is pinch-hitting for Dan.
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Sorry, late scratch. So, Stugatz, you're not a former player, you're not a former team president, but you are a hot take artist that found out about this story five minutes ago. So I am going to be very curious of your take.
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I'm not prepared. He's done it a bunch of times in his life before, just not for that team. I sucked at catching punts.
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Was that naivete, like you're just entering the league? Absolutely not. If veteran Hawk was around, would he advise young Hawk differently?
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However, for the audience that doesn't know, Devontae Campbell, a backup occasional starter linebacker for the San Francisco 49ers, was called upon to enter the game, refused to enter the game. And we have sound from all the key players involved. First, let me walk you through this. Kyle Shanahan was asked about what happened after the game. Here's the sound.
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Some of the ticket prices for these college football playoff games are insane, but it's the first time we've ever seen games with this kind of stakes attached in home on-campus venues. Really in-demand tickets, and I'm sure a lot of you are frustrated because you're wondering, how can I get these in-demand tickets? Jess, I know you're headed up to South Bend for a playoff game against Indiana.
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It's GameTime.
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They're usually up for the same roles.
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Hawk, you were on the Cleveland Browns with Kyle Shanahan, right? Yeah. Yeah, I was there. How do you think this flies with Coach Kyle?
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I've been saddened by... You played when it mattered. When bowls mattered.
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It sucked. You got swag bags. Yeah, I mean.
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So making a bowl meant an additional month out in the elements.
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And he provided – crucial insight in that he muffed a punt and got cut immediately, so he knows the cause and effect with his time at the Rams. I might make a mistake, Mike.
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You know, it's funny. You detail all these things that kind of sound miserable. Practicing outside at Toledo, CFL, winning one professional football game in two full seasons. Toledo. Toledo. Toledo. Holy Toledo. So you go through all of that. And then you go to Foxborough and you link up with the Patriots. You have the greatest quarterback of all time and the greatest head coach of all time.
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And that's when you decide, eh, that's enough.
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Like the Chris Bosh rule. Chris Bosh had like one point in an NBA finals game.
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Scoreless in a game seven. There was a basketball player that had one point in a playoff game, and I was like, I'd rather have zero. Zero? Yeah, I'd rather have zero than just one singular point.
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We had the talent, bro. Jalen Parmelee.
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Billy's Navidad, everybody. Merry Christmas. Christmas week is upon us. And many of you are hosting family gatherings, having friends over for the holidays, and you're wondering, how do I make this holiday time a special time? Well, you make the holiday time a special time by making it Miller Time.
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That's right, a beer with tastes that you know you can depend on, no games, no gimmicks, just great beer for people who like beer. You put out the Miller Life, you set it, you forget it, and everybody is all happy during the holiday season. You'll take that first sip, and you'll know right away you made the right call, whether it's around the
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Were these fleeting thoughts or legitimate things that you were contemplating on the sideline before they called you in on the drive?
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fire pit or on the Cajacina, you know that Miller Lite is going to hit the spot because Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers with simple ingredients like malted barley for rich, balanced Tofino flavors and that iconic golden color. The original light beer since 1975 and still the best one. Making memories at year-end gatherings tastes like Miller time.
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Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan. Find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories and carbs in premium regular beer.
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Was it against the Steelers?
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I wish it would have been against the Steelers. Those teams would beat you up physically. I imagine when you're 0-16.
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A lot of money, and to David Sampson's point of, I'll cut him on the spot, that is a lot of money. But Guy A is unreliable.
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Well, Hawk mentioned how this might go over in the locker room with the teammates. Let's hear from his teammates. First, Treverius Ward had something to say.
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He's also playing a position in which Fred Warner is excelling at his position with a fractured ankle. He's played several games in a row with that fractured ankle. Your take on what Ward had to say before we get to another team leader in George Kittle.
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So does this deflect from a loss that pretty much ends San Francisco's season? Or does it compound some of the larger issues? Because... If you're a Niners fan and you're watching that game, you're wondering about the blueprint. And then you have a productive player quitting on you, a player that you're paying a lot of money to quitting on you, too.
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It does kind of feel like, is this the end for this? Not necessarily regime because Kyle's in high demand, but their window certainly feels like it might have closed and slammed shut.
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I've had insight from previous union reps before, Hawk, but I haven't really had the opportunity to talk to you about these short week Thursday night football games because it's always a national talking point any time you have a really bad game. And last night was a really bad game. Watch out for the Rams, though. Sneaky. Yeah. I mean, they just have the Jets, Cards, Hawks. Keep an eye on them.
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You're right. They can be ours in the playoffs. I'm with you. They are sneaky. But were you in – I imagine you were representing your team when it came to these discussions on the short week Thursday night football games. That was slop. Now, there is slop occasionally on Sundays. Lord knows the AFC South was putting up about a decade's worth of divisional slop. But, I mean, you can't ignore it.
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They're paying a lot of money. This is a feature game. It does have some stakes attached to it, and it was just garbage.
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Yeah, but does your body physically feel different getting up for a Thursday game? I would just always assume maybe they're a little bit more sore. How do they get up and muster the same kind of effort? No, not when you're young, man.
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Let's not forget a week ago they had seven days rest. Sure, okay, understood.
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The Big Suey: Archie Manning Vs. Lavar Ball
Football season is here, and there is absolutely nothing better than game day. But it can be a little bit stressful. You're placing bets, you're setting fantasy lineups, you're figuring out the most comfortable position to sit on your couch for the next 12 hours. No one has time to think about this part. Cooking. Well, thanks to DoorDash, you don't have to worry about that.
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The Big Suey: Archie Manning Vs. Lavar Ball
I do buy it. Mike pointed out in this back room, quote, and remember, Donald Trump saved that dude's life, and that's what made me roll my eyes.
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The Big Suey: Archie Manning Vs. Lavar Ball
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The Big Suey: Archie Manning Vs. Lavar Ball
The best thing that can happen is if Jello now samples this off the top of his next hit and then makes this a real song.
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Okay. Yeah, you go in the next six minutes and try to find the right free use beat to pair with that.
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The Big Suey: Archie Manning Vs. Lavar Ball
Especially from him, I guess that's great. Yeah, that's a major compliment.
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The Big Suey: Archie Manning Vs. Lavar Ball
Either or. Just get there.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
Hindsight, you had the right call.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
Yeah, I'd like to revisit the Penn State of it all briefly because an expanded CFP is supposed to mitigate a team getting there kind of with a lucky path. But if you've watched these games, and I caught a little bit of BS from some Penn State fans online, but those that actually watched that game, I'm serious. I know it was a blowout against SMU. Penn State's offense stunk in that game.
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That game was there for the taking for SMU. And similarly, a little less so, but Boise State had its opportunities. And I didn't come away with Penn State, despite them kind of shifting a narrative a little bit. Look, James Franklin won two big games. College football playoff games are supposed to be big games.
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But when you watch those games and you consider the opponents and all the questions that you had about them, we're waiting for him to have a big one. and they go up 10-0, and I realize how many crucial injuries Notre Dame have, and I'm like, are they going to do this? Are they going to have good fortune all the way to a CFP final, and are they going to need this much luck to change this narrative?
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Because they also looked really good. They looked like they had NFL body types.
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Just to help you out, if this were not expanded, they would have been in the CFP. They would have made it over Ohio State.
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Well, they lost in the conference. I don't think they would have made a four-team playoff. Fair enough, but they would have been over what is now the odds on favorite to win the national championship. They would have been over Ohio State.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
Hey, howdy, listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
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Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. You know, as the football games get bigger, everybody's talking about hosting parties. It's always difficult. Everyone's got an opinion.
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Why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of Miller lights and make everybody happy? You could be on opposite sides of the big game, but you still know that you are brought together by Miller time. Miller Lite is a great unifier. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. The original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite. Great taste.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
Jess, you can't talk about double-digit national titles when every single call of you winning the national title sounds like this. Oh, there's Chubby Jacker running down the sideline. That's not true. And there's a World War II veteran pitching it to another white guy, and he avoids another white guy. Oh, my God.
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I think I'm like, I'm sorry, man. I'm improv in here. It was a pretty cool riff. He spells it differently. Maybe you didn't hear me correctly. His name is Chubby Checkers. There's an S at the end. I feel like that should be the largest of five. It sounds like a college football name.
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They would have lost to Bama by 40. That's what you're supposed to do.
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If I may, just to fuel this James Franklin narrative. They had really good fortune leading up to this point and their good fortune continued with Notre Dame's injuries and also they almost made it to a college football playoff final having won a semifinal game without completing a pass to a wide receiver. Did you see what happened on that field goal?
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
Did you see the two guys way in the back that weren't at the line of scrimmage to block the go-ahead field goal? What were they doing? There's plenty of stuff to pick apart. The call. Why is Drew Allard throwing in the middle of the field in that scenario? Well, that's another thing. Let me tell you something. He's 6'5 and white and from middle America. I understand why people like this guy.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
This dude stinks. He may get there, but this season they didn't ask any. You want to talk counting stats like 50 touchdowns, nine interceptions. I don't trust that guy at all. Haven't. That dude threw three picks. Now, two of them, rightful calls, I understand. But they were bailouts.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
The letter of the law, the official even in the booth said it was a right call. I'm with you. It was a bad decision, a worse throw. Warren wasn't afforded the opportunity to make the play as he was being face-guarded, but whatever. It just continued that I don't trust Drew Aller at all here. And in that late-game situation, he makes a terrible decision. I don't see it at all with him.
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I understand why execs fall in love with the measurables.
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Mark my words. I will wear that orange blazer one day.
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Greg McElroy knows college ball almost better than anybody I know. I listen to his podcast weekly. And as he was saying it, I was mortified. Mortified.
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Drew Haller doesn't have that TD to interception ratio because he's particularly good. I've watched a lot of him. I think he's fortunate. And they don't ask a lot from him. They hide him. They have really good weapons, particularly in that backfield. And Warren is like a unicorn. A unicorn that was probably concussed.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
I think both tight end ones were playing the majority of that game with a concussion. and he's just not someone that I would trust. I don't care what the numbers say. I don't trust his decision-making. Quite frankly, I don't trust his accuracy. Earlier in that game, that game is actually probably over if he makes a routine NFL throw.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
He has his running back wide open in the flat, set that goal line, and he puts a ball right at the inside knee. Not wrong. That is a throw, if you're talked about as a top five pick, you've got to make that throw.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
As someone that still has a framed picture of Brady Quinn as a four-year-old wearing a Cleveland Browns uniform, I understand what it means to have someone who grew up as a Browns fan be a quarterback prospect that might possibly save your franchise. So I totally have with the idea of you just crunching all 22 to see if you could talk yourself into this guy.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
Thank you, Dan. I am pumped. What a game that was last night. What an experience. It's great to have that barn jump in the way that it was.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
If he leaves Miami is an interesting scenario because I guess that's a possibility too. Well, we're just stuck with one another.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
For a little bit, the NBA PA came out with their statement. Jimmy Butler's been relatively quiet. He's posted some emo IG stories, but he's also posted himself at the Heats facility working with coaches. Coaches did not make that road trip. They stayed back to work with Jimmy, which I found really surprising. A couple of coaches. No, but coaches that travel.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
Hey, howdy, listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. You know, as the football games get bigger, everybody's talking about hosting parties. It's always difficult. Everyone's got an opinion.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
Why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of Miller lights and make everybody happy? You could be on opposite sides of the big game, but you still know that you are brought together. By Miller Time. Miller Lite is a great unifier. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other Lite beers. The original Lite beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite. Great taste.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
Yeah, yeah. It's a great kind of game because literally every play feeds to this narrative. And for those two programs especially, like... For the winner, greatness. For the loser, utter embarrassment. I think less so for Notre Dame when you consider their injury situation. But teetering along the line the entire game is James Franklin's legacy, and I think it just added.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
I thought last night was a spectacle. It was a great game, a bit of an old-school game, but it really opened up in the second half. It was tremendous drama.
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That's a perfect way to describe it. Yeah, I'd never seen that person before in my life. Don't care to see him ever again.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
If I may espouse the virtues of fighting Irish football in a likely scenario for me, no, I think if you play that game 10 times, that was just about the weakest form of Notre Dame when you consider their really bad injury situation. That game was totally there to be had for Penn State. Up 10-0, it felt like a three-score lead with all the momentum.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
And then Angeli comes in and they get a crucial field goal.
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massive for that game and then they start the the very next drive in that Penn State side which was that that stadium was loud last night it came across on the television they get the delay a game and you're you're thinking man Notre Dame is toast but they compose themselves they answer right back you realize this is a tie game and then we're just playing with James Franklin now you know that he's gonna screw this up Drew Aller is so friggin overrated I can't believe it hurts
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
I don't know if you were watching this game with the sound on. I wish you did. Because right before Drew Aller threw that interception, Greg McIlroy said, Drew Aller is not the type of quarterback that's going to throw an interception in this spot.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
I love that about this sport because it taps into something almost primal that the professional sports don't. The tribalism attached to college athletics is the closest thing that we have to European soccer. And I love that it manifests on the face. The surrender cobras in the sands, I think it just provides great drama. Jess is here.
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Local Hour: Big Game James Franklin
That's one of the best Notre Dame feelings that she's ever had, but also throughout that game, probably the worst she's ever felt watching a game.
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That run from Jeremiah Love with the brace on his leg to battle through. And Abdul Carter was the best player on that field. Yeah. and he's one of the players that slip off Jeremiah Love in there, who's giving it his all, like a heroic effort. That was just such a great game.
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Yeah, he changed his name, right? He added his, yeah. Could you get Josh Hines Allen? Is it up? Is it available? No, it's, yeah. Maybe Josh Hines Allen 12 Stugatz?
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It's we're, we're open to discussions.
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We're going to take it. Never. Never. Only if you're serious.
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He's going to have a heart attack.
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all right boys uh logo congratulations on being undefeated this week yeah once again poor k-punk yeah rock on goblets football
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GBF- Mi Casa, Su Casa
What does he say to him? Does he say, listen, you need eight catches. I'm going to throw you nine balls. It's up to you.
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Come on. Go out there. He's going to scream for a flag and they're going to pull him.
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I think Cincinnati is going to just be devastated because they're going to be set up, and I think the Dolphins are going to pull it out.
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Is he really? Unless Mike Vrabel's like, yeah, I'll come back, but I still want Rodgers. I'd be like, okay. Okay, you can have him. Why on earth? I love you. Assess all you want. I don't know, but... They'll give Mike Vrabel whatever the hell he wants, I bet.
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Yeah. Oh, Hembo leads analytics. Come on, man. Let's just put people in a chance to succeed here.
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I would. Oh, I love this. I mean, it's definitely not my first choice. It's definitely not my top three choices. He is the least of the evils that I would be like, okay. I would rather Rex than Matt Nagy. I would rather Rex than... Oh man. Some of those other guys, Todd Monken.
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No. Wow. No. I'm sick. I'm sick of hiring first time defensive coaches, giving them a young quarterback and go figure it out. And then when they don't, we go, I don't, I don't know how it, what went wrong. Right. That's fair. I mean, Herm with Pennington, uh, Rex with Sanchez, uh, Todd Bowles with Darnold, Sala with Wilson.
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Like how many times are they going to do the same thing over and over and then wonder why it doesn't work?
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And there's something to be said about that because as much as the Billies of the world get to make fun of us for – Yeah, I'm looking at you, Billy. Get to make fun of us for being the dumpster fire that we are, there's one guy out there who's banging the table saying, please give me the job. I mean, again, he's not my first choice.
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but if the worst thing that happens is we give the person that wants the job and only that job the job, I'm good.
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Then just send the picture. Just send the picture. Mike Golick written on the couch and just let him infer the rest.
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Golik getting up in his underwear. Yeah. In the background scratching himself.
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GBF- Mi Casa, Su Casa
Chris, there aren't a lot of games this weekend that actually mean something in terms of the playoff picture. But for every team, they got a couple of players who are trying to get some contract incentives, a couple of bonuses and stuff like that. How much is that like discussed in the locker room and how much do players be like, hey, I got this. You're going to run this one in no matter what.
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Chris, you got the Vikings this Sunday. They take on the Lions in Detroit for the one seed in the NFC. Who needs it more? Who needs that more to make a run?
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You lose your joke. You lose your play like a champion. Cause now they get to say it. Yeah. Yeah. I want that to go away. I I'm rooting for the Gullicks to be happy, but at the same time, I don't want that joke to go away.
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I think you should just offer it up. Oh, no, no. Offer. Just offer it up.
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Oh, yeah, he's great with the kids. Your kids will love him.
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I want the Gullicks to be happy, too, but I don't want to lose the jokes.
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For the sake of the show, I need the Gullicks to lose.
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I think you need to write Mike Golick on a piece of paper and put it on the couch. Take a picture. It's literally his name on the couch. Mike Golick's bed.
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Sims doesn't claim that. I don't think Sims would claim that victory the way the Goliks claim Notre Dame.
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This is the leverage. This is the leverage. He might be.
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He took Tennessee to a one seed and made the playoffs. There is not a bad team. I speak on behalf of the Browns, the Jets, all of them. There is not a bad team who wouldn't take that in a second.
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There's a lot of coaches that got that third chance.
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Maybe it wasn't him that was waiting. Maybe that wasn't the case. Maybe the phone just never rang.
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Is he watching Carson Wentz this week with envy? Oh, man. Oh, yes. Oh, man. I could have been there. That could have been my week 17 glory. There's so many. There's the past.
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Postgame Show: Roy Wood Jr.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
i think that's why i wept really was the the emotional release of it being over thank god we're not a punchline and we've we've over the last few years the florida panthers have done a great deal of suffering late in post seasons and i think that's what all poured out of me which is just like oh my god this is off our shoulders and we came on on the other side uh yeah that was not not at all fun
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The only other time that I think I felt that was when I was working with Chelsea and we won the Champions League. And that was like a whole bunch of COVID stuff and a whole bunch. And I kind of knew that that was the end of my assignment. I really poured myself into my work during that time. And that.
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I cried not just because they won the championship, I cried because I worked so damn hard to make sure that that life didn't interfere with the other lives and it was just a whole big deal. I was so happy for the people in that organization that I truly care about. I've grown to really love these players and have an affinity for Matthew Kachuk.
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After we left the arena at 3 a.m., Chris Whittingham is not lying when he says, like, my friends hate me. He was not enjoying last night. We FaceTimed him. My wife and I, we FaceTimed him again, and he answered at, like, 3 a.m. And we were just begging him, come back, man. Come on. I texted him before the game yesterday. I'm like, dude, we need you here. We need you.
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Maybe that would spark us if you –
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publicly say all right let's go panthers tonight i know men are stubborn but i've never been so stubborn to like be the hill to die on 120 jersey from fanatics like come on they made the right move and in the face of that he's just going to be the most stubborn he's ever been in his life he's got to be hurting yeah i i master my buddy master was with him and he said like he was not in great shape i'm like well we're all looking for the guy who did this
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
I want to enjoy it with my friends. We're just firing up in the group chat right now. In fact, one of the guys provided a video that we just showed. You went through something together. Whether it be those guys on the ice, they went through their thing together. We went through all the stress, the highs and the lows, the screaming into your sweater as a group.
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The group chat had a good feeling about this. And we want to, celebrate together and you want to enjoy it with your friends. I'm really bummed that we didn't get to enjoy it with Woody, but he became a rallying cry. My wife is still texting him, f*** you.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
I knew we were going to win with 12 seconds left. That's the only time where I was like, I'm actually going to see joy out of this thing. Because I ran through all the scenarios like Dr. Strange, and it was hard to find a rational reason outside of, we just have home ice in Game 7. That's what you play an entire season for.
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It was really hard to find a scenario in which I was going to feel any joy. And that's also probably why I cried.
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I can't imagine. And I know from people around the team, and Roy's played it cool, and that was a tense vibe. How could it not be? They had an extra day to chew on all the pressure. Maybe it ended up helping them. I know that 94 Rangers say that extra day helped them. And maybe if Oilers probably wanted to get right on the ice and keep playing and keep the momentum going.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
But, yeah, there's a lot of pressure that goes with Game 7 when it's for that cup. There's a whole new world of pressure when you're – a historic punchline.
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I want beer on your face for you.
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It's the weirdest goddamn series, man.
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We can laugh today. We're out of the pressure cooker.
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It's funny and absurd. You guys watched it on television. I asked Billy, who's not the biggest hockey guy, did that come across like it was a good game? Because that's a classic Game 7. Battle it out. Every play feels like it's important.
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Was it a big game? Did it feel good? It felt like a big game.
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That was a great sequence. Usually those first periods in Game 7 are tight, like one goal, right back at you, right away. Like, holy shit, we got the highest possible tension here.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
panthers got a goal and yeah you mentioned the icing but that's part of their style it's almost as if like you remember the raven steelers matchups in the in the regular season and postseason where their styles of violence those defensive styles made for the one example where you'd be like i don't mind this rock fight here in this game and that's that's just your classic game seven but i was curious for the people that weren't huge hockey fans if that game drew them in at all because i think they understood the stakes
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
Yes. Stats when you get to the Stanley Cup final can be overrated in that you need to implement your will and your strategy to win at least four times. And you don't give a shit about how you go about doing it. You just need to achieve that mission. Panthers did it four times. It took them three times to win that fourth one. Well, four times won that fourth one.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
God damn, we almost got really embarrassed.
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Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. When you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
Stugatz. We're going to get that off the ground. World RAR 3, colon. Our group chat has a pretty good feeling about this one.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. When you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
There was a world-renowned surfer who also took up some acting roles that was killed in a shark attack yesterday. And there's been recent video from South Beach of a bull shark really close to shore. We've asked you a couple of times on climate change and a lot of it's wait to see how this is going to change the behavior of sharks.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
Are we going to be seeing them come closer and closer to shore trying to find new sources of food?
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
You're muted, Roy. You got unmuted, Roy.
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You're not allowed in it. Can you get in the line of people that get their beard poured on their face?
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
That would be such a great video, though. Why don't you want beard poured? Good tent.
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What a day. We are made it.
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I'll text it to you privately. Thank you. Actual Florida Panthers, where are we with that? They bouncing back?
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Are we actually trying to change the state bird to the flamingo? Yes, we are. Are you leading this cause?
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
You think the rest of the nation is looking at this celebration because this is South Florida's first ever crack at this trophy. And this is Broward's team. And this is a super Broward County celebration right now. Lord Stanley was in the ocean. just moments ago. These are really cool scenes.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
Ron alluded to all the hard work that goes into this, and that's the type of pressure cooker these players were in yesterday in Game 7. The spectrum was this, what you're seeing on your TV, jumping into the ocean with the hardest trophy in sports to win, or punchline forevermore. That transcends that sport and gets brought up every time someone is blowing a lead.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
That was what was on the other end of last night's game for them.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
I care more about Matthew Kachuk than I do my daughter.
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Hour 1: We Are Made It!!!!!!
I just got word that we are fingers crossed that it goes up today. There you go. That'd be good timing.
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Hour 1: We Are Made It!!!!!!
You guys want to hear Roy drunk again? Yeah, sure.
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Hour 1: We Are Made It!!!!!!
I got home at 3 o'clock and watched the end of the game because I had recorded it. Just replayed it. Got to watch the final like 10 minutes.
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Hour 1: We Are Made It!!!!!!
No, we weren't, no. The whole Mick part.
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Hour 1: We Are Made It!!!!!!
He seems to be right next to Barkov's golf cart.
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Hour 1: We Are Made It!!!!!!
I'm going to stand right now. That's an Android camera. Oh, you're going to kiss my ass with that Android camera comment.
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A little lower. Lower, lower, lower, lower. Lower your camera. Lower the camera. Lower your camera. There it is.
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We're going for the ship. Tell everyone your media, Roy, and that you need to get through. Yeah.
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Hour 1: We Are Made It!!!!!!
And you know what we say to those people?
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Hour 1: We Are Made It!!!!!!
I didn't read your column after the game. Apologies. Did you hit him with the con, Smythe?
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Don Libetard. Our Panther group chat, we're confident against the Lightning. This is a different team. You're a Panther group chat, though. No, but dude, you're so wrong on that. We've been terrified of this team forever, and I think there's a different energy where the Panthers, they want the Lightning.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
They almost have to do it on Sunday because the hockey calendar is so weird. There's so much offseason stuff that needs to be done in the next 72 hours, and there's a draft over the weekend. So I don't think they can actually celebrate with their entire staff until the draft is over on Saturday. That's why they're reportedly landing on that Sunday.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
He's a big celebrity. I saw him around the lower bowl. He was getting pulled aside. People yelling, Phil. He took a million photos.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
Did you ever watch Girl Meets World? I didn't. You know that Sabrina Carpenter, the girl with the espresso song? I've been meaning to catch up on Girl Meets World. That's a catchy little ditty. Song of the Summer, they're saying.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
My dad was watching Juliet, and Juliet watched the entire game, and she recognized what was going on. It was in that moment that I was like, well, now I wish she was here, if she knew what was going on.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
He was priced out. I was priced out. But then I opened up the GameTime app, folks. Oh, boy. And I saw prices. They call them flash deals. And it was on the shoot one side, but it was also about $500 cheaper than the price that I paid for game five. And game five, I got to tell you, one of the worst purchases I've ever made in my entire life. There's no coming back.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
You thought. Just a terrible buy. But I checked the GameTime app, and I saw a price that worked for my budget. I don't really know how I'm going to pay for it yet, but I'll worry about that later.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
And if you're like me, and you have an opportunity, a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to see the biggest hockey game of all time, why don't you download the GameTime app, create an account, use the code DAN. For $20 off your first purchase, terms apply, last-minute tickets, lowest price, guaranteed, there is no discount.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
It means a lot coming from you guys. It really cuts me down to the bone, let me tell you.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
I controlled what I could control to win that cup. I brought it home. You should be embarrassed in general. Oh, I was nervous before game seven in which my team had lost three straight.
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You're welcome. You're welcome.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
My profound belief as opposed to your guys' profound belief.
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Yeah, I was. I mean, it meant that much to me. I definitely did. It was my life. Yeah.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
And I just wanted, I saw, I was so envious. I was so envious.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
I was envious of the vibes that the Oilers fans brought into that game. And people were talking nonsense to me, and I couldn't muster up a comeback or anything like that. But I just wanted, if anything happens in this game, you feel how I feel right now. You feel that anger. You feel that despair. You feel like, oh my God, we're this close and it's not going to happen.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
I just wanted them to make them feel that. Yeah. And they felt it, and then they choked the game away, and they lost to a team that didn't play particularly well offensively in the biggest game. They didn't choke it away.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
No, no, no. I'm saying like the vice-like grip that we had on that game. Like literally choked the life out of that game. That's what I mean.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
You see Tampa Bay congratulated us, Dan? I don't know how I feel about that.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
At Tampa Bay Lightning, up yours.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and friends.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers and when you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
I was shocked. Terrible job. Game seven. But that's a Panthers identity. We've said that aloud a bunch of times. Like, why isn't this goalie coming out? And it's because the Panthers are still occupying that neutral zone, and you can't guarantee that there's going to be zone entry from Edmonton.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
Yeah, but in the neutral zone, though, like, they didn't get a rush going, and you have to hedge against, like, a breakaway going the other way. I understand why he didn't pull them. I think he should have pulled them. Obviously now. Yeah, there was a stoppage in play where he should have absolutely pulled them.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
Not a lot of podcasts that are live can pull that off. I'm glad Stugatz is laughing.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
Nice little night. That moment was captured by PLG, and it was on the screens, and I was around some Panther bigwigs, and I pointed to the screen. I'm like, I can't believe they are celebrating a Stanley Cup championship in Westchester.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
All six of us will be there. All six of us will be there. I'm not gonna parse what our parade route is gonna look like.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. When you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
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The Big Suey: Big Friggin' Dave Bobrovsky
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Local Hour: THE FLORIDA PANTHERS ARE STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
And there were layers to prevent the puck cycling and doing all the Connor McDavid fancy things that we had seen throughout there.
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He had some chances, though, Mike. He did.
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Where were you when Aaron Ekblad stopped Connor McDavid on a 1v1?
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Ha, ha, ha.
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Because my soul left my body at that moment. And I got to tell you, there has never been an arena that needed the first goal in a game more than that building. Dude, there was no path to victory if the Oilers scored first. None. None. Negative aura, bad vibes, toxicity in our city. You guys did this before the game, too. They can say it now.
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That third goal was the goal. No, no, no. The Oilers simply couldn't score first. Someone that was there, no one looked up. Oilers fans were feeling themselves talking all their garbage as they should have been because they were riding high. That was a nervous place.
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There was a lot of liquid courage that got people up for puck drop, but that place needed, needed the Oilers to not score first to come alive and realize that, okay, You know, this is just a fourth chance in four to get one. Let's do it.
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It took them being patriotic for us to be patriotic.
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I am curious how that translated over the television because there it kind of felt like this is a moment. The Canadians pulling ahead of Alanis and Alanis trying to slow them down.
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You've got to let them have it. You got to let the Oilers fans have it, and you lay out. With the national anthem, bad job, too. But when she did the U.S. anthem, the Panther fans caught what had happened previously, and any time they started speeding up, they slowed it right back down to catch it. There's an intelligence level there.
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Not the greatest Game 7 record, but he's the greatest player in franchise history.
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Did you watch the Euros? He was jacked up because of Italy.
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He rang a bell. No, no. He banged a drum.
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Maybe Stugatz was confused because we did have that six-game stretch where there was a monk ringing a bell before games. Oh, Jesus. So he was too informed.
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That was what a miserable time in Panther history that was.
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It's Mike Ryan, and I need to talk to you about something that I use religiously. Anytime I'm hosting a big dinner party, I want to impress people, and I get food from some of the most iconic, famous places in the country. You know what helps me do that? Gold Belly, this amazing site where I order from all the time. where you can get all these amazing foods from all across our great country.
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They will ship free to your door anywhere in the U.S. of A. Gold Belly will ship you Philly cheesesteaks from Jim's or Pat's in Philly. I'm treating my office right now to a cheesesteak party from Pat's, courtesy of Gold Belly. And on top of that, I threw in some original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar in Buffalo. You can get Kansas City's most legendary barbecue from Gold Belly.
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And if the pizza near you sucks, they will ship you New York-style pizza from John's on Bleeker or Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. I do that all the time. Or even New Haven or Detroit-style pizza. If you are truly gluttonous, though... They will ship you Guy Fieri's famous trash can nachos, which I kid you not, are the ultimate game day centerpiece.
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So if you're looking to host an epic Super Bowl party, or any party for that matter, go to goldbelly.com and get free shipping and 20% off your first order with promo code DAN. That's goldbelly.com, code DAN, for free shipping and 20% off your first order.
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Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and friends.
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and great-tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers, and when you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
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Local Hour: THE FLORIDA PANTHERS ARE STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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He's here.
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Yes, he's doing that right now. He's on a golf cart with the sparkling water in hand and the Stanley Cup in the backseat.
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I think they definitely recognize the cup.
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Voice of the Panther fan? I mean, he traded Barkoff a year ago.
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Yes.
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Moles, how did you feel about Conor McDavid winning the Conn Smythe Trophy?
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On the plane back to Edmonton. There it is.
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That car was trying to get past Greg Cody. Some of the flooding. Everybody wants to join the parade.
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uh no not at all i love you back that's what you do that's what you do after you win after you win another car join the parade he uh he is out of control with ego and he does feel validated even though connor mcdavid he won the con smite in a losing effort and set the record for points in a postseason but But he did go pointless in games one, six, and seven. And, yeah, they had him in a vice.
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What about that sequence right in front of the Panther net where there's just bodies on top of bodies everywhere? And Bob, in the middle of all of that, gets his fingertips on his blocker side to push the puck out. And it's not something that you caught in real time. You were just amazed that the puck somehow stayed out. That was desperation.
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That was everybody putting their body on the line, and that's why you love Game 7s and this sport.
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That's why we count hockey assists. You call it cheating. I call it hockey, Dan. That was a heady play by Montour.
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That should have been a goal for Edmonton.
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That should have been the tying goal. So that it's overtime.
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You were terrified the entire time because, as they showed in that game, the Panthers made essentially one mistake in that game, and they paid for it. They get a little sloppy with possession in the zone. And that's Tarasenko, by the way, the savvy veteran, gives a puck away and a 100-foot – Eklad was so far out of position.
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You do not give up a 100-foot pass for that opportunity, and you realize, oh my God, it's happening again. This team all of a sudden gets breakaways at will, and we can never generate anything. There weren't quality scoring chances by the Florida Panthers. They didn't, on offense, didn't exactly play well. This is the biggest game in NHL history.
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A game seven, they won the cup, and they didn't even really execute on offense all that well, but they did what they needed to do defensively. Maybe if they swept, you could really talk about this team as an all-time team because this was the greatest NHL season. The greatest path for any Panther fan. You go through your rival, as you mentioned. You go through Boston. You go through New York.
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You go through a cup-starved nation and their greatest player. Unbelievable run. And maybe, even though it goes seven, and they're going to be that stat that comes up with teams that blow 3-0 leads, they can still be talked about an all-time team because that was a murderer's row they went through.
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Mike, do you agree with Dan when he's saying he's not fearing McDavid the last 10 minutes of that game? Because that's the one guy I was fearing. I'm just telling you that for two games— Man, I was fearing Monmark. I know.
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Quality backcheck. That's a Game 7 backcheck.
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Total cheating. I will tell you the only time that I didn't have fear was when 42 was on the puck. When he was defending an Edmonton Oiler that was rushing into their zone, 42, after coming off a nightmarish game, 42 bounces back. I feel so comfortable with that guy on the ice.
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And there's been a longstanding theory in all these podcasts that I've heard that your top defenseman needs to be a bigger guy because of the war of attrition in the playoffs. He's not a bigger guy. He's been waived twice in his career. He's the greatest waiver claim in the history of that sport. And I felt so safe with him when he was on the ice.
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And he didn't have to be the best goalie in any of the series. He wasn't the best goalie in this series as it played out.
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No, no, he was phenomenal last night. He had three outstanding games. But you look at who he went through to get to that place. Oh, the murderous row of goalies. Vasilevsky, Swayman, and Igor Shosturkin. He's not. There's a gulf there. And it didn't matter because of how this team is constructed. Constructed. I love it.
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Around that big contract of his, and he's a champion forevermore, and everything that Zaz said about his jersey and Hall of Fame, all that is true now.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, they don't get into the playoffs last year without Alex Lyon.
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Spencer Knight was on the ice.
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There's got to be a story there. You understand why Opozo's getting it before Ekblad. But I would have liked Ekblad, especially because the moment in that game, it maybe might have been the cheating from Brandon Montour as Dan highlighted, or the bodies on top of bodies in the crease. But I thought the 1v1, McDavid against Aaron Ekblad, who's...
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Played against Connor McDavid throughout junior hockey his entire life. He is not a great skater. There is such a wide gulf in skating ability on that 1v1. Eckblad stumbled with the cup. He almost tripped over the rug, right? He's not a great skater.
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That's not fair. I mean, he's had an injury-riddled career. Oh, and he was probably hurt there because his ankle probably swelled up.
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Yeah, you're going to find out the injuries for all the teams, the losing team, and you're going to find out what's going on with Florida there. But for one moment, Aaron Ekblad was isolated with the game's greatest player, and he summoned enough effort to stop him.
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They were due. I mean, fought it off.
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The fact that not one time this season did they lead headed into the third period and lose the game. That's right.
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How about Kevin Stenland without a stick for 96?
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He gave him one of these and one of those.
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Game seven.
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Why would he?
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Moeller just sent me a picture. Kachuk is at the elbow room with the cup.
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It's a bad luck. How? Jaguar came out for the last time. Look, I was there. There were a lot of Boilers fans out there waiting for that moment. McDavid should have skated out and done it for them.
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Roy will keep chasing. Yeah.
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Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite. The great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and friends.
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and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers and when you're hosting your ultimate game day party, why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because Miller Lite is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one.
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Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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They were pretty classy. They were pretty classy, all things considered. And they were out there specifically waiting. It was pretty cool because he didn't come out. They still stayed there because that's one of the great traditions in that sport. You want to see Lord Stanley no matter what. You don't know how many opportunities you're going to get to see it in your life.
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It would have been nice for him to skate out and give the Oilers fans that came out in droves that moment.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, he was plenty human. Five out of seven games.
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I'm borrowing. I don't have a lot of precedent for a losing team in a game seven having a Conn Smythe winner on their team. There's no real protocol for this. I was just borrowing from the last time this happened with Jaguar against the Devils. He came out, and I think that if he could do it over again and give the Oilers fans that moment, maybe he'd reconsider.
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But that's the last thing he's thinking about there. I get why he did that. I'm just saying those fans that came out, and they were Legion, and it really set up for an amazing dynamic because most of them, they were in the lower bowl too, but it wasn't Rangers-level lower bowl. It wasn't Bruins-level lower bowl. They were pretty much upper deck was oil country, and to have –
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The dueling cheers and boos from the upper deck down was such an intense crowd. And that's why people call that the best two words in sports, because that was an atmosphere that I've never really experienced in my life.
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Really?
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Yeah, of course.
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Well, I think Greg Cody at this point feels like he can do whatever he wants to do. I mean, he was right. He wrote the column. He had everyone talking. And it turns out that Greg Cody was a thousand percent correct. He should have won the Colin Smythe.
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I made an impulse buy on game time and I wanted to enjoy that with my wife no matter the result. And I told myself like right before skiing in game time because we were about to take my daughter to my dad's to watch her for us to watch the game. I said, you know, if my team wasn't in this, that's a place that I want to be. I love puck.
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I've been in an arena when they've handed that trophy out before and it's so cool. And I know it would sting like hell if this is the greatest collapse in pro sports history in a best of seven. But... Once you get some separation from it and that pain, if he comes back, it's the game's greatest player capping off the game's greatest comeback. And that's something that you have.
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And that's a conversation starter. That's whenever you get around with your hoes or friends, you get to say you were there. And on the opposite end of that is the franchise's first Stanley Cup. And it was beautiful, man. We wept. We celebrated with people in that organization. I got to tell you, I was really touched.
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I got a DM the second it hit triple zero from the dude that gave me my internship at a high school. His name is Connor Tennis, and I want to shout him out. That experience at a high school working for the Florida Panthers really shocked me.
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shaped me in a lot of ways because i went into a franchise i was undergoing a lockout and there were massive layoffs and it wasn't if we're not for that experience i wouldn't have valued the loyalty that i found on this show and the job security i had in this show so much i might have made different career choices had i not been granted that internship under michael yormark in the florida panthers and it was like it was a sweet emotional moment it's like after you have a kid you find yourself crying a lot for different things and i'm not sure i was crying so much for
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for the fact that we had won the Stanley Cup or the fact that we had gone through this incredible journey. But it was an amazing outpouring of emotion. I was really happy for a lot of those people that have been with that franchise for a very long time, Dan.
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10 Days of Gregmas: Day 10
Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. It is Big Game Week. And I've got just the thing to make your big game time a Miller time. From fireside conversations to football Sundays, winter means more moments with the coolest people in your life. Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends and family.
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10 Days of Gregmas: Day 10
family and great tasting light beer tastes like miller time miller light is brewed for taste it hits different than other light beers when you're hosting your ultimate game day party why don't you bring out a beautiful silver platter of that amazing white can and know you will make everybody there happy because miller light is the original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one
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10 Days of Gregmas: Day 10
Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Normal Is Broke and in Debt. Do You Want To Be Normal?
Hey, good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking my call. Sure. I have recently, sadly, I guess, come into some money through an inheritance. My wife and I's plan is to pay off all of our debts. And even with that, we'll have some money left over. Wow. My specific question is we currently have a mortgage loan. That totals about $450,000.
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$350,000 of that is a 20-year mortgage at 2.875%, and we have about 15 years left to pay on that. The other $100,000 is a HELOC. That's about 6% right now. We're going to have enough to pay off the HELOC and get the regular, you know, the, the first mortgage down to about $250,000. Wow.
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My, my question is, and I've asked a couple of folks, I'm getting competing answers, so I'm hoping you guys were a tiebreaker. Um, I have the possibility of refinancing that, uh, to, you know, $250,000 balance to a regular mortgage at 6% but for 10 years.
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So if I lower the pay, yeah, my payment's currently $3,300 a month. If I refinance, I can get that payment down to about $2,400 a month, and then I'll be able to actually put $1,000 per month towards the principal alone.
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Well, with my income, I wouldn't be able to do that.
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About... Every month? Monthly, $10,000.
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If You Live Fake Rich, You Will Become Real Broke!
Hey, how y'all doing? I got a good one for you.
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So we COVID hit. We did a big remodel. It was about $100,000 that we've invested to create home offices. As a result, we kind of credit carded everything and We've been living paycheck to paycheck for a while, and I've just lost my job this week. We were trying to do a refinance, and that fell through.
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And so long story short, we went from about $195K in income to about $65K and looking for advice. And we cannot sell the house because it's under remodel. We're not allowed to sell it for at least a year, and the remodel is not quite finished.
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Yeah, it was extensive. We kind of expanded the second floor and just with the goal of ultimately selling. But it's obviously when I lost my job, it was kind of a deal where it kind of put the brakes on everything even more after living paycheck to paycheck. And so we're obviously doing it the wrong way. So looking for advice on how to get out of this.
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Okay, so the mortgage is 202, and we have things like cars and credit cards, and a lot of that is just due to the remodel, but it's $210,000 and other non-mortgage debt.
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They don't. Yeah, so the cars we're paying, one of them is $394. The other one is $380 a month.
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Yeah, approximately $28 in total.
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Well, so one of them is about $13,500. The other one's $15,000. Okay. Okay.
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Well, unfortunately, we had like a foundation loan. A bunch of it's credit card. I have a student loan at about $20,000. And I think, yes, the rest of it is either small loans like through Home Depot or credit cards. Correct.
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I am looking for work, but I'm going to work on some certifications. I took a job that wasn't ideal for obviously my career and skill set, and so that's something I'm going to be working on is some probably Azure certifications. Are they going to cost money? A little. The test, the actual certification exam is only $165. Okay.
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I can. There are some sample tests and some certification videos that are very helpful, but it's minimal charges, if any.
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Um... Well, I've applied for a bunch of jobs already. It's a matter of finding the right fit. I would like to focus on the skill set to some extent, but probably in two weeks I would be able to pass that certification.
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I was at $130,000, but yes. Okay. Yeah.
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Well, we had a small severance, but it was only $5,000. And so our current, just our debt load is like a little over $6,200 for the month. And so the money we've got in hand will not last a month.
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Yeah, I had one job. I had one job where I picked up some work to do some light remodeling for a lady, and that was $530. So you're pretty handy? I've collected about half of that. Yeah, I mean, I'm doing the remodel myself, so yeah.
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To some extent, yes. High levels.