Florida fire-fighter, Derrick Dorsey came home from work to discover his wife Kim dead from an apparent suicide. Then the police declared her death a murder and began exploring connections the Dorseys’ had with less than reputable people. But they quickly learn that not everyone is who they seem.
Chapter 1: What warning does the podcast give about its content?
Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence and is not intended for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised.
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Hi, my name's Mike. This is my show. It's called Sword and Scale, a show that reveals that the worst monsters are real. And today we're going to discuss a very interesting story. But I'm going to warn you in advance, I'm going to offer my opinion. I'm going to offer my opinion a whole lot. I'm going to offer it so much, it's going to be really annoying. Is anyone really who you think they are?
Today we present just the very best moments of our lives on social media for the world to see. But that's not really the whole picture, is it? There's a lot more to us than what we show. What we show can be intentionally deceiving sometimes. That's why it's important not to believe everything you see online, especially if it's coming from an anonymous source.
That influencer that you follow that puts on makeup while talking about someone's death, yeah, she cries sometimes. Yeah, maybe she's even depressed. Maybe her life's falling apart behind the scenes and you don't even know it. Looks can be deceiving. And no, I'm not talking about anybody in general. There's lots of makeup tutorial true crime shows out there, sadly.
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Chapter 2: What did Derrick Dorsey find when he returned home?
But the point is that sometimes people aren't who they seem to be. Monsters are very much real, but they aren't always the person you first suspect. It was 8.30 a.m. on October 28, 2012, and a Florida firefighter had just returned home after a grueling 24-hour shift to find out that his house had been turned upside down.
Yes, my wife's hurt herself. Please say that Andy was fat. How did she hurt herself? I don't know. How did she hurt herself or something? Come on. Okay, let me get you on a phone rescue. One moment, Dad. Can't move.
The firefighter had come home to find his wife Kim lying bloody at the foot of their bed. She was naked except for a white cotton shirt which had been pushed up around her neck, exposing her upper body.
Okay, are you with her right now? Yes, I am. Kim had blood all over her face and hair. At first glance, it appeared that she had tried to hurt herself.
So that's what her husband told dispatch. Her body was cold and posed like a fallen ballerina with one leg curled, frozen in a pirouette. Kim had two white zip ties around each of her wrists and one around her ankle. Kim's husband had found himself on the receiving end of a tragedy.
As a firefighter, he experienced tragedy every shift, but it was much different now that it was happening in his own home. And he was growing increasingly angry as he waited for help.
Sir, we are sending rescue. Is she awake? No, she's not. I think she's dead. Okay. Is she breathing? No, I'm trying to get this dude to get out of her office. I'm trying to talk to your ass.
This is when Kim's husband began to realize that his wife was dead.
His name was Derek Dorsey. He was 44 years old and had been married to his wife Kim for a decade.
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Chapter 3: What evidence did the police find at the crime scene?
Yeah. Okay, I got you. I got you. Okay.
Lance said that he met the Dorseys when he worked on their house. Then Derek would call him to come do random jobs for his business.
How long ago did you say you lived with him? Maybe a month, month and a half. Okay. Not even, I mean, I just went and cleaned. Matter of fact, it's been probably less than a month because I just went and cleaned the room. You know, he called me like a week or two ago, asked me to come clean the room upstairs. Okay. Did you leave it trashed?
Well, I didn't leave it trashed, but I still had some clothes up there, you know, after we had to be cleaned, you know, regular cleaning, stuff like that. So you went and did all that? So I went and did all that. When did you do that? I don't know, two weeks ago. Two weeks ago, okay.
Lance said that he hadn't been to the Dorsey's house since he cleared out his stuff.
So you move out, when you move out, where are you living when you have to move out of his place? Lance said that he'd been staying with a new friend named Brian Kiefer. As he told police after leaving the Dorseys, he'd become a bit of a vagabond. Okay.
When the police were on to Lance, they didn't just bring him in for fun. You see, Lance had told Derek that he was on a shrimping boat in Georgia when Kim died. But that wasn't true. He was in Jacksonville, staying with his buddy Brian. Brian wasn't the most savory guy, put it that way. He was straight-up sketch. And the police soon got a hold of Brian and brought him in to talk.
There was a person that you know by the nickname of LJ. Do you know his real name?
It's Lance Kirkpatrick, but there is a middle name. I forget what it was.
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Chapter 4: Who were the key individuals involved in the investigation?
And then I had my girl brought over to my mom's. And then I was hoping the other girl would go.
The other girl, Melissa, did go eventually. But she was pissed. Despite being a crackhead, Melissa called the police to report her RAV4 stolen. She told them exactly what had happened and gave Lance's name. That's how the RAV4 ended up on the police radar, and how Lance's name clicked when it showed up on the report.
My next understanding is that you get a call from LJ on Sunday. Is that right? Mm-hmm. Is that a yes? Yes, ma'am. Okay. And what does he tell you when he calls you on Sunday?
We need to meet and tell you the location. And is that the gate? On Southside and Tustin.
Okay, and do you go to the gate on Southside and Tustin?
I go there in Gator City Cab, and he's standing out front, and he tells me, Do I need to?
Sure, you can go ahead.
Okay, he tells me that, can we pause it? No? Okay, what? Okay. He tells me that he murdered somebody and is pretty much just going to prison and there's nothing that can be done about it. And I'm saying, I said, what do you mean? You murdered somebody and your life is over and you're going to prison? He's like, I'm going to prison.
Brian was skeptical. Lance wasn't exactly the most credible person, and they were both, well, you know, sketchy. I'll just use the word sketchy. Is your son dead?
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Chapter 5: What were Derek and Kim Dorsey's backgrounds?
He said that the lady was going to call his boss that was at the fire station, her husband. And I guess he took her cell phone is what he said. He said, I took her cell phone and I told her to get out of my way that I just wanted my stuff and told her to leave me alone that I just wanted my stuff.
Pretty much he just goes into, I don't know whether he hit her with that pool stick, but he kind of emphasized swinging the pool stick. Okay. And then he emphasized being shot at five times. And then he said that he was waiting for the sixth shot because he knew it was a revolver.
Okay.
But when he heard the window open, he thought the lady was going out through the window. He ran in there and beat her with his hand and then stabbed her.
The story was sparse and patchy, but the details matched up. The broken pool cue, the five bullet holes in the wall, and the blood on the window.
Why was she shooting at you? But I didn't really want to question him because I didn't want to stop him from telling me stuff. Okay. Like, I'm interrogating him, you know?
Right.
So, and at the same time, I didn't really believe him.
Let's go back to what he was telling you, though. He says that, I guess, she shoots at him, he hits her, and it stabs her. Where does he say he stabbed her?
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Chapter 6: What was the state of Kim Dorsey's mental health before her death?
My lord. The lies. Melissa's car is the one he stole. Just in case you forgot. Oh, hey, Lance. What are you doing?
I've been asking the question since I got here.
Yeah, I know you have been.
Okay.
Well, let's go ahead and let's get to this next step here, okay?
Yes, all right.
All right.
You got to remember, I've talked to a lot of people. Okay. I spent all freaking day today talking to people. Okay. All right. And people talk. Okay. And people tell us things. Okay. All right. And I don't think it went inside the house, okay? And then it went inside the house. Well, yeah, okay. When we talk to people, we talk to a lot of people, we get a lot of information.
And then we look at our evidence, okay? Do you know how a cell phone works? Basically. Tell me how a cell phone works.
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