Is it a Greg Cote Monday? Confermaned. Dan begins the show by asking Roy how he believes Chris Cote is doing as the show's Executive Producer. That's leadership. Then, after a new song making fun of sleep farting, Dan has questions about how to determine the bonafides of news breakers as the people breaking the news continue to shift from old-school journalists to people with skin in the game. Is Greg Cote the king of a small kingdom? Does Mike's CanesInsight have better information than everyone else on the UM beat? Is Jai Lucas officially the next Miami basketball coach? And what does Gary Ferman have to do with all of this? Plus, Billy is the authentic and understated news breaker of the bunch, but Tony has some issues with Billy's lack of gusto within his reporting. Today's cast: Dan, Greg, Chris, Billy, Mike, Roy, and Tony. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: How is Chris Cote performing as Executive Producer?
Greg, this is probably something that I should be doing off-air in private leadership meetings, but I haven't asked anybody who works here how they think Chris Cody, your son, has been doing in the executive producer job. I'd like to do that now because of something that just happened that made me sort of shake with how different the leadership is around here now, now that he's been...
asserting his role. How do you guys feel, Roy, about how Chris Cody is doing being in charge, trying to grow into the role of Meadowlark executive?
Oh, very well. I thought it was more to that question, actually. I know you're going to put more of a context to that question, but I think he's doing very well.
That was quite the hesitation. That silence lasted 20 minutes for me.
Roy, I don't know what's happened with you lately, but recently, okay, even when I'm starting a sentence with Roy. and then there's a sentence, your genuine surprise that I'm going to you leaves you in a position where it seems like- You said my name, Dan. You have no idea what to say. And it's the opposite of what the job is when I start a sentence with Roy XYZ. No.
All you have to do is be ready for whatever that moment is. And it's rarely, I don't do this with anybody else. I'm not going around Billy and then this, this, this. I'm just looking at Billy. With you, I'm going directly at you and you seem like you're not ready.
No, I knew you were going to me because you said my name, but I was expecting more to the question. And I was listening to the question like, there's nothing more to this.
Okay, I better answer this now. In fairness, like Roy probably didn't wake up thinking he was going to be doing employee reviews for his coworkers.
That is a good point by you. But the reason I'm bringing it up, the reason is Greg didn't even hear this. As the door closed to whatever Monday promises, the last thing that Chris Cody, leader, said into the room was, also, I'm starting the show with a sleep farting song. That's the last thing I heard from your son's leadership.
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Chapter 2: What are the criteria for evaluating news breakers in sports?
We have to be more mature than this. No, we don't. We can't be funneling funds musically to that. That can't be what we're doing with the media money. I want to ask Greg Cody, because I'm thrilled that he's here. I'm always happy to see Greg Cody, lifelong friend, one of the longest friends I've had. Do not have many people like this in my life that have endured this long.
he is a long-time journalist hanging on to the end of newspapers and the end of his long-time career one of the longest in the history of the market why are you laughing just you know the whole idea of me hanging on you know by my fingernails i'm over a ledge but i'm i'm clawing to uh... keep from falling uh... okay so
tell me how i have it wrong because i want to have a media conversation with you as the media continues to change and ben writer is over here for cbs saying on the sides to compo is interested in the miami heat and watching the miami heat situation and over here you don't says on the saying on television come summertime kevin durant is leaving phoenix reporting is changing information is changing the way the people dissected who they give credibility to is changing
And I saw over the weekend that Mike Ryan broke the University of Miami basketball story. And I want to talk about changing media in your time, Greg, because there are very few information brokers out there whose information you feel like you can trust. I can name them, right? They're the handful of insiders where you're like, yeah, okay, I can believe that.
But I don't know what to believe anymore. Is Ben Ryder credible? Because he is to me.
He's been around for...
I know, but what are the measurements? If we're discrediting so much media, we're doing it larger outside of sports. But you assume Udonis Haslam knows what he's talking about if he goes on first take and tells you Kevin Durant is out. He's not Kendrick Perkins. He's not opining to get clicks.
Yeah, I mean, you could look at the outside and say he might be. He's got his own content venture. He's never really broken stuff. Unlike Kendrick Perkins, there really isn't a resume that you can hold up his credibility. Ben Ryder has a certain credibility. I think you have to take all that stuff into account.
It's dicey, though, in today's day and age of aggregation where your name won't go on a tile half the time.
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Chapter 3: How is Mike Ryan breaking news on UM basketball?
The reason that I bring all of this up, okay, it's inside the weeds on how you get your information, where you get your information. But before the show today, I heard the name Gary Furman. The bag? No. No. Billy, that's not helpful. It's not Gary the bag. You know who the bag is. Don't pretend like you don't know who the bag is.
I don't know who Gary Furman is. No, you don't know.
You don't know who Gary Furman is, and I'm about to tell you who Gary Furman is, okay? Please find a photo of Gary Furman for me. Gary Furman comes from... The golden age of the Miami Herald Sports section. Am I wrong here when I say that Gary Furman was one of the chief writers on a staff that would have been considered the best in America?
No. No, you're not right. Wow. I have known Gary Furman for decades. He's been a real survivor in this market doing a bunch of different stuff. He was never one of the top tier writers at the Miami Herald. Okay. I'm just being honest. And if Gary were right here, he would agree with me. Okay. But you were.
Forgive me.
Still am. Still continue to be. Of course, the staff is only like seven people now, but still. I'm the king of a small kingdom.
Are you writing your own headlines?
Yes.
And my own cut lines? Yes. Honestly, though, the fact that it was just someone's job to only do headlines, that probably could have always been.
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Chapter 4: What controversies surround Gary Furman's reporting?
No, and that's 100% accurate. I was at the Inter-Miami game the other night sitting next to Michelle Kaufman, who covers about three different major beats for the Herald. She's in the middle of an Inter-Miami game texting Dan Radakovich and texting other sources about this story.
Revealing sources.
Revealing their sources. Oh, well, Radakovich is the hurricane's athletic director. If you cover the hurricane, yeah, he's going to be one of your sources. So Radakovich, I'm not saying anything out of school. Radakovich essentially texts her back and says, yeah, but it hasn't happened yet. There's no deal in place, blah, blah, blah, that kind of thing.
So the story is real, but there are degrees of real.
All right, listen, Chris, this is where... Chris, you don't understand, okay, because you're so busy making sleep farting songs. You don't understand how to produce your father. And what has just happened is we have wandered, all of us together, into the glorious wheelhouse of Greg talking about journalism and the people in journalism and the end of newspapers and the end of information.
You see it changing all over the place. And I am legitimately asking the audience, Who are the people you actually trust on information? Because you're doing Cane Sport and Cane Insight. That's what we're talking about.
You're talking about information like how does an entity build the kinds of credibility that it needs so that it can be in the new media age something that competes beyond where the Miami Herald is because you're serving an audience that trusts you to actually be informed. The way the media is changing and sports information changes
I'm genuinely curious, people listening to this who love their college football information, why do you go to Kane Insight instead of Kane's Store?
Look, it was clear we had a very clear jump on this story. We had better information than anybody else. We often have better information than everybody else. And do we go into news-breaking mode all the time? No. Our approach is let's... really build our company on how plugged in we are. Sometimes it's not totally advantageous for us to be breaking news because we maintain our relationships.
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Chapter 5: How is digital media changing traditional journalism?
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Chapter 6: What insights does Greg Cote offer about journalism?
And you'll get an answer which is like, yeah, kind of, but the timing's not right. It's not official yet. And they'll just run with that as opposed to, as first reported by Cain's Insight. Because now we're 48 hours into this thing. Nobody's denied this. This is the case. The reporting is sound. This hasn't been confirmed yet.
You won't believe it until Furman's reported it? He should have that. This story, confirming.
It is a good move. That's not bad. That's a better way to handle if you get beat on a story to come out. Look, there's another lane here. You don't have to be the first one. You could just come back, and then if you've confirmed it, then that story is solid. Because you saying the Associated Press then reported it an hour later.
So it's basically just a bunch of people whispering in the information game, just whispering to each other, how do we do this? You want to do this correctly? I know it before you know it. Everyone, are we going to hold this? You don't want to hurt the program.
Don't want to hurt the program. Don't want to hurt Jay Lucas, who's got his life. You want to avoid what happened with John Shire press conference, which is facetiously or what have you, saying, well, this is the first that I'm hearing about it. There are sensitivities here that you understand, which is why you make sure you have all your loose ends tied up before you run with a storyline.
Can I stop you for just a second? And, Billy, I don't know how interested you are in getting into the weeds on this. You know.
I think you know.
You have this weekend, you again did something silently in the shadows because you do your journalism a little more quietly at FIU. And so I want to get into some of what you did quietly. Your last three events, you've gone with- Very little fanfare.
You don't even know because it's quiet news breaking. Yes, we'll get to it. Tony described as dry. It was super dry. Like, ChatGPT wrote that tweet. Like, Jesus Christ. Put some salsa. Put some sasong. It was a dangerous game that I was playing because I was expecting a talking to when I got there.
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Chapter 7: Why is FIU vs. UM baseball significant?
That was rudimentary. Basically. Wow. Known for not calling things by their name.
Okay. Can I? The elephant in the room is this, and no offense to Billy. It's great. If you're covering FIU, it's great to break that news.
I'm not sure I'm the one you want to start a war with.
Put it on the poll. Can it be a big story if it involves college baseball? I mean, we just spent 20 minutes talking about college basketball. I know, but college basketball is up here and baseball is down here. FIU baseball has never been huge. UM baseball stopped being huge a few years ago and still trying to get back up. So what should we talk about? The Lobos?
Well, you know, I mean, that's an international brand. A what brand? An international brand. The Lobos. Greg's Lobos. No, it's a big story, but my ears perked because if UM and FIU are playing in football again at Marlins Park, it's like, wow.
Greg. Great story. I understand. All right, look, I understand that you're the content king and you've got all the judgment about what we should be talking about in the local hour on a Monday.
Thank you.
But a University of Miami basketball team hiring a coach is a legitimate— Well, not hiring, being interested in a coach.
Well, no.
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