Lucy zooms into the show to FINALLY pay off her punishment from the Venmo #LucyChallenge, but Greg and Dan are both disoriented. Is Lucy going to the Super Bowl? Did she get an expensive Iguanadon costume? Why is David Samson on her side? Then, remember when Wayne Newton almost fell at our Super Bowl event last year? Plus, the Shipping Container wants to send Gabe to Radio Row, Jessica's 80-year-old grandmother found the show on her YouTube algorithm, and David shares his thoughts on the Myles Garrett trade request. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?
I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.
Lucy Rodin is smirking, I'm going to say mischievously, and that smirk generally creates fear in me, but also wonder, because she is a content creator extraordinaire, and now she has to do some sort of challenge in order to see if she's part of our late-rush army that we're throwing around.
at the Super Bowl we will get to her in just a second to find out whether she gets I don't know if she's ever been to New Orleans I don't know if she's been I don't know if she has been to Radio Row and seen the Stugatz experience but Lucy reporting on Stugatz would be fun content just following him around in the wild yes Lucy
Dan, you were with me last year at Radio Row. We were there together.
Okay, I don't remember. I don't remember anything that happened last year.
All of us together.
We sang songs. Yeah, I don't remember on Radio Row. I remember there. We carpooled. Downtown, yes. I don't remember. Forgive me. I forgot that I went and talked to the Goliks on Radio Row one day. I was there for 15 minutes, yes.
We carpooled, and on the car ride over, you talked to me about had I been to Radio Row before.
Lucy seems like a great carpool buddy. Like, if I was ever carpooling somewhere, I'd be like, Lucy, you're with me.
Oh, thank you.
Okay, put it on the poll. Does Lucy seem like a great carpool buddy? Let's go back into the other room, though, real quick, because I want to see what's happening with David Sampson trying to motivate Greg Cody to do better show. Sampson, what do you have?
I really have a problem right now, Dan, because I can't get Greg going. He told me just now that the whole break threw him off, that he's very concerned about his outfit, that he thought he was wearing a blazer. And what I've said to him very clearly is we've never needed him more than we do now as witnessed by the length of all of the break and all of the people not here.
So, Greg, one more time for you. Can you please get yourself together? I'm sorry.
This is elderly abuse.
Hold on. Okay, well, you did it very poorly. If the object was to hit him in the face, it's funnier if it makes a sound than if you just drop the microphone.
All right, I want to review the last 30 seconds to one minute of this show because Dan Levitard, the man constantly calling me disoriented, just betrayed himself as not remembering that he was on Sad Sad Radio Row slightly less than one year ago. That's the man calling me disoriented. Like I said before, I'm perfectly oriented. I've got nothing going on but love and best wishes for everybody.
If I'm given a chance to speak into a mic for five minutes in a row without being interrupted and admonished. But you have a button-down shirt on. It's a beautiful button-down shirt that my wife bought me. I've taken to wearing shirts over T-shirts lately. I don't know whether that's a thing. I don't know whether that's proper, whether people do that. What are you hiding? I'm not hiding anything.
Sores. The veins on his feet? No, I don't have open sores anywhere on my body, by the way.
Okay, we'll come back to you in a moment. Thank you. That's $5.
And if I did, they're not sores. They're jumping Charlie Cutts.
All right. Five dollars, please, for coughing into the microphone. This is Venmo fine bucket account. Because all of this is in play, the Venmo fine bucket, which is now going to be more vigorously enforced because of Lucy, because of Lucy and because of her refusal to pay a fine for killing somebody on the show and disrespecting the rules. does Greg now have the Venmo account on his phone?
Because he swore to us that his wife was, that Erlene was going to do that for him.
Yes, he's got it set up. I made payments for him. You know, we're still working on him doing it without anyone helping him, but it's on his phone and the payments have been made.
I will just say that some of this behavior around the fine bucket is self-destructive. Jessica, you were making, I'm going to say, hundreds of dollars there for a while when you had the contents of the fine bucket, no?
Not quite. It was more like 80-something, but it was still nice. I'm not complaining about it.
But I'm saying you got paid for the better part of two years every time you were getting fines all the time. Are you not counting those? It was just a total of $80?
It was not a lot of money, which leads me to believe maybe someone, again, pilfered from the fine bucket.
Yeah, we've got some problems, but now Venmo is now securing the entirety of the thing.
Venmo sponsors our bucket, and they also sponsor the Lucy Super Bowl Challenge presented by Venmo. So we've got to figure out here, what is going to happen?
All right, so we've been teasing this here for weeks. Lucy, where are you on whether you're going to the Super Bowl or not? You have to fulfill this challenge. If you do not fulfill the challenge, Greg, do you remember what the challenge was?
I do. It was Lucy dressing up as a dinosaur and walking through a mall. What kind of dinosaur?
I can't recall offhand. It was your dinosaur.
I wasn't even here that day, and I remember what it is.
You brought it up out of nowhere. It was the whole funny reason for the pit.
An uprightosaurus. No, of course I know what it was. It was an iguanasaurus.
You're the worst, dude. An iguanodon. You're the worst. An iguanodon. You already said it.
An iguanodon.
You understand the whole thing was born of that word being funny and coming out of nowhere. Yeah, it's a funny word.
Iguanodon. I could punch you right now.
Have you done this, Lucy? Are you going to do it? The challenge is you're going to dress as an iguanodon and walk through a mall?
Yes. So here's the thing. Here's the situation. I have had a great time on off-roading, potentially too great of a time. So I'm not permitted to make company purchases. So I was told that I would be getting an Iguanodon thing in the mail. And I did. And I went online and I looked and it was $900 for a costume. And I thought, hmm, even that's a little intense. So this is what showed up.
is this really janky Iguanodon t-shirt that I definitely didn't make myself. I would have never done that. I would have done a much better job. Perfect. Way to go, Lucy.
Lucy, I want to thank you because that's a very soft applause. I'd like to make it much stronger.
Thank you. Thank you. This is not a penalty to walk through a mall with a shirt that says Iguanodon.
Dan, I walked to get coffee this morning. Everyone was like, is that a band? What is on her shirt? Why is it not level? And why are the letters spaced out? It was incredibly embarrassing.
No, I'm thankful to you, Lucy, because you did it right. When you see that 900, you cannot proceed. You cannot spend that kind of money on some ridiculous venture by Cody. You get the shirt for $9.99 and you get yourself to the Super Bowl as...
Samson, I got McAfee giving away $100,000 for field goal kicks. I got Jay Williams going into his own pocket going $100,000 for half-court shots. We can't afford $900 on a costume?
If I thought that the juice was worth the squeeze and that $900 would actually generate any sort of attention, then I would think about it.
On Radio Row or in a mall where she's a content creator. She's an influencer.
We are being sponsored and paid for Lucy to do a challenge that is just as good in the T-shirt as it is in the $999.
That's ridiculous. No way. Her in an Iguanodon costume haunting Sad Sad Radio Row would be Super Bowl gold. You know, forget them all. The Radio Row thing, other podcasts would be interviewing her. She would be a sensation.
I want Lucy on Radio Row. This seems easy enough to fulfill. This is not the way to fulfill it. Cheap before going to the Super Bowl is not the way to do it. Do you remember last year's show? There was music. Wu-Tang Clan was there. We're going from that to we can't afford a $900 costume?
I do remember last year's show, and I remember the fact that I'm still, exactly, I'm dealing still with the budget reality of last year's show.
Yeah, that was expensive.
It was a nightmare, so you can forgive me trying to save the $900, which I'm trying to spread to the talent. Lucy?
Dan, I feel like you don't remember last year's show, because five minutes ago you asked me if I had been to the Super Bowl. Listen here, Iowa.
That's all I remember from last year is that and that Wu-Tang Clan mistake.
I remember when Wayne Newton almost fell and Tony saved him. Oh, my God. We had these high top bar stool type chairs, so he kind of had to get up on it, and the chair started going, and Wayne was going. We almost had a Wayne Newton falling on our stage, breaking a hip probably, and Tony stepped in. Caught the man with his right arm.
Yes, that is all correct. We were so close. You understand? On the floor near the pool of fragments and pieces and rubble of Wayne Newton just being on the floor. A Las Vegas icon. We could have killed him.
That would have gone viral.
It would have been death.
Would have been better for the show. No, really. I mean, Wayne Newton falling off a high chair. You can't do that. No, it would have been better. You can't do that.
Greg Stopliss.
You can't do that. I don't mean him injuring himself. You mean death. I just mean him taking a pratfall.
Oh, okay. So not actually killing him in pieces.
Of course not. I love Wayne Newton. Danke, Shane. Are you kidding me? Old men don't take pratfalls. Well, I take a pratfall. You're getting to the age where you can't be falling.
No, I fall. Greg, what do you mean you take a pratfall? The last time you took a pratfall, we monetized it for profit. Your son didn't sell enough T-shirts, and he produced a video of you falling in the bushes after drinking too many beers.
No, I've taken a pratfall since then. You have? Yeah, just a few months ago. Remember the face thing? My whole face was bruised. He doesn't remember that either. The guy calling me disoriented doesn't remember me having a bruised face and wearing a half a mask covering half my face just several months ago. But Wayne Newton pratfalling at Moss, Miami or Vega, whatever it's called.
It's become an unhealthy obsession.
the last 10 plus years and how is this still come on come on this he got sick there he had to have gotten sick in cartersville uh i don't know what to do about a ruling here because we're too late in the game and we're understaffed like lucy's gonna get to go whether she commits to the challenge or not like we botched this we have not gotten the penalty that we need to get here
But we've included her going, and it's sponsored, and the T-shirt is just fine. So I'd like you to move past it. The problem is you're stuck on this, as though we don't know that you're showing the Billy thing on a loop. Don't treat us like fools. Let Lucy go, and it's going to be fine.
Thank you, Venmo. Don't say bits on air, David.
We just went over this.
Hold on a second.
Oh, jeez, I hit the wrong button. Yeah, you have to, Samson, you have to get out of here, okay? Like, just...
We've got a penalty.
Five minutes.
Major asshole.
That was a joke we were going to be doing for three hours. You just shit on it. You just shit on that joke. We were going to do it for three straight hours where that comes in and you're like, hey, it's a loop, everybody. I'm the Ruiner of Fun.
Get out of here. See you later. You're disoriented today. You're hitting the wrong button.
It's still going? It's on a loop. Yeah, it's on a loop.
Asshole. We all need to take a deep breath. Everybody. Don't make me fine the entire company again.
Did anyone pay those? Yes.
A lot. Three people paid.
You fined the entire company $5. I diligently went in there and paid the $5. Who's keeping track of the Venmo fine bucket? Because it should by now. If everyone in the company has to pay $5, that's hundreds of dollars. We have a lot of employees. Including Gabe, who I just met.
Your math is not great.
Should we ask him what he thinks about the fine system?
Are you more aware of how many people we're paying than I am? Yes. Okay, because I don't think you are. And if I say $5 to everyone in the company and we're paying 100 people, that's $500. Like, if Chris is fining everybody in the company, that's a significant amount of money.
There's like four people out there, Dan.
The company is not just Gabe. Yes, there is nobody out there. The company all went to the Super Bowl. So Lucy's going to have to go, but we botched this. So what are you looking forward to doing there? Congratulations, I guess.
I worked so hard. This is so rewarding.
This is not the way to do this. Chris, are you upset that you're not going to the Super Bowl? Because we all did go last year. Now because Samson has to rein in the budget, we can't all go.
I got a little FOMO, but my liver is happy. I don't need New Orleans in my life. The Super Bowl, in my experience, is like I like everything. I got to work, but then I like to have fun. So you end up by the end of it, my voice is gone. I know. It's just to answer your question, I'm good not going. I had FOMO at the beginning of the week, but now I'm just like I'm tired.
I'm good. This sounds like cope. Yeah.
FOMO. No, I'm good. Have you ever had FOMO, Dad? I don't know what that stands for. Fear of missing out.
Okay. No, I didn't know it. I didn't know the acronym. I mean, does everything have to have an acronym? Can you just say four words in a row without coining a phrase for it? Come on. Exactly. Just say what the f*** and don't worry about what the acronym says.
Who was talking to you? Who are you saying exactly to? I'm looking at Chris, Jessica, and Jeremy.
Somebody said WTF. And you rolled with it.
Greg.
Where? I'm rolling like a big wheel.
Was it Gabe? Greg. What? This is what just happened. Okay.
Don't use the word disoriented because I'll bring up all the things you've done wrong.
Okay. Okay. But how would you just. That's a great point. Agreed. Agreed. But it's not because I'm distracted at all.
S-T-F-U, Dan. How's that? Got your ass. Stands for something. I don't know what it stands for.
What do you imagine it stands for?
I know what it stands for. Don't make me say it.
I'm not going to take a quiz or you know it?
No, I know what it stands for. I know modern acronyms.
FOMO is a modern acronym.
I know, but I'm a guinot. Just say what you're going to say and don't... Make a phrase out of it.
Lucy, what are you looking forward to at the Super Bowl? Are you going to learn from the master Stugatz, who I already see is getting into position? I have a camera here. He is in position, and you're headed out to meet him. What are you looking forward to?
I've never been to New Orleans, so I'm actually really just excited to go. I'd like to have a beignet. Maybe I'll get a beverage or two and make it appropriate since Venmo is sending me. And by the way, quick shout out to Venmo. They're my favorite social media app. That's where you learn all the good stuff that's happening.
Okay, so Stugatz, we're looking forward to what Stugatz is going to bring us soon. Do we know, have you gotten any reports? You're just learning, I guess you've got to go now, but you're just learning now that Billy has been knocked into a gutter, right? That part of our Super Bowl coverage has been derailed. Are you going to be on God Bless Football?
Maybe. I don't know. I will say, Billy, get well soon. However, really good news. Rose doesn't have to do as much work now and we get to hang out.
Okay, that's not good news. I need people working.
Oh, I think so. Okay, thank you. Well, us hanging out is...
work no and it's okay uh thank you for all your efforts uh thank you for saving the company money yes uh the billy gill is getting our uh coverage off to a rip-roaring start we are sending reinforcements uh did uh other people here have fomo anyone else here have fomo about the super bowl Jessica, did you want to get back to the Super Bowl?
Yeah, I think we all would have liked to go. But it was just in New Orleans like four weeks ago, so.
I would like to have gone for the first time. Yeah, you weren't invited to that one. Nope.
Yeah, you get your feelings hurt when you're not invited to things around here.
I just think you did it purposefully, and I thought that it was silly. You had everybody go. It was the biggest budget item of the year in the company. Everybody was there.
I mean, last year. Yeah, come on.
Name one person in front of a microphone who makes his living with metal work in front of a microphone.
Pablo.
Pablo didn't go. Pablo doesn't think of himself that way. He wouldn't lower himself to be a part of that. Wow.
Wait a minute. What? And you would?
One hundo.
Well, so you guys noticed when these podcasts, these stupid podcast awards came out that we are celebrating overzealously. You guys did notice that Pablo very much did say in a category that I don't understand, sports documentaries by podcast form, that he was the very fine French restaurant upscale and that David Sampson and God bless football are hot dog water.
that comparatively, that what they make compared to what he makes, you're telling me he was too... He didn't say the water.
Yeah, to be fair. He just said a hot dog stand.
No, but it was the inference. Look, I went straight to the water. Like, he went straight to the hot dog stand. Yeah, hot dogs are also delicious and can be award-winning, but it's not fine dining, and we all know it. And Pablo is lording over Hee Haw 3. Like, he's saying that what he does is more important than the artistic crafting that was Hee Haw 3 being a breakout band in Vegas?
Can I just jump in real fast? I'm sorry. I'm looking at our Radio Row feed, and it is just Radio Row in a nutshell. We're supposed to have Diana and Stu Gotts right now from Radio Row, and they are both behind the set just chumming it up. Yes. Just talking to people. They're supposed to be on air right now with us, and they're just both shaking hands, kissing babies.
Well, this is what Billy does, and he's out. Like Billy Wrangles.
Billy spends— Fuentes, get our talent!
Fuentes! Gabe has passed you in the company.
Send Gabe to New Orleans. I want Gabe in New Orleans tomorrow because Gabe would not stand for this.
Fuentes? No room in the budget. Fuentes, we need Diana Rossini. They are hobnobbers, the two of them. She's got a lot in common with Stu Gotts. She does. Oh, my God. She is. She... Her and Stugatz are something close to kinship, soulmates, and we will not find them because if there's a Golic around, we've lost Rossini and Stugatz for a while. Any kind of Golic, a Golic of any kind.
But Stugatz is trying to get something from them. Diana just genuinely likes people, but also wants information. So she, too, wants to get something.
Do we have a time zone issue? Is there a chance that Stugatz thought that it was 10 o'clock Central?
No, Samson, this is the experience. Please put it in picture in picture. We will have a live cam, and that will take the consequences of however Stugatz behaves. I heard in my ear, one of the reasons I was distracted during the first hour is because I just heard a stray, hey, Stugatz went for his morning breakfast of two heaters and a bottle of water.
And so I'm just hearing a stray from Radio Row as they get us uplinked. I've got people there, and this is Stugatz's life for four days. Nobody knows where he goes at night. He gets into some crevices, but during the day, he is for 12 hours nonstop, maximum hobnobbing at the top of the industry.
Classic. As you're saying it, Stugatz has now made his way out of our shot. Just, I don't know where he went.
This is not work to him. You guys got to understand, we are paying everybody to be Lucy in some form. Stugatz is also there to just enjoy himself and belch out content while just getting a hero's welcome because our podcast is popular. Because everyone loves them there, right? You have to understand what Radio Row is. It's a cacophony of the same noise making predictions about the same game.
So whoever there is in that place that is a little bit rebellious, a little bit rebellious about the nonsense that we do, they think Lucy and Stugatz are hobnobbing heroes. Stugatz will be slapped on the back by everyone who works there, except maybe Mad Dog, who lords over him. I think Stugatz is, maybe Jim Rome, too. Jim Rome goes with bodyguards.
Oh, God. Are you kidding? Are you sure? I'm positive, yes. Like, what do you mean? Like bodyguards. Whose sole job, not producer bodyguards, just bodyguard bodyguards?
Bodyguards, plural. Bodyguards, plural. Jim Rome has been dominating Radio Row for a long time. They bring him all the important guests and those guests who are celebrities because everything there is a piranha feeding frenzy. If Snoop Dogg is coming through... That person needs security to bring him to where Jim Rome is.
And Jim Rome himself uses that security to get around the building because if he has to go to the bathroom, seven people will grab him trying to get him to do something. Are they armed? I think so. Yes.
If I may change the subject quickly, I found out recently that my grandma has a YouTube addiction and she can't.
actually stop watching YouTube videos and she's gotten fed a lot of our videos in the algorithm and she just texted me and said is he really making fun of that older gentleman which I believe refers to you making fun of Greg so I think I think my grandma would like an apology on Greg's behalf she could mean either one of us I mean Dan's no spring chicken you know it's true I thought she meant me and it was a family thing with you and me what do you mean GTFO
She could be referring to either one of us. Yeah. Either. Because you've you've also you have locked horns with me today. You are done with being called disoriented. You don't like. Right. I can sense sometimes with you as my lifelong friend when it is that I'm landing on the wrong side of you.
And that's happened.
That's happened.
Look. You run a loose ship here. You're letting Rodin get away without, you know, go to New Orleans despite, you know, ruining the bet with the Iguanodon. You know, now you're kowtowing to Samson on financial matters. I mean, it's a loose ship.
It's delegated. It's stuff. It's kowtowing?
The longest two sentences I've ever heard in my life. With a K. Not enough people know that word. Does it have a hyphen? Does it not have a hyphen? There's some dispute there on countering.
Jessica, holy shit.
Grandma getting caught in the algorithm is a lot of fun. I also enjoy the idea because I've told you guys the stories about my 80-year-old grandfather where I asked him one time to answer a cell phone and I come into the other room and he was answering the television remote control. He didn't know the difference between the two things. A cell phone was something that was foreign to him.
I've also told you the stories of, like, showing my grandfather ESPN Classic, you know, the Jim Leyritz home run.
Like, walking by the television, he thinks it's a live game because he doesn't have any perspective and understands why his son is an expert or grandson is an expert because they say it looks like Wohlers is going to throw a pitch here that Leyritz is going to turn on and hit over the left field fence. That's what happens. My grandfather's amazed, coming from Cuba, doesn't speak English.
He's like, wow, my grandson, he knows so much about sports. The idea that we have an 80-year-old issue around here where people are, what are you smiling about, Samson? What are you laughing about? Because I love the idea of her grandmother getting stuck in a YouTube algorithm where she thinks Jessica is the biggest broadcast star in the world because all she's getting is videos from this show.
And television just becomes her daughter because I don't know at what point 80-year-olds don't quite understand what the technology is doing to them.
She's very with it, Dan. She just watches a lot of YouTube videos. This is going very wrong, Dan. And this is a great example of your elder abuse tendencies.
Ageism. I don't think.
Look, you guys are doing. Pat Riley is too old to do that job at 78. I'm not.
We love Pat Riley.
But wait a minute. We just got done with a bunch. Look, tell me where the line is here, because we've done it to two of America's leaders here. We've been making fun of a delirium that can happen at this age between 78 and 80 years old. I don't know. Yes, there are very. I don't. My fault for assuming that your grandma is lapsed into some form of senility.
That being said, I don't think she should run the heat either. But that's not because of her age. I don't think she'd be very good at it. Just like maybe Pearl Riley's not very good at it right now.
I might be wrong that I can assume that most 80-year-olds aren't dealing with YouTube.
No, her grandmother does not think she's a star, not a star because of YouTube and seeing her on YouTube. She believes her granddaughter is a star because all grandparents think their grandchildren are stars.
Not really in my family. You got to earn your stardom. I think my grandma can appropriately assess my level of success because she is not senile and she understands I'm on a big show. I'm not the title of the show, but I do very well for myself.
Can I close a loop from the first hour? My mom's mom's name is Mary Elizabeth.
That's your grandmother, Chris.
That's not a loop closure.
Did Greg get it wrong?
My bad. I asked my mom. I said, what's your mom's mom's name? My bad. I misspoke again. My mom's grandma's name is Mary Elizabeth. Chris.
Chris.
Mom's mom.
David's getting caught in the weeds here.
They're both Mary's.
Mom's mom's mom. Okay, they're both Mary's then.
Chris. Chris. Chris, you interrupted everything we were doing with an important mom alert that you then just delivered in a way that confused everybody. I'm confused.
It's his mom's mom's mom.
Your great grandmother?
Minor penalty, two minutes. Delay of show.
Out of here, Chris. Just get out of here. I don't know what you were doing there. Still wrong, Chris. I don't know why you were doing it. You can yell at everybody. You can take it up with everybody. Get out now, please. Thank you.
I think he was right.
Okay. You can leave with him then. Both of you can get out of here.
I'm going to call my gentleman. Minor penalty. Two minutes. Delay of show.
The thing that I wanted to ask Greg Cody and David Sampson in the business of sports that you guys have seen. Oh, I'm sorry. I hit it again. Minor penalty. Two minutes.
Delay of show.
That's fine.
I'll pay the fine. That's fine. Disoriented. I will pay the fine. I pressed it because I thought when I lost my executive producer that that sound wasn't going to stop. So I pressed it again because I had the cheering involved.
But I wanted to ask you guys, as people who have studied the business of sports, when you see, I'm going to call it the disloyalty of what Dallas just did to their biggest star, although you can call it just the evolution of teams trying to get a hold of the players on, if you're going to leave in a year and a half, we're not going to let you have all the control and everything.
Damian Lillard is going to try and shift it this way. And we're going to watch what Jimmy Butler does. And Luca, we're going to do this. Like if there's nothing else here, we're going to do this 18 months beforehand. So you don't go to the Lakers on us 18 months from now. And you get to leave as a hero.
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Don Levitard. Quiet man. Yes. You know, I'm a married man. I don't cheat on my wife, despite that gratuitous line back in my day. Stugatz. I wish you were here, my wife. I really miss her. No, I don't. That's the thing about being married. You know, you're not allowed to say, I don't miss my wife. I've been gone two days. I haven't been gone long enough to miss my wife. I'm sorry. I call her.
You just said you do miss her. I'm on the phone with her for 30 seconds. You know, what am I? Hello. All right.
All right. We'll see you. All right, and then, you know, I'm going to see her in two days. How's jumping, Charlie? Good. This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugats.
The news that I saw yesterday in football that results in one, Miles Garrett requesting a trade, which is not a normal football thing. I know it happened some, but usually in football, a player doesn't quite have the power to do that publicly and garner support the way Miles Garrett just did, which is like, okay, can that power come to football now?
But then also coldly I saw, and this, the business of this kind of was like, man, really? Cooper Kopp wants to keep playing for the Rams. The Rams announced yesterday, yeah, we're trading him. And Cooper Cup doesn't rip the organization, but just says, I'm highly motivated to get the next money on that contract.
And as I'm watching that happen, I'm like, OK, so Cooper Cup basically won the Super Bowl for that team. If you can have an allegiance to a region, he made Matthew Stafford this because in the Super Bowl, when they were down on the game winning drive, nobody in the stadium didn't understand that the ball was going to Cooper Cup and Stafford is throwing the ball to him with no look passes.
For that person and that memory to be so disposable at the end that Cooper Cup is now like, hey, see you later. Sorry if that hurts, but we've got Puka now and we can't have two of you because we understand the finances of the league.
It makes me long in some ways for the 1972 Steelers that were able to stay together and not have any sort of free agency because those teams could stay together for a while then build something that I would remember for a long time without having the ending be contaminated like this. When that should be a beautiful thing with him in that relationship with the city.
Like they did a beautiful, really hard thing together and did it on a body that has taken over. all of the abuse because those receivers play so physically that you're basically churning them through a wood chipper. Like Puka's body is gonna age really fast because of how physically those receivers play and Puka's job now replaces Cooper, takes his money.
And so at the end, what am I supposed to do with all of that when something is that cold of a business transaction in the age of the transaction?
You're supposed to not keep using a typewriter when there's a computer available. It is true that people long for the day of when a player would be on a team for an entire career, but those days have been gone for 40 years. I mean, the Robin Younts of the world are the exception, not the rule. And so stars change teams.
What shocks me about this is the position the GM took, Andrew Berry, who said, hey, give me two number ones. I'm still not trading him. I will not trade this guy. That's more GM malpractice. You've got to trade somebody if there's an overpay. And it seems like someone would overpay for Myles Garrett.
It's not only what is happening in the NFL and the NBA and everywhere else. When Miles Garrett sees what LeBron James was able to do and start a revolution of players under contract being able to steer their way out, and now you have pro players seeing the transfer portal in college where college players, you know, all of a sudden Carson Beck is with the Miami Hurricanes.
And if you're Miles Garrett, you're trying to get out of that hellhole, which is Cleveland. Why not leverage whatever you have? And despite what the general manager is saying, how can you keep him if he's blatantly unhappy not being there?
I don't want to be forced to trade a player because they say they're unhappy. The Marlins did it with Derek Jeter when Yelich said he was unhappy and they made a terrible trade. You cannot let players dictate whether you move them and taking an ad out in a paper and putting it in bold font and saying, I want to win a Super Bowl. It's not Cleveland to Canton. Give me a break.
David, yours is a bygone time, though. You're using old executive privilege there. The players have more power than that. Now, Miles Garrett can exert something over Cleveland. Like, you can say all you want. Organization has to ignore that he's unhappy. Not once he goes public with it. That's not the world we live in anymore.
The only power they have is what we give them. That's the fact. It's like blaming a player for signing a big contract. The owners decide to agree to the contract.
David, does it change in a capped sport versus a non-capped sport, though? Because if you're the Marlins, or any other team in Major League Baseball, Because they're unhappy? Yeah. If they're not going to play for you, if they're going to hold out, if they're not going to give you their max effort. We've seen literal examples of this over the last month in the NBA.
Literal examples of players who stop playing because they want to be moved. They stop playing well. Are we saying that Luka was feigning injury?
I'm saying Jimmy Butler.
Jimmy Butler has chosen not to play in order to get Pat Riley to trade him? Is that the position that he took?
The metrics were obviously supported that he wasn't trying very hard. By taking fewer shots? Just all of it. Just all of it. Running slower. It was obvious. It could be obvious to even the human eye. But what are you saying? Like, if that power is not an irrelevant one, the ability to just quit on your team.
I think most of sports would say that basically, if you don't want to be here, we don't want you here. Like... The way that those locker rooms unite around whatever it is that they're doing, he'd have turned on Jimmy Butler. Those are real friendships that have been fractured by what's happened over the last three weeks. Those were real, hey, we shared those memories just a couple of years ago.
Oh, you're gonna throw those away? Those relationships are legitimately hurt. They don't want him around.
Do you think it's a coincidence that all of the guaranteed portion of Miles Garrett's extension in 20 are finished and now he's into the unguaranteed part? Do you think there's any part of this where he's trying to get guaranteed money? Yes, of course. So then what are you talking about? This is all just posturing by Miles Garrett that he's hiding under the I want to win a Super Bowl.
And you're going to guarantee that you're going to win a Super Bowl because you're traded? I was thinking about this on Nothing Personal. What's the list for Andrew Berry? I'll take from you guys. What's the list of where he should be traded? Chiefs?
I don't know which teams have the cap space for it, but it might not be a guarantee that wherever he is traded wins a Super Bowl, but it is a guarantee if he stays in Cleveland, he will not. That's how bad the situation is there.
There's a lot of bad. I happen to totally agree that the Cleveland Browns with Haslam and Watson are finished, although Watson, I think, is likely finished. But you can't. Giancarlo Stanton did this to us. He said, I want to win a World Series. I won't go to the Cardinals. I won't go to the Giants. I want to go to the Dodgers or Yankees. Went to the Yankees a long time ago. No ring yet.
It's a lot harder than you think. So we don't allow a player to just say, I want to
No, but look, I don't know what will happen here. I don't know what the Cleveland Browns' statements will be about what they do. I do assume that once this salvo has been fired, he doesn't want his guaranteed money in Cleveland. He wants his guaranteed money, and he'll get it because he's at maximum leverage. He's the most fearsome thing that there is, and he's done the impossible.
He has made Greg Cody rise from the old days and write the old newspaper column in the Miami Herald, Miles Garrett. It's a column Zaslow's been making fun of Greg Cody for 25 years. Greg Cody was called by Taylor and told that that was a good column. It had slipped, it had slipped, what? It had slipped his attention.
I had a feeling that was coming. I did not write the column because Taylor told me to. I was writing something else when Christopher called me and says, hey, Taylor says this and this and this. I had not heard the Miles Garrett news yet, okay?
When I was done, the other thing I was doing, and I found out that Miles Garrett was saying, hey, trade me, I absolutely would have written that column without a prod from anybody else. Wow. No credits. for Taylor and I. No. In this case, no.
When somebody like Miles Garrett says they want to be traded and I think there's a plausibility that the Dolphins could be in the market, I'm going to write that call.
You're saying you didn't know he wanted to be traded. Did you know or did you not know?
I didn't at the time that he told me because I was writing something else. I was concentrating on something else.
You detour based on Chris and Taylor and will give them no credit for giving you the column that made you not write the previous column.
This is exhausting. No, I wrote the previous column and then I went to Miles Garrett.
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And this year, I'm partnering with 1-800-Flowers to make sure you're a Valentine's hero with an exclusive offer for my listeners. Double the roses for free. When you buy one dozen, they'll double your bouquet to two dozen roses. It's the perfect way to say I love you without breaking the bank. Trust me, 1-800-Flowers always delivers.
In the Levitard Studios, we received a beautiful arrangement of long stem red roses accompanied in an hourglass red vase. They're timeless, luxurious, and romantic. A must-have this Valentine's Day. And seeing and smelling the freshness of that bouquet as I walk into work every day has me prepared for any hate that Dan may throw my way.
To claim your Double Your Roses offer, go to 1-800-Flowers.com slash Dan. That's 1-800-Flowers.com. slash Dan.