DeepSeek has everyone freaking out; we'll look at what's legitimately fascinating, what bits have been an overreaction, and the big mistake that made this all possible. Plus, there's some bad news for Java fans.
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This is Coder Radio, episode 605 for January 28th, 2025. Hey friend, welcome in to Jupyter Broadcasting's weekly talk show. Taking a pragmatic look at the art and the business of software development and the world of technology. Over there checking his charts, it's our host, Mr. Dominic. Hey Mike. Hello. Hey handsome.
Are you hodling, I guess, your investments as the stock market crashes around us?
I'm so dramatic. It's fine. It's really fine. Amazing panic, though. CNBC was on fire yesterday.
I had it up in the background just as I worked, just for the fun. I love it. I love the panic. But while all of that was happening, the news about a Java survey that was done around 2,039 Java professionals globally came out, and nobody noticed because we were all talking about NVIDIA. So before we get into everything that happened, Just a quick little detour here.
This report, which I'll have linked in the show notes, it titles itself bravely The State of Java in 2025, put out by Azul, which is a firm that focuses on Java. They report that 88% of companies are contemplating leaving Oracle Java. 88% of companies are thinking about this. Two years ago, as you might recall, we talked about this, Oracle shifted their Java licensing model.
And they went from something that was actually affordable to something that's absolutely ridiculous. And so 42% of the customers surveyed cited the new costs as a reason. 40% cited they wanted to move to open source solutions, which is huge in my opinion. 37% were just discontent and pissed off by Oracle's sales practices.
36% were uncertainty around licensing changes, and 33% were restrictive Oracle policies. But 88% of companies are considering leaving Oracle Java. They also cite cloud expenses for their Java workloads as being more expensive than other types of workloads. You think this is legit? I don't know why. It doesn't ring true to me for some reason.
I mean, like, you can be really discontent with something in the enterprise and continue to use it for a decade.
Yeah. I mean, especially if you're using, like, legacy Oracle Java, it seems like it'd be a pretty big lift.
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