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The Big Suey: The Show With The Regional Legend

Thu, 06 Mar 2025

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Chapter 1: What makes 'The Big Suey' different from other podcasts?

49.414 - 63.626 Show Announcer

Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

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63.766 - 70.171 Dan Le Batard

I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.

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70.372 - 77.458 Show Announcer

That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.

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Chapter 2: Who is involved in the Poppy Challenge?

78.522 - 100.111 Dan Le Batard

In a few days, we're going to put on for sale and give you all of the information on this Poppy Challenge. We've got Poppy coming out of retirement. We're going to have a few people come out of retirement. Poppy's mad because the artists are taking liberties with his body. He says it's not his, but my mother and I say it is his body.

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100.191 - 106.634 Dan Le Batard

But there's no way of knowing who the NFL legend is that he's going to challenge in Domino's April 13th. It's Hawk.

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107.574 - 112.917 Andrew Hawkins

No, not a Bones player. Could have told by the outline.

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Chapter 3: Is Andrew Hawkins considered an NFL legend?

112.957 - 114.198 Amin Elhassan

Not a legend either.

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114.218 - 116.099 Andrew Hawkins

Ooh, that hurts.

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116.159 - 117.06 Amin Elhassan

Don't want to wait a minute.

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117.12 - 118.641 Andrew Hawkins

I'm a legend to a lot of people, Dan.

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118.701 - 122.763 Amin Elhassan

Hold the hell on. We're not going to do this. Do you remember that first touchdown pass he caught?

122.863 - 133.049 Andrew Hawkins

Thank you. Can we tee it up? Do we have that on tap? Because clearly, I don't think you realize the pioneer that I am. To sub-5'9 football players.

133.169 - 150.776 Dan Le Batard

I don't believe. Okay, so you're making a qualification that I was not making. Because if it's a legend to 5'9 football players, if it's an amusement ride and I have to stand and be this tall to get on the ride, then I will allow the fact. And I don't mean it as an insult to say.

150.816 - 155.438 Andrew Hawkins

Look, man. I'm insulted right now. I'm insulted. Why wouldn't I be an NFL legend?

155.618 - 155.818 Amin Elhassan

Yeah.

Chapter 4: How is free agency shaping the NFL landscape?

209.391 - 212.294 Tony

But Hawk is a legend. We need to go into that.

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212.354 - 221.425 Mike

All decade team for the Browns. He's better than Devon Bess. And everyone in town loved Devon Bess. He's a luminary.

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221.465 - 238.242 Amin Elhassan

Let me put it this way. If someone asks me, I mean, name good Browns players ever. First one is Jim Brown, obviously. Well, this is clearly the standard we should all be using. I'm just saying. Jim Brown. Miles Garrett. Antonio. Joe Thomas. Kevin. Hawk, number four. Probably.

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238.342 - 242.606 Mike

Mount Rushmore. I feel like I insulted you by invoking Vaughn Best.

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242.626 - 243.487 Amin Elhassan

Yeah, that was good.

243.727 - 253.076 Mike

No, you were really good for the Browns. Thank you. You were. He is a luminary. And also, he stuck around the franchise. He had an opportunity to go to New England. He's like, no, I like the bad shit.

253.116 - 253.397 Amin Elhassan

Come on.

253.897 - 256.739 Mike

I'm going to start a podcast with Joe Thomas because I like the bad shit.

256.799 - 279.25 Amin Elhassan

I like chaos. No, no. I operate great in chaos. Also, you know what? Culture starts with dances. You love that word so much. It starts with someone saying, I'm not going to run when things get hard. Come on now. I'm staying right here. That sounds legendary to me, Dan. Him and Joe Thomas said, hey, it'd be easy to, oh, go join the Patriots, be bandwagoners, win rings and stuff. No, no.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of DK Metcalf's trade request?

459.888 - 477.231 Dan Le Batard

Let me talk to you about this Minnesota situation because they got unmasked in the playoffs the way we thought they would get unmasked with Darnold being Darnold. Yes. Not totally fair to have a road game after they've had that kind of season. And fires made things complicated. It was in Arizona, their road game. Yes.

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477.271 - 478.994 Mike

They were playing a team not from Arizona.

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479.375 - 500.338 Dan Le Batard

And so when I present to you the idea of... If the Vikings were to do it what has been the more traditional way before the rookie quarterback you needed to get value in the first three years out of him, when they fast-forwarded all these curves, wouldn't the way the NFL would have done this at any time previously in his history is you get Sam Darnold for two more years and you allow J.J.

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500.378 - 514.329 Dan Le Batard

McCarthy to work his way into the position over three years? Like, that's how we would do it. That's how Aaron Rodgers did it under Brett Favre, right? Not that they're the same person, but... But once you draft McCarthy, the finances of it are such that you need to play him, correct?

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514.369 - 528.804 Andrew Hawkins

Yeah, and I agree with that take. I actually think they should let Sam Darnold walk, which is crazy because he had the season that he had, and you don't typically see a quarterback here for the agency that had that kind of year. But when you look at the Minnesota Vikings, if I am them, I'm looking at Kirk Cousins,

529.184 - 550.29 Andrew Hawkins

And I'm looking at Sam Darnold, and I'm looking at them, Sam Darnold previously, and also Kirk Cousins after he left. And I'm going to say, I think I have the guy in KOC that can get me the max amount of production from J.J. McCarthy under this system like I've done with the other two quarterbacks. There's not going to be a plethora of people lining up for Sam Darnold.

550.63 - 561.02 Andrew Hawkins

It's going to be quarterback-needy teams, but there's still going to be the, uh... We've seen him in other situations. And the same goes for Kirk Cousins. I think you take advantage of that rookie contract so you can continue to build the roster around him.

561.04 - 579.612 Dan Le Batard

I think the Minnesota Vikings are more valuable to a quarterback than Sam Darnold is to a team. Exactly. The skill people Minnesota has, like, I would think someone like Kirk Cousins would be like, get me back there, please. I don't even know what, I don't understand what happened with Kirk Cousins last year, where the GM is like, I didn't know his arm was hurt.

579.772 - 593.477 Dan Le Batard

And he falls off being able to throw a football nine games into the season. And we're all like, how is that a noodle arm all of a sudden? I want to be the quarterback in Minnesota. I would think that Minnesota is more attractive to quarterbacks than Sam Darnold is to teams.

Chapter 6: Is Tyler Lockett a legend in the NFL?

760.437 - 763.06 Dan Le Batard

I could throw a bubble screen, just a quick bubble screen. No, it would be pick six.

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763.08 - 782.242 Andrew Hawkins

That's a big bubble. Okay, as an NFL legend, I can promise you, you will not complete a bubble screen. All right. Number two, what Sam Darnold has, because, you know, I don't want to position him just as a pedestrian. Like, yeah, he's not lived up to the expectation. And that is how you judge players from where you came in your expectation, how below or above you get to that.

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782.742 - 791.531 Andrew Hawkins

Last year was the first glimpse we saw him above. But he has the tangibles whenever you're drafted top 10. You have the physical tools to be elite.

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792.011 - 805.901 Andrew Hawkins

And that's what he showed that to your point, when you mix that with great offensive strategy and a coach who understands quarterbacks and how to maximize it, you take advantage of that elite level talent that not every quarterback in the NFL has just because you're there.

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806.021 - 812.667 Amin Elhassan

Hold on, you're telling me that Dan can't hike and just throw a quick pass out? No, absolutely not. I think he could do that. Now, he might get killed.

813.768 - 832.745 Dan Le Batard

Both things will be true. He will be killed and it won't be completed. Okay, so listen to me. You're correct, Andrew Hawkins, that Sam Darnold, was he drafted sixth? He's got a skill set that would get you drafted within the top six drafts. Third overall. All right, third overall. So that skill set is not up for dispute.

832.945 - 849.416 Dan Le Batard

I'm just saying that there are a lot of quarterbacks that I can grab from any pile of top three picks who haven't had success, and I can do with them what Sam Darnold has done because my analysis is not unlike these announcers who were calling the playoff game and had it all figured out from outside the pocket. He's home!

852.455 - 860.405 Mike

Blue cheese. Blue cheese. Red velvet. Red velvet. I'm doing a thing, Dan. No one out pizzas the hut.

862.547 - 868.054 Tony

No one out pizzas the hut. That's damn good. Look, look. That's damn good, Mike. Did you say look?

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