Stugotz and Billy close out Super Week with a conversation with Bomani Jones. Bomani talks about getting older, how he found out his place compared to Stephen A. Smith at ESPN and why he loves New Orleans. Dianna Russini joins them to talk about schmoozing and Sarah Spain also stop by. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the significance of Super Bowl Sunday for the hosts?
God bless football, Billy Gill. God bless football, Mikey A. God bless football, Stugatz. Guys. Yeah? It's Super Bowl Sunday. Oh, it's here. It should be on a Saturday. I mean, it's ridiculous. Why are you shaking your head? This is sad.
I'm happy it's here, but I'm sad because it's officially over. Because you love football. No one loves it more. Today's the day that it all comes to an end.
Does it?
For a few days, and then we get free agency.
Yeah. And then the draft. The Saints don't need a coach today. The Combine.
They'll have one tomorrow.
Will they? Yeah. That's a Monday announcement you're saying?
Well, maybe if there's a parade in there, maybe somebody will delay it a day, but they'll have one.
Yeah. Did you enjoy the week, Billy, out in New Orleans?
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Chapter 2: How do the hosts reflect on the Radio Row experience?
Yeah, I mean, it's a business trip for me. That's why I came suit and tie.
Right, plus you love football, yes. Yeah, I love football. Yeah. It's funny. You were walking around Radio Row, and people, you know, they're asking you all week, you know, I heard you say you love football, you love football more than anyone, and they were challenging you, saying, no, I love football more than you. People were saying that to me. You didn't hear it. And I laughed at them.
No one loves football more than you.
That's exactly right. They thought they were going to ruffle my feathers, but I was unruffled because it was a ridiculous claim that they love football more than me. Everybody knows it's not true.
Stugatz, can we do something next year or by next year? And by we, I mean you. Can we get Billy promoting something on Radio Row next year? Because I would love to see Billy going up and down making the rounds. Yes. Pitching something. I think that would be awesome.
What are you thinking, though? Football? Just football. You should promote football. Because he loves it so much. You should promote football next year.
I would love to promote football. But, like, I would also really love to just get a product. Yeah. And any question, I'd be viewed as probably the worst guest ever.
The worst.
Hey, look, Austin Eckler's over there. I'd be viewed as the worst guest ever, but I would just be promoting the product, and I would not ever veer off of the message that we were trying to get across of the product.
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Chapter 3: What unique promotion ideas do the hosts have for Radio Row?
If you give me a product that I can just talk about, I would love that.
Would that be the number one product? Would it be baby wipes? What would be the number one product? Billy Gill to promote on Radio Row. I'm going to try to make this happen.
Not baby wipes. Yes. Because I feel like at least my current situation, I'm on the way out on the baby wipes, the diapers game.
You know what I mean?
So I feel like I missed my diaper window.
Right.
A diaper endorsement would do nothing for me right now.
Two years ago would have been fantastic. Oh, my God, Pampers. So now fast forward to the next stage of your children's life.
Now, Pampers, if you're coming in with an endorsement and we're going to get free diapers.
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Chapter 4: How does Bomani Jones view aging and career milestones?
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an old friend and a friend of the show. He's not old, I'm old. Belmonte Jones is with us here. Nah, brother, I'm pretty old too.
I had a moment yesterday where I met a young woman. She's an up-and-coming reporter and she went to my alma mater. And she asked me when I graduated and I said 2001 and I did a quick hit of math that indicated I don't think she was born. And then she's like, you know, so people know this is kind of a fun joke. Stu Gatz went to Clark University. Yes, I did.
I went to Clark Atlanta University, which is like the difference between Somalia and Samoa. They sound very similar, but they're actually vastly different. It used to be Clark College and then it was Clark College and Atlanta University. And they merged. And she asked me if I went to school before they merged. They merged in 1988. Yeah, and I'm just trying to figure out how old do you think I am?
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Chapter 5: What challenges did Bomani Jones face with his HBO show?
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I was in North Carolina. People were talking to me in the hotel on the street. And I was like, why are these people? That's right. Yeah. In most places, civilized people talk to each other. They're nice about it.
Yes.
Yes.
The Right Time with Bomani Jones. Check it out wherever you get your podcast. You're enjoying that, man. How long ago did you start that podcast?
I started the podcast seven years ago as a radio show was started 10 years ago. We started that right when you guys went to the midday shift. So it's just wild to think that that was 10 years ago. Again, I got to stop using numbers. It's not helping my self-esteem. But no, the pod, it's cool. It's still rolling. I got to find me something else to do. But in the meantime, it's still rolling.
What do you want to do? Something else. Well, no, the thing I tell people is that I got to do Game Theory on HBO for two seasons, and it was literally the dream job. It was like, what happens when your culmination of life's work comes and you're 42? Like, I got to find something else that feels like something, kind of charges.
That was the first time I recall that I did something that I wasn't sure, oh, I got this. Now, granted, some of the things I was like, I got this, I didn't have. But it was like, you know what? I need to try something. I'm going to do something that has the potential to go catastrophically bad. Right. Like nobody else had made the format work. I appreciated the challenge of getting to do that.
And now I got to find something else that's kind of challenging. So what do you do after you've reached your dreams? That's a great question.
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Chapter 6: How does Bomani Jones compare to comedians in a talk show format?
So, you know, we just had all these things go. And so I felt like I got it done. And when it ended, I didn't feel bad at all. It was like, what are you talking about? Why would I look at this through the standpoint of an ending as opposed to what it really was, was I got two years of this. I don't own this. Nobody took anything from me.
Two years of your dream. Yeah. Every year was an opportunity. Right.
And so for me, it was great. But then it becomes like, all right, man, I got to get something that comes close to that again.
Right.
Like I got cool with Ta-Nehisi Coates over the years. And what I admire about him is. He's done comic books. He's done novels. He has done things, by his own admission, that could have gone wrong, but he needs that. He needs that feeling that this might not go, because otherwise you're not pushing yourself to the place that you want to be.
If you were given more time, do you think you would have made that show work in the way that you really wanted it to work? Or did you arrive there already? I think we could have gotten better. I think that we were largely in the places that we wanted to be, but I would have gotten better. Like... I am not a comedian.
Like, when I first had the meetings with the people about it and I looked at their deck, the way I sold them on the show was I was like, look, man, this deck is for a comedian. I am not a comedian. Right. But I am the person for this show. And so it was a matter of learning how to bridge the gap.
And so I'm working with all these stand-ups who write for the show, and I got a coach that comes in and helps me. And I was improving at what we were doing because, like, we did – 16 episodes of Game Theory. That means I had the opportunity to do that literally 17 times. A test shoot, and then you can't do an episode without turning the clock on. So the only episodes are the ones you see.
So that means there's no practice.
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