After reviewing the film from yesterday's Game 1 loss, the crew gets back on track by tush pushin' through a conversation about NFL rule changes. Today's cast: Domonique Foxworth, Andrew Hawkins, Chris, Billy, Charlie Kravitz, and Mike. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: How did the team react to their Game 1 loss?
All right, we back to the Dan Levitard Show. Sans Dan's, me and your boy Hawk in the building. We had a couple changes to the shipping container. Jessica's not here today. Roy's not here today. But for game two, we're bringing a big dog in. Yeah, we need it. One of everyone's favorites. Look at him, locked in. Locked. With the glasses on. There you go, a chess pal from Billy Gill. What up, Billy?
Welcome to the show, buddy.
Let's go with his own intro music.
Hey, guys. Yeah, we got to flush. We got to flush. We 24-hour rule. We flush game one. We on to game two. We came to get a split. Let's get a split. We need Big Dog Billy in the building to get the split.
How is game one? Because I just said, oh, I saw you guys had Keenan.
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Chapter 2: What are the upcoming topics for this episode?
We got to flush. We got to flush game one. We got to flush. We got to review this. So 24 hours. We already reviewed it. I reviewed the film last night. Not technically 24 hours. It's like 21 right now. But just the 24-hour rule is what it's called. I mean, we could go through it if you want to. I reviewed the tape. I think Billy needs context so that he knows what to bring to game two.
So first of all, before we get to that, at some point we're going to get into some draft stuff today. We're going to refresh the Uber ratings because we got some. The big tease, we got a means rating, guys. Get ready. So we're going to update that at some point. I got a story for you guys about my racist cat. All this is going to happen.
We're also going to discuss the tournament and the tush-push rule. But before we do that, this is the last. We do the little film session right now. This is the last time we talk about it. If you want to go into it, my assessment of yesterday's show was we got off to a good start. We were great. We got a big lead. Great start.
We were feeling good, and then they brought out a defense that I wasn't ready for. And as the point guard, I got flustered by the defense. I was like, what are we doing? Guess?
Uh-oh. Turnover, turnover, turnover. To back guess.
They were ugly turnovers.
We didn't take a timeout. We didn't regroup. We didn't huddle up. Nothing. It was... If you can't stop... the opposition from scoring, take the time out, coach. That is like coaching 101. You don't just let it continue.
As we discussed yesterday on the Dominique Foxworth show, me and Charlie have a thing where we say accountability plays. And you have to be very accountable when you mess up. And I accept that yesterday, I was fooling myself. I parachuted in, and we got off to a great start, I thought. Chris was balling. We did the intros. We had some good topics. We was laughing. We had that thread of Leroy.
You hooked us up with that. We was going. I was like, man, I'm in this. This is easy. Hit it to my man in the corner. Hit a wide open three. Fast break. Boom. Great defense. Rebound. And then they started throwing yes at me.
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Chapter 3: Why is the 'tush-push' controversial in the NFL?
Hold on, one second. In Mike's defense. I thought we burned the tape. In Mike's, we got to do a, we got to bury it. We got to bury it like Rex Ryan did back in the day when he buried the ball. In Mike's defense, I was the point guard and I clearly couldn't point guard anymore. So Mike was trying to. Chris, what do you got?
That was another thing he kept doing.
Chris, you have a question for the guest? Mike definitely tried to bring the ball up the court. Chris, it is now your turn to ask a question of our guest. Please, sir. I refuse to use the backroom communications.
I want it on air. Mike was definitely an old, like a 90s five. Not like a today's, not like a Jokic. And Mike was like, you know what, I'm putting it on my shoulder. He brought the ball at the court and pulled from the logo and it went way over the backboard.
But hand up, I got to know my teammate. Terrible entry pass. I brought up Jim Laranega. Mistake. Just derailed the show right there. You got to get it to Mike at his spot. Just feeding Michael Sweetney right there in the post, man. Don't take every shot, buddy.
He's still going at it, this guy.
He was so sure about that play call. No, I'm sorry.
For the love of God, anything but that.
No more Laranega talk. Now, look, I will say what they always say. Yes, 24-hour rule, but they also say the tape is never as good as you think, and it's never as bad as you think. And I don't think... the game film was as bad as we thought it to be when we left the game because somebody asked Kenan Thompson that question yesterday, and he answered it somewhere, and it ended up on Variety.com.
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Chapter 4: Should the NFL change rules about the 'tush-push'?
He went for comedy instead of for journalism.
Yeah. Which I'm okay with that move with the comedian. It was a decision. It was a choice.
A poor one. I think his response was, this is what happens when Dan's not here.
Yeah, for sure. Which is like his biggest mistake, thinking that it would be less awkward with Dan in there. But, you know, when you're starting a series on the road, you really just want to take away home court advantage.
I mean, we all had our down. No, no, no, no.
So, like, if we take game two, we got home court coming back for game three. So let's focus on one game at a time. Game two is right there in front of us. We know where we went wrong. And, I mean, even though the vine, the Jim and Larry Nega vine is right there, we're not going to take it.
It's rare in the first quarter of this game two. We're like, can you guys believe that game one? That shit was crazy.
No, I was trying to start game two, and you guys wanted to do an assessment. And one thing I'm not going to walk away from
is some good open criticism of me let's dive into so we good is it all out on the table i did i did say two up two down and i feel like we glossed over that we even forgot about that and i also want to i want to raise my hand with accountability there you go especially as one of the only two blacks in game two to say i i am ashamed of myself i will be better today yeah i mean two black people's not enough we gotta get another black person i i hey carl
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of using oversized players?
We're just going to give them six points. Which is, come on, man. We should have made a bigger deal about that as a society. What the hell are we doing? Who gives you the right? Who gave you the authority to award touchdowns for plays that aren't touchdowns in the conference championship game?
Wow, thank you, Tush Push. We had no idea that a ref could do this. What? I mean, it was such an exciting, captivating moment that we found out that the ref can do that.
To answer your question, the NFL bylaws and rule book give you the right to do it? There's no way that's legal. It is legal. I've never heard of that ever in my history of life. So, I mean, I guess you have to take it out to the most extreme is if they just continue to jump off sides, the game would never end.
So the ref has to have some sort of power at that point because no time runs off the clock. The ball moves a smaller fraction of an inch every play. Like, if we're talking about ending this game and having a game, if you're in that situation, the refs have to have some sort of recourse, right? No. I don't believe so. So you want that Bill Belichick to be like, you know what?
We're going to jump off sides until tomorrow. We're going to have a war of attrition. It's the only soul.
See who gets hungry first.
soon enough who loses more in commercials by continuing to keep this play going it was it not the most effective we've ever seen against the tush push it was but it's in that two minutes it's a it's a quarterback sneak like i don't understand like just because it looks a little different than your conventional quarterback sneak we're gonna outlaw it then outlaw the quarterback sneak so and the argument is it doesn't look like football it looks exactly like football to me a little like rugby
Yeah, it looks a lot more like football.
McVay was like, it's not because they're good at it. It just doesn't feel like football. All right.
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Chapter 6: How effective are current NFL strategies against specific plays?
And I think Mike is right at this point. The tush push doesn't bother me as far as entertainment quality. There is some suspense to it. But I do think that it encourages us to a version of football that we don't like. Because if the rules aren't going to make it so you can't do it anymore, then the coaches and general managers have to design plays and draft players in order to stop it.
And I think that sends us in a path that's less fun.
to watch it's getting stopped i mentioned that there are two teams that are really good at it the other ones of buffalo bills famously in their conference championship game they got stopped now it might have been a controversial call but it wasn't the only time in that game in a short yardage situation buffalo lined up and casey was ready for it i think teams just got to get better at it and i did think towards the tail end of the season you started seeing teams find ways around this
Ironically, one of the best teams at it is the Arizona Cardinals with tiny Kyler Murray. So it's like we talked this all day, like every single discussion is like, well, Jalen Hurts squat 600 pounds. Yeah. Now, five foot nine quarterback.
I mean, I've seen Kyler Murray run the ball. I'm not sure that he doesn't also squat 600 pounds. Good point. That dude's got some power.
He's probably all thighs, actually.
But it goes to people make the argument, like, if you don't like it, you stop it. Like, it's a manly thing. Like, my pushback from the defensive perspective is, why y'all got to push? If we want to do a quarterback sneak and you want to go mano a mano, your centers and guards against ID tackles and linebackers, then do it. Tell Saquon to get his big quad ass out of there and stop pushing.
It's not as if Mekhi Becton ain't big enough. Like, I want to see that. That, to me, feels like... a fairer matchup and a more interesting and a less lopsided play.
Should a team draft Desmond Watson, the 464-pound defensive tackle from Florida, one of the NFC East teams, just for tush-push situations?
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