The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Who The F*** Is Willy? (feat. Ron Magill)
Tue, 25 Mar 2025
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Chapter 1: What is the history behind tequila?
Now's a good time to remember where tequila's story truly began. In 1795, Cuervo invented tequila. Cuervo. What are you doing here?
Cuervo. Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.
Cuervo.
Cuervo.
This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast.
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Chapter 2: What did the hosts think about the recent Michael Jackson musical?
Zaslow and I, lest you say that we are uncultured heathens, recently went to a musical. Not together. I don't know why I was so quickly defensive about that. God forbid. I'd love to go to a musical with you guys. You have to understand the reason I said that is because you dress like this. Oh. What's wrong with this? For a musical? Was it a heat musical? It was a Michael Jackson musical. Oh, boy.
What did they talk about? Well, to me, you say that, and that's one of the things that I found amazing about the entirety of the experience. Because it was simply amazing. But the idea that music and talent, that one of a kind, never to be duplicated, would make it so that an auditorium would fill with people because the music was so good.
sort of ignoring that probably yeah pedophilia was likely something that was that he was doing in a way that has been documented in documentary form even though a lot of people don't believe it what do you mean ignoring it several all throughout the the show they were saying can you believe what they're saying about me in the media they didn't ignore it so they like mocked it
No, but look.
Also, that could mean anything. People are making fun of his appearance. There's a lot of things people are talking about in the media about him.
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Chapter 3: What are the allegations against Michael Jackson?
Kind of sounds like a pro-pedophilia musical you went to.
Okay, that is a way to frame it.
Billy, why do you want to be starting something? Beat it, Jeremy.
The music is so enduring, so enduring that somehow, posthumously, he cannot be canceled by allegations that would obviously get anyone else canceled. I don't know.
Some of you should look into a Prince documentary that Netflix will not allow to air and that the Prince estate will not allow to air that would be the greatest of documentaries that I'm guessing posthumously would do things to Prince's reputation that would make it harder to separate the art from the artist than Elle Duncan just did with Mulky and I and Zaslow did at a musical together, but not together.
So how do we do this? I know Pablo's one of the only people on the planet that's seen this masterpiece of a documentary with the guy that made O.J. Made in America. Ezra Edelman.
Don't say what's his name.
No, I didn't remember what his name was. No, I understand. He won an Oscar.
Respect, respect. Okay, win another one? It's been a while. Well, he would have with this. Look, man. Oh, my God. Listen to this story, okay? Because this one crushes me. Just crushes me for Ezra Edelman. A perfectionist of the highest order who makes only the best things. Guy makes the O.J. documentary and it can't even be done again. Netflix tried recently, it's embarrassing.
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Chapter 4: What challenges do documentaries face in today's media landscape?
I saw it and I was like, meh.
No, it's been done so well, it cannot and will not ever be done again better in a way that masterpieces are. He had so many options right after that. So many options. Anything you want to do. Clint Eastwood will take your seconds. You can do anything. But there's the pressure. I've got to make something better than that. And it did. Like he made something and we'll never see it.
And we'll never see it. No one will ever see it because the Prince's estate will be able to protect it. And imagine pouring yourself, because he works dark, man. He works alone and he is a genius. He is brilliant. He makes the perfect documentary and his next one was going to be better.
He was going to meet impossible expectations and exceed his own, which are impossible because the Prince documentary was going to be better than the OJ documentary and no one's ever going to see it. Can you imagine how that would feel to dedicate your life
years to one thing it's perfect for him because no one can come out and say wow this was a flop like this didn't live up to expectations it's just like wow this is even better than the last one but I can't show you just take my word for it and I'll show my friend Pablo and he won't say a bad thing about me so here's the thing if you want to make movies someone watches he should have made a Marvel movie made a ton of money everyone would have watched his movie had all these options make a comic book movie Ezra that's the move
How do we get Pablo in a state of I don't know what to tell us what's in kind of the cliff notes of the documentary? Like drugging Pablo, but like a nice way. Like truth serum kind of thing.
Well, what is he not allowed to say what he saw?
I don't know.
Why can't he describe what he saw?
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Chapter 5: How do personal opinions affect public perception of artists?
and tell you the truth, but they can be distorted and formed into anything with a good filmmaker. And the corporations right now are running scared of everything happening in America and the way that they can crush someone like Ezra Edelman who makes great things is the way a lot of great things are gonna get crushed under the weight of trying to tell the truth. It's embarrassing.
Like what's happening in the media industry right now and in this particular content industry, because the whole thing is shaking.
with the same people buying the things they want to make with others, with access to others, that might not be the true story that you get on Tiger Woods, on Max, even though he doesn't participate, which is hard to make, and now all of us, an athlete who spent his entire life in front of us, he marries and professes his love for Donald Trump Jr. 's ex.
And we don't know anything about that dude that resembles the truth because he's been in the machine of marketing for so many years. And even if it had breakdowns, we still don't know what that dude's politics are on anything. One of the best athletes of our time. Do we?
I mean, he was in the White House like a month ago. Yeah, I think we know. Accepting like some sort of award from Donald Trump.
But why? Like, you can't get anything from him to explain what it is.
Also, he asked for our privacy in his last post, so...
Am I ignorant in not knowing the scandal surrounding the Prince documentary? Like, we all know the Michael Jackson stuff without actually watching a documentary. Am I ignorant in not knowing?
Not everyone agrees. There have been very good documentaries. This is another litigious place that's very difficult to tell the truth, which is where it is that some kids can get abused because of how difficult it is to go against these machines. A documentary has been made that I have seen that is extraordinary and that I believe to be the truth about Michael Jackson's accusers.
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Chapter 6: What unique experiences does Ron McGill have with animals?
He doesn't know his Panthers or his Marlins. I don't know the Panthers. Oh, you're right. I know the Marlins.
You're scared. That's why.
I'm no longer paid to know the Panthers.
All right, so I don't know the Marlins. I can name a Marlin. Who? Sandy.
You know, we haven't been talking about it. Big return day today, obviously, for Jimmy Butler, who's coming down. First game against his former team.
Yeah, we haven't talked about that yet.
We haven't talked about the fact that Jazz Chisholm is also coming back today to face the Marlins. Spring training game. However, return game. How do you think that's going to be received? Standing ovation? Video package? Bigger or smaller story than the Jimmy Butler return?
Dan, will he be returning to play against A.J. Greer or Calvin Fotch?
So when they call me a coward, Zazz, didn't it feel to you in the last segment that there was cowardice involved, but it was not mine? It felt like Tony and Jessica and Jeremy and Billy were going to have a good, good argument live on television that would have been rich and resplendent for content, and I'm the coward?
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Chapter 7: What makes Evan Williams Bourbon a popular choice?
But I wanted to play the other game. Connor Gillespie. Can we play the other game? Can we play the way that Tony sank the show with his monkey shot that no one understood?
Evan Rodriguez. That's a tricky one, Dan. Well, while you were gone, we watched the Kim Mulkey dap, and I feel like all of the confusion was settled. We united. Yeah. Incredible dap. The back row is united, Dan.
How was the confusion settled when the interview got wrecked because Tony needed help and nobody gave it to him?
You would know if you didn't get up and leave.
Yeah. United we stand. United we stand on business.
USA. Who is the most conflicting now? Because we've had this happen in the history of the show. I'm stunned to say this, that while in our lifetime, Mike Ryan made the grandstanding play of quitting his lifetime team, the Cleveland Browns, because he could no longer celebrate.
He was lurking in the shadows the next season. They were flirting with the playoffs all of a sudden. It was kind of like, well, what happened with that stand again?
Okay, regardless, he made a moral stand virtue signaling and actually gave up his fandom and got accused of all sorts of things, but I felt like he left the team behind. When we talk about Mulkey or Michael Jackson, I genuinely ask you guys, where is the line?
I thought Elle already sort of answered this well. I will also mention we came together, I don't want to take the opportunity to just dump on Mike Ryan because he's not here, that's not what I'm trying to do. Go on. But the four of us did come together in the last segment off air and realize we all are really annoyed by something that Mike does every day.
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Chapter 8: How does one handle office conflicts in a humorous way?
Who the f*** is Willie? This one over here just says today wasn't good enough. I don't feel like I've caused any chaos. If anything, I'm trying to right the shit today. I've been doing my darndest to keep things on the rails today. Believe it or not, Ron McGill, who will be joining us shortly, I'm doing my best to make sure that we're staying on track. I'm just sitting there.
I'm just trying to change the subject and shit on someone who's not here.
I want to do that on Wednesdays is what I'm saying. I want a list. You guys said that you didn't want to talk about Mike Ryan when he's not here. If there's a list, that seems like a reasonable complaint. Like a weekly office complaint that's bought by the group about somebody I feel like should be fair game for all of us because those things should be spoken. Yes.
So you're saying spoiler Wednesday and shit on whoever's not here Wednesday and wild Willie Wednesday are now all the same Wednesday?
There's proper channels, though, to deal with, you know, inner office conflicts. I don't know that just airing it out is a good idea.
That's historically what this show has done. Historically, it's just been done this way. I'm following the leader here.
I will say this. You do kind of get a sense for the mood and what kind of day you're in store for depending on the music that's playing.
That's the thing.
So it is kind of a good tip sometimes.
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