Pablo Torre

Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out.

I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.

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I do just want to explain for people who haven't seen your previous appearances on this show.

That we've known each other for a very long time.

We're friends.

We're colleagues dating back to Sports Illustrated.

And also you are not related to Jeffrey Epstein.

What is it like being David Epstein these days?

Author of, by the way, Inside the Box, How Constraints Make Us Better, a book that I really enjoyed reading and listening to over the weekend.

But the idea that you had to filter out your own name from your own comment section because you know what people are going to say despite the fact that this is your third book and your sort of oeuvre here is established.

You are not the notorious sex trafficker and pedophile.

You are, in fact, the guy who had written The Sports Gene and Range, both studies of human performance and performance science.

And I often call you

the greatest sports science writer in America.

There are about as many David Epsteins in your physics class as there are such people, I suppose.

It's an interesting time to be an author because the other thing that's happening is that I'm looking at the news and I'm like, oh, yeah, did you get your anthropic payment?

This is like the porn hub of books.

Excuse me, I'm getting a notice in my ear that I'm mischaracterizing.

But a small price to pay for contributing to the sum total of human knowledge in the form that we all must consume it in, which is to say via a large language model, which is again, for those not reading the news, the good guys.