Pablo Torre
Appearances
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. You a side piece. Surprise! Right after this ad.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
Stay over. No. You know, when you're the coach of the Jaguars, maybe go to the restaurant that has your name in it. Never do anything Urban Meyer style. You have no room for the Holy Ghost. David, when you're the president of a baseball team, how much were you saying no to stuff in the flow of a season when it came to special treatments?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
What's the most absurd ask given this array of possibilities that you hated to get because it felt like way over the line but was very common?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
You got a ham. You got a cheese. You got a little Capri Sun.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
So just to spell that out.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
Wait, wait. You developed a citizenship test for someone's relationship.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
So, again, this is a difference. You said I want paperwork with a level of just arousal there that I just feel like.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
So I was going to get to that. I love you, Mickey, by the way. We certainly believe that less than we did before you said that story.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
I was going to wonder aloud about the bottom line performance criterion of just, hey, is this guy actually just worth it, right? He's still hitting. He's still the guy we need to give the ball to at the end of the game. LeBron, again, famously, just to add another example from recent history, remember when Phil Jackson got in trouble for the posse comment? Mm-hmm.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
He got in trouble because he was objecting to the treatment that LeBron was begrudgingly given by Pat Riley, who was running the Heat, because LeBron got to dictate his travel schedule. His friends, like his business partner, Maverick Carter, as well as his other associates that he wanted to bring along.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
He got in trouble because of... He used the word that felt like it did not reflect an understanding of the legitimacy of those guys and also the racial history of America in general. All of these things are true. Thank you for clarifying that, Dominique.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
But the point being that he's LeBron, of course.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
Yes, I'm talking about player empowerment, right? And what we're really talking about is superstars getting to dictate terms in a way that reflects their understanding of the scarcity of their talents.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
All right. It's time for me to take the wheel back. There's another story, David, that I thought of you when I was reading it because it is titled, The Allure of Microdosing Ozempic. So there is a whole, and Dominique is giving a face that I think is the right reaction when I say, David Sampson, I thought of you when I was reading this story.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
And the subhead is, some people are taking tiny amounts of weight loss medications, hoping to drop pounds while avoiding side effects. Does it work? And the spoiler alert on this is that there is no real solid scientific consensus, but it does seem like there is a community of people that is seeing benefits from this in a way that feels both encouraging,
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
because it speaks to, again, the way the body's chemistry and the science of both weight loss and hunger are actually shaped by levers we can pull, but also seems like it's too early to spike the football. We've solved the problem of people struggling to lose weight. And I think of David, Dominique, because I don't think a lot of people know this necessarily.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
And David, forgive me if this is not the intro that you wanted, but weight is something that you personally have learned had to reckon with, despite the fact that no one would look at you and say, that is a guy who is struggling with weight.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
And David, when you say you were sick and had a disorder, that was the way you lost weight. What are you describing there? Just so we can bring people into this conversation.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
That is the work of a structural engineer. That's a build? God damn. I told you. I don't lie to you guys. And that in some ways is its own concern. The share and tell topic I brought with both of you guys is this Juan Soto topic. And there is a part of the John Heyman reporting on this. He's the guy who's been on top of all of this.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
Hold on. Hold on. David is clearly comfortable enough to want to talk about this. Okay. I have a real conversation in real life with David. He can vouch for this. And then I'm reading all these news stories and I'm like, wait a minute. This is something that I want to talk to Dominique and David about because David is as described. I am somebody who has had an incredible metabolism.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
And Dominique, I've shared this with you, but it's really just me calling myself out. You know, it's like, oh, wait a minute. Am I pre-diabetic now because I'm not eating healthily? Which is the thing that I have, by the way, last blood test, I've gotten out of it for now. We're all pre-diabetic. I know. We're all day-to-day, as they say.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
But the point being that I am feeling as a dad, like when David said I cover my stomach with my arms, you may notice on the YouTube or DraftKings Network that I was also doing that for the same f***.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
reason and i am realizing my metabolism is is done and i need to figure out uh my own issues with like how do i look in public and dominique is of course a former professional athlete whose physical health has been something he invests in in a rigorous way and so here we are three legs of a f***ed up tripod and i just wanted to revel in that for a second we reveled
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
David, the word you use, which I think is appropriate, and by the way, I do want to acknowledge, right? Like, the reason I find all of this especially interesting is because we are dudes. And this is typically something that women, of course, are socially conditioned to be horrified by. And we've seen many movies about that. This, I think, relatively less so, which is why I want to lean into it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
But you used the word before, which is dysmorphia. And I think that is a good word for this because it of course describes a feeling of profound unease or dissatisfaction, but it also indicates that there is a misalignment of reality and perception.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
And so when David is the guy, David, who is analyzing a table of hotel key cards with numbers, and he's a guy who is examining a stadium and picking out every little flaw and making sure it's right, it does track that you would turn that same gaze onto yourself.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
in a way that indicates, even though you're the guy who also, I don't think you've said this explicitly on this show, this bluntly, you're the guy who once ran how many marathons and how many continents and how many days, right? Seven and seven and seven?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
I feel like that sort of proved my point actually, the one I was gesturing towards. But David, the point being that of course you're also that guy. You can't turn it off.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
He tends to be on top of Scott Boris represented athletes, if you've been paying attention to the game within the game. But he has great color on this story, David. And so I just want to read a part of the reporting. Of course, Juan Soto, now a New York Met. They outbid the New York Yankees. The Mets paid $760 million over 15 years, a record price. All that stuff is true.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
I feel like we should go with a bit of a holiday spirit topic. And I want to know the best and worst gifts you guys have received.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
David, you give him a prompt. He's like, got it in a second. And it makes me think that he has contemplated every question I've ever asked anybody ever. This is not rehearsed.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
I did not prep you guys about this.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
I believe it's called mens rea when it comes to the criminal law. What is the motive here that you have diagnosed?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
I do love that the guy who can't stop paying attention to the most microscopic detail is given three years in a row the same gift again.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
So I agree that, and I was going to pivot to sort of how gift-giving in adulthood as a parent has been so much not about me anymore to the point where, like, I can't remember, but... I want to go to the Sega Genesis thing for a second because that feeling of like unboxing a gift is both something that I, on some level, am chasing, even if I don't totally know it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
And I know that others are because the most popular, of course, genre, one of the most popular genres on YouTube, of course, is unboxing videos in which you're watching other people unveil their gift. And so there is just something about that feeling of being a kid, getting a present, and the promise of this is exactly...
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
It's the promise of your emotional needs will be satisfied by this material possession. And over time, that has been worn down to such a raggedy nub. But at the time, as a fellow Sega Genesis haver, I remember that exact Christmas of being like, oh my God, this hedgehog is going to make me happy. And it did for a while. And now as an adult, I'm like you, Dominique, I am not a good gift giver.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
But it seems like one thing the Yankees would not budge on, which was startling to me, was the inclusion of a suite, a luxury suite. Quote, the Yankees felt they couldn't give a suite to Soto as part of this deal. When Judge, Aaron Judge, pays for his suite, and even Derek Jeter paid, they were willing to discount a suite, but not alter their precedent.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
I am a self-gifter where I'm just like, okay, I feel like- If you want it, you buy it. Yes. So the worst gift I've given is the gift I gave to myself, which is I am one of the idiots who bought the Apple Vision Pro. Oh, there it is. Me and David Sampson, both raising our hands. We bought the VR headset.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
Amazing. First off, we should talk about re-gifting. But how many times did you use it, David, before you decided to re-gift it? It was unopened.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
It was bad for the goose. It was traumatic for the goose. It's goose shit, but it's a goose nonetheless. I don't think we necessarily agree on the meaning of this idiom.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
I don't... Did you guys ever do the thing where you gave... I remember giving my mom this.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
Yeah, I knew you were going to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You write a custom coupon book, and it's like, I will clean my room. I will, whatever, not play Sega Genesis. And you would tear them off and hand it to your mom. Ever think, David, you're familiar with the coupon as a... Creative project?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
What happened at the party?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
I think that's it. I think that's it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
I was going to say, it's rare that the control room weighs in through my ear and just says, David is bumming everybody out.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
Meanwhile, Steve Cohen, one of the 100 richest men in the world, apparently, quote, didn't give the suite much of a thought. When he has his eyes on a prize, he is singularly focused. And so Juan Soto got the super duper duper star treatment. And it made me think about the ways in which there is, in fact, levels of superstar treatment and gifts and benefits and privileges.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
What did we find out today, guys, on this episode of Pablo Torre Finds Out, an episode in which we found out, I think, a lot of stuff, personally. Yeah. But, Dominique, do you want to lead us off with the revelation that you have developed here today?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
I found out that both of you guys are bad at finding out because all of those things should have been obvious from episode one that we ever did together. Oh, man.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
I invoke superstar privilege. The show is over. Get the f*** out of here. Thank God. See you later, guys. Thank you. Love you guys.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
And both of you guys happen to have, I would say, personal viewpoints, I assume informed by your roles in your past lives.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
Yeah, it feels vague and fluffy.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
I think it's interesting, though, that Dominique's brain went to a place where mine did, which was, there is something, though, about the furniture that you have to see every day. There's something, David, famously, Barry Bonds had the double-wide locker as well. There is a list of examples. throughout sports history.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
I mean, Giannis Antetokounmpo, you might say that Thanasis, his brother, just being around, him getting the other deal. Is that a benefit, like an extra wide double locker?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
What I find so interesting, David, also just to sort of characterize this. It's interesting to think about this as a zero sum game, right? Like in terms of real estate roster spots, there are only so many of these that can be given out. And so someone is actively not getting something if the super duper duper star is getting it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
And your view in terms of a guy who had to worry about, okay, here's the payroll, here's the composition of the clubhouse. Your view was how often was that challenged by this privilege?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
How was he on the culture? How was he phenosis-like in terms of impacting the culture of your clubhouse?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
I don't want to relitigate Bronny, but Dominique, as somebody who played in the league, how obvious was it on the teams you played for that actually there were guys who were getting stuff that you guys could not dream of getting?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
Yeah, Joel Embiid, I was going to say, famously just got in trouble because Tyrese Maxey was calling him out, allegedly, reportedly, for having the temerity to show up and treat time as a construct. Was it mitigated or unmitigated? It seems like it was increasingly mitigated. Yeah, yeah.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
Do you guys ever do a joining room slumber party?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Gift & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson
Oh, man. What'd you get? What's your custom build? Yeah, what do we got? Can we guess? Can we guess? You won't be able to. What? He has such little faith in our ability to predict David Sampson's whims, Dominique.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
Look, it's Smokey. It's Al, but really Harvey. It's Phyllis from Mulga. I mean, Paul, these are characters that I feel like I know. And of course, Phyllis, God rest her soul. Her call in 2017 about Jim Harbaugh is still seared into my brain.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
There's an aspect of your show, of course, that is both therapy, that is confessional booth, that is, frankly, Occupy Wall Street when it comes to just the populism taking control of what feels like a very top-down bureaucracy otherwise. And in this scenario, like the person, of course, who has most grabbed my attention all season this season is a guy who goes by a single name.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
All right, so Legend. Okay. You may recall Legend from like 15 minutes ago, actually, because Legend happens to be the caller whose analysis of a team coached by Nick Saban's replacement, Kalen DeBoer, after losing to 5-5 Oklahoma earlier this season, Bama's third loss of said season, was this.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
So the first thing I wanted to find out about Legend was simple. Do you ever call Legend his real name, Paul? No, I believe his real name is Gary. And it is Gary Wilson, it turns out, who has otherwise been working all sorts of jobs in Birmingham, Alabama. And so I decided that I should probably call up Gary myself. Hey, bro, can you hear me? I can hear you. I can see you.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
Are you always wearing the glasses when you do this, when you make calls, when you talk, or is this just for me?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
Paul, when did you realize, how long did it take you to realize that Legend was going to be one of these special callers, maybe even special in a way that no one could quite replicate?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
When did sports radio become a thing that you knew you would enjoy?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
But there is something else that I needed to clarify about legend, Gary, that is critical to understanding the broader Feinbaum community of colors and also how it is mathematically even possible that college football is the second most popular sport in the United States, right behind the NFL, and easily the most unhinged, which is that legend never actually attended the University of Alabama.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
All of which qualifies Legend, according to his own personal estimation, for a very special form of office, a leadership position in a truly startlingly enormous community. And it's the kind of office that, by definition, you cannot pay for.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
It's an unbelievable asset to hear from a guy like Legend what he did after Tennessee, after Alabama loses to Tennessee.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
The ivory tower still has a nice padded cushion in my seat, yeah.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
It will be that. No, you will be forever the guy who brought me the caller who said that losing to Oklahoma was like going to bed with Beyonce and waking up next to Whoopi Goldberg.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
The larger family of networks.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
I concur. In terms of just the callers and their own views of themselves, you know, I was talking to Legend, and Legend wanted to be very clear about this. He said, I am not Harvey Updike. Harvey Updike is a criminal. That's not me.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
And of course, in my mind, I immediately went to, of course, Legend's own past.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
On paper, it is grisly, right? I mean, what we're talking about with Legend is a story of him when he's 17 years old. It's Winston County. It's northwest Alabama. The argument with his cousin over a girl, I believe he also mentioned.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
And he goes to his father's gun cabinet. His dad's out. His dad apparently working in the coal mine. It's a .22 rifle. And he takes his cousin out to the woods. And he shoots Randy Barton, also 17, twice in the back of the head.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
So if you're already wondering here why the most popular and influential sports radio show in the entirety of the South, beloved by those voices we just played for you, happens to be a program called The Paul Feinbaum Show, I get the question. Paul is a bald 69-year-old Jewish guy who is not from Alabama, although he has lived in Alabama now for 45 years.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
100%.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
Paul, you say you don't know the story of actually how Legend got the name Legend.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
And that's how it happened. That's legendary. He had mentioned, I don't know if you remember this, but there was a moment, I guess, about a year and a half ago. I believe it was a school shooting of some kind.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
And he said that this was the thing that made him want to go and actually take his act, so to speak, out on the road to these prisons.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
And those same voices you heard have taken to comparing Paul's general look to Mr. Burns from The Simpsons, for instance, among other things. But the Paul Feinbaum Show, to be very clear, is a singular cultural institution
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
It does feel like Paul is giving out a kind of medication.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
Legend now, okay, his mission now, right? He has a couple of missions, crusades for the good in life. He also wants to fire Kalen DeBoer.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
Paul, I don't know if you could even begin to disagree with my assessment here. That stuff is what makes the job itself at times so hard. Isn't it? The idea that this is a hot seat and the fire underneath, you can tune in and listen to it every time you put on the Feinbaum Show.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
And this particular holiday season, Tuscaloosa's first without Nick Saban, arguably the greatest college football coach who ever lived, there is no radio show that I would rather hear.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
But the influence is obvious to everybody, I think, who spends a couple minutes listening to the people that listen to you. And when I listen to Legend talk about what this particular holiday season is going to be like, Paul, I mean, let's just say it bluntly. This is a weird Christmas season.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
Yes, against a 7-5 Michigan team.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
Yeah, Legend, for the record here, offered me his ticket to the Relia Quest Bowl.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
I hesitate to leave the ivory tower for the Reliaquest Bowl. Don't do it. You don't want to be seen there. No, no, God no. And so the question becomes, ahead of Christmas now, what do you want for Christmas, Paul Feinbaum? What do you hope for your audience?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
The leaves are rustling, Paul.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
Paul, it's such a beautiful sentiment. And it may not surprise you to learn that when I asked Legend this same question, he said this.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
So, Paul Feinbaum, thank you for introducing me to your community, and happy holidays.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
And so all we're left with now is a mental image, I suppose, of a young Paul Feinbaum a pie. and you're welcome for that. But what I did want to find out today is how Paul got into this mess, so to speak, in the first place.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
Among all of the rabid cultures across the South and the Midwest, why is Alabama the place where this show is like this?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
Yeah, and now I come to you in the post-Nick Saban era at a time when I think I am more interested in you and your audience than I've ever been. It's been a hell of a season for your show in all of these senses.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
This is surreal, though. The setup we have right now, I do feel like a caller on your show, which is... Well, you're a FaceTime caller. Yeah, I'm a first-time long-time. That is also true. I was thinking about how to explain you and your show to people in my life who don't already know the legend of your show, so to speak.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
When I tell you, though, that I first became aware of your show in earnest in about 2010, I imagine you can guess why. The saga of Al from Dadeville, Paul, I struggle to begin to summarize the Shakespearean and then criminal drama that was that story. How do you tell it for people not familiar with the lore?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
And I realize that it's hard because I have to explain that I spend time with Paul Feinbaum early in the morning on MSNBC quite a bit.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
Yeah, sentenced to three years in prison, pleaded guilty to criminal damage of an agricultural facility. And it would be one thing if it was the story of your show, if that was like the one thing people talked about. I think it was the next year when a gentleman named Smokey calls you and he has a predicament.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - The Legend of The Paul Finebaum Show: Behind the Scenes in "Scrooge City"
But, okay, hold on. What I'm finding out immediately is that Smokey still today is... All right.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
Yeah, we lead the league in that, in snooty elitist approval, definitely.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
That's right. I'm an MSNBC analyst. It is a fun ivory tower where I get to be a jock. That's what I am over there. You're the popular.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
I'm the sports guy who gets to be chill and hanging out with the fellas. That's what I do over there. Unlike here where I'm not respected really in any way. I'm reduced to a kind of like inset picture in picture thing where I just laugh at people do bits.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
I'm a palate cleanser. I'm a palate cleanser, a representative of the thing that Americans actually care about in a place where people are genuinely worried and fretting about politics, about whatever is happening in D.C. right now, which, again, I think would be an awesome debate topic for Shannon Sharp to tackle. What do we do about the debt ceiling? He had to go.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
Very good. I think that my role there is I love, look, I love talking about sports to people who don't actually know anything about sports. It's kind of the inverse of the exercise you just did. What if you knew something about sports and the audience did it? It's fantastic.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
Don't wear glasses, actually. I'm a guy who doesn't wear glasses anymore. I wear contacts now. The library can be fun. Libraries can be fun. There are books in them. Put it on the poll, Juju.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
That's right. What we need more is just overconfident declarations of things as opposed to, you know, an open-minded curiosity. Sure, let's go that way instead of the way that I'm at. Open-minded?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
I'm actually here to say thank you, Dan. It's been a really long but incredible year for us in New York. We are a satellite upon the moon, upon the sun. Let's upgrade it to the largest celestial body that is you guys in Miami. And what I come here to say is, yes, we have a great episode today with Dan and Mina.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
Yes, we had a great episode yesterday with Paul Feinbaum and the secret history of his collars and their criminal histories, which are both hilarious and profound. His collar? His collars. Oh, multiple different shirts. Got it. And they are not normal collars. Do not find a new slant. What I'm here to say is that it's a show that we really couldn't launch without Dan.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
And so when Dan talks about how much it costs, I reckon with that because... The whole thing is that we make a show with ambition that is powered by people who otherwise are not getting paid. Like we are paying journalists to go report stories for us. We're trying to go to death row as well as trying to buy a sculpture of myself made of butter. We're trying to do serious stuff and silly stuff.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
And I just want to say thank you legitimately because the premise of this company was we would get to make something from scratch that lived up to some amount of hype. And I am very proud that on some level we have done that. And it's really hard. And so thank you to Dan and to everybody in Miami for enabling the nonsense that I know you guys like to make fun of. But deep down.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
I think you might like, just like a library, you know, has some fun stuff in it too.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
Okay, hold on. By the way, just as an FYI, what I found out is that Dan should never be in a finance meeting. I shouldn't. Dan comes out of that thing, and he's like, I got takes. I'm like, oh, God.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
Mike, can we get Dan out of the meetings? Why is he in the meetings? I thought the whole thing was he shouldn't be in the meetings. And now he's in the meetings at the end of the year.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
This is a dangerous game that we're playing. Amin also is somebody who... famously, can talk to you about his own dreams for hours, and no one's sure if he made those up. So he seems very squarely in his wheelhouse.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
And I believe— Didn't Andrew Hawkins invent, like, a virtual reality system? I just saw that on the internet the other day. I was like, wait a minute. Is that Andrew Hawkins?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
Nah, Amin's playing hurt. I'm going to go with Andrew. Hawks confidence is too high right now. Amin Elhassan is absolutely going to destroy Andrew Hawkins at this.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
If you asked me which guy is the former football player dealing with a lifetime of football injuries, I'd be like, it's the guy with the fat lip who is cognitively impaired, but also very sharp right now.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
I am going to argue that Amin Alhassan is currently the best version of himself as a debater I've ever heard. Amin, you can hear him, you can hear the Queens, you can hear the Stephen A in his voice as his cognitive impairment also is clearly upon him. I also would argue that Amin should probably try, you know, Hawk knows this, Toradol is a thing football players get before a big game.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
Amin should actually hurt himself before debating. This is currently working for him.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
It's the opposite of Toradol. You have whatever that is.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: First Fake
Can we do the debt ceiling? Can we do the debt ceiling as the topic?