Pardon My Take
Keith Yandle Talking Hockey, Pablo Torre On Jordon Hudson And Bill Belichick, Jayson Tatum Tears His Achilles And Celtics Down 3-1, Mavs Win The Lottery + Guys On Chicks
Wed, 14 May 2025
The Pacers are in the Eastern Conference Finals and where do the Cavs go from here (00:00:00-00:10:28)? The Nuggets couldn't hit a shot in the 4th quarter and the Thunder take a huge Game 5 (00:10:28-00:19:23). We talk a little baseball and MJ going to NBC (00:19:23-00:26:03). We then go back in studio to talk about Celtics/Knicks, Jalen Brunson's huge Game 4, Jayson Tatum's injury, Hank's mentals and more (00:26:03-00:55:56). Timberwolves look like theyre ready to end the Warriors season and we went to the NBA Draft Lottery and watched the shocking results as the Mavs win the first pick (00:55:56-01:19:39). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Pete Rose being back from the grave, Big Cat buying an Ice Cream machine and the NFL teasing us all week with the schedule (01:19:39-01:42:53). Keith Yandle joins the show to talk Stanley Cup playoffs, Panthers/Leafs and Biz losing his mind, the Caps in trouble and more (01:42:53-02:21:17). We then welcome on Pablo Torre from Pablo Torre Finds Out after he did a deep dive into Jordon Hudson's relationship with Bill Belichick, the fall out from his findings, what happens next and how he what his next investigative work will be (02:21:17-02:59:48). We finish with guys on chicks (02:59:48-03:14:13).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take
Chapter 1: What happened in the Eastern Conference Finals with the Pacers and Cavs?
It's fun. It's fun. I felt like they were going to come back even when they were down early. This is a team that does not quit. And the Cavs, yeah, they were hobbled. They've got excuses. That's good for the Cavs. At least you can point to injuries and stuff. Be like, yeah, well, we weren't at full speed. But the Pacers did look good, and they stuck it in ESPN's face.
Yep.
This is a trend that we're seeing now. Because remember in the first round, I think it was 10-0. The ESPN experts picked the Lakers over the Wolves. I think it was 13-0 ESPN experts picked the Cavs over the Pacers. And I think it's 13-1 Celtics over the Knicks as well. So there's a lot. There's a lot going on right now at ESPN.
And hand up, I think this whole show had the Cavs. This whole show had the Celtics, which we're going to get to. I know a lot of people are probably tuning in for that. When we get back in studio, we will get to. Yeah, I saw it. Miles Turner tweeted out after the game all the experts that picked the Cavs. Miles Turner was incredible this series. He was incredible tonight. He hit the dagger shot.
I think he had five blocks. Hal Burton was awesome. Playoff Nembhard is a real thing. They're just a fun team. They play with so much pace. They wear you out. Rick Carlisle was even like – Rick Carlisle might be the most underrated coach in the NBA. He was very gracious in victory being like, you know, the Cavs had an incredible season. They just ran into a hot team like us.
We're playing great ball right now, and that's a fact. Like they – I think – so the excuse thing for the Cavs, They obviously had some injuries. Darius Garland, Mobley, Donovan Mitchell gets banged up a little. I still think that this is a really demoralizing, disgusting way to go out. For a team that won 64 games this year, that's the second most wins in Cleveland Cavaliers' franchise.
To go out in five games, and especially the way Game 4 happened... I think you got to run it back if you're the Cavs, but man, that's as demoralizing as it gets to go out that way. They just didn't put up a fight other than Donovan Mitchell having heroic moments.
And yeah, you could turn to game two and be like, hey, if they could inbound the ball, they could have had two wins and the series could still be going on. But that's what the Pacers – the Pacers make clutch shots, big moments, run fast. They just – they have it all. And if you're a Cavs fan, I think this is as dark as it's been for a long time. And I'll say this, PFT.
LeBron, he's going to opt out. He's going to opt out. Could he end his career in Cleveland? Could he fix everything? I don't think he's opting out. He might opt out to take less money, but that would be fun if he did the opt out. And we had like a day or two of being like calves last time.
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Chapter 2: How did the Nuggets and Thunder perform in Game 5 of their series?
It's like, Oh no, we're going to be losing these guys in a year. And now it's like, okay, well they're coming back next year. Yeah. That's cool. We don't have to, we don't have to deal with that loss to Michael Jordan. Yeah.
michael jordan's gonna be dude if so there's news i think it was what tuesday morning uh or no sorry monday morning i can't i can't get my days straight uh that mj is doing uh and he's doing peacock right yeah he's gonna be on the peacock uh he's gonna be an occasional contributor so not all the time but he's gonna he's gonna parachute in if mj has to give picks He has to give picks.
No, you know he won't. They won't let him, but he has to. I think he might. I think he might weasel it in there. I would love if he not only gave picks, but he also like, he's like, all right, we're going to go to MJ's picks tonight. And he's like, all right, I got the Knicks. I got the Nuggets. And here's what you're going to want to do if you have 14 and the dealer showing eight.
Like he gets tips on blackjack to NASCAR.
I want MJ just unloading the clip. I think I mean, if we're being honest, why do you think MJ is doing this? I think he probably had the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, right? Damn it. I got to get a job.
I think he also like this is this is a part. Legacy is obviously important. And like being on TV is important. He hasn't he doesn't do he doesn't do media like at all. So I think being in the conversation like you see Gretzky out there, obviously, like Charles Barkley had an incredible NBA career. He he is well known far past. Is it like compared to like some of the guys he played with?
He's well known so much farther past that because of what he's done with inside the NBA.
So I actually think that's probably the biggest reason why Jordan's doing this. is because he wants to come back and dominate Chuck. He's sick of Chuck. And he got mad at Chuck a couple years ago when Barkley was saying that MJ stunk as a GM, which is true. I mean, just objectively. It is. As an analyst.
And then I think Jordan got real mad about that, and he sees these guys that he used to dominate in basketball on TV, and he's like, fuck that. I'm going to come on TV and just make their life hell again.
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Chapter 3: What is Michael Jordan's new role with NBC and how will it impact sports media?
You are learning. So what's up, Hank? How are we doing? The real story here is Jason Tatum went down with an injury.
The Knicks were probably going to win this game anyway. I think at the time, the Knicks seemed to be the better team. But, I mean, anything could have happened from that point on. But you can't put the injury – you can't blame the loss entirely on the injury.
Yeah, he got injured with three minutes left. The Knicks, on the injury, took a nine-point lead. The injury was tough because it was a little bit of the Jalen Brown turning the ball over thing. It's not his fault that Jason Tatum might have torn his Achilles. We still don't have a report. I'm sure by the time people are listening, there'll be a report. What do you want to start with, Hank?
You want to start with that being down 3-1? You want to start with Tatum? What do you want to start with? Do you want to start with Max?
Max has nothing to do with this.
Well, I think he has something to do with this.
He's a scumbag, but. It was one of the worst nights as a sports fan in a long time. Same. We went from going into the game, even the first half, we were kind of dominating. Derek White couldn't miss. Felt like we were going to blow him out again. Road to Banner 19. And then within two hours, everything is in limbo.
It feels like this version, like the championship team of the Celtics, we might never see play again.
Everything's in limbo. What are you shaking your head, Max?
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of Jayson Tatum's Achilles injury for the Celtics?
Yeah. He said, out of respect for Stool President Hennies and the Celtics and especially Jason Tatum, Mr. Bing Bong will be taking a break for the remainder of this series. Appreciate all you all do. Bing Bong. And then he an hour or no, four hours later said, after some thought of the Celtics win game five tomorrow, Mr. Bing Bong will be back.
flip-flopper okay so also shout out jerry who sent me and pft some very funny voice messages that all of them said afterwards not for air all cats we'll just say that jerry he's unveiled a new character it's a private character that only me and big cat get to see it's uh it's not mr bing bong anymore it's dr bing bong dr bing bong diagnosis was making some great points last night in the side chat till like midnight i was laying in bed and dr bing bong had another report
Hank, I am a little bit worried about you, though, because last night you said you weren't feeling good. And so I just wanted to make sure that you were feeling okay today, health-wise.
Yeah, I couldn't get off the couch last night.
Yeah, so I was willing to tape an emergency pod. Same, so was I. It felt like a time when we should have done an emergency pod. If we ever do it, last night would have been a great time because so much stuff happened. I'd even taken an edible, but I was ready to lock it in and try to focus. Hank wasn't feeling good, unfortunately. I would have done it. Big Cat was asleep.
Well, no, hold on. I threw out the idea to do an emergency pod right after all of it happened, and I got no response. And then two hours went by, and then it was like, oh, should we? It was like, well, the moment kind of is gone. They wanted it right away. I was the first one to say emergency pop.
I was down. You said you were sick. I was still down.
Okay. I don't know if you did say you were down. You say sick or down. I don't think you ever did say you were down.
I didn't say I was down, but if you had asked me, like, can we do this? I would have said yes. I would have answered the bell.
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Chapter 5: What was the NBA Draft Lottery experience and how did the Mavs win the first pick?
Well, you guys wanted to get credentialed. That's the only thing I'll say. You guys are saying you got used, but.
No, we didn't get used.
You guys wanted to go.
We are suckers because we wanted to go. We got dressed up. There's a video coming out. I had to leave early because it was my son's birthday, but PFT and Max stayed for the actual lottery reveal. But we got there... Dressed like idiots in suits credentials, which like we are. We are. We're six year olds. They hand us a fucking picture of ourselves on a laminated card with a lanyard on.
And we all like, holy shit, this is cool. And I'm just walking around. Look at this. Credential.
Hit the buffet. Yeah. Did the whole thing. Did the behind-the-scenes tour. They made us feel special going into the room. So the way the draft lottery works out is there's two rooms for everything. One room is where the real shit happens. And that's where they have all the numbers up on the wall. That's where the guy from Ernst & Young is supervising everything. That's where they do the drawing.
And then after they do the drawing, they take the results in like a briefcase and they bring it out to the main room where they announce it to the world. So everybody that is supervising the draft lottery, as it actually happens in the real secret room, they get their cell phones taken away. It's like a conclave. They get locked in there. They're electing the Pope. Yeah.
And they don't get their cell phones back until after it's been broadcast to the world. And then they take the results out, and that's where you see Hakeem Olajuwon. That's where you see Bub Carrington. That's where you see Jared McCain representing their teams is when they make that announcement after it's already happened. And we got the tour behind the scenes.
We saw the official lottery ball machine that they have. Yep. I wanted to buy it. I told Max this, but when you looked at that, My first thought was, I would love to smoke out of this thing. You could turn that into a sick-ass bong. I want to blaze up out of there. Yep. Thanks, Hank. And being behind the scenes, we talked to them for a little bit. We started to make some jokes.
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Chapter 6: Who are the hot seat and cool throne picks this week including Pete Rose return and NFL schedule?
Get it.
The Hamas picture of you at the White House. Yeah.
A bomber's paradise. That's so long ago.
That's so long ago. You get 72 virgins after you finish a round.
Yeah. Justin Thomas also, to give some more insight, said, I feel like a place like this where it doesn't necessarily require a lot of thought or strategy off the tee. It's generally pulling out driver and just I need to hit this as far and as straight as possible.
So Bryson.
Yeah. So Bryson's the play. Bryson, Roar, yeah. That's what you would be led to believe. It's also been raining there, so it's going to be soft conditions.
Do you guys like that the PGA moved?
No. No. I don't either.
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Chapter 7: What insights does Keith Yandle provide on the Stanley Cup playoffs and NHL teams?
It's driving me insane. I fucking hate it. Just give me the whole schedule. They've completely ruined something that was kind of fun. And now it's just become because now I'm piecing it all together. We spent we were at the NBA draft lottery like for 20 minutes trying to piece together what the Christmas Day games might be.
And like, it's just so stupid. So it's looking like, yeah, the Eagles have a game week 10 Monday Night Football against the Packers. They are just, yes. Yeah, they're playing opening day against the Cowboys. It's been a lot. They did the international schedule as well. The Commanders are playing against the Dolphins in Spain.
The Vikings are doing the first ever back-to-back in different countries.
They're going Dublin, then London. Yeah. Steelers and then the Browns back-to-back. It does suck. It does suck. I understand that you want to... The problem is it's each broadcast partner that wants to have their moment in the sun where they get all the attention on one of their games. But no one asked for this. We're going to watch the games anyway.
Just give us the whole fucking schedule and stop with the leaks and stop with the morsels. Just give us the whole fucking schedule. And also, fuck you to the people who are like, it doesn't matter. We already know the opponents. That's Max. How they go matters a lot. It does. It also matters for people who are trying to make trips around this.
It also matters if you're, like, I really enjoy complaining if you're like, the NFL fucked us because we have to play, like, two games in a matter of six days. Right. You know, like, that whole shit. Like, complaining about getting bad rest when it matters the most, when your bye week is. Yep. It's fun to complain about that, but also you could do all this by just releasing the schedule.
Release the fucking schedule. The entire schedule. So annoying. Just mainline it to us. But yeah, we were looking at the Christmas week games, and Big Cat and I were like, well, fuck, that means that if you do the math... we're going to be playing each other on Christmas.
And then we started planning the part of my take schedule for that week with the understanding that the commanders are probably playing the Bears on Christmas. And then all that might be wrong, too.
Yeah, because we realized that we were planning it like it was last year when it was Wednesday was Christmas, so the Saturday games had to be the Wednesday games. This year it's Thursday's Christmas, so they can absolutely use the Sunday games for Thursday games.
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Chapter 8: What did Pablo Torre reveal about Jordon Hudson's relationship with Bill Belichick?
But he's like, I wanted to I wanted to come to Dallas so I could shove it up their ass. And yeah, and he did it. And he and he's got the entire hockey world like flipped on its head. He's got guys that used to play with them, you know, answering questions. Oh, you know, why the hell did you trade them?
Guys weighing in that used to play with him that aren't on the team anymore are weighing in on Twitter. Nazem Qadri was like, this is why you don't trade the big boys. It's bringing a little drama to the game, which is always fun. He's living up to his nickname of the horse, the big horse. He is absolutely on a mission right now. To go into a team, I think he only played what...
10 or 12 regular season games with them so it's not a ton of familiarity with your players i know i know he's um you know country mates with rupe hints so they have a little chemistry together but it's really hard to go in and you know not have that much time with a team and to be playing this good because you know a lot of tendency you get you you figure out how guys like to play where guys like the park the tendencies of you know where guys are going to be in the
ozone d zone and the fact that he's figured it out this quick and you know at the end of the day i think he's just like hey boys hop on my back and enjoy the ride and he is he is putting on an absolute clinic right now the big horse i love that nickname the big horse yeah i've heard i've heard people call him the moose too i don't know i've moose is another one what's the difference between having a horse on your team and having a moose on your team well when you got both of them
I mean, if you have two nicknames, it's a horse and a moose. You'd rather that. I don't know. I'd probably rather a horse because I feel like they're a little faster. Yeah. I mean, a moose is both beautiful animals, too. So, I mean... I don't know. I'd rather have a horse. What would you rather have?
I think a moose for hockey. You got to have a moose. Yeah, because a moose is like cold weather, like Canada.
He's in Dallas, though, so he might die.
That's true. Yeah, that's a good point. When I hear people say like, oh, yeah, we got this horse, I feel like that's a fast guy, scores a lot of goals, but you got to have a moose if you want to win a cup.
Actually, if I could go off script here, I think I'd rather an ox. And Ox is just built for work.
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Chapter 9: What is the Guys on Chicks segment and what topics are covered?
Did she design that stupid fucking lighthouse at Gillette? It wouldn't shock me if she was behind that fake lighthouse.
No, but then it would be a work of art if she did.
Yeah, if you know the motivation behind it, then you can truly understand the story behind the lighthouse. But as it stands, it's just a piece of kitsch. But if we knew that she was involved, then you truly understand.
Greatest lighthouse ever.
You begin to see the depth of the artist's brain behind it.
She does love a nautical theme. Not reporting that. He does love fishermen and stuff, so I'm just saying. Yeah.
What's up? PFT pointed this out the other day on our group text, and I did see, I think the New York Post might have reported about it. What's up with the ring camera stuff? So there was the famous Bill Belichick leaving a house, farting in a ring camera, and then there was an article I read yesterday that was like, the family is now worried that how did this get out and who might've leaked this?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I, I think I might be the person who inspired the sort of like dominoes of aggregation that got to you guys on the family being worried about this video. So the video, I think for most people got, got to be a thing because of the Tom Brady roast.
So the Netflix roast, Tom Brady makes a joke around how his favorite ring is actually, uh, the ring camera video, Belichick like shirtless, uh, wandering around on a porch somewhere in presumably Massachusetts. The pieces then were reported, I think, by the Daily Mail or something. It's hard to keep track, but like it was identified as like this is outside of Jordan Hudson's home.
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