Pablo Torre Finds Out
The 2024 Internet Etiquette Draft: Share & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Fri, 20 Dec 2024
After a holiday toast from the aged-out gasbag to his favorite creatures of the internet, we end the year with the important questions: Are phones too loud? Is listening on 1.5x speed insane? Should people post more ugly pictures of themselves? Can scammers really fake it ’til they make it? And are teenagers running the New York Jets? Plus: poetry-reading, grief-eating, the murder era of content, the quantum of dishonesty and the inevitable destruction that comes with inflated ego. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the sound we're discussing?
Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre. And today we're going to find out what this sound is.
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Kennt ihr auch diesen einen Freund, der morgens einfach so ruckzuck aus dem Bett und danach aus dem Grinsen gar nicht mehr rauskommt? Der sogar noch vor dem ersten Kaffee unverschämt gut gelaunt ist und mit der Morgensonne um die Wette strahlt? Furchtbar. Ekelhaft.
Wie kann man nur so... Ausgeruht sein? Ganz einfach. Trainiere deinen Schlaf und werde auch du zum Morgenmenschen. Mit der Galaxy Watch 7 oder dem Galaxy Ring und der Samsung Health App.
All right, I will be thrilled right now to be a passenger on this joyride as we head into the holidays fast friends and professionally fulfilled.
Why are you giving a toast? You're giving a toast at the holiday party right now, at the end of the year holiday party.
Because I'm grateful for you guys and I'm not going to be able to talk to you again before the end of the year in all likelihood. We're not going to make content together. And if we're not making content together, I'm sure as shit not going to hear from Pablo, maybe from Mina. But if we're not doing something that airs on Pablo's show, I'm not going to hear holiday friendship from him.
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Chapter 2: Why are phones considered too loud?
Ich schaue nicht so oft auf die Geschichten. Weißt du, ich... Bist du ein großer Geschichte-Typ? Ich bin ein großer Geschichte-Typ.
Du wüsstest das, wenn du auf meine Geschichten klickst. Keine Ahnung.
Keine Ahnung.
So Mina does do something though. The story she posts, which I click on because I'm a good friend, keeping up with my friends.
She doesn't do it for her husband though. I wonder if her husband would be hurt by the fact that she has zero interest in the art he's making. He is a producer. He is a creator. He is an artist and he is making stories about his life that his wife has no interest in.
He tells me about them in person in our house and plays the music for me and we have conversations about it. I don't... Unsere Beziehung hat wirklich nichts mit der Internetseite zu tun. Wir haben uns vor einer super sozialen Medienzeit getroffen und ich bin nicht wirklich öffentlich darüber. Und ich behalte ihn nicht durch seine Internetseite. Ich fühle mich als super selten, wenn ich das sage.
Ich bin einfach ehrlich. Das ist einfach... Wir sind einfach nicht... Pablo, du hast eine ähnliche Dynamik.
Ja, Liz ist offline. Liz ist offiziell offline.
Ja, aber sie ist auch sehr überrascht, dass ihr Mann so viel auf der Bühne ist, um seine künstlerische Augen auf Fotos zu zeigen.
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Chapter 3: Is listening at 1.5x speed crazy?
Du runnst es schnell. Ich runne andere schnell, aber ich brauche einen glacialen Puls für die Arbeit, die ich mache, ist, was ich sage. Ich mache etwas, was so deliberativ wert ist. Und ich hasse es, dass andere Leute mir und ihnen, was ich tue, zu mir tun.
You're asking us to see the art in a butter sculpture? That's what you're asking us to do? Don't speed through it. Let it melt slow.
Don't let it melt fast.
Does Dan have a draft pick or is Dan just going to sit there? As I say, Miene Keim Show listeners, we spent an hour and 45 minutes Like breaking down Patriots, Bills, Jags, Raiders this week. If you want to listen to that at 1.75 speed, more power to you. My kings and queens.
I do have a draft pick. My draft pick is, thou shalt offer a little insight as a treat so that I don't feel like all I'm doing... is consuming things that are empty calories, that when I put down my devices and put everything away, I have nothing to offer the world as learning. Any little bit of insight learning, I would like to be a part of, if my empty calorie experience consumes me.
There is also, Mina, the subtext of that, which is that sometimes people will hint at things. They'll be like, guess what? I got a new job, significant other, whatever else. And then they'll just disappear or stop posting about that. And people will be like, so what happened?
Und Dan weint für den menschlichen Kontext, um dieses Ding, das du mir gesagt hast, wichtig war, aber es ist jetzt weg in deinem Leben. Was ist denn mit dem? Sollten wir die Leute nicht verantwortlich halten, die Posts, die sie machen, in Bezug auf Kontinuitätserrungen, ist das, was dieses Vorgehen auch suggeriert.
Got it. You want us all to be grief eaters. Plumbing the depths of each other.
If a person that you love has disappeared, tell me why.
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Chapter 4: Should people post more unedited photos?
Like personal risk, like it's a dangerous thing to do this. And the people who walk in and are basically acting like they're internet commenters, but also your boss. Like it's just incredibly off-putting. Not that the NFL is a sacred place, but simply that it feels gross that you would not have some level of respect as to what your employees are sacrificing for you.
Die Kraftdynamik ist wirklich interessant, weil, und das ist etwas, wenn wir darüber nachdenken, I don't laugh. But when people say, wow, nobody's going to take the Jets' job or no one's going to take the Jags' job, yeah, they will. There's 32 of these jobs, right? A lot of people are going to want to take them. GMs, coaches, this article won't change.
Maybe if you're a guy like Ben Johnson who has his pick of teams, the opposite coordinator for Detroit, you'd be deterred by this. But for the most part, they're not going to. And Pablo, it's the same thing with the players. There's such a power imbalance here because these jobs are... so rare and they've worked their whole lives for them and the owners know that, you know?
When you say the Lakers small family business, obviously that's a silly thing to say, but at least in that scenario, it is the one business that family has had and grown up in and they have no other businesses. In the cases that we're talking about, The team ownership is the thing on the side from the other wealth. The games are the actual toy.
This rich family has a series of players that we can consider human and amazing, but this is the toy as the side business. So when you add the power dynamic to that, Spoiled teenage kids could arrive in a place when they think the athletes are like family pets. You can kick the dog if you're coming home to a house where nobody actually respects the dog.
And there's the dysfunction in the house where there's anger. Like this thing is a toy to a Woody Johnson that while he lives in the shadows, I think most of us know to be a clown. Es ist auch ein Job, der... Es könnte sein... Ich meine, Gott, sind da andere Beispiele als...
Corporate America, I mean, where somebody can be quote-unquote running something and have zero qualifications, zero experience, never climb the ladder to get there. And some owners recognize that. I want to be... Hörte Geschichten von Unternehmern, die gesagt haben, cool, ich weiß nichts, Hands off, hier ist mein Geld.
Das ist der Traum. Das ist, übrigens, jeder GM, den du mitgemacht hast, wird sagen, sie lieben nichts mehr als einen Unternehmer, der das tatsächlich tut.
Es gibt Leute wie das.
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