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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I was going to go with the color brown. Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Turns out that termite farts contain methane, and termites apparently produce 1-3% of all of our methane gas emissions. So termite farts are causing climate change.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Football season is here, and there's absolutely nothing better than game day. But it can be a little bit stressful. You're placing bets, you're setting fantasy lineups, you're figuring out the most comfortable position to sit on your couch for the next 12 hours. No one has time to think about this part. Cooking. Well, thanks to DoorDash, you don't have to worry about that.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Did you get lost on the way to Home Depot today, Dan? Like, what's going on with the plants?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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You look like you're about to ask me to, like, check the oil on my car. Get him. Or, like, come over and, like, look around and point things in my house that need to be fixed.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Well, why is it called the letting of a pet?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Oh, like the sound maybe? I'm just trying to understand the... Yeah, don't try to make sense of it.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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No, it is just farts, but I, we have a little bit, we don't have any real husband and I parenting disagreements yet. Our child is too young to make difficult decisions around, right? Like when it comes to actually discipline and things like that. But he does do something that is concerning to me and I fear will breed bad habits, which is whenever my kid farts, my husband just applauds.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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And I think now he thinks it's something, At this point, it's just all Pavlovian. Everything he thinks is just in response to what sort of reaction it engenders. And I'm worried he's going to come away thinking this is a good thing.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Yeah, it was so crazy when that happened, too, because Steve Sagnolo, the chief defense coordinator, we always talk about how great he is, right? But I also think, and it manifests itself in the creativity and timing and strangeness of some of these pressures, but I also think that he almost sequences them

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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like an offensive coordinator like how we think of kyle shanahan he's calling this run to set up this you know play action pass later and then he's going to use the same formation and i think spagnola does similar things because on that drive the previous play they zero blitz them the bills had the right call as a screen to amari cooper just unfortunately he tripped and didn't get the first down and it really looked like they were going to zero him again and i think alan thought he would have the shallow cross and they just looked totally unprepared for what ended up happening and it was a reminder that

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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the Chiefs defensive coordinator not becoming a head coach has been such a pivotal part of this dynasty.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I mean, I am really excited about the Ben Johnson hire in Chicago because I don't think and Dominique and I kind of disagree about this sometimes. I don't think it's like a knee jerk. You got to hire the hot young coordinator with the best offense. I understand that sometimes that doesn't work. Sometimes you want more of a CEO type coach or defensive minded head coach.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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But watching that offense in Detroit the last couple of years and then watching what Caleb had to deal with this year I'm really interested in seeing like a more quarterback friendly offense for him. And I think it's going to be really successful.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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So how many teams can you say that like when when people are like, hey, I'm really hopeful like this Jags coach is going to really get the most out of Trevor Lewis and people go, excuse me, it's the Jaguars. We're like, what percentage of teams can you actually pull that for?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I know. He came out in that press conference. He was like, buckle up your seatbelts. I was like, all right, a little bit of a strange image because you're a Jet and you're countering turbulence if you have a seatbelt. But then he was like, this is Jets football. And I'm like, Aaron, you know what Jets football connotes, right? And he said it like it was a good thing.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I think smart in a lot of ways. Like with all these coaches, when they're hired, I always give this sort of cowardly caveat. I don't know if he's going to be a good leader, but it's true. We really don't know with a lot of these guys if they're going to be the next Sean McVay or – insert at an Urban Meyer.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Well, we knew about Urban Meyer, but I think with Carroll, the advantage you have is like we already know the guy is like an unbelievable leader. He is beloved by players. I also think, you know, he has a proven track record with the young quarterback. He's very, very smart at coaching defense.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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The only concern I would have is if you're the Raiders and you're drafting a young quarterback, how long is he going to be the head coach? But other than that, I thought it was a pretty good hire.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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People do that. How many times can you not do that? I guess, like, the four remaining playoff teams? I'll make a list. I'll get back to you.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Well, is that the question? I think he's very old and maybe there's an old timey definition of that term. This has actually happened with Jerry Jones before where he's used a term and everyone was like, wait, what? And then it turned out to be something that was like,

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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What a great, though, like microcosm of the Dallas Cowboys in general, right? Like stuck in the past and two people are too afraid to tell the owner.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I think. First of all, the coaching matchup is really fascinating. Remember in the previous, or a couple of questions ago, when I said, oh, I can't wait to see this young, brilliant, offensive mind, Ben Johnson. And I really do think that that's going to work out. But then you look at the Super Bowl, and it's like a bunch of old dogs.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I mean, minus Kellen Moore, it's Andy Reid, Vic Fangio, Steve Spagnuolo. old, brilliant coaches. And I think that that's cool. I think the battle between Reid and Fangio in particular is really intriguing to me. I think you've got one team with the best quarterback, and then you have one team that clearly has a better team in the Philadelphia Eagles.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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That's interesting to me because it always sort of tests the importance of the quarterback position. Not that Patrick Mahomes' team, I think he has good players, but I'm just saying like the Eagles are on paper the better team, but I suspect a lot of people are going to pick the Chiefs just because they have the better quarterback.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Teams you can't dismiss anymore, Commanders, Bucks, Lions. But people don't do that with the Giants. People, like, when someone says, oh, it seems like, you know, the Shitter Sanders is going to be great there. People aren't like, excuse me, sir. It's the Giants.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Glory Hole would be a great name for, well, I'm sure that there are bars named after it, but like a stadium, like a college football stadium, like, you know, come to the city.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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The Glory Hole, where legends are made. Come on by, you never know who's on the other side.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Well, the way you phrased it is insulting to him. But the actual intent of the question is, how many people rank higher in their positions across the league than you would rank Jalen Hurts, quarterback? And it is not actually about Jalen, because I think everyone believes he's at minimum a top 15 quarterback.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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It's really about the Eagles being an all-star team, which is what you're alluding to, right? Multiple positions on the offensive line, they have top...

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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some top one but top five players aj brown is top five receiver dallas goddard maybe top five tight end is a little bit out of it at this point saquon barkley top one or two running back that's ridiculous so you're looking at least like four or five players dan who are like all pro pro bowl level at their positions

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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That's such a good, you're so good at this. That's such a good question. How has first take never done that?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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But the comparison to Miami is so great because it shows you it's not really about the quarterbacks. Like the fact that the Miami Dolphins offense fell apart without Tua doesn't mean that, oh, my God, Tua's worth every penny. Although I think you certainly see his value to the offense in some ways. It shows you how horribly constructed the offense is, right? I mean, you watch that offense.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I've seen Tyler Huntley have success with the Baltimore Ravens as a backup quarterback. It must be this insanity. bagels that one year. But you watch them in the Miami Dolphins and you realize, man, Miami, did I say Dolphins? Dolphins offense. It's so fragile. It's so reliant on the fact that the quarterback throws the ball quickly. That's not a good thing.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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It's great that the quarterback does, but you don't want an offense that completely falls apart if you can't have a quarterback who throws the ball in less than two and a half seconds.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I think you're right. I'm going to walk back. I think you would go with Hurts. But I don't think anyone could do what Saquon's doing behind that offensive line.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I don't know their faces that well.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Who's that? I don't need to do it. I don't know who this man is. That's Dallas Clark.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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He looks like Tim Allen. I was going to say the same thing.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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That's, I know the actors.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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You don't know the actors. Is this Roadhouse?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Dallas something would be my guess.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I've never seen Roadhouse. Good game. That was fun.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I mean, do you really have to see Roadhouse to guess what Roadhouse is about?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I think you could make a poll. You could poll three people in an office and say that it's a representative sample of America. I was thinking about this, though. Who was it? I think it was Jim Brown, so it must have been CBS, who was thrown into some new show they have with Morris Chestnut. And he was like, Fox, you won't believe it. He's a doctor. And I'm like, but he's also...

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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He's also a detective.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Yeah. Why not?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Why? Just because Finn?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I think it's pretty clear the dolphins shouldn't be anywhere near cold weather.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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This iteration of it.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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You're trying to get the show to send you to Spain?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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No, I just wanted to thank you guys again for mentioning my show. If you're in Los Angeles, it's next Monday. We still have some tickets available. Double your tickets will be donated to charity. It's minapodlive.com to get tickets for details. We got merch. I'll be excited to meet you, hang out a little bit. So, yeah, Tom.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Yeah, a couple of my favorite pods slash friends will be there with me. Greg Rosenthal and Jordan Rigg from NFL Daily. And then my friends who are Eagles fans, Chris. So we'll see how this goes. Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald, pardon me, from The Ringer. 100% of proceeds go to Wildfire Relief here in Los Angeles. Wow.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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She feels bad. It's so hard to watch. I think he's going to be a good coach, but yeah, it's a tough watch. Duval. Oh, stop it.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I can't find the story that you were talking about, Dan, regarding royalty and blaming farts on others, but there is a story of Queen Elizabeth apparently farting and then blaming the horses.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: Jerry Jones, Bill Belichick, and Cyber Squatting (feat. Dianna Russini)

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should be let's start in baltimore what do we know about the availability of safe flowers Saturday night against the Steelers hey Nina get it girl go back one more time there.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Did you get lost on the way to Home Depot today, Dan? Like, what's going on with the plants?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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You look like you're about to ask me to, like, check the oil on my car. Get him. Or, like, come over and, like, look around and point things in my house that need to be fixed.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I think it is kind of boring for a stretch and then really heats up at the end.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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That's how I would say it, yeah. Which is always a hard sell for people. Like when you're recommending a TV show and you're like, the first few episodes suck or season one is bad. It's always... You can always skip the pods. The pods, like, it's so boring. A lot of pods. A lot of pods this season, yeah.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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The best episodes always, though, are when everybody meets each other around like nine or 10, like all the people who were rejected or didn't make it to the tropical location.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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So like when they have the big meetup. Yeah.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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What city is it this season, Mina? It's Minneapolis. And that's the other thing I found interesting. It's like very, very Minnesota. Yeah.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I haven't started that. That has been recommended to me. Weirdly, my husband decided that this moment in history was a great time to start The Man in the High Castle, which is... Do you know what the premise of that is, Dan?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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It's based on, I believe, a Philip K. Dick novel or short story collection or something. And it's basically what would happen if America lost World War II and the Nazis won?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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What would happen? That would be better.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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This is a little old, but if you haven't watched it, Dan, I think you and Valerie would like Black Doves on Netflix. Did you watch that?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Oh, it's really good. It's Keira Knightley. Ben Whishaw is one of my favorite actors. He plays Paddington. And it's just a six episode limited series. It's about like spies and double crossing. It's weirdly kind of a Christmas show. It takes place in London during Christmas, but it's really, really, really entertaining.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I had an idea, a pitch for 007 from years ago. Maybe it doesn't really apply right now, but the idea derived from one of my favorite movies of all time, which is Edge of Tomorrow. Have you guys seen that with Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt? One of the best movies ever made.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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So he's great in it. But Emily Blunt is fantastic as like the badass super soldier. And I thought after I watched that, that she should be 007. She's British, too.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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From their perspective, you mean? I think it makes sense. I think... The only question I had as to whether or not they would stick with Darnold was if they had any concerns internally about JJ McCarthy, his health coming back from, you know, pretty brutal injury, what they're seeing internally. I had some conversations in Indianapolis that led me to believe they're pretty confident about him.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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They feel good about... Is there music? Is the music playing? Are you playing the fast music?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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No, I'm not gonna go faster. This has already been- You've gotta respect the music. What do you mean? No, I don't respect the music. Stand strong, Mina. Do not respect the music. I don't respect the music.

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Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I was thinking about this at the Oscars when like the, you know, costume people are up and they start playing the music and like what it takes, the mental fortitude it takes to just continue like blazing past it. And I thought I'd be pretty good at that because I do it on this show all the time. So I am not surprised because I think they drafted McCarthy where they did for a reason. They like him.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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I also think that, you know, the benefit of having the quarterback on that sort of rookie contract is you have all this freed up money to spend on things they need to spend on, like the interior offensive line. It doesn't make sense to me to have, you know, it would be more than $40 million. I think Sam Darnold's probably going to get at least two years guaranteed of over $60 million.

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Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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So I'm not surprised the Vikings didn't. I think it was the right move.

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Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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It depends for whom, I guess. Unnecessary for viewers? That's a good question, but...

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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So what's... Not wrong about throwing. I think that it's very debatable whether or not the top prospects have to actually do that kind of thing. But the reason they're there is for the meetings and the medicals, Greg. So the teams all in one place get a chance to meet the guy that they're going to invest in their entire future in. And also the medicals.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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This was actually the original purposes of the comment was really the medicals. And that's why it happens every year and will continue to happen.

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Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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It all depends on whether or not he's willing to hold out because the sense that I get from being there, and that's why we're there, by the way, is just to gossip essentially for a week. The Browns have no intention or interest in moving on from him. So this could get really ugly if he is actually willing to hold out. And that is an open question.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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It would cost them a lot, but if it was for actual freight of draft picks, which I haven't heard any packages being thrown out, they should do it because they're a rebuilding team. They should at least consider it, pardon me, if it's a lot, but I haven't heard any rumors that any team is willing. I just think other teams don't find it to be that believable at the moment.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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And again, as with all these guys, it's all about his willingness to make it messy, Dan. And like, it's easier said than done. I mean, one of my first stories ESPN the magazine was that Drell Rivas, who was the king of mess, right? And I came away from that. And of course, one of the greatest, moneymakers this league has ever seen, and a guy who literally won, right, every time.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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And I came away from that story believing the reason he was capable of that wasn't his ability, but his absolute, like, the steel he had in his personality, not caring about the influence of media, fans, family members, teammates. Derral Ruvis truly did not care.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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And I think for Myles Garrett, it's going to come down to whether or not he has that same sort of personality, which he might, by the way.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Uh... Schultz has me... Oh, no, I blocked him. Ooh, people are going to make a thing about this. I should have said that.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Yeah, so I'm a little bit biased. My favorite part of that encounter was Jeremy Fowler, who I work with, just trying to disassociate in the background of the photo. I don't know if you guys noticed that. He looked like that Marco Rubio in the couch, just...

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So we're team Fowler then, okay.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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Yeah, team Fowler, yeah.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Jessica Barfs Up Her Sandwich (feat. Mina Kimes)

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Desperation on both sides.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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I think they're going to roll with Wilson or Fields again. I was surprised. I mean, it ultimately didn't matter, and maybe this is why it shouldn't have been surprising, that they weren't more aggressive about Matthew Stafford the way the Giants were, and the Giants absolutely were.

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Like, they really wanted to take a shot at that because I feel like the only path that the Steelers have to actually getting over the hump last year would have been to take an aggressive swing at Stafford. But, you know, it obviously is debatable whether or not that possibility even existed.

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I saw that. Uh... He looked like he enjoyed it a lot. First, I'll say that, which I was surprised to see the level of enthusiasm you had to bang that drum. No, I think it's okay. I've thought about this, Dan, because I've never been asked. The Seahawks have this thing called raising the 12th man flag, and I have wondered, would I do that? I think I wouldn't, but my job is different from yours.

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I'm football specific. I just feel like the Homer allegations would be too intense for me. I think you're fine. You're not a hockey reporter.

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Wait, is that the sound he made?

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I was just about to say, I do not want to think about the other context in which Dan makes that sound.

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Play the sound again and focus on Jessica's face.

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I was on NFL Island with him yesterday.

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He was in Hawaii. He went to Disneyland too. He had the misfortune of going to Disneyland on the one day in Los Angeles it rained.

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I think it's an interesting one because I do think that it might take some movement on their part with the quarterbacks. I do think I know there's going to be interest in a rookie. To me, they seem like the Sam Darnold destination. So if I had to make a prediction now, I could be wrong. I would say Sam Darnold plus a rookie who's not one of the top two guys.

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The Titans dream, how they would love for this to play out is that one of the, so I guess the Giants or the Browns panics and tries to get to 1-1 to take Cam Ward. Everybody I've talked to, To a man has agreed Cam Ward is QB1 in this draft. There's several teams that are interested in him.

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So for the Titans, the way I view this draft, and I think most people do, there's two truly, truly elite players, Abdul-Qadir, the pass rusher, and Travis Hunter. If they can just stay in the top three while maneuvering down and grabbing picks, they can still get one of those two players. And I don't think you can go wrong with either of those players.

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So upsetting.

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Did you get lost on the way to Home Depot today, Dan? Like, what's going on with the plants?

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You look like you're about to ask me to, like, check the oil on my car.

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Or, like, come over and, like, look around and point things in my house that need to be fixed.

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Yeah, it's been an absolutely wild 24 hours. I am in my friend's guest room right now. There's a travel crib behind me for the YouTube audience, if you're wondering what that is. And I don't know. It's just been absolutely surreal, guys. I was flying back from Newark two nights ago. when the fires really started kicking off on Tuesday night.

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And we got the plane and there were some news reports at the time, but I think everybody kind of assumed because we were being allowed to fly and land, it couldn't be that bad. And then you could see the plane sort of apprehend what was going on. And people were finding out on the plane that their houses, their friends' houses were burning to the ground. And overnight, my husband

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And my infant child came here because our house is pretty close to the second fire on the east side. And then last night, another fire sprang up pretty close near here. But luckily, they were able to put it out pretty quickly because the winds had done so much here in Los Angeles. But it's just been... an absolutely surreal 36 hours or so.

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Fortunately, things seem to be turning around a little bit, largely because the winds have died down. But I just, I mean, my son's friend's house burned to the ground. Everybody in their neighborhood lost their houses. It's just friends, family friends, people we know just up in flames. I've just never seen anything like this in my life.

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People in L.A. are obviously very acutely aware of the fire risk. It's not new, particularly in the Malibu Palisades area. But I think to just have that visually manifest itself so immediately, um, the dryness combined with the unusualness of the winds.

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And, and, and that was, I mean, we always get these Santa Ana winds, but this is, I don't know if I could say like once in a decade or whatnot, but the strength of them, the eroticism of them, that was the craziest part guys. Like on, on Tuesday, by the way, I flew by the fire and it literally looked like Mordor, like Lord of the Rings or something, but, um, it, which was just surreal, but,

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I think what the craziest part was on Tuesday, seeing the fires burning and growing at this amazing rate, watching the local news and hearing them say, we can't fight this right now because we can't put helicopters in the sky because of these winds was just stunning.

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Because I think with, you know, natural disasters or any kind of events like that, we're so used to authority figures just being able to fight them. But we were talking about something, these winds that nobody has any control over. And it was just absolutely heartbreaking to see that.

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Yeah, it's been a really fun month, I guess, until now for me, both at ESPN and doing some project outside of ESPN. The Simpsons game that we got to call was one of the more fun experiences of my life as a longtime Simpsons fan. Working on Christmas was pretty surreal. And now we're in the playoffs. Like I said, I was in Newark. I was on the East Coast.

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doing nfl live from bristol um earlier this week and it's been a whirlwind i suppose and we're supposed to do by the way nfl live in la on monday but as you guys i'm sure are aware it's pretty touch and go right now they're considering moving the game to phoenix and i think we won't find out um for a second what happens there with the rams game

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The coolest thing probably was doing the Simpsons game because as part of that experience, I got to know the Simpsons showrunner and one of their writers. And we were going back and forth all up to the game with just jokes and references. And that was just such a cool experience for me personally. But doing the Netflix game, it was a ton of fun.

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You know, it was really unusual in that you're working with a bunch of people you've never worked with before. And I think it was... It made me realize, oh, wow, doing NFL Live now for five years with the same crew, you don't get that many opportunities like that in television these days where there's so much.

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People always talk about the chemistry, but beyond that, just kind of that inbuilt trust and comfort and working with each other, knowing when people are going to talk and whatnot. So it was a novel experience with me to kind of be, I guess, you know, confident. I feel bad comparing it to like an all-star game because that implies that I'm an all-star.

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I don't want to make that implication, but it was, it was really like, okay, we're teammates now.

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And the other thing that was very wild about it, Dan was again on NFL live and all my shows, I usually have a lot of time to talk, but I realized on these pregame halftime shows, you don't have as much room setting aside the fact that I was deeply aware of the fact that I had 45 seconds to give a take about CJ Stroud after Beyonce,

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So, you know, over 20 million Americans were just absolutely disappointed to see my face. And I try not to let that trickle into my brain.

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You know, the game, I just got so wrapped up in the game so quickly that I kind of lost sight of the context because they were just quarterbacks. I love watching and I was really interested in them and I got kind of locked into that. So, yeah, I think that's the fun thing about working in before, during and after games is like. So there's that energy.

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That's what's different from doing the daily studio show, right, which I love doing. But when you're before and middle and after a game, it's more closer to the action and you're just sort of tied up in exactly what's happening on the field at that moment.

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It looks like Lady Gaga at the beginning of The Star is Born where she gently peels her eyebrow off and kind of falls in love with her in that moment.

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I voted for Lamar Jackson. It was extremely close to me. It went down to the wire. I got into it on my podcast with Dominique. Lamar Jackson, I just felt like this is really what he did this year was just too hard not to vote for him.

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I don't know, man. I mean, I don't think people appreciate what he's doing, not just relative to, obviously, it's crazy, the yardage, but the fact that he is a historical anomaly in that his age and the amount of carries he has gotten, the fact that he's still producing at his level, this just does not happen in the NFL.

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Josh Allen, I would say, has a better offensive line. The Ravens offensive line is pretty good. I think his group of pass catchers is underrated. People are acting like James Cook is some schlub. He's actually been one of the better backs in the NFL this year. And Derrick Henry, I would contend, this is just statistically true, benefits more from the presence of Lamar Jackson than the reverse.

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Lamar Jackson, by the way, statistically, when Derrick Henry is not on the field, is the best quarterback in football as well.

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Which part? The Tyreek Hill of it all or the constant? I mean, the Dolphins, please explain. They have to take the run game seriously this offseason or they're going to have a similar outcome next year.

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Turns out the human beings on the field matter. Offensive line matters.

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I don't care.

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I do care. This one is hard because their owner is just, like, steering the ship and, like, going in every direction and constantly pressing the red button to fire people. I mean, they have a number one overall pick. Problem is, cover yours, Mike's not a great quarterback draft. So I do think they're probably going to take quarterback.

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No, I don't think so. I just think the Steelers' offense has just been too bad as of late. Obviously, the defense has given him trouble, so I think it's going to be closer than that 9.5-point line.

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The talent up there with the highest of the highs, the unpredictability is what makes it hard to project and I think to rank him amongst wide receivers. On any given play, he could do the coolest thing you've ever seen or the dumbest.

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No, we're not doing this. Can I say something, by the way? Speaking of encouraging, I'm hearing the music and it's not phasing me at all. You might want to retire this bit because literally it's in my ears and I don't care. It's not affecting me.

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I think that the Eagles are better, but that the Ravens have a higher ceiling.

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I'm going to go Lions there, just because what they've shown on defense the last, I mean, it's just unbelievable.

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I don't think so. I think he has to bounce back. He's a very streaky quarterback, though.

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A very young team that looks like a young team that has a lot of talent, great coach, good quarterback, but some flaws.

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It's both, but I think that the latter has led to the former. I think he'll bounce back next year.

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Philadelphia, but it's close.

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Uh, no.

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It's great to see you guys.

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He bullied my aunt's brother in high school.

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This is my favorite part about adult parties. If I'm the organizer is watching people from different worlds speak to each other. And like, yeah, I enjoy that.

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I have in the past. I'll get like a room at a bar. But we do house parties for me. A couple years ago, before I got pregnant, rager. Absolute rager.

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That's not how I sound. Damn slur. No, no. If anything, I am incredibly nice and overly complimentary.

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No, no, no, no, no, no. What? That's a horrible impression, first of all. Secondly, if anything, I was like, Pablo, you're doing great. Everything's great.

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Um, so it's not one story. It's obviously just more like a broader news story that's being written about a great deal. But I am curious to hear your guys' thoughts on the TikTok ban, which as of this recording, TikTok is available because the president of the United States signed an executive order basically delaying the ban, the ban, pardon me, um,

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It's unclear to me, even after reading about 20 articles, what is legal and what's not in terms of whether or not he can actually stop it, because this was something that Congress passed a law, the Supreme Court.

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By the way, like just to for folks who haven't followed, I guess I should lay out the reason why Congress did so is this belief that a foreign government shouldn't control like a major U.S. media outlet. It's less about actually propaganda and more about their ability to collect information. And you can collect a whole lot of information on people based on TikTok usage.

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So I am not overconfident. I am enjoying this period where we can take him to restaurants while he lasts, while it lasts, pardon me, but I have no compunctions about it going on forever.

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And the crazy thing that happened too is like we live in a world in which Congress doesn't agree on anything. The Supreme Court doesn't agree on anything. It was like unanimous, right? So both sides of the aisle were like, yeah, this seems bad. The Supreme Court was like, yeah, this is probably a bad idea. So just that's the backstory for people to know.

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We do have bigger problems.

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Well, for me, that was kind of like, in some ways, my experience of this story over the last week was, first, I was a little bit put off. I'm like, put off by the fact this was like the biggest story in America on a moment when things that I felt were much more significant were happening, other executive orders, other things.

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But, you know, I think as I've kind of read more, or not read more, but thought more about it, I do think setting aside the legality aspect of it, I would like to hear your guys' thoughts on... I don't know whether you think it's like a bad or a good thing, I guess, if it goes away.

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There's one thing I have noticed with our kid. He just likes food when it's better. Yeah. Like, he vastly prefers restaurant food. When we take him to a restaurant, he eats everything. And then when we're home and Nick, like, makes him something in the moment, like, grills some salmon, he will eat it.

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Well, that's the other side of it. So yeah, I think most of the legal case seems to be about the kind of data collection side. But the other side is like, you know, the Chinese government is involved in these things and they have influence over their companies. And there's been a lot of studies about whether or not that's affected the actual content put out on TikTok.

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And I found a lot of it to be pretty convincing and incredible, by the way. I guess for me, to go back to kind of what Katie said about like, just... Setting aside, again, the data side, let's just kind of cut to like, is this a net good or a net bad? That's kind of what I'm thinking through.

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And Pablo, you hit on something which is, I think, a point in his favor, which it does seem like a more positive place in a lot of social media. I guess for me, I kind of have two thoughts or two ideas in my head. head at once, one of which is, I think, Katie, you're right. There is a lot of actually lovely content on there.

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When we are in a hurry and we'll, like, reheat stuff, like frozen meatballs, he'll, like, be like, mm, mm, nah, nah. Which is... Funny, because, like, I guess that means he's, like, an adult, right?

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I've watched things about parenting and cooking and science and educational things. So it's not a wasteland devoid of culturally significant or enlightening content. It's there, right? But I am still so profoundly uncomfortable with the fact that so many people get not just their news, but how they feel about major events, stories, public figures.

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Your point is dictated not by facts, but by an algorithm. It's by what's popular. And that's where I really feel like it's largely a net negative. And that to me kind of outweighs the good things that I'm seeing.

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sometimes unintentionally, or maybe had some kind of artistic talent that they never would have found a platform for elsewhere. And I think that's all true. My problem is sort of that it had become... sort of overtaken by, one, the fact that so many people started treating it as a business and are just selling you stuff or just, you know, shoveling shit.

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And the fact that, you know, it has replaced a lot of traditional media in functions that I don't think it's capable of or prepared for. But that goes beyond TikTok, of course, Pablo. That's, you know, all of social media is a news source. So I think it's just it still does great things, but it also became everything for people. And I think that's not a good thing.

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I think he's going to play something. Oh, fair enough. Do you want me to play it? This is my other favorite thing about TikTok that I will miss when it goes away, which is the universal experience of playing a TikTok you love for everyone else. You guys are out of your mind.

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I want to be clear here. I do not believe my child has a uniquely sophisticated palate. I think, yeah, like, have you ever, like... So how do we feel about, while we're on this topic, when people do like IG posts about their child, but like long, like, like, dear Cassandra, you're four today. I can't, I can't handle it. You love early Miles Davis and grilled cheese, but only with Gruyere.

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I'm so confused by this game.

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Like once a year, somebody puts out NFL quarterbacks as women. Right. And then it just immediately turns into who's the hottest.

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Candy. That's probably Candy Reid. I'm not getting a candy vibe. Yeah.

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Andy Reid famously makes like a six cheese macaroni.

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This is almost identical to male CJ Stroud.

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This just looks like C.J. Stroud.

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A little. A little bit. I mean, just turned into a curl. Pablo, this is a thing on Instagram and TikTok that many, that women use, where all, it's like a filter is where you just get lashes. And that's what happened here, right? It's like, it'll have, they always have names like light makeup. Or flawless filter.

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And then you put it on, you're like, whoa! Yesified. But that, this just looks like CJ's job with lashes. Yeah. What's next?

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Okay, so this brings me to an interesting memory that I feel like everybody has forgotten, which is, do you remember when Travis Kelsey shaved his beard and America was like, is he actually hot? I don't remember this.

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And I feel like, why are you trying to make your child sound like sophisticated, right? Just,

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Nobody remembers this. One, like, this is pre-Taylor Swift, obviously.

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This girl, yeah, this girl pointed out in front of everyone that my Doc Martens were not real Doc Martens.

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The stitches are the wrong color. Damn. What stitches, Katie? What stitches?

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For various reasons, perhaps it's our shared DNA. Perhaps that's the reason. I've done this, when we did this back with HQ and we did the male version, I looked a lot like Isaac, I remember. I don't think I would look like my brother at all.

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I see Jimmy Garoppolo.

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That's a big win for you. Thank you, guys.

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Some are saying. Looks a little bit like Henry Cavill. Wow, that now looks a lot, now that I'm looking at it.

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What if the technology did it to Myrtle, too, and you just couldn't tell the difference?

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My main objection is just the, like, the positioning of your, it's like making your dating profile. I know it sounds weird for your child where you're trying to make them sound more interesting than they really are. Like, if they were honest, it would be like, dear Nino, like, you love shitting on everything. You are passionate about loud noises, right?

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She looks like my primary rival for valedictorian in high school. We're both doing, you know, extra studies to try to jack up our GPAs.

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The worst is when you play one that you're like, this is so funny. And then you play it in front of a group of people and they don't. I did a whole episode of that.

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Okay. What about this then? Listen, we've all, no, don't do it.

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I gotta go guys. I gotta go do NFL stuff.

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I found out that Pablo did not go to a lot of parties. And did I really find that out? Because I could have guessed it. All right. Bye, guys.

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Bye, Mina. Love you.

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You like bright neon colors.

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Wait, Katie, there's a guy in Miss Rachel's crew who looks exactly like Pablo. Show her the guy. Okay.

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He's a Filipino guy.

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Okay, so I think this article is interesting. I will say, the party city is closing as evidence.

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Who has ever thrown an adult party and gone to party city? It's honestly purely the Provence of children's events and goodie bags.

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Yeah. Super Bowl week is a big... Big party week. For me, I am definitely bringing down that average because I don't go to many parties anymore. I don't think you guys speak to your own experiences outside of children's parties, which are beginning to happen, which is a whole separate thing. Children's parties, though, I got to say, and Pablo, you can speak to this more.

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They're really adult parties because I guess in L.A. is such. Everybody now has to go to every party, Katie. That's different. So when we were kids, it was like, ooh, like a big, like who's invited?

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Now everybody's got to go to every party. Everybody gets a trophy. Yeah. Which means every weekend you just see the same parents and you sit around drinking beers at like 3 p.m. watching your children just like rip each other apart. And I got to say, I love it. My husband and I were talking about this. We were like, this is the dream.

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We're just sitting around making small talk with like a set designer from Pasadena, having some, you know, hard seltzers, eating their home state tacos. I love it. But the Super Bowl thing is a big deal for me because I don't go to like late night drinking type parties. Except for like three times a year at the Super Bowl, the Combine and the draft, which are unfortunately in succession.

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So it's like a very intense. It's like the closest thing in my life to like those Alabama sorority rush weeks where by the end my liver is like because I'm so unused to partying that hard.

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Huge still. I keep waiting for him to get smaller, and it's not happening. In fact, our latest weigh-in, he actually went up to 93rd percentile.

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Yeah, I grew up in a major house party high school culture. Not that I was invited to many of them.

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Speaking of that, they're just here for the house. Once, one weekend, when I went to Washington, D.C. to be a presidential scholar— My parents went with me. And my brother famously threw like the biggest house party our town had ever seen at our house. And it was like... The kind of house party that people talk about for years, like da-da-da. And he—so my brother was a lot closer than me.

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He took photos of everything in the house. He hired professional cleaners. So we come home, and it's like nothing has happened. So my parents come home from this, like, nerd thing I went to with me, and we're walking through the house, and my mom, sometimes she's just like, something's off. And she noticed like the smallest, tiniest difference. Something had been moved.

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He's into everything, which is great. But he eats really what we eat. But... I am not trying to be cocky about it because I have heard too many horror stories of, and you can weigh in here, obviously, babies who were like, parents who were like, oh, our child loves like, you know, Sichuan food and like escargot. And then all of a sudden, they turn two and they only want chicken fingers.

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And my brother cracked immediately when she called him out on it.

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I do throw myself a birthday party every year.

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All right. So there are currently two Mall of America employees trying to tape my phone to my bra inside, to be specific, so that when I go down the zip line, I'll be able to give you my take without losing it.

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this guy's doing, you know, great, credible, life-saving work is also making an argument that I have heard a lot when people talk about USAID and talk about soft power, which is there is an economic case for this when you consider the return on investment relative to the tiny, tiny bit of investment.

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And it's, by the way, no small coincidence that all these cuts are targeting things like that and not the actual things that it would take to shrink government spending. That's where I struggle with is just like dealing in a world where it seems like logic doesn't matter anymore or cases like this can't be actually conveyed or impactful. I think that's what I struggle with personally.

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But that's, I mean, I don't mean to get all existential.

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I didn't do shit, by the way. I just screenshot an article and sent it out. But that's... There's a larger conversation today about, like, the role we have in terms of, like, we are now the pipes, right? Especially as... Correct. The reason I even screenshotted that is because I was like, how is nobody talking about this article?

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It really felt like this story had not gotten a lot of exposure, and that's the only reason... that I focused on it.

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And now back to sports. Although this is a big story that's a little bit bigger than sports. It cuts to some, I think, social and cultural questions. So I was in the Indianapolis Combine last week, and... something that happens a lot coming out of the combine is gossip, right?

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Gossip, tea, reports, anonymous sources talking about how certain players, high-profile players, perform in these interviews. Because this is the function of the combine, the primary function. It's not the workouts, although guys can certainly lift their draft stock by crushing it in that regard. No, it's like

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What happens in these rooms when these teams that are about to make these huge franchise-altering decisions come face-to-face with college kids? So the, unsurprisingly, the biggest... and source of controversy and reporting was none other than Colorado quarterback Shador Sanders, the son of Deion Sanders.

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There was a Matthew Berry column where he talked about things he learned at the Combine, and he had a note in there about, first he had a note saying teams really loved Cam Ward, who everyone thinks is going to be the first quarterback taken. Then he had a second note saying two teams told him they did not like Shador Sanders. They found him to be unprofessional.

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I believe that was the word he used. Then a post that kind of went viral from Josina Anderson, who's an NFL reporter, who, I'll just read the beginning of it, says, I am disappointed to hear that a quarterback's coach from a team drafting in the top seven referred to Shearer Sanders as coming off brash and arrogant, made his assessment known to a bunch of people.

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So she talks, it's a very long post where she alludes to potential biases in the industry. It's a little bit confusing because what she's alluding to wasn't, reported she's criticizing a critique that is anonymous.

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I would say overconfident is kind of how I would characterize it. I think what's being asked is, where is the line between cocky and confident? And how is that line inflected by... racial stereotypes and biases in that regards. Sanders in particular being Deion Sanders' son and everything that comes with that.

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And a third element that I think throws an interesting wrench into all of this, which is the possibility that the Sanders family would like Shador to end up with a specific team, which might be influencing how he's acting in interviews. And that has nothing to do with historical stereotypes around quarterbacks or whatnot. This is a very specific situation. So there is a lot going on here, Dan.

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I guess let's start, I would love to know how you interpreted this whole story, this controversy, having said all of that, because I obviously have a lot of my own thoughts.

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Yeah, it's like he has to lubricate his entire body to be involved in this. I don't know. It's just something, I just don't like watching it, that's all. I don't like watching people brush their hair. I don't like watching people put in contacts is a thing that I find really rewarding.

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So I raised my eyebrows a little bit when Dan used the phrase kind of like his confidence is earned because I think that is quietly what's driving a lot of this, which is to say, I had a lot of conversations with people in Indianapolis, not about, I'm sure, his personality, but a lot about his play and, you know, comparing notes, basically, on the tape.

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And it's... The perceptions there are very mixed. I came out thinking the gap between him and QB Cam Ward... Pretty big. Maybe I'm wrong that all it takes is one team. But there are, we can get into it, you know, concerns that folks have about him as a prospect in the NFL.

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And I actually think that is really informing a lot of this, which is I would hypothesize that if he was a can't-miss type quarterback, like the top three even from last year, I would be very skeptical that any of this would matter at all. Like, I think, and we always go back to this kind of idea that talent begets tolerance in the NFL.

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I think the fact that he is somewhat divisive purely as a football prospect is actually leading to a lot of this skepticism. Or let me rephrase that, not leading to a lot of it, but maybe amplifying a lot of this skepticism.

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I'm so used to being around that because I work in television that at this point it doesn't bother me. But it did bother me at first, I think. I was still like a little bit put off by it. I don't know.

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When we talk about his personality here, I think there is some sensitivity because historically, a lot of the traits, some of the words being thrown about brash, overconfident, have been assigned to black quarterbacks in the past disproportionately. So when you hear that here, you know, immediately, I think Spidey sense kind of goes off. What's kind of...

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I wouldn't say funny, but ironic, though, is that who he is as a player is actually the opposite of the quarterbacks that we have assigned, the stereotypes, pardon me, that NFL teams and anonymous scouts have assigned to quarterbacks, black quarterbacks in the past, where they have over-indexed on emphasizing the athleticism at the expense of things like accuracy, football intelligence, processing, all of that.

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So to actually answer your question, I I think Schroeder-Sanders is accurate. He is tough. He is very smart. He throws with anticipation. He's a good processor. He throws over the middle of the field. He is not a great athlete, and he does not have great arm talent.

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So in some ways, there's like a little bit of Tua Tungavailoa to his game, to be honest, which is to say he wins with anticipation and accuracy, not with arm strength.

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Yeah, I'm very squeamish about all of these things.

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He's so cute. He looks the same, but little. Same haircut. This, to me, it drives home... I just think being the son of a really famous person is so complicated. And I think it leads to... a lot of different outcomes, maybe could be leading to him performing confidence in a way that maybe, I don't know, I don't want to psychoanalyze or speculate here, but I think it's very difficult.

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And yeah, I mean, the fact that he even got to this point and has continued to be is like, hard of a worker and as driven, because again, you know, I know I probably sounded like I was damning with faint praise, but to stress his football IQ, I mean, this is a kid who on tape, you see him reading coverages, post-snap, identifying the leverage defenders.

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Clearly somebody who has grown around football, been around football, pardon me, his whole life and actually leaned into that from the mental side of it. And that to me should be appealing to an NFL team.

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I'll tell you what. Having an 18-month-old, and you asked how my life is going, is very humbling for anyone who doesn't like hygienic things in public or nudity. Yeah. Especially when you're 18-month-old, just decides randomly that baths, the thing he was totally cool with for the first 18 months of his life, are now like being dipped in hot lava.

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Being like the perfect quarterback prospect is really, it's walking such a fine line of It's like being a woman, to be honest. Like, you want to be confident, but not too confident because then you're cocky. You want to be assertive, but not too assertive because then you're aggressive. You know, you want to be smart, but not too smart because then you're questioning authority.

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You know, you got to be, you want to be nice, but not too nice because then are you a pushover? It's, you know, it's just got to like be just right.

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And he will scream an ear-splitting screech unless mama, fully clothed, gets in the bath with him. So that was the thing that happened last night.

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Her husband who lives in a different place, it should be noted. I think one thing I found, there's a lot of things that are interesting about this. One thing I find interesting is, Dan, so much of the time when we think about chatbots and her, we think about, you know, the Joaquin Phoenix character being this kind of loner. This woman's not a loner. She has friends. She has a husband.

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Like, this isn't... This flies in the face a lot of stereotypes, I think, that we have around artificial intelligence and chatbots to begin with, obviously starting with her gender. So there's that element of it. It feels to me less like a woman who... is like so isolated and this is her way out. More just like, hey, this is like entertainment.

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It's like another thing she can use to like spend her time. Maybe it's a stand-in for therapy for people, you know, which is another side of the whole AI thing. That was the read I had on it. The other thing I was curious about was to how good it was. So this woman is so addicted to this product, and it is an addiction, that she's spending money on it for a subscription, but it resets every week.

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Leo forgets who she is, so she has to coach him up. She also has to coach him up to... be sexy with her because ChatGBT doesn't allow it. So she's come up with all of these workarounds for it. So much so that in the article, it links to a Reddit post she did where she teaches other people how to do this and also had some of her chats with him. Did you guys click on any of these?

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I did because I wanted to see, like, how good is this? Like, how good is that? And again, I know I've been something of an AI skeptic because just because every time people talk about how good it is and how useful it is, I go to it and I look at it. It's not good. But here's an example of a woman who's like, this is working for me. It's not good. It's like, I'm sorry.

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These chats are not, everybody always says that. Great. Show it to me when it's good. But these chats are, they're not like particularly, it's not well written. It doesn't seem personalized to me. The sexual stuff is, you could find better sexy stuff and like, you know, the erotica show. It's just, it's, it's, it's, and the guy, they're like, she was shy because his photo was, too good looking.

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It's AI slop. It doesn't look like a man. It looks like a, you know, AI drawing of a man. So that was something I found interesting because this whole article is, I mean, it's obviously good enough to suck this woman in, but I found it to be really, really bad.

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No, don't read it. This is... I didn't read this one. Oh, f***.

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I would also like to quibble with the idea that any of this is new. Like, okay, so like a woman who's not getting something from her partner, so she, you know, or maybe... wants something else or wants entertainment or wants connection, goes to the internet. I mean, chat rooms were doing this for people in the freaking early 2000s.

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The only difference now is just instead of actual humans on the other side, it's a bot who's replicating humans with glorified autocomplete.

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I just get offended by bad writing. I just do.

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This was a journey, this show. This was a real journey. I don't even remember. We're talking about a lot.

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Yeah. I guess I've, well, not learned, but in our discussion at the top... Never stop posting. I'll never stop.

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I'm going to post through it. This is next.

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A hundred years. I'm just going to keep on posting.

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I'm going to keep on posting.

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I've also learned that, by the way, it really takes, it doesn't actually, it doesn't take that much to make Dan leave. But I do think you reading that actually made him legitimately uncomfortable in a way that.

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I get a couple newsletters, one of which is the Times newsletter. I think that's the one I could probably go back. But in any case, eventually it took me back to a CNN story where it laid out what this man in Georgia is describing in detail, which is amidst the... non-discriminate cuts to USAID, and they have been, this has been reported, this is just simply fact.

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Elon Musk made claims that they were being very careful about not cutting off life-saving aid or whatever. This has all been proven to not be true. They're just slashing and burning and then figuring it out later, which has, of course, been the approach to a lot of things. So one of the things lost... in this process was this contract.

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And the story talked about how this particular company had $10 million worth of this life-saving, nutritious food in a warehouse in Georgia, ready to go, but then they couldn't ship it because all of the money had been cut off, putting the lives of hundreds of thousands of children at risk around the world. And I Yeah, it just stuck me when I first read it.

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And then I think a day later, I was still thinking about it and just the senselessness of it. So I just screenshotted those facts. Again, the facts. This is not an opinion story. This is not a column. And just shared it on Twitter, which we can talk about. I have mixed feelings about using generally.

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And then this dude, Jon Favreau, who's one of the hosts of Pod Save America, the political podcast, who's a former Obama speechwriter, reshared that. Then he got in a back and forth with Elon Musk about it, where Musk... lied and denied. And then he looked into it as well, I guess, or had his minions do. And less than a day later, they, I believe, restored that contract.

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So then there was a follow-up from CNN saying that this guy was now able to ship all of this food around the world purely because Musk saw the story and decided that he didn't want to, I don't know what motivates him these days, and decided to release the funding.

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Not all Americans can agree. This is, was to me, and the reason why I did a screenshot, I was like, this is about as straightforward as a bad thing that gets in the world and an obvious thing. It's not only just like, hey, should we help starving kids, but also we already created the capability to do this. This is not just shameful, it's wasteful and stupid, right?

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How many fans demanded this? So many. What was the outcry like?

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And I did look at some of the replies and there's people saying, It's not our job to feed the world. We need this. Teach them. Some guy said, teach a man to fish and he'll fish forever, which that one really got under my skin. And then there's this belief that we have been overtaxed in helping other people.

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We're talking about, as you just said, a very tiny amount of money in this grand scheme of things. And by the way, when this money is overtaxed, you know, saved, which is a word that I hate, it's not going to help the people who need it. It's going to give tax cuts to people like the three of us. But whatever, that's not neither here nor there.

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And look, the worst of the people are being amplified. So when I look in the replies, I am seeing the worst possible people. But it was so unbelievably disheartening just to see something that seems so simply good and right be subject to controversy and debate because of the misinformation being propagated on that platform.

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Pablo, your point about, like, this should be, like, a feel-good story. I felt good about the role that I played in this for about 15 minutes. 15 minutes. I thought, hey! All right, maybe I can use my platform to do good things. This thing happened, and it's obviously good, and I am very relieved.

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And then 15 minutes later, that sense of feeling good and feeling like I accomplished something was immediately overwhelmed by the sense that a world in which I can even do this is a bad one. It's one where we are reliant on individuals and shame and... the infinitely small possibility that those things can conspire for good things to happen. So I don't feel good about this story.

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I feel pretty damn bad about it. And it is something that has just now stuck with me days later as a vanishingly small victory in a lot of ways.

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I don't like watching anyone do anything hygienic in public or not hygienic, but like, I guess grooming or personal care, cutting their nails. I mean, I guess people don't really do that in public, but I just don't like.

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And I think this is something, again, we'll see a lot over the next four years is people who do have to continue to do business with the government, be part of this, are learning how to operate within it or doing their best, right? So there's, I think, that aspect of it.