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Pablo Torre Finds Out

One Yard at a Time: A Mystery

Tue, 27 May 2025

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Under-recruited running back from a collapsed American city — with a single mom and a dream — wins the Super Bowl. Sounds familiar, right? But NFL coach Deland McCullough’s story, as told through his new book with Sarah Spain, has a twist all its own. (Thanks to a little help from Sir Mix-a-Lot.) P.S. One correction, at the 17:50 mark: Deland McCullough’s senior year of college was 1995, not 2005. • Read "Runs in the Family": https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Runs-in-the-Family/Sarah-Spain/9781668036280 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What is the story behind Dillon McCullough?

0.469 - 6.031 Pablo Torre

Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.

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6.851 - 19.495 Unknown

He opens the door. He just said, my son. And it was like, oh, the tears start rolling again. You know, because I've never been referred to as somebody's son. Right after this ad.

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21.456 - 24.537 Unknown

You're listening to DraftKings Network.

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36.926 - 55.856 Pablo Torre

You know, one of the things that I have to do at the top is say, first, thank you for doing this. Sarah Spain, hello. Yeah. And the other thing is to do a thing that is cruel, which is to say, there is a twist in this story, which we're not going to give away because we're trying to be good at telling stories. But holy f*** it.

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58.517 - 61.939 Sarah Spain

Yeah, that was my response when I first heard the story. It was pretty much holy f***.

62.921 - 75.311 Pablo Torre

And now that story is a book, which is why you are here with us today. It is coming out. It is called Runs in the Family. What's the metaphor that you choose to use to describe the process of birthing this?

76.032 - 91.825 Sarah Spain

Actually, I've been joking. I am throwing myself a book baby shower wherein I buy myself a push present. Because honestly, and though the labor maybe wasn't as painful as a human baby, but at the beginning I was like, to quote you earlier, holy shit, why did I choose to do this?

92.219 - 99.566 Pablo Torre

Yeah, I should say, I mean, to quote Tony Kornheiser about his own hands, these fingers don't really type anymore.

100.353 - 113.737 Sarah Spain

Well, I am worried about you after you did that interview where you said some of your articles, you actually changed the words in sentences so that the ends of them would line up in a paragraph so it looked nice. I was like, oh, he should never write a book.

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