The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Fowl Shots: We Investigated an NBA Conspiracy
Thu, 24 Apr 2025
The most brilliant promotion in sports seems simple: If a visiting NBA player misses two straight free throws in the fourth quarter, every fan in the arena gets free chicken. But the untold story of Brickin' for Chicken is a tale of psychology, philanthropy and unintended consequences — and nobody wants to admit the truth. So we teamed up with Oddball's Amin Elhassan to reveal hidden evidence, pointing to a new theory about this quid-pro-bird. And then we (literally) chased down The Robin Hood of Wings: no less than Giannis Antetokounmpo himself. • Subscribe to Oddball with Amin Elhassan and Izzy Gutierrez https://www.youtube.com/@OddballHoops • Subscribe to Thanalysis https://thanalysis.podbean.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the Brickin' for Chicken NBA promotion?
Kings fans, they show how loud we can get.
In the fourth quarter or in the second half of games, depending on which arena you're in, when the opposing team is at the free throw line, if they miss two free throws in a row, everybody in the building gets free chicken. Brickin' for chicken. But there was one moment on national TV that happened where the announcer let the viewers at home know, hey, this is why everyone is going crazy.
This is a playing game. The winner plays against the Knicks as the seventh seed. I remember this acutely. Right? The loser then has to go and play against Chicago, so you might not even make it to the playoffs. This was deep in the third quarter. The Sixers, I remember, had blown a lead. They were awful. They were awful. They were getting booed at home.
And booze raining down here in the first half from the frustrated Sixer fans.
And then, midway through the third quarter, the heater up 11, Caleb Martin, who is usually a dependable free throw shooter. This is one. And then... Yes!
And the crowd explodes. My, oh my, it's so easy to make people happy. Apparently the chicken is very good.
I felt that in Mike Breen's loins, by the way.
Yes! Yes! But the crazy thing here is they've done the charting of what the win probability was for the Heat at that moment in time. It was upwards of 80%. It was in the bag. And that moment is the moment where everything changed. And you see the win probability descend, descend, descend, descend, until all of a sudden you got a Sixers win. That promo, Pablo, saved them.
So the argument you are making here is that Brickin' for Chicken is changing meaningfully the course of basketball games in a way that has even exceeded the whole novelty, marketing, sponsorship kind of design of it.
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Chapter 2: Who created the chicken giveaway promotion and why?
And he's been tasked with coming up with a promotion that helps the local Chick-fil-A franchisees get more foot traffic in the door. And that franchisee was a man named John Natoli. What John Natoli said was, hey, what we found is for most people, if they try our chicken, they come back. But how do we get them to try it? So Lou says, I got it.
We'll run a promo where we give away chicken when some sort of event happens. Now, what kind of event could that be? Could it be when the Wizards make two free throws?
And then we said, wait a second, that could be negative. Our players could get booed if they go and make the first free throw and miss the second. They'll get booed for missing.
So we've got to do something where everyone is incentivized to keep rooting for this. Right.
No matter what. Where the business side, where the basketball of the Wizards lose side is protected. And also the Chick-fil-A side gets what they want.
Gets what they want.
I said, wait, let's concentrate on the visiting team doing something that'll generate excitement for Mars.
This is the brilliance of it. This is almost, in a way, recession-proof. Hey, what if we're down 50? They still can miss two free throws in the fourth quarter. So it is something that has— And repeatable. It's repeatable, yeah. So there's no point in time where you're like, well, that promotion's over, up until literally the final buzzer.
It's funny just to remember how, like, golf works. Mm-hmm. and golfers hate when the crowd is interfering with their rituals, how their sport has always operated. How did the NBA react to, yeah, a bold stunt like this?
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Chapter 3: How do NBA players react to the Brickin' for Chicken promotion?
That's what I'm talking about. Well, you guys got everything I asked for. You caused a big hubbub. Listen, all I know, we got to come up with a different rule. Two free throws, two missed free throws, it's too much.
Two misses, too much.
And the Chick-fil-A cow. Of course.
We'll come back to that a little later. So I do want to point out something about pro athletes, which is, yes, all of them can afford lots of Chick-fil-A. Yes. But there is something about watching a Polish-born NBA player with, like, a Zangief Mohawk just, like, enter into a room in America full of free chicken that feels like kind of the dream he was promised.
And then... like a real American, feel entitled enough to say, the threshold is too high. Two of them is free throws. What do we do? What is this, communist Russia? No, it needs to be a turnover, right? He's campaigning. He's insistently campaigning to lower the threshold to get more free chicken. More free chicken. And at one point, John Natoli even promises him, hey.
We'll have the cow bring it down the locker room. All right, we got it. We got it. We'll do that.
Any home game now. Any home game you guys get. Do we have a Chick-fil-A at the arena? Yes. Perfect. Can we have someone from the staff bring a little box?
We'll bring it down.
Just a little Chick-fil-A and maybe like, you know, 10 sandwiches on the floors with pepper jack cheese.
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Chapter 4: Are NBA players intentionally missing free throws for free chicken?
Last year, he shot 29% from the free throw line and couldn't think of a better person at the free throw line because if he misses this, all the fans are going to get some chicken. Oh, he did it on purpose. The fans are happy, but the Cavs get the basketball back. Did he do it on purpose? I wouldn't be surprised. He's the man of the people. The man of the people.
Look, that's someone asking the question that I was asking, but you don't have to take it from me or Drew Gooden or Chris Miller because Spencer Dinwiddie owned up to it. Take a look at this tweet exchange. So, fan tweets to Spencer, I hated watching you miss these fourth quarter free throws, but thank you for lunch tomorrow. And this is what Spencer says back. Missed the second one on purpose.
Wanted everybody to eat like the squad. Shrug emoji.
Okay. Now, in the case that I know you are trying to build, there is clearly also just some guys trying to spin their own failures into something positive that they can then, you know, make jokes about.
I thought you might say that, right?
I thought you might say that you thought that I might say that.
We could do this all day. But I have prepared evidence of a player not only claiming it, but claiming it in the moment. I present to you Exhibit C, Boban Marjanovic.
Fans are getting excited here. There might potentially be some free chicken on the board if he misses the second free throw. Oh, man, free chicken on the board? Yeah, so that's why the fans are getting a little, little fluffy.
I'd forgotten about that. Goosebumps. For people who forgot about this, dude, that's an eight-point game with four minutes and change left in the fourth quarter. And Boban...
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Chapter 5: What evidence is there of players admitting to missing free throws on purpose?
If you are one of the people who's listening and not watching the video, He is pointing at himself. I'm going to miss it. And he's looking at the crowd. He's like, I'm going to miss it. He tells his team.
It's such an insane video.
There's a buildup to it. It's not just like, it's not the Spencer Dinwiddie where he misses it. I meant to do that. He is calling his shot like Babe Ruth pointing to the outfield, right?
He's like the opposite of Babe Ruth.
Well, yeah.
All of these guys on a relative basis are themselves like sideshows. These are... Relatively speaking, Scrubs, Kobe Jodes, Kristen Thompson this season, Beaubon. These are circus acts in a circus promo just having fun off to the side, basically.
I thought you might say that. And this is the whole point of my investigation. Follow me, if you will. What if I told you that the guy that this story is really about isn't a sideshow or a scrub, as you very, very disrespectfully call those fine young men? I do want to apologize. What if I told you, actually, this guy is a former MVP? No, a former two-time MVP.
You might know him by his own nickname that wasn't given to him by his teammates after failure. No, it's given to him because this guy is a freak of nature. The one and only Giannis Antetokounmpo.
First of all, I'm supposed to be in Vegas right now. I'm supposed to be in Vegas right now, you know. Party. But I'm here at Orange Chick-fil-A. Can I have a 50-piece? Sorry, I will put you... Can I put you on camera? Do you mind or no? There's 150,000 people watching you right now.
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Chapter 6: Who is the 'Robin Hood of Wings' and what is his connection to the promo?
Is there anything you want to try but not yet?
I don't know. Can you guys recommend me something? Try the chicken feet. I love chicken feet. You love chicken feet? I love chicken feet.
I now am remembering how Giannis, you know, won All-Star MVP and decided to celebrate in the way that you are alluding to.
So what's it feel like to finally win this thing?
Winner, winner, chicken dinner. And yet, none of this has to do with the promo that we're talking about, Amit. So this is his love of chicken in general, but what about how he's interacted with the incentives that we're dissecting?
Okay, so here's a video of him at a Milwaukee Bucks game where there's a chicken giveaway while the opposing team is in a chicken scenario.
Speaking of wings. Oh, everybody gets wings. Free wings from Wingstop.
He's on the bench, obviously, it's the end of the game, and he pulls a phone out to scan the QR code for the free chicken giveaway that they're giving to the fans. He's so enthusiastic about chicken and about the promo, he wants in on it like everyone else in the arena.
It's such ridiculous video that I'm overlooking the fact that Giannis just had a cell phone on the bench, by the way.
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Chapter 7: How does Giannis Antetokounmpo show his love for chicken?
Chapter 8: What is the psychological impact of the chicken giveaway on NBA games?
It's insane, and yet it's undeniable what happened there. And so this is one of those moments, I think, where you got something... that you want from the marketing side, right? You got something that you want to galvanize the fans with. And then you got something that basketball ops, right? The coaches, the front office are like, hell yeah, this can help.
When you get all three of those things in the same place, that's business nirvana, right?
Business nirvana for the NBA. Also, I am told reliably, a business nightmare for Meadowlark Media, which has funded, truly, a new high when it comes to the we-paid-a-mean-what-to-investigate-what-the-fuck graph.
Pablo, like I told you earlier, you follow the chicken. There's no telling where you might end up. And where I ended up was in some weird places investigating one of the 75 best players of all time, right? And in the process, completely ruining my reputation in the NBA, which already wasn't stellar to begin with.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a risk that I was expecting to have. Didn't expect it to get this dangerous this quickly, though.
For the truth, it's all worth it.
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And I want to get into the minds of the players. I mean, you promised me entree into the psychology of NBA players who have all of this at stake. But in terms of how this works, this stunt originated, where does that begin?
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