The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: The Poddies (feat. David Samson and Pablo Torre)
Fri, 31 Jan 2025
As soon as our EP is done getting his elbows lotioned by our makeup artist, we'll kick off the show. Meadowlark Media is being showered with awards, but it's caused some infighting at the company. Andrew Hawkins criticizes Stugotz's win for "Best American Football Podcast," and David Samson and Pablo Torre join the show because David is furious about Pablo's victory over him. Then, Billy Gil is headed to Georgia for Billy Gil Day in Cartersville, but Andrew Hawkins is unimpressed once again. Does ChatGPT know Hawk has HIS own day or is it racially biased? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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There are so many ways in this company that things are upside down. For example, Andrew Hawkins just told me that he did something at the dollar store, and while he was telling me this, Chris Cody, child of nepotism, was getting his elbows lotioned by the makeup woman. And I'm like, this place doesn't work correctly. But that's not the greatest example I have of it.
I've heard all my life, and maybe, Andrew, you've lived this. I've lived this recently. More money, more problems. It's preach. But I've never heard of more awards, more problems. Our company is winning all sorts of awards. Like, we crushed these podcast awards, and everyone at the company is fighting over them.
Wow. What podcast awards?
Well, first of all, the biggest winner, I mean, these are the most prestigious of the podcast awards, is the answer to your question. Okay. The very most prestigious of the awards. Do they call them the potties? I don't know the name, but they're just known as the most prestigious awards. And Stugat beat everybody in the football category. What? And no one's happy for him. He beat everybody.
He beat Shannon Sharp. He beat Schefter. He beat every football name. He beat the Tomahawk podcast. Wow. Mina. Mina. Lenny. Diana Rossini.
Everybody.
How is this possible? Shannon Sharp. The Kelseys.
He beat everybody.
Demand a recount. Real quick question. So you say the podcast awards, but there's not a name. What is the name? I'm looking at all the... Let's go with the potties. The potties, yeah.
Okay. The name is Best American Football Podcast. Okay. That's the best. I don't know if there's a football podcast that's not American that's better than this one. I doubt it.
The American football pod, best American football podcast.
It's the sports podcast awards, but I believe they're called, kind of as a diminutive, the potties.
Like you would think when somebody like in our company wins an award like this, you'd see emails of congrats. No, it's like they stuffed the ballot. This is bullshit. I can't believe the emails and the Slack channels that I've been reading the last few days.
Stugatz, right? Let's be clear. This isn't like middle-aged people eating each other, right? It's we don't trust Stugatz. We think there's fraud.
Don't do we. Don't do we. I think this is deserving. I think it's creative. Wait, are you saying you – there you go. No. I said we don't trust Stugatz. I don't trust Stugatz. There you go. I do trust that he's got the best American football podcast.
Okay, I don't trust that. I don't trust the potties. Sports Podcast Awards. The spas. The potties. Is what we're calling it. The spas.
Again, you guys want to argue about the name instead of celebrating the accomplishment. I like spas. It's real hater behavior. I'll put it on the poll, Juju.
Do you like spas? Let me just ask you. Would you rather imagine or do you imagine Stugatz to be at a spa or on the potty?
You know what? Let's actually not. Put that poll out there with the whole Justin Tucker stuff going on. Yeah, smarter.
Look, I love Stu Gatz. Don't know if he has the best American football podcast. He does. I'm a big football guy. Don't know if you know that about me.
The way this is measured is he just got announced as having the best American football podcast, so therefore he has the best American football podcast.
From the spas.
You guys are making fun of this. It's from the most prestigious of the pod-giving organizations. The award-winning organizations.
The potty.
Who was on the committee?
Can we get a little research?
I need insight. All right, you guys got questions. I'd like to celebrate first with balloons, with an acceptance speech, with a call that will show the inner office turmoil. In fact, just start the show.
This is gross.
Yeah, just start the show. Don't play the call. Just start the show so I can get to the call. Where are we getting balloons from?
This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stukas Podcast.
Andrew, can you help me? Because Samson wants to come on and talk about the awards and the voting. Pablo wants to come on to talk about the awards and the voting. Billy and Stugatz don't need to come on, aren't even here today, aren't even here to accept their award. They're used to this. They've won it before.
Do I allow Pablo and Samson to soil what should be a happy day around here by just getting in the way of things?
Yes, you should. It should be soiled on. I think I'm excited. I'm excited for the awards. Congratulations to you guys. Can I start by saying that? Although I'm not starting, I kind of went in a different direction already, but I want to say congratulations. I do have questions about what the hell we're talking about.
This is not how award ceremonies work, though, where it's like, congratulations, but I have an assortment of questions.
That is exactly how the Golden Globes work. Or if you're Kanye West, that's how it works.
It's the antithesis of award ceremonies.
giving and receiving to just ask questions in i just want to know how happy i should be very why because he won the best american podcast you guys podcast i've been on this show so many times not a single time have i come on here and been introduced as a cambria county sports hall of famer that's true you've never associated hall of fame with my name that's correct You know why?
Because it matters who the hell is calling you a Hall of Famer. No, it doesn't. So I'm all for awards. Okay, if that's the case, I don't ever want to show up here without being described as a Hall of Famer.
I am more interested in the American and Best American Football Podcast. Is that Best American Football Podcast or is that Best American Football Podcast? Meaning, is there a Greek... Football podcast. That's way better than Stugatz's, but it's competing. Like Amina's. Is that?
You have to make that correction because the rest of the world doesn't care about our American football.
But Dan, you're making an assumption that the American here is signifying that it's American football, the sport, as opposed to American football podcast. It could be. It was a category with. There might be a Canadian football podcast.
They probably had Shea Shea and Black American. Best African American. Best African American, yeah. Okay. Now we're getting down to somewhere.
Now this is starting to come together. No, no, no. This is not Metal Ark celebrating Stugatz's achievement. And furthermore, I will tell you, we have a great deal of in-house tension. Pablo also won an award. David Sampson finished third. He's mad. He's mad. Which one? Third? Pablo. Okay, because... Stugatz deserved third. David Sampson finished third, and he's mad about it.
And we had to do some reporting. Journalism has fallen apart. But at Meadowlark, we're still doing the occasional journalism. We've got sort of a tape that we shouldn't have. We've got Mike. I need your help here. I don't know if Christopher Christopher Poe, our lawyer, has looked into this or not, because I don't think we're allowed to play this.
And we have to protect the producer because I don't think the producer knows that we were recording him. And so we're going to have to distort his voice on stuff we found out that Pablo has done in order to win awards.
I don't think that covers you legally, but go ahead.
Okay, I think that preface covers me legally. See if you can distort that real quick. We have found, we've got a whistleblower in the business who has sent us audio that he or she recorded of a producer of Pablo's.
Holy shit. I can't listen to that song again. Oh my God. Yeah, I mean, I want to go, but I can't. Pablo. No, I know, it's not just me. He's got four producers. Yeah, four. Four producers and then two editors just for Emmy submissions. And then the other, you know, 25 producers working on some story about, you know, funerals, God knows what, spreading ashes.
Mark Zuckerberg, who knows what the hell he wants to talk about. 75 producers on the show. Can we, like, you know in soccer, they, like, loan out players to other teams? Can we loan a producer to David Sampson? Poor guy has two people, maybe? I got an idea. Pablo Torre finds out whether he could be a parent. Go home. Stop trying to, like, win awards. Do this. It's just, it's ridiculous.
I've had enough. No, no, no. I'm telling you. There's an entire spreadsheet, shot by shot, for best host sizzle reel. And I'm like, my God. We're going to spend... in 45 minutes on just this one thing. When what we could be doing is maybe loaning a producer at David Sampson. David Sampson has two producers. It's ridiculous. I've got to get back. It's Pablo time.
Samson has one producer. He doesn't have two producers. And Pablo does indeed have four producers and two editors just for Emmy submissions. That is factual. I've seen the budgets.
I thought when that audio started playing, it was Shannon Sharps. That was Dan. I'm like, whoa.
I think we distorted it too much. I think we protected the identity of the producer a little too much. I seized on the cadence.
I can't see that. Refuse to believe Stu Gatz has a better football podcast than Mina.
Did you have a lot of situations, Andrew, where people in your locker room weren't happy for the successes of others? Yeah.
No, that's valid. You played in Cleveland. There wasn't much success for you guys.
Yeah. The other teams, we were jealous of the other teams' success. No, this is around the conversation of Cam Newton saying he wouldn't trade his MVP for a Super Bowl. And everyone was like, oh, my gosh, I can't believe you would say that. And I'm like, I kind of can. I mean, I think that that makes sense.
So Stugas getting his personal achievement over Meadowlark winning the best podcast company. You know what? We should celebrate it because personal achievement is OK. And I don't like the war that's going on against personal achievement.
Well, let's talk about what it is that Cam said, Amin, because we had this conversation the other day, and Amin said the reasons for motivations among athletes, the top one is winning. Nope. I'm sorry, the top one is money. Yes. And then the second one he was saying is winning, and I was saying that his third one, which is being the reason for winning, is closer to money than people understand.
And so when Cam is saying, I'd rather be MVP and have an enduring legacy of that one year, I was the best in the sport. Then my team was the best in the sport. I understand both how he comes by that appraisal and why fans would crush him as the selfish, the selfish black athlete for having that appraisal.
The original version of this question is, would you rather be Charles Barkley or Robert Ory? That was the genesis of this whole question in sports debate. Would you rather be Charles Barkley, MVP of the league, top 75 all time? Hall of Famer, or would you rather be Robert Ory with seven rings? And Robert Ory shut the book on that one by saying, I'd rather be Charles Barkley than Robert Ory.
What are you kidding? Like, to legitimately say almost every night I stepped on the floor, I was the best player in the gym, in the world, in the building. That is a feeling that very few get to feel versus, yes, Robert Ory won championships. Yes, he was a contributor, not just like kind of riding the pine. It's like...
It wasn't because of me not like Barkley, you know It's the greatest American spin is what this is and I'm not against team sports I'm not against team success like that is the goal the goal is to do both to be the best in the world and also Let the fact that you are so good at what you do create a champion in your entire team but nobody in America
is going to work their whole life at something, a passion, and be like, I'd rather do it for my company. That's the thing that people miss, is that athletes really, I mean, yes, we all want to win the championship, because again, it's another signal that we're the best at something. But when you distill it down, it's you working for your company.
And you're not gonna trade your company's success for your own legacy. You know why you hardly ever hear about MVP trophies being sold on eBay? That's such a good point. Do you know why? Think about that. Why you've never heard, oh, this MVP is hard on money, and they're selling their MVP trophy.
I mean, Cam has been a little transparent recently about his financial issues, but I guess my best guess would be because MVPs typically make a lot more money.
Bingo. Right? Because it's a lot harder for an MVP to run out of money than it is somebody who was a part of a 70-person roster with a ring. Again, this is not an indictment on championships for organizations and teams. That's what this is all about. But for the athletes as well, like, yeah, it makes... I don't like the fact that it's a bad thing to... to feel like you're the best in the world.
Like Josh Allen is another good example. If he does win an MVP, it's like, oh, you shouldn't be happy about that. What the hell are you talking about? You dream about this stuff since you're four years old. Yes. Yes, you should be trying to win a Super Bowl, Josh. But if you win an MVP, feel good about it.
i want to bring up a couple of things here i thought about some of that for about 10 years when ricky williams's heisman was in my father's garage and i would go in there and he eventually sold that heisman but your point overall is well taken on the the best player in the world once you get that trophy you don't often see that you don't often see that sold but i wanted to ask you if you were interested particularly in the differences between how it is lamar jackson
was criticized after a Mark Andrews drop versus the soft cushion of, I feel so bad for him that Josh Allen fell on when Kincaid dropped the ball. Like, was that something that you noticed how the differences there were obvious?
Yes, I'm sure I noticed it. I don't know if I really dialed in. It's what I expected. The Mark Andrews catch was probably 10x easier than the Dalton Kincaid catch. And I don't even like the fact that people act like that was an easy catch for Dalton Kincaid. It wasn't. It was an incredible play by Josh to give him a play. And it was a... a harder degree of difficulty than the Lamar throw.
And it's like people will nitpick about anything, but regardless, maybe I don't feel a way about it because with Lamar, I know how hard Lamar is on himself. Like Lamar has... been so consistent in his approach to the game, and I've spent time around him, and it is not fake at all. He genuinely only gives a damn about a Super Bowl. And that's what makes him an anomaly.
He has never talked about being an MVP, being the best in the league. I'm sure that stuff is in the back of his mind, but even in his personal conversations that I've been around and a witness to, all he cares about is winning a Super Bowl. And that's because I think he grew up here in South Florida, And that's also all the youth football players here care about.
Like when I play with kids from South Florida in the NFL, they don't talk about college. They talk about when they were playing against Pompano or Tamarack. And it's like a point of pride. I never understood it until I got here. So for Lamar, truly, the Super Bowl does represent something else. And he's going to be that hard critic on himself, too.
Pablo and David Sampson are here. Just before we get to that, not only did Robert Ory say what Amin said he said, Charles Barkley also came on with us and said, I'd rather have my career than Robert Ory's. But Robert Ory saying it after winning that many championships, it did end the debate on this show.
I take Charles' career. When you come into this league, you always want to win a championship, but you also want to be considered one of the best of all time. He's always going to be considered one of the best of all time. Even though he never won a championship, he got there but didn't win one. He's an all-star. He's a Hall of Famer. You know, he's a great sportscaster.
So, you know, I would have to take, you know, Charles Curry. Even though I won a championship, I still take Charles Curry because you can't take anything away from him because he didn't win championships.
You know the concept of the Ouroboros, the snake that eats its own tail? That was me quoting Robert Ory, which I did not realize happened on this show.
That's correct. So here is David Sampson. He was shaking his head throughout that sound. He is here to tell us that second place is the first loser, third place is the second loser. I was telling him how proud I was that he has America's third best baseball podcast. He did not want to hear about how he should be proud today of having America's third best baseball podcast. David Welcome.
Thank you very much. Thank you, Dan. That's very nice of you to say that you are proud. We did have the number one best baseball podcast last year and the number one best business podcast last year. All nothing personal.
And then somehow we got metal art this year and Pablo took over the sports business category and was recognized as having the best sports business podcast, except that's the one I'm on. called The Sporting Class and Nothing Personal Now is the third best baseball podcast, I'm here to tell you that that makes me a loser. There's nothing to be proud of.
And I'm thrilled to death with everything I've won. But yesterday I was not a winner.
Pablo, is this your way of saying thanks for winning two first place awards at the Sports Podcast Awards? Is this why I'm being called in? Hi. Hi. I don't know why anyone's mad at me, frankly. So what's going on?
it's you've got a lot of producers and they uh they they spend their days uh making emmy nominations filling out forms so this is actually a helpful moment i guess to clarify um the award i won um first of all samson's i guess mad that the jpeg on the award for sporty class was my show logo um sorry that the jpeg is not david sampson's face i guess um i will apologize for that i'm not
I apologize for the producers on my show. The award that I won was best sports documentary podcast. I don't know if you guys know what a documentary is, but it's not you call someone after they call, you know, to expect congratulations after dropping off their daughter at school to yell at them. It's an award that you get for having high degree of difficulty episodes you produce every week.
So, cool, cool, cool party I just walked into.
David, please tell me what your objection is to Metal Ark. Go ahead.
I just don't understand what Pablo is trying to do when I'm aware of the resources that are given to Pablo to help him win. The fact is that he's got groups of people who do nothing but make sure that he's nominated and wins awards. And that's fine, Pablo. And you can look at the structure of what you do and you can have your Pablo Torrey finds out. But how many times do you ask that?
I am helpful to do the sporting class, everyone. And that wins. But then it's your thumbnail that does it. And then you're the one who's tagged. So you didn't win just one gold medal. You won two gold medals.
I did. I did. A big part of this, I think, is that David Sampson, who is very good on the sporting class, an episode that I host, not coincidentally, is he has no idea how the Internet works. So David was mad at me yesterday for like tagging John Skipper, but the wrong John Skipper on Instagram.
He sent me a screenshot of John's Twitter account to point out that I clearly tagged the wrong one, not knowing that Twitter and Instagram or X and Instagram are two separate platforms. So when David says you have all these producers, I think he literally means sometimes you have someone else who understands what the internet is. And in this case, that person was me. Don't tell me what I mean.
Don't tell me what I mean, Pablo. What I mean is actually you've got myriad people working because Metal Art gives you all these people to do all this stuff. And it's me and Coca. That's it. Oh, by the way, we do it every day. And it takes you weeks to do one show. Oh, but it's very in depth because you find out rap.
So I'm walking the streets of New York and I can maybe find some like actual metaphorical comparison points. Like right here is a very fancy restaurant. It's like best in class, like incredible elevated French food. And over there somewhere is like a hot dog stand. And I feel like the hot dog stand is yelling at the French restaurant for having too many employees.
That's great. That's great, Pablo. Wait a second. You're calling what we do a hot dog stand.
I love hot dogs. It's just not best documentary at the Sports Podcast Awards. That's fine.
Pablo, love a hot dog. Dan, we're good here. We're good here, Dan, because you now know, at least now we know what we're dealing with, is that Pablo, and he's so highfalutin, he is so condescending toward nothing personal and toward what we do, and it just manifested itself with a description and a comparison of that should make you as nauseous as that hot dog.
Look at all these wins I've had, Pablo. You don't see me out there with all medals and rings every single day. Those are credentials, by the way. You got some credentials.
This is sad.
No, by the way, Sloan Sports Analytics credential.
Where are we in life where David Sampson has become the everyman who's railing against the elite? What are you wearing?
How many rings do you have there? You won one World Series, yet you're wearing three of the same World Series championship ring.
Please give those players their rings. Which corpse did you raid to get those rings? He's the one buying the rings off of eBay.
You're trying to alter history. You only won one title. It's three of the same kind of ring.
Hold on, Mikey. This is the all-star game ring, which is really cool. Wait, you got a ring for hosting an all-star game?
um all-stars get a ring every year if you're an all-star you get a ring and this is a ring that was for being a 2017 all-star and i did get one because we hosted it um this is the marlins world series ring but i have several can i get a cup of coffee and uh do you have like the third place baseball podcast
It's just just a black coffee. I'm sorry. You're actually a hardworking person. Yeah. Yeah.
Do you mind if I just say hello to my friends here? OK, there it is. Hello, sir.
This is the second place baseball. Come on.
He's great. David, what are your problems with Metal Ark? Are they just related to giving Pablo more support than you?
No, I think that we have a weird. Thank you, sir. Pablo, can you mute yourself when you're engaging with the general riffraff, please?
He just congratulated me. So I just wanted to tell him, you know, thank you.
Yeah, we caught all that.
You were saying, Sam?
I want to make sure. Pablo trying to be popular by befriending his coffee man in the cart on the street who has no idea who he is.
Honestly, guys, I'm walking around here like Belle in Beauty of the Beast. People are popping out of their windows to say hello. A guy with a baguette just rolled by. All right. incredible.
Let's let Pablo go and let's make no mention of the fact that he stole the sporting class from me. I was doing that with Samson and Skipper beforehand. Congratulations to Pablo and how do you do this? Push maybe. You just broke it.
Work it out, Dan.
I just broke it. I was congratulating. Our confetti poppers don't really work particularly well.
There it is. Thank you. Yes, there it is. That feels like another metaphor.
Congratulations to Pablo for his big win in the whatever categories they were.
Is it a pull or a push? What is it?
There's tape on it.
Congrats to Sam. And congratulations.
That's amazing. David, thank you for being on with us. And congratulations. You should be happy about third place. Third place is good.
Third place is for losers.
It's incorrect.
Thank you. Hard to disagree with that.
All right. Goodbye. See you later. Love you guys. Go Meadowlark. Woo-hoo. We did it.
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We've got you. We've all got each other. Let's go right now. Stugatz. One, two, three, Brett. One, two, three, Brett.
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We got, the letters that we got here in balloons came incomplete. We didn't get all of the letters. That's why everything around here is misspelled. We got a bad batch of balloons.
Dan, I just want to point to Chris Cody, who's trying to get the popper to work, and he's using some methods that, oh, there it is. He was using some methods. I was like, careful, we're on camera. If we were macing camera on, we would have been like, that's crazy. Hey, yo, Chris, what are you doing?
I actually appreciate that in that instance when I was feeling really vulnerable, trying to pull, push, not knowing how a confetti cannon works, thinking it was my fault. And then I looked around the room and all of you were struggling with the confetti cannons.
I don't even know if those are confetti cannons. I think they're just containers of confetti. Mine just opened up and spilled out slowly. Yes, that's...
This company, what I learned, has just a tone issue. Okay? They're not nice to each other. Tone, mean. I'm fining the entire company with the Venmo fine bucket. It's brought to you by Venmo. Everybody owes $5 at the entire company for this tone with these awards. Oh, I don't like it. We should be celebrating each other. $5 Venmo tone fine for everyone at the show.
I'm owed $30 for winning who that is every week. Everyone.
Okay, here's the thing, though. No one's respecting this bucket, and you, I'm proud of you for being a leader, trying to make people, trying to enforce the rules, but you just made an edict and no one reached for their phones. Hold on. I will again be the only one paying this fine.
I'm owed, look, take it out of my $30 that is owed to me for guessing Cooper DeGene right. You guys are doing this all wrong.
I'm so fed up with this. I take offense to you saying no one respects the Venmo fine bucket. I highly respect it. We got a QR code. We scan it. We enter it in. It takes two seconds to put the money in. I've been contributing. I thought everybody else was. This is news to me.
It's just Greg Cody that's not.
Everyone else is paying. Amin, do you think that Hawkins is paying? Because I don't believe that Hawkins has paid a fine yet. I don't think I've ever been fined. I don't think he's been fined. Well, you just got fined $5. What did I get? You were the one asking. When we're celebrating awards, you're like, I have questions. You did real dismissively. Hey, real happy for you. Congratulations.
But, however, let me bring an assortment of questions to you.
Now there's a war on clarity. That's the thing, right? You can't even have real context of what the hell you're celebrating. These are the most prestigious awards. It's all you need to know. Okay, well, I don't say congratulations unless I'm impressed, and I need to have context to be impressed. I do not think he has a better football podcast than Mina Kimes.
So let's all continue to do mental gymnastics to figure out how this happened. That's all I'm asking.
I got Hawkins getting up on that stage as Stugatz is accepting the award to say, hold on, hold on. I just want to say, Mina Kimes is one of the greatest podcasts of all time. Shrugging. Yes. Wandering off the stage with a bottle. Shout out to Lenny.
Again, Mina Kimes, not one of the greatest football podcasts of all time. Third best.
That's for that. Come on, man. It's Nightcap. Yes. I mean, you could be. It's Nightcap. Hold on. Is that Shannon Sharpe and Chad? Oh, Jeff.
You could be bummed that Anatomy of a Fault didn't win Best Picture, but that doesn't make it Best Picture.
Fair enough. I stand corrected or I sit corrected. It is one of the best, but it's not the best. The best is Stugatz. The best is Billy. Billy couldn't receive the award. Are you guys aware what Billy's doing? Because I love that anarchist Billy is doing this quietly because he's the only one in the company who would do this quietly.
He is going, has gone, to Cartersville, Georgia to celebrate the incorrect anniversary date of Billy Gilday. It's supposed to be the five-year anniversary, but it's not actually, but he made the plans, and they're doing it. So Billy Gilday is in Cartersville, Georgia today. He's flying with his family for the weekend to celebrate Billy Gilday. No one else at this company would do it quietly.
He can't pick up his award for producing the best American football podcast ever.
Because he's celebrating his own day. What is the population in this town?
I want more information on Cartersville, please. I'd like to know more as he continues to question the accolades of others.
I'd like to see if I should be impressed. Thank you.
He got a day. Look, you just made it so that your Hall of Fame was not impressive. And I would say all the Hall of Fames. You get into a Hall of Fame, you've done something. You've never said that to me. I'm telling you right now. I prompted you to give me that. Well, because I didn't know you were in any Hall of Fames. You played for the Browns.
You should assume. I'm seeing the population in Cartersville is 24,937. Okay.
You want to diminish that?
I'm just saying. Just get the look at me Louie button ready. What do you mean look at me Louie button?
He didn't say press it. He said get it warmed up.
It's nice and hot now. There's an Andrew Hawkins day. That's all I'm saying. There it is. Now you can hit it. Where? Hit it, please.
Johnstown, Pennsylvania.
Located in Cambria County.
Is it bigger than Cartersville? Is that bigger than Cartersville?
It's not. I think we're at roughly a 17,000 population.
So admittedly, a less impressive day than Billy Gills. And you didn't do it quietly. You felt the need to tell us right there.
I'm just letting you know that's where my bar is.
Okay, so he's done better than your bar, but he did it quietly. I admire the way that he did that. There's no way any of you would have done that that quietly. He's gone with his whole family for the weekend.
I have sources up there. There's no way you could guess who it was. He says, my source tells me that there's a town hall ceremony planned this afternoon and then afterwards bowling with Billy. Hmm.
Hawk, I'm sorry. I asked ChatGPT, when is Andrew Hawkins Day? And they said that there is no official Andrew Hawkins Day. I was like, please clarify. Was he honored with his own day? This is the answer. As of now, there is no official day recognized by any governmental or official body as Andrew Hawkins Day.
The designation of October 20th as Andrew Hawkins Day is a personal initiative by Andrew Hawkins himself celebrated informally on social media. Holy shit.
I have a declaration from Mayor Tregonia for October 20th, 2011 for Andrew Hawkins Day. My family celebrates that every year.
Apparently, according to advanced computers, it is a personal initiative celebrated by you yourself informally on social media.
This is shocking to have happen on live television. This is so embarrassing for him.
an official government seal on it. The internet's not backing you up, pal.
This is the part of the movie where we realize the character that they wanted us to believe was the fraud, Stugatz. It's not him, actually. The call is coming from inside the building. Wow. You've got to provide proof before the end of the show.
The black guy is the fraud. I should have seen this coming. I should have seen it coming a mile away. Are you saying that is AI racially biased?
Is that what you're saying? Yes.
I pressed it.
I think everybody knows that AI is racially biased. At first it was like, no. But then it had the very cutting remark of a personal initiative by Andrew Hawkins himself.
What in the hell is that AI? First off, if it was a personal achievement... Why would they make the decision not to even acknowledge it? And then when you, like, are you sure? All right, so there's this thing he makes up on social media, but I'm not even going to act like it's a real thing.
I can't make what I'm about to say up because I can't believe that this is happening on live television. Mike, what was the name of the coach before Nick Saban? who lost his job over a resume error on his way to Alabama, and there were stories not confirmed that during moments that were private, he would yell, roll tide, in intimate situations.
I was never able to prove that, but I'm forgetting the name of the coach. It wasn't O'Leary, was it?
No, George O'Leary did lie on his resume, but there was another coach. In Alabama, Mike Price? Yes.
So he lied on his resume, and his career fell apart, and we just saw something that is going to demand proof from Andrew Hawkins, or his career is going to be in trouble, that he's been talking about Andrew Hawkins' day to everyone who will listen, and computers are accusing him of making the whole thing up.
Well, this is how we make AI stronger, because AI has been wrong before, and I've had to correct it. AI is racist, man.
And I'm not talking Allen Iverson. No, D-E-I is racist. This is ridiculous.
Now I'm scrambling through my files to try to— You're going to have to prove this in the next couple of hours because this has the potential to be explosive and career damaging. I know. Because it's already happened. It's going to get aggregated now. It's going to be a whole thing where Andrew Hawkins is a liar and a promising and wonderful media career.
Look, I found an article, and I'm going to— Look at this. Finally.
Oh, we've got documentation. Well, where's the seal? I don't see a seal. It's right there, bottom left. That's not a seal. Can we zoom in on the seal, please? That is not a real seal. That's just a printout, man.
No, we got to zoom in on the embossed seal. There it is. From Mayor Thomas Tregonia. In Johnstown, on behalf of our city council and all of our citizens, extend to Andrew this expression of our esteem and our very best wishes and thanks to him and his family. Andrew Hawkins Day. Mayor of that city.
Are we willing to take that as proof? Does Andrew Hawkins get to do a victory?
Are we willing to take a government proclamation with a city? This doesn't feel a little racially biased.
Judges? All right. All right, that is not a real seal. This is a real seal. This is clearly a real seal right here.
That is not a real seal. The only racially seal that you're going to accept here. Wow. Big news. ChatGPT has capitulated. All right. I sent it the article and it apologized.
Look at that. The apology is never as loud as the accusation.
I surmise that he did indeed have his own official day, and it's not celebrated by himself.
You're going to get to take a victory lap right now. We're going to go into the other room. We're going to give Andrew Hawkins the stage. We're going to give him the platform to say whatever he wants. He has been discriminated against by computers and by me. He was indeed questioned, but now we have an official proclamation from a mayor of some sort.
And I again will ask the group, are any of you surprised that Billy Gill is doing this this weekend? He doesn't want to leave his home to interact with people. He advocated for house arrest the other day as a better way of living. And he has gotten up, taken his family quietly to celebrate himself on a day.
And I think it's because he needs to be away from us where things are not celebrated together. Wait, oh, it's our fault? I think he wants to be in a place where people will celebrate who he is and his achievements. Metal Ark is not that place.
For the record, there was no hesitation from ChatGPT when I asked about Billy Gilday. It knew it right away.
Can you give me more information on both Billy Gilday and Cartersville? I'd like to know about this city that he was in. I wanted to send people with him, but he wanted to do it more quietly. He wanted to do it more humbly, and so I wanted the content of it. He did not want to share the content. I'm sure it'll be his private brand management.
Was it he wanted to do it quietly and humbly, or he just didn't want any of us around?
Some information for you. The mayor of Cartersville used to be a co-host of the Lauer After Hours podcast.
I don't believe that that is right, what you're doing there. You're undermining Billy Gil's day as the one who said... You said facts.
You want facts about this.
I said I wanted facts about Cartersville, not facts that undermine this particular event. It's not undermining it.
It's just a fact. It's a historic city with a rich and cultural natural heritage. It's got the Savoy Automobile Museum there. The first outdoor painted Coca-Cola wall advertisement was in Cartersville, Georgia.
There's got to be something about slavery in there. Plantations or something.
It's the home of Sam P. Jones. We actually have good news regarding racism. The attorney general under Ulysses S. Grant, Amos Ackerman, was from Cartersville and spearheaded the federal prosecution of members of the Ku Klux Klan. So, from Cartersville, getting rid of KKK members. That's really exciting.
And Atlanta, you get your drinking water from Cartersville. So, there's that.
So, congratulations to Billy Gill. This is Billy Gill Day. This is officially, throughout the land, Billy Gill Day. He's got America's Best Football Podcast. Took out Shannon Sharp. Took out everybody. Took out everybody. Peter Kimes. Everybody. Everybody who's talking about football. No one's doing it better than Stu Gatz and Bill. Billy, and whatever Gronkowski is on their show.
And now we go out to Andrew Hawkins, and here it is. Here is his victory lap. Congratulations, Andrew. I'm sorry I called you a bit of a phony.
It's okay. I forgive you. Shout out to Peloton as I'm taking my victory lap. through God's country, also known as Johnstown, Pennsylvania, population of roughly 19,000. As I sit here over top as Johnstown, Pennsylvania's favorite son, the home of also Jack Hamm, who does not have his own day.
I actually don't know, but I'm sure if you check chat TPT, Mike, they would say he has seven days because he is not black and they won't discredit it without the proclamation and official seal. Shout out to Billy Gill, OK, for your day, because now that I see the way this company approaches people who have through their esteemed accomplishments,
had their own holiday in their honor, I now understand that I was mistaken for trying to find out the population of your city. It is an incredible honor. Congrats to you and your family. And congrats on your big spa, your spa award, your potty award. Congrats on using the potty, Billy. I'm very proud of you. Shout out to Peloton.
And most importantly, and I'll end with this, shout out to me, right? Everybody. Look at me, Louie, baby.
All right, but you're not really running. You were fake running. No, I'm running. You're not running.
I'm a very smooth runner. I won't lie, Hawk. I'm watching you, and I'm waiting to hear the voice, cha-cha, real smooth.
Turn it out. You're not doing that correctly.
Turn again. This is how I run. To the left. Victory lap is brought to you by Peloton. Find your push. Find your power with Peloton.
You were bored mind-dancing.
There is no official Jack Ham day.
Why does no one understand that the whole payoff on this bit is you're winded while you're talking? Like, why does no one understand that? I've been running for four minutes. What took you so long to come to me?
Well, now, cha-cha, real smooth now. Hey, howdy, listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
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