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God bless football, Billy Gill. God bless football, Mikey A.
God bless football, Stugatz.
Thank you, Mikey. One game left. The biggest of games. Super Bowl 59. Billy, we are headed to New Orleans next week.
We are. I thought you were talking about the Pro Bowl games this weekend. We're not going to preview any of those. Can I ask you a question? And this is something we should very much know as a football podcast. One of the biggest in America. Nominated for the Sports Podcast Awards every year for Best Football Podcast. Stiff competition this year.
Anywho, here's my question because we should know this. How the hell do the Pro Bowl games work? Is there an actual game this week or no? Because they've changed it so many times in a different city, sometimes here, sometimes there. I have no idea if they're playing a football game this weekend. They are. Everybody's gathered together.
I know there used to be a drone drop and the likes of that, and I think they got rid of that, but there's best catch. I probably should have looked this up before we just started talking about it, but there's a big one this weekend, I think. I don't think it's a game.
I think it's a series of skills competitions. I think that there's a flag football component, isn't it?
It culminates in a flag football game.
Yeah, but that's not football.
It's not?
No, but there's a tug of war. There's a quarterback contest that has a trivia component to it.
Trivia? Wait, what? Trivia?
Hold on a second.
We've gone too far.
Yeah. Yes. The quarterback has 30 seconds to throw at targets, but gets 10 seconds added if one of his teammates, now actual teammates, so like CJ Stroud and Nico Collins are doing it. I know that for the AFC.
This sounds like field day.
So if Nico Collins gets something right in the trivia, he gets 10 more seconds.
This is – hold on a second. Hold on a second. This is very much – Thursday night at the local pub? I mean, what are we doing? No, Fuentes told me, and he's exactly right, this sounds like field day at school is what this is.
Exactly.
Like they have to pay a little bit extra, then they wear matching shirts, they don't have to wear a uniform. Like what's going on here? This is ridiculous.
In my field day, it was red versus blue, and purple always won.
Why are we doing – I don't like that at all. Purple always won. Red versus blue. There was no winners. What was even the point of it? I mean, I guess you could argue what's the point of the Pro Bowl? Well, yes. J.J.
Watt got all upset saying, hey, when you're a fifth alternate, we have jumped the shark on the Pro Bowl.
And I'm like, fifth alternate for trivia? Russell Wilson is going. Russell Wilson is playing.
No, he's not.
Come on, guys.
Playing what?
That's who J.J.
was railing against. Hold on a second.
Josh Allen is not going to the Pro Bowl, and by the time they got down to the alternate, I believe Russell Wilson is going.
I saw somewhere, I think that it was Pat McAfee was saying it, that if you are a Pro Bowl alternate, so you are selected now because everybody's backed out or whatever, and you make it to the Pro Bowl as an alternate, you don't get contractual Pro Bowl bonuses. You need to be on the first batch of Pro Bowl selections to earn Pro Bowl money.
If not, and you have in your contract making a Pro Bowl as a bonus, if you're added as an alternate after 600 people have said no, you don't get that in your contract, which seems crazy to me. It does. It seems like a terrible job by the agent. Well, I mean, I guess also, like, by the end, every single person in the NFL has made the Pro Bowl because so many people back out every year.
But that was pre-trivia. I have some sad news for you guys. Sad news? Yes, sad news as we're covering the Pro Bowl.
Something sadder than the football season ending?
Well, yeah, so... Turns out last night, Thursday night, was a skills showdown for the Pro Bowl, so we missed that. But good news is Sunday, Pro Bowl Games Championship. So 3-6, you can watch that on ESPN Network, Family of Networks, ESPN, ABC, Disney XD, all of those. They're going to have all of that stuff.
Let's be honest, before they installed trivia into the proceedings, it never really was a football game. They were never playing a football game Pro Bowl weekend, though. It was two-hand touch.
No. There was players. There was players that were out there laying hits. Sean Taylor was knocking punters out. It was not two-hand touch. Sean Taylor made sure to play every Pro Bowl that he could.
But it's been a long time since Sean Taylor's been with us. God rest his soul. May he rest in peace. But since then, give me someone else. You name one name.
Can I say what I think the downfall of the Pro Bowl was and Hey, Super Bowl's coming up. We'll get to that a little bit later. Can I say what I think the downfall of the Pro Bowl was? And I don't know why this happened. And I think that it also leads to why so many people back out. Maybe not. When we moved the Pro Bowl out of Hawaii, it just felt different. You know what I mean?
Every year it was Hawaii. It was like, you know what? I'm going to go. I'm going to bring all my family and hangers on, and I'm going to spend my entire annual salary in getting all of my friends and family to go see me participate in the Pro Bowl.
Hawaii was incentive enough for these guys to want to go.
Well, then they started making it cute, and it's like, let's go to Orlando. Let's go to Las Vegas. Let's go to— Let's go to Disney. Exactly, wherever. And it's like, guys— No one wants to, respectfully, respectfully, to the great city of Orlando. No one wants to go to Orlando for the Pro Bowl. You're going to go to Central Florida before the option was Hawaii, like Honolulu or Kissimmee, Florida.
Like, come on. What do we think is going to happen here?
You have to build up to Orlando. You don't build down to Orlando.
Once Hawaii is there, you can't scale back to Orlando. You know what I mean?
Once you've reached Hawaii, there's no turning back.
There's no turning back. And that's really, if you ask me, one uneducated person on the circumstances here, that's what killed the Pro Bowl.
How many jobs did the NFL save in their budget by downgrading from Hawaii to Orlando? Like you don't have to buy round trip airfare or nothing for any of that stuff. Now, guess what guys, everybody's going to keep their job, but you're not going to Hawaii. You're going to Orlando.
You know what? I wonder if the players union played a role in this because so many players were like, guys, we got to get out of Hawaii. Like I cannot say no to my mother-in-law and my cousins and everyone else. And like, One selection to the Pro Bowl is costing me $400,000 by the time my entire family makes it there. And I just, I cannot afford to go to the Pro Bowl anymore. I'm throwing games.
I'm not playing well. I don't want to be selected. Because if I'm selected, I can't tell them, no, we're not going to Hawaii. I can't not accept it. I have to accept it. I can get an Airbnb in Orlando, one of those houses with eight bedrooms. It has the Disney princess theme, the arcade and a garage, the pool table, all of that stuff. There's a Harry Potter room with bunk beds for all the kids.
I can pull that if we get that. We can move to Orlando. I can fit 15 people in one house for a week. That's fine. Or I can very much again, I can convince them we don't need to go to Celebration, Florida for a week. You know what I mean? Like we can go somewhere else. Let's go to Atlantis in the Bahamas. Still cheaper than going to Hawaii with 600 people. That's too nice, Billy.
You know what I mean?
That's too nice. Too many people are going to want to go. I think you're right on Orlando. I think they got together and they said, let's pick a city where no one wants to go.
Well, not that no one wants to go, but let's pick a city where we can very easily convince people, maybe we take this year off. Maybe it's not the biggest deal in the world.
We're not going to go to Orlando, but we're also not going to Hawaii, and you take your family somewhere in between.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You can skip it, and then you just go on a family vacation, but then it's also like, Well, you know, we don't take our cousins on a family vacation. We don't take our aunts and uncles on a family vacation. That's not necessary. We don't need to do all of that, right? So then that's how you also – I'm pretty sure the Players Union was involved.
I don't know this, but I'm pretty sure Players Union was involved.
I love that the foundation of your argument is that a bunch of NFL pro bowlers are afraid to tell their mother-in-laws no.
Of course, everyone is. Everyone is afraid to. You be the guy.
I don't disagree with you.
Come on.
I don't disagree with you.
But I love that that's the foundation of your argument. Mikey, it's the ramifications of telling your mother-in-law no. Exactly right.
Oh, I get it. I get it. I totally understand. Like, I picture, like, scary dude from the Hawaii, James Harrison being like, No, I can't tell my mom.
Exactly right. I'll pay $400,000 and not have this conversation. I'll pay $400,000.
Because it's going to take – Yes, she does need to sit first class.
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But when you tell your family Orlando, it's not that big of a deal.
Yeah, yeah. And then also you could say like, hey, like – He could go to Orlando for the week and go to Disney. It's going to be busy, though, and we don't want to go at busy time. Why don't we just go to, like, let's go to Mexico together. You know what I mean? And then that's how you go somewhere. Let's go to Costa Rica. You go somewhere else. Like, let's go to the Maldives.
You go somewhere else just as, like, your family, like five people, and then everyone's like, well, you know what? They opted not to go to the Pro Bowl. Like, I get it. It was a long year. James is probably beat up. James doesn't want to go and play ring toss or whatever it is that's going on this year. By the way, Stugatz, Mike Ye, also – presented by Smirnoff. We do game days.
Please drink responsibly. The Smirnoff Company, New York, New York. This has been described by many people who are attending as the walking Super Bowl because of the proximity that everything is. I'm excited about that. I was too until this morning. What happened? When I fell off of a curb taking my daughter to school and sprained my ankle terribly.
And you can't see it, but I'm sitting here with it all wrapped up in ice on it.
Can you put it on the table?
Well, I can just show you what I'm working with right now, which is just this situation is going on right now.
Guys, I'm the third alternate for you if you need someone else to fill in.
Well, you're not getting your Super Bowl bonus. I hate to tell you the way contracts work.
What do you mean you fell off a curb? What happened?
As you get older, you don't actually get injuries from doing real things. You just misstep off a curb. You step in a hole, whatever. And this one, I felt it. I felt, I don't want to say a tear or a pop, but I felt... Something went, this isn't like, you know, oops.
Something touched the ground that doesn't touch.
No, I felt a clear when it happened. And I, so I went, I dropped my daughter off at school. I went, I dropped the other daughter off at school. I got home and I was like, I'm wrapping this thing as hard as I can. I got to keep moving. As soon as I stopped moving, this is done. So then I went, I didn't have an ankle brace. So I went, I got a green ace bandage wrapped around as hard as you could.
I then stopped by, got an ice pack, just slid that in there, drove into work. As soon as I parked and I was walking across the street, oh, boy, I felt it. And I know as the day goes on, I'm going to feel it because I still haven't taken, like, an anti-inflammatory or anything. So this sucker is swelling, and this ice pack is hot now. It's going to be a fun week next week. So what are you thinking?
Are you thinking, like, stress fracture? Are you thinking Achilles? Is it a grade 2 ankle sprain? Like, what are you thinking here?
Questionable for New Orleans?
No. New Orleans is happening. He plays with Paige. Listen, this probably ends with me in urgent care just to get, like, the meds that I need. But, like, I'm going come hell or high water. And maybe I'll be wearing Crocs all week because shoes won't fit. But we're doing this thing. Right.
Well, maybe there's a spot for Mikey. Mikey has to carry you now from station to station. Wow.
No, I'd rather stay home. I'd rather stay home. Thank you. I'm good. If this was a regular season game, Billy might be questionable, but Super Bowl, you play through it.
Real ones play through it, yeah. I'm going to play through it this episode, too. You want to get to Golik here?
You know what, Billy? I call this week getting back to basics.
Oh, BTB.
Yeah, it's the week before we go down or go up, in our case, to New Orleans. It's a great city for a Super Bowl, I've been told. I've never... I've never covered one there, but I'll be interested to get Golik's thoughts because you know Golik loves food. That means he loves New Orleans because New Orleans is known for its food.
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Then you go back to your hotel. Are you going to go to the game? No. Back to your room, watch the game, get the f*** out on Monday morning.
I'll be watching the game with room service in my hotel room. Mike and I will have to do the show Monday in New Orleans, and then we'll fly home.
No one with access to the game will be closer to the game without actually going to the game, meaning you're so close and you're not going to go to the game, but you can get into the game. Yeah, I will not.
No, no, no, no. I will be in my hotel room either with my son Mike or alone with room service. And enjoying the commercials, enjoying the game, enjoying laying down and watching the game.
After a long week of pitching products.
Yeah, pitching products, going to different events, doing the show every day, all week. As you well know, it's a long week. Again, I'm not complaining. I get to go cover the Super Bowl, but yeah, it's a long week.
Mikey, could you sleep so close to the Super Bowl with access to the Super Bowl and not go to the Super Bowl?
I could. My only problem with what he said was the room service. Like, Mike, New Orleans is a food town. Let's not just do room service.
I will be there seven days previous to the Super Bowl. I will get my fill of New Orleans food. I will get my fill. Every single day, multiple times a day of New Orleans food. By the time Sunday rolls around, I'll be like the person at the end of a 10-day cruise who has gained 20 pounds and is trying to get back to some normalcy.
Right. Yeah. We've all been there. That's why he's great. I mean, he makes things very relatable. We've all been at the end of a 10-day cruise, and we feel like hell.
Oh, my God. Yeah.
the worst. Where does New Orleans rank for you in terms of food cities?
It has to be up there, right? As far as food city and as far as hosting a big event, it's right at number one. Because again, when the media or we all descend on an event, it's not about the event. You know this, Stu. It's about how does it affect us? How does it affect our week? Do we have to get in a car? Can we walk? How convenient is where we have to go? And New Orleans is all walkable.
You don't have to get, I mean, I'm, I'm staying in a hotel that's connected to the convention center. So every day I just walk down a hallway, radio row, do the show. And I'm about a 15, 20 minute walk to the quarter to go get all the food that I want to the events that I'm going to go to. It is so convenient. That's why it's a top the list and the food is out of this world.
All right, so it's my first time covering a Super Bowl in New Orleans. What you're telling us is it's not Las Vegas. Oh, it is.
Now listen, Vegas you could walk. Vegas I was fine with because I walked to a lot, especially you could walk to the game, which is fantastic. That's one of the great things. And, you know, there's a lot to do in Vegas, obviously. It's different in New Orleans. The food is second to none. You can find so many variations of food.
And with the French Quarter, you can go to an established place like Brennan's, which everybody's going to try and go to. Or for me, man, I like little holes in the wall, little dive places where you can just sit and have a beer or two. and have some nice gumbo or something, you know, and call it a day. You know, I'm past the point of staying out late.
I used to do that when I first went to Super Bowls. I'd go out and meet guys I played with or against and go to the different parties and wake up and do the show. Man, I'm so past that. I'll go out for an early dinner unless I have an event I have to go to, and I'll be in bed.
I love it. Mike, I'm sick of dancing around this thing. Let's just go right to it. I need a Mount Rushmore of food cities in America for you, and I want you to take out the event part of it. Doesn't matter.
Right. Just the places Mike Golick likes to go to eat, okay? I imagine Philadelphia might be up there, I've got to be honest.
Philly's up there. New Orleans is certainly up there. The Carolinas with the barbecue is up there as well.
New York, Vegas.
Anywhere in the Midwest with a good steak, right? I'm a big steak and potatoes guy. Good steak. I have to be somewhere where there's like water to get like seafood. I'm not going to be in the Midwest and, you know, order, you know, fish, even though I'm sure there are places that fly it in and it's really good.
So I'm more by region of food, barbecue food, steak and potatoes and seafood type of a deal.
So Kansas City might be up there for you.
Kansas City is definitely up there. When I played, it's the best smelling stadium there is. And when I played there, when we used to leave and go to our buses, there used to be people that would give us barbecue. which was phenomenal. I mean, you got to get on the bus with barbecue. So that's an awesome stadium, yeah.
What's the worst-smelling stadium, Mike?
What's that?
The worst-smelling stadium, yeah. Philadelphia.
I don't know about smelling, but the worst to get into and out of is a buffalo. It's tough to get in and out of, and obviously the weather can be awful as well. So that's probably a place that I'm not all that hyped up to go, even though it's a great team to go watch play. It's just, it's tough to get in and out of.
Mike, where are you on Chiefs fatigue? Are you one of those guys? It's like, hey, I'm tired of watching this great team continue to win over and over and over again. Or are you a guy who appreciates the greatness when you see the greatness?
No, I appreciate the greatness because in this day and age of football where a team can turn over so quickly. They've kept their core together, and they've filled in spots every year, and they continue to win. So I'm one of those that appreciates greatness.
I get it when people say they want something different than Michael Jordan winning a title, than Tiger Woods winning a tournament, than Golden State winning an NBA championship. I get people getting fatigued and, A, wanting their team there instead of that person or that team that's winning it. But I certainly appreciate the greatness. And...
I don't think, and he gets talked about a lot, but I don't think Andy Reid gets talked about enough. We talk about Mahomes. He's a Hall of Famer already. Travis Kelsey, a Hall of Famer. What the Chiefs are doing. But Andy Reid, not Bill Belichick. Andy Reid is going to end up the all-time winning of playoff games. He's only a couple away from Belichick. He's going to blow by him in that.
And I think he's at 301 and Shula's at 347. That's four years of 12-win years. which I think he can do. So I think it's Andy Reid that's going to hold all the victory records as far as head coaches are concerned. I don't know if he'll equal Belichick in Super Bowls, but I think he'll pass him in postseason wins and pass Don Shula in wins.
Andy Reid is going to go down, already should go down as one of the great coaches of all time.
You know, it's interesting because Mikey A and I were talking right before you came on with us. We were saying if Nick Sirianni wins this game, he might be considered the greatest Eagles coach in Eagles history. Do you agree?
Wow, that's a, I mean, listen, you have to go by results, right? And I mean, that would be a pretty good stamp on his resume. I don't know if anybody will ever consider him that, but he can hold up the sheet that said, look what I've done. I mean, he'll have that on his side.
But if he loses, he's fired, right? Yeah.
I mean, is it unreal? I mean, how many games into the season this year we were talking about his longevity being an Eagles coach? And even the last game when Jalen Hurts says, you know, Nick finally took the straight jacket off me, and Nick says, oh, he was just joking around. No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't joking around. Nope. I mean, this is a team.
But listen, Jalen not happy with the passing game. Listen to what Pat Mahomes said after they won the Super Bowl back-to-back. He said he wasn't satisfied with the way the offense played, right? That the defense was playing better and he wanted that offense to get back to the powerful offense. I get it from a quarterback standpoint. You want to be a high-flying offense.
But this is an Eagle offense that's built around the offensive line in Saquon Barkley.
Yeah, it is. It's a great offensive line. Mike, it's such a fascinating game from this standpoint. I think you would take... You would take the Eagles offensive line, defensive line, linebackers, probably secondary. You would take everything Philadelphia except the coach and the quarterback.
Yeah, yeah. And listen, like I picked Buffalo against Kansas City, I'm going to pick Philadelphia. against Kansas City. I think Philly is overall the better team, save for, like you said, the coach, which the play calls that Andy Reid pulls out, the roll right to get a first down on the last drive, and then that third and seventh
where he had motioned trips to the left so Pat Mahomes could tell it was man coverage. Then all three receivers ran crossing routes, and Samaje Pirine ran out to the left, and the man covering him just got caught up in a six-person wash. And Pirine was wide open to catch the ball and run for the first down. That's just incredible by Andy. But I just, man, I like the Eagles.
What a great game it was the last time, except for as a former defensive player, seeing a 38-35 game was a little rough, even though it was fun to cover, that's for sure. But I like the Eagles in this one.
Right, Mike, but this is your dream Super Bowl. You have Spags versus Fangs.
I mean, wow. I mean, it really is something else. I mean, but Spagnuolo's already a D coordinator with the most Super Bowl rings. He can add a fifth. He can add a fifth as a D coordinator. And I forgot which defender. Was it Chris Jones? On Kansas City, you said as long as nobody makes him a head coach, that means we still keep winning. Yes. It's truly amazing.
We'll get to Spags because Billy and I have a thought here on what Spags should do after the Super Bowl. But I heard Billy, I can't see him, but I heard a sound come out of Billy's mouth when Mike picked the Eagles over the Chiefs. Billy, what is happening with you?
It's just one of the, Mike. They keep doing this to us. We keep picking people against the Chiefs and they keep making us look stupid every single time. I don't know how you're so confident in doing so. Oh, I'm not confident.
You know how it is. I'm not confident at all.
Is this one of those things where just Eagle great Mike Golick has to go out there and say the thing to remain prominent in the Eagles community? Yeah.
It has nothing to do with that. His friend is Andy Reid.
Well, you know. Some friend. We haven't spoken to him all year. Some friend, Andy Reid. Where's he been this year? Geez. I think the guy's busy. Too busy winning. Exactly right.
Andy Reid will be joining Mike Golick and I and you, Billy Gill and Mikey A. He'll be joining us at some point here.
Don't worry about it. We'll see.
Mike, it's funny. People talk every year, should Andy Reid retire? Should Travis Kelsey retire? Why on God's green earth would you leave this quarterback?
It's amazing how people tell other, when Jerry Rice wasn't going to be with the 49ers, don't go to another team, retire. Tim Brown, not with the Raiders, don't go to another team, retire. How the hell do you tell people to retire if they still want to A, coach, or B, play, if they still have the want to to do the work in the offseason? Because that's why players retire.
They don't want to do what's necessary from February to August to prepare for the season. They just don't want to do it, and they know they have to be prepared. But if you're willing to put in the work, why the hell wouldn't it? Look at Pete Carroll. He's 74. Andy Reid's 66. Andy Reid has more than a few years left in coaching, as long as he wants to. Same with Travis Kelsey.
I mean, to me, it's ridiculous to try and force somebody to retire if they still have the want to to do it.
But Mike, the larger point is you don't leave this kind of guy when you have this kind of guy. He's just going to keep putting rings on your fingers.
I mean, it's just a run that you stay on. Again, the core stays together. You fill in the ancillary spots behind that, and you just keep winning. You ride this for as long as you can, absolutely.
Mike, did you feel bad for Josh Allen last week?
I don't feel bad for professional athletes in the sense, you know, oh, wow. He is like those that got caught up in the Tiger Woods era, those that got caught up in the Michael Jordan era. It happens, right? You can be great, but if you get caught up in the wrong era – There's not a lot that you can do because Josh Allen has played well.
He didn't turn the ball over this year like he has in the past. You literally have to keep the ball out of Pat Mahomes' hand on the last drive. whether it's A, to score points, or B, get a first down to run the clock out. Because you know Andy Reid is going to go for it. Andy Reid isn't going to run the ball three times and punt. Andy Reid is going to try and keep possession of the ball
Because that's the way Andy Reid works. And you have a quarterback in Pat Mahomes that can get it done. So, no, I don't feel bad. I mean, I don't. You just got caught in the wrong air. Not to say that it can't happen next year for Josh. But, man, it's got to be mentally tough. physically guys are all prepared to play.
But mentally, you just have to wonder when you get into the playoffs against Kansas City, it's like, okay, what happens this year? How do we lose this year? What goes on this year? It's just got to be brutal.
How do you feel about Sean McDermott? Do you think that he's keeping Josh Allen from the Super Bowl?
No, I mean, again, I don't think so. I don't think so. This is like, I remember Marty Schottenheimer took the Browns to a couple of AFC championship games and got fired.
I mean, you're fired after the Chargers AFC championship game as well. 13-3, yes.
It's like you were going to fire Ryan Day. And again, if there wasn't a 12-team playoff, Ryan Day probably would have got fired because he lost four times in a row to Michigan.
Yes.
But he ends up winning a national championship. It just seems ludicrous to think that you would fire Ryan Day over one game. Right. Just like, you know, Sean McDermott is successful. Who are you going to hire that you say, yeah, that person is going to get us over the hump?
I'm glad you asked. Spags. Now, Billy will back me up on this because Spags, not only is he a great defensive coordinator, he brings all the Kansas City Chiefs secrets with him. Mm-hmm.
Listen, Spags is going to get a chance to be a head coach again. I would really believe, but again, You don't know how somebody who's been a lifer coordinator is going to be as a head coach, right? You just don't know.
Right. Well, then we do know, and it wasn't very good. But that's not to say he wouldn't be good his second time around. This is just about secrets.
Exactly. I mean, you had a stint, obviously, as a head coach. I get it with what the Rams from 2009 to 2011, I think it was. So you have a bit of history there. But I do think it would be stunning, I guess I would say, if he doesn't get a shot again. If, in fact, he wants a shot again and he's, what, 65 years old. So who knows? I don't know what's on his mind.
Mike, I'm sorry, because I'm trying to get this worked out with Billy here because I can't see Billy. And Mikey, it's annoying me that I can't see Billy because Billy is a bit of a safety blanket and security blanket for me. And I can't see him. And I know he has questions for Golik.
That's fine. I guess one of my questions, Mike, and I don't want to I don't want to rub salt in your wounds here because we're now, you know, a couple of weeks removed from this situation. But you told us a great run by Notre Dame, obviously historic run. What a season.
You told us a couple weeks back that you would not be coming down to see them at Hard Rock Stadium because of the bad memories that you had from when Notre Dame lost the national championship to Alabama down here in Miami. Are we now adding stadiums to the list where you can't visit anymore because Notre Dame choked in those games in the national championship?
No.
Okay.
No, no. In Miami, it was a blowout. It wasn't even a game. This was a game. I mean, Notre Dame started out great. Then, obviously, Ohio State went on an incredible run. And then Notre Dame made it a one-score game in the fourth quarter, made it somewhat exciting. So, no, that was only because it was just an absolute destruction in Miami. So, no, I'd still go to Mercedes-Benz in Atlanta for sure.
Yeah, because they're running out of major stadiums here, you know. Yeah.
It was going so well.
I know it was. It was going so well. Better when you couldn't see me. Why did I ask for him?
The issue with me and Notre Dame is all the players they're losing. A couple of wide receivers in the portal, three offensive linemen, their defensive coordinator, Al Golden, going to the Bengals. Now, they did sign Chris Ashe, who has been a D coordinator for more than a few big-time teams. But their GM... Obviously, every team has a GM now went from Notre Dame to USC, so they need a new GM.
So that's what happens when you're successful. You get poached, and Notre Dame certainly got poached.
Mike, do you think Jason Kelsey is enjoying this?
Oh, yeah. I mean, his former team isn't. He really can't lose. If his former team wins, he's happy. But I think he's more happy if his brother wins.
No, but Mike, I mean, from this standpoint, he's been retired for one year. Yeah. And you would think the offensive line would suffer without one of the all time great centers, but they have actually gotten better. And Saquon Barkley has had a year for the ages. And I'm wondering if Jason Kelsey says to himself, hey, I should have waited one more year before.
I don't know if his body would have held up. I mean, that's the one he can always lean on. I don't know if my body would have would have held up because, yeah, Cam Juergens comes in as an is a Pro Bowl center. I mean, it's almost like they didn't miss a beat. They got obviously younger at the position.
Yeah, I could see that being one year removed, thinking about I could have been on another team, but he's got a ring too, I think. So if he never got a ring, I think it would bug to me even more.
No question. So you were headed down the path of who should Jason Kelsey be rooting for in this game, and I would tell you pick a side, like enough. Pick a side, and it should be the Eagles. It should be your brother.
Well, I think my point is he's happy either way. If the Eagles win, it's his former team winning. If the Chiefs win, it's his brother winning. To your point, yes, I do think he should be, and he can root for who he wants. He's his own man. But I would be rooting for my brother at this point. Blood is thicker than the team I played for.
Right, like imagine Junior decided to go to Alabama instead of Notre Dame, and they played in that national championship game. You would have been rooting for Alabama, right?
Yes. Oh, I always said if Mike or Jake went to a different school, I would cheer for that school proudly. I mean, if it was where they wanted to go and where they wanted to be, I would be happy. It's my kids over my school for sure.
Even if it was USC? Yeah.
That'd be an issue. Yeah. Thanks for bringing that up.
That's where he draws the lines. That's where blood is no longer thicker than water.
That's where they're out of the will.
Mike, as a former defensive player, we'll get you out of here in a second. We look forward to seeing you next week in New Orleans pitching product already.
Yeah, what are we pitching, Mike? Let's start working out some of these pitches. What do we have in the works here? Just give us an example.
Well, there's diabetes involved again.
No one has benefited more from diabetes than you.
But it's actually to help with diabetes.
Right, right. And help you. But, I mean, if they found a cure, the checks would dry up, if we're going to be perfectly honest.
Stop. Stop.
It was going so well, Mike. You're right. I can't wait to see you next week, Mike.
Yeah, I look forward to it, Billy.
Yeah, no, he doesn't, Billy. Mike, what I was going to ask you was, can you tell us as a former defensive player, just because I don't think we really know what we're watching every Sunday because we just pay attention to the quarterbacks and not interior play, what makes Steve Spagnuolo so great at his job?
Well, I mean, it's the timing. Like the last blitz that he had on Josh Allen.
Yes.
Right? I mean, he was kind of saving that. And it's something you can do on the defensive side. You can save stuff. Not as much on the offensive side. But the defensive side, you can save stuff. And he gave Josh Allen a zone look. Right? Gave him a safety, a deep zone look. Right. And he kind of had it a little bit overloaded to Josh's left. So Josh slid left. He had the line slide left.
And sure enough, the cornerback blitzes from Josh's right. And he and Karloftis come free and force, you know, the Hail Mary, which, by the way, I mean, should have been caught. Right. Should have been caught. But...
regardless he he and and that's what you see today in blitzes you either overload with more guys rushing than offensive linemen and and running backs to block or you try and confuse to where you're not bringing more rushers than the offense has to block but you fooled them into calling the wrong protection and you have free rushers and that's exactly what spagnuolo did
He confused them, called the protection to slide left, and what you have to have is players who can disguise because you'll see before a play a quarterback give a hard count or in college they'll clap their hands thinking that's going to go to try and have the defense give up what they're going to do, right? Have a guy step out of position. Oh, he's coming. He's backing off.
So try and give them a read. Give credit to the players on Kansas City for disguising, for not giving it up, for that cornerback not showing that he was going to blitz until the ball was snapped. So it's a combination of trying to fool the offense and then having your disguised guys not give away what they're going to do.
All right, Mike. We appreciate the time as always. We'll see you next week in New Orleans. What a game it's going to be. Andy Reid either becomes the greatest coach of all time or Nick Sirianni becomes the greatest coach in Eagles history. I mean.
You know, it's a storyline either way, right?
It is. I look forward to eating with you, Mike.
Oh, definitely. We'll gain weight together all.
All right. You going to punch Billy when you see him or what are you going to do?
No, I'm going to give Billy a hug.
Oh, that's so nice. All right. We'll let Chris Sims punch him. Yeah. Ha ha ha.
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Stugatz Mikey. We're getting close to the portion of this show where we would normally do picks, but we are not going to pick the Pro Bowl games on Sunday this week because we would be insane to do so. I don't know why we would do that.
I think there's one person who would be upset if we don't. Well, there is definitely... But we don't really care about upsetting that person.
No, there's one person that wouldn't like it, and we need to figure out a strategy for next week in terms of picking the Super Bowl because essentially... If you have been listening to us all season long on the podcast for my video, we haven't really included it in the DraftKings network that much, I don't think. But it's been on YouTube.
But if you've been following along our guest picking segment, that's locked up. That has not been determined. Or it basically has been determined. And there's only one game left. So people aren't within one game of each other. So we already essentially know our champion. Unless...
We get creative, which is why I think maybe next week what we should do is I think that we should have everybody pick the games but have Kay Funk come in because he's so far behind everyone else and just have him pick his own prop bets to give himself a chance to get back in this situation. What do you guys think?
You're saying these prop bets are exclusive to Kay Funk? He's the only one who has a chance to pick them?
I think we extend him the courtesy of also letting him pick whichever ones he wants. And that is honestly just for time's sake, because if we go there and we go back and forth, he's going to complain about how the line's going to move and this and that, and he's going to take 10 minutes to pick an over-under on receptions for the third wide receiver for one of the teams.
So it's like, just come in and tell us what your props are, and then we can move on, and then see you. We'll see you in September. What do you think?
Is that how you do it when you're done with that? Just see you. We'll see you.
No, just with him, just with him. And unfortunately, unfortunately, I know with him, it's not going to be September when we hear from him.
I'll hear from him next week.
It will very much be Sunday. It'll be next week. He's going to pitch a segment where he does March madness. Like I already know the way he has training camp. Yeah. I know the way this man's mind works.
I mean, there'll be some sort of pickleball podcast with Justin Verlander. What?
We actually had that meeting with him like three years ago. Dude, we had a meeting with him about a Pickleball podcast like three years ago before Pickleball like blew up. And we're like, okay, K-Funk, whatever you say. Right? And looking back, maybe there was something there. But also, you know, that comes with K-Funk being the host of that podcast. So there was nothing there.
It came with conditions. Yeah, exactly. Exactly right. It came with conditions. Anyway, sad time. Sad time.
Do you like betting prop bets, Billy? Do you like for the Super Bowl? Are you a prop better?
Are you not aware of what Billy's Big Board Bets has been the entire season? It's been prop bets. That's all I live off of prop bets.
Get out of here. No one loves football more than you. I'm sorry. It's the truth. I was just wondering, like... Three prop bets in a game is one thing.
Yeah.
Having like a dozen or so prop bets on a Super Bowl game is something I'm not really down with.
It makes you feel alive. You know what I mean? How do you guys feel about the squares? The squares is what everyone's getting in on this year. And we have like a company square game going on. And then we have people within the company saying, I'm boycotting football. And they're not participating in the square game.
But how do you guys feel about the square game where you just go and you buy like two or three squares and then They do randomly the numbers, and then maybe you win, maybe you don't.
Here's my problem with the square game. Everybody that asks me to do it, the squares are like $2,000 each. And I'm like, I don't... They're like, yeah, my buddy's putting together one at a bar, and you want to go have these on a square for $2,000. Who are you friends with? Who are you friends with? I rolled deep.
Everyone that asked me.
I was like, I'll give you $5, and that'll get me in on a square.
I'd go to my aunt's house, and she bought the square game at Party City. And you just go, and you write your name in a square. You don't even pay. And then at the end, you get one of those brown paper bags with a ribbon from Party City that says, first place, or whatever, and some candy, like Tootsie Rolls. $2,000 a square. Yeah. What kind of double life are you living right now?
Wait, wait, Billy, are you not familiar with some of these square bets? Like for the Super Bowl, they're higher than $2,000. Not with Mikey. That's a low one.
That's like around the block.
I'm asking how this happens. Do you have a situation where if the square game doesn't work out, someone takes out your kneecaps? Who are these people that you are hanging out with, friends? Because I'm concerned. And also kind of glad you're not coming to New Orleans now because I don't want to see these people. They're coming after you.
Well, I get asked to do them. I've never once participated in one of them. They just all assume that I would be in because I do like to throw a few shekels on a game. I mean, a dozen prop bets in a Super Bowl, that's my gravy right there. A dozen $10 bets a time.
A dozen $5 bets is like $70.
That's manageable.
Who am I doing this show with?
Who are these people?
yeah i'm in one four i'll get i'll get like four eight do you guys right four eight for ten thousand dollars two thousand dollars exactly do you guys work today eight's not bad though it's not terrible it's not bad actually right do you guys it's the five you know what last year five two do you guys remember last year we had a game we were all gonna go in on together
and put money. I don't remember what the game was, but like Carl was going to go in and share bear was going to go in and Kate and everyone, we were all going to make like a group bet together.
And it was like Michigan. It was Michigan, Iowa. It was the under half a point for Iowa.
Yeah, exactly. I remember.
And then it hit, but somebody didn't actually place the bet.
Well, also no one paid. So we were fine. It wasn't a thing where like I sent someone money, no one placed the bed. And then all of a sudden, whoops, I forgot. Like, No one placed the bet, but also... Once it hit, I was asking.
I paid.
Yeah, but we were also committing a lot of money to this, and I was like, I think it was like $1,000 each. I'm like, I am not giving you $1,000. I'll cover it. Yeah, I'll cover everyone. I got everyone.
Well, I'll tell you, speaking of me covering stuff, if you want to get into one of these Super Bowl boxes, I will pay the $2,000. Me and you, 50-50. How about that? Let's do it. Done.
Really?
Yeah, why wouldn't he take that deal? We split it 50-50.
Why wouldn't I take that deal? You put all the money up. No risk. I'm doing it for Mikey.
This is for Mikey. I'm doing it for Mikey. I'm going to buy one for myself and one for me and Mikey. You want in, Billy?
No. I mean, you're doing one for yourself and one for Mikey. Why wouldn't you want in? Because I'm not involved in that. You're doing one for yourself and one for Mikey. I'm not in that.
I'd buy a third box for me and you.
No. I'll let you guys have this one because I don't want to – I don't want to run into a situation where the people that Mikey, you know, is in these circles with, the ones that go after the kneecaps, come.
You know, you pay the $2,000 beforehand. So, like, there's no kneecaps coming. I would have to break kneecaps if I don't get the money afterwards.
Here's the thing. Here's the thing about that.
is that i think that there's this might be one of those situations where stugatz's name brings a certain gravitas to the uh the scenario right where they don't know that he's not going to pay so they come in and they're like yo he's good for it he's stugatz espn blah blah all this stuff metal art media he's gonna he's good for it we'll just you know and so i was like yeah buddy i'll give it to you next week and then when nothing comes in then it's like well bill billy we're
for 50-50, or Billy says he was going to cover this one, and then they're coming after my kneecap.
They're not going to give me a box unless I pay up front.
Can I bring you guys in now? And a book. Now that the football season's coming to an end, can I bring you guys in on a situation that is quite the controversy, and Fuentes is going to be irate with this situation? But there was some...
scumbaggery done by mike fuentes in our company fantasy football league where we did a company fantasy football league and at no point was there discussion of a buy-in it's just do you want to be part of the company fantasy football league and i was asked like the day before and i was like yeah absolutely sure i'll do it whatever right you know camaraderie let's you know do things as a as a group team player exactly right
Then the fantasy championship happens. Mike Fuentes wins, and he goes, everybody owes me $10. That was the buy-in for the league. And we're like, what buy-in was this? I'm fine with giving you the $10, but this was never discussed before you won. There was a draft. No one ever at any point.
At least 50% of the league is like, this was never mentioned until you won, and now you're just asking everyone for $10. I got to tell you, that's a heady play by Fuentes. He's waving his hand saying, no, that's not the case. And I was perfectly fine.
I hope it's the case.
I was perfectly fine to send him the money on Venmo until multiple people came up to me. They're like, did you know that we were supposed to send Mike Fuentes $10? And I was like... No, I was going to. I assumed everybody knew. They're like, no, I think he just made this up. Like, none of us are familiar with this scenario. And a lot of the people sent him money because they didn't ask around.
But like, now it's more of a principal thing. And I forgot until right now when we mentioned it. So I'm probably sending it to him after this because I don't want to be like the guy that doesn't send it to him. But I'm pretty positive that he just decided that he won and everyone needed to send him $10. No one's paying attention. It's a heady play.
I think that's exactly what he thinks happened here is that no one was paying attention and everyone was like, was there a buy-in? Was there not a buy-in? And he waited until he won the championship.
Fuentes doesn't think this happened. You think this happened.
No, no. I've been approached by – this is a 16-team league. So, like, he's looking at, like, $160 that he's going to just con out of people because no one discussed this until... And all of a sudden, it's winner-take-all, too. Exactly right. It is all of a sudden winner-takes-all. He's the only one collecting any money in this league.
And he said this out... 50% stake in Fletch's team. How about that?
There was no mention of, guys, remember your dues are due before championship game. Then the guy wins the championship, and then it's like, everybody owes me $10. And it's like, hold on a second. Hold on a second. I thought I was out of the loop because I was a late addition. I'm happy to do it. I think you guys should have told me before this, but that's fine.
I'm happy to do this and pay the $10 because I want to be a team player. And then a lot of people were asking where this do situation came from.
A little good on Fuentes' part is making it $10, because if he made it $50, everyone would have been like, no, I would have never agreed to that.
$10?
Perfect. Oh, okay, here's your $10.
Yeah, Mikey's right. Billy, I have a little secret for you. He'll take five. I mean, just send him five. He'll take it.
Well, I seriously went on Venmo. I was like, what is his name? I was about to hit send, and then I got two texts, and I'm like, is this real or are they just making this up now? And I'm like, hold on a second. Let me not, let me remove my thumb from the screen and not hit send just yet until I investigate this situation further. Right. He made up.
You got me thinking. Yeah. You got me thinking about like gambling scams. I'm not certain. Like Mikey, I think you send that guy $2,000 and there is no box.
I mean, that's, I'm, I'm, well, I gotta, I gotta go sign my name in the, in the box.
Okay. Yeah.
I actually go sign my name in the box.
Yeah. Cause I think what, I think what the, what the guy, you have to go there.
Yeah.
I think what happens there, right, is that you go and then, like, this person just sends everyone out. Like, he waits until after, like, one of the quarters, and then he just sends everyone different numbers. So no one actually has the winning thing, right? Like, he takes a picture of all the names. And there's no numbers filled out. And then he will send it so that no one wins the first quarter.
Right. And then if anyone happens to win any of the other numbers, the other quarters, then he'll like figure it out. But I think he just waits until after the game. And you think like, oh, look, like John actually won the first quarter. And John is like, oh, well, you know, Larry won the first quarter. And Larry's like, well, Mike won the first quarter.
Like Paul won the first quarter because they all have a different Super Bowl. Exactly right. Exactly right.
Billy, now what you do is you make up a whole bunch of names except for like two people who you get to give you $2,000. And you walk away with $4,000. Hey, Jim S. won.
There is no Jim S. I'm Jim. That is great. Fuentes, are you writing that down? Fuentes, did you get that? For next year. Oh, he just gave me the middle finger. Oh, boy.
He called you number one?
He said, Billy, you're number one. Who did? Fuentes. Fuentes.
Billy, how do you feel about doing this to Kay Funk?
Some sort of super bowl box scheme, getting him to buy in. And then like we can we can have him pick it. We can send him a real thing, but it's all just other made up people. And then on the off chance he wins, he just wins his own money back.
He wins his own money back.
Yeah. But chances are he's not going to win.
From 1 in 100, you're taking all that money from K-Funk, and I'm all for it.
I want to put Mojo's name in K-Funk's boxes.
I do like we have him fill it out, and we send him a copy of it, and it has all of the numbers, and he thinks he has these boxes, and we're like, oh, guys, sorry, we updated it. And then we send it, and Mojo has all of his boxes instead of him. You know what I mean? Or whatever wins, Mojo's in those boxes instead of K-Funk.
You send him the picture of the boxes, and there's two K-Funk boxes, and the rest say Mojo.
I like that. Here's the other thing, by the way. When we say stuff like this, people assume that we're intentionally out to get him, and that's why he had a bad season, and he fully believes that. We have done very little to actually get him throughout the season. Almost nothing to get him. I mean, don't get me wrong. He's done this all on his own. He's bad at picking games.
We have done nothing to screw this guy over the entire year, but he's so convinced that we are. He's just terrible at picking. And even when he picks a winner, he changes it five minutes later into a loser. That lashes out at us.
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